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11-21 22:57
$Baidu(BIDU)$
Chinese shiit stocks
Brrnie
11-20 19:43
Money burning crap
NIO Sales Fall Short as China EV Price War Weighs on Revenue
Brrnie
11-20 18:20
Same story for three years. Scam stock
Alibaba: Major Declines Create Buying Opportunity
Brrnie
11-20 10:13
$BABA-W(09988)$
frigging disappointing
Brrnie
11-19 21:39
$Microvast Holdings, Inc.(MVST)$
frigging falling knife
Brrnie
11-15
$NIO Inc.(NIO)$
turd
Brrnie
11-12
$BABA-W(09988)$
frigging shiit stock
Brrnie
10-30
$Daqo New(DQ)$
roller coaster ride
Brrnie
10-18
$BABA-W(09988)$
frigging crap stock
Brrnie
10-18
Bullshxxt news. Honkong stocks dive
Hong Kong Stocks Shine After China Datas; Meituan Jumps 10%; Alibaba Gains 4%
Brrnie
10-15
$BABA-W(09988)$
Chinese stocks doomed again. Sigh. Useless cpc
Brrnie
10-08
$Alibaba(BABA)$
Chinese shiiits
Brrnie
09-25
$BABA-W(09988)$
frigging shit. Can't hold gain for a day
Brrnie
09-16
$Daqo New(DQ)$
wyf is going on today
Brrnie
09-10
$Microvast Holdings, Inc.(MVST)$
piece of junk
Brrnie
08-28
$NIO Inc.(NIO)$
frigging shit stock with shithead li
Brrnie
08-20
$Alibaba(09988)$
honkong market is disgrace. Dragging down always
Brrnie
08-15
$Alibaba(09988)$
where's jack? Disappeared completely?
Brrnie
07-30
$DouYu(DOYU)$
what's the heck going on
Brrnie
07-05
$NIO Inc.(NIO)$
the cash burner is doomed. More revenue means more losses
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Revenue is likely to increase to between 19.7 billion yuan and 20.4 billion yuan in the fourth quarter, the company said, short of analyst expectations of 22.5 billion yuan.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nio’s third-quarter results show the impact of a bruising price war started by Tesla in the Chinese EV market, with most automakers forced to discount their vehicles or throw in more freebies to protect market share. Although initially resistant, Nio also followed suit by slashing the prices of their vehicles by up to 30,000 yuan last year.</p><p>Nio’s mass market Onvo brand has been well received since its launch in May, with tens of thousands of orders for the L60 electric sport utility vehicle. While deliveries, which started in September, have been slow because of the time it takes to ramp up production, Chief Executive Officer William Li has said he hopes monthly shipments can reach 10,000 in December and double to 20,000 by March, according to Chinese media reports.</p><p>The company is one of the last few EV makers in China that remains committed to producing only battery electric cars, with many rivals, including Xpeng Inc., Zeekr and Avatr Technology Co., planning to develop extended-range EVs, which come with a small internal combustion engine to recharge the battery.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This means the Shanghai-based company will lose out in the popular and profitable hybrid segment, which is outpacing pure-play EVs.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nio also stands out with its battery-swapping service, which it says can change a dead battery for a fully charged one in three minutes, beating the long charge times of other EVs. However, the battery-swapping stations are expensive to build and Nio’s R&D costs reached 3.3 billion yuan in the third quarter, up 9.2% from a year earlier.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Sales Fall Short as China EV Price War Weighs on Revenue</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO Sales Fall Short as China EV Price War Weighs on Revenue\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-20 23:35 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/nio-sales-fall-short-as-china-ev-price-war-weighs-on-revenue?srnd=homepage-americas><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Chinese premium electric-car maker Nio Inc. reported revenue that missed estimates and a bigger-than-expected loss as it continues to weather a bruising price war.NIO Q3 earnings call: NIO is ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/nio-sales-fall-short-as-china-ev-price-war-weighs-on-revenue?srnd=homepage-americas\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09866":"蔚来-SW","NIO":"蔚来","NIO.SI":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/nio-sales-fall-short-as-china-ev-price-war-weighs-on-revenue?srnd=homepage-americas","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1151436892","content_text":"Chinese premium electric-car maker Nio Inc. reported revenue that missed estimates and a bigger-than-expected loss as it continues to weather a bruising price war.NIO Q3 earnings call: NIO is confident of doubling sales next year and aims to be profitable by 2026. The third brand is officially named Firefly and its first model will begin deliveries in the first half of 2025.NIO stock jumped 3.5% in morning trading, reversing initial losses.Revenue rose to 18.7 billion yuan ($2.6 billion) in the three months ended Sept. 30 after the company delivered a record 61,855 cars in the quarter, still short of analyst estimates of 19.2 billion yuan. It reported a 4.4 billion yuan adjusted net loss for the quarter, according to a statement Wednesday, more than the 4.3 billion yuan projected by analysts.Revenue from vehicle sales saw a slight decrease over the third quarter of 2023, mainly due to changes in the product mix lowering the average selling price, which was partially offset by the increase in delivery volume. Nio’s gross margin grew to 10.7% from 8% a year earlier, roughly in line with estimates.Nio aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter.Chief Financial Officer Stanley Yu Qu said he expected future models to help improve the EV maker’s financial performance.“Starting next year, our three brands are poised to embark on a robust product cycle, projected to elevate the company’s sales volume to new heights. We expect this momentum will drive continued improvements,” he said.The automaker aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter, short of analyst estimates of 77,950. Revenue is likely to increase to between 19.7 billion yuan and 20.4 billion yuan in the fourth quarter, the company said, short of analyst expectations of 22.5 billion yuan.Nio’s third-quarter results show the impact of a bruising price war started by Tesla in the Chinese EV market, with most automakers forced to discount their vehicles or throw in more freebies to protect market share. Although initially resistant, Nio also followed suit by slashing the prices of their vehicles by up to 30,000 yuan last year.Nio’s mass market Onvo brand has been well received since its launch in May, with tens of thousands of orders for the L60 electric sport utility vehicle. While deliveries, which started in September, have been slow because of the time it takes to ramp up production, Chief Executive Officer William Li has said he hopes monthly shipments can reach 10,000 in December and double to 20,000 by March, according to Chinese media reports.The company is one of the last few EV makers in China that remains committed to producing only battery electric cars, with many rivals, including Xpeng Inc., Zeekr and Avatr Technology Co., planning to develop extended-range EVs, which come with a small internal combustion engine to recharge the battery.This means the Shanghai-based company will lose out in the popular and profitable hybrid segment, which is outpacing pure-play EVs.Nio also stands out with its battery-swapping service, which it says can change a dead battery for a fully charged one in three minutes, beating the long charge times of other EVs. However, the battery-swapping stations are expensive to build and Nio’s R&D costs reached 3.3 billion yuan in the third quarter, up 9.2% from a year earlier.