Telsa is just like Apple produ

2022-03-22

Telsa is just like Apple products. Luxury goods. But people still buy because of its branding and unique functionality. Just like why people choose iphone over samsung or huaweior oppo. All are phones thou.

Tesla’s Affordability Problem

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EmilyMark
2022-03-22
EmilyMark
"Tesla is not a car company, it's a technology company". How many times have you heard that in the past few years? But Tesla comes up with no new technology, they just build cars.
- littlesweetieReplyCrystalRose:
  Tesla can open 30 factories more, still valuation wise is just too much. See you down under.
- MyrnaNorth:
  50% lower within a year. Wait until ford, toyota, et al start to develop market shares, and people realize how poorly made teslas really are.
- CrystalRose:
  The problem of Tesla investors is that they think that tesla is the only electric vehicle company out there.... Reality will hit them hard soon
MR_Wu
2022-03-22
MR_Wu
The Model 3 is priced at $40,000, which is not as expensive as a BMW.
CyrilDavy
2022-03-22
CyrilDavy
Problem shorts. When it comes to comparing Tesla to traditional car companies, they always compare apples to oranges.
AfraSimon
2022-03-22
AfraSimon
There are other EV companies but none are in the same level as Tesla. You stick with their so called competition and I will be with Tesla!
BellaFaraday
2022-03-22
BellaFaraday
You're right, Tesla's brand image will give the company an increasing edge.
ElvisMarner
2022-03-22
ElvisMarner
Are Tesla's products really as high-end as Apple's?

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Wait until ford, toyota, et al start to develop market shares, and people realize how poorly made teslas really are.","text":"50% lower within a year. Wait until ford, toyota, et al start to develop market shares, and people realize how poorly made teslas really are.","html":"50% lower within a year. Wait until ford, toyota, et al start to develop market shares, and people realize how poorly made teslas really are."},{"id":100910958,"commentId":"100910958","gmtCreate":1647914269871,"gmtModify":1663245501738,"authorId":9000000000000644,"author":{"id":9000000000000644,"idStr":"9000000000000644","authorId":9000000000000644,"name":"CrystalRose","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/25ded438897391c2e32edc77a343fe21","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9034289711,"objectIdStr":"9034289711","type":1,"supId":100910949,"supIdStr":"100910949","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"The problem of Tesla investors is that they think that tesla is the only electric vehicle company out there.... Reality will hit them hard soon","text":"The problem of Tesla investors is that they think that tesla is the only electric vehicle company out there.... Reality will hit them hard soon","html":"The problem of Tesla investors is that they think that tesla is the only electric vehicle company out there.... Reality will hit them hard soon"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":100908760,"commentId":"100908760","gmtCreate":1647907225102,"gmtModify":1663245490442,"authorId":9000000000000466,"author":{"id":9000000000000466,"idStr":"9000000000000466","authorId":9000000000000466,"name":"MR_Wu","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67592890bebcf079461acc4e4e6ba6f6","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9034289711,"objectIdStr":"9034289711","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"The Model 3 is priced at $40,000, which is not as expensive as a BMW.","text":"The Model 3 is priced at $40,000, which is not as expensive as a BMW.","html":"The Model 3 is priced at $40,000, which is not as expensive as a BMW.","likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"subComments":[],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":100911003,"commentId":"100911003","gmtCreate":1647914442532,"gmtModify":1663245505226,"authorId":9000000000000641,"author":{"id":9000000000000641,"idStr":"9000000000000641","authorId":9000000000000641,"name":"CyrilDavy","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fd67ba4a6ca5ca66b27af6afcce989dc","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9034289711,"objectIdStr":"9034289711","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"Problem shorts. When it comes to comparing Tesla to traditional car companies, they always compare apples to oranges.","text":"Problem shorts. When it comes to comparing Tesla to traditional car companies, they always compare apples to oranges.","html":"Problem shorts. When it comes to comparing Tesla to traditional car companies, they always compare apples to oranges.","likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"subComments":[],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":100910955,"commentId":"100910955","gmtCreate":1647914251798,"gmtModify":1663245502343,"authorId":9000000000000725,"author":{"id":9000000000000725,"idStr":"9000000000000725","authorId":9000000000000725,"name":"AfraSimon","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/46d30a827da942c1b0307f51e832534e","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9034289711,"objectIdStr":"9034289711","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"There are other EV companies but none are in the same level as Tesla. You stick with their so called competition and I will be with Tesla!","text":"There are other EV companies but none are in the same level as Tesla. You stick with their so called competition and I will be with Tesla!","html":"There are other EV companies but none are in the same level as Tesla. 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