What's overlooked are the plan

2022-03-10

What's overlooked are the plans to double capacity at Shanghai and expanding Fremont. Also possible announcement of new gigafactory around year end.

Lots of announcements made the past year with battery manufacturers Panasonic, Catl and maybe byd to make batteries for TSLA an long term contact with suppliers for battery material.

TSLA have been underestimated and undervalued for lot of things. Not perfect but a lot better than competition.

Tesla May Be Reaching Critical Point

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AfraSimon
2022-03-10
AfraSimon
TSLA is getting ready to jump, this time to 1600!! Tesla is worth $2,700 a share and $3,300 when Texas open
- BaronLyly:
  we are at the beginning of wave 5 or at the beginning of a wave 3 of higher degree, i hope for the last cause if this is that we run to $3,300 - if this is not the one, then we run to $2,700 approx give or take
MatthewWalter
2022-03-10
MatthewWalter
TSLA delivery will have no issues while RIVN F LCID GM all are having issues due to chips and materials shortage
- KittyBruno:
  Does Ford, Government Motors, Lucid, Rivian, and others have batteries for their EVs? Did they save hundreds of thousands of batteries for years?
- MyrnaNorth:
  Tesla’s so called competitors dropped the battery ball. They did not foresee the chemistry for batteries, resources to make batteries like nickel, lithium, cathode, and so on.
BorisBack
2022-03-10
BorisBack
Tesla has received so many orders in the last few weeks due to the high gasoline price especially in California. You will see the best quarter ever
CatherineGunter
2022-03-10
CatherineGunter
A lot of portfolio managers are underweight Tesla stock. Correcting that situation could generate buying and drive shares higher.
CrystalRose
2022-03-10
CrystalRose
Am glad i have a tesla,i dont worry about gas, Current price of oil should be good for sales, thumbs up if you agree
CyrilDavy
2022-03-10
CyrilDavy
Aren’t you amazed Tesla was able to open two huge state of the art EV factories with integral parts in two continents at nearly same time!!!!

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With the prices of oil and gasoline soaring, consumers and global governments are looking toward a future of renewable energy and less ICE vehicles. While the overall craziness around Tesla from years back seemed to have settled down, the future of the company could actually be reaching a critical point rather soon.Part of the bull case for last year was the opening of two new factories that would help with the company's next leg of growth. As we've seen with a number of past Tesla items, delays ensued, but things are finally progressing. The first deliveries from these factories should start in the coming months, although they aren't likely to make any meaningful contributions until much later this year. In terms of pure volume growth, the Berlin and Austin facilities are more important items for next year's delivery surge.Now that these factories are starting to produce vehicles, I'm curious to see how street analysts react. As I've detailed in previous articles, the street has been extremely conservative with regard to Tesla in recent quarters. As the table below shows, one analyst even sees Q4 revenues this year coming in below last year's Q4 total sales figure. Most Tesla bulls see at least an extra 125,000 deliveries in this year's Q4, so how is it possible that the company report lower revenue? These extremely low estimates continue to drag overall averages down, which helps Tesla report delivery, revenue, and earnings beats that don't truly reflect the reality here.Tesla Revenue Estimates(Seeking Alpha Estimates Page)As for the current quarter, total revenues are expected to be down a little sequentially, implying flat to slightly higher deliveries. That implies around 310,000 deliveries for Q1, a bit below my current expectation for 324,000. We got decent numbers out of China for January, and we're expected to get February numbers rather soon. Perhaps good data on that front will get the street average up a bit to a more realistic expectation.With gasoline prices soaring in recent weeks, the spotlight on electric vehicles has certainly increased. However, Tesla also faces a hit from the Russia situation as the country is a key nickel producer, and other commodity prices have also soared. Cobalt, copper, and lithium carbonate prices are on the rise as well, which could dent Tesla's margins in the coming quarters unless the company raises prices again. The consumers being hurt the most by rising energy prices can't just go out and buy EVs that start at $60,000, which will impact the ongoing shift to electric vehicles.Since Tesla unveiled the Cybertruck, for instance, prices of copper have nearly doubled, while cobalt, nickel, and lithium prices have more than doubled. That's going to make it hard for Tesla to achieve that sub $40,000 price point, unless it wants to lose a bit of money. For those arguing about massive battery savings coming up, just remember that the Model 3 starts at nearly $45,000 currently, and that's a much smaller vehicle and one that has been in mass production for years. Tesla is currently estimated to have well over a million reservations for the Cybertruck, so it will be interesting to see how many orders are canceled if prices jump 10%, 25%, or more once the vehicle actually comes to market.Perhaps the biggest risk for Tesla currently doesn't actually involve everyday operations, as there are a number of ongoing high profile lawsuits involving the company and or Elon Musk. As the company's10-K filing details, a decision on the lawsuit against the SolarCity acquisition is due in the coming months. A trial related to the 2018 CEO award is scheduled for April, while another case involving the $420 going private transaction is scheduled for trial in May. At the same time, the SECis reportedly looking into Elon and Kimbal Musk for alleged insider trading charges. These legal actions could have widespread ramifications for Tesla, its executives, and board members, but to what degree is uncertain at this point.As for Tesla shares, they remain in a very interesting place currently. Despite all the positive potential news for EV and solar lately, the stock has been hit with the overall market. Monday's close below $805 puts the stock well below the average street price target of $958. As the chart below shows, shares have recently lost the 200-day moving average (orange line). Without a rebound in the near term, that sets up the possibility of the dreaded death cross over the next few months, as the 50-day moving average (purple line) could cross below its longer term counterpart.Tesla Chart With Moving Averages(Yahoo Finance)In the end, Tesla may be approaching a key point in its history over the next couple of months. 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