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":7,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":373017292001288,"gmtCreate":1732098051395,"gmtModify":1732098055167,"author":{"id":"3569189138119123","authorId":"3569189138119123","name":"Brrnie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/535df402960cd7d1f41b24d9f5d687b7","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3569189138119123","authorIdStr":"3569189138119123"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Same story for three years. Scam stock ","listText":"Same story for three years. Scam stock ","text":"Same story for three years. Scam stock","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/373017292001288","repostId":"2484942498","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2484942498","pubTimestamp":1732117800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2484942498?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-20 23:50","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba: Major Declines Create Buying Opportunity","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2484942498","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"we entered into long-term collaborations with industry peers to broaden payment and logistics services on Taobao and Tmall platforms, which we expect will accelerate our overall growth. Growth in our Cloud business accelerated from prior qua","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>I am upgrading Alibaba to a "strong buy" due to stable quarterly earnings figures and Chinese government stimulus measures aimed at boosting economic growth.</p></li><li><p>Alibaba's net income surged 58% annually, driven by equity investments, while cloud segment revenues grew 7%, showing strength in AI and cloud services.</p></li><li><p>Despite mixed earnings, Alibaba's valuation metrics, particularly price-book ratio, indicate it remains attractively valued compared to industry peers.</p></li><li><p>Recent price declines suggest limited downside, with support likely near $81.60, making BABA a compelling long-term growth investment.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bb459413c0d6682ec811f5128f1e7365\" alt=\"Robert Way\" title=\"Robert Way\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Robert Way</span></p><p>When I last covered Alibaba Group (NYSE:BABA) on October 12th, 2024 with my article “Alibaba: Buy The Pullback”, the stock was in the process of breaking out of a prolonged trading range that had been in place since January 2022. Broadly speaking, my article thesis revolved around the idea that BABA stock was currently undervalued in relation to its industry peer grouping. Since then, the stock has been influenced by significant updates that have fundamentally changed the outlook. As a result, I will be raising my outlook for this stock to a “strong buy” rating, with the expectation that BABA shares can still make sizable moves upward before the end of this year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1a883c450ecf934d93edd5187e27678e\" alt=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" title=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"303\"/><span>Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)</span></p><p>In addition to posting surprising quarterly earnings figures, the stock has also been impacted by stimulus measures that have been enacted by the Chinese government, which include a 1.4 trillion yuan plan that will be carried out over the next five years and is designed to energize stagnating growth rates in China and make improvements within the country’s dramatically weakened real estate markets. For the quarter ending in September, Alibaba posted somewhat mixed results with adjusted earnings of $2.08 per share and this figure was a slight beat of 1.62% relative to consensus estimates. However, Alibaba’s quarterly revenue figure missed consensus estimate by -1.23% (coming in at $32.7 billion). Despite missing market expectations, Alibaba’s revenue figure actually indicates annualized gains of 5%, while the quarterly EPS figure points to annualized declines of -4% for the period.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1a90a7c6a5d8a31381a043bc6345d078\" alt=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" title=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"291\"/><span>Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)</span></p><p>Overall, the quarterly figures that stand out the most in the report can be found in Alibaba’s net income, which came in at $6.07 billion and surpassed consensus expectations by an incredible amount (69.96%). Ultimately, these figures indicate annualized growth rates of 58% and were driven primarily by strength in Alibaba’s equity investments. In discussing these quarterly performances, Alibaba CEO Eddie Wu explained:</p><blockquote><p>This quarter… we entered into long-term collaborations with industry peers to broaden payment and logistics services on Taobao and Tmall platforms, which we expect will accelerate our overall growth. Growth in our Cloud business accelerated from prior quarters, with revenues from public cloud products growing in double digits and AI-related product revenue delivering triple-digit growth. We are more confident in our core businesses than ever and will continue to invest in supporting long-term growth. Our other businesses continued to improve their operating efficiency, with most of them continuing to increase their profitability or reduce losses.</p></blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/dc272ce15c61d1cd21706073a67cb499\" alt=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" title=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"506\"/><span>Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)</span></p><p>One more remarkable aspect of Alibaba’s most recent earnings report can be found in the quarterly performances within the cloud segment, where revenues came in at nearly $4.1 billion and indicated annualized growth rates of 7%. Fortunately, this performance marked a minor increase from the 6% annualized gains posted during the prior quarter, and this shows that Alibaba’s plans to fortify its cloud infrastructure and gain market share in both artificial intelligence and cloud services. In large part, these efforts have been hindered by the Chinese government's efforts to clamp down on leading technology companies, in moves that reached heights in 2022. In the periods that followed, Alibaba has had to make significant changes in leadership roles in several areas and engage in strategic moves to promote growth through focused competition with Chinese rivals as a way of navigating through rising challenges within the domestic economic framework.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5ebb57e1f15951b361378f0d38c63c8d\" alt=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)\" title=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/><span>Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)</span></p><p>Generalized weaknesses in the Chinese economy with respect to e-commerce and consumer spending on China’s mainland have created situations where several retailers in the region have recently reported lackluster quarterly earnings results. One other example is JD.com, Inc. (JD) and recent declines in share prices have sent shares of the stock to a lower forward price-earnings ratio of 8.737x. Of course, this is firmly below Alibaba’s current forward price-earnings ratio (which now stands at 10.54x). Clearly, these weaker valuations have become a trend within the industry because roughly similar metrics can be seen in PDD Holdings, Inc. (PDD), which is currently trading with a forward price-earnings multiple of 9.781x. Interestingly, we can compare this to a U.S. e-commerce retailer like Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), which trades with a much higher forward price-earnings ratio of 39.55x. But it should also be noted that there are still similar North American companies within the same competing industry peer that are trading at much lower valuations. Two of my favorite options with lower current valuations would be <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EBAY\">eBay</a> Inc. (EBAY) at 12.7x and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ETSY\">Etsy, Inc.