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EV很可能没有被赋能，但有不少电动车确实身负了新能力，比如“特斯拉”。不久前，在与用户的互动中，马斯克承认“特斯拉”的车内摄像头可以捕捉、检测驾驶者的目光，并据此判定驾驶者是否足够专心。这次互动的背景是，一些驾驶者因为对路况没有给予足够的关注，“特斯拉”FSD beta版本（全自动驾驶测试版）的试用权限被收回。　　这件事强力证明，“特斯拉”车内信息系统的收集、分析能力，已经达到一定高度。或许，今后驾乘“特斯拉”的人，言行确实需要适当注意一些。这应该不是杞人之忧，毕竟在信息实时搜集、实时上传的技术背景下，“特斯拉云”是否足够安全，是否能够屏蔽一些不相干的人或AI听到、看到车内发生的一切，在相当程度上决定着用户的驾乘体验。去年底，有黑客成功黑进了“特斯拉”FSD 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