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鸿蒙概念爆炒，一地鸡毛还有多远？
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Project）开发的，但是也有相当部分是属于自主代码，除开手机OS，物联网部分确实是自主研发。</p>\n<p>根据华为以往历史，就算一开始抄了些东西（比如早期的交换机），但是它有办法最终发展成自主技术体系，而鸿蒙OS在目前应该说的确还是一个过渡期的产品，毕竟需要考虑到众多的软件开放商不会过多投入人力去专门支持一个新的操作系统。</p>\n<p>有人用特修斯之船悖论来描述现在的这种争议。特修斯之船最早出自普鲁塔克的记载，它描述的是一艘可以在海上航行几百年的船，归功于不间断的维修和替换部件。只要一块木板腐烂了，它就会被替换掉，以此类推，直到所有的功能部件都不是最开始的那些了。</p>\n<p>问题是，最终产生的这艘船是否还是原来的那艘特修斯之船，还是一艘完全不同的船？如果不是原来的船，那么在什么时候它不再是原来的船了？</p>\n<p>鸿蒙作为特殊时代的产物，鸿蒙的诞生拥有了一些悲情英雄的色彩，我们<b>不应该用技术洁癖去探讨到底是不是安卓套壳，只要是谷歌不来起诉，我觉得都不必为这事烦扰，我们应该祝福它并希望它取得最大程度的成功。</b></p>\n<p>但随之而来的问题是，其他厂商跟不跟，小米OV等其他安卓机是否会选择采用鸿蒙系统？</p>\n<p>这个我觉得在相当的一段时间内都不会发生。和鸿蒙合作，等于和谷歌交恶，国内影响不大，但是海外还是非常依赖谷歌生态的GMS，而哪个手机厂商又愿意放弃海外市场呢？</p>\n<p>其次，如果直接预装HarmonyOS，HarmonyOS尚未开源（开源的是那个基金会的OpenHarmony，类似于安卓的ASOP），使用手机鸿蒙必然要搭载华为的应用市场和hms。大家都知道国内的游戏渠道服都是五五分账，这么一大笔利润决然不可能让给别人，也是阻拦其他手机厂使用手机鸿蒙的最大障碍。而其他手机厂商短期也不会投入资源去开发基于OpenHarmony的操作系统。</p>\n<p>华为作为曾经国内占据手机半壁江山的霸主，没有人愿意把命脉捏在友商手里。试想一个场景，如果所有的手机厂商都使用了手机鸿蒙，而华为因为某种原因解禁了，那么此时国内手机行业华为就是裁判员+运动员的身份，可以轻易通过限制其他厂家的手机系统来实现优势，此时其他手机厂商再想回头拾回丢下的安卓魔改为时已晚。</p>\n<p>这里说明一点，为什么手机厂宁愿把命脉交给谷歌呢。首先，国内的安卓自成体系，不受谷歌的影响，哪怕谷歌禁用gms和闭源安卓12以后的版本，各家也能自己更新去应对，基本不会对国内的安卓市场有影响。</p>\n<p>其次，海外因为gms的原因，所有手机厂都已经被谷歌掐住了脖子，这已经是事实了。手机厂不会再在国内使用手机鸿蒙，给国内的市场再添一个被卡住的脖子。</p>\n<h3>3</h3>\n<h3><b>沾个边就能涨？</b></h3>\n<p>抛开技术层面的东西，我们来看二级市场的表现。二级市场不会管上面的一切，只要三根阳线，就能改变信阳。</p>\n<p>这是天风总结的鸿蒙概念股。<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b67632208a72103fb6381db8966e3804\" tg-width=\"822\" tg-height=\"457\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">我们来看下中间的一些走势：</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300598\">诚迈科技</a>：<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20598bd927347b0d16bcb537ca39b9d6\" tg-width=\"962\" tg-height=\"658\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">润和软件：<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5137d8383f1c3414d337fc54fe680d2a\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"630\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">九联科技：<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/282de331496bc3a764adf2c7444ea3c4\" tg-width=\"966\" tg-height=\"629\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">万兴科技：<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dad9fcb6cc3f92f582526eb3ab22c836\" tg-width=\"967\" tg-height=\"631\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">最近鸿蒙概念股都是这样的走势。</p>\n<p>其实很多鸿蒙概念股只是说公司旗下有产品入驻鸿蒙体系，这和我说我要开发一个苹果的APP是一样的道理。另一些只是和华为有些业务往来，华为这么大个公司谁还没点业务往来了。但是，二级市场就是如此疯狂。</p>\n<p>在股价大涨之下，很多公司也都发布了股价异常波动的提示公告。这些公司也很诚实，从公告中，我们可以基本得出这样的结论，鸿蒙对这些公司的业绩增长有限。</p>\n<p>比如同在基金会的润和软件也发布了公告，中间第五点，也说明了与鸿蒙的合作关系，但重点在于，公司自己明确表达鸿蒙相关业务在手订单占比较小，不会对公司业绩产生重大影响。<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f2201fd9f9179fac6739a56cfc77143\" tg-width=\"822\" tg-height=\"186\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">又比如<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/688609\">九联科技</a>的公告：目前公司基于鸿蒙系统的投入开发，智慧门铃等智慧家庭产品，处在产品开发阶段还未上市，未形成相关销售收入，未来市场存在不确定因素。<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7c86b0a8c09179965837cced43338574\" tg-width=\"822\" tg-height=\"187\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">只能说，我们祝福鸿蒙，但有人想利用这个概念割我韭菜，没门！</p>","source":"gelonghui_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" 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For all of its problems, Carnival remains the largest cruise line operator by market cap, and it holds the needed resources to survive a shipwreck in the near term. However, its time in port will probably have a lasting impact on the company for a long time to come, making it difficult for the leisure stock to gain traction long-term.</p>\n<div><img src=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F626593%2Fgettyimages-987366650_xzUTu31.jpg&w=700&op=resize\" srcset=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A//g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/626593/gettyimages-987366650_xzUTu31.jpg&w=300&op=resize 300w, https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A//g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/626593/gettyimages-987366650_xzUTu31.jpg&w=1000&op=resize 1000w, https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A//g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/626593/gettyimages-987366650_xzUTu31.jpg&w=2000&op=resize 2000w\"/>\n<p>Image source: Getty Images.