</a> (ETSY) at 11.08x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/33ddb59748bfc56671e4b61296e56685\" alt=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)\" title=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/><span>Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)</span></p><p>If we change the valuation metric and use the forward price-sales ratio, Alibaba starts to look more favorable within this industry peer grouping (at 1.507x) because PinDuoDuo is trading at nearly twice the valuation (at 2.813x). Conversely, JD.com is still much cheaper (at 0.325x) but the North American stocks are significantly more expensive, with Amazon now seen with a forward price-sales ratio of 3.332x. Somewhat similar metrics for eBay can be seen at 2.863x, but Etsy is currently trading at much lower valuations at 1.981x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e4280be8f748460aae97a76e5d463d66\" alt=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)\" title=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/><span>Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)</span></p><p>In Alibaba’s case, price-book ratios arguably offer the most favorable valuation metric because the company is currently trading at just 1.642x book value. In this case, both JD.com (at 1.687x) and PinDuoDuo (which is much higher, at 4.531x) are trading at more expensive valuations at the moment. North American counterparts are currently looking far less attractive using this valuation basis, as Amazon is trading with an elevated price-book ratio of 8.199x, while eBay is seen at 5.432x and Etsy trades massively higher (with a jaw-dropping price-book valuation of 22.11x). On balance, I think this broader valuation metric gives us the best sense of Alibaba’s current position relative to key competitors within the industry, and I think these trends show us that Alibaba remains attractively valued at the moment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/faf3e8777bd496182683dce1c72ffb47\" alt=\"Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)\" title=\"Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"568\"/><span>Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)</span></p><p>In addition to potential overvaluation risks that can be seen when analyzing Alibaba on the comparative basis of its forward price-earnings metrics, recent price moves in shares of BABA show possible warning signals for long trades taken near current levels. Specifically, the stock has recently fallen through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement of the bullish rally from the June 24th, 2024 lows of $71.80 to the October 7th, 2024 highs of $117.82 (which is located above $89.30). Additionally, the stock’s 200-period exponential moving average on the 4-hour timeframe was also broken during this recent price decline, and this suggests that BABA might still fall further before finding support. To the downside, I will next be watching for a possible test of the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement of the aforementioned price move (which currently rests below $81.60). Fortunately, stochastic indicator readings are currently holding at oversold levels, and this ultimately suggests that share prices are likely to start finding support relatively soon. As a result, I think that further declines might be limited, and I believe that the stock’s attractive relative price-book valuations are supported by the longer-term growth prospects that continue to develop within Alibaba’s recent quarterly earnings reports. For these reasons, I will continue holding my long position and I expect to see the stock rally to new near-term highs before the end of the year.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba: Major Declines Create Buying Opportunity</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Broadly speaking, my article thesis revolved around the idea that BABA stock was currently undervalued in relation to its industry peer grouping. Since then, the stock has been influenced by significant updates that have fundamentally changed the outlook. As a result, I will be raising my outlook for this stock to a “strong buy” rating, with the expectation that BABA shares can still make sizable moves upward before the end of this year.Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)In addition to posting surprising quarterly earnings figures, the stock has also been impacted by stimulus measures that have been enacted by the Chinese government, which include a 1.4 trillion yuan plan that will be carried out over the next five years and is designed to energize stagnating growth rates in China and make improvements within the country’s dramatically weakened real estate markets. For the quarter ending in September, Alibaba posted somewhat mixed results with adjusted earnings of $2.08 per share and this figure was a slight beat of 1.62% relative to consensus estimates. However, Alibaba’s quarterly revenue figure missed consensus estimate by -1.23% (coming in at $32.7 billion). Despite missing market expectations, Alibaba’s revenue figure actually indicates annualized gains of 5%, while the quarterly EPS figure points to annualized declines of -4% for the period.Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)Overall, the quarterly figures that stand out the most in the report can be found in Alibaba’s net income, which came in at $6.07 billion and surpassed consensus expectations by an incredible amount (69.96%). Ultimately, these figures indicate annualized growth rates of 58% and were driven primarily by strength in Alibaba’s equity investments. In discussing these quarterly performances, Alibaba CEO Eddie Wu explained:This quarter… we entered into long-term collaborations with industry peers to broaden payment and logistics services on Taobao and Tmall platforms, which we expect will accelerate our overall growth. Growth in our Cloud business accelerated from prior quarters, with revenues from public cloud products growing in double digits and AI-related product revenue delivering triple-digit growth. We are more confident in our core businesses than ever and will continue to invest in supporting long-term growth. Our other businesses continued to improve their operating efficiency, with most of them continuing to increase their profitability or reduce losses.Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)One more remarkable aspect of Alibaba’s most recent earnings report can be found in the quarterly performances within the cloud segment, where revenues came in at nearly $4.1 billion and indicated annualized growth rates of 7%. Fortunately, this performance marked a minor increase from the 6% annualized gains posted during the prior quarter, and this shows that Alibaba’s plans to fortify its cloud infrastructure and gain market share in both artificial intelligence and cloud services. In large part, these efforts have been hindered by the Chinese government's efforts to clamp down on leading technology companies, in moves that reached heights in 2022. In the periods that followed, Alibaba has had to make significant changes in leadership roles in several areas and engage in strategic moves to promote growth through focused competition with Chinese rivals as a way of navigating through rising challenges within the domestic economic framework.Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)Generalized weaknesses in the Chinese economy with respect to e-commerce and consumer spending on China’s mainland have created situations where several retailers in the region have recently reported lackluster quarterly earnings results. One other example is JD.com, Inc. (JD) and recent declines in share prices have sent shares of the stock to a lower forward price-earnings ratio of 8.737x. Of course, this is firmly below Alibaba’s current forward price-earnings ratio (which now stands at 10.54x). Clearly, these weaker valuations have become a trend within the industry because roughly similar metrics can be seen in PDD Holdings, Inc. (PDD), which is currently trading with a forward price-earnings multiple of 9.781x. Interestingly, we can compare this to a U.S. e-commerce retailer like Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), which trades with a much higher forward price-earnings ratio of 39.55x. But it should also be noted that there are still similar North American companies within the same competing industry peer that are trading at much lower valuations. Two of my favorite options with lower current valuations would be eBay Inc. (EBAY) at 12.7x and Etsy, Inc. (ETSY) at 11.08x.Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)If we change the valuation metric and use the forward price-sales ratio, Alibaba starts to look more favorable within this industry peer grouping (at 1.507x) because PinDuoDuo is trading at nearly twice the valuation (at 2.813x). Conversely, JD.com is still much cheaper (at 0.325x) but the North American stocks are significantly more expensive, with Amazon now seen with a forward price-sales ratio of 3.332x. Somewhat similar metrics for eBay can be seen at 2.863x, but Etsy is currently trading at much lower valuations at 1.981x.Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)In Alibaba’s case, price-book ratios arguably offer the most favorable valuation metric because the company is currently trading at just 1.642x book value. In this case, both JD.com (at 1.687x) and PinDuoDuo (which is much higher, at 4.531x) are trading at more expensive valuations at the moment. North American counterparts are currently looking far less attractive using this valuation basis, as Amazon is trading with an elevated price-book ratio of 8.199x, while eBay is seen at 5.432x and Etsy trades massively higher (with a jaw-dropping price-book valuation of 22.11x). On balance, I think this broader valuation metric gives us the best sense of Alibaba’s current position relative to key competitors within the industry, and I think these trends show us that Alibaba remains attractively valued at the moment.Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)In addition to potential overvaluation risks that can be seen when analyzing Alibaba on the comparative basis of its forward price-earnings metrics, recent price moves in shares of BABA show possible warning signals for long trades taken near current levels. Specifically, the stock has recently fallen through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement of the bullish rally from the June 24th, 2024 lows of $71.80 to the October 7th, 2024 highs of $117.82 (which is located above $89.30). Additionally, the stock’s 200-period exponential moving average on the 4-hour timeframe was also broken during this recent price decline, and this suggests that BABA might still fall further before finding support. To the downside, I will next be watching for a possible test of the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement of the aforementioned price move (which currently rests below $81.60). Fortunately, stochastic indicator readings are currently holding at oversold levels, and this ultimately suggests that share prices are likely to start finding support relatively soon. As a result, I think that further declines might be limited, and I believe that the stock’s attractive relative price-book valuations are supported by the longer-term growth prospects that continue to develop within Alibaba’s recent quarterly earnings reports. For these reasons, I will continue holding my long position and I expect to see the stock rally to new near-term highs before the end of the year.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372976917889328,"gmtCreate":1732068798548,"gmtModify":1732068802460,"author":{"id":"3569189138119123","authorId":"3569189138119123","name":"Brrnie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/535df402960cd7d1f41b24d9f5d687b7","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3569189138119123","authorIdStr":"3569189138119123"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$BABA-W(09988)$ </a> frigging disappointing ","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$BABA-W(09988)$ </a> frigging disappointing ","text":"$BABA-W(09988)$ frigging 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CMSC and HG SEMI rose 31%; SWHY rose 25%; SMIC rose 17%; CICC rose 16%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">While tech stocks also jumped. Meituan rose 10%; Bilibili rose 9%; Trip.com rose 8%; BYD and Xiaomi rose 7%; JD.com, Baidu, and Alibaba rose 4%; XPeng rose 3%; NIO rose 2%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f2fad0a24f23af5e3849524363e09d7d\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"358\" tg-height=\"3095\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"></p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Hong Kong Stocks Shine After China Datas; Meituan Jumps 10%; Alibaba Gains 4%</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nHong Kong Stocks Shine After China Datas; Meituan Jumps 10%; Alibaba Gains 4%\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-10-18 14:45</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Hong Kong stocks extended gains in afternoon trading after China datas.</p><p>China's Third-Quarter GDP grew 4.6%, slightly beating expectations; Industrial output, retail sales beat, expand faster than August; Jan.-Sept. fixed investment also rises more than expected.</p><p>Meanwhile, PBOC Governor said China will cut RRR Furthery by 25 to 50 bps based on market liduidity before end-2024, and to cut LPR by 20 -25 bps on Oct.21; PBOC officially launched securities, funds, and insurance company swap facility (sfisf) operations starting today; PBOC launched special re-lending program with initial quota of 300 billion yuan, interest rate at 1.75%, one-year term.