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2023-11-20

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

2022-05-11

Nope, much higher

Tesla - Fair Value Of $825

2022-05-09

Likely to, given how their SPAC investments performed over Q1. But if that's the only issue, it's the perfect buying opportunity💪🏻💪🏻

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Don't be an id10t

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Only up from here

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He's not being serious... what has Coca Cola gotta do with a better future??? cmon hahaha

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2022-04-28

How about from 2010? 😂😂😂

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Wait till he really goes at the SEC Hahaha

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Dun get me wrong, it's just a stupid move

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2022-04-21

$GoPro(GPRO)$Freebie broke $9

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The end is near for any auto company except for TSLA. Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)

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How not to do fundamental analysis[LOL] [LOL] [LOL] Blinded by SBC, and where's snowflake's multiple?? HAHAHA

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2022-04-20

$GoPro(GPRO)$Thanks tiger

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2022-04-17

$GoPro(GPRO)$Freebie from tiger👍👍

2022-04-16

$Grab Holdings(GRAB)$Buy?

2022-04-16

Let's geddit!!

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Dun mess with Elon[Surprised] [Surprised]

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(NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has tra","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b> (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has traded well above 100 times sales in the past, today it trades at nearly 100 times earnings. Nobody doubts that Tesla has succeeded in becoming profitable, but still, some investors think the stock is overpriced. Tesla does trade at high multiples, but its growth is also very strong. In this article, I try to settle the Tesla valuation question with a discounted cash flow (“DCF”) model. Ultimately I arrive at a $825 valuation, giving it slight upside to today’s price. However, I rate the stock a hold rather than a buy, due to concerns about its accounting.</p><h2>Competitive Landscape</h2><p>Before getting into my analysis of Tesla’s fair value, I have to take a look at the company’s competitive position. In a few paragraphs, I will make a revenue growth estimate for Tesla that is above EV industry averages. A company needs a solid competitive position in order to out-grow its industry, so we need to establish Tesla does have a superior market position.</p><p>Some of the companies Tesla competes with include:</p><ul><li><p><b>Volkswagen</b> (OTCPK:VWAGY) - Second place in deliveries after Tesla, with 452,000 BEVs sold in 2021.</p></li><li><p><b>BYD Motors</b> (OTCPK:BYDDF) - Third place after Volkswagen, with 320,000 BEVs sold in 2021 (593,000 EVs total if you include hybrids).</p></li><li><p><b>NIO</b> (NIO) and <b>Lucid Motors</b> (LCID) - very small players but noteworthy for their “head to head” competition with Tesla. As luxury EV makers, they are playing the exact same game that Tesla is; VW and BYD ship different kinds of vehicles.</p></li></ul><p>Tesla is well ahead of the competition in pure-EV sedans. With 932,000 cars delivered in 2022, it sold more than double what VW did. Tesla’s dominance of the EV industry is lesser if you include trucks, trains and buses. By that standard, BYD, with 593,000 deliveries, is not too far behind Tesla.</p><p>Can Tesla’s edge in electric cars continue?</p><p>Right out of the gate, Tesla has an enormous competitive edge over its competitors in the form of free advertising. Elon Musk has <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> of the world’s biggest <b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a></b> (TWTR) accounts, and he is in the process of “locking in” that advantage by buying Twitter. With 80 million Twitter followers, Musk can reach a lot of people without having to spend a penny on advertising. He uses this advantage to the fullest, getting free publicity through Tweets, TED talks and other unconventional channels. Generating “organic” publicity this way tends to produce superior margins, as it reduces the need for a marketing budget.</p><p>It isn&#39;t easy to explain exactly how valuable Tesla&#39;s ability to market itself without paying money for advertising is, but a few points are worth keeping in mind:</p><ul><li>Tesla was named 2021&#39;s fastest growing brand by Visual Capitalist.</li><li>Tesla was the world&#39;s fastest growing automaker in 2020.</li><li>The company moved from 6th place to 3rd place in the list of world&#39;s most valuable automotive brands in 2022.</li></ul><p>... And all of this was achieved with no marketing budget to speak of! By contrast, <b>Ford </b>(F) spent $468 on marketing per each car sold in 2021.</p><p>The advantage this provides Tesla is enormous. First of all, it empowers the company to spend way more money on R&amp;D compared to the competition: at $2,984 per car sold, Tesla invests much more in research than the average car company. That can drive innovation over time.</p><p>Second, this edge provides the potential for superior earnings growth. With lower costs come higher profits, and costs compound just like stock prices do. Below, you will see a model of two nearly identical companies, A and B, growing revenue by 30% and operating costs by 20%. The only difference is that company B has a marketing budget that starts at 10% of sales and grows by 40% per year. In the table below, you will see how much more profit company A has by the end of five years.</p><table><tbody><tr><td></td><td>Year 1</td><td>Year 2</td><td>Year 3</td><td>Year 4</td><td>Year 5</td></tr><tr><td>Company A revenue</td><td>1,000</td><td>1,300</td><td>1690</td><td>2197</td><td>2856</td></tr><tr><td>Company A costs</td><td>500</td><td>600</td><td>720</td><td>864</td><td>1036.8</td></tr><tr><td>Company A profit</td><td>500</td><td>700</td><td>970</td><td>1333</td><td><b>1820</b></td></tr><tr><td>Company B revenue</td><td>1,000</td><td>1,300</td><td>1690</td><td>2197</td><td>2856</td></tr><tr><td>Company B costs</td><td>500</td><td>600</td><td>720</td><td>864</td><td>1036.8</td></tr><tr><td>Company B marketing</td><td>100</td><td>140</td><td>196</td><td>274.4</td><td>384</td></tr><tr><td>Company B profit</td><td>400</td><td>560</td><td>774</td><td>1058.6</td><td><b>1436</b></td></tr></tbody></table><p>As you can see, company A ends up at $1,820 in profit after five years, while company B ends up at $1,612. Company A has a 29.48% CAGR growth rate in profit, while company B grows noticeably slower, at 29.12%. And, of course, Company A&#39;s profit is much higher at the end of the period.</p><h2>Financials</h2><p>Before getting into my DCF model for Tesla, I have to explore its financials. It’s not enough to simply project a company’s earnings growth trend into the future, we need to look at the components that make up earnings to really gauge where profits are headed. In addition, we need to factor in variables that haven’t been reported yet but are known to be important, such as rising costs of raw materials.</p><p>With that in mind, I’ve put together a table with Tesla’s most important earnings-related metrics for the last five years.</p><table><colgroup></colgroup><tbody><tr><td></td><td><p>2017</p></td><td><p>2018</p></td><td><p>2019</p></td><td><p>2020</p></td><td><p>2021</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Revenue</p></td><td><p>$11.75B</p></td><td><p>$21.46B</p></td><td><p>$24.57B</p></td><td><p>$31.53B</p></td><td><p>$53.8B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Cost of sales</p></td><td><p>$9.53B</p></td><td><p>$17.42B</p></td><td><p>$20.51B</p></td><td><p>$18.9B</p></td><td><p>$40.2B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Operating expenses</p></td><td><p>$3.855B</p></td><td><p>$4.430B</p></td><td><p>$4.138B</p></td><td><p>$4.636B</p></td><td><p>$7B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Total costs</p></td><td><p>$13.385B</p></td><td><p>$21.85B</p></td><td><p>$24.64B</p></td><td><p>$23.56B</p></td><td><p>$47.2B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Adjusted EPS</p></td><td><p>$-1.80</p></td><td><p>$-0.27</p></td><td><p>$0.03</p></td><td><p>$2.24</p></td><td><p>$6.78</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Based on the numbers above, we get growth rates of:</p><ul><li><p>36% CAGR in revenue.</p></li><li><p>28% CAGR in costs.</p></li></ul><p>If historical trends were to continue into the future, we would expect growing profits. In my estimate, Tesla’s profits will in fact grow. However, we can’t just project past growth into the future. We need to know what factors are going to drive growth in revenue and costs going forward.</p><p>Revenue is hard to predict because it depends on many factors: demand, supply chains, availability of raw materials and more. We could start from what industry experts are expecting for the market: Facts and Factors expects 24.5% CAGR growth in EVs to 2027. We also know that $53 billion is an enormous amount of revenue, which means that future revenue growth is unlikely to match that observed in the past. We would expect some deceleration. On the other hand, Tesla has advantages over other EV companies, such as brand recognition, a network of charging stations, and free social media advertising. So, we have reasons to expect deceleration, as well as reasons to think Tesla will outperform the industry. So, I’ll estimate Tesla’s future revenue growth at 30% CAGR–above the industry average but slower than Tesla in the past.</p><p>Estimating Tesla’s costs is a bit easier. We know that car manufacturing is a high variable cost business and that costs increase with each car. So costs will correlate with revenue somewhat. Additionally we know that Tesla’s suppliers are charging it higher prices this year. So, I’ll estimate that total costs grow at 29% CAGR–essentially I’m expecting the past cost trend to continue but nudging it up 100 basis points to reflect this year’s supplier price hikes.</p><p>The only step left before doing our earnings forecast is to convert the raw ingredients into per share amounts. In its most recent quarter, Tesla had 1.157 billion shares outstanding, so:</p><ul><li><p>The $53.8 billion in revenue turns into $46.49 per share.</p></li><li><p>The $47.2 billion in costs turns into $40.79 per share.</p></li></ul><p>Starting with these amounts for the base year, we get (on a per share basis):</p><table><colgroup></colgroup><tbody><tr><td></td><td><p>base</p></td><td><p>2022</p></td><td><p>2023</p></td><td><p>2024</p></td><td><p>2025</p></td><td><p>2026</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>REV</p></td><td><p>$46.49</p></td><td><p>$60.43</p></td><td><p>$78.56</p></td><td><p>$102.13</p></td><td><p>$132.78</p></td><td><p>$172.61</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>COST</p></td><td><p>$40.79</p></td><td><p>$52.61</p></td><td><p>$67.87</p></td><td><p>$87.56</p></td><td><p>$112.95</p></td><td><p>$145</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>EBIT</p></td><td><p>$5.7</p></td><td><p>$7.82</p></td><td><p>$10.69</p></td><td><p>$14.57</p></td><td><p>$19.83</p></td><td><p>$27.61</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Based on these forecasts, we can do a simple DCF model on five years&#39; worth of Tesla&#39;s earnings:</p><table><colgroup></colgroup><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td><p>TOTAL</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Cash flows</p></td><td><p>$7.82</p></td><td><p>$10.69</p></td><td><p>$14.57</p></td><td><p>$19.83</p></td><td><p>$27.61</p></td><td><p>N/A</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>(1+r)^n</p></td><td><p>1.083</p></td><td><p>1.172</p></td><td><p>1.27</p></td><td><p>1.375</p></td><td><p>1.489</p></td><td><p>N/A</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Discounted CF</p></td><td><p>$7.22</p></td><td><p>$9.12</p></td><td><p>$11.47</p></td><td><p>$14.42</p></td><td><p>$24.03</p></td><td><p>$66.26</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>So, our present value for 5 years’ worth of cash flows/EBIT is $66.26 per share. That’s not bad. The only step left is to find a terminal value for Tesla. I’ve assumed a discount rate of 8.3% for the purposes of this analysis. If Tesla’s earnings growth levels off to 4.5% after 5 years, then we get a terminal value of $759. So, we have approximately $66 in discounted cash flows, and a terminal value of $759. That leaves us with a fair value of $825.</p><h2>Why Tesla Eludes an Easy Valuation</h2><p>As I’ve showed, a basic DCF valuation would say that Tesla is worth $825–slightly more than it’s worth now. This valuation justifies a rating ranging from &#34;hold&#34; to a slight buy. That’s what we get with some reasonably conservative estimates of future growth. But before you buy TSLA based on this model, you need to consider some factors that could cause the stock to behave differently than expected.</p><p>One of these is accounting. Many analysts think that Tesla is aggressively recognizing and potentially overstating its revenue. Without fully endorsing this view, I can give plausible reasons someone would believe it.</p><p>For example, in fiscal 2021, Tesla reported $5.7 billion in inventory on hand. That was an increase of $1.7 billion from the same quarter a year before. The rate of growth in inventory accelerated as well: in the prior two years, inventory only grew in the hundreds of millions of dollars.</p><p>It could be that Tesla simply expects a lot more sales in 2022 and is holding inventory for that reason. However, some argue that Tesla simply isn’t selling as many cars as it claims it is. It is well known that Tesla collects cash for transactions that aren’t “sales.” We know, for example, that you can pre-order a Cybertruck, even though the truck isn’t being delivered. Under GAAP, you’re not supposed to count a payment as “revenue” until the product in question is delivered.</p><p>Could Tesla be bundling Cybertruck deposits with revenue to juice its sales numbers? Ultimately, we don’t know. Over the years, analysts have voiced many concerns with Tesla’s accounting. In addition to the one just mentioned, there have also been concerns about Tesla capitalizing inventory instead of expensing it, in order to boost its margins. If all of these things are going on, then Tesla’s revenue and profit are both being overstated. I do not claim that they are: there are other explanations for the peculiarities I noticed above. But, Tesla’s peculiar accounting is a risk factor to keep in mind.</p><h2>The Bottom Line</h2><p>The bottom line on Tesla is this:</p><p>If we can indeed take its financial statements at face value, then its stock is probably worth at least $800. As my discounted cash flow valuation shows, you get to $825 just by assuming five years of strong growth followed by an eternity of sluggish growth. It’s possible that Tesla will not meet the growth figures I estimated for the five-year period, but on the flipside, it could easily continue growing for much more than five years. So, TSLA’s current stock price is not totally unreasonable – assuming its accounting can be trusted.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla - Fair Value Of $825</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla - Fair Value Of $825\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-11 11:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4509786-tesla-fair-value-of-825><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has traded well above 100 times sales in the past, today it trades at nearly 100 times earnings. Nobody ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4509786-tesla-fair-value-of-825\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4509786-tesla-fair-value-of-825","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2234623829","content_text":"Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has traded well above 100 times sales in the past, today it trades at nearly 100 times earnings. Nobody doubts that Tesla has succeeded in becoming profitable, but still, some investors think the stock is overpriced. Tesla does trade at high multiples, but its growth is also very strong. In this article, I try to settle the Tesla valuation question with a discounted cash flow (“DCF”) model. Ultimately I arrive at a $825 valuation, giving it slight upside to today’s price. However, I rate the stock a hold rather than a buy, due to concerns about its accounting.Competitive LandscapeBefore getting into my analysis of Tesla’s fair value, I have to take a look at the company’s competitive position. In a few paragraphs, I will make a revenue growth estimate for Tesla that is above EV industry averages. A company needs a solid competitive position in order to out-grow its industry, so we need to establish Tesla does have a superior market position.Some of the companies Tesla competes with include:Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY) - Second place in deliveries after Tesla, with 452,000 BEVs sold in 2021.BYD Motors (OTCPK:BYDDF) - Third place after Volkswagen, with 320,000 BEVs sold in 2021 (593,000 EVs total if you include hybrids).NIO (NIO) and Lucid Motors (LCID) - very small players but noteworthy for their “head to head” competition with Tesla. As luxury EV makers, they are playing the exact same game that Tesla is; VW and BYD ship different kinds of vehicles.Tesla is well ahead of the competition in pure-EV sedans. With 932,000 cars delivered in 2022, it sold more than double what VW did. Tesla’s dominance of the EV industry is lesser if you include trucks, trains and buses. By that standard, BYD, with 593,000 deliveries, is not too far behind Tesla.Can Tesla’s edge in electric cars continue?Right out of the gate, Tesla has an enormous competitive edge over its competitors in the form of free advertising. Elon Musk has one of the world’s biggest Twitter (TWTR) accounts, and he is in the process of “locking in” that advantage by buying Twitter. With 80 million Twitter followers, Musk can reach a lot of people without having to spend a penny on advertising. He uses this advantage to the fullest, getting free publicity through Tweets, TED talks and other unconventional channels. Generating “organic” publicity this way tends to produce superior margins, as it reduces the need for a marketing budget.It isn't easy to explain exactly how valuable Tesla's ability to market itself without paying money for advertising is, but a few points are worth keeping in mind:Tesla was named 2021's fastest growing brand by Visual Capitalist.Tesla was the world's fastest growing automaker in 2020.The company moved from 6th place to 3rd place in the list of world's most valuable automotive brands in 2022.... And all of this was achieved with no marketing budget to speak of! By contrast, Ford (F) spent $468 on marketing per each car sold in 2021.The advantage this provides Tesla is enormous. First of all, it empowers the company to spend way more money on R&D compared to the competition: at $2,984 per car sold, Tesla invests much more in research than the average car company. That can drive innovation over time.Second, this edge provides the potential for superior earnings growth. With lower costs come higher profits, and costs compound just like stock prices do. Below, you will see a model of two nearly identical companies, A and B, growing revenue by 30% and operating costs by 20%. The only difference is that company B has a marketing budget that starts at 10% of sales and grows by 40% per year. In the table below, you will see how much more profit company A has by the end of five years.Year 1Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 5Company A revenue1,0001,300169021972856Company A costs5006007208641036.8Company A profit50070097013331820Company B revenue1,0001,300169021972856Company B costs5006007208641036.8Company B marketing100140196274.4384Company B profit4005607741058.61436As you can see, company A ends up at $1,820 in profit after five years, while company B ends up at $1,612. Company A has a 29.48% CAGR growth rate in profit, while company B grows noticeably slower, at 29.12%. And, of course, Company A's profit is much higher at the end of the period.FinancialsBefore getting into my DCF model for Tesla, I have to explore its financials. It’s not enough to simply project a company’s earnings growth trend into the future, we need to look at the components that make up earnings to really gauge where profits are headed. In addition, we need to factor in variables that haven’t been reported yet but are known to be important, such as rising costs of raw materials.With that in mind, I’ve put together a table with Tesla’s most important earnings-related metrics for the last five years.20172018201920202021Revenue$11.75B$21.46B$24.57B$31.53B$53.8BCost of sales$9.53B$17.42B$20.51B$18.9B$40.2BOperating expenses$3.855B$4.430B$4.138B$4.636B$7BTotal costs$13.385B$21.85B$24.64B$23.56B$47.2BAdjusted EPS$-1.80$-0.27$0.03$2.24$6.78Based on the numbers above, we get growth rates of:36% CAGR in revenue.28% CAGR in costs.If historical trends were to continue into the future, we would expect growing profits. In my estimate, Tesla’s profits will in fact grow. However, we can’t just project past growth into the future. We need to know what factors are going to drive growth in revenue and costs going forward.Revenue is hard to predict because it depends on many factors: demand, supply chains, availability of raw materials and more. We could start from what industry experts are expecting for the market: Facts and Factors expects 24.5% CAGR growth in EVs to 2027. We also know that $53 billion is an enormous amount of revenue, which means that future revenue growth is unlikely to match that observed in the past. We would expect some deceleration. On the other hand, Tesla has advantages over other EV companies, such as brand recognition, a network of charging stations, and free social media advertising. So, we have reasons to expect deceleration, as well as reasons to think Tesla will outperform the industry. So, I’ll estimate Tesla’s future revenue growth at 30% CAGR–above the industry average but slower than Tesla in the past.Estimating Tesla’s costs is a bit easier. We know that car manufacturing is a high variable cost business and that costs increase with each car. So costs will correlate with revenue somewhat. Additionally we know that Tesla’s suppliers are charging it higher prices this year. So, I’ll estimate that total costs grow at 29% CAGR–essentially I’m expecting the past cost trend to continue but nudging it up 100 basis points to reflect this year’s supplier price hikes.The only step left before doing our earnings forecast is to convert the raw ingredients into per share amounts. In its most recent quarter, Tesla had 1.157 billion shares outstanding, so:The $53.8 billion in revenue turns into $46.49 per share.The $47.2 billion in costs turns into $40.79 per share.Starting with these amounts for the base year, we get (on a per share basis):base20222023202420252026REV$46.49$60.43$78.56$102.13$132.78$172.61COST$40.79$52.61$67.87$87.56$112.95$145EBIT$5.7$7.82$10.69$14.57$19.83$27.61Based on these forecasts, we can do a simple DCF model on five years' worth of Tesla's earnings:TOTALCash flows$7.82$10.69$14.57$19.83$27.61N/A(1+r)^n1.0831.1721.271.3751.489N/ADiscounted CF$7.22$9.12$11.47$14.42$24.03$66.26So, our present value for 5 years’ worth of cash flows/EBIT is $66.26 per share. That’s not bad. The only step left is to find a terminal value for Tesla. I’ve assumed a discount rate of 8.3% for the purposes of this analysis. If Tesla’s earnings growth levels off to 4.5% after 5 years, then we get a terminal value of $759. So, we have approximately $66 in discounted cash flows, and a terminal value of $759. That leaves us with a fair value of $825.Why Tesla Eludes an Easy ValuationAs I’ve showed, a basic DCF valuation would say that Tesla is worth $825–slightly more than it’s worth now. This valuation justifies a rating ranging from \"hold\" to a slight buy. That’s what we get with some reasonably conservative estimates of future growth. But before you buy TSLA based on this model, you need to consider some factors that could cause the stock to behave differently than expected.One of these is accounting. Many analysts think that Tesla is aggressively recognizing and potentially overstating its revenue. Without fully endorsing this view, I can give plausible reasons someone would believe it.For example, in fiscal 2021, Tesla reported $5.7 billion in inventory on hand. That was an increase of $1.7 billion from the same quarter a year before. The rate of growth in inventory accelerated as well: in the prior two years, inventory only grew in the hundreds of millions of dollars.It could be that Tesla simply expects a lot more sales in 2022 and is holding inventory for that reason. However, some argue that Tesla simply isn’t selling as many cars as it claims it is. It is well known that Tesla collects cash for transactions that aren’t “sales.” We know, for example, that you can pre-order a Cybertruck, even though the truck isn’t being delivered. Under GAAP, you’re not supposed to count a payment as “revenue” until the product in question is delivered.Could Tesla be bundling Cybertruck deposits with revenue to juice its sales numbers? Ultimately, we don’t know. Over the years, analysts have voiced many concerns with Tesla’s accounting. In addition to the one just mentioned, there have also been concerns about Tesla capitalizing inventory instead of expensing it, in order to boost its margins. If all of these things are going on, then Tesla’s revenue and profit are both being overstated. I do not claim that they are: there are other explanations for the peculiarities I noticed above. But, Tesla’s peculiar accounting is a risk factor to keep in mind.The Bottom LineThe bottom line on Tesla is this:If we can indeed take its financial statements at face value, then its stock is probably worth at least $800. As my discounted cash flow valuation shows, you get to $825 just by assuming five years of strong growth followed by an eternity of sluggish growth. It’s possible that Tesla will not meet the growth figures I estimated for the five-year period, but on the flipside, it could easily continue growing for much more than five years. 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For Q1, it expects to generate $443 million, compared to expectations of $439.6 million, with adjusted operating margin of 27%.</p><p>Piper Sandler recently raised its price target on the company, noting it should see growth in its U.S. government business. Palantir &#34;has gained traction with agencies beyond Defense, such as the [Department of Veterans Affairs] and [Department of Energy], which could provide it with ongoing upside&#34; according to the analyst.</p><p>During the latest quarter Palantir (PLTR) won a $5.3M contract from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for expanding its role as a partner in the federal COVID-19 response by supporting key distribution and supply-chain efforts. It also signed a collaboration with Jacobs (J) to introduce and commercialize a joint data analytics solution for water infrastructure.</p><p>Palantir signed on IT solutions provider Carahsoft Technology as its U.S. Federal Distributor under a new channel partner program. Earlier in April it bagged an extension and expansion of its work with the CDC &#34;through the outbreak response and disease surveillance solution for the Data Collation and Integration for Public Health Event Response Program.&#34;</p><p>Piper Sandler had started coverage on Palantir in March, noting the Ukraine war could accelerate adoption. RBC also cited the war as a reason for its upgrade, suggesting that it will give a boost to government spending on cybersecurity.</p><p>Morgan Stanley upgraded the company too, but said it is &#34;awaiting more visibility of positive catalysts around a durable government business and yields on recent investments in commercial.&#34;</p><p>SA contributors have been largely bullish on Palantir, with exponential levers driving growth according to one analysis, and impending net income profitability according to another.</p><p>Over the last 1 year, PLTR has beaten EPS estimates 75% of the time and has beaten revenue estimates 100% of the time.</p><p>Over the last 3 months, EPS estimates have seen 0 upward revisions and 4 downward. 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For Q1, it expects to generate $443 million, compared to expectations of $439.6 million, with adjusted operating margin of 27%.Piper Sandler recently raised its price target on the company, noting it should see growth in its U.S. government business. Palantir \"has gained traction with agencies beyond Defense, such as the [Department of Veterans Affairs] and [Department of Energy], which could provide it with ongoing upside\" according to the analyst.During the latest quarter Palantir (PLTR) won a $5.3M contract from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for expanding its role as a partner in the federal COVID-19 response by supporting key distribution and supply-chain efforts. It also signed a collaboration with Jacobs (J) to introduce and commercialize a joint data analytics solution for water infrastructure.Palantir signed on IT solutions provider Carahsoft Technology as its U.S. Federal Distributor under a new channel partner program. Earlier in April it bagged an extension and expansion of its work with the CDC \"through the outbreak response and disease surveillance solution for the Data Collation and Integration for Public Health Event Response Program.\"Piper Sandler had started coverage on Palantir in March, noting the Ukraine war could accelerate adoption. RBC also cited the war as a reason for its upgrade, suggesting that it will give a boost to government spending on cybersecurity.Morgan Stanley upgraded the company too, but said it is \"awaiting more visibility of positive catalysts around a durable government business and yields on recent investments in commercial.\"SA contributors have been largely bullish on Palantir, with exponential levers driving growth according to one analysis, and impending net income profitability according to another.Over the last 1 year, PLTR has beaten EPS estimates 75% of the time and has beaten revenue estimates 100% of the time.Over the last 3 months, EPS estimates have seen 0 upward revisions and 4 downward. 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The debate regarding Tesla, Inc.&#39;s (NASDAQ:TSLA) valuation continues to be a topic of conversation between the bulls and the bears. Oneside argues that TSLA&#39;s financial growth and future prospects, including FSD, insurance, and robotaxis, justify the current $902.12 billion valuations, while others argue that the current financials and cult-like following have led to a massive overvaluation in TSLA&#39;s stock.</p><p>I tip my hat to Elon Musk, as his accomplishments are second to none. When others called him crazy, Mr. Musk chose one of the hardest industries to compete in, started TSLA from the ground up, went to battle against the auto manufacturers, and succeeded. TSLA is one of the rare success stories that has truly shaped an industry, and the barriers of entry that were overcome are astonishing. TSLA didn&#39;t have the capital, manufacturing, credibility, or the infrastructure that its competitors did, yet they found a way to succeed. If the odds weren&#39;t enough which TSLA faced, they accomplished their goals without a combustible engine and pioneered an entirely new sector within the automotive industry.</p><p>Just because TSLA is a great company, it doesn&#39;t mean TSLA has a great stock, or it isn&#39;t overvalued. I am not bearish on TSLA the company because I believe they still have a long runway of growth ahead of them, but I am bearish on the valuation. Prior to leaving a comment on why I am wrong, please read the article and think about the metrics I am citing; then, I will happily discuss any viewpoints about the analysis.</p><p><b>Tesla Vs. The World In The Automotive Sector</b></p><p>It feels like TSLA vs. the world whenever TSLA is discussed. Discussing who makes a better automobile is a matter of opinion, and everyone is correct because it&#39;s their opinion. If person A thinks TSLA makes the best car and person B thinks Mercedes Benz makes the best car, they are both correct. Debating over this is pointless, so let&#39;s look at the raw numbers.</p><p>TSLA has a larger market cap than the combination ofToyota(TM),Volkswagen(OTCPK:VWAGY),Daimler(OTCPK:DDAIF),BMW(OTCPK:BMWYY),General Motors(GM),Ford(F),Honda(HMC),Ferrari(RACE),Nissan(OTCPK:NSANY),Subaru(OTCPK:FUJHY),Volvo(OTCPK:VOLAF), andMazda(OTCPK:MZDAY). TSLA&#39;s market cap is currently $986.92 billion, while the combination of these 12 companies is $777.41 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ff930d2442bf282c1bd880cca408eb94\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"327\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo</p><p>The P/S ratio is often cited to justify the valuation. The combination of TM, VWAGY, DDAIF, BMWYY, GM, F, HMC, RACE, NSANY, FUJHY, VOLAF, and MZDAY has generated $1.38 trillion in revenue over the TTM, putting their P/S at 0.56, while TSLA has generated $62.19 billion in revenue and has a 15.87 P/S.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9b9661fde232925a758c38fd2e93f36\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>As a combined entity, these 12 companies have generated $118.29 billion in net income, while TSLA has produced $8.4 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d25806eb839eb9ca2b4ef3c24218048c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>TSLA is a great company, but its current valuation has become overly inflated. TSLA&#39;s market cap is $209.52 billion larger than these 12 auto manufacturers, yet the combination of the 12 auto manufacturers generates $1.32 trillion more in revenue and $109.89 billion more in net income.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a1b686de4009ca733ff9651ce0d9fcaf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"348\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>Looking at the market caps, one would assume that TSLA has a dominant majority over its competitors in auto sales within the U.S. According to the2021 data, TSLA sold 2.02% of all vehicles in the U.S. TSLA&#39;s market cap reflects a level of dominance that is non-existent.</p><p>Realistically, TSLA will have a hard time disrupting the sector further due to the price point of their vehicles. The reality is that, unless TSLA can sell a car that rivals a Honda or Toyota, doubling its market share is going to be a daunting task. It&#39;s just math. TSLA doesn&#39;t have a product for the masses, and while it may continue to grow in the luxury segment, the amount of growth that can be achieved is limited due to the pricing power of the consumer.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/442ffe151dd83bc524785857925f9797\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"227\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>www.goodcarbadcar.net</p><p><b>Tesla Isn&#39;t A Technology Company And Shouldn&#39;t Be Valued As One</b></p><p>The valuation rebuttal has always been that TSLA isn&#39;t an automobile company, rather, it&#39;s a technology company.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbc9ccb2cb8a0e7d40804db24e183214\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Tesla</p><p>Page 23 ofTSLA&#39;s Q1 2022 slide deck from their earnings call is their statement of operations. Once again, 100% of TSLA&#39;s gross profit and net income are derived from automobiles. Energy generation and storage lose money as it generates $616 million in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $688 million. The same goes for Services and others, as this segment generates $1.279 billion in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $1.286 billion. This doesn&#39;t even factor in operating expenses.</p><p>TSLA manufacturers state of the art automobiles, but this doesn&#39;t classify them as a technology company, nor should they be classified as one. Since this is always the rebuttal and technology companies trade at larger earnings multiples, I will compare TSLA to Apple (AAPL), Microsoft (MSFT), Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG) (GOOGL), and Meta Platforms (FB) and illustrate why TSLA is still drastically overvalued if the market was still to provide it with a tech multiple.</p><p>Prior to the comparisons, I want to frame the analysis by providing each company&#39;s market cap:</p><ul><li>AAPL $2.69 Trillion</li><li>MSFT $2.17 Trillion</li><li>GOOGL $1.62 Trillion</li><li>AMZN $1.28 Trillion</li><li>TSLA $986.92 Billion</li><li>FB $604.62 Billion</li></ul><p>I am going to start with growth because this is always the key metric bulls point out. Since the close of 2018, which is 3.25 fiscal years, TSLA has grown its revenue from $21.46 billion to $62.19 billion.</p><p>This is absolutely remarkable, but it doesn&#39;t place TSLA in the upper epsilon of technology companies. Over the same period, FB grew its revenue by $63.83 billion, which is more than what TSLA produced in the TTM. FB grew its revenue by more than what TSLA produces and generates just about double the revenue ($119.67 billion), yet TSLA has a larger market cap. For everyone who has used growth as their investment premise, FB having a market cap that&#39;s $382.30 less than TSLA nullifies that aspect of the bull thesis. AMZN&#39;s market cap is only $294.33 billion larger than TSLA, yet they generated $477.75 billion in revenue and grew their revenue by $341.76 billion in this period. Using revenue growth for TSLA doesn&#39;t support the valuation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3c0fbd4eb93f026c4575ee8f77f53e4b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"396\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>Next, I will turn to profits because, at the end of the day, businesses are in the business of making money. Once again, TSLA has done a fantastic job of monetizing its business and, in 3.25 short years, has gone from losing -$976 million to make $8.4 billion in the TTM for an increase of $9.38 billion. FB has produced $37.34 billion in profit in the TTM, and its net income grew by $15.23 billion over this period. Using growth doesn&#39;t support the valuation when FB has a market cap that&#39;s $382.30 less than TSLA and grew its profits in this period by almost double what TSLA has generated in the TTM.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9716477607711ee0b6d4f77eb24c890\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"382\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>The new metric bulls are using in their thesis is TSLA&#39;s free cash flow (FCF). Once again, TSLA has done an excellent job, going from -$221 million of FCF in 2018 to $6.93 billion of FCF in the TTM. Many companies would love to grow their annual FCF by $7.15 billion over a 3.25-year period, and this should be applauded.</p><p>Let&#39;s look at FB once again, since TSLA&#39;s valuation isn&#39;t based on its core segment as an automobile manufacturer. FB has grown its FCF over the previous 3.25 years by $23.45 billion, more than 3x TSLA&#39;s growth, and has generated $39.81 billion of FCF in the TTM. FB generated roughly 5.75x more FCF than TSLA and grew its FCF by more than 3x what TSLA produces, yet FB has a market cap that&#39;s almost $400 billion less than TSLA. Growth within the financials does not support TSLA&#39;s valuation, which is a breath away from $1 trillion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/902a7074eda9e8f2f2765e0833423d2c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"373\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>Today you&#39;re paying a 113.81 P/E for TSLA. Paying a larger multiple for a company that&#39;s growing its earnings quickly is normal, but TSLA isn&#39;t growing by larger amounts than FB, and FB trades at a 16.66 P/E. I have seen TSLA bulls justify the P/E because of TSLA&#39;s growth factor, but this doesn&#39;t hold up when FB has grown by larger amounts from larger starting positions and has a P/E that&#39;s a fraction of TSLA. Look at AAPL, which is the largest company in the world. AAPL has grown its net income by $56.25 billion and its FCF by $52.3 billion over the past 3.25 years, and its P/E is 26.78. People are blindly paying any multiple the market places on TSLA.