Been talking about this for a

2023-05-03

Been talking about this for a year, your guess is as good as mine if it will happen.[Glance]

Stock Market Rally in Sight If Fed Hikes Then Pauses, JPMorgan Says

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neo26000
2023-05-03
neo26000
If rally does not happen, they can talk about it for the next year ...and the next...till it happens. And when it happens, they will claim credit. If not, easy...just blame the recession.
- Upswing118:
  true. nobody has a solution, trying to solve but not realising the grave getting bigger n deeper [Spurting]
- Upswing118:
  precisely. talk is cheap eh

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The JPMorgan scenarios were issued Monday, right before renewed selling in US regional banks sent equity indexes sharply lower and sparked a rally in Treasuries. Swaps markets continued to show traders betting the Fed will raise rates by a quarter point, though expectations for rate cuts later this year intensified.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The regional banking crisis saw a fourth lender fail on the weekend when the government brokered a sale of First Republic Bank to JPMorgan. Two other banks saw shares slide at least 20% Tuesday as investors worried more troubles lie ahead. Estimates for how the woes will impact lending and act as a brake on the economy vary, but most suggest it will be the equivalent of at least one quarter-point rate hike. 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The JPMorgan scenarios were issued Monday, right before renewed selling in US regional banks sent equity indexes sharply lower and sparked a rally in Treasuries. Swaps markets continued to show traders betting the Fed will raise rates by a quarter point, though expectations for rate cuts later this year intensified.The regional banking crisis saw a fourth lender fail on the weekend when the government brokered a sale of First Republic Bank to JPMorgan. Two other banks saw shares slide at least 20% Tuesday as investors worried more troubles lie ahead. Estimates for how the woes will impact lending and act as a brake on the economy vary, but most suggest it will be the equivalent of at least one quarter-point rate hike. The banking turmoil has helped fuel expectations for less central bank tightening. “Here the Fed would be relying on a tightening of lending standards stemming from the banking crisis to act as de facto rate hikes. 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