The demand for a tesla is mass

2023-03-08

The demand for a tesla is massive. Most can't afford to buy.

Reducing the price by say 5% increases their TAM by maybe 10%

At the investor day Elon said they were surprised but how much demand increased from small cuts in price.

Rob also wants to run the factories at full capacity and is willing to cut margins for growth, the idea being the more cars the bigger the software margins will be over FSD is available.

Tesla had margin to cut. No other ev manufacturers can cut their pricing. Most lose money now, so cutting prices increases losses while Tesla is hugely profitable.

Tesla can also shift battery supply to the energy business for health margin sales too

Tesla Price Cuts: Flagging Demand Or Tactic to Boost Sales?

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MIe
2023-03-08
MIe
Boost sales in china n usa
maricel
2023-03-08
maricel
[Great] [Great] [Great]
Samlunch
2023-03-08
Samlunch
Very flexible in pricing
jas68
2023-03-08
jas68
Good to know thanks
ed62
2023-03-08
ed62
noted with thanks 🙏
XIN.wyanny80c
2023-03-08
XIN.wyanny80c
wow

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