</p>\n</div>\n<h2>Carnival will have to navigate rough waters for years to come</h2>\n<p>COVID-19 will eventually fade from the headlines, and tourists will probably return to cruising. The crisis may even <em>benefit </em>Carnival in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE\">one</a> key respect. The pandemic has permanently shipwrecked some smaller cruise companies that could not stay afloat without revenue. As the industry reemerges, Carnival could face less competition and possibly pick up ships from these defunct operators on the cheap.</p>\n<p>However, the industry has remained shuttered for over a year. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has offered a possible mid-July start date, according to what a CDC spokesperson told <em>USA Today</em>. Since almost 60% of American adults have received at least <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, cruise lines could finally get what they want in the form of a relaunch. Nonetheless, since the CDC has pushed this date back repeatedly, investors and travelers may not believe this sail date until they see ships leaving port.</p>\n<p>Moreover, investors cannot assume that cruises will return to full capacity instantly. The fact that Carnival has advertised many cruises for slightly above half price speaks to the fact that it will have to work to earn the trust and the business of passengers.</p>\n<p>Finally, even as the ships return to pre-pandemic passenger numbers, cruising is not a high-margin industry. In 2019, before the pandemic, Carnival earned about $3 billion off of approximately $20.8 billion in revenue. This 14% net margin leaves little room for prolonged industry slowdowns.</p><div></div>\n<h2>Carnival's financial situation</h2>\n<p>Unfortunately, the industry shutdown has not sheltered Carnival from its massive fixed costs. The company brought in only $26 million in the first quarter of 2021. Though it offloaded 72% of its operating expenses, these costs amounted to about $1.5 billion during the period. Also, the growing need for debt financing led to about $400 million in interest expenses. Along with its other costs, the company lost nearly $2 billion during that period.</p>\n<p>Investors should also remember that cruise ships remain in port, and they can expect at least one more quarter of negligible revenue.</p>\n<p>Carnival holds about $11.5 billion in liquidity, meaning it can endure another year of this. Still, maintaining an idle fleet has come at a tremendous cost. It had to issue a substantial amount of new shares. Now, almost 1.1 billion shares trade, well above the 684 million shares available just one year ago. Moreover, long-term debt now stands at more than $26.5 billion versus $9.7 billion before the pandemic started. Paying back those obligations will take years.</p>\n<p>The problem for investors is that the stock behaves as if it has already overcome this challenge. Indeed, Carnival has lost half of its value since the beginning of 2020. However, over the last 12 months, it has risen by more than 80%. If measured from the low in April 2020, it has surged by an astounding 225%.</p><div></div>\n<p><img src=\"https://media.ycharts.com/charts/5fe82c05adca631858557c09b8bdb189.png\"/>Data by YCharts.</p>\n<p>Moreover, with only negligible revenue, earnings and sales multiples are not applicable. Still, Carnival sells for about 1.5 times its book value, the value of the company after subtracting liabilities from assets. This makes the stock seem pricy considering that it will probably not bring in significant amounts of revenue until at least the third quarter.</p>\n<h2>The state of Carnival</h2>\n<p>Admittedly, Carnival's position as the largest cruise company and its cash position make its survival likely. However, survival does not mean prosperity. And even under the best of circumstances, the lack of revenue during the pandemic will probably strain the balance sheet for years or possibly decades into the future. Even if Carnival can return to profitability, this challenge will make Carnival a stock many investors will never buy.</p>\n<div></div>\n</span></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why I'll Never Own Carnival Cruise Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy I'll Never Own Carnival Cruise Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-05-15 00:00 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/15/why-ill-never-own-carnival-cruise-stock/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>At first glance, saying \"never\" to sailing with Carnival (NYSE:CCL) (NYSE:CUK) stock seems like an emotional decision. For all of its problems, Carnival remains the largest cruise line operator by ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/15/why-ill-never-own-carnival-cruise-stock/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"CCL":"嘉年华邮轮"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/15/why-ill-never-own-carnival-cruise-stock/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2135898682","content_text":"At first glance, saying \"never\" to sailing with Carnival (NYSE:CCL) (NYSE:CUK) stock seems like an emotional decision. For all of its problems, Carnival remains the largest cruise line operator by market cap, and it holds the needed resources to survive a shipwreck in the near term. However, its time in port will probably have a lasting impact on the company for a long time to come, making it difficult for the leisure stock to gain traction long-term.