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/75168f6e39ced721cf0c53d78481a983\" tg-width=\"614\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>TSLA is trading at a 15.38 P/S. The justification for this multiple is difficult to defend while AMZN trades at a P/S of 11.31. AMZN&#39;s revenue grew by $341.76 billion over the past 3.25 years while TSLA grew their revenue by $40.73 billion. Instead of an absolute basis, looking at this from a percentage aspect, TSLA grew its revenue by 189.78%, while AMZN&#39;s grew by 251.32%. The P/S ratio is not a supporting valuation metric as TSLA is trading at a larger multiple than AMZN yet produced $301.03 billion less in revenue growth compared to AMZN. At the very least, TSLA should trade at a lower P/S multiple than AMZN considering their revenue growth was a fraction of AMZN&#39;s.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aad00a6c490808962705a1a2dae45cfe\" tg-width=\"608\" tg-height=\"338\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>TSLA has done an excellent job monetizing its revenue, delivering exceptional margins, and generating FCF. Now that TSLA is generating billions in FCF, it&#39;s been inserted into the bull thesis. FCF is a measure of profitability that excludes the non-cash expenses of the income statement and includes spending on equipment and assets as well as changes in working capital from the balance sheet. FCF could be the most underrated and most important financial metric to look at, as this is the pool of capital that companies can utilize to repay debt, pay dividends, buy back shares, make acquisitions, or reinvest in the business.</p><p>Every investment is the present value of all future cash flow. This is why investors look at the price to FCF valuation. Investors want to pay the cheapest multiple for a company&#39;s FCF. Today, you&#39;re paying 142.52x TSLA&#39;s FCF. Going back to the FCF section, TSLA grew its FCF by $7.15 billion over the past 3.25 years. FB generated $23.45 billion of FCF in this period, which is 3x the amount TSLA grew, yet FB is trading at a 15.19x multiple on price to FCF.</p><p>Why on earth would you want to pay 142.52x for TSLA&#39;s FCF when you could pay 15.19x for FB, which is growing their FCF by more than 3x the amount that TSLA is growing by? How about AAPL? AAPL grew its FCF by $52.3 billion and trades at a 25.4x price to FCF. If I exclude FB for a moment, should TSLA trade at a larger FCF multiple than GOOGL, which has grown its FCF by $46.15 billion over the past 3.25 years? My answer is no because there is no guarantee that TSLA will ever generate $46.15 billion in annual FCF, let alone the $68.99 billion in FCF that GOOGL generates.</p><p>So what is a fair price to FCF multiple for TSLA? I don&#39;t believe TSLA has earned the right to trade at the same multiples as the rest of big tech considering the levels of FCF they produce. If I stick with the methodology that FB is egregiously undervalued, then TSLA should trade above 15.19x its FCF but lower than the 23.42x multiple GOOGL trades at.</p><p>I don&#39;t want to be overly bearish, so I will place a 21x multiple on TSLA&#39;s FCF, which is more than fair considering big tech metrics. A 21x multiple on TSLA&#39;s FCF puts its market cap at $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion. It&#39;s just math, and if TSLA is going to be valued as a technology company, it needs to be compared to the technology companies with similar market caps.</p><p>At the very least, there isn&#39;t a single reason why TSLA&#39;s market cap is larger than FB&#39;s. There isn&#39;t a single metric that TSLA beats FB in. Based on FB&#39;s valuation, if TSLA traded at the same FCF multiple, it would have a market cap of $105.19 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b81a61d60d9ec098276569cc4a501da0\" tg-width=\"627\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>TSLA has a gross profit margin of 27.1% ($16.85b / $62.19b) and a profit margin of 13.51% ($8.4b / $62.19b). FB has a gross profit margin of 80.34% ($96.14b / $119.67b) and a profit margin of 31.2% ($37.34b / $119.67b). FB has much wider margins and is growing its revenue by larger amounts. This reinforces my methodology as to why TSLA is grossly overvalued. GOOGL has a gross profit margin of 56.93% ($153.9b / $270.33b) and a profit margin of 27.57% ($74.54b / $270.33b).</p><p>The chances are incredibly slim that TSLA can double its profit margin to be within striking distance of GOOGL&#39;s. TSLA should not trade at a larger FCF, P/E, or P/S multiple than FB or GOOGL. While the market would indicate that I am wrong today, eventually, the hype will wear off, and TSLA will trade at a realistic valuation.</p><p><b>TSLA&#39;s Future Catalysts Have A Long Way To Go Before Impacting Its Bottom Line</b></p><p>There are three main catalysts people discuss, which include insurance, robotaxis, and FSD.TSLA offers insurance using real-time driving behavior. This is currently available to all Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y owners. The catch is that it&#39;s only available in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, and Virginia as of now.</p><p>TSLA uses a safety rating score to determine the monthly premium for its vehicles. At the largest premium of $130/mo, this would be $1,560 per year. If TSLA converted 100% of their U.S sales in 2021 as an insurance customer, which I think could be possible if TSLA insurance was available in every state, it would have generated $471.12 million in revenue.</p><p>We have no idea what the margins would have been, but if the margin was 50%, it would have been an additional $235.56 million in net income in 2021. While this is nothing to sneeze at, an additional $235.56 million in net income hardly moves the needle. This could be a $1 billion top-line revenue segment in the future, but with availability in only 7 states, insurance&#39;s $1 billion revenue mark is a long way away.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e86de6232b9abf7cee46a9607eb09741\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"326\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Tesla</p><p>Next,FSD, for which TSLA has created two subscription models, a $99/mo price point and a $199/mo price point. The problem with FSD is that it doesn&#39;t make the vehicle fully autonomous, and you still need a driver to be attentive and alert. While I am not arguing that TSLA&#39;s FSD isn&#39;t leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, the problem is that it&#39;s not exactly a self-driving car.</p><p>The questions around legality and where you can use it pop into my head, and how many of TSLA&#39;s drivers opt for this upgrade. Until there is clear legislation and the technology advances to where vehicles can fully drive a person from point A to B while that person takes a nap or reads, I have a hard time believing enough TSLA owners will spend the extra $199/mo on FSD. If there is somewhere where TSLA produces the numbers about how many owners opt for this package, please let me know, and I will crunch the numbers.</p><p>Which Features Come With My Subscription?</p><blockquote>The FSD capability features you receive are based on your configuration and location. Not all features are available in all markets, and features are subject to change.Learn more about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving capability features.</blockquote><blockquote><i>Note: These features are designed to become more capable over time; however the currently enabled features do not make the vehicle autonomous. The currently enabled features require a fully attentive driver, who has their hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment.</i></blockquote><p>The last catalyst is Robotaxis which many have commented on in my articles before. We&#39;re so far off on Robotaxis that this can&#39;t be considered in TSLA&#39;s upcoming revenue. I would think major legislation would be needed for Robotaxis to exist, and there is no telling how many years away we are from this.</p><p>Also, what is the percentage of TSLA owners that would actually allow their vehicle to be used as a Robotaxi? Depending on what the profitability is, I can see people buying TSLAs to enroll them in this program, but, once again, we need to see the economics behind it. I know I am just one opinion, but I would never enroll one of my cars into a robotaxi program because I don&#39;t want other people that I don&#39;t know in my car. I would think there are many others that have similar viewpoints.</p><p>The real upcoming catalysts are future revenue growth and entering the Chinese market. In 2021 TSLA grew its YoY revenue by 70.67%, and their off to a great start after Q1 2022. Only time will tell what type of growth rate TSLA can maintain, but too many people are assuming that TSLA will obliterate the competition. Over the next several years, we could see TSLA&#39;s growth rate become significantly reduced as more luxury operators put EVs on the road.</p><p>At TSLA&#39;s current margins, they would need to increase their revenue by 444.55% to $276.47 billion to produce the same amount of net income ($37.34b) that FB produces today at their current 13.51% profit margin. Maybe TSLA can get there in the future, but why should TSLA be valued at almost $1 trillion today, considering not a single metric of theirs is similar to FB or GOOGL, and TSLA&#39;s growth across any of the sectors isn&#39;t larger than FB or GOOGL?</p><p><b>Tesla Continues To Dilute Shareholders, And Almost No Shareholders Care</b></p><p>Dilution kills shareholder value. Look, I am a shareholder of TSLA, and I hate that my shares continue to be diluted. These numbers are split-adjusted that I am using. Over the past decade,TSLA has diluted its shares by 80.93%. This is horrible compared to big tech, yet investors can&#39;t buy enough TSLA shares. TSLA finished 2012 with 572.6 million shares and, as of its last filing, had increased its outstanding shares to 1.036 billion shares.</p><p>This is the equivalent of me taking a pizza, and instead of giving you a slice, cutting another 6.5 slices, then giving you one. The pizza represents TSLA, the company, and they basically turned an 8-slice pie into a 14.5-slice pie, reducing shareholder&#39;s ownership and the amount of equity, revenue, and EPS our shares represent.</p><p>If you want to see what a true shepherd of shareholder value looks like, turn to AAPL. In 2012 AAPL had 26.3 billion shares outstanding. Over the past decade, AAPL has repurchased 10.09 billion shares, reducing its outstanding shares by 38.37%. Every quarter, AAPL is buying back shares and increasing the ownership its shares represent. TSLA, on the other hand, continues to dilute shareholders by increasing shares YOY.</p><p><b>I Could Be Completely Wrong, And Tesla Could Continue Growing At These Rates</b></p><p>TSLA&#39;s vehicle deliveries continue to outpace its growing production. YoY TSLA&#39;s deliveries increased by 68% in Q1, adding 125,171 delivered vehicles to its customers. TSLA just began Model Y deliveries from the Austin facility, and production at the Gigafactory in Berlin started in March of 2022. TSLA&#39;s Shanghai facility had strong production rates prior to the spike in COVID that resulted in temporary shutdowns. TSLA isn&#39;t just focusing on the U.S, they have Europe and China in their sights.</p><p>EVs accounted for 488,000 sales in the U.S for 2021, and the previous projection was that EVs would account for 670,000 units sold in 2022. Oil has hovered around $100 per barrel and could render the previous projections of 37% increased EV sales domestically for 2022 conservative. TSLA is in a prime position to capitalize on this trend. In 2021 TSLA vehicles accounted for 61.89% of EVs sold in the U.S (301,998 / 488,000).</p><p>Hypothetically, if the previous projection of 670,000 EV sales for 2022 is accurate and TSLA maintains its current margin, they would sell 414,628 vehicles throughout the U.S in 2022. If gas prices do alter the decision-making process when deciding between a combustible engine or an EV, then TSLA could continue surprising the market with QoQ earnings beats.</p><p>The U.S has a national goal of reaching 50% of domestic auto sales coming from EVs. In 2021, EVs accounted for 3.26% of total sales in the U.S auto market. Based on U.S auto sales in 2021, annual EV sales would need to grow by 6,989,403 to reach a 50% EV to combustible engine ratio. Hypothetically if U.S auto sales stayed flat but EVs reached 50% of the market in 2030 they would sell 7,477,403 vehicles. If TSLA&#39;s dominance in the EV sector was to drop from 61.89% to 15% due to increased competition, they would generate 1,121,610 in sales compared to 301,998 in 2021. When you add in Europe and China, TSLA certainly has the ability to become a top auto manufacturer by sales next decade.</p><p>Bulls aren&#39;t incorrect to be excited about TSLA. The world is moving toward EVs, and TSLA is the crème de la crème. As I said in the beginning, I am bullish about TSLA&#39;s future prospects, but I think the valuation today is overinflated. Nobody can predict the future, but I have no doubt that TSLA will continue to grow its sales YoY.</p><p>The question becomes, how much growth will they be able to achieve YoY? In 2021, TM generated $226.48 billion of revenue and, based on the future of EVs, TSLA certainly could achieve this level of revenue in the future. Based on TSLA&#39;s current 13.51% profit margin, if they achieved TM&#39;s level of revenue, they would generate $30.59 billion of net income, which would definitely make today&#39;s valuation look more realistic.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/93c9176fa9bebc2c940e038cafd23229\" tg-width=\"603\" tg-height=\"631\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Tesla</p><p><b>Conclusion</b></p><p>You&#39;re probably wondering how I can be a shareholder and be a bear on TSLA&#39;s valuation at the same time. It&#39;s simple; my wife bought shares of TSLA, which makes me a shareholder. My stance has always been bullish on the company and bearish on the valuation. What Elon Musk and the team at TSLA has accomplished is astonishing, and they deserve nothing but respect.</p><p>Keep in mind a company and a company&#39;s stock are two separate things. TSLA continues to dilute shareholders, and they and the market are valuing TSLA as if it&#39;s FB or GOOGL. TSLA is not a technology company; it&#39;s an automobile company, as the automotive segments drive 100% of its gross revenue and net income.</p><p>TSLA is trading at a P/E of 113.81, a P/S of 15.38, and a 142.52x multiple on its FCF. The numbers are drastically inflated as TSLA has no business trading at a larger P/S multiple than AMZN, which trades at 11.31 P/S when it has grown its revenue by $341.76 billion over the previous 3.25 years compared to TSLA&#39;s $40.73 billion of revenue growth. TSLA has generated $6.93 billion in FCF over the TTM, while Mr. Market has placed a 142.52x multiple on TSLA due to $7.15 billion FCF growth over the past 3.25 years. FB trades at a 15.19x FCF multiple while growing FCF by $23.45 billion over this period which is more than 3x what TSLA has generated in the TTM.</p><p>With FB trading at 15.19x FCF, GOOGL at 23.42x FCF, and AAPL at 25.4x FCF, it&#39;s hard to justify any number above 20x for TSLA. I think a 21x FCF multiple is generous and that places TSLA at a market cap of $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Overvalued By 85.26% And Not A Technology Company</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Overvalued By 85.26% And Not A Technology Company\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-08 11:30 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4507535-tesla-overvalued-by-85-26-percent-and-not-a-technology-company><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryMake no mistake, Tesla is a phenomenal company that has accomplished the unthinkable as it broke through extreme barriers of entry to disrupt the auto industry.Just because Tesla is a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4507535-tesla-overvalued-by-85-26-percent-and-not-a-technology-company\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4507535-tesla-overvalued-by-85-26-percent-and-not-a-technology-company","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1131831539","content_text":"SummaryMake no mistake, Tesla is a phenomenal company that has accomplished the unthinkable as it broke through extreme barriers of entry to disrupt the auto industry.Just because Tesla is a successful company that is causing automotive titans to change from combustible engines to EVs doesn't mean Tesla's stock is a good investment today.100% of gross profit and net income is generated from the automotive sector as Tesla's other businesses lose money, making them an automobile manufacturing company, not a technology company.I compared Tesla's metrics to the auto industry and big tech and the results are the same, Tesla's valuation is egregious.It's rare to find companies that have cult-like followings with loyalists willing to pay any price for its stock. The debate regarding Tesla, Inc.'s (NASDAQ:TSLA) valuation continues to be a topic of conversation between the bulls and the bears. Oneside argues that TSLA's financial growth and future prospects, including FSD, insurance, and robotaxis, justify the current $902.12 billion valuations, while others argue that the current financials and cult-like following have led to a massive overvaluation in TSLA's stock.I tip my hat to Elon Musk, as his accomplishments are second to none. When others called him crazy, Mr. Musk chose one of the hardest industries to compete in, started TSLA from the ground up, went to battle against the auto manufacturers, and succeeded. TSLA is one of the rare success stories that has truly shaped an industry, and the barriers of entry that were overcome are astonishing. TSLA didn't have the capital, manufacturing, credibility, or the infrastructure that its competitors did, yet they found a way to succeed. If the odds weren't enough which TSLA faced, they accomplished their goals without a combustible engine and pioneered an entirely new sector within the automotive industry.Just because TSLA is a great company, it doesn't mean TSLA has a great stock, or it isn't overvalued. I am not bearish on TSLA the company because I believe they still have a long runway of growth ahead of them, but I am bearish on the valuation. Prior to leaving a comment on why I am wrong, please read the article and think about the metrics I am citing; then, I will happily discuss any viewpoints about the analysis.Tesla Vs. The World In The Automotive SectorIt feels like TSLA vs. the world whenever TSLA is discussed. Discussing who makes a better automobile is a matter of opinion, and everyone is correct because it's their opinion. If person A thinks TSLA makes the best car and person B thinks Mercedes Benz makes the best car, they are both correct. Debating over this is pointless, so let's look at the raw numbers.TSLA has a larger market cap than the combination ofToyota(TM),Volkswagen(OTCPK:VWAGY),Daimler(OTCPK:DDAIF),BMW(OTCPK:BMWYY),General Motors(GM),Ford(F),Honda(HMC),Ferrari(RACE),Nissan(OTCPK:NSANY),Subaru(OTCPK:FUJHY),Volvo(OTCPK:VOLAF), andMazda(OTCPK:MZDAY). TSLA's market cap is currently $986.92 billion, while the combination of these 12 companies is $777.41 billion.Steven FiorilloThe P/S ratio is often cited to justify the valuation. The combination of TM, VWAGY, DDAIF, BMWYY, GM, F, HMC, RACE, NSANY, FUJHY, VOLAF, and MZDAY has generated $1.38 trillion in revenue over the TTM, putting their P/S at 0.56, while TSLA has generated $62.19 billion in revenue and has a 15.87 P/S.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaAs a combined entity, these 12 companies have generated $118.29 billion in net income, while TSLA has produced $8.4 billion.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaTSLA is a great company, but its current valuation has become overly inflated. TSLA's market cap is $209.52 billion larger than these 12 auto manufacturers, yet the combination of the 12 auto manufacturers generates $1.32 trillion more in revenue and $109.89 billion more in net income.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaLooking at the market caps, one would assume that TSLA has a dominant majority over its competitors in auto sales within the U.S. According to the2021 data, TSLA sold 2.02% of all vehicles in the U.S. TSLA's market cap reflects a level of dominance that is non-existent.Realistically, TSLA will have a hard time disrupting the sector further due to the price point of their vehicles. The reality is that, unless TSLA can sell a car that rivals a Honda or Toyota, doubling its market share is going to be a daunting task. It's just math. TSLA doesn't have a product for the masses, and while it may continue to grow in the luxury segment, the amount of growth that can be achieved is limited due to the pricing power of the consumer.www.goodcarbadcar.netTesla Isn't A Technology Company And Shouldn't Be Valued As OneThe valuation rebuttal has always been that TSLA isn't an automobile company, rather, it's a technology company.TeslaPage 23 ofTSLA's Q1 2022 slide deck from their earnings call is their statement of operations. Once again, 100% of TSLA's gross profit and net income are derived from automobiles. Energy generation and storage lose money as it generates $616 million in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $688 million. The same goes for Services and others, as this segment generates $1.279 billion in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $1.286 billion. This doesn't even factor in operating expenses.TSLA manufacturers state of the art automobiles, but this doesn't classify them as a technology company, nor should they be classified as one. Since this is always the rebuttal and technology companies trade at larger earnings multiples, I will compare TSLA to Apple (AAPL), Microsoft (MSFT), Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG) (GOOGL), and Meta Platforms (FB) and illustrate why TSLA is still drastically overvalued if the market was still to provide it with a tech multiple.Prior to the comparisons, I want to frame the analysis by providing each company's market cap:AAPL $2.69 TrillionMSFT $2.17 TrillionGOOGL $1.62 TrillionAMZN $1.28 TrillionTSLA $986.92 BillionFB $604.62 BillionI am going to start with growth because this is always the key metric bulls point out. Since the close of 2018, which is 3.25 fiscal years, TSLA has grown its revenue from $21.46 billion to $62.19 billion.This is absolutely remarkable, but it doesn't place TSLA in the upper epsilon of technology companies. Over the same period, FB grew its revenue by $63.83 billion, which is more than what TSLA produced in the TTM. FB grew its revenue by more than what TSLA produces and generates just about double the revenue ($119.67 billion), yet TSLA has a larger market cap. For everyone who has used growth as their investment premise, FB having a market cap that's $382.30 less than TSLA nullifies that aspect of the bull thesis. AMZN's market cap is only $294.33 billion larger than TSLA, yet they generated $477.75 billion in revenue and grew their revenue by $341.76 billion in this period. Using revenue growth for TSLA doesn't support the valuation.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaNext, I will turn to profits because, at the end of the day, businesses are in the business of making money. Once again, TSLA has done a fantastic job of monetizing its business and, in 3.25 short years, has gone from losing -$976 million to make $8.4 billion in the TTM for an increase of $9.38 billion. FB has produced $37.34 billion in profit in the TTM, and its net income grew by $15.23 billion over this period. Using growth doesn't support the valuation when FB has a market cap that's $382.30 less than TSLA and grew its profits in this period by almost double what TSLA has generated in the TTM.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaThe new metric bulls are using in their thesis is TSLA's free cash flow (FCF). Once again, TSLA has done an excellent job, going from -$221 million of FCF in 2018 to $6.93 billion of FCF in the TTM. Many companies would love to grow their annual FCF by $7.15 billion over a 3.25-year period, and this should be applauded.Let's look at FB once again, since TSLA's valuation isn't based on its core segment as an automobile manufacturer. FB has grown its FCF over the previous 3.25 years by $23.45 billion, more than 3x TSLA's growth, and has generated $39.81 billion of FCF in the TTM. FB generated roughly 5.75x more FCF than TSLA and grew its FCF by more than 3x what TSLA produces, yet FB has a market cap that's almost $400 billion less than TSLA. Growth within the financials does not support TSLA's valuation, which is a breath away from $1 trillion.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaToday you're paying a 113.81 P/E for TSLA. Paying a larger multiple for a company that's growing its earnings quickly is normal, but TSLA isn't growing by larger amounts than FB, and FB trades at a 16.66 P/E. I have seen TSLA bulls justify the P/E because of TSLA's growth factor, but this doesn't hold up when FB has grown by larger amounts from larger starting positions and has a P/E that's a fraction of TSLA. Look at AAPL, which is the largest company in the world. AAPL has grown its net income by $56.25 billion and its FCF by $52.3 billion over the past 3.25 years, and its P/E is 26.78. People are blindly paying any multiple the market places on TSLA.TSLA is trading at a 15.38 P/S. The justification for this multiple is difficult to defend while AMZN trades at a P/S of 11.31. AMZN's revenue grew by $341.76 billion over the past 3.25 years while TSLA grew their revenue by $40.73 billion. Instead of an absolute basis, looking at this from a percentage aspect, TSLA grew its revenue by 189.78%, while AMZN's grew by 251.32%. The P/S ratio is not a supporting valuation metric as TSLA is trading at a larger multiple than AMZN yet produced $301.03 billion less in revenue growth compared to AMZN. At the very least, TSLA should trade at a lower P/S multiple than AMZN considering their revenue growth was a fraction of AMZN's.TSLA has done an excellent job monetizing its revenue, delivering exceptional margins, and generating FCF. Now that TSLA is generating billions in FCF, it's been inserted into the bull thesis. FCF is a measure of profitability that excludes the non-cash expenses of the income statement and includes spending on equipment and assets as well as changes in working capital from the balance sheet. FCF could be the most underrated and most important financial metric to look at, as this is the pool of capital that companies can utilize to repay debt, pay dividends, buy back shares, make acquisitions, or reinvest in the business.Every investment is the present value of all future cash flow. This is why investors look at the price to FCF valuation. Investors want to pay the cheapest multiple for a company's FCF. Today, you're paying 142.52x TSLA's FCF. Going back to the FCF section, TSLA grew its FCF by $7.15 billion over the past 3.25 years. FB generated $23.45 billion of FCF in this period, which is 3x the amount TSLA grew, yet FB is trading at a 15.19x multiple on price to FCF.Why on earth would you want to pay 142.52x for TSLA's FCF when you could pay 15.19x for FB, which is growing their FCF by more than 3x the amount that TSLA is growing by? How about AAPL? AAPL grew its FCF by $52.3 billion and trades at a 25.4x price to FCF. If I exclude FB for a moment, should TSLA trade at a larger FCF multiple than GOOGL, which has grown its FCF by $46.15 billion over the past 3.25 years? My answer is no because there is no guarantee that TSLA will ever generate $46.15 billion in annual FCF, let alone the $68.99 billion in FCF that GOOGL generates.So what is a fair price to FCF multiple for TSLA? I don't believe TSLA has earned the right to trade at the same multiples as the rest of big tech considering the levels of FCF they produce. If I stick with the methodology that FB is egregiously undervalued, then TSLA should trade above 15.19x its FCF but lower than the 23.42x multiple GOOGL trades at.I don't want to be overly bearish, so I will place a 21x multiple on TSLA's FCF, which is more than fair considering big tech metrics. A 21x multiple on TSLA's FCF puts its market cap at $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion. It's just math, and if TSLA is going to be valued as a technology company, it needs to be compared to the technology companies with similar market caps.At the very least, there isn't a single reason why TSLA's market cap is larger than FB's. There isn't a single metric that TSLA beats FB in. Based on FB's valuation, if TSLA traded at the same FCF multiple, it would have a market cap of $105.19 billion.TSLA has a gross profit margin of 27.1% ($16.85b / $62.19b) and a profit margin of 13.51% ($8.4b / $62.19b). FB has a gross profit margin of 80.34% ($96.14b / $119.67b) and a profit margin of 31.2% ($37.34b / $119.67b). FB has much wider margins and is growing its revenue by larger amounts. This reinforces my methodology as to why TSLA is grossly overvalued. GOOGL has a gross profit margin of 56.93% ($153.9b / $270.33b) and a profit margin of 27.57% ($74.54b / $270.33b).The chances are incredibly slim that TSLA can double its profit margin to be within striking distance of GOOGL's. TSLA should not trade at a larger FCF, P/E, or P/S multiple than FB or GOOGL. While the market would indicate that I am wrong today, eventually, the hype will wear off, and TSLA will trade at a realistic valuation.TSLA's Future Catalysts Have A Long Way To Go Before Impacting Its Bottom LineThere are three main catalysts people discuss, which include insurance, robotaxis, and FSD.TSLA offers insurance using real-time driving behavior. This is currently available to all Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y owners. The catch is that it's only available in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, and Virginia as of now.TSLA uses a safety rating score to determine the monthly premium for its vehicles. At the largest premium of $130/mo, this would be $1,560 per year. If TSLA converted 100% of their U.S sales in 2021 as an insurance customer, which I think could be possible if TSLA insurance was available in every state, it would have generated $471.12 million in revenue.We have no idea what the margins would have been, but if the margin was 50%, it would have been an additional $235.56 million in net income in 2021. While this is nothing to sneeze at, an additional $235.56 million in net income hardly moves the needle. This could be a $1 billion top-line revenue segment in the future, but with availability in only 7 states, insurance's $1 billion revenue mark is a long way away.TeslaNext,FSD, for which TSLA has created two subscription models, a $99/mo price point and a $199/mo price point. The problem with FSD is that it doesn't make the vehicle fully autonomous, and you still need a driver to be attentive and alert. While I am not arguing that TSLA's FSD isn't leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, the problem is that it's not exactly a self-driving car.The questions around legality and where you can use it pop into my head, and how many of TSLA's drivers opt for this upgrade. Until there is clear legislation and the technology advances to where vehicles can fully drive a person from point A to B while that person takes a nap or reads, I have a hard time believing enough TSLA owners will spend the extra $199/mo on FSD. If there is somewhere where TSLA produces the numbers about how many owners opt for this package, please let me know, and I will crunch the numbers.Which Features Come With My Subscription?The FSD capability features you receive are based on your configuration and location. Not all features are available in all markets, and features are subject to change.Learn more about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving capability features.Note: These features are designed to become more capable over time; however the currently enabled features do not make the vehicle autonomous. The currently enabled features require a fully attentive driver, who has their hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment.The last catalyst is Robotaxis which many have commented on in my articles before. We're so far off on Robotaxis that this can't be considered in TSLA's upcoming revenue. I would think major legislation would be needed for Robotaxis to exist, and there is no telling how many years away we are from this.Also, what is the percentage of TSLA owners that would actually allow their vehicle to be used as a Robotaxi? Depending on what the profitability is, I can see people buying TSLAs to enroll them in this program, but, once again, we need to see the economics behind it. I know I am just one opinion, but I would never enroll one of my cars into a robotaxi program because I don't want other people that I don't know in my car. I would think there are many others that have similar viewpoints.The real upcoming catalysts are future revenue growth and entering the Chinese market. In 2021 TSLA grew its YoY revenue by 70.67%, and their off to a great start after Q1 2022. Only time will tell what type of growth rate TSLA can maintain, but too many people are assuming that TSLA will obliterate the competition. Over the next several years, we could see TSLA's growth rate become significantly reduced as more luxury operators put EVs on the road.At TSLA's current margins, they would need to increase their revenue by 444.55% to $276.47 billion to produce the same amount of net income ($37.34b) that FB produces today at their current 13.51% profit margin. Maybe TSLA can get there in the future, but why should TSLA be valued at almost $1 trillion today, considering not a single metric of theirs is similar to FB or GOOGL, and TSLA's growth across any of the sectors isn't larger than FB or GOOGL?Tesla Continues To Dilute Shareholders, And Almost No Shareholders CareDilution kills shareholder value. Look, I am a shareholder of TSLA, and I hate that my shares continue to be diluted. These numbers are split-adjusted that I am using. Over the past decade,TSLA has diluted its shares by 80.93%. This is horrible compared to big tech, yet investors can't buy enough TSLA shares. TSLA finished 2012 with 572.6 million shares and, as of its last filing, had increased its outstanding shares to 1.036 billion shares.This is the equivalent of me taking a pizza, and instead of giving you a slice, cutting another 6.5 slices, then giving you one. The pizza represents TSLA, the company, and they basically turned an 8-slice pie into a 14.5-slice pie, reducing shareholder's ownership and the amount of equity, revenue, and EPS our shares represent.If you want to see what a true shepherd of shareholder value looks like, turn to AAPL. In 2012 AAPL had 26.3 billion shares outstanding. Over the past decade, AAPL has repurchased 10.09 billion shares, reducing its outstanding shares by 38.37%. Every quarter, AAPL is buying back shares and increasing the ownership its shares represent. TSLA, on the other hand, continues to dilute shareholders by increasing shares YOY.I Could Be Completely Wrong, And Tesla Could Continue Growing At These RatesTSLA's vehicle deliveries continue to outpace its growing production. YoY TSLA's deliveries increased by 68% in Q1, adding 125,171 delivered vehicles to its customers. TSLA just began Model Y deliveries from the Austin facility, and production at the Gigafactory in Berlin started in March of 2022. TSLA's Shanghai facility had strong production rates prior to the spike in COVID that resulted in temporary shutdowns. TSLA isn't just focusing on the U.S, they have Europe and China in their sights.EVs accounted for 488,000 sales in the U.S for 2021, and the previous projection was that EVs would account for 670,000 units sold in 2022. Oil has hovered around $100 per barrel and could render the previous projections of 37% increased EV sales domestically for 2022 conservative. TSLA is in a prime position to capitalize on this trend. In 2021 TSLA vehicles accounted for 61.89% of EVs sold in the U.S (301,998 / 488,000).Hypothetically, if the previous projection of 670,000 EV sales for 2022 is accurate and TSLA maintains its current margin, they would sell 414,628 vehicles throughout the U.S in 2022. If gas prices do alter the decision-making process when deciding between a combustible engine or an EV, then TSLA could continue surprising the market with QoQ earnings beats.The U.S has a national goal of reaching 50% of domestic auto sales coming from EVs. In 2021, EVs accounted for 3.26% of total sales in the U.S auto market. Based on U.S auto sales in 2021, annual EV sales would need to grow by 6,989,403 to reach a 50% EV to combustible engine ratio. Hypothetically if U.S auto sales stayed flat but EVs reached 50% of the market in 2030 they would sell 7,477,403 vehicles. If TSLA's dominance in the EV sector was to drop from 61.89% to 15% due to increased competition, they would generate 1,121,610 in sales compared to 301,998 in 2021. When you add in Europe and China, TSLA certainly has the ability to become a top auto manufacturer by sales next decade.Bulls aren't incorrect to be excited about TSLA. The world is moving toward EVs, and TSLA is the crème de la crème. As I said in the beginning, I am bullish about TSLA's future prospects, but I think the valuation today is overinflated. Nobody can predict the future, but I have no doubt that TSLA will continue to grow its sales YoY.The question becomes, how much growth will they be able to achieve YoY? In 2021, TM generated $226.48 billion of revenue and, based on the future of EVs, TSLA certainly could achieve this level of revenue in the future. Based on TSLA's current 13.51% profit margin, if they achieved TM's level of revenue, they would generate $30.59 billion of net income, which would definitely make today's valuation look more realistic.TeslaConclusionYou're probably wondering how I can be a shareholder and be a bear on TSLA's valuation at the same time. It's simple; my wife bought shares of TSLA, which makes me a shareholder. My stance has always been bullish on the company and bearish on the valuation. What Elon Musk and the team at TSLA has accomplished is astonishing, and they deserve nothing but respect.Keep in mind a company and a company's stock are two separate things. TSLA continues to dilute shareholders, and they and the market are valuing TSLA as if it's FB or GOOGL. TSLA is not a technology company; it's an automobile company, as the automotive segments drive 100% of its gross revenue and net income.TSLA is trading at a P/E of 113.81, a P/S of 15.38, and a 142.52x multiple on its FCF. The numbers are drastically inflated as TSLA has no business trading at a larger P/S multiple than AMZN, which trades at 11.31 P/S when it has grown its revenue by $341.76 billion over the previous 3.25 years compared to TSLA's $40.73 billion of revenue growth. TSLA has generated $6.93 billion in FCF over the TTM, while Mr. Market has placed a 142.52x multiple on TSLA due to $7.15 billion FCF growth over the past 3.25 years. FB trades at a 15.19x FCF multiple while growing FCF by $23.45 billion over this period which is more than 3x what TSLA has generated in the TTM.With FB trading at 15.19x FCF, GOOGL at 23.42x FCF, and AAPL at 25.4x FCF, it's hard to justify any number above 20x for TSLA. I think a 21x FCF multiple is generous and that places TSLA at a market cap of $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":174,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9060771261,"gmtCreate":1651197689039,"gmtModify":1676534869045,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Only up from here","listText":"Only up from here","text":"Only up from here","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9060771261","repostId":"2231940479","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2231940479","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1651197162,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2231940479?