</p><p>The Hang Seng Index rose nearly 4%, while the Hang Seng Tech Index rose 6.2%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6a0b2b97d1f6c822b7fd7cad19b36726\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"918\" tg-height=\"46\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In terms of individual stocks, securities companies and semiconductor companies surged in afternoon trading. CMSC and HG SEMI rose 31%; SWHY rose 25%; SMIC rose 17%; CICC rose 16%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">While tech stocks also jumped. Meituan rose 10%; Bilibili rose 9%; Trip.com rose 8%; BYD and Xiaomi rose 7%; JD.com, Baidu, and Alibaba rose 4%; XPeng rose 3%; NIO rose 2%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f2fad0a24f23af5e3849524363e09d7d\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"358\" tg-height=\"3095\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"></p><p></p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"06099":"招商证券","09626":"哔哩哔哩-W","09618":"京东集团-SW","02777":"富力地产","03908":"中金公司","06806":"申万宏源","09888":"百度集团-SW","03690":"美团-W","00981":"中芯国际","01810":"小米集团-W","HSI":"恒生指数","09866":"蔚来-SW","HSTECH":"恒生科技指数","03301":"融信中国","01918":"融创中国","09868":"小鹏汽车-W","06908":"宏光半导体"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1123157368","content_text":"Hong Kong stocks extended gains in afternoon trading after China datas.China's Third-Quarter GDP grew 4.6%, slightly beating expectations; Industrial output, retail sales beat, expand faster than August; Jan.-Sept. fixed investment also rises more than expected.Meanwhile, PBOC Governor said China will cut RRR Furthery by 25 to 50 bps based on market liduidity before end-2024, and to cut LPR by 20 -25 bps on Oct.21; PBOC officially launched securities, funds, and insurance company swap facility (sfisf) operations starting today; PBOC launched special re-lending program with initial quota of 300 billion yuan, interest rate at 1.75%, one-year term.The Hang Seng Index rose nearly 4%, while the Hang Seng Tech Index rose 6.2%.In terms of individual stocks, securities companies and semiconductor companies surged in afternoon trading. 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The third brand is officially named Firefly and its first model will begin deliveries in the first half of 2025.</p><p>NIO stock jumped 3.5% in morning trading, reversing initial losses.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ca90f7b090843f2a8d286fa3ad98295e\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"537\" tg-height=\"127\"/></p><p>Revenue rose to 18.7 billion yuan ($2.6 billion) in the three months ended Sept. 30 after the company delivered a record 61,855 cars in the quarter, still short of analyst estimates of 19.2 billion yuan. It reported a 4.4 billion yuan adjusted net loss for the quarter, according to a statement Wednesday, more than the 4.3 billion yuan projected by analysts.</p><p>Revenue from vehicle sales saw a slight decrease over the third quarter of 2023, mainly due to changes in the product mix lowering the average selling price, which was partially offset by the increase in delivery volume. Nio’s gross margin grew to 10.7% from 8% a year earlier, roughly in line with estimates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/902277f6280abc6d680910353cc0e921\" title=\"Nio aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter.\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1333\"/><span>Nio aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter.</span></p><p>Chief Financial Officer Stanley Yu Qu said he expected future models to help improve the EV maker’s financial performance.</p><p>“Starting next year, our three brands are poised to embark on a robust product cycle, projected to elevate the company’s sales volume to new heights. We expect this momentum will drive continued improvements,” he said.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The automaker aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter, short of analyst estimates of 77,950. Revenue is likely to increase to between 19.7 billion yuan and 20.4 billion yuan in the fourth quarter, the company said, short of analyst expectations of 22.5 billion yuan.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nio’s third-quarter results show the impact of a bruising price war started by Tesla in the Chinese EV market, with most automakers forced to discount their vehicles or throw in more freebies to protect market share. Although initially resistant, Nio also followed suit by slashing the prices of their vehicles by up to 30,000 yuan last year.</p><p>Nio’s mass market Onvo brand has been well received since its launch in May, with tens of thousands of orders for the L60 electric sport utility vehicle. While deliveries, which started in September, have been slow because of the time it takes to ramp up production, Chief Executive Officer William Li has said he hopes monthly shipments can reach 10,000 in December and double to 20,000 by March, according to Chinese media reports.</p><p>The company is one of the last few EV makers in China that remains committed to producing only battery electric cars, with many rivals, including Xpeng Inc., Zeekr and Avatr Technology Co., planning to develop extended-range EVs, which come with a small internal combustion engine to recharge the battery.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This means the Shanghai-based company will lose out in the popular and profitable hybrid segment, which is outpacing pure-play EVs.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nio also stands out with its battery-swapping service, which it says can change a dead battery for a fully charged one in three minutes, beating the long charge times of other EVs. However, the battery-swapping stations are expensive to build and Nio’s R&D costs reached 3.3 billion yuan in the third quarter, up 9.2% from a year earlier.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Sales Fall Short as China EV Price War Weighs on Revenue</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO Sales Fall Short as China EV Price War Weighs on Revenue\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-20 23:35 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/nio-sales-fall-short-as-china-ev-price-war-weighs-on-revenue?srnd=homepage-americas><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Chinese premium electric-car maker Nio Inc. reported revenue that missed estimates and a bigger-than-expected loss as it continues to weather a bruising price war.NIO Q3 earnings call: NIO is ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/nio-sales-fall-short-as-china-ev-price-war-weighs-on-revenue?srnd=homepage-americas\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09866":"蔚来-SW","NIO":"蔚来","NIO.SI":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/nio-sales-fall-short-as-china-ev-price-war-weighs-on-revenue?srnd=homepage-americas","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1151436892","content_text":"Chinese premium electric-car maker Nio Inc. reported revenue that missed estimates and a bigger-than-expected loss as it continues to weather a bruising price war.NIO Q3 earnings call: NIO is confident of doubling sales next year and aims to be profitable by 2026. The third brand is officially named Firefly and its first model will begin deliveries in the first half of 2025.NIO stock jumped 3.5% in morning trading, reversing initial losses.Revenue rose to 18.7 billion yuan ($2.6 billion) in the three months ended Sept. 30 after the company delivered a record 61,855 cars in the quarter, still short of analyst estimates of 19.2 billion yuan. It reported a 4.4 billion yuan adjusted net loss for the quarter, according to a statement Wednesday, more than the 4.3 billion yuan projected by analysts.Revenue from vehicle sales saw a slight decrease over the third quarter of 2023, mainly due to changes in the product mix lowering the average selling price, which was partially offset by the increase in delivery volume. Nio’s gross margin grew to 10.7% from 8% a year earlier, roughly in line with estimates.Nio aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter.Chief Financial Officer Stanley Yu Qu said he expected future models to help improve the EV maker’s financial performance.