\n\nImage source: Getty Images.\n\nCarnival will have to navigate rough waters for years to come\nCOVID-19 will eventually fade from the headlines, and tourists will probably return to cruising. The crisis may even benefit Carnival in one key respect. The pandemic has permanently shipwrecked some smaller cruise companies that could not stay afloat without revenue. As the industry reemerges, Carnival could face less competition and possibly pick up ships from these defunct operators on the cheap.\nHowever, the industry has remained shuttered for over a year. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has offered a possible mid-July start date, according to what a CDC spokesperson told USA Today. Since almost 60% of American adults have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, cruise lines could finally get what they want in the form of a relaunch. Nonetheless, since the CDC has pushed this date back repeatedly, investors and travelers may not believe this sail date until they see ships leaving port.\nMoreover, investors cannot assume that cruises will return to full capacity instantly. The fact that Carnival has advertised many cruises for slightly above half price speaks to the fact that it will have to work to earn the trust and the business of passengers.\nFinally, even as the ships return to pre-pandemic passenger numbers, cruising is not a high-margin industry. In 2019, before the pandemic, Carnival earned about $3 billion off of approximately $20.8 billion in revenue. This 14% net margin leaves little room for prolonged industry slowdowns.\nCarnival's financial situation\nUnfortunately, the industry shutdown has not sheltered Carnival from its massive fixed costs. The company brought in only $26 million in the first quarter of 2021. Though it offloaded 72% of its operating expenses, these costs amounted to about $1.5 billion during the period. Also, the growing need for debt financing led to about $400 million in interest expenses. Along with its other costs, the company lost nearly $2 billion during that period.\nInvestors should also remember that cruise ships remain in port, and they can expect at least one more quarter of negligible revenue.\nCarnival holds about $11.5 billion in liquidity, meaning it can endure another year of this. Still, maintaining an idle fleet has come at a tremendous cost. It had to issue a substantial amount of new shares. Now, almost 1.1 billion shares trade, well above the 684 million shares available just one year ago. Moreover, long-term debt now stands at more than $26.5 billion versus $9.7 billion before the pandemic started. Paying back those obligations will take years.\nThe problem for investors is that the stock behaves as if it has already overcome this challenge. Indeed, Carnival has lost half of its value since the beginning of 2020. However, over the last 12 months, it has risen by more than 80%. If measured from the low in April 2020, it has surged by an astounding 225%.\nData by YCharts.\nMoreover, with only negligible revenue, earnings and sales multiples are not applicable. Still, Carnival sells for about 1.5 times its book value, the value of the company after subtracting liabilities from assets. This makes the stock seem pricy considering that it will probably not bring in significant amounts of revenue until at least the third quarter.\nThe state of Carnival\nAdmittedly, Carnival's position as the largest cruise company and its cash position make its survival likely. However, survival does not mean prosperity. And even under the best of circumstances, the lack of revenue during the pandemic will probably strain the balance sheet for years or possibly decades into the future. Even if Carnival can return to profitability, this challenge will make Carnival a stock many investors will never buy.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":276,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}