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-29 09:52","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Elon Musk Sold Around $4 Billion Worth Of Tesla Shares","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2231940479","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Elon Musk sold about $4 billion worth of Tesla Inc. shares after announcing a blockbuster $44 billio","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk sold about $4 billion worth of <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Inc.</a> shares after announcing a blockbuster $44 billion deal to buy <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter Inc.</a>.</p><p>Tesla’s chief executive officer offloaded about 4.4 million shares on April 26 and April 27, filings showed late Thursday. Wall Street analysts and investors in the electric carmaker suspected that Musk may need to sell some stock to cover the $21 billion equity portion of the transaction that he’s personally guaranteed.</p><p>Musk tweeted shortly after the filings were made public that he has “no further Tesla sales planned after today.”</p><p>Musk and Twitter reached an agreement on Monday for the world’s richest man to buy the social media company. His quest raises several “key man risk” issues for Tesla, where Musk has been CEO since 2008 and has long been the largest shareholder. Meanwhile, confirmation of his sales may unnerve shareholders, scores of whom are retail investors.</p><p>Tesla shares fell 12% on April 26, the most since September 2020, and were little changed in the following two sessions, with the stock closing Thursday at $877.51. Another $12.5 billion of Musk’s deal for Twitter is secured by his Tesla stake.</p><p>“It’s a brutal cycle for Tesla investors to navigate and casts a shadow on the name with Musk selling more stock,” said Dan Ives of Wedbush. “The Twitter deal is becoming an albatross for Tesla’s stock and this pours gasoline on the raging fire.”</p><p>Twitter shares closed Thursday at $49.11, short of the $54.20 that investors will receive for each share they own under the company’s deal with Musk.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk Sold Around $4 Billion Worth Of Tesla Shares</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nElon Musk Sold Around $4 Billion Worth Of Tesla Shares\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-04-29 09:52</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk sold about $4 billion worth of <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Inc.</a> shares after announcing a blockbuster $44 billion deal to buy <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter Inc.</a>.</p><p>Tesla’s chief executive officer offloaded about 4.4 million shares on April 26 and April 27, filings showed late Thursday. Wall Street analysts and investors in the electric carmaker suspected that Musk may need to sell some stock to cover the $21 billion equity portion of the transaction that he’s personally guaranteed.</p><p>Musk tweeted shortly after the filings were made public that he has “no further Tesla sales planned after today.”</p><p>Musk and Twitter reached an agreement on Monday for the world’s richest man to buy the social media company. His quest raises several “key man risk” issues for Tesla, where Musk has been CEO since 2008 and has long been the largest shareholder. Meanwhile, confirmation of his sales may unnerve shareholders, scores of whom are retail investors.</p><p>Tesla shares fell 12% on April 26, the most since September 2020, and were little changed in the following two sessions, with the stock closing Thursday at $877.51. Another $12.5 billion of Musk’s deal for Twitter is secured by his Tesla stake.</p><p>“It’s a brutal cycle for Tesla investors to navigate and casts a shadow on the name with Musk selling more stock,” said Dan Ives of Wedbush. “The Twitter deal is becoming an albatross for Tesla’s stock and this pours gasoline on the raging fire.”</p><p>Twitter shares closed Thursday at $49.11, short of the $54.20 that investors will receive for each share they own under the company’s deal with Musk.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TWTR":"Twitter"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2231940479","content_text":"Elon Musk sold about $4 billion worth of Tesla Inc. shares after announcing a blockbuster $44 billion deal to buy Twitter Inc..Tesla’s chief executive officer offloaded about 4.4 million shares on April 26 and April 27, filings showed late Thursday. Wall Street analysts and investors in the electric carmaker suspected that Musk may need to sell some stock to cover the $21 billion equity portion of the transaction that he’s personally guaranteed.Musk tweeted shortly after the filings were made public that he has “no further Tesla sales planned after today.”Musk and Twitter reached an agreement on Monday for the world’s richest man to buy the social media company. His quest raises several “key man risk” issues for Tesla, where Musk has been CEO since 2008 and has long been the largest shareholder. Meanwhile, confirmation of his sales may unnerve shareholders, scores of whom are retail investors.Tesla shares fell 12% on April 26, the most since September 2020, and were little changed in the following two sessions, with the stock closing Thursday at $877.51. Another $12.5 billion of Musk’s deal for Twitter is secured by his Tesla stake.“It’s a brutal cycle for Tesla investors to navigate and casts a shadow on the name with Musk selling more stock,” said Dan Ives of Wedbush. “The Twitter deal is becoming an albatross for Tesla’s stock and this pours gasoline on the raging fire.”Twitter shares closed Thursday at $49.11, short of the $54.20 that investors will receive for each share they own under the company’s deal with Musk.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":197,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9060857039,"gmtCreate":1651127629867,"gmtModify":1676534855665,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"He's not being serious...&nbsp;what has Coca Cola gotta do with a better future??? cmon hahaha","listText":"He's not being serious...&nbsp;what has Coca Cola gotta do with a better future??? cmon hahaha","text":"He's not being serious... what has Coca Cola gotta do with a better future??? cmon hahaha","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9060857039","repostId":"1188662887","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1188662887","pubTimestamp":1651113201,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1188662887?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-28 10:33","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Musk Tweets He’ll Buy Coca-Cola Next","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1188662887","media":"TheStreet","summary":"Elon Musk's addiction to continuous attention shows no signs of slowing down.The $Tesla(TSLA)$ CEO and the world’s richest man sent out another headline-grabbing tweet late Wednesday.Earlier this week","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk&#39;s addiction to continuous attention shows no signs of slowing down.</p><p>The <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> CEO and the world’s richest man sent out another headline-grabbing tweet late Wednesday.</p><p>Earlier this week, Musk won an agreement from <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter’s </a> board for him to buy the social media company for $44 billion. The deal won the blessing of Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey.</p><p>Since then, Musk has offered a series of controversial tweets, seemingly unable to give up the thrill of being the constant center of attention of much of the business and governmental worlds.</p><p>In particular, he’s harped on so-called freedom of speech problems at Twitter, raising concerns that he might reinstate former president Donald Trump on the platform. Trump was permanently banned from Twitter for fears he would incite even more violence in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection.</p><p>Five people died as a result of the violent attempt by Trump supporters to take over the capital and stop the counting of the electoral votes and Trump was impeached for a second time as a result.</p><p>Though Musk calls himself a &#34;free speech absolutist,&#34; the Supreme Court has ruled that freedom of speech protections in the constitution do not extend to &#34;yelling &#39;fire&#39; in a crowded theater.&#34;</p><p><b>Old Coke</b>?</p><p>Not content, however, Musk lobbed out another wild idea Wednesday.</p><p>What else to make of Musk’s latest tweet in which he says “Next I’m buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in.”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6b0613746a77f511e650965d65a2463e\" tg-width=\"622\" tg-height=\"204\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Venerable <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KO\">Coca-Cola</a> was once made using cocaine, but the drug was removed from the recipe at the beginning of the 20th century, before the drink became a global phenomenon.</p><p>Acquiring Coca-Cola would be a much bigger task for Musk than Twitter, as its market capitalization is currently about $288 billion, equivalent to Musk’s entire net worth on any given day.</p><p>There’s another wrinkle that could get in the way as well, since Coca-Cola’s largest single shareholder is Warren Buffett, who holds about 9% of the soft drink maker through his <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">Berkshire-Hathaway </a> investment vehicle.</p><p>Buffett made his first purchases of Coca-Cola in the wake of the 1987 stock market crash and has profited handsomely over the years.</p><p>Unlike Musk, Buffett generally takes a hands off approach to any companies he buys or holds large stakes in.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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The deal won the blessing of Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey.Since then, Musk has offered a series of controversial tweets, seemingly unable to give up the thrill of being the constant center of attention of much of the business and governmental worlds.In particular, he’s harped on so-called freedom of speech problems at Twitter, raising concerns that he might reinstate former president Donald Trump on the platform. Trump was permanently banned from Twitter for fears he would incite even more violence in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection.Five people died as a result of the violent attempt by Trump supporters to take over the capital and stop the counting of the electoral votes and Trump was impeached for a second time as a result.Though Musk calls himself a \"free speech absolutist,\" the Supreme Court has ruled that freedom of speech protections in the constitution do not extend to \"yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater.\"Old Coke?Not content, however, Musk lobbed out another wild idea Wednesday.What else to make of Musk’s latest tweet in which he says “Next I’m buying Coca-Cola to put the cocaine back in.”Venerable Coca-Cola was once made using cocaine, but the drug was removed from the recipe at the beginning of the 20th century, before the drink became a global phenomenon.Acquiring Coca-Cola would be a much bigger task for Musk than Twitter, as its market capitalization is currently about $288 billion, equivalent to Musk’s entire net worth on any given day.There’s another wrinkle that could get in the way as well, since Coca-Cola’s largest single shareholder is Warren Buffett, who holds about 9% of the soft drink maker through his Berkshire-Hathaway  investment vehicle.Buffett made his first purchases of Coca-Cola in the wake of the 1987 stock market crash and has profited handsomely over the years.Unlike Musk, Buffett generally takes a hands off approach to any companies he buys or holds large stakes in.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":325,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9060854219,"gmtCreate":1651127563579,"gmtModify":1676534855658,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"How about from 2010? 😂😂😂","listText":"How about from 2010? 😂😂😂","text":"How about from 2010? 😂😂😂","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9060854219","repostId":"1156590907","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1156590907","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1651122291,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1156590907?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-28 13:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tiger Chart｜Return on Investment of Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1156590907","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway delivered a 24.4% annualized return on investment between 1965 and 2021","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Buffett&#39;s Berkshire Hathaway delivered a 24.4% annualized return on investment between 1965 and 2021.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fea489401b507bd82d8e884a6dc81f14\" tg-width=\"1500\" tg-height=\"1700\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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It is not completely certain that the operation will be finalized. Questions about financing, mainly through a leveraged buyout, have been raised.</p><p>In the meantime, Musk, who has become one the biggest influencers on Twitter with more than 86.6 million followers, must now also deal with the consequences of his activity on the social network.</p><p>A New York judge has just rejected his request to ditch a settlement reached in September 2018 with the Securities and Exchange Commission.</p><p>That agreement was supposed to end an investigation into a tweet that caused the price of Tesla (<b>TSLA</b>) shares to fall, a company of which he is the chief executive officer.</p><h2>2018 Settlement with SEC Maintained</h2><p>According to this agreement, Musk was fined $20 million, with an additional $20 million in financial penalties for Tesla.</p><p>The serial entrepreneur also had to give up his title as Tesla&#39;s chairman, and a lawyer for the high-end electric vehicle manufacturer had to pre-approve his stock-related Tesla tweets before they were published.</p><p>That position was quickly dubbed the &#34;Twitter sitter&#34; by the media, a moniker which has stuck.</p><p>After accepting these terms, the billionaire recently escalated hostilities with the SEC, which he accuses of harassment and violating his free speech rights.</p><p>It should be noted that it is in the name of the principles of free speech that Musk has said he wants to acquire Twitter.</p><p>&#34;As Musk states, &#39;[e]conomic duress is an equitable doctrine which comes into play upon the doing of a wrongful act which is sufficiently coercive to cause a reasonably prudent person faced with no reasonable alternative to succumb to the perpetrator’s pressure,&#39;” Judge Lewis Limanwrotein his ruling on April 27.</p><p>&#34;But Musk’s argument that the SEC acted wrongfully amounts to one sentence: &#39;In 2018, the SEC took advantage of the position in which it put Mr. Musk&#39;.”</p><p>&#34;That conclusory assertion is insufficient to sustain a finding of economic duress,&#34; Liman said.</p><p>And then added: &#34;Musk was not forced to enter into the consent decree; rather, “for [his] own strategic purposes, [Musk], with the advice and assistance of counsel, entered into these agreements voluntarily, in order to secure the benefits thereof, including finality.”</p><p>The judge insisted that &#34;Musk cannot now seek to retract the agreement he knowingly and willingly entered by simply bemoaning that he felt like he had to agree to it at the time but now — once the specter of the litigation is a distant memory and his company has become, in his estimation, all but invincible —wishes that he had not.&#34;</p><p>Therefore, &#34;the motion to quash the subpoena and to terminate the consent decree is denied.&#34;</p><h2>Tweetgate And The &#39;Twitter Sitter&#39;</h2><p>The battle between the richest man in the world and the SEC dates back to Aug. 7, 2018, or what is called the Tweetgate.</p><p>On Aug. 7, 2018, Musk had written that he wanted to withdraw Tesla from the stock market at a price of $420 per share. Above all, he added that he had secured the financing for such a transaction.</p><p>That day Musk surprised the market by posting the following message, &#34;Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.&#34;</p><p>&#34;Nothing will ever change the truth which is that Elon Musk was considering taking Tesla private and could have,&#34; Alex Spiro, Mr Musk&#39;s lawyer told TheStreet in an emailed statement.</p><p>&#34;All that&#39;s left some half decade later is remnant litigation which will continue to make that truth clearer and clearer.&#34;</p><h2>Rising Tensions with The SEC</h2><p>The SEC opened an investigation which resulted in a settlement in September 2018.</p><p>Under the settlement, Tesla also committed to pre-approve any of Musk&#39;s tweets that might have a potential impact on the stock.</p><p>For some shareholders the case is not closed — they have filed a class-action lawsuit, and the trial is set to begin on May 31.</p><p>This lawsuit claims said they were financially harmed by Musk&#39;s tweet and that Musk lied by saying he had the necessary funds to finance the operation.</p><p>Californian judge Edward Chensaidon the evening of April 15 that Musk&#39;s statement that he had secured the funding was false.</p><p>But Tesla disclosed in a Feb. 7 regulatory filing that in November it had received a subpoena from the SEC requesting information related to the settlement.</p><p>That accord had mandated that the company vet Musk&#39;s tweets on information that could weigh on the stock.</p><p>The SEC also served Musk with a subpoena on Nov. 29 regarding a formal investigation into his Twitter activity. The subpoena prompted Musk to ask the judge to ditch the 2018 settlement.</p><p>&#34;Musk may wish it were otherwise, but he remains subject to the same enforcement authority — and has the same means to challenge the exercise of that authority — as any other citizen,&#34; Liman said in his ruling.</p><p>&#34;Indeed, to conclude otherwise would be to hold that a serial violator of the securities laws or a recidivist would enjoy greater protection against SEC enforcement than a person who had never even been accused of a securities law violation.&#34;</p><h2>A Renewal of Unfriendly Fire</h2><p>The new hostilities between Musk and the SEC relate to a poll organized by the businessman on his Twitter account last year.</p><p>&#34;Much is made lately of unrealized gains being a means of tax avoidance, so I propose selling 10% of my Tesla stock. Do you support this?&#34; Musk posted on Twitter on Nov. 6, 2021.</p><p>He continued: &#34;I will abide by the results of this poll, whichever way it goes.&#34;</p><p>Since then, the two camps have been clashing again. Musk even suggested on Twitter that he was building a case against the regulator.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1610613172068","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk Loses an Important Battle</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nElon Musk Loses an Important Battle\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-28 14:04 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-takes-a-resounding-blow><strong>the street</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Elon Musk has been everywhere for several weeks.The billionaire is set to acquire Twitter (TWTR), its primary communications network for which he made a $44 billion bid on April 14.This offer, at a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-takes-a-resounding-blow\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TWTR":"Twitter"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-takes-a-resounding-blow","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1174993242","content_text":"Elon Musk has been everywhere for several weeks.The billionaire is set to acquire Twitter (TWTR), its primary communications network for which he made a $44 billion bid on April 14.This offer, at a price of $54.20 per Twitter share, was accepted by the board of directors of the social network.Both parties are now working out the details of the transaction. It is not completely certain that the operation will be finalized. Questions about financing, mainly through a leveraged buyout, have been raised.In the meantime, Musk, who has become one the biggest influencers on Twitter with more than 86.6 million followers, must now also deal with the consequences of his activity on the social network.A New York judge has just rejected his request to ditch a settlement reached in September 2018 with the Securities and Exchange Commission.That agreement was supposed to end an investigation into a tweet that caused the price of Tesla (TSLA) shares to fall, a company of which he is the chief executive officer.2018 Settlement with SEC MaintainedAccording to this agreement, Musk was fined $20 million, with an additional $20 million in financial penalties for Tesla.The serial entrepreneur also had to give up his title as Tesla's chairman, and a lawyer for the high-end electric vehicle manufacturer had to pre-approve his stock-related Tesla tweets before they were published.That position was quickly dubbed the \"Twitter sitter\" by the media, a moniker which has stuck.After accepting these terms, the billionaire recently escalated hostilities with the SEC, which he accuses of harassment and violating his free speech rights.It should be noted that it is in the name of the principles of free speech that Musk has said he wants to acquire Twitter.\"As Musk states, '[e]conomic duress is an equitable doctrine which comes into play upon the doing of a wrongful act which is sufficiently coercive to cause a reasonably prudent person faced with no reasonable alternative to succumb to the perpetrator’s pressure,'” Judge Lewis Limanwrotein his ruling on April 27.\"But Musk’s argument that the SEC acted wrongfully amounts to one sentence: 'In 2018, the SEC took advantage of the position in which it put Mr. Musk'.”\"That conclusory assertion is insufficient to sustain a finding of economic duress,\" Liman said.And then added: \"Musk was not forced to enter into the consent decree; rather, “for [his] own strategic purposes, [Musk], with the advice and assistance of counsel, entered into these agreements voluntarily, in order to secure the benefits thereof, including finality.”The judge insisted that \"Musk cannot now seek to retract the agreement he knowingly and willingly entered by simply bemoaning that he felt like he had to agree to it at the time but now — once the specter of the litigation is a distant memory and his company has become, in his estimation, all but invincible —wishes that he had not.\"Therefore, \"the motion to quash the subpoena and to terminate the consent decree is denied.\"Tweetgate And The 'Twitter Sitter'The battle between the richest man in the world and the SEC dates back to Aug. 7, 2018, or what is called the Tweetgate.On Aug. 7, 2018, Musk had written that he wanted to withdraw Tesla from the stock market at a price of $420 per share. Above all, he added that he had secured the financing for such a transaction.That day Musk surprised the market by posting the following message, \"Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.\"\"Nothing will ever change the truth which is that Elon Musk was considering taking Tesla private and could have,\" Alex Spiro, Mr Musk's lawyer told TheStreet in an emailed statement.\"All that's left some half decade later is remnant litigation which will continue to make that truth clearer and clearer.\"Rising Tensions with The SECThe SEC opened an investigation which resulted in a settlement in September 2018.Under the settlement, Tesla also committed to pre-approve any of Musk's tweets that might have a potential impact on the stock.For some shareholders the case is not closed — they have filed a class-action lawsuit, and the trial is set to begin on May 31.This lawsuit claims said they were financially harmed by Musk's tweet and that Musk lied by saying he had the necessary funds to finance the operation.Californian judge Edward Chensaidon the evening of April 15 that Musk's statement that he had secured the funding was false.But Tesla disclosed in a Feb. 7 regulatory filing that in November it had received a subpoena from the SEC requesting information related to the settlement.That accord had mandated that the company vet Musk's tweets on information that could weigh on the stock.The SEC also served Musk with a subpoena on Nov. 29 regarding a formal investigation into his Twitter activity. The subpoena prompted Musk to ask the judge to ditch the 2018 settlement.\"Musk may wish it were otherwise, but he remains subject to the same enforcement authority — and has the same means to challenge the exercise of that authority — as any other citizen,\" Liman said in his ruling.\"Indeed, to conclude otherwise would be to hold that a serial violator of the securities laws or a recidivist would enjoy greater protection against SEC enforcement than a person who had never even been accused of a securities law violation.\"A Renewal of Unfriendly FireThe new hostilities between Musk and the SEC relate to a poll organized by the businessman on his Twitter account last year.\"Much is made lately of unrealized gains being a means of tax avoidance, so I propose selling 10% of my Tesla stock. Do you support this?\" Musk posted on Twitter on Nov. 6, 2021.He continued: \"I will abide by the results of this poll, whichever way it goes.\"Since then, the two camps have been clashing again. Musk even suggested on Twitter that he was building a case against the regulator.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":78,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9060059465,"gmtCreate":1651073096668,"gmtModify":1676534844978,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Dun get me wrong, it's just a stupid move","listText":"Dun get me wrong, it's just a stupid move","text":"Dun get me wrong, it's just a stupid move","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9060059465","repostId":"2230432994","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2230432994","pubTimestamp":1651050041,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2230432994?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-27 17:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2230432994","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a positi","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>Tuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.</li><li>Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my intuition and research is telling me to make this change.</li><li>In the following piece, I will expound on why I have decided to take profits on my Tesla position and start a new position in Ford.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/924d44c1e072e2ad774acb68c4b49fe9\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>jetcityimage/iStock Editorial via Getty Images</span></p><p><b>What Happened?</b></p><p>Today, I took profits on my long-term position in Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford (NYSE:F). In the following sections, I will explain my reasoning for making this move.</p><p><b>You must take profits to make profits</b></p><p>I often quote my father, who was my mentor and an outstanding stockbroker. One of his mantras was &#34;You have to take profits to make profits.&#34; The meaning behind this is the fact it&#39;s all &#34;unrealized&#34; paper gains until you actually sell the security and transfer the proceeds into your checking account and/or into another investment. Further, he was very disciplined regarding when profits should be taken and why. Fortunately, I fell in love with my Tesla position and have held it way longer than my father ever would have, making it one of my most lucrative investments. Nevertheless, I endured several drawdowns over the years. Now, with Musk buying Twitter (TWTR) by pledging an additional $45 billion worth of Tesla shares, I have decided to take profits and sit this one out amongst other reasons. Let me explain.</p><p><b>Musk&#39;s highly leveraged Tesla position increases risk</b></p><p>Elon is buying a majority of Twitter by taking out a $49 billion margin loan against his Tesla shares. He already has pledged a substantial amount of Tesla shares previously, bringing his margin total to $89 billion. Further, Musk is the first lienholder on the Twitter position. He is on the hook for essentially the first $33 billion of Twitter, if by some chance they can&#39;t pay the bills.</p><p>Musk has already stated it&#39;s not about the money to him, so that doesn&#39;t necessarily give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about the prospects. Further, if for some unforeseen reason Tesla shares fall and Musk gets a margin call, that would be a major debacle. It has happened before. Nearly 10 years ago to the day, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters demoted its founder and chairman, Robert Stiller, and its lead director, William Davis, after the high-flying coffee company&#39;s share-price plunged forced the men into emergency stock sales resulting from margin calls. In fact, many companies have banned the practice at this point. Now, this is definitely a &#34;backburner&#34; type issue as Musk is constantly receiving new shares and options, yet it is there in the back of my mind. Further, I really don&#39;t find the new Cybertruck appealing. I like Ford&#39;s F150 Lightning pickup, which leads me to my next point.</p><p><b>The competition has finally arrived</b></p><p>The Ford F150 Lightning is now officially in production. I have done my research on the truck and I love it. Ford CEO Jim Farley said on Monday:</p><blockquote><i>The company is not joking around by saying the electric F-150 lightning could be as big a product for the automaker as the Model T back in 1908.</i></blockquote><p>I would have to agree. Ford plans to scale production of the F-150 Lightning even faster than competitors, with plans to boost manufacturing of the Lightning at a plant in Dearborn to 150,000 units in the next year, up from an initial target of 40,000 vehicles.</p><p>What&#39;s more, Ford has secured the lithium-ion batteries needed to meet its expected level of production of 150,000 units next year. Moreover, the company plans to prioritize supplies of semiconductor chips toward the F-150 Lightning.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c42cd5b5effe20ffbbd01bed01c0e3bc\" tg-width=\"617\" tg-height=\"389\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford F150 Lightning Pickup (Ford website)</span></p><p>The response has been so overwhelming, Ford is no longer taking retail reservations at this time. Additionally, Ford isn&#39;t the only competition. As I&#39;m sure you are aware, there is a plethora of new EV vehicle entrants into the race. The primary reason I&#39;ve chosen to switch from Tesla to Ford is the product. Secondarily, is valuation. Let me explain.</p><p><b>Two completely different animals when it comes to valuation</b></p><p>Tesla trades at 16 times sales while Ford currently trading at 0.47 times sales. Basically, making Ford the Rodney Dangerfield of EV players – “Ford don&#39;t get no respect!” Ha! Now, Tesla may very well deserve its elevated valuation based on its growth rate trajectory and the value of said future cash flows. Nonetheless, under the current Federal Reserve regime, the value of these future cash flows may be diminished greatly by inflation and increased interest rates. I am making a conscious effort to reduce my exposure to &#34;long-duration assets.&#34; Let me explain why Ford presents a better opportunity under current conditions.</p><p><b>Ford significantly undervalued</b></p><p>First of all, Ford is basically trading for a song at the present valuation. Ford&#39;s forward P/E of 6.57 is just over a third of the current S&amp;P 500 Forward P/E of 19.44. The stock is trading for 1.2 times book of $12.14. If ever there was a bargain basement buying opportunity in Ford, this is it.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1ecd5be52cd449328e56f792ebe9ad27\" tg-width=\"467\" tg-height=\"134\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford Fundamentals (Finviz)</span></p><p>On top of this, management has done an excellent job of cleaning up the balance sheet. The company maintains a fortress balance sheet with $11.63 per share in cash alone. This helps me not just sleep well, but sleep like a baby at night. Furthermore, the stock has sold off substantially since the start of the year and appears to me to be at an inflection point.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5faca498ac9117d6d6aebc61f4c22dea\" tg-width=\"278\" tg-height=\"389\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford 2022 Performance (Finviz)</span></p><p>With the stock trading for rock bottom pricing and having the weak hands thoroughly shaken out over the last few months by the insipid macro environment, I suggest now is an excellent time to start a position heading into earnings. One of my top investing mentors, Sir John Templeton&#39;s quote of &#34;Buy at the point of maximum pessimism&#34; seems quite apropos. The market just experienced a 7 to 1 advance/decline trading day today with 7 stocks down for every 1 stock up. This qualifies as a substantial washout in my book. The baby has definitely been thrown out with the bath water in my book. Furthermore, the Ford CEO Jim Farley is a salesman extraordinaire.</p><p><b>Ford CEO Jim Farley is special</b></p><p>Ford&#39;s CEO Jim Farley has personality for days and is extremely competitive. His statement that the Ford F150 Lightning will be bigger than the model T is the proof in the pudding of what I say. Not to mention the electrifying Ford Mustang Mach-E which definitely lives up to the hype.</p><p>Farley has captured the attention of all, rivaling the likes of P.T. Barnum in some ways, much like his famous cousin Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live, who I absolutely adored. Yet, don&#39;t get me wrong, he has the wherewithal and business acumen to back it up. His career in automobiles was inspired by his grandfather who began working for Ford in 1914. I have faith that Farley will be able to present the best case for the company on the upcoming earnings call. Ford is due to report earnings on April 27th after the close.</p><p><b>Ford Earnings Preview</b></p><p>The following table details Ford&#39;s expected earnings estimates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5856ccd7559c4442c6cfac6efae3d8\" tg-width=\"617\" tg-height=\"242\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>You can see that there have been six downward revisions over the last 90 days. With the stock down significantly going into earnings and expectations diminished, I see the company beating estimates and rising. Even so, the real focus will be on guidance, which has already &#34;quasi&#34; been announced with them revealing they will produce 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups rather than the original 40,000. I am expecting Ford to pop on earnings. This is why I made the move to sell Tesla and buy Ford ahead of the announcement. Nonetheless, I have only bought one-third of the position in order to reduce risk. In these situations where I have a positive outlook on earnings, I will divide the buys into thirds. One-third before earnings to gain a foothold, one-third after earnings, and one-third in reserve to buy on any future potential weakness. I always suggest layering into new positions over time to reduce risk. Now let&#39;s wrap it up.</p><p><b>Wrap up</b></p><p>I love Elon Musk and all that he has done for the country and the world frankly. Even so, adding Twitter to his endeavors in addition to Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, The Boring Company, and any others I may have forgotten, I think he may be reaching his limit. Further, he definitely has maxed out his Tesla margin credit card at this point, which gives me pause. Yet, the primary factor that sealed the deal for me was what I believe is Ford&#39;s superior product, the F150 Lightning, which I plan to buy as soon as available. On top of this, Ford&#39;s conservative valuation was a major selling point as well. The valuation factor is of particular import to me based on the recent change in the Federal Reserve&#39;s regime, from Dove to Hawk. And finally, I made this move in order to cash in and &#34;realize&#34; the substantial gains I had with my long-term Tesla position. I have held it in a tax advantaged account, so the capital gains created were not an issue for me. I bring this up because this transaction is particular to my unique situation. It may not be appropriate for all investors. That is why you should always consult a financial advisor before making any decisions regarding your investments. Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this article. I hope I provided some tidbit of value with this effort.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-27 17:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"F":"福特汽车","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2230432994","content_text":"SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my intuition and research is telling me to make this change.In the following piece, I will expound on why I have decided to take profits on my Tesla position and start a new position in Ford.jetcityimage/iStock Editorial via Getty ImagesWhat Happened?Today, I took profits on my long-term position in Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford (NYSE:F). In the following sections, I will explain my reasoning for making this move.You must take profits to make profitsI often quote my father, who was my mentor and an outstanding stockbroker. One of his mantras was \"You have to take profits to make profits.