“Starting next year, our three brands are poised to embark on a robust product cycle, projected to elevate the company’s sales volume to new heights. We expect this momentum will drive continued improvements,” he said.The automaker aims to deliver between 72,000 and 75,000 vehicles this quarter, short of analyst estimates of 77,950. Revenue is likely to increase to between 19.7 billion yuan and 20.4 billion yuan in the fourth quarter, the company said, short of analyst expectations of 22.5 billion yuan.Nio’s third-quarter results show the impact of a bruising price war started by Tesla in the Chinese EV market, with most automakers forced to discount their vehicles or throw in more freebies to protect market share. Although initially resistant, Nio also followed suit by slashing the prices of their vehicles by up to 30,000 yuan last year.Nio’s mass market Onvo brand has been well received since its launch in May, with tens of thousands of orders for the L60 electric sport utility vehicle. While deliveries, which started in September, have been slow because of the time it takes to ramp up production, Chief Executive Officer William Li has said he hopes monthly shipments can reach 10,000 in December and double to 20,000 by March, according to Chinese media reports.The company is one of the last few EV makers in China that remains committed to producing only battery electric cars, with many rivals, including Xpeng Inc., Zeekr and Avatr Technology Co., planning to develop extended-range EVs, which come with a small internal combustion engine to recharge the battery.This means the Shanghai-based company will lose out in the popular and profitable hybrid segment, which is outpacing pure-play EVs.Nio also stands out with its battery-swapping service, which it says can change a dead battery for a fully charged one in three minutes, beating the long charge times of other EVs. However, the battery-swapping stations are expensive to build and Nio’s R&D costs reached 3.3 billion yuan in the third quarter, up 9.2% from a year earlier.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":7,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":197142526955648,"gmtCreate":1689170884508,"gmtModify":1689170887590,"author":{"id":"3569189138119123","authorId":"3569189138119123","name":"Brrnie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/535df402960cd7d1f41b24d9f5d687b7","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3569189138119123","authorIdStr":"3569189138119123"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/DIDIY\">$DiDi Global Inc.(DIDIY)$ </a>hope the IPO coming soon ","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/DIDIY\">$DiDi Global Inc.(DIDIY)$ </a>hope the IPO coming soon ","text":"$DiDi Global Inc.(DIDIY)$ hope the IPO coming 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Scam stock ","listText":"Same story for three years. Scam stock ","text":"Same story for three years. Scam stock","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/373017292001288","repostId":"2484942498","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2484942498","pubTimestamp":1732117800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2484942498?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-20 23:50","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba: Major Declines Create Buying Opportunity","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2484942498","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"we entered into long-term collaborations with industry peers to broaden payment and logistics services on Taobao and Tmall platforms, which we expect will accelerate our overall growth. Growth in our Cloud business accelerated from prior qua","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>I am upgrading Alibaba to a "strong buy" due to stable quarterly earnings figures and Chinese government stimulus measures aimed at boosting economic growth.</p></li><li><p>Alibaba's net income surged 58% annually, driven by equity investments, while cloud segment revenues grew 7%, showing strength in AI and cloud services.</p></li><li><p>Despite mixed earnings, Alibaba's valuation metrics, particularly price-book ratio, indicate it remains attractively valued compared to industry peers.</p></li><li><p>Recent price declines suggest limited downside, with support likely near $81.60, making BABA a compelling long-term growth investment.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bb459413c0d6682ec811f5128f1e7365\" alt=\"Robert Way\" title=\"Robert Way\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Robert Way</span></p><p>When I last covered Alibaba Group (NYSE:BABA) on October 12th, 2024 with my article “Alibaba: Buy The Pullback”, the stock was in the process of breaking out of a prolonged trading range that had been in place since January 2022. Broadly speaking, my article thesis revolved around the idea that BABA stock was currently undervalued in relation to its industry peer grouping. Since then, the stock has been influenced by significant updates that have fundamentally changed the outlook. As a result, I will be raising my outlook for this stock to a “strong buy” rating, with the expectation that BABA shares can still make sizable moves upward before the end of this year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1a883c450ecf934d93edd5187e27678e\" alt=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" title=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"303\"/><span>Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)</span></p><p>In addition to posting surprising quarterly earnings figures, the stock has also been impacted by stimulus measures that have been enacted by the Chinese government, which include a 1.4 trillion yuan plan that will be carried out over the next five years and is designed to energize stagnating growth rates in China and make improvements within the country’s dramatically weakened real estate markets. For the quarter ending in September, Alibaba posted somewhat mixed results with adjusted earnings of $2.08 per share and this figure was a slight beat of 1.62% relative to consensus estimates. However, Alibaba’s quarterly revenue figure missed consensus estimate by -1.23% (coming in at $32.7 billion). Despite missing market expectations, Alibaba’s revenue figure actually indicates annualized gains of 5%, while the quarterly EPS figure points to annualized declines of -4% for the period.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1a90a7c6a5d8a31381a043bc6345d078\" alt=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" title=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"291\"/><span>Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)</span></p><p>Overall, the quarterly figures that stand out the most in the report can be found in Alibaba’s net income, which came in at $6.07 billion and surpassed consensus expectations by an incredible amount (69.96%). Ultimately, these figures indicate annualized growth rates of 58% and were driven primarily by strength in Alibaba’s equity investments. In discussing these quarterly performances, Alibaba CEO Eddie Wu explained:</p><blockquote><p>This quarter… we entered into long-term collaborations with industry peers to broaden payment and logistics services on Taobao and Tmall platforms, which we expect will accelerate our overall growth. Growth in our Cloud business accelerated from prior quarters, with revenues from public cloud products growing in double digits and AI-related product revenue delivering triple-digit growth. We are more confident in our core businesses than ever and will continue to invest in supporting long-term growth. Our other businesses continued to improve their operating efficiency, with most of them continuing to increase their profitability or reduce losses.