\" The meaning behind this is the fact it's all \"unrealized\" paper gains until you actually sell the security and transfer the proceeds into your checking account and/or into another investment. Further, he was very disciplined regarding when profits should be taken and why. Fortunately, I fell in love with my Tesla position and have held it way longer than my father ever would have, making it one of my most lucrative investments. Nevertheless, I endured several drawdowns over the years. Now, with Musk buying Twitter (TWTR) by pledging an additional $45 billion worth of Tesla shares, I have decided to take profits and sit this one out amongst other reasons. Let me explain.Musk's highly leveraged Tesla position increases riskElon is buying a majority of Twitter by taking out a $49 billion margin loan against his Tesla shares. He already has pledged a substantial amount of Tesla shares previously, bringing his margin total to $89 billion. Further, Musk is the first lienholder on the Twitter position. He is on the hook for essentially the first $33 billion of Twitter, if by some chance they can't pay the bills.Musk has already stated it's not about the money to him, so that doesn't necessarily give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about the prospects. Further, if for some unforeseen reason Tesla shares fall and Musk gets a margin call, that would be a major debacle. It has happened before. Nearly 10 years ago to the day, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters demoted its founder and chairman, Robert Stiller, and its lead director, William Davis, after the high-flying coffee company's share-price plunged forced the men into emergency stock sales resulting from margin calls. In fact, many companies have banned the practice at this point. Now, this is definitely a \"backburner\" type issue as Musk is constantly receiving new shares and options, yet it is there in the back of my mind. Further, I really don't find the new Cybertruck appealing. I like Ford's F150 Lightning pickup, which leads me to my next point.The competition has finally arrivedThe Ford F150 Lightning is now officially in production. I have done my research on the truck and I love it. Ford CEO Jim Farley said on Monday:The company is not joking around by saying the electric F-150 lightning could be as big a product for the automaker as the Model T back in 1908.I would have to agree. Ford plans to scale production of the F-150 Lightning even faster than competitors, with plans to boost manufacturing of the Lightning at a plant in Dearborn to 150,000 units in the next year, up from an initial target of 40,000 vehicles.What's more, Ford has secured the lithium-ion batteries needed to meet its expected level of production of 150,000 units next year. Moreover, the company plans to prioritize supplies of semiconductor chips toward the F-150 Lightning.Ford F150 Lightning Pickup (Ford website)The response has been so overwhelming, Ford is no longer taking retail reservations at this time. Additionally, Ford isn't the only competition. As I'm sure you are aware, there is a plethora of new EV vehicle entrants into the race. The primary reason I've chosen to switch from Tesla to Ford is the product. Secondarily, is valuation. Let me explain.Two completely different animals when it comes to valuationTesla trades at 16 times sales while Ford currently trading at 0.47 times sales. Basically, making Ford the Rodney Dangerfield of EV players – “Ford don't get no respect!” Ha! Now, Tesla may very well deserve its elevated valuation based on its growth rate trajectory and the value of said future cash flows. Nonetheless, under the current Federal Reserve regime, the value of these future cash flows may be diminished greatly by inflation and increased interest rates. I am making a conscious effort to reduce my exposure to \"long-duration assets.\" Let me explain why Ford presents a better opportunity under current conditions.Ford significantly undervaluedFirst of all, Ford is basically trading for a song at the present valuation. Ford's forward P/E of 6.57 is just over a third of the current S&P 500 Forward P/E of 19.44. The stock is trading for 1.2 times book of $12.14. If ever there was a bargain basement buying opportunity in Ford, this is it.Ford Fundamentals (Finviz)On top of this, management has done an excellent job of cleaning up the balance sheet. The company maintains a fortress balance sheet with $11.63 per share in cash alone. This helps me not just sleep well, but sleep like a baby at night. Furthermore, the stock has sold off substantially since the start of the year and appears to me to be at an inflection point.Ford 2022 Performance (Finviz)With the stock trading for rock bottom pricing and having the weak hands thoroughly shaken out over the last few months by the insipid macro environment, I suggest now is an excellent time to start a position heading into earnings. One of my top investing mentors, Sir John Templeton's quote of \"Buy at the point of maximum pessimism\" seems quite apropos. The market just experienced a 7 to 1 advance/decline trading day today with 7 stocks down for every 1 stock up. This qualifies as a substantial washout in my book. The baby has definitely been thrown out with the bath water in my book. Furthermore, the Ford CEO Jim Farley is a salesman extraordinaire.Ford CEO Jim Farley is specialFord's CEO Jim Farley has personality for days and is extremely competitive. His statement that the Ford F150 Lightning will be bigger than the model T is the proof in the pudding of what I say. Not to mention the electrifying Ford Mustang Mach-E which definitely lives up to the hype.Farley has captured the attention of all, rivaling the likes of P.T. Barnum in some ways, much like his famous cousin Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live, who I absolutely adored. Yet, don't get me wrong, he has the wherewithal and business acumen to back it up. His career in automobiles was inspired by his grandfather who began working for Ford in 1914. I have faith that Farley will be able to present the best case for the company on the upcoming earnings call. Ford is due to report earnings on April 27th after the close.Ford Earnings PreviewThe following table details Ford's expected earnings estimates.Seeking AlphaYou can see that there have been six downward revisions over the last 90 days. With the stock down significantly going into earnings and expectations diminished, I see the company beating estimates and rising. Even so, the real focus will be on guidance, which has already \"quasi\" been announced with them revealing they will produce 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups rather than the original 40,000. I am expecting Ford to pop on earnings. This is why I made the move to sell Tesla and buy Ford ahead of the announcement. Nonetheless, I have only bought one-third of the position in order to reduce risk. In these situations where I have a positive outlook on earnings, I will divide the buys into thirds. One-third before earnings to gain a foothold, one-third after earnings, and one-third in reserve to buy on any future potential weakness. I always suggest layering into new positions over time to reduce risk. Now let's wrap it up.Wrap upI love Elon Musk and all that he has done for the country and the world frankly. Even so, adding Twitter to his endeavors in addition to Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, The Boring Company, and any others I may have forgotten, I think he may be reaching his limit. Further, he definitely has maxed out his Tesla margin credit card at this point, which gives me pause. Yet, the primary factor that sealed the deal for me was what I believe is Ford's superior product, the F150 Lightning, which I plan to buy as soon as available. On top of this, Ford's conservative valuation was a major selling point as well. The valuation factor is of particular import to me based on the recent change in the Federal Reserve's regime, from Dove to Hawk. And finally, I made this move in order to cash in and \"realize\" the substantial gains I had with my long-term Tesla position. I have held it in a tax advantaged account, so the capital gains created were not an issue for me. I bring this up because this transaction is particular to my unique situation. It may not be appropriate for all investors. That is why you should always consult a financial advisor before making any decisions regarding your investments. Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this article. 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Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)&nbsp;","listText":"The end is near for any auto company except for TSLA. Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)&nbsp;","text":"The end is near for any auto company except for TSLA. Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9086689434","repostId":"1105569285","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1105569285","pubTimestamp":1650468622,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1105569285?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-20 23:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is The End Near For Musk And Tesla?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105569285","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryDespite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable, ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Summary</p><ul><li>Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.</li><li>While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable, a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.</li><li>The hype around Musk’s stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead of Tesla.</li></ul><p>For years, Elon Musk has used hype to prop up Tesla’s stock. It’s worked so well that other companies have followed his lead. But now, we think the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. The attempted Twitter (TWTR) takeover is yet another example of Musk bullying his way into what he wants and underscores how his super-star status cannot always convince people to overlook his irreverent, reckless, and potentially illegal behavior. As the recent lawsuit againstMusk shows, he is not completely immune from the consequences of his actions. Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.</p><p><b>End of the Road for Musk</b></p><p>Most investors are keenly aware of Musk’s long history of making grand promises that don’t come true – the Roadster, the Semi, the Cybertruck, full-self driving (FSD) etc. – and at times are blatantly unethical, such as tweeting “funding secured” to go private, and pumping Doge coin. But now, we have evidence that he may have acted illegally in the way he reported his purchases of Twitter stock. Given the clear rules about how investors should report large stakes in public companies – like what Musk has in Twitter – this case seems straightforward: Musk broke the rules.</p><p>The next question is how severely he will be punished. If the past is any guide, regulators will not muster more than a slap on the wrist. The real question is how institutional investors will react to signs Musk has pushed the envelope too far.</p><p>Institutional investors own Tesla stock more often because they must, given its influence on their performance, than because they see it as a good investment. Any investor with a rigorous process can see the stock is ridiculously overvalued; so, you own it for the “Musk effect”. Accordingly, the institutional investors’ decision to sell Tesla stock will be based on when Musk’s outsized influence begins to wane.</p><p>We think that moment has come.</p><p><b>Musk Meets His Maker: Twitter</b></p><p>In our view, Musk’s repeated rule-breaking behavior has finally gone too far. Details of the case are still emerging, but Musk’s failure to disclose his more than 5% stake in Twitter arguably hurt investors who sold shares after he crossed that ownership threshold. Instead, Musk kept purchasing shares until reaching a 9% stake in Twitter before disclosing his position. The initial class-action lawsuit and the potential for more have finally gotten the attention of investors, if not regulators.</p><p>The poor reception Twitter’s employees gave the news of Musk’s stake is a very public rejection of his super-star influencer status and provide the first tangible evidence that maybe his star power has limitations. If a hostile takeover prompts a mass exodus of talent, then Musk might end up destroying the company in the process of buying it. That being said, the loudest voices in the company are not necessarily the most valuable.</p><p>As more people join lawsuits against Musk, and Twitter employees continue to express their mistrust of the company’s largest shareholder, institutional investors may seize this moment to quietly unload their shares of overvalued Tesla stock. Now is the time to sell because the price of the stock to this point has been more a reflection of Musk’s ability to draw an audience than any underlying fundamental value in the company.</p><p><b>Live by the Stunt, Die by the Stunt</b></p><p>Ultimately, it appears that as much as Twitter was the launch pad for Musk’s super influence powers, his failure thus far to win the publicity battle could mark the beginning-of-the-end of his super-star status.</p><p>Musk’s Twitter play, which is another in a long series of distractions, could end poorly for Musk. Instead of addressing Tesla’s issues, Musk appears to be attempting to position himself as a defender of free speech. The risk he faces is that instead of looking like a hero he looks more like a bully running an ego-driven takeover with little regard for the rules. While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable (more on this below), a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.</p><p>Tesla’s investors have not been impressed with Musk’s Twitter antics either, as the stock is down 11% since he announced his ownership in the social media giant. Likewise, the “Musk bump” in Twitter shares is likely to fade as investors realize the only value Musk brought was publicity, and not good publicity either. Although Twitter remains a popular platform, it has its own problems and suggestions such as removing a letter from its name can do more harm than good.</p><p><b>Why Haven’t Regulators Done Anything Before Now?</b></p><p>Tesla’s high stock price has, thus far, kept its CEO well beyond an arm’s length of regulators. Other executives in other times likely would have faced consequences for many of the things Musk has said and done. Today, Tesla’s high stock price indicates investors’ collective belief in Musk’s promises and protects Musk. Regulators don’t want to be accused of causing the company’s stock price to fall, thereby destroying the wealth of many investors and, as a result, footing the cost of defending against numerous shareholder lawsuits.</p><p>Furthermore, Musk can claim Tesla’s elevated stock price and the wealth it endows is what he needs to fulfill his outlandish promises over time. However, should Tesla’s stock price ever reflect realistic expectations for the company, authorities may feel emboldened to pursue legal or regulatory action against Musk and/or Tesla. Credible claims can be made for several offenses, including:</p><ul><li>stock and cryptocurrency manipulation</li><li>false advertising of Full Self Driving (FSD)</li><li>ignoring safety authorities</li><li>neglecting to file documentation on time related to his purchase of Twitter’s shares</li><li>and other claims of dubious veracity</li></ul><p><b>What Will Regulators Do When the Bubble Pops?</b></p><p>Musk has positioned himself as a pop-culture icon. Though society loves to build up celebrities, so too does it love tearing them down even more. Once Tesla’s stock price falls from its overly inflated levels, Musk will lose his cover that has protected him from all his unethical and arguably illegal behavior. Regulators are likely to come after Musk with knives out after all the humiliation they had to suffer at his hand.</p><p><b>Trouble on the Horizon</b></p><p>All the hype around Musk’s large stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead for Tesla. Of course, that is likely his goal. Below we discuss the fundamentals of Tesla’s business, which cannot be wished away or made irrelevant with hype.</p><p><b>Incumbents Are Catching Up:</b> Tesla’s first-mover advantage has long been cited as reason enough for investors to pile their money into the company. However, that advantage is gone, and in some cases turning into a lag. Ford (F), Rivian (RIVN), and General Motors (GM) aim to produce EV trucks in 2022, but Tesla will be on the sidelines until at least 2023 before launching its Cybertruck.</p><p>The rising competition from incumbents means the days of Tesla’s rising profitability could be numbered. For starters, 26% of the company’s GAAP earnings in 2021 were from the sale of regulatory credits, not from the underlying economics of making and selling vehicles and other ancillary services.</p><p>Once incumbents increase production of EVs they will need to purchase fewer credits from Elon. That means Tesla needs to actually start <i>selling</i> <i>cars</i>to make money. The catch-22 is that for the company to sell more cars, it first needs to increase its production capacity. If Tesla’s succeeds in selling more cars capital expenditure and working capital are primed to grow along with sales. Tesla needs to build economies of scale before it can benefit from them.</p><p><b>Market Share Losses Continue:</b> Incumbent automakers have entered the EV market with scale and are already taking market share from Tesla. Per Figure 2, Tesla’s share of global EV sales fell from 16% in 2019 to 14% in 2021.</p><p>Tesla’s share of the U.S. EV market fell from 79% in2020to 70% in2021. With light truck sales comprising more than three out of every four vehicles sold in the U.S. in January 2022, Tesla falling behind in truck EVs means its share of the U.S. market could fall further.</p><p><b>Figure 2: Tesla’s Share of the Global EV Sales</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bc4dd16dde86e1ab31f85bd8a2af4aee\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"260\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA Market Share Since 2019(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC, EV-volumes.com and Statista</p><p><b>Slow Start to 2022:</b>Though Teslaforecastedan at least 50% YoY rise in deliveries in 2022, the company is feeling the effects of supply chain problems – just like every other automaker. The company delivered 310,000 vehicles in the quarter, while consensus estimates were for 313,000.</p><p><b>Reverse DCF Math: Valuation Implies Tesla Will Own at Least 57% of the Global Passenger EV Market</b></p><p>Despite the increased competition, failure to meet delivery expectations, and diminutive share of the global EV market in 2021, Tesla’s valuation implies the company will own 57% of the global passenger EV market in 2030.</p><p>Even if Tesla increases the average selling price (ASP) per vehicle to $55K vs. ($49K in 2021), Tesla’s stock price at ~$1,100/share implies the firm will sell 15 million vehicles in 2030 versus ~936k in 2021. That figure represents 57% of the projected base case global EV passenger vehicle market in 2030 and the implied vehicle sales based on a lower ASP looks even more unrealistic.</p><p>To provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations reflected in Tesla’s stock price, we assume Tesla achieves profit margins 1.5x Toyota Motor Corp (TM) and triples its current auto manufacturing efficiency.</p><p>Per Figure 3, an $1,100/share price implies that, in 2030, Tesla will sell the following number of vehicles based on these ASP benchmarks:</p><ul><li>15 million vehicles – ASP of $55K (above average U.S. new car price of $47K in 2021)</li><li>7 million vehicles – ASP of $49K (equal to Tesla’s 2021 ASP[1])</li><li>21 million vehicles – ASP of $38K (equal to General Motors’ ASP[2] of $38K in 2021)</li></ul><p>If Tesla achieves those EV sales, the implied market share for the company would be the following (assuming global passenger EV sales reach 26 million in 2030, the base case projection from the IEA):</p><ul><li>57% for 15 million vehicles</li><li>64% for 17 million vehicles</li><li>83% for 21 million vehicles</li></ul><p>If we assume the IEA’s best case for global passenger EV sales in 2030, 47 million vehicles, the above vehicle sales represent:</p><ul><li>31% for 15 million vehicles</li><li>35% for 17 million vehicles</li><li>45% for 21 million vehicles</li></ul><p><b>Figure 3: Tesla’s Implied Vehicle Sales in 2030 to Justify $1,100/Share</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bad84793f241565c81ebb0d29b01242c\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"284\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA DCF Implied Vehicle Production(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p><b>Tesla Must Generate More Profits Than Apple For Investors to Make Money</b></p><p>Below are the assumptions we use in our reverse discounted cash flow model to calculate the implied production levels above.</p><p>Bulls should understand what Tesla needs to accomplish to justify ~$1,100/share:</p><ul><li>immediately achieve a 14% NOPAT margin (1.5x Toyota’s margin, which is the highest of the large-scale automakers we cover), compared to Tesla’s TTM margin of 8%) and</li><li>grow revenue by 32% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.</li></ul><p>In this scenario, Tesla generates <i>$811 billion</i> in revenue in 2030, which is 116% of the combined revenues of Toyota, Stellantis (STLA), Ford, General Motors, and Honda (HMC) over the past twelve months. Tesla must replace the U.S. auto industry before 2030 to justify current valuations.</p><p>This scenario also implies Tesla grows net operating profit after-tax (NOPAT) by 2,458% from 2021 to 2030. In this scenario, Tesla generates $112 billion in NOPAT in 2030, or 12% higher than Apple’s (AAPL) TTM NOPAT, which, at $100 billion, is the highest of all companies we cover, and 65% higher than Microsoft (MSFT), the second-highest. Those companies have intertwined themselves in the lives of consumers and businesses around the world, which seems an unlikely feat for Tesla at this point.</p><p><b>TSLA Has 46% Downside If Morgan Stanley Is Right About Sales</b></p><p>If we assume Tesla reaches Morgan Stanley’s estimate of selling 8.1 million cars in 2030 (which implies a 31% share of the global passenger EV market in 2030), at an ASP of $55k, the stock is worth just $542/share. Details:</p><ul><li>NOPAT margin improves to 14% and</li><li>revenue grows 27% compounded annually over the next decade, then</li></ul><p>the stock is worth just $547/share today – a 46% downside to the current price. See the math behind this reverse DCF scenario. In this scenario, Tesla grows NOPAT to $62 billion, or nearly 14x its 2021 NOPAT, and just 7% below Alphabet’s (GOOGL) 2021 NOPAT.</p><p><b>TSLA Has 80%+ Downside Even with 27% Market Share and Realistic Margins</b></p><p>If we estimate more reasonable (but still very optimistic) margins and market share achievements for Tesla, the stock is worth just $200/share. Here’s the math:</p><ul><li>NOPAT margin improves to 9% (equal to Toyota’s TTM margin) and</li><li>revenue grows by consensus estimates from 2022 to 2024 and</li><li>revenue grows 17% a year from 2025 to 2030, then</li></ul><p>the stock is worth just $200/share today – an 80% downside to the current price.</p><p>In this scenario, Tesla sells 7 million cars (27% of the global passenger EV market in 2030) at an ASP of $47K (average new car price in U.S. in 2021) and grows NOPAT by 24% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.</p><p>We also assume a more realistic NOPAT margin of 9% in this scenario, which is 1.3x higher than Toyota’s industry-leading five-year average NOPAT margin of 7%. Given the required capital requirements to fund manufacturing and match increased competition in the EV market, Tesla is unlikely to achieve and sustain a margin as high as 9% from 2022 to 2030. If Tesla fails to meet these expectations, then the stock is worth less than $200/share.</p><p>Figure 4 compares the firm’s historical NOPAT to the NOPAT implied in the above scenarios to illustrate just how high the expectations baked into Tesla’s stock price remain. For additional context, we show Toyota’s, General Motors’, and Apple’s TTM NOPAT.</p><p><b>Figure 4: Tesla’s Historical and Implied NOPAT: DCF Valuation Scenarios</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e43f865637ac4c84e8199df2b05d061\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA DCF Implied NOPAT(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p>Each of the above scenarios assumes Tesla’s invested capital grows 14% compounded annually through 2030. For reference, Tesla’s invested capital grew 49% compounded annually from 2011 to 2021 and 30% compounded annually since 2015.</p><p>An invested capital CAGR of 14% represents 1/3rdthe CAGR of Tesla’s property, plant, and equipment since 2011 and assumes the company can build future plants and produce cars 3x more efficiently than it has so far.</p><p>In other words, we aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation.</p><p><b>Tesla Won’t Be the Only One to Fall</b></p><p>Other meme stocks have taken pages from the Musk playbook and will likely suffer the same fate we expect Tesla to suffer once the game is up. GameStop (GME) promised to transform itself into an ecommerce powerhouse, yet the company continues to head in the opposite direction and earnings continue to disappoint. GameStop’s Core Earnings fell from -$200 million in fiscal 2021 to -$321 million in fiscal 2022.</p><p>Despite the company’s inability to quickly execute operational change, GameStop’s stock has remained well above a reasonable valuation thanks in part to announcing the launch of a marketplace for nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and partnerships with blockchain firms.</p><p>AMC Entertainment Holdings (AMC) has also run several Tesla-esque plays to prop up its stock. Indeed, the company’s CEO recently tweeted that the company is “playing on offense again” with its investment in a microcap gold mine. Before gold mines, the company got on the crypto bandwagon in 2021 by accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.</p><p>Beyond the repeated attempts at propping up their stocks, the fundamentally weak business models of Tesla, GameStop, and AMC Entertainment in highly competitive industries burn cash and continue to dilute shareholders whenever possible. Per Figure 5, despite combining for more than $1.1 trillion of market cap, Tesla, AMC Entertainment, and GameStop have a combined economic book value, our measure of the no growth value of a stock, of -$52 billion and -$4.3 billion of free cash flow over the past twelve months.</p><p><b>Figure 5: Meme Stock’s Market Cap, Economic Book Value &amp; FCF: TTM</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/add55782c8e6b0e8a891f84c9ec7421f\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"119\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Meme Stocks Market Cap, Economic Book Value, FCF(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p><i>This article originally published on April 14, 2022.</i></p><p><i>Disclosure: David Trainer, Kyle Guske II, and Matt Shuler receive no compensation to write about any specific stock, sector, style, or theme.</i></p><p>[1] Tesla’s ASP = (total automotive revenues – regulatory credits) / deliveries</p><p>[2] General Motors’ ASP = Vehicle, parts and accessories / wholesale vehicle sales</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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It’s worked so well that other companies have followed his lead. But now, we think the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. The attempted Twitter (TWTR) takeover is yet another example of Musk bullying his way into what he wants and underscores how his super-star status cannot always convince people to overlook his irreverent, reckless, and potentially illegal behavior. As the recent lawsuit againstMusk shows, he is not completely immune from the consequences of his actions. Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.End of the Road for MuskMost investors are keenly aware of Musk’s long history of making grand promises that don’t come true – the Roadster, the Semi, the Cybertruck, full-self driving (FSD) etc. – and at times are blatantly unethical, such as tweeting “funding secured” to go private, and pumping Doge coin. But now, we have evidence that he may have acted illegally in the way he reported his purchases of Twitter stock. Given the clear rules about how investors should report large stakes in public companies – like what Musk has in Twitter – this case seems straightforward: Musk broke the rules.The next question is how severely he will be punished. If the past is any guide, regulators will not muster more than a slap on the wrist. The real question is how institutional investors will react to signs Musk has pushed the envelope too far.Institutional investors own Tesla stock more often because they must, given its influence on their performance, than because they see it as a good investment. Any investor with a rigorous process can see the stock is ridiculously overvalued; so, you own it for the “Musk effect”. Accordingly, the institutional investors’ decision to sell Tesla stock will be based on when Musk’s outsized influence begins to wane.We think that moment has come.Musk Meets His Maker: TwitterIn our view, Musk’s repeated rule-breaking behavior has finally gone too far. Details of the case are still emerging, but Musk’s failure to disclose his more than 5% stake in Twitter arguably hurt investors who sold shares after he crossed that ownership threshold. Instead, Musk kept purchasing shares until reaching a 9% stake in Twitter before disclosing his position. The initial class-action lawsuit and the potential for more have finally gotten the attention of investors, if not regulators.The poor reception Twitter’s employees gave the news of Musk’s stake is a very public rejection of his super-star influencer status and provide the first tangible evidence that maybe his star power has limitations. If a hostile takeover prompts a mass exodus of talent, then Musk might end up destroying the company in the process of buying it. That being said, the loudest voices in the company are not necessarily the most valuable.As more people join lawsuits against Musk, and Twitter employees continue to express their mistrust of the company’s largest shareholder, institutional investors may seize this moment to quietly unload their shares of overvalued Tesla stock. Now is the time to sell because the price of the stock to this point has been more a reflection of Musk’s ability to draw an audience than any underlying fundamental value in the company.Live by the Stunt, Die by the StuntUltimately, it appears that as much as Twitter was the launch pad for Musk’s super influence powers, his failure thus far to win the publicity battle could mark the beginning-of-the-end of his super-star status.Musk’s Twitter play, which is another in a long series of distractions, could end poorly for Musk. Instead of addressing Tesla’s issues, Musk appears to be attempting to position himself as a defender of free speech. The risk he faces is that instead of looking like a hero he looks more like a bully running an ego-driven takeover with little regard for the rules. While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable (more on this below), a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.Tesla’s investors have not been impressed with Musk’s Twitter antics either, as the stock is down 11% since he announced his ownership in the social media giant. Likewise, the “Musk bump” in Twitter shares is likely to fade as investors realize the only value Musk brought was publicity, and not good publicity either. Although Twitter remains a popular platform, it has its own problems and suggestions such as removing a letter from its name can do more harm than good.Why Haven’t Regulators Done Anything Before Now?Tesla’s high stock price has, thus far, kept its CEO well beyond an arm’s length of regulators. Other executives in other times likely would have faced consequences for many of the things Musk has said and done. Today, Tesla’s high stock price indicates investors’ collective belief in Musk’s promises and protects Musk. Regulators don’t want to be accused of causing the company’s stock price to fall, thereby destroying the wealth of many investors and, as a result, footing the cost of defending against numerous shareholder lawsuits.Furthermore, Musk can claim Tesla’s elevated stock price and the wealth it endows is what he needs to fulfill his outlandish promises over time. However, should Tesla’s stock price ever reflect realistic expectations for the company, authorities may feel emboldened to pursue legal or regulatory action against Musk and/or Tesla. Credible claims can be made for several offenses, including:stock and cryptocurrency manipulationfalse advertising of Full Self Driving (FSD)ignoring safety authoritiesneglecting to file documentation on time related to his purchase of Twitter’s sharesand other claims of dubious veracityWhat Will Regulators Do When the Bubble Pops?Musk has positioned himself as a pop-culture icon. Though society loves to build up celebrities, so too does it love tearing them down even more. Once Tesla’s stock price falls from its overly inflated levels, Musk will lose his cover that has protected him from all his unethical and arguably illegal behavior. Regulators are likely to come after Musk with knives out after all the humiliation they had to suffer at his hand.Trouble on the HorizonAll the hype around Musk’s large stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead for Tesla. Of course, that is likely his goal. Below we discuss the fundamentals of Tesla’s business, which cannot be wished away or made irrelevant with hype.Incumbents Are Catching Up: Tesla’s first-mover advantage has long been cited as reason enough for investors to pile their money into the company. However, that advantage is gone, and in some cases turning into a lag. Ford (F), Rivian (RIVN), and General Motors (GM) aim to produce EV trucks in 2022, but Tesla will be on the sidelines until at least 2023 before launching its Cybertruck.The rising competition from incumbents means the days of Tesla’s rising profitability could be numbered. For starters, 26% of the company’s GAAP earnings in 2021 were from the sale of regulatory credits, not from the underlying economics of making and selling vehicles and other ancillary services.Once incumbents increase production of EVs they will need to purchase fewer credits from Elon. That means Tesla needs to actually start selling carsto make money. The catch-22 is that for the company to sell more cars, it first needs to increase its production capacity. If Tesla’s succeeds in selling more cars capital expenditure and working capital are primed to grow along with sales. Tesla needs to build economies of scale before it can benefit from them.Market Share Losses Continue: Incumbent automakers have entered the EV market with scale and are already taking market share from Tesla. Per Figure 2, Tesla’s share of global EV sales fell from 16% in 2019 to 14% in 2021.Tesla’s share of the U.S. EV market fell from 79% in2020to 70% in2021. With light truck sales comprising more than three out of every four vehicles sold in the U.S. in January 2022, Tesla falling behind in truck EVs means its share of the U.S. market could fall further.Figure 2: Tesla’s Share of the Global EV SalesTSLA Market Share Since 2019(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC, EV-volumes.com and StatistaSlow Start to 2022:Though Teslaforecastedan at least 50% YoY rise in deliveries in 2022, the company is feeling the effects of supply chain problems – just like every other automaker. The company delivered 310,000 vehicles in the quarter, while consensus estimates were for 313,000.Reverse DCF Math: Valuation Implies Tesla Will Own at Least 57% of the Global Passenger EV MarketDespite the increased competition, failure to meet delivery expectations, and diminutive share of the global EV market in 2021, Tesla’s valuation implies the company will own 57% of the global passenger EV market in 2030.Even if Tesla increases the average selling price (ASP) per vehicle to $55K vs. ($49K in 2021), Tesla’s stock price at ~$1,100/share implies the firm will sell 15 million vehicles in 2030 versus ~936k in 2021. That figure represents 57% of the projected base case global EV passenger vehicle market in 2030 and the implied vehicle sales based on a lower ASP looks even more unrealistic.To provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations reflected in Tesla’s stock price, we assume Tesla achieves profit margins 1.5x Toyota Motor Corp (TM) and triples its current auto manufacturing efficiency.Per Figure 3, an $1,100/share price implies that, in 2030, Tesla will sell the following number of vehicles based on these ASP benchmarks:15 million vehicles – ASP of $55K (above average U.S. new car price of $47K in 2021)7 million vehicles – ASP of $49K (equal to Tesla’s 2021 ASP[1])21 million vehicles – ASP of $38K (equal to General Motors’ ASP[2] of $38K in 2021)If Tesla achieves those EV sales, the implied market share for the company would be the following (assuming global passenger EV sales reach 26 million in 2030, the base case projection from the IEA):57% for 15 million vehicles64% for 17 million vehicles83% for 21 million vehiclesIf we assume the IEA’s best case for global passenger EV sales in 2030, 47 million vehicles, the above vehicle sales represent:31% for 15 million vehicles35% for 17 million vehicles45% for 21 million vehiclesFigure 3: Tesla’s Implied Vehicle Sales in 2030 to Justify $1,100/ShareTSLA DCF Implied Vehicle Production(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsTesla Must Generate More Profits Than Apple For Investors to Make MoneyBelow are the assumptions we use in our reverse discounted cash flow model to calculate the implied production levels above.Bulls should understand what Tesla needs to accomplish to justify ~$1,100/share:immediately achieve a 14% NOPAT margin (1.5x Toyota’s margin, which is the highest of the large-scale automakers we cover), compared to Tesla’s TTM margin of 8%) andgrow revenue by 32% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.In this scenario, Tesla generates $811 billion in revenue in 2030, which is 116% of the combined revenues of Toyota, Stellantis (STLA), Ford, General Motors, and Honda (HMC) over the past twelve months. Tesla must replace the U.S. auto industry before 2030 to justify current valuations.This scenario also implies Tesla grows net operating profit after-tax (NOPAT) by 2,458% from 2021 to 2030. In this scenario, Tesla generates $112 billion in NOPAT in 2030, or 12% higher than Apple’s (AAPL) TTM NOPAT, which, at $100 billion, is the highest of all companies we cover, and 65% higher than Microsoft (MSFT), the second-highest. Those companies have intertwined themselves in the lives of consumers and businesses around the world, which seems an unlikely feat for Tesla at this point.TSLA Has 46% Downside If Morgan Stanley Is Right About SalesIf we assume Tesla reaches Morgan Stanley’s estimate of selling 8.1 million cars in 2030 (which implies a 31% share of the global passenger EV market in 2030), at an ASP of $55k, the stock is worth just $542/share. Details:NOPAT margin improves to 14% andrevenue grows 27% compounded annually over the next decade, thenthe stock is worth just $547/share today – a 46% downside to the current price. See the math behind this reverse DCF scenario. In this scenario, Tesla grows NOPAT to $62 billion, or nearly 14x its 2021 NOPAT, and just 7% below Alphabet’s (GOOGL) 2021 NOPAT.TSLA Has 80%+ Downside Even with 27% Market Share and Realistic MarginsIf we estimate more reasonable (but still very optimistic) margins and market share achievements for Tesla, the stock is worth just $200/share. Here’s the math:NOPAT margin improves to 9% (equal to Toyota’s TTM margin) andrevenue grows by consensus estimates from 2022 to 2024 andrevenue grows 17% a year from 2025 to 2030, thenthe stock is worth just $200/share today – an 80% downside to the current price.In this scenario, Tesla sells 7 million cars (27% of the global passenger EV market in 2030) at an ASP of $47K (average new car price in U.S. in 2021) and grows NOPAT by 24% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.We also assume a more realistic NOPAT margin of 9% in this scenario, which is 1.3x higher than Toyota’s industry-leading five-year average NOPAT margin of 7%. Given the required capital requirements to fund manufacturing and match increased competition in the EV market, Tesla is unlikely to achieve and sustain a margin as high as 9% from 2022 to 2030. If Tesla fails to meet these expectations, then the stock is worth less than $200/share.Figure 4 compares the firm’s historical NOPAT to the NOPAT implied in the above scenarios to illustrate just how high the expectations baked into Tesla’s stock price remain. For additional context, we show Toyota’s, General Motors’, and Apple’s TTM NOPAT.Figure 4: Tesla’s Historical and Implied NOPAT: DCF Valuation ScenariosTSLA DCF Implied NOPAT(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsEach of the above scenarios assumes Tesla’s invested capital grows 14% compounded annually through 2030. For reference, Tesla’s invested capital grew 49% compounded annually from 2011 to 2021 and 30% compounded annually since 2015.An invested capital CAGR of 14% represents 1/3rdthe CAGR of Tesla’s property, plant, and equipment since 2011 and assumes the company can build future plants and produce cars 3x more efficiently than it has so far.In other words, we aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation.Tesla Won’t Be the Only One to FallOther meme stocks have taken pages from the Musk playbook and will likely suffer the same fate we expect Tesla to suffer once the game is up. GameStop (GME) promised to transform itself into an ecommerce powerhouse, yet the company continues to head in the opposite direction and earnings continue to disappoint. GameStop’s Core Earnings fell from -$200 million in fiscal 2021 to -$321 million in fiscal 2022.Despite the company’s inability to quickly execute operational change, GameStop’s stock has remained well above a reasonable valuation thanks in part to announcing the launch of a marketplace for nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and partnerships with blockchain firms.AMC Entertainment Holdings (AMC) has also run several Tesla-esque plays to prop up its stock. Indeed, the company’s CEO recently tweeted that the company is “playing on offense again” with its investment in a microcap gold mine. Before gold mines, the company got on the crypto bandwagon in 2021 by accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.Beyond the repeated attempts at propping up their stocks, the fundamentally weak business models of Tesla, GameStop, and AMC Entertainment in highly competitive industries burn cash and continue to dilute shareholders whenever possible. Per Figure 5, despite combining for more than $1.1 trillion of market cap, Tesla, AMC Entertainment, and GameStop have a combined economic book value, our measure of the no growth value of a stock, of -$52 billion and -$4.3 billion of free cash flow over the past twelve months.Figure 5: Meme Stock’s Market Cap, Economic Book Value & FCF: TTMMeme Stocks Market Cap, Economic Book Value, FCF(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsThis article originally published on April 14, 2022.Disclosure: David Trainer, Kyle Guske II, and Matt Shuler receive no compensation to write about any specific stock, sector, style, or theme.[1] Tesla’s ASP = (total automotive revenues – regulatory credits) / deliveries[2] General Motors’ ASP = Vehicle, parts and accessories / wholesale vehicle sales","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":175,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9086166777,"gmtCreate":1650422760934,"gmtModify":1676534721136,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"How not to do fundamental analysis[LOL]&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;&nbsp;Blinded by SBC, and where's&nbsp;snowflake's multiple?? 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HAHAHA","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9086166777","repostId":"1113337087","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1113337087","pubTimestamp":1650421203,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1113337087?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-20 10:20","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir Technologies: Still Pricey Despite Rapid Growth","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1113337087","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir Technologies has exhibited tremendous growth in recent years and management expects ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>Palantir Technologies has exhibited tremendous growth in recent years and management expects that trend to continue.</li><li>Palantir&#39;s cash flows are now robust and this is encouraging, and this should also continue to be the case moving forward.</li><li>But PLTR stock is pricey for value-oriented investors at the moment.</li><li>Growth investors who don&#39;t mind keeping a watchful eye on the company might find this appealing in the long run though.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1dd5b97056ed938a6a5450f3e16388d\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Michael Vi/iStock Editorial via Getty Images</span></p><p>National security has always been an important topic. But after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the need for data and the ability to process that data became clearer than it ever was before. One company that developed around that time with the focus ofproviding software for the intelligence community was Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR). Fast forward to today, and the enterprise is a behemoth in the market, boasting a market capitalization of $25.21 billion. Although the company has been subjected to significant volatility from a share price perspective as of late, management continues to expand the firm on both its top and bottom lines. At present, shares of the business are incredibly pricey. And because of that, investors should tread cautiously. But if management can achieve the targets they set, then it could still make for a reasonable investment for growth investors who are willing to hold on for the long haul. But value investors should tread cautiously given how shares are currently priced.</p><p><b>Palantir - A play on national security</b></p><p>In the eyes of many Americans, you cannot get more patriotic than supporting a firm that is dedicated to preserving the nation&#39;s national security. At the same time, companies like Palantir Technologies have become controversial because of the large portion of America&#39;s population that wishes to reduce human rights issues surrounding US immigration enforcement and privacy rights involving local police departments. Which side is right in this argument, or whether both sides have valid points, is less of a concern for investors than the fact that the firm has done well to establish itself as a valuable player in this market over the years. Although the company is largelyfocusedand has historically been focused on government clients, it does have a large degree of exposure to the commercial market. In 2021, for instance, 58% of the company&#39;s revenue came from its government operations. The remaining 42% was attributable to commercial clients.</p><p>Today, Palantir Technologies operates largely through three different software platforms that it developed over time. The first of these is called Palantir Gotham. Its emphasis is on enabling users to identify patterns that might be hidden within datasets that otherwise wouldn&#39;t be easily discernible to the naked eye. It also facilitates in the handing off of this information between analysts and operational users, helping, in effect, operators to plan and execute real-world responses to threats that the platform has identified. Though this platform does focus largely on serving the government, it is also available for commercial customers like those in the financial services industry when it comes to searching for potential fraud.</p><p>The next platform that Palantir Technologies developed is called Palantir Foundry. In essence, IT services organizations by taking their data and centralizing it in one place, with the end goal of allowing them to integrate and analyze that data all together. And finally, we arrive at Palantir Apollo. This particular feature involves the delivery, in a timely manner, of the company&#39;s software and updates across its other platforms. Initially, this platform was only available to government clients. But starting last year, the company made it available to commercial customers in order to empower them to securely deploy their own software as needed.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a24f2b41ef14110d61e14e1278212635\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"239\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Author - SEC EDGAR Data</span></p><p>Over the past three years, management has done exceptionally well to grow the company&#39;s operations. Back in 2019, for instance, the business generated revenue of just $742.6 million. This expanded to $1.09 billion in 2020 before surging to $1.54 billion last year. What&#39;s really impressive is that, despite its size, management expects the firm to continue expanding at a rapid pace for the foreseeable future. In fact, they currently forecast that revenue will continue to grow at an annualized rate of 30% or higher through at least the year 2025. Taking this at face value, this would imply revenue this year of about $2 billion, with revenue in 2025 totaling $4.40 billion.</p><p>How you determine the company&#39;s success on its bottom line would really depend on what you define as profitability. Taking the term ‘profitability’ literally, we would pay attention to net income. By this measure, Palantir Technologies has been a rather volatile company in recent years, as well as a business that simply fails to deliver. In each of the past three years, for instance, the business has generated a net loss. The loss in 2019 was $579.6 million. This ballooned to a loss of $1.17 billion in 2020 before narrowing to a loss of $520.4 million last year.</p><p>There are, of course, other ways to measure profitability. And when you consider that a rapidly growing enterprise like this is paying a significant amount to employees in the form of stock-based compensation, it&#39;s reasonable to look at these other metrics instead. Operating cash flow has been a bit better. In 2019, this was negative to the tune of $165.2 million. Although it worsened to $296.6 million in 2020, it eventually turned positive to the tune of $333.9 million last year. If we adjust for changes in working capital and certain one-time adjustments, it turned from a negative $306.4 million in 2019 to a positive $425.9 million last year. Another metric that warrants our attention is EBITDA. This also has followed a favorable trend, going from a negative $298.8 million in 2019 to a positive $488.3 million last year.</p><p>When it comes to the company&#39;s 2022 fiscal year, management has only provided one estimate that might help us figure out what kind of cash flow the business could generate. This refers to the adjusted operating margin for the enterprise. Management defines this as the company&#39;s operating income or loss, plus stock-based compensation, plus employer payroll taxes related to stock-based compensation, plus non-recurring direct listing charges. They anticipate this margin to be about 27% of the company&#39;s revenue. This would translate to a figure of about $541.2 million. Using the historical adjusted operating margin for the company, I found that it closely mirrors the company&#39;s adjusted operating cash flow and its EBITDA. Because of this, I feel like it&#39;s appropriate to use this as a proxy for both of those metrics.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/876ee90028107a59a91dbe8a57a436b2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"289\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Author - SEC EDGAR Data</span></p><p>Using this approach, we find that shares of Palantir Technologies are incredibly pricey at this point in time. Using the company&#39;s 2021 results, we find that it is trading at a price to operating cash flow multiple of 59.2. Meanwhile, the EV to EBITDA multiple of the company should be 46.3. If, instead, we rely on the 2022 estimates, these multiples are 46.6 and 41.8, respectively. To put the pricing of the company into perspective, I compared it to five other application software companies. Unfortunately, none of these are perfect comparables by any means. But they are probably the best we can get. On a price to operating cash flow basis, these companies ranged from a low of 30.5 to a high of 141.7. Three of the five companies were cheaper than Palantir Technologies. Using the EV to EBITDA approach, the range was from 30.2 to 12,559. In this scenario, two of the five companies were cheaper than our prospect.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3c2f6e4f1c2218ab5951c233850cadaa\" tg-width=\"924\" tg-height=\"470\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>As for the future, the fact that Palantir Technologies is expensive today but is likely fairly priced compared to similar firms, may not be an issue if management can continue growing the company at a rapid pace. To see why this is, I took management&#39;s guidance for revenue for the next few years and, using three different scenarios, priced the business from a price to operating cash flow basis and from an EV to EBITDA basis (again, using the adjusted operating margin as a proxy for both of these). In the first scenario, I assumed that the adjusted operating margin for the business would average the 27% that the company is forecasting for this year. In the second scenario, I&#39;m using the assumption that this margin grows to 30%. And in the final scenario, I assumed that the margin would grow to 35%. It should be mentioned that this margin has been historically volatile. In 2020, for instance, it was just 17%. And in 2021, it averaged 31%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9aa9ba5d9b1abd8c7b58c9a0f2287802\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"256\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Author</span></p><p>Using this approach, we find that shares do become cheaper over time. But how much cheaper and how rapidly is the magic question. Generally, using all three scenarios, shares look to be reasonably priced by the 2025 fiscal year. Though if the firm can continue rapid growth, the data for 2024 doesn&#39;t look all that bad either. What this means is that, in order for the company to ultimately be a valid prospect, the firm must maintain strong margins and achieve the growth targets management has set for it.</p><p><b>Takeaway</b></p><p>Based on the data provided, Palantir Technologies seems to be a quality company that is growing at a rapid pace. Having said that, shares of the business are not particularly cheap. Technically, I would argue that they look rather expensive right now, even though they might be fairly priced compared to similar firms. At the end of the day, the only investors who should buy into the company are those who don&#39;t mind volatility and who believe that management can achieve the targets set for it. Anybody who is value-oriented and does not want to rely on such strong growth would be wise to steer clear of the firm at this point in time. Although I can understand investors being bullish on the firm, I myself would not purchase it given my own, value-oriented, approach to investing.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir Technologies: Still Pricey Despite Rapid Growth</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir Technologies: Still Pricey Despite Rapid Growth\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-20 10:20 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4502078-palantir-stock-pricey-despite-rapid-growth><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryPalantir Technologies has exhibited tremendous growth in recent years and management expects that trend to continue.Palantir's cash flows are now robust and this is encouraging, and this should...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4502078-palantir-stock-pricey-despite-rapid-growth\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4502078-palantir-stock-pricey-despite-rapid-growth","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1113337087","content_text":"SummaryPalantir Technologies has exhibited tremendous growth in recent years and management expects that trend to continue.Palantir's cash flows are now robust and this is encouraging, and this should also continue to be the case moving forward.But PLTR stock is pricey for value-oriented investors at the moment.Growth investors who don't mind keeping a watchful eye on the company might find this appealing in the long run though.Michael Vi/iStock Editorial via Getty ImagesNational security has always been an important topic. But after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the need for data and the ability to process that data became clearer than it ever was before. One company that developed around that time with the focus ofproviding software for the intelligence community was Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR). Fast forward to today, and the enterprise is a behemoth in the market, boasting a market capitalization of $25.21 billion. Although the company has been subjected to significant volatility from a share price perspective as of late, management continues to expand the firm on both its top and bottom lines. At present, shares of the business are incredibly pricey. And because of that, investors should tread cautiously. But if management can achieve the targets they set, then it could still make for a reasonable investment for growth investors who are willing to hold on for the long haul. But value investors should tread cautiously given how shares are currently priced.Palantir - A play on national securityIn the eyes of many Americans, you cannot get more patriotic than supporting a firm that is dedicated to preserving the nation's national security. At the same time, companies like Palantir Technologies have become controversial because of the large portion of America's population that wishes to reduce human rights issues surrounding US immigration enforcement and privacy rights involving local police departments. Which side is right in this argument, or whether both sides have valid points, is less of a concern for investors than the fact that the firm has done well to establish itself as a valuable player in this market over the years. Although the company is largelyfocusedand has historically been focused on government clients, it does have a large degree of exposure to the commercial market. In 2021, for instance, 58% of the company's revenue came from its government operations. The remaining 42% was attributable to commercial clients.Today, Palantir Technologies operates largely through three different software platforms that it developed over time. The first of these is called Palantir Gotham. Its emphasis is on enabling users to identify patterns that might be hidden within datasets that otherwise wouldn't be easily discernible to the naked eye. It also facilitates in the handing off of this information between analysts and operational users, helping, in effect, operators to plan and execute real-world responses to threats that the platform has identified. Though this platform does focus largely on serving the government, it is also available for commercial customers like those in the financial services industry when it comes to searching for potential fraud.The next platform that Palantir Technologies developed is called Palantir Foundry. In essence, IT services organizations by taking their data and centralizing it in one place, with the end goal of allowing them to integrate and analyze that data all together. And finally, we arrive at Palantir Apollo. This particular feature involves the delivery, in a timely manner, of the company's software and updates across its other platforms. Initially, this platform was only available to government clients. But starting last year, the company made it available to commercial customers in order to empower them to securely deploy their own software as needed.Author - SEC EDGAR DataOver the past three years, management has done exceptionally well to grow the company's operations. Back in 2019, for instance, the business generated revenue of just $742.6 million. This expanded to $1.09 billion in 2020 before surging to $1.54 billion last year. What's really impressive is that, despite its size, management expects the firm to continue expanding at a rapid pace for the foreseeable future. In fact, they currently forecast that revenue will continue to grow at an annualized rate of 30% or higher through at least the year 2025. Taking this at face value, this would imply revenue this year of about $2 billion, with revenue in 2025 totaling $4.40 billion.How you determine the company's success on its bottom line would really depend on what you define as profitability. Taking the term ‘profitability’ literally, we would pay attention to net income. By this measure, Palantir Technologies has been a rather volatile company in recent years, as well as a business that simply fails to deliver. In each of the past three years, for instance, the business has generated a net loss. The loss in 2019 was $579.6 million. This ballooned to a loss of $1.17 billion in 2020 before narrowing to a loss of $520.4 million last year.There are, of course, other ways to measure profitability. And when you consider that a rapidly growing enterprise like this is paying a significant amount to employees in the form of stock-based compensation, it's reasonable to look at these other metrics instead. Operating cash flow has been a bit better. In 2019, this was negative to the tune of $165.2 million. Although it worsened to $296.6 million in 2020, it eventually turned positive to the tune of $333.9 million last year. If we adjust for changes in working capital and certain one-time adjustments, it turned from a negative $306.4 million in 2019 to a positive $425.9 million last year. Another metric that warrants our attention is EBITDA. This also has followed a favorable trend, going from a negative $298.8 million in 2019 to a positive $488.3 million last year.When it comes to the company's 2022 fiscal year, management has only provided one estimate that might help us figure out what kind of cash flow the business could generate. This refers to the adjusted operating margin for the enterprise. Management defines this as the company's operating income or loss, plus stock-based compensation, plus employer payroll taxes related to stock-based compensation, plus non-recurring direct listing charges. They anticipate this margin to be about 27% of the company's revenue. This would translate to a figure of about $541.2 million. Using the historical adjusted operating margin for the company, I found that it closely mirrors the company's adjusted operating cash flow and its EBITDA. Because of this, I feel like it's appropriate to use this as a proxy for both of those metrics.Author - SEC EDGAR DataUsing this approach, we find that shares of Palantir Technologies are incredibly pricey at this point in time. Using the company's 2021 results, we find that it is trading at a price to operating cash flow multiple of 59.2. Meanwhile, the EV to EBITDA multiple of the company should be 46.3. If, instead, we rely on the 2022 estimates, these multiples are 46.6 and 41.8, respectively. To put the pricing of the company into perspective, I compared it to five other application software companies. Unfortunately, none of these are perfect comparables by any means. But they are probably the best we can get. On a price to operating cash flow basis, these companies ranged from a low of 30.5 to a high of 141.7. Three of the five companies were cheaper than Palantir Technologies. Using the EV to EBITDA approach, the range was from 30.2 to 12,559. In this scenario, two of the five companies were cheaper than our prospect.As for the future, the fact that Palantir Technologies is expensive today but is likely fairly priced compared to similar firms, may not be an issue if management can continue growing the company at a rapid pace. To see why this is, I took management's guidance for revenue for the next few years and, using three different scenarios, priced the business from a price to operating cash flow basis and from an EV to EBITDA basis (again, using the adjusted operating margin as a proxy for both of these). In the first scenario, I assumed that the adjusted operating margin for the business would average the 27% that the company is forecasting for this year. In the second scenario, I'm using the assumption that this margin grows to 30%. And in the final scenario, I assumed that the margin would grow to 35%. It should be mentioned that this margin has been historically volatile. In 2020, for instance, it was just 17%. And in 2021, it averaged 31%.AuthorUsing this approach, we find that shares do become cheaper over time. But how much cheaper and how rapidly is the magic question. Generally, using all three scenarios, shares look to be reasonably priced by the 2025 fiscal year. Though if the firm can continue rapid growth, the data for 2024 doesn't look all that bad either. What this means is that, in order for the company to ultimately be a valid prospect, the firm must maintain strong margins and achieve the growth targets management has set for it.TakeawayBased on the data provided, Palantir Technologies seems to be a quality company that is growing at a rapid pace. Having said that, shares of the business are not particularly cheap. Technically, I would argue that they look rather expensive right now, even though they might be fairly priced compared to similar firms. At the end of the day, the only investors who should buy into the company are those who don't mind volatility and who believe that management can achieve the targets set for it. Anybody who is value-oriented and does not want to rely on such strong growth would be wise to steer clear of the firm at this point in time. 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I will unlock it.</p><p>/s/ Elon Musk</p><p>Elon Musk</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Twitter Shares Surged 12% after Musk Offered To Buy Twitter For $54.20 Per Share In Cash</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTwitter Shares Surged 12% after Musk Offered To Buy Twitter For $54.20 Per Share In Cash\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-04-14 18:15</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Twitter shares surged 12% after Musk offers to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f6ed2c95a9d2c6ee1ef56bc4eaf118be\" tg-width=\"871\" tg-height=\"842\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Elon Musk has offered to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, according to an updated 13D filing, Bloomberg News reports.</p><p>Musk offered to “acquire all of the outstanding Common Stock of the Issuer not owned by the Reporting Person for all cash consideration valuing the Common Stock at $54.20 per share.”</p><h2>The offer letter was disclosed in an SEC filing. Here is the letter:</h2><p>Bret Taylor</p><p>Chairman of the Board,</p><p>I invested in Twitter as I believe in its potential to be the platform for free speech around the globe, and I believe free speech is a societal imperative for a functioning democracy.</p><p>However, since making my investment I now realize the company will neither thrive nor serve this societal imperative in its current form. Twitter needs to be transformed as a private company.</p><p>As a result, I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, a 54% premium over the day before I began investing in Twitter and a 38% premium over the day before my investment was publicly announced. My offer is my best and final offer and if it is not accepted, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder.</p><p>Twitter has extraordinary potential. I will unlock it.</p><p>/s/ Elon Musk</p><p>Elon Musk</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TWTR":"Twitter"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1188043014","content_text":"Twitter shares surged 12% after Musk offers to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash.Elon Musk has offered to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, according to an updated 13D filing, Bloomberg News reports.Musk offered to “acquire all of the outstanding Common Stock of the Issuer not owned by the Reporting Person for all cash consideration valuing the Common Stock at $54.20 per share.”The offer letter was disclosed in an SEC filing. Here is the letter:Bret TaylorChairman of the Board,I invested in Twitter as I believe in its potential to be the platform for free speech around the globe, and I believe free speech is a societal imperative for a functioning democracy.However, since making my investment I now realize the company will neither thrive nor serve this societal imperative in its current form. Twitter needs to be transformed as a private company.As a result, I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, a 54% premium over the day before I began investing in Twitter and a 38% premium over the day before my investment was publicly announced. My offer is my best and final offer and if it is not accepted, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder.Twitter has extraordinary potential. 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However, little by little, bulls are showing up again. Could this be an inflection point and an opportunity to buy PLTR?</p><p>Software company Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is a retail-investor darling that has been cruelly punished since last year. Much of PLTR’s drop can be pinned on the high multiples at which the stock had been trading. Because it’s an aggressive, high-growth stock, recent macroeconomic events have been weighing heavily on Palantir&#39;s shares’ performance. Investors have been seeking more conservative positions with less interest rate exposure and moving away from riskier stocks like PLTR. Palantir needs to prove their fundamentals are in order to regain investors&#39; confidence.</p><p>It seems, however, that the first steps are being taken towards that end. And recently, more PLTR bulls have begun to come out of the woodwork on Wall Street. Could this be an indication that now is a favorable time to buy Palantir shares?</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5bdf217c9fadeb6eacfb8966767b0579\" tg-width=\"1240\" tg-height=\"661\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Figure 1: Palantir Stock: Bulls Are Showing Up, Is It Time To Buy?</span></p><p><b>A Bull Among Bears</b></p><p>The target of much skepticism from Wall Street, Palantir stock currently has a slightly bearish consensus rating coming from analysts. The average rating on the stock is a “hold.” Having dropped more than 60% from November of 2021 to March this year, however, Palantir shares’ reaching a more modest valuation may signal a good opportunity to invest in the company today.</p><p>This is precisely the narrative laid out by Piper Sandler analyst Weston Twigg, who started to cover Palantir a few weeks ago. He offered a “buy” rating and a price target of $15. According to Twigg, Palantir, which is now trading at 9-10x sales over the next twelve months, now has its multiples in line with other fast-growing software stocks.</p><p>But Twigg&#39;s bullishness stems not only from his valuation of PLTR. The analyst believes that Palantir combines software, artificial intelligence, and data into a powerful, central IT solution for both commercial and government clients. He also thinks that Palantir&#39;s annual revenue growth target of 30% is achievable, given its recent history of consistent results – in 2021 alone, Palantir posted an impressive 41% top-line growth.</p><p>Finally, the analyst sees Palantir’s sales and marketing growth initiatives paying off. The company is reporting more than 100% growth in U.S. commercial revenues in 2021, and it expects that revenue stream to double again this year. And in the near term, Palantir may benefit from increased government business, due to the fallout from Russia&#39;s war against Ukraine.</p><p>Some new bullishness on PLTR was seen coming from Morgan Stanley as well. Upgrading Palantir shares from “sell” to “hold,” analyst Keith Weiss set his fair price target on Palantir at $16. That’s a bit higher even than Piper Sandler&#39;s bullish price target. Weiss’s justification is also based on valuation. The analyst believes that Palantir’s unsustainable high operating margin seems to be priced into the stock after the massive sell-off that’s occurred since last November.</p><p>Plenty of bears are still holding strong, though. Many point to decelerating growth in Palantir’s government business segment. RBC Capital analyst Rishi Jaluria, who has a “sell” rating and a price target of $9 on Palantir, believes that government business is the company&#39;s strongest segment, and the slow down there remains a concern. Meanwhile, Citi analyst Tyler Radke, also offering a “sell” rating and setting a $10 price target, fears that if revenues from the government business do not improve, there’s a potential risk to PLTR’s guidance.</p><p><b>Is It Time To Buy The Dip?</b></p><p>March was a good month for Palantir that followed on the heels of several months of free-fall. Palantir shares closed up 12% for March, and they rose 30% from March 14 through to the beginning of April.</p><p>While the macro environment remains a concern, some investors are seeing huge potential in the cyber defense and software analytics sector. There’s plenty of room for short-term growth as demand for Palantir’s products increases on account of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.</p><p>Even though the markets still appear shaky, Palantir’s 60% drop since its all-time-highs in January of last year may indicate the stock has suffered enough from its stretched valuation. Currently trading at a P/E of 92x, the stock is still more than 360% above the sector average of 19x times, and the market is paying about 15x PLTR’s estimated 2022 revenue growth. But keep in mind that this is not unusual for a stock that is priced according to aggressive predicted growth.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s goal of annual revenue growth of 30% or more by 2025 seems to be in line with the latest reported results. In 2021, the company reported 41% growth and investments in sales and marketing teams should intensify growth for the next few years.</p><p>Even though PLTR has a negative EBITDA, much of this negativity is driven by the high costs of stock-based compensation. And the company’s high operating costs, another major concern for investors, seem to be reaching more reasonable levels. This trend is evidenced by the significant jump in operating margins Palantir experienced from 2020 to 2021 - that margin jumped from, 17% to 31% in just one year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d3a10586752194ee7389a0926aa6e2e\" tg-width=\"892\" tg-height=\"421\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Figure 2: Palantir&#39;s adjusted operating margin.</span></p><p>If Palantir continues to report solid revenues and healthier margins, its business should reach profitability in the not-too-distant future. And that would be a positive development for Palantir&#39;s shares.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir Stock: Bulls Are Showing Up, Is It Time To Buy?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir Stock: Bulls Are Showing Up, Is It Time To Buy?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-12 10:27 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.thestreet.com/memestocks/reddit-trends/palantir-stock-bulls-are-showing-up-is-it-time-to-buy><strong>TheStreet</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>With Palantir stock down sharply since this time last year, it seems the PLTR skeptics were winning on Wall Street. However, little by little, bulls are showing up again. Could this be an inflection ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/memestocks/reddit-trends/palantir-stock-bulls-are-showing-up-is-it-time-to-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/memestocks/reddit-trends/palantir-stock-bulls-are-showing-up-is-it-time-to-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105450836","content_text":"With Palantir stock down sharply since this time last year, it seems the PLTR skeptics were winning on Wall Street. However, little by little, bulls are showing up again. Could this be an inflection point and an opportunity to buy PLTR?Software company Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is a retail-investor darling that has been cruelly punished since last year. Much of PLTR’s drop can be pinned on the high multiples at which the stock had been trading. Because it’s an aggressive, high-growth stock, recent macroeconomic events have been weighing heavily on Palantir's shares’ performance. Investors have been seeking more conservative positions with less interest rate exposure and moving away from riskier stocks like PLTR. Palantir needs to prove their fundamentals are in order to regain investors' confidence.It seems, however, that the first steps are being taken towards that end. And recently, more PLTR bulls have begun to come out of the woodwork on Wall Street. Could this be an indication that now is a favorable time to buy Palantir shares?Figure 1: Palantir Stock: Bulls Are Showing Up, Is It Time To Buy?A Bull Among BearsThe target of much skepticism from Wall Street, Palantir stock currently has a slightly bearish consensus rating coming from analysts. The average rating on the stock is a “hold.” Having dropped more than 60% from November of 2021 to March this year, however, Palantir shares’ reaching a more modest valuation may signal a good opportunity to invest in the company today.This is precisely the narrative laid out by Piper Sandler analyst Weston Twigg, who started to cover Palantir a few weeks ago. He offered a “buy” rating and a price target of $15. According to Twigg, Palantir, which is now trading at 9-10x sales over the next twelve months, now has its multiples in line with other fast-growing software stocks.But Twigg's bullishness stems not only from his valuation of PLTR. The analyst believes that Palantir combines software, artificial intelligence, and data into a powerful, central IT solution for both commercial and government clients. He also thinks that Palantir's annual revenue growth target of 30% is achievable, given its recent history of consistent results – in 2021 alone, Palantir posted an impressive 41% top-line growth.Finally, the analyst sees Palantir’s sales and marketing growth initiatives paying off. The company is reporting more than 100% growth in U.S. commercial revenues in 2021, and it expects that revenue stream to double again this year. And in the near term, Palantir may benefit from increased government business, due to the fallout from Russia's war against Ukraine.Some new bullishness on PLTR was seen coming from Morgan Stanley as well. Upgrading Palantir shares from “sell” to “hold,” analyst Keith Weiss set his fair price target on Palantir at $16. That’s a bit higher even than Piper Sandler's bullish price target. Weiss’s justification is also based on valuation. The analyst believes that Palantir’s unsustainable high operating margin seems to be priced into the stock after the massive sell-off that’s occurred since last November.Plenty of bears are still holding strong, though. Many point to decelerating growth in Palantir’s government business segment. RBC Capital analyst Rishi Jaluria, who has a “sell” rating and a price target of $9 on Palantir, believes that government business is the company's strongest segment, and the slow down there remains a concern. Meanwhile, Citi analyst Tyler Radke, also offering a “sell” rating and setting a $10 price target, fears that if revenues from the government business do not improve, there’s a potential risk to PLTR’s guidance.Is It Time To Buy The Dip?March was a good month for Palantir that followed on the heels of several months of free-fall. Palantir shares closed up 12% for March, and they rose 30% from March 14 through to the beginning of April.While the macro environment remains a concern, some investors are seeing huge potential in the cyber defense and software analytics sector. There’s plenty of room for short-term growth as demand for Palantir’s products increases on account of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.Even though the markets still appear shaky, Palantir’s 60% drop since its all-time-highs in January of last year may indicate the stock has suffered enough from its stretched valuation. Currently trading at a P/E of 92x, the stock is still more than 360% above the sector average of 19x times, and the market is paying about 15x PLTR’s estimated 2022 revenue growth. But keep in mind that this is not unusual for a stock that is priced according to aggressive predicted growth.Palantir's goal of annual revenue growth of 30% or more by 2025 seems to be in line with the latest reported results. In 2021, the company reported 41% growth and investments in sales and marketing teams should intensify growth for the next few years.Even though PLTR has a negative EBITDA, much of this negativity is driven by the high costs of stock-based compensation. And the company’s high operating costs, another major concern for investors, seem to be reaching more reasonable levels. This trend is evidenced by the significant jump in operating margins Palantir experienced from 2020 to 2021 - that margin jumped from, 17% to 31% in just one year.Figure 2: Palantir's adjusted operating margin.If Palantir continues to report solid revenues and healthier margins, its business should reach profitability in the not-too-distant future. 