</p></blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/dc272ce15c61d1cd21706073a67cb499\" alt=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" title=\"Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"506\"/><span>Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)</span></p><p>One more remarkable aspect of Alibaba’s most recent earnings report can be found in the quarterly performances within the cloud segment, where revenues came in at nearly $4.1 billion and indicated annualized growth rates of 7%. Fortunately, this performance marked a minor increase from the 6% annualized gains posted during the prior quarter, and this shows that Alibaba’s plans to fortify its cloud infrastructure and gain market share in both artificial intelligence and cloud services. In large part, these efforts have been hindered by the Chinese government's efforts to clamp down on leading technology companies, in moves that reached heights in 2022. In the periods that followed, Alibaba has had to make significant changes in leadership roles in several areas and engage in strategic moves to promote growth through focused competition with Chinese rivals as a way of navigating through rising challenges within the domestic economic framework.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5ebb57e1f15951b361378f0d38c63c8d\" alt=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)\" title=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/><span>Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)</span></p><p>Generalized weaknesses in the Chinese economy with respect to e-commerce and consumer spending on China’s mainland have created situations where several retailers in the region have recently reported lackluster quarterly earnings results. One other example is JD.com, Inc. (JD) and recent declines in share prices have sent shares of the stock to a lower forward price-earnings ratio of 8.737x. Of course, this is firmly below Alibaba’s current forward price-earnings ratio (which now stands at 10.54x). Clearly, these weaker valuations have become a trend within the industry because roughly similar metrics can be seen in PDD Holdings, Inc. (PDD), which is currently trading with a forward price-earnings multiple of 9.781x. Interestingly, we can compare this to a U.S. e-commerce retailer like Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), which trades with a much higher forward price-earnings ratio of 39.55x. But it should also be noted that there are still similar North American companies within the same competing industry peer that are trading at much lower valuations. Two of my favorite options with lower current valuations would be <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EBAY\">eBay</a> Inc. (EBAY) at 12.7x and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ETSY\">Etsy, Inc.</a> (ETSY) at 11.08x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/33ddb59748bfc56671e4b61296e56685\" alt=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)\" title=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/><span>Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)</span></p><p>If we change the valuation metric and use the forward price-sales ratio, Alibaba starts to look more favorable within this industry peer grouping (at 1.507x) because PinDuoDuo is trading at nearly twice the valuation (at 2.813x). Conversely, JD.com is still much cheaper (at 0.325x) but the North American stocks are significantly more expensive, with Amazon now seen with a forward price-sales ratio of 3.332x. Somewhat similar metrics for eBay can be seen at 2.863x, but Etsy is currently trading at much lower valuations at 1.981x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e4280be8f748460aae97a76e5d463d66\" alt=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)\" title=\"Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/><span>Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)</span></p><p>In Alibaba’s case, price-book ratios arguably offer the most favorable valuation metric because the company is currently trading at just 1.642x book value. In this case, both JD.com (at 1.687x) and PinDuoDuo (which is much higher, at 4.531x) are trading at more expensive valuations at the moment. North American counterparts are currently looking far less attractive using this valuation basis, as Amazon is trading with an elevated price-book ratio of 8.199x, while eBay is seen at 5.432x and Etsy trades massively higher (with a jaw-dropping price-book valuation of 22.11x). On balance, I think this broader valuation metric gives us the best sense of Alibaba’s current position relative to key competitors within the industry, and I think these trends show us that Alibaba remains attractively valued at the moment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/faf3e8777bd496182683dce1c72ffb47\" alt=\"Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)\" title=\"Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"568\"/><span>Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)</span></p><p>In addition to potential overvaluation risks that can be seen when analyzing Alibaba on the comparative basis of its forward price-earnings metrics, recent price moves in shares of BABA show possible warning signals for long trades taken near current levels. Specifically, the stock has recently fallen through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement of the bullish rally from the June 24th, 2024 lows of $71.80 to the October 7th, 2024 highs of $117.82 (which is located above $89.30). Additionally, the stock’s 200-period exponential moving average on the 4-hour timeframe was also broken during this recent price decline, and this suggests that BABA might still fall further before finding support. To the downside, I will next be watching for a possible test of the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement of the aforementioned price move (which currently rests below $81.60). Fortunately, stochastic indicator readings are currently holding at oversold levels, and this ultimately suggests that share prices are likely to start finding support relatively soon. As a result, I think that further declines might be limited, and I believe that the stock’s attractive relative price-book valuations are supported by the longer-term growth prospects that continue to develop within Alibaba’s recent quarterly earnings reports. For these reasons, I will continue holding my long position and I expect to see the stock rally to new near-term highs before the end of the year.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba: Major Declines Create Buying Opportunity</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Broadly speaking, my article thesis revolved around the idea that BABA stock was currently undervalued in relation to its industry peer grouping. Since then, the stock has been influenced by significant updates that have fundamentally changed the outlook. As a result, I will be raising my outlook for this stock to a “strong buy” rating, with the expectation that BABA shares can still make sizable moves upward before the end of this year.Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)In addition to posting surprising quarterly earnings figures, the stock has also been impacted by stimulus measures that have been enacted by the Chinese government, which include a 1.4 trillion yuan plan that will be carried out over the next five years and is designed to energize stagnating growth rates in China and make improvements within the country’s dramatically weakened real estate markets. For the quarter ending in September, Alibaba posted somewhat mixed results with adjusted earnings of $2.08 per share and this figure was a slight beat of 1.62% relative to consensus estimates. However, Alibaba’s quarterly revenue figure missed consensus estimate by -1.23% (coming in at $32.7 billion). Despite missing market expectations, Alibaba’s revenue figure actually indicates annualized gains of 5%, while the quarterly EPS figure points to annualized declines of -4% for the period.Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)Overall, the quarterly figures that stand out the most in the report can be found in Alibaba’s net income, which came in at $6.07 billion and surpassed consensus expectations by an incredible amount (69.96%). Ultimately, these figures indicate annualized growth rates of 58% and were driven primarily by strength in Alibaba’s equity investments. In discussing these quarterly performances, Alibaba CEO Eddie Wu explained:This quarter… we entered into long-term collaborations with industry peers to broaden payment and logistics services on Taobao and Tmall platforms, which we expect will accelerate our overall growth. Growth in our Cloud business accelerated from prior quarters, with revenues from public cloud products growing in double digits and AI-related product revenue delivering triple-digit growth. We are more confident in our core businesses than ever and will continue to invest in supporting long-term growth. Our other businesses continued to improve their operating efficiency, with most of them continuing to increase their profitability or reduce losses.Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Figures (Alibaba: Quarterly Earnings Presentation)One more remarkable aspect of Alibaba’s most recent earnings report can be found in the quarterly performances within the cloud segment, where revenues came in at nearly $4.1 billion and indicated annualized growth rates of 7%. Fortunately, this performance marked a minor increase from the 6% annualized gains posted during the prior quarter, and this shows that Alibaba’s plans to fortify its cloud infrastructure and gain market share in both artificial intelligence and cloud services. In large part, these efforts have been hindered by the Chinese government's efforts to clamp down on leading technology companies, in moves that reached heights in 2022. In the periods that followed, Alibaba has had to make significant changes in leadership roles in several areas and engage in strategic moves to promote growth through focused competition with Chinese rivals as a way of navigating through rising challenges within the domestic economic framework.Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations (YCharts)Generalized weaknesses in the Chinese economy with respect to e-commerce and consumer spending on China’s mainland have created situations where several retailers in the region have recently reported lackluster quarterly earnings results. One other example is JD.com, Inc. (JD) and recent declines in share prices have sent shares of the stock to a lower forward price-earnings ratio of 8.737x. Of course, this is firmly below Alibaba’s current forward price-earnings ratio (which now stands at 10.54x). Clearly, these weaker valuations have become a trend within the industry because roughly similar metrics can be seen in PDD Holdings, Inc. (PDD), which is currently trading with a forward price-earnings multiple of 9.781x. Interestingly, we can compare this to a U.S. e-commerce retailer like Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), which trades with a much higher forward price-earnings ratio of 39.55x. But it should also be noted that there are still similar North American companies within the same competing industry peer that are trading at much lower valuations. Two of my favorite options with lower current valuations would be eBay Inc. (EBAY) at 12.7x and Etsy, Inc. (ETSY) at 11.08x.Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations (YCharts)If we change the valuation metric and use the forward price-sales ratio, Alibaba starts to look more favorable within this industry peer grouping (at 1.507x) because PinDuoDuo is trading at nearly twice the valuation (at 2.813x). Conversely, JD.com is still much cheaper (at 0.325x) but the North American stocks are significantly more expensive, with Amazon now seen with a forward price-sales ratio of 3.332x. Somewhat similar metrics for eBay can be seen at 2.863x, but Etsy is currently trading at much lower valuations at 1.981x.Alibaba: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations (YCharts)In Alibaba’s case, price-book ratios arguably offer the most favorable valuation metric because the company is currently trading at just 1.642x book value. In this case, both JD.com (at 1.687x) and PinDuoDuo (which is much higher, at 4.531x) are trading at more expensive valuations at the moment. North American counterparts are currently looking far less attractive using this valuation basis, as Amazon is trading with an elevated price-book ratio of 8.199x, while eBay is seen at 5.432x and Etsy trades massively higher (with a jaw-dropping price-book valuation of 22.11x). On balance, I think this broader valuation metric gives us the best sense of Alibaba’s current position relative to key competitors within the industry, and I think these trends show us that Alibaba remains attractively valued at the moment.Alibaba: Major Declines & Key Price Levels (Income Generator via TradingView)In addition to potential overvaluation risks that can be seen when analyzing Alibaba on the comparative basis of its forward price-earnings metrics, recent price moves in shares of BABA show possible warning signals for long trades taken near current levels. Specifically, the stock has recently fallen through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement of the bullish rally from the June 24th, 2024 lows of $71.80 to the October 7th, 2024 highs of $117.82 (which is located above $89.30). Additionally, the stock’s 200-period exponential moving average on the 4-hour timeframe was also broken during this recent price decline, and this suggests that BABA might still fall further before finding support. To the downside, I will next be watching for a possible test of the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement of the aforementioned price move (which currently rests below $81.60). Fortunately, stochastic indicator readings are currently holding at oversold levels, and this ultimately suggests that share prices are likely to start finding support relatively soon. As a result, I think that further declines might be limited, and I believe that the stock’s attractive relative price-book valuations are supported by the longer-term growth prospects that continue to develop within Alibaba’s recent quarterly earnings reports. For these reasons, I will continue holding my long position and I expect to see the stock rally to new near-term highs before the end of the year.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":294570533331016,"gmtCreate":1712934972087,"gmtModify":1712936410355,"author":{"id":"3569189138119123","authorId":"3569189138119123","name":"Brrnie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/535df402960cd7d1f41b24d9f5d687b7","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3569189138119123","authorIdStr":"3569189138119123"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NIO\">$NIO Inc.(NIO)$ </a> biggest scammer is li. Should be kicked out to save the company. Money thrown into a pitfire ","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NIO\">$NIO Inc.(NIO)$ </a> biggest scammer is li. Should be kicked out to save the company. 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