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On Feb. 24, shares of the big data analytics company briefly dipped below $10 for the first time in more than a year, hitting a low of $9.74. Over the past month, though, PLTR has managed to mount a 35% comeback from that trough to trade in the low teens.</p><p>Part of the reason for renewed investor optimism is due to positive analyst coverage and the belief that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine could create additional demand for the company’s data analytics software. Palantir has experienced slowing growth in its bread-and-butter governmental business. But increased adoption of its technology by the U.S. and foreign governments amid heightened geopolitical tensions could help counter this trend.</p><p>While this may not be enough to send PLTR stock back to its highs, it could justify a partial recovery. However, shares still look overvalued and rising interest rates are likely to continue to put pressure on growth stocks. So, patient investors may get the chance to scoop up shares of Palantir in the single digits.</p><h2>Analysts Warm to Palantir Amid Geopolitical Conflict</h2><p>Success selling its platform to civilian and defense agencies is what put Palantir on the map. But as this market matured, the company become more dependent on expanding its commercial book of business in order to sustain a high rate of growth and the price of PLTR stock.  As growth slowed, shares faltered, falling 43% over the past 12 months.</p><p>However, as I mentioned above, increased geopolitical uncertainty may prove to be a positive for Palantir, leading to more business from governments.</p><p>This was one of the bullish factors cited by Piper Sandler’s Weston Twigg when he initiated coverage of PLTR stock earlier this month with an “overweight” rating and a $15 target. From the current price, that represents upside of around 14%.</p><p>Twigg noted that the company’s 41% revenue growth for 2021 and its expanding sales team bode well for continued growth. He said he believes Palantir can meet CEO Alex Karp’s forecast of 30% or more compounded annual growth through 2025. Additionally, Twigg said the recent sell-off in shares has made their valuation more attractive.</p><p>Morgan Stanley analyst Keith Weiss is also warming to PLTR stock. He upgraded shares to “equal weight” and raised his price target to $16. Weiss cried improving fundamentals and better visibility among his reasons for the upgrade.</p><p>Positive analyst coverage, along with the market-wide bounceback, helped PLTR stock stabilize and move higher in recent weeks. However, that doesn’t mean the extended sell-off in shares has finally come to an end.</p><h2>Why PLTR Stock Could Move Back Into the Single Digits</h2><p>If Palantir’s commercial sales growth remains strong and recent world events provide a boost to its government business, the company could deliver results that are in line with or above expectations.</p><p>But meeting expectations may not be enough to sustain Palantir’s valuation. Trading for around 13.4x estimated 2022 revenue and 60x forward earnings, it remains fairly high. Granted, not as sky-high as it was when PLTR stock traded in the $20s, $30s or $40s (during its days as a meme stock favorite).</p><p>Downside risk from here may not be substantial. After all, the company’s top line is projected to grow at around a 30% annual clip. It’s doubtful the market will let this stock fall to what could be considered a fire-sale valuation (an earnings multiple of under 30x). Instead, it may just be a matter of it giving back the gains from its recent war-related boost, and a little bit extra.</p><p>Let’s say shares fall back down to the high single digits to around $9 per share. At that price level, the stock’s forward valuation (45x) would take its high projected growth rate into account while at the same time factoring in uncertainties about its prospects of growing both its commercial and governmental businesses.</p><h2>The Bottom Line on PLTR Stock</h2><p>Up 26% in the past month, it may seem like Palantir shares have bottomed out, creating a buying opportunity. Yet, bottom fishers know that the time to buy in is when a stock is out of favor.</p><p>Recent bullishness in PLTR stock fueled by geopolitics will likely cool and valuation concerns will become top of mind again. Once this happens, shares could drop to a much better entry point for those bullish on Palantir’s long-term prospects.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Another Drop in Palantir Stock Isn’t Out of the Question</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAnother Drop in Palantir Stock Isn’t Out of the Question\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-24 14:26 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/03/another-drop-in-palantir-pltr-stock-isnt-out-of-the-question/><strong>investorplace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The Russia-Ukraine war and positive analyst coverage boosted PLTR stockGeopolitical conflict may help the company hit revenue growth targetsContinued valuation concerns could create an opportunity for...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/another-drop-in-palantir-pltr-stock-isnt-out-of-the-question/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/another-drop-in-palantir-pltr-stock-isnt-out-of-the-question/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1140733057","content_text":"The Russia-Ukraine war and positive analyst coverage boosted PLTR stockGeopolitical conflict may help the company hit revenue growth targetsContinued valuation concerns could create an opportunity for bottom fishersIn recent weeks, things have been looking up for Palantir Technologies’ (NYSE:PLTR) investors. On Feb. 24, shares of the big data analytics company briefly dipped below $10 for the first time in more than a year, hitting a low of $9.74. Over the past month, though, PLTR has managed to mount a 35% comeback from that trough to trade in the low teens.Part of the reason for renewed investor optimism is due to positive analyst coverage and the belief that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine could create additional demand for the company’s data analytics software. Palantir has experienced slowing growth in its bread-and-butter governmental business. But increased adoption of its technology by the U.S. and foreign governments amid heightened geopolitical tensions could help counter this trend.While this may not be enough to send PLTR stock back to its highs, it could justify a partial recovery. However, shares still look overvalued and rising interest rates are likely to continue to put pressure on growth stocks. So, patient investors may get the chance to scoop up shares of Palantir in the single digits.Analysts Warm to Palantir Amid Geopolitical ConflictSuccess selling its platform to civilian and defense agencies is what put Palantir on the map. But as this market matured, the company become more dependent on expanding its commercial book of business in order to sustain a high rate of growth and the price of PLTR stock.  As growth slowed, shares faltered, falling 43% over the past 12 months.However, as I mentioned above, increased geopolitical uncertainty may prove to be a positive for Palantir, leading to more business from governments.This was one of the bullish factors cited by Piper Sandler’s Weston Twigg when he initiated coverage of PLTR stock earlier this month with an “overweight” rating and a $15 target. From the current price, that represents upside of around 14%.Twigg noted that the company’s 41% revenue growth for 2021 and its expanding sales team bode well for continued growth. He said he believes Palantir can meet CEO Alex Karp’s forecast of 30% or more compounded annual growth through 2025. Additionally, Twigg said the recent sell-off in shares has made their valuation more attractive.Morgan Stanley analyst Keith Weiss is also warming to PLTR stock. He upgraded shares to “equal weight” and raised his price target to $16. Weiss cried improving fundamentals and better visibility among his reasons for the upgrade.Positive analyst coverage, along with the market-wide bounceback, helped PLTR stock stabilize and move higher in recent weeks. However, that doesn’t mean the extended sell-off in shares has finally come to an end.Why PLTR Stock Could Move Back Into the Single DigitsIf Palantir’s commercial sales growth remains strong and recent world events provide a boost to its government business, the company could deliver results that are in line with or above expectations.But meeting expectations may not be enough to sustain Palantir’s valuation. Trading for around 13.4x estimated 2022 revenue and 60x forward earnings, it remains fairly high. Granted, not as sky-high as it was when PLTR stock traded in the $20s, $30s or $40s (during its days as a meme stock favorite).Downside risk from here may not be substantial. After all, the company’s top line is projected to grow at around a 30% annual clip. It’s doubtful the market will let this stock fall to what could be considered a fire-sale valuation (an earnings multiple of under 30x). Instead, it may just be a matter of it giving back the gains from its recent war-related boost, and a little bit extra.Let’s say shares fall back down to the high single digits to around $9 per share. At that price level, the stock’s forward valuation (45x) would take its high projected growth rate into account while at the same time factoring in uncertainties about its prospects of growing both its commercial and governmental businesses.The Bottom Line on PLTR StockUp 26% in the past month, it may seem like Palantir shares have bottomed out, creating a buying opportunity. Yet, bottom fishers know that the time to buy in is when a stock is out of favor.Recent bullishness in PLTR stock fueled by geopolitics will likely cool and valuation concerns will become top of mind again. Once this happens, shares could drop to a much better entry point for those bullish on Palantir’s long-term prospects.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":350,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3479274803156147","authorId":"3479274803156147","name":"0billionaire","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/picture159","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"I agree with you, only in this way can we maintain the sustainable development of mankind.","text":"I agree with you, only in this way can we maintain the sustainable development of mankind.","html":"I agree with you, only in this way can we maintain the sustainable development of mankind."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9010790351,"gmtCreate":1648465474575,"gmtModify":1676534341026,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Article definitely coming from someone that don't understand foundry. But it's true that their sales and marketing hasn't been good. Will be looking out for big contributions from their recent and upcoming hires!!💪🏻💪🏻","listText":"Article definitely coming from someone that don't understand foundry. But it's true that their sales and marketing hasn't been good. Will be looking out for big contributions from their recent and upcoming hires!!💪🏻💪🏻","text":"Article definitely coming from someone that don't understand foundry. But it's true that their sales and marketing hasn't been good. Will be looking out for big contributions from their recent and upcoming hires!!💪🏻💪🏻","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9010790351","repostId":"1197498442","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1197498442","pubTimestamp":1648459223,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1197498442?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-28 17:20","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: It Has A Invisible Glass Ceiling?\t","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1197498442","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryIn my view, the more Palantir grows, the more it will attract public scrutiny over its influe","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>In my view, the more Palantir grows, the more it will attract public scrutiny over its influence.</li><li>Current prices seem to incorporate management&#39;s growth estimates.</li><li>Speculative investors might profit from hyped ticker volatility. However, fundamentally, PLTR doesn&#39;t offer an attractive risk/reward balance.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/be7105a0a2a4e7560a724e681e477dba\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Drew Angerer/Getty Images News</span></p><p><b>Investment Thesis</b></p><p>When it comes to trade-offs around complex questions such as individual privacy versus collective security, a person will always feel alienated from opinionated dogmatists assertively choosing one side over the other, whether they share the same opinion or not. The reason is that zealots often seem to disregard competing values surrounding such complex questions. In a letter filed to the SEC, Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) CEO states that the data-mining company &#34;have chosen sides,&#34; standing by its government clients &#34;when it is convenient, and when it is not.&#34; Albeit well-intentioned, PLTR&#39;s stance entangled the company in Washington&#39;s debates more than would have been necessary, alienating half of the political institution and perhaps the public. I wasn&#39;t surprised that Avril Haines, the former deputy director of the CIA, removed references to consulting work with the software vendor from her biography shortly after joining the Biden Campaign, as reported by The Intercept.</p><p>Mainstream media captures&#39; the public&#39;s perception of PLTR&#39;s controversial position in the following news headlines and excerpts:</p><blockquote>Palantir trades: Shares in the controversial data analytics company Palantir Technologies begin trading publicly on Wednesday. Financial Times,Sept 2020</blockquote><blockquote>Palantir Embraces Controversial US Government Contract Work - Bloomberg,August 2020</blockquote><blockquote>The U.K. government has ended a controversial data agreement with U.S. tech firm Palantir following criticism from privacy campaigners. CNBC,Sept 2021</blockquote><blockquote>Palantir, the controversial data company, makes its Wall Street debut. CNN,Sept. 2020</blockquote><blockquote>Palantir is not a consumer-facing company but its work has generated public protest. Financial Times,December 2019</blockquote><blockquote>Peter Thiel’s Secretive Data Giant Palantir. WSJ,February 2019</blockquote><p>This image will have a detrimental effect on the company&#39;s plans to become the &#34;default operating system for the government,&#34; a stated goal fully incorporated in its share price. For example, PLTR&#39;s COVID-19 contract to track vaccine and infection data reignited controversies over its work with the Trump administration on immigration executive orders described as &#34;cruel&#34;by human rights organizations,arbitrary, and not justified by The Supreme Court, and controversial in mainstream media (as mentioned above). Its co-founder&#39;s outspoken support for Trump and its CEO&#39;s libertarian views didn&#39;t help either. Several congress members wrote:</p><blockquote>Naturally, we have valid concerns on whether the existing surveillance framework Palantir has created to track and arrest immigrants will be supplemented by the troves of potentially personal health information contained within the HHS Protect platform</blockquote><p>The strong resistance from politicians to give too much power to PLTR despite the COVID crises (letter posted on the Washington Post on July 1, 2020) mirrors the deep-rooted concerns over PLTR&#39;s activities and values. I believe that it is reasonable to say that the bigger PLTR gets, the more it will attract public and private scrutiny over its influence, as happened with the COVID contract.</p><p>PLTR acknowledges that public image and news reports over its operations might harm its shares in SEC disclosures. I don&#39;t think management made enough effort to address this issue beyond its lobbying spending. The way PLTR is depicted on mainstream media challenges its ability to maintain government contracts and expand in the commercial sector, harming its valuation. For example, PLTR has consistently traded below peers with similar growth. Moreover, it lacks the safety net available for other companies, presented by M&amp;A prospects. Given the reputational challenges manifested in the news headlines listed above, I doubt that larger tech firms will line up if management deems M&amp;A is a preferred strategic option, touching on the voting power exclusively held by the company&#39;s three co-founders.</p><p>Finally, the inability of PLTR to penetrate the Fortune 500 market after nineteen years of operations mirrors the commercial sector&#39;s worries of being associated with PLTR, in the same way, that Avril Haines decided to delete references to her work with the company.</p><p><b>Competition</b></p><p>Listening to shareholders&#39; questions, one can&#39;t help but sense a distorted image held by some retail investors regarding PLTR&#39;s competitive stance. For example, one shareholder compares PLTR&#39;s market position to the influence of Microsoft&#39;s (MSFT) MS Office. One asked if PLTR has competitors at all? Some think the PLTR products are so unique that they don&#39;t have competitors.</p><p>PLTR faces intense competition, and its products are replaceable. In 2020, the Anti-money Laundering division of The Department of Justice &#34;DOJ&#34; replaced PLTR with DataWalk (DAT.WA), a small-cap, Polish software vendor.</p><p>Many confuse PLTR&#39;s rapid growth with product superiority. However, its high growth stems from its relatively low revenue base in a large market. In 2018, PLTR won a verdict against the government that now mandates Federal organizations to consider commercial software before attempting to build their own. This, benefits PLTR, but also many of its peers who have built-in software solutions such as Microsoft&#39;sSynapse, Oracle&#39;s (ORCL) Database, Cloudera&#39;s (CLDR) Enterprise Data Hub - part of KKR (KKR), Databricks Lakehouse Platform, IBM&#39;s (IBM) Netezza Performance Server, Neo4j, and NuoDB - part of Dassault Systèmes (OTCPK:DASTY), to name just a few.</p><p>PLTR lists several &#34;strengths&#34; to investors, most of which center around the design of its product, which, to its credit, offers an agile data analytics platform. The company also demonstrated exemplary execution, emphasizing working with IT departments before complicating implementation by incorporating end-users into the discussions. PLTR also reduced installation time, shrinking the sales life cycle. However, I believe each client has different design preferences, and I don&#39;t see PLTR as fundamentally superior to its peers.</p><p><b>Growth</b></p><p>Another sign of the market&#39;s failure to assessing PLTR is the market reaction to its EPS miss, which saw its ticker tumble 13% in mid-day trading. Long-term investors should focus on revenue and revenue per share instead of EPS and net income. PLTR&#39;s business model is profitable, as seen in its high gross margins, and its operating losses are temporarily resulting from its growth initiatives. If it chooses, the company can quickly become profitable simply by halting its growth initiatives, but this wouldn&#39;t be in the interest of long-term investors.</p><p>For example, R&amp;D expenditure mirror costs related to scaling its platform for its clients, signaling higher future revenue despite short-term pressure on net income. Similarly, Selling and Marketing costs mirror expenses related to pilot programs which also reflect an interest in the company&#39;s products.</p><p>I believe that PLTR will continue to grow in the next five years at a decreasing rate. The company increased sales by $450 million in 2021; $287 million from government contracts awarded in previous periods, while the remaining $162 million is growth in its commercial segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9b9153c643474d5c4458bafa60c64038\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"83\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>SEC Filings</span></p><p>These are solid growth figures, but concerns over management&#39;s ability to maintain these rates will continue suppressing the ticker. Management estimates that its revenue will exceed $4 billion in 2025, which translates to 30% annual growth.</p><p>As mentioned above, I don&#39;t believe that PLTR will ever become the default operating system for the government or the commercial sector. A 30% growth rate will translate to a 5% market share in 2026, at which point, more scrutiny over its influence will restrict its growth, similar to what happened when the Trump administration awarded PLTR the COVID-tracing contract.</p><p><b>Valuation</b></p><p>KKR bought CLDR last year for $5.3 billion. At the time of the Purchase, CLDR TTM revenue was close to PLTR&#39;s 2020 revenue of $1 Billion, valuing the company at a 5.3x Price/Sales ratio.</p><p>Using Price/Sales sheds light on valuation without engaging too much into PLTR&#39;s spending on growth initiatives, mirrored in the R&amp;D and Sales accounts. As mentioned above, these expenses are temporary, and given the stickiness of customers and low variable costs, Price/Sales offers a valuable tool for comparable valuation.</p><p>Applying the Price/Sales of 5.3x on PLTR 2021 annual results yields an $8 billion market cap valuation, much less than the current market cap of $23 billion. This overvaluation is also mirrored in Seeking Alpha Quant Score System, which rates PLTR &#34;D&#34; on valuation.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df2f7182f478a620c5b3c75828c82390\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"217\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>Even when considering growth, PLTR seems fully valued. Applying a 5.3x Price/Sales ratio on management&#39;s 2025 revenue estimates ($4.4 billion) translates to a $23 billion market cap, less than its current value. Thus, in my view, PLTR doesn&#39;t offer an attractive risk/reward balance.</p><p><b>How I Might be Wrong</b></p><p>Our thesis rests on the inability of PLTR to achieve the 30% growth target through 2025. However, if PLTR hits this target in the short run, the ticker might rise on investors&#39; optimism, contrary to our expectations.</p><p>The challenge in assigning a valuation to a particular ticker stem from the variability of price multiples. The growth-to-value rotation demonstrates this concept. Thus, a reverse in investors&#39; appetite for risk poses a risk for our hypothesis.</p><p>The increased geopolitical risks might increase demand for Gotham. However, this will enhance PLTR&#39;s image as a defense contractor, igniting controversies about immigrant child separation decrees during the Trump era.</p><p>Finally, news headlines that have often presented PLTR as a controversial company might change tone as the software vendor expands in the commercial sector, positively impacting valuation, making this analysis obsolete.</p><p><b>Summary</b></p><p>Current prices incorporate above-average valuation multiples, mirroring higher growth expectations beyond 2025. Nonetheless, this implies that at some point, PLTR will have a market share above 5% (based on $119 billion TAM) which I believe is the threshold where the company will face increased scrutiny over its influence on the public and private sectors, given the negative media coverage affecting its reputation. For this reason, I maintain a hold rating, noting that while some investors might profit from the stock volatility, I don&#39;t see the company offering an attractive risk/reward balance.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: It Has A Invisible Glass Ceiling?\t</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: It Has A Invisible Glass Ceiling?\t\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-28 17:20 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4498065-palantirs-invisible-glass-ceiling><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryIn my view, the more Palantir grows, the more it will attract public scrutiny over its influence.Current prices seem to incorporate management's growth estimates.Speculative investors might ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4498065-palantirs-invisible-glass-ceiling\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4498065-palantirs-invisible-glass-ceiling","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1197498442","content_text":"SummaryIn my view, the more Palantir grows, the more it will attract public scrutiny over its influence.Current prices seem to incorporate management's growth estimates.Speculative investors might profit from hyped ticker volatility. However, fundamentally, PLTR doesn't offer an attractive risk/reward balance.Drew Angerer/Getty Images NewsInvestment ThesisWhen it comes to trade-offs around complex questions such as individual privacy versus collective security, a person will always feel alienated from opinionated dogmatists assertively choosing one side over the other, whether they share the same opinion or not. The reason is that zealots often seem to disregard competing values surrounding such complex questions. In a letter filed to the SEC, Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) CEO states that the data-mining company \"have chosen sides,\" standing by its government clients \"when it is convenient, and when it is not.\" Albeit well-intentioned, PLTR's stance entangled the company in Washington's debates more than would have been necessary, alienating half of the political institution and perhaps the public. I wasn't surprised that Avril Haines, the former deputy director of the CIA, removed references to consulting work with the software vendor from her biography shortly after joining the Biden Campaign, as reported by The Intercept.Mainstream media captures' the public's perception of PLTR's controversial position in the following news headlines and excerpts:Palantir trades: Shares in the controversial data analytics company Palantir Technologies begin trading publicly on Wednesday. Financial Times,Sept 2020Palantir Embraces Controversial US Government Contract Work - Bloomberg,August 2020The U.K. government has ended a controversial data agreement with U.S. tech firm Palantir following criticism from privacy campaigners. CNBC,Sept 2021Palantir, the controversial data company, makes its Wall Street debut. CNN,Sept. 2020Palantir is not a consumer-facing company but its work has generated public protest. Financial Times,December 2019Peter Thiel’s Secretive Data Giant Palantir. WSJ,February 2019This image will have a detrimental effect on the company's plans to become the \"default operating system for the government,\" a stated goal fully incorporated in its share price. For example, PLTR's COVID-19 contract to track vaccine and infection data reignited controversies over its work with the Trump administration on immigration executive orders described as \"cruel\"by human rights organizations,arbitrary, and not justified by The Supreme Court, and controversial in mainstream media (as mentioned above). Its co-founder's outspoken support for Trump and its CEO's libertarian views didn't help either. Several congress members wrote:Naturally, we have valid concerns on whether the existing surveillance framework Palantir has created to track and arrest immigrants will be supplemented by the troves of potentially personal health information contained within the HHS Protect platformThe strong resistance from politicians to give too much power to PLTR despite the COVID crises (letter posted on the Washington Post on July 1, 2020) mirrors the deep-rooted concerns over PLTR's activities and values. I believe that it is reasonable to say that the bigger PLTR gets, the more it will attract public and private scrutiny over its influence, as happened with the COVID contract.PLTR acknowledges that public image and news reports over its operations might harm its shares in SEC disclosures. I don't think management made enough effort to address this issue beyond its lobbying spending. The way PLTR is depicted on mainstream media challenges its ability to maintain government contracts and expand in the commercial sector, harming its valuation. For example, PLTR has consistently traded below peers with similar growth. Moreover, it lacks the safety net available for other companies, presented by M&A prospects. Given the reputational challenges manifested in the news headlines listed above, I doubt that larger tech firms will line up if management deems M&A is a preferred strategic option, touching on the voting power exclusively held by the company's three co-founders.Finally, the inability of PLTR to penetrate the Fortune 500 market after nineteen years of operations mirrors the commercial sector's worries of being associated with PLTR, in the same way, that Avril Haines decided to delete references to her work with the company.CompetitionListening to shareholders' questions, one can't help but sense a distorted image held by some retail investors regarding PLTR's competitive stance. For example, one shareholder compares PLTR's market position to the influence of Microsoft's (MSFT) MS Office. One asked if PLTR has competitors at all? Some think the PLTR products are so unique that they don't have competitors.PLTR faces intense competition, and its products are replaceable. In 2020, the Anti-money Laundering division of The Department of Justice \"DOJ\" replaced PLTR with DataWalk (DAT.WA), a small-cap, Polish software vendor.Many confuse PLTR's rapid growth with product superiority. However, its high growth stems from its relatively low revenue base in a large market. In 2018, PLTR won a verdict against the government that now mandates Federal organizations to consider commercial software before attempting to build their own. This, benefits PLTR, but also many of its peers who have built-in software solutions such as Microsoft'sSynapse, Oracle's (ORCL) Database, Cloudera's (CLDR) Enterprise Data Hub - part of KKR (KKR), Databricks Lakehouse Platform, IBM's (IBM) Netezza Performance Server, Neo4j, and NuoDB - part of Dassault Systèmes (OTCPK:DASTY), to name just a few.PLTR lists several \"strengths\" to investors, most of which center around the design of its product, which, to its credit, offers an agile data analytics platform. The company also demonstrated exemplary execution, emphasizing working with IT departments before complicating implementation by incorporating end-users into the discussions. PLTR also reduced installation time, shrinking the sales life cycle. However, I believe each client has different design preferences, and I don't see PLTR as fundamentally superior to its peers.GrowthAnother sign of the market's failure to assessing PLTR is the market reaction to its EPS miss, which saw its ticker tumble 13% in mid-day trading. Long-term investors should focus on revenue and revenue per share instead of EPS and net income. PLTR's business model is profitable, as seen in its high gross margins, and its operating losses are temporarily resulting from its growth initiatives. If it chooses, the company can quickly become profitable simply by halting its growth initiatives, but this wouldn't be in the interest of long-term investors.For example, R&D expenditure mirror costs related to scaling its platform for its clients, signaling higher future revenue despite short-term pressure on net income. Similarly, Selling and Marketing costs mirror expenses related to pilot programs which also reflect an interest in the company's products.I believe that PLTR will continue to grow in the next five years at a decreasing rate. The company increased sales by $450 million in 2021; $287 million from government contracts awarded in previous periods, while the remaining $162 million is growth in its commercial segment.SEC FilingsThese are solid growth figures, but concerns over management's ability to maintain these rates will continue suppressing the ticker. Management estimates that its revenue will exceed $4 billion in 2025, which translates to 30% annual growth.As mentioned above, I don't believe that PLTR will ever become the default operating system for the government or the commercial sector. A 30% growth rate will translate to a 5% market share in 2026, at which point, more scrutiny over its influence will restrict its growth, similar to what happened when the Trump administration awarded PLTR the COVID-tracing contract.ValuationKKR bought CLDR last year for $5.3 billion. At the time of the Purchase, CLDR TTM revenue was close to PLTR's 2020 revenue of $1 Billion, valuing the company at a 5.3x Price/Sales ratio.Using Price/Sales sheds light on valuation without engaging too much into PLTR's spending on growth initiatives, mirrored in the R&D and Sales accounts. As mentioned above, these expenses are temporary, and given the stickiness of customers and low variable costs, Price/Sales offers a valuable tool for comparable valuation.Applying the Price/Sales of 5.3x on PLTR 2021 annual results yields an $8 billion market cap valuation, much less than the current market cap of $23 billion. This overvaluation is also mirrored in Seeking Alpha Quant Score System, which rates PLTR \"D\" on valuation.Seeking AlphaEven when considering growth, PLTR seems fully valued. Applying a 5.3x Price/Sales ratio on management's 2025 revenue estimates ($4.4 billion) translates to a $23 billion market cap, less than its current value. Thus, in my view, PLTR doesn't offer an attractive risk/reward balance.How I Might be WrongOur thesis rests on the inability of PLTR to achieve the 30% growth target through 2025. However, if PLTR hits this target in the short run, the ticker might rise on investors' optimism, contrary to our expectations.The challenge in assigning a valuation to a particular ticker stem from the variability of price multiples. The growth-to-value rotation demonstrates this concept. Thus, a reverse in investors' appetite for risk poses a risk for our hypothesis.The increased geopolitical risks might increase demand for Gotham. However, this will enhance PLTR's image as a defense contractor, igniting controversies about immigrant child separation decrees during the Trump era.Finally, news headlines that have often presented PLTR as a controversial company might change tone as the software vendor expands in the commercial sector, positively impacting valuation, making this analysis obsolete.SummaryCurrent prices incorporate above-average valuation multiples, mirroring higher growth expectations beyond 2025. Nonetheless, this implies that at some point, PLTR will have a market share above 5% (based on $119 billion TAM) which I believe is the threshold where the company will face increased scrutiny over its influence on the public and private sectors, given the negative media coverage affecting its reputation. 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Some of its biggest holdings include Square, Zillow, Pinterest, PayPal and Alibaba. Net assets for the fund are currently $2.2 billion. There was one notable trade in this fund: NO TRADES</p><p>ARK Genomic Revolution ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKG) looks at companies across multiple industries, but the general focus is on health care and companies that are changing the game technologically in this field. The biggest holdings are Pacific Biosciences, Teladoc Health, CRISPR and Fate Therapeutics. Net assets for the fund are currently $5.1 billion. Here are some notable trades in this fund: Buy 26,361 shares of Adaptive Biotechnologies, Buy 221,118 shares of Somalogic, Buy 114,371 shares of Twist Bioscience, &amp; Buy 150,051 shares of Burning Rock Biotech.</p><p>ARK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKK) has a particular focus on disruptive innovation across multiple industries, but primarily tech. Some of the biggest names are in this fund, including Tesla, Roku, Square, Zillow and Spotify. Net assets for this fund are currently $16.2 billion. Here are some notable trades in this fund: Buy 80,300 shares of Coinbase &amp; Sell 381,951 shares of Twist Bioscience.</p><p>ARK Autonomous Technology &amp; Robotics ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKQ) is focused, unsurprisingly, on companies that are in the field of autonomous technology and robotics, specifically ones that are disruptively innovating. Big names in this fund include Tesla, Alphabet, JD.com, Baidu and Iridium. Net assets for this fund are currently $2.2 billion. Here are some notable trades in the fund: Buy 4,979 shares of BYD &amp; Sell 5,666 shares of Aerovironment.</p><p>ARK Next Generation Internet ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKW) is focused on companies that are disruptively innovating within the theme of the next generation of the internet. Some names in this fund are similar to the others, including Tesla, Square, Grayscale Bitcoin Trust, Facebook and Snap. Net assets for this fund are currently $3.8 billion. Here are the notable trades in the fund: Buy 16,291 shares of Coinbase &amp; Sell 2,978 shares of Tesla.</p><p>Ark Space Exploration &amp; Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKX) is focused primarily on companies developing technology around spaceflight. Big names in this fund include Trimble, Kratos, Nvidia, Amazon and Iridium. Net assets for this fund are currently $468.9 million. There was one notable purchase in the fund: Buy 1,032 shares of Mynaric, Buy 35,979 shares of 3D Systems &amp; Sell 1,632 shares of Aerovironment.</p><p>Check out all the trades here:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/651209decb561a66997e1f3b8c2348f3\" tg-width=\"955\" tg-height=\"843\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p></body></html>","source":"lsy1620372341666","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood's ARK Invest Trades for 3/30: Buy Coinbase, Sell Tesla</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCathie Wood's ARK Invest Trades for 3/30: Buy Coinbase, Sell Tesla\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-31 09:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://247wallst.com/investing/2022/03/30/cathie-woods-ark-invest-trades-for-3-30/><strong>24/7 wall street</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Markets pulled back slightly on Wednesday after just reaching levels not seen since January.ARK Invest funds took the hit as well with losses across the board.ARKX performed the best out of the group,...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://247wallst.com/investing/2022/03/30/cathie-woods-ark-invest-trades-for-3-30/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","COIN":"Coinbase Global, Inc."},"source_url":"https://247wallst.com/investing/2022/03/30/cathie-woods-ark-invest-trades-for-3-30/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105560756","content_text":"Markets pulled back slightly on Wednesday after just reaching levels not seen since January.ARK Invest funds took the hit as well with losses across the board.ARKX performed the best out of the group, with a 0.8% loss on the day, while ARKF did the worst, down 3.8%.The ARK Fintech Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKF) deals mainly with up-and-coming fintech stocks, as the name suggests. Some of its biggest holdings include Square, Zillow, Pinterest, PayPal and Alibaba. Net assets for the fund are currently $2.2 billion. There was one notable trade in this fund: NO TRADESARK Genomic Revolution ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKG) looks at companies across multiple industries, but the general focus is on health care and companies that are changing the game technologically in this field. The biggest holdings are Pacific Biosciences, Teladoc Health, CRISPR and Fate Therapeutics. Net assets for the fund are currently $5.1 billion. Here are some notable trades in this fund: Buy 26,361 shares of Adaptive Biotechnologies, Buy 221,118 shares of Somalogic, Buy 114,371 shares of Twist Bioscience, & Buy 150,051 shares of Burning Rock Biotech.ARK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKK) has a particular focus on disruptive innovation across multiple industries, but primarily tech. Some of the biggest names are in this fund, including Tesla, Roku, Square, Zillow and Spotify. Net assets for this fund are currently $16.2 billion. Here are some notable trades in this fund: Buy 80,300 shares of Coinbase & Sell 381,951 shares of Twist Bioscience.ARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKQ) is focused, unsurprisingly, on companies that are in the field of autonomous technology and robotics, specifically ones that are disruptively innovating. Big names in this fund include Tesla, Alphabet, JD.com, Baidu and Iridium. Net assets for this fund are currently $2.2 billion. Here are some notable trades in the fund: Buy 4,979 shares of BYD & Sell 5,666 shares of Aerovironment.ARK Next Generation Internet ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKW) is focused on companies that are disruptively innovating within the theme of the next generation of the internet. Some names in this fund are similar to the others, including Tesla, Square, Grayscale Bitcoin Trust, Facebook and Snap. Net assets for this fund are currently $3.8 billion. Here are the notable trades in the fund: Buy 16,291 shares of Coinbase & Sell 2,978 shares of Tesla.Ark Space Exploration & Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA: ARKX) is focused primarily on companies developing technology around spaceflight. Big names in this fund include Trimble, Kratos, Nvidia, Amazon and Iridium. Net assets for this fund are currently $468.9 million. 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The move has done little to hurt PLTR stock.</p><p>It always amuses me when the business media freak out because some big shot is selling a large number of shares in a particular company. In this instance,<i>Benzinga</i> reported on March 10 that Wood took her holdings in Palantir from well over 30 million shares in February down to zero in approximately 13 trades.</p><p>I say this all the time. Investors of every description sell for many reasons. They buy for one.</p><p>If you own Palantir, do not let Wood’s decision affect your view of the company. In the end, you could be right, and she could be wrong. It happens more often than you think.</p><p>Trust your gut. Do not listen to others. That includes me. Here’s why.</p><table><tbody><tr><td><b>PLTR</b></td><td>Palantir Technologies</td><td>$12.89</td></tr></tbody></table><p><b>PLTR Stock Was Less Than 3% of Ark Invest Assets</b></p><p>Wood’s biggest exchange traded fund (ETF) by assets is the <b>ARK Innovation ETF</b>(NYSEARCA:<b>ARKK</b>). It has a turnover rate of 71%. That’s not high by active standards, but it’s high enough. Stocks are going to get sacrificed in the name of better returns. Clearly, Wood felt there was a better place for the estimated $360 million ($12 x 30 million shares).</p><p>ARKK currently has $12.48 billion in total net assets. That means PLTR accounted for 2.9% of the ETF’s portfolio. So if Wood still held, it would be the 15th largest position. But, of course, we know that some of Wood’s other ETFs held Palantir stock, so it held an even less critical role within Ark Invest.</p><p>According to <i>WhaleWisdom</i>, Ark Invest held 35.3 million shares worth $642.5 million at the end of the fourth quarter. They accounted for 1.95% of the $33.1 billion listed on its latest 13F filing.</p><p>If Wood sold her entire position in <b>Tesla</b>(NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>), that would be an entirely different situation. Ark Invest has held TSLA since the fourth quarter of 2016. That’s more than 60 months ago or so. Palantir only becam ea public company 19 months ago. The level of commitment is entirely different.</p><p><b>The Proper Course of Action</b></p><p>My<i>InvestorPlace</i>colleague, Larry Ramer, recently said the following about Wood’s departure from Palantir:</p><blockquote>[F]unds managed by Cathie Wood, who for over a year was by far the most visible cheerleader for the company, have sold all of their PLTR stock. When a stock’s most famous bull throws in the towel on it, most investors are not going to want to own the shares for a long time</blockquote><p>Listen, Wood might have been vocal in her support for Palantir, but that’s her schtick. She gets out in front to support the stocks that she owns. I have no problem with cheerleading. She’s done a great job of defending Tesla over the years.</p><p>However, if you think that Wood holds a candle to Peter Thiel’s commitment to Palantir — he owns almost 164 million shares — you haven’t followed the company’s story very closely.</p><p>Like Wood selling Tesla, Thiel unloading Palantir would be a big deal. But, of course, he owns so much it might take him several years to unwind profitably.</p><p>Regular retail investors should pay little attention to what billionaires and money managers are selling and focus on what they’re buying. That’s what matters.</p><p>PLTR Stock Is a Buy for Those Not Easily Influenced</p><p>I would suggest that Palantir is not a stock you should own if you are influenced by what Cathie Wood is selling. She’s irrelevant to your investment decision.</p><p>Instead, it would be best if you were asking yourself why you bought it in the first place. If your thoughts about the company aren’t much different from when you first acquired its shares, you shouldn’t worry about what Cathie Wood is doing. Her interests are entirely different from yours.</p><p>In my last article about Palantir, I said that Palantir was an excellent long-term buy in the teens. It’s dropped 29 cents in the six weeks since. I don’t believe anything has changed about its business. Its sales are growing, but it needs to scale to profitability. I think it will.</p><p>Maybe Cathie Wood doesn’t and that’s why she sold. I couldn’t care less.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Who Cares If Cathie Wood Sold All of Her Palantir Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWho Cares If Cathie Wood Sold All of Her Palantir Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-30 19:30 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/03/pltr-stock-who-cares-cathie-wood-sold-all-of-her-palantir-stock/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Ark Investment Management fully exited its Palantir Technologies(PLTR) position in March.Cathie Wood’s firm held more than 30 million shares in early February.The portfolio manager’s exit should not ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/pltr-stock-who-cares-cathie-wood-sold-all-of-her-palantir-stock/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/pltr-stock-who-cares-cathie-wood-sold-all-of-her-palantir-stock/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1183502529","content_text":"Ark Investment Management fully exited its Palantir Technologies(PLTR) position in March.Cathie Wood’s firm held more than 30 million shares in early February.The portfolio manager’s exit should not influence your decision about the company.Source: Spyro the Dragon / Shutterstock.comIt’s been a couple of weeks since star portfolio manager Cathie Wood fully unwound her company’s position in big data analytics firm Palantir Technologies(NYSE:PLTR). The move has done little to hurt PLTR stock.It always amuses me when the business media freak out because some big shot is selling a large number of shares in a particular company. In this instance,Benzinga reported on March 10 that Wood took her holdings in Palantir from well over 30 million shares in February down to zero in approximately 13 trades.I say this all the time. Investors of every description sell for many reasons. They buy for one.If you own Palantir, do not let Wood’s decision affect your view of the company. In the end, you could be right, and she could be wrong. It happens more often than you think.Trust your gut. Do not listen to others. That includes me. Here’s why.PLTRPalantir Technologies$12.89PLTR Stock Was Less Than 3% of Ark Invest AssetsWood’s biggest exchange traded fund (ETF) by assets is the ARK Innovation ETF(NYSEARCA:ARKK). It has a turnover rate of 71%. That’s not high by active standards, but it’s high enough. Stocks are going to get sacrificed in the name of better returns. Clearly, Wood felt there was a better place for the estimated $360 million ($12 x 30 million shares).ARKK currently has $12.48 billion in total net assets. That means PLTR accounted for 2.9% of the ETF’s portfolio. So if Wood still held, it would be the 15th largest position. But, of course, we know that some of Wood’s other ETFs held Palantir stock, so it held an even less critical role within Ark Invest.According to WhaleWisdom, Ark Invest held 35.3 million shares worth $642.5 million at the end of the fourth quarter. They accounted for 1.95% of the $33.1 billion listed on its latest 13F filing.If Wood sold her entire position in Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA), that would be an entirely different situation. Ark Invest has held TSLA since the fourth quarter of 2016. That’s more than 60 months ago or so. Palantir only becam ea public company 19 months ago. The level of commitment is entirely different.The Proper Course of ActionMyInvestorPlacecolleague, Larry Ramer, recently said the following about Wood’s departure from Palantir:[F]unds managed by Cathie Wood, who for over a year was by far the most visible cheerleader for the company, have sold all of their PLTR stock. When a stock’s most famous bull throws in the towel on it, most investors are not going to want to own the shares for a long timeListen, Wood might have been vocal in her support for Palantir, but that’s her schtick. She gets out in front to support the stocks that she owns. I have no problem with cheerleading. She’s done a great job of defending Tesla over the years.However, if you think that Wood holds a candle to Peter Thiel’s commitment to Palantir — he owns almost 164 million shares — you haven’t followed the company’s story very closely.Like Wood selling Tesla, Thiel unloading Palantir would be a big deal. But, of course, he owns so much it might take him several years to unwind profitably.Regular retail investors should pay little attention to what billionaires and money managers are selling and focus on what they’re buying. That’s what matters.PLTR Stock Is a Buy for Those Not Easily InfluencedI would suggest that Palantir is not a stock you should own if you are influenced by what Cathie Wood is selling. She’s irrelevant to your investment decision.Instead, it would be best if you were asking yourself why you bought it in the first place. If your thoughts about the company aren’t much different from when you first acquired its shares, you shouldn’t worry about what Cathie Wood is doing. Her interests are entirely different from yours.In my last article about Palantir, I said that Palantir was an excellent long-term buy in the teens. It’s dropped 29 cents in the six weeks since. I don’t believe anything has changed about its business. Its sales are growing, but it needs to scale to profitability. I think it will.Maybe Cathie Wood doesn’t and that’s why she sold. 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Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)&nbsp;","listText":"The end is near for any auto company except for TSLA. Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)&nbsp;","text":"The end is near for any auto company except for TSLA. Earnings coming. Here comes the beast :)","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9086689434","repostId":"1105569285","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1105569285","pubTimestamp":1650468622,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1105569285?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-20 23:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is The End Near For Musk And Tesla?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105569285","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryDespite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable, ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Summary</p><ul><li>Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.</li><li>While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable, a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.</li><li>The hype around Musk’s stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead of Tesla.</li></ul><p>For years, Elon Musk has used hype to prop up Tesla’s stock. It’s worked so well that other companies have followed his lead. But now, we think the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. The attempted Twitter (TWTR) takeover is yet another example of Musk bullying his way into what he wants and underscores how his super-star status cannot always convince people to overlook his irreverent, reckless, and potentially illegal behavior. As the recent lawsuit againstMusk shows, he is not completely immune from the consequences of his actions. Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.</p><p><b>End of the Road for Musk</b></p><p>Most investors are keenly aware of Musk’s long history of making grand promises that don’t come true – the Roadster, the Semi, the Cybertruck, full-self driving (FSD) etc. – and at times are blatantly unethical, such as tweeting “funding secured” to go private, and pumping Doge coin. But now, we have evidence that he may have acted illegally in the way he reported his purchases of Twitter stock. Given the clear rules about how investors should report large stakes in public companies – like what Musk has in Twitter – this case seems straightforward: Musk broke the rules.</p><p>The next question is how severely he will be punished. If the past is any guide, regulators will not muster more than a slap on the wrist. The real question is how institutional investors will react to signs Musk has pushed the envelope too far.</p><p>Institutional investors own Tesla stock more often because they must, given its influence on their performance, than because they see it as a good investment. Any investor with a rigorous process can see the stock is ridiculously overvalued; so, you own it for the “Musk effect”. Accordingly, the institutional investors’ decision to sell Tesla stock will be based on when Musk’s outsized influence begins to wane.</p><p>We think that moment has come.</p><p><b>Musk Meets His Maker: Twitter</b></p><p>In our view, Musk’s repeated rule-breaking behavior has finally gone too far. Details of the case are still emerging, but Musk’s failure to disclose his more than 5% stake in Twitter arguably hurt investors who sold shares after he crossed that ownership threshold. Instead, Musk kept purchasing shares until reaching a 9% stake in Twitter before disclosing his position. The initial class-action lawsuit and the potential for more have finally gotten the attention of investors, if not regulators.</p><p>The poor reception Twitter’s employees gave the news of Musk’s stake is a very public rejection of his super-star influencer status and provide the first tangible evidence that maybe his star power has limitations. If a hostile takeover prompts a mass exodus of talent, then Musk might end up destroying the company in the process of buying it. That being said, the loudest voices in the company are not necessarily the most valuable.</p><p>As more people join lawsuits against Musk, and Twitter employees continue to express their mistrust of the company’s largest shareholder, institutional investors may seize this moment to quietly unload their shares of overvalued Tesla stock. Now is the time to sell because the price of the stock to this point has been more a reflection of Musk’s ability to draw an audience than any underlying fundamental value in the company.</p><p><b>Live by the Stunt, Die by the Stunt</b></p><p>Ultimately, it appears that as much as Twitter was the launch pad for Musk’s super influence powers, his failure thus far to win the publicity battle could mark the beginning-of-the-end of his super-star status.</p><p>Musk’s Twitter play, which is another in a long series of distractions, could end poorly for Musk. Instead of addressing Tesla’s issues, Musk appears to be attempting to position himself as a defender of free speech. The risk he faces is that instead of looking like a hero he looks more like a bully running an ego-driven takeover with little regard for the rules. While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable (more on this below), a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.</p><p>Tesla’s investors have not been impressed with Musk’s Twitter antics either, as the stock is down 11% since he announced his ownership in the social media giant. Likewise, the “Musk bump” in Twitter shares is likely to fade as investors realize the only value Musk brought was publicity, and not good publicity either. Although Twitter remains a popular platform, it has its own problems and suggestions such as removing a letter from its name can do more harm than good.</p><p><b>Why Haven’t Regulators Done Anything Before Now?</b></p><p>Tesla’s high stock price has, thus far, kept its CEO well beyond an arm’s length of regulators. Other executives in other times likely would have faced consequences for many of the things Musk has said and done. Today, Tesla’s high stock price indicates investors’ collective belief in Musk’s promises and protects Musk. Regulators don’t want to be accused of causing the company’s stock price to fall, thereby destroying the wealth of many investors and, as a result, footing the cost of defending against numerous shareholder lawsuits.</p><p>Furthermore, Musk can claim Tesla’s elevated stock price and the wealth it endows is what he needs to fulfill his outlandish promises over time. However, should Tesla’s stock price ever reflect realistic expectations for the company, authorities may feel emboldened to pursue legal or regulatory action against Musk and/or Tesla. Credible claims can be made for several offenses, including:</p><ul><li>stock and cryptocurrency manipulation</li><li>false advertising of Full Self Driving (FSD)</li><li>ignoring safety authorities</li><li>neglecting to file documentation on time related to his purchase of Twitter’s shares</li><li>and other claims of dubious veracity</li></ul><p><b>What Will Regulators Do When the Bubble Pops?</b></p><p>Musk has positioned himself as a pop-culture icon. Though society loves to build up celebrities, so too does it love tearing them down even more. Once Tesla’s stock price falls from its overly inflated levels, Musk will lose his cover that has protected him from all his unethical and arguably illegal behavior. Regulators are likely to come after Musk with knives out after all the humiliation they had to suffer at his hand.</p><p><b>Trouble on the Horizon</b></p><p>All the hype around Musk’s large stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead for Tesla. Of course, that is likely his goal. Below we discuss the fundamentals of Tesla’s business, which cannot be wished away or made irrelevant with hype.</p><p><b>Incumbents Are Catching Up:</b> Tesla’s first-mover advantage has long been cited as reason enough for investors to pile their money into the company. However, that advantage is gone, and in some cases turning into a lag. Ford (F), Rivian (RIVN), and General Motors (GM) aim to produce EV trucks in 2022, but Tesla will be on the sidelines until at least 2023 before launching its Cybertruck.</p><p>The rising competition from incumbents means the days of Tesla’s rising profitability could be numbered. For starters, 26% of the company’s GAAP earnings in 2021 were from the sale of regulatory credits, not from the underlying economics of making and selling vehicles and other ancillary services.</p><p>Once incumbents increase production of EVs they will need to purchase fewer credits from Elon. That means Tesla needs to actually start <i>selling</i> <i>cars</i>to make money. The catch-22 is that for the company to sell more cars, it first needs to increase its production capacity. If Tesla’s succeeds in selling more cars capital expenditure and working capital are primed to grow along with sales. Tesla needs to build economies of scale before it can benefit from them.</p><p><b>Market Share Losses Continue:</b> Incumbent automakers have entered the EV market with scale and are already taking market share from Tesla. Per Figure 2, Tesla’s share of global EV sales fell from 16% in 2019 to 14% in 2021.</p><p>Tesla’s share of the U.S. EV market fell from 79% in2020to 70% in2021. With light truck sales comprising more than three out of every four vehicles sold in the U.S. in January 2022, Tesla falling behind in truck EVs means its share of the U.S. market could fall further.</p><p><b>Figure 2: Tesla’s Share of the Global EV Sales</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bc4dd16dde86e1ab31f85bd8a2af4aee\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"260\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA Market Share Since 2019(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC, EV-volumes.com and Statista</p><p><b>Slow Start to 2022:</b>Though Teslaforecastedan at least 50% YoY rise in deliveries in 2022, the company is feeling the effects of supply chain problems – just like every other automaker. The company delivered 310,000 vehicles in the quarter, while consensus estimates were for 313,000.</p><p><b>Reverse DCF Math: Valuation Implies Tesla Will Own at Least 57% of the Global Passenger EV Market</b></p><p>Despite the increased competition, failure to meet delivery expectations, and diminutive share of the global EV market in 2021, Tesla’s valuation implies the company will own 57% of the global passenger EV market in 2030.</p><p>Even if Tesla increases the average selling price (ASP) per vehicle to $55K vs. ($49K in 2021), Tesla’s stock price at ~$1,100/share implies the firm will sell 15 million vehicles in 2030 versus ~936k in 2021. That figure represents 57% of the projected base case global EV passenger vehicle market in 2030 and the implied vehicle sales based on a lower ASP looks even more unrealistic.</p><p>To provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations reflected in Tesla’s stock price, we assume Tesla achieves profit margins 1.5x Toyota Motor Corp (TM) and triples its current auto manufacturing efficiency.</p><p>Per Figure 3, an $1,100/share price implies that, in 2030, Tesla will sell the following number of vehicles based on these ASP benchmarks:</p><ul><li>15 million vehicles – ASP of $55K (above average U.S. new car price of $47K in 2021)</li><li>7 million vehicles – ASP of $49K (equal to Tesla’s 2021 ASP[1])</li><li>21 million vehicles – ASP of $38K (equal to General Motors’ ASP[2] of $38K in 2021)</li></ul><p>If Tesla achieves those EV sales, the implied market share for the company would be the following (assuming global passenger EV sales reach 26 million in 2030, the base case projection from the IEA):</p><ul><li>57% for 15 million vehicles</li><li>64% for 17 million vehicles</li><li>83% for 21 million vehicles</li></ul><p>If we assume the IEA’s best case for global passenger EV sales in 2030, 47 million vehicles, the above vehicle sales represent:</p><ul><li>31% for 15 million vehicles</li><li>35% for 17 million vehicles</li><li>45% for 21 million vehicles</li></ul><p><b>Figure 3: Tesla’s Implied Vehicle Sales in 2030 to Justify $1,100/Share</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bad84793f241565c81ebb0d29b01242c\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"284\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA DCF Implied Vehicle Production(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p><b>Tesla Must Generate More Profits Than Apple For Investors to Make Money</b></p><p>Below are the assumptions we use in our reverse discounted cash flow model to calculate the implied production levels above.</p><p>Bulls should understand what Tesla needs to accomplish to justify ~$1,100/share:</p><ul><li>immediately achieve a 14% NOPAT margin (1.5x Toyota’s margin, which is the highest of the large-scale automakers we cover), compared to Tesla’s TTM margin of 8%) and</li><li>grow revenue by 32% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.</li></ul><p>In this scenario, Tesla generates <i>$811 billion</i> in revenue in 2030, which is 116% of the combined revenues of Toyota, Stellantis (STLA), Ford, General Motors, and Honda (HMC) over the past twelve months. Tesla must replace the U.S. auto industry before 2030 to justify current valuations.</p><p>This scenario also implies Tesla grows net operating profit after-tax (NOPAT) by 2,458% from 2021 to 2030. In this scenario, Tesla generates $112 billion in NOPAT in 2030, or 12% higher than Apple’s (AAPL) TTM NOPAT, which, at $100 billion, is the highest of all companies we cover, and 65% higher than Microsoft (MSFT), the second-highest. Those companies have intertwined themselves in the lives of consumers and businesses around the world, which seems an unlikely feat for Tesla at this point.</p><p><b>TSLA Has 46% Downside If Morgan Stanley Is Right About Sales</b></p><p>If we assume Tesla reaches Morgan Stanley’s estimate of selling 8.1 million cars in 2030 (which implies a 31% share of the global passenger EV market in 2030), at an ASP of $55k, the stock is worth just $542/share. Details:</p><ul><li>NOPAT margin improves to 14% and</li><li>revenue grows 27% compounded annually over the next decade, then</li></ul><p>the stock is worth just $547/share today – a 46% downside to the current price. See the math behind this reverse DCF scenario. In this scenario, Tesla grows NOPAT to $62 billion, or nearly 14x its 2021 NOPAT, and just 7% below Alphabet’s (GOOGL) 2021 NOPAT.</p><p><b>TSLA Has 80%+ Downside Even with 27% Market Share and Realistic Margins</b></p><p>If we estimate more reasonable (but still very optimistic) margins and market share achievements for Tesla, the stock is worth just $200/share. Here’s the math:</p><ul><li>NOPAT margin improves to 9% (equal to Toyota’s TTM margin) and</li><li>revenue grows by consensus estimates from 2022 to 2024 and</li><li>revenue grows 17% a year from 2025 to 2030, then</li></ul><p>the stock is worth just $200/share today – an 80% downside to the current price.</p><p>In this scenario, Tesla sells 7 million cars (27% of the global passenger EV market in 2030) at an ASP of $47K (average new car price in U.S. in 2021) and grows NOPAT by 24% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.</p><p>We also assume a more realistic NOPAT margin of 9% in this scenario, which is 1.3x higher than Toyota’s industry-leading five-year average NOPAT margin of 7%. Given the required capital requirements to fund manufacturing and match increased competition in the EV market, Tesla is unlikely to achieve and sustain a margin as high as 9% from 2022 to 2030. If Tesla fails to meet these expectations, then the stock is worth less than $200/share.</p><p>Figure 4 compares the firm’s historical NOPAT to the NOPAT implied in the above scenarios to illustrate just how high the expectations baked into Tesla’s stock price remain. For additional context, we show Toyota’s, General Motors’, and Apple’s TTM NOPAT.</p><p><b>Figure 4: Tesla’s Historical and Implied NOPAT: DCF Valuation Scenarios</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e43f865637ac4c84e8199df2b05d061\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA DCF Implied NOPAT(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p>Each of the above scenarios assumes Tesla’s invested capital grows 14% compounded annually through 2030. For reference, Tesla’s invested capital grew 49% compounded annually from 2011 to 2021 and 30% compounded annually since 2015.</p><p>An invested capital CAGR of 14% represents 1/3rdthe CAGR of Tesla’s property, plant, and equipment since 2011 and assumes the company can build future plants and produce cars 3x more efficiently than it has so far.</p><p>In other words, we aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation.</p><p><b>Tesla Won’t Be the Only One to Fall</b></p><p>Other meme stocks have taken pages from the Musk playbook and will likely suffer the same fate we expect Tesla to suffer once the game is up. GameStop (GME) promised to transform itself into an ecommerce powerhouse, yet the company continues to head in the opposite direction and earnings continue to disappoint. GameStop’s Core Earnings fell from -$200 million in fiscal 2021 to -$321 million in fiscal 2022.</p><p>Despite the company’s inability to quickly execute operational change, GameStop’s stock has remained well above a reasonable valuation thanks in part to announcing the launch of a marketplace for nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and partnerships with blockchain firms.</p><p>AMC Entertainment Holdings (AMC) has also run several Tesla-esque plays to prop up its stock. Indeed, the company’s CEO recently tweeted that the company is “playing on offense again” with its investment in a microcap gold mine. Before gold mines, the company got on the crypto bandwagon in 2021 by accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.</p><p>Beyond the repeated attempts at propping up their stocks, the fundamentally weak business models of Tesla, GameStop, and AMC Entertainment in highly competitive industries burn cash and continue to dilute shareholders whenever possible. Per Figure 5, despite combining for more than $1.1 trillion of market cap, Tesla, AMC Entertainment, and GameStop have a combined economic book value, our measure of the no growth value of a stock, of -$52 billion and -$4.3 billion of free cash flow over the past twelve months.</p><p><b>Figure 5: Meme Stock’s Market Cap, Economic Book Value &amp; FCF: TTM</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/add55782c8e6b0e8a891f84c9ec7421f\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"119\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Meme Stocks Market Cap, Economic Book Value, FCF(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p><i>This article originally published on April 14, 2022.</i></p><p><i>Disclosure: David Trainer, Kyle Guske II, and Matt Shuler receive no compensation to write about any specific stock, sector, style, or theme.</i></p><p>[1] Tesla’s ASP = (total automotive revenues – regulatory credits) / deliveries</p><p>[2] General Motors’ ASP = Vehicle, parts and accessories / wholesale vehicle sales</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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It’s worked so well that other companies have followed his lead. But now, we think the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. The attempted Twitter (TWTR) takeover is yet another example of Musk bullying his way into what he wants and underscores how his super-star status cannot always convince people to overlook his irreverent, reckless, and potentially illegal behavior. As the recent lawsuit againstMusk shows, he is not completely immune from the consequences of his actions. Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.End of the Road for MuskMost investors are keenly aware of Musk’s long history of making grand promises that don’t come true – the Roadster, the Semi, the Cybertruck, full-self driving (FSD) etc. – and at times are blatantly unethical, such as tweeting “funding secured” to go private, and pumping Doge coin. But now, we have evidence that he may have acted illegally in the way he reported his purchases of Twitter stock. Given the clear rules about how investors should report large stakes in public companies – like what Musk has in Twitter – this case seems straightforward: Musk broke the rules.The next question is how severely he will be punished. If the past is any guide, regulators will not muster more than a slap on the wrist. The real question is how institutional investors will react to signs Musk has pushed the envelope too far.Institutional investors own Tesla stock more often because they must, given its influence on their performance, than because they see it as a good investment. Any investor with a rigorous process can see the stock is ridiculously overvalued; so, you own it for the “Musk effect”. Accordingly, the institutional investors’ decision to sell Tesla stock will be based on when Musk’s outsized influence begins to wane.We think that moment has come.Musk Meets His Maker: TwitterIn our view, Musk’s repeated rule-breaking behavior has finally gone too far. Details of the case are still emerging, but Musk’s failure to disclose his more than 5% stake in Twitter arguably hurt investors who sold shares after he crossed that ownership threshold. Instead, Musk kept purchasing shares until reaching a 9% stake in Twitter before disclosing his position. The initial class-action lawsuit and the potential for more have finally gotten the attention of investors, if not regulators.The poor reception Twitter’s employees gave the news of Musk’s stake is a very public rejection of his super-star influencer status and provide the first tangible evidence that maybe his star power has limitations. If a hostile takeover prompts a mass exodus of talent, then Musk might end up destroying the company in the process of buying it. That being said, the loudest voices in the company are not necessarily the most valuable.As more people join lawsuits against Musk, and Twitter employees continue to express their mistrust of the company’s largest shareholder, institutional investors may seize this moment to quietly unload their shares of overvalued Tesla stock. Now is the time to sell because the price of the stock to this point has been more a reflection of Musk’s ability to draw an audience than any underlying fundamental value in the company.Live by the Stunt, Die by the StuntUltimately, it appears that as much as Twitter was the launch pad for Musk’s super influence powers, his failure thus far to win the publicity battle could mark the beginning-of-the-end of his super-star status.Musk’s Twitter play, which is another in a long series of distractions, could end poorly for Musk. Instead of addressing Tesla’s issues, Musk appears to be attempting to position himself as a defender of free speech. The risk he faces is that instead of looking like a hero he looks more like a bully running an ego-driven takeover with little regard for the rules. While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable (more on this below), a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.Tesla’s investors have not been impressed with Musk’s Twitter antics either, as the stock is down 11% since he announced his ownership in the social media giant. Likewise, the “Musk bump” in Twitter shares is likely to fade as investors realize the only value Musk brought was publicity, and not good publicity either. Although Twitter remains a popular platform, it has its own problems and suggestions such as removing a letter from its name can do more harm than good.Why Haven’t Regulators Done Anything Before Now?Tesla’s high stock price has, thus far, kept its CEO well beyond an arm’s length of regulators. Other executives in other times likely would have faced consequences for many of the things Musk has said and done. Today, Tesla’s high stock price indicates investors’ collective belief in Musk’s promises and protects Musk. Regulators don’t want to be accused of causing the company’s stock price to fall, thereby destroying the wealth of many investors and, as a result, footing the cost of defending against numerous shareholder lawsuits.Furthermore, Musk can claim Tesla’s elevated stock price and the wealth it endows is what he needs to fulfill his outlandish promises over time. However, should Tesla’s stock price ever reflect realistic expectations for the company, authorities may feel emboldened to pursue legal or regulatory action against Musk and/or Tesla. Credible claims can be made for several offenses, including:stock and cryptocurrency manipulationfalse advertising of Full Self Driving (FSD)ignoring safety authoritiesneglecting to file documentation on time related to his purchase of Twitter’s sharesand other claims of dubious veracityWhat Will Regulators Do When the Bubble Pops?Musk has positioned himself as a pop-culture icon. Though society loves to build up celebrities, so too does it love tearing them down even more. Once Tesla’s stock price falls from its overly inflated levels, Musk will lose his cover that has protected him from all his unethical and arguably illegal behavior. Regulators are likely to come after Musk with knives out after all the humiliation they had to suffer at his hand.Trouble on the HorizonAll the hype around Musk’s large stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead for Tesla. Of course, that is likely his goal. Below we discuss the fundamentals of Tesla’s business, which cannot be wished away or made irrelevant with hype.Incumbents Are Catching Up: Tesla’s first-mover advantage has long been cited as reason enough for investors to pile their money into the company. However, that advantage is gone, and in some cases turning into a lag. Ford (F), Rivian (RIVN), and General Motors (GM) aim to produce EV trucks in 2022, but Tesla will be on the sidelines until at least 2023 before launching its Cybertruck.The rising competition from incumbents means the days of Tesla’s rising profitability could be numbered. For starters, 26% of the company’s GAAP earnings in 2021 were from the sale of regulatory credits, not from the underlying economics of making and selling vehicles and other ancillary services.Once incumbents increase production of EVs they will need to purchase fewer credits from Elon. That means Tesla needs to actually start selling carsto make money. The catch-22 is that for the company to sell more cars, it first needs to increase its production capacity. If Tesla’s succeeds in selling more cars capital expenditure and working capital are primed to grow along with sales. Tesla needs to build economies of scale before it can benefit from them.Market Share Losses Continue: Incumbent automakers have entered the EV market with scale and are already taking market share from Tesla. Per Figure 2, Tesla’s share of global EV sales fell from 16% in 2019 to 14% in 2021.Tesla’s share of the U.S. EV market fell from 79% in2020to 70% in2021. With light truck sales comprising more than three out of every four vehicles sold in the U.S. in January 2022, Tesla falling behind in truck EVs means its share of the U.S. market could fall further.Figure 2: Tesla’s Share of the Global EV SalesTSLA Market Share Since 2019(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC, EV-volumes.com and StatistaSlow Start to 2022:Though Teslaforecastedan at least 50% YoY rise in deliveries in 2022, the company is feeling the effects of supply chain problems – just like every other automaker. The company delivered 310,000 vehicles in the quarter, while consensus estimates were for 313,000.Reverse DCF Math: Valuation Implies Tesla Will Own at Least 57% of the Global Passenger EV MarketDespite the increased competition, failure to meet delivery expectations, and diminutive share of the global EV market in 2021, Tesla’s valuation implies the company will own 57% of the global passenger EV market in 2030.Even if Tesla increases the average selling price (ASP) per vehicle to $55K vs. ($49K in 2021), Tesla’s stock price at ~$1,100/share implies the firm will sell 15 million vehicles in 2030 versus ~936k in 2021. That figure represents 57% of the projected base case global EV passenger vehicle market in 2030 and the implied vehicle sales based on a lower ASP looks even more unrealistic.To provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations reflected in Tesla’s stock price, we assume Tesla achieves profit margins 1.5x Toyota Motor Corp (TM) and triples its current auto manufacturing efficiency.Per Figure 3, an $1,100/share price implies that, in 2030, Tesla will sell the following number of vehicles based on these ASP benchmarks:15 million vehicles – ASP of $55K (above average U.S. new car price of $47K in 2021)7 million vehicles – ASP of $49K (equal to Tesla’s 2021 ASP[1])21 million vehicles – ASP of $38K (equal to General Motors’ ASP[2] of $38K in 2021)If Tesla achieves those EV sales, the implied market share for the company would be the following (assuming global passenger EV sales reach 26 million in 2030, the base case projection from the IEA):57% for 15 million vehicles64% for 17 million vehicles83% for 21 million vehiclesIf we assume the IEA’s best case for global passenger EV sales in 2030, 47 million vehicles, the above vehicle sales represent:31% for 15 million vehicles35% for 17 million vehicles45% for 21 million vehiclesFigure 3: Tesla’s Implied Vehicle Sales in 2030 to Justify $1,100/ShareTSLA DCF Implied Vehicle Production(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsTesla Must Generate More Profits Than Apple For Investors to Make MoneyBelow are the assumptions we use in our reverse discounted cash flow model to calculate the implied production levels above.Bulls should understand what Tesla needs to accomplish to justify ~$1,100/share:immediately achieve a 14% NOPAT margin (1.5x Toyota’s margin, which is the highest of the large-scale automakers we cover), compared to Tesla’s TTM margin of 8%) andgrow revenue by 32% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.In this scenario, Tesla generates $811 billion in revenue in 2030, which is 116% of the combined revenues of Toyota, Stellantis (STLA), Ford, General Motors, and Honda (HMC) over the past twelve months. Tesla must replace the U.S. auto industry before 2030 to justify current valuations.This scenario also implies Tesla grows net operating profit after-tax (NOPAT) by 2,458% from 2021 to 2030. In this scenario, Tesla generates $112 billion in NOPAT in 2030, or 12% higher than Apple’s (AAPL) TTM NOPAT, which, at $100 billion, is the highest of all companies we cover, and 65% higher than Microsoft (MSFT), the second-highest. Those companies have intertwined themselves in the lives of consumers and businesses around the world, which seems an unlikely feat for Tesla at this point.TSLA Has 46% Downside If Morgan Stanley Is Right About SalesIf we assume Tesla reaches Morgan Stanley’s estimate of selling 8.1 million cars in 2030 (which implies a 31% share of the global passenger EV market in 2030), at an ASP of $55k, the stock is worth just $542/share. Details:NOPAT margin improves to 14% andrevenue grows 27% compounded annually over the next decade, thenthe stock is worth just $547/share today – a 46% downside to the current price. See the math behind this reverse DCF scenario. In this scenario, Tesla grows NOPAT to $62 billion, or nearly 14x its 2021 NOPAT, and just 7% below Alphabet’s (GOOGL) 2021 NOPAT.TSLA Has 80%+ Downside Even with 27% Market Share and Realistic MarginsIf we estimate more reasonable (but still very optimistic) margins and market share achievements for Tesla, the stock is worth just $200/share. Here’s the math:NOPAT margin improves to 9% (equal to Toyota’s TTM margin) andrevenue grows by consensus estimates from 2022 to 2024 andrevenue grows 17% a year from 2025 to 2030, thenthe stock is worth just $200/share today – an 80% downside to the current price.In this scenario, Tesla sells 7 million cars (27% of the global passenger EV market in 2030) at an ASP of $47K (average new car price in U.S. in 2021) and grows NOPAT by 24% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.We also assume a more realistic NOPAT margin of 9% in this scenario, which is 1.3x higher than Toyota’s industry-leading five-year average NOPAT margin of 7%. Given the required capital requirements to fund manufacturing and match increased competition in the EV market, Tesla is unlikely to achieve and sustain a margin as high as 9% from 2022 to 2030. If Tesla fails to meet these expectations, then the stock is worth less than $200/share.Figure 4 compares the firm’s historical NOPAT to the NOPAT implied in the above scenarios to illustrate just how high the expectations baked into Tesla’s stock price remain. For additional context, we show Toyota’s, General Motors’, and Apple’s TTM NOPAT.Figure 4: Tesla’s Historical and Implied NOPAT: DCF Valuation ScenariosTSLA DCF Implied NOPAT(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsEach of the above scenarios assumes Tesla’s invested capital grows 14% compounded annually through 2030. For reference, Tesla’s invested capital grew 49% compounded annually from 2011 to 2021 and 30% compounded annually since 2015.An invested capital CAGR of 14% represents 1/3rdthe CAGR of Tesla’s property, plant, and equipment since 2011 and assumes the company can build future plants and produce cars 3x more efficiently than it has so far.In other words, we aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation.Tesla Won’t Be the Only One to FallOther meme stocks have taken pages from the Musk playbook and will likely suffer the same fate we expect Tesla to suffer once the game is up. GameStop (GME) promised to transform itself into an ecommerce powerhouse, yet the company continues to head in the opposite direction and earnings continue to disappoint. GameStop’s Core Earnings fell from -$200 million in fiscal 2021 to -$321 million in fiscal 2022.Despite the company’s inability to quickly execute operational change, GameStop’s stock has remained well above a reasonable valuation thanks in part to announcing the launch of a marketplace for nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and partnerships with blockchain firms.AMC Entertainment Holdings (AMC) has also run several Tesla-esque plays to prop up its stock. Indeed, the company’s CEO recently tweeted that the company is “playing on offense again” with its investment in a microcap gold mine. Before gold mines, the company got on the crypto bandwagon in 2021 by accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.Beyond the repeated attempts at propping up their stocks, the fundamentally weak business models of Tesla, GameStop, and AMC Entertainment in highly competitive industries burn cash and continue to dilute shareholders whenever possible. Per Figure 5, despite combining for more than $1.1 trillion of market cap, Tesla, AMC Entertainment, and GameStop have a combined economic book value, our measure of the no growth value of a stock, of -$52 billion and -$4.3 billion of free cash flow over the past twelve months.Figure 5: Meme Stock’s Market Cap, Economic Book Value & FCF: TTMMeme Stocks Market Cap, Economic Book Value, FCF(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsThis article originally published on April 14, 2022.Disclosure: David Trainer, Kyle Guske II, and Matt Shuler receive no compensation to write about any specific stock, sector, style, or theme.[1] Tesla’s ASP = (total automotive revenues – regulatory credits) / deliveries[2] General Motors’ ASP = Vehicle, parts and accessories / wholesale vehicle sales","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":175,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9011708291,"gmtCreate":1648919059113,"gmtModify":1676534422098,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"7 April will be another catalyst💪🏻💪🏻 Better hold on to ur TSLAs😂😂😂","listText":"7 April will be another catalyst💪🏻💪🏻 Better hold on to ur TSLAs😂😂😂","text":"7 April will be another catalyst💪🏻💪🏻 Better hold on to ur TSLAs😂😂😂","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9011708291","repostId":"1164394533","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1164394533","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1648917046,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1164394533?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-03 00:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Delivers 310,048 Electric Vehicles in the First Quarter","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1164394533","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"$Tesla$ just reported first-quarter vehicle production and delivery numbers for 2022.Here’s how they did.Electric vehicle deliveries : 310,048Electric vehicle production : 305,407Over the same period last year, Tesla delivered 184,800 electric vehicles and produced 180,338 cars.Tesla said it sold a total of 295,324 Model 3 sedans and Model Y sport utility vehicles, while it delivered 14,724 Model S luxury sedans and Model X premium SUVs.The company recently opened a new factory in Brandenburg, G","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> just reported first-quarter vehicle production and delivery numbers for 2022.</p><p>Here’s how they did.</p><p><b>Electric vehicle deliveries (total): 310,048</b></p><p><b>Electric vehicle production (total): 305,407</b></p><p>Over the same period last year, Tesla delivered 184,800 electric vehicles and produced 180,338 cars.</p><p>Tesla said it sold a total of 295,324 Model 3 sedans and Model Y sport utility vehicles, while it delivered 14,724 Model S luxury sedans and Model X premium SUVs.</p><p>The company recently opened a new factory in Brandenburg, Germany, and had a ribbon-cutting ceremony on March 22. Tesla also plans to host a grand opening and “cyber rodeo” event on April 7, at another new vehicle assembly plant it’s building in Austin, Texas.</p><p>Tesla moved its headquarters to Austin officially as of Dec. 1, but still operates its first electric car factory in Fremont, California.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Delivers 310,048 Electric Vehicles in the First Quarter</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Delivers 310,048 Electric Vehicles in the First Quarter\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-04-03 00:30</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> just reported first-quarter vehicle production and delivery numbers for 2022.</p><p>Here’s how they did.</p><p><b>Electric vehicle deliveries (total): 310,048</b></p><p><b>Electric vehicle production (total): 305,407</b></p><p>Over the same period last year, Tesla delivered 184,800 electric vehicles and produced 180,338 cars.</p><p>Tesla said it sold a total of 295,324 Model 3 sedans and Model Y sport utility vehicles, while it delivered 14,724 Model S luxury sedans and Model X premium SUVs.</p><p>The company recently opened a new factory in Brandenburg, Germany, and had a ribbon-cutting ceremony on March 22. Tesla also plans to host a grand opening and “cyber rodeo” event on April 7, at another new vehicle assembly plant it’s building in Austin, Texas.</p><p>Tesla moved its headquarters to Austin officially as of Dec. 1, but still operates its first electric car factory in Fremont, California.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1164394533","content_text":"Tesla just reported first-quarter vehicle production and delivery numbers for 2022.Here’s how they did.Electric vehicle deliveries (total): 310,048Electric vehicle production (total): 305,407Over the same period last year, Tesla delivered 184,800 electric vehicles and produced 180,338 cars.Tesla said it sold a total of 295,324 Model 3 sedans and Model Y sport utility vehicles, while it delivered 14,724 Model S luxury sedans and Model X premium SUVs.The company recently opened a new factory in Brandenburg, Germany, and had a ribbon-cutting ceremony on March 22. Tesla also plans to host a grand opening and “cyber rodeo” event on April 7, at another new vehicle assembly plant it’s building in Austin, Texas.Tesla moved its headquarters to Austin officially as of Dec. 1, but still operates its first electric car factory in Fremont, California.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":147,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9019034186,"gmtCreate":1648489029562,"gmtModify":1676534344344,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Up","listText":"Up","text":"Up","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9019034186","repostId":"1189188741","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1189188741","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Stock Market Quotes, Business News, Financial News, Trading Ideas, and Stock Research by Professionals","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Benzinga","id":"1052270027","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa"},"pubTimestamp":1648480128,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1189188741?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-28 23:08","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Mulls Stock Split: Why This Analyst Says It's A Smart Strategic Move","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1189188741","media":"Benzinga","summary":"Zinger BriefTesla's previous 5-1 stock split announced in August 2020 led to a meteoric rise in shar","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Zinger Brief</b></p><ul><li>Tesla&#39;s previous 5-1 stock split announced in August 2020 led to a meteoric rise in shares, the analyst noted.</li><li>Tesla shares are trading about 19% off their all-time high of $1,243.49 reached on Nov. 4, 2021.</li></ul><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b> announced in an 8-K filing Monday it will seek shareholder approval for increasing its authorized share capital to allow a stock split in the form of a stock dividend.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s board has vetted the proposal and shareholders will vote on it at the company&#39;s 2022 annual meeting.</p><p>An analyst at Wedbush sees the potential stock split as a catalyst for the EV stock.</p><p><b>The Tesla Analyst:Daniel Ives</b> maintained an Outperform rating and $1,400 price target for Tesla shares.</p><p><b>The Tesla Takeaways:</b> A second split of Tesla stock in as many years is a &#34;smart strategic move&#34; that will serve as a catalyst for shares going forward, Ives said in a note.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s previous 5-1 stock split announced in August 2020 led to a meteoric rise in shares, the analyst noted. This could be the reason for the proposed move, especially as EV demand remains robust, with the flagship Berlin and Texas Giga factories online.</p><p>Tesla shares are trading about 19% off their all-time high of $1,243.49 reached on Nov. 4, 2021.</p><p>Tesla is moving in the footsteps of tech giants such as <b>Amazon, Inc.</b>, <b>Alphabet, Inc.</b> and <b>Apple, Inc.</b>, Ives said.</p><p>The chip shortage is expected to moderate into the rest of 2022, the analyst said. Yet the impact of the Ukraine conflict on Europe isn&#39;t yet clear, he added.</p><p>&#34;While China will be a key growth driver, we believe demand is rapidly building for Tesla&#39;s Model Y with 2022 so far looking like another &#39;breakout year&#39; for Tesla and the EV industry,&#34; Ives said.</p><p>Tesla, the analyst said, has the potential to further expand its auto gross margin and profitability profile over the next 12 to 18 months, especially with an increasing number of higher-margin cars being sold and produced in China.</p><p><b>TSLA Price Action:</b>Tesla shares were rising 8% to $1,093 Monday morning.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Mulls Stock Split: Why This Analyst Says It's A Smart Strategic Move</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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that will serve as a catalyst for shares going forward, Ives said in a note.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s previous 5-1 stock split announced in August 2020 led to a meteoric rise in shares, the analyst noted. This could be the reason for the proposed move, especially as EV demand remains robust, with the flagship Berlin and Texas Giga factories online.</p><p>Tesla shares are trading about 19% off their all-time high of $1,243.49 reached on Nov. 4, 2021.</p><p>Tesla is moving in the footsteps of tech giants such as <b>Amazon, Inc.</b>, <b>Alphabet, Inc.</b> and <b>Apple, Inc.</b>, Ives said.</p><p>The chip shortage is expected to moderate into the rest of 2022, the analyst said. Yet the impact of the Ukraine conflict on Europe isn&#39;t yet clear, he added.</p><p>&#34;While China will be a key growth driver, we believe demand is rapidly building for Tesla&#39;s Model Y with 2022 so far looking like another &#39;breakout year&#39; for Tesla and the EV industry,&#34; Ives said.</p><p>Tesla, the analyst said, has the potential to further expand its auto gross margin and profitability profile over the next 12 to 18 months, especially with an increasing number of higher-margin cars being sold and produced in China.</p><p><b>TSLA Price Action:</b>Tesla shares were rising 8% to $1,093 Monday morning.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1189188741","content_text":"Zinger BriefTesla's previous 5-1 stock split announced in August 2020 led to a meteoric rise in shares, the analyst noted.Tesla shares are trading about 19% off their all-time high of $1,243.49 reached on Nov. 4, 2021.Tesla, Inc. announced in an 8-K filing Monday it will seek shareholder approval for increasing its authorized share capital to allow a stock split in the form of a stock dividend.Tesla's board has vetted the proposal and shareholders will vote on it at the company's 2022 annual meeting.An analyst at Wedbush sees the potential stock split as a catalyst for the EV stock.The Tesla Analyst:Daniel Ives maintained an Outperform rating and $1,400 price target for Tesla shares.The Tesla Takeaways: A second split of Tesla stock in as many years is a \"smart strategic move\" that will serve as a catalyst for shares going forward, Ives said in a note.Tesla's previous 5-1 stock split announced in August 2020 led to a meteoric rise in shares, the analyst noted. This could be the reason for the proposed move, especially as EV demand remains robust, with the flagship Berlin and Texas Giga factories online.Tesla shares are trading about 19% off their all-time high of $1,243.49 reached on Nov. 4, 2021.Tesla is moving in the footsteps of tech giants such as Amazon, Inc., Alphabet, Inc. and Apple, Inc., Ives said.The chip shortage is expected to moderate into the rest of 2022, the analyst said. Yet the impact of the Ukraine conflict on Europe isn't yet clear, he added.\"While China will be a key growth driver, we believe demand is rapidly building for Tesla's Model Y with 2022 so far looking like another 'breakout year' for Tesla and the EV industry,\" Ives said.Tesla, the analyst said, has the potential to further expand its auto gross margin and profitability profile over the next 12 to 18 months, especially with an increasing number of higher-margin cars being sold and produced in China.TSLA Price Action:Tesla shares were rising 8% to $1,093 Monday morning.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":160,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9032566637,"gmtCreate":1647401830851,"gmtModify":1676534225647,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"TO THE MOON!!","listText":"TO THE MOON!!","text":"TO THE MOON!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9032566637","repostId":"1110626397","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1110626397","pubTimestamp":1647398626,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1110626397?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-16 10:43","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Retains Long-Term Potential Despite Growing List of Concerns","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1110626397","media":"investorplace","summary":"Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) has had a rougher year in 2022 than many companies, at least in terms of stock p","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) has had a rougher year in 2022 than many companies, at least in terms of stock performance. A wide range of factors is weighing on the market, resulting in broad pullbacks. However, at this point, after closing out last week with two more steep declines, TSLA stock is down 33%. What’s going on that Tesla has lost a third of its value in just over three months? Is this a sign of deeper problems, or a chance to pick up shares while they are relatively affordable?</p><p>After soaring to record highs through 2021, the first big sign of trouble for TSLA stock came in mid-November. When CEO Elon Musk sold $5.7 billion worth of his Tesla shares, the stock dropped 15.4% in one week.</p><p>That was its worst one-week performance in nearly two years. More news was yet to come, with a series of headlines that raised further concerns — and continued to knock down TSLA stock. Here’s an overview of the concerns that have Tesla shares sliding.</p><h2>TLSA Stock Faces Numerous Headwinds</h2><p>When Tesla reported its fourth quarter earnings in January, the company warned that ongoing supply chain issues will continue to hobble production this year. Tesla warned investors: “Our own factories have been running below capacity for several quarters as supply chain became the main limiting factor, which is likely to continue through 2022.”</p><p>Predictably, the bad news sent TSLA stock down, despite a quarter that beat analyst projections.</p><p>Another issue weighing down Tesla this year is problems surrounding its Cybertruck. The global shortage of computer chips may have an upside for semiconductor stocks, but it has been bad news for Tesla. With no end in sight to the chip shortages, Tesla announced it would not be launching any new models in 2022. That means the Cybertruck — its eagerly anticipated electric pickup truck — is delayed until at least 2023.</p><h2>War in Ukraine Threatens Semiconductor Industry</h2><p>The chip shortage has been bad for automakers, including Tesla. And the war in Ukraine is now threatening to make the situation even worse. Neon gas is a critical component used in the manufacture of semiconductors, and Ukraine is a leading supplier with 70% of the world’s supply of neon. Even worse, Russia is another leading supplier of Neon gas. Russia is also a primary source of palladium, a metal used in electronics. The war puts those sources in jeopardy.</p><p>Furthermore, nickel is a crucial component in making EV batteries. The surge in demand for EVs already had nickel prices skyrocketing, then Russia invaded Ukraine. With Russia supplying over 11.3% of global nickel production, prices are now stratospheric. This makes EV batteries even more costly and it’s likely to make EVs more expensive. There could ultimately be battery production delays because of nickel shortages.</p><p>Tesla’s Plans for Producing Its Own Batteries Seem Optimistic</p><p>Tesla CEO Elon Musk had been promising the company would ramp up production of its own 4680 batteries this year. The batteries hold five times the energy of its current EV batteries, which are sourced from other manufacturers. This would allow the company to put smaller batteries in its cars while keeping the same range, significantly lowering costs. Musk had said that in 2022 the company would have the capacity to produce enough 4680 batteries for 1.3 million cars.</p><p>At this point, it’s looking like mass production won’t really be possible until 2023.</p><h2>Bottom Line on TSLA Stock</h2><p>One notable plus for TSLA stock through a year that has been full of challenges and concerns is its German gigafactory. The $5.5 billion plant had faced a series of regulatory delays, but on March 4, the company was given the go-ahead to begin construction. When complete, the gigafactory is expected to produce 500,000 Teslas yearly for the European market.</p><p>Having so many variables in play, it should come as no surprise that analyst ratings for TSLA stock are all over the place. Checking in with the Wall Street Journal, TSLA has a consensus “overweight” rating. However, consensus is far from unanimous. With 43 investment analysts polled, there are seven with a “sell” rating, three with “underweight” and 11 who rate TSLA as a “hold.”</p><p>As for Portfolio Grader, plug the data in for Tesla stock and you’ll find it earns a “B” rating.</p><p>The bottom line on TSLA stock is that the pullback that has seen shares lose a third of their value in 2022 — and 35% from their all-time high levels of November 2021. This offers a unique buying opportunity. However, it comes with risk. That’s especially true during the short term.</p><p>Any one of the concerns weighing on Tesla stock could turn into a real problem, negatively impacting the company. Then there are the economic factors affecting all companies, including rising interest rates and inflation.</p><p>If you overlook the rocky road shares could be on for now, TSLA stock continues to offer a pretty convincing long-term growth prospect.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Retains Long-Term Potential Despite Growing List of Concerns</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Retains Long-Term Potential Despite Growing List of Concerns\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-16 10:43 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/03/tesla-tsla-stock-retains-long-term-potential-despite-growing-list-of-concerns/><strong>investorplace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) has had a rougher year in 2022 than many companies, at least in terms of stock performance. A wide range of factors is weighing on the market, resulting in broad pullbacks. However...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/tesla-tsla-stock-retains-long-term-potential-despite-growing-list-of-concerns/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/tesla-tsla-stock-retains-long-term-potential-despite-growing-list-of-concerns/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1110626397","content_text":"Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) has had a rougher year in 2022 than many companies, at least in terms of stock performance. A wide range of factors is weighing on the market, resulting in broad pullbacks. However, at this point, after closing out last week with two more steep declines, TSLA stock is down 33%. What’s going on that Tesla has lost a third of its value in just over three months? Is this a sign of deeper problems, or a chance to pick up shares while they are relatively affordable?After soaring to record highs through 2021, the first big sign of trouble for TSLA stock came in mid-November. When CEO Elon Musk sold $5.7 billion worth of his Tesla shares, the stock dropped 15.4% in one week.That was its worst one-week performance in nearly two years. More news was yet to come, with a series of headlines that raised further concerns — and continued to knock down TSLA stock. Here’s an overview of the concerns that have Tesla shares sliding.TLSA Stock Faces Numerous HeadwindsWhen Tesla reported its fourth quarter earnings in January, the company warned that ongoing supply chain issues will continue to hobble production this year. Tesla warned investors: “Our own factories have been running below capacity for several quarters as supply chain became the main limiting factor, which is likely to continue through 2022.”Predictably, the bad news sent TSLA stock down, despite a quarter that beat analyst projections.Another issue weighing down Tesla this year is problems surrounding its Cybertruck. The global shortage of computer chips may have an upside for semiconductor stocks, but it has been bad news for Tesla. With no end in sight to the chip shortages, Tesla announced it would not be launching any new models in 2022. That means the Cybertruck — its eagerly anticipated electric pickup truck — is delayed until at least 2023.War in Ukraine Threatens Semiconductor IndustryThe chip shortage has been bad for automakers, including Tesla. And the war in Ukraine is now threatening to make the situation even worse. Neon gas is a critical component used in the manufacture of semiconductors, and Ukraine is a leading supplier with 70% of the world’s supply of neon. Even worse, Russia is another leading supplier of Neon gas. Russia is also a primary source of palladium, a metal used in electronics. The war puts those sources in jeopardy.Furthermore, nickel is a crucial component in making EV batteries. The surge in demand for EVs already had nickel prices skyrocketing, then Russia invaded Ukraine. With Russia supplying over 11.3% of global nickel production, prices are now stratospheric. This makes EV batteries even more costly and it’s likely to make EVs more expensive. There could ultimately be battery production delays because of nickel shortages.Tesla’s Plans for Producing Its Own Batteries Seem OptimisticTesla CEO Elon Musk had been promising the company would ramp up production of its own 4680 batteries this year. The batteries hold five times the energy of its current EV batteries, which are sourced from other manufacturers. This would allow the company to put smaller batteries in its cars while keeping the same range, significantly lowering costs. Musk had said that in 2022 the company would have the capacity to produce enough 4680 batteries for 1.3 million cars.At this point, it’s looking like mass production won’t really be possible until 2023.Bottom Line on TSLA StockOne notable plus for TSLA stock through a year that has been full of challenges and concerns is its German gigafactory. The $5.5 billion plant had faced a series of regulatory delays, but on March 4, the company was given the go-ahead to begin construction. When complete, the gigafactory is expected to produce 500,000 Teslas yearly for the European market.Having so many variables in play, it should come as no surprise that analyst ratings for TSLA stock are all over the place. Checking in with the Wall Street Journal, TSLA has a consensus “overweight” rating. However, consensus is far from unanimous. With 43 investment analysts polled, there are seven with a “sell” rating, three with “underweight” and 11 who rate TSLA as a “hold.”As for Portfolio Grader, plug the data in for Tesla stock and you’ll find it earns a “B” rating.The bottom line on TSLA stock is that the pullback that has seen shares lose a third of their value in 2022 — and 35% from their all-time high levels of November 2021. This offers a unique buying opportunity. However, it comes with risk. That’s especially true during the short term.Any one of the concerns weighing on Tesla stock could turn into a real problem, negatively impacting the company. Then there are the economic factors affecting all companies, including rising interest rates and inflation.If you overlook the rocky road shares could be on for now, TSLA stock continues to offer a pretty convincing long-term growth prospect.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":162,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9014097543,"gmtCreate":1649561574521,"gmtModify":1676534530950,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Going to oblivion","listText":"Going to oblivion","text":"Going to oblivion","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9014097543","repostId":"2226331575","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2226331575","pubTimestamp":1649558630,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2226331575?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-04-10 10:43","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Rivian Stock Plunged This Week -- and Could Fall Further","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2226331575","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"With challenges mounting, the electric truck maker's 2022 production could disappoint.","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>What happened</h2><p>Investors who thought <b>Rivian Automotive</b> stock had bottomed out in March were apparently too optimistic. The electric vehicle (EV) stock tumbled by another 16.5% this week, according to data provided by S&amp;P Global Market Intelligence.</p><p>Interestingly enough, at least <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> analyst expects Rivian stock to more than double from its current price, but investors are finding it hard to maintain faith in the electric truck start-up.</p><h2>So what</h2><p>Rivian filed its annual 10-K report with the Securities and Exchange Commission on March 31. While its numbers were nothing to write home about, the filing gave investors a bit more insight into something they hadn&#39;t been privy to earlier -- the impact of the Russia-Ukraine conflict on Rivian&#39;s operations.</p><p>Rivian admitted the supply crunch in critical parts such as semiconductors was posing a major challenge to it, noting that it had been compelled to make changes to its processes to adapt to those shortages. The changes have only added to the company&#39;s vehicle production costs, which were already on the rise because of the sharp increases in the prices of metals such as lithium and nickel -- key inputs for EVs.</p><p>Rivian also didn&#39;t rule out the possibility of a hike in the prices of its vehicles in the near future to offset its rising costs. This may not work in Rivian&#39;s favor, as it&#39;s already struggling to scale up production and fulfill its order backlog. For perspective, on April 5, Rivian reiterated its forecast that it will produce 25,000 EVs in 2022.  Just a few weeks ago, it said it could have produced 50,000 units this year if not for the supply and logistics challenges.</p><p>Moreover, Rivian said on April 5 that it had produced 2,553 vehicles and delivered 1,227 vehicles in the first quarter. Although I find this production run rate encouraging given that Rivian had produced only 1,410 vehicles this year through March 8, investors wanted more from the company.</p><p>In between, <b>General Motors</b> and <b>Honda</b> announced plans to co-develop and mass-produce affordable electric vehicles by 2027. Although the legacy automakers are targeting crossovers and SUVs, the possibility of them developing an electric pickup cannot be ruled out. General Motors&#39; GMC Hummer EV, which is expected to start production in 2023, is already being viewed as a rival to Rivian&#39;s R1T pickup.</p><p>Meanwhile, <b>Tesla</b> has officially opened the Texas gigafactory that will initially produce the Model Y SUV, but will next year start manufacturing the delayed Cybertruck -- another direct competitor to the R1T.</p><h2>Now what</h2><p>To be fair, I&#39;m not surprised that Rivian shareholders are feeling nervous. The R1T pickup truck may have received glorious initial reviews, but that will make little difference to investors until the company can produce trucks at scale and deliver them to buyers. Competition in its niche is heating up and costs are on the rise, and with investor confidence slipping, those headwinds are getting reflected in Rivian&#39;s stock price.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Rivian Stock Plunged This Week -- and Could Fall Further</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy Rivian Stock Plunged This Week -- and Could Fall Further\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-10 10:43 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/04/08/why-rivian-stock-plunged-this-week-could-fall/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>What happenedInvestors who thought Rivian Automotive stock had bottomed out in March were apparently too optimistic. The electric vehicle (EV) stock tumbled by another 16.5% this week, according to ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/04/08/why-rivian-stock-plunged-this-week-could-fall/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4555":"新能源车","BK4099":"汽车制造商","RIVN":"Rivian Automotive, Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/04/08/why-rivian-stock-plunged-this-week-could-fall/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2226331575","content_text":"What happenedInvestors who thought Rivian Automotive stock had bottomed out in March were apparently too optimistic. The electric vehicle (EV) stock tumbled by another 16.5% this week, according to data provided by S&P Global Market Intelligence.Interestingly enough, at least one analyst expects Rivian stock to more than double from its current price, but investors are finding it hard to maintain faith in the electric truck start-up.So whatRivian filed its annual 10-K report with the Securities and Exchange Commission on March 31. While its numbers were nothing to write home about, the filing gave investors a bit more insight into something they hadn't been privy to earlier -- the impact of the Russia-Ukraine conflict on Rivian's operations.Rivian admitted the supply crunch in critical parts such as semiconductors was posing a major challenge to it, noting that it had been compelled to make changes to its processes to adapt to those shortages. The changes have only added to the company's vehicle production costs, which were already on the rise because of the sharp increases in the prices of metals such as lithium and nickel -- key inputs for EVs.Rivian also didn't rule out the possibility of a hike in the prices of its vehicles in the near future to offset its rising costs. This may not work in Rivian's favor, as it's already struggling to scale up production and fulfill its order backlog. For perspective, on April 5, Rivian reiterated its forecast that it will produce 25,000 EVs in 2022.  Just a few weeks ago, it said it could have produced 50,000 units this year if not for the supply and logistics challenges.Moreover, Rivian said on April 5 that it had produced 2,553 vehicles and delivered 1,227 vehicles in the first quarter. Although I find this production run rate encouraging given that Rivian had produced only 1,410 vehicles this year through March 8, investors wanted more from the company.In between, General Motors and Honda announced plans to co-develop and mass-produce affordable electric vehicles by 2027. Although the legacy automakers are targeting crossovers and SUVs, the possibility of them developing an electric pickup cannot be ruled out. General Motors' GMC Hummer EV, which is expected to start production in 2023, is already being viewed as a rival to Rivian's R1T pickup.Meanwhile, Tesla has officially opened the Texas gigafactory that will initially produce the Model Y SUV, but will next year start manufacturing the delayed Cybertruck -- another direct competitor to the R1T.Now whatTo be fair, I'm not surprised that Rivian shareholders are feeling nervous. The R1T pickup truck may have received glorious initial reviews, but that will make little difference to investors until the company can produce trucks at scale and deliver them to buyers. Competition in its niche is heating up and costs are on the rise, and with investor confidence slipping, those headwinds are getting reflected in Rivian's stock price.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":41,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9019034654,"gmtCreate":1648489071097,"gmtModify":1676534344353,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Never too late!!","listText":"Never too late!!","text":"Never too late!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9019034654","repostId":"1101698141","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1101698141","pubTimestamp":1648473577,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1101698141?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-28 21:19","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is It Too Late to Buy Tesla Stock?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1101698141","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"In two years, the stock price has increased by more than 10 times.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>KEY POINTS</b></p><ul><li>Tesla&#39;s profit margin in the latest quarter was well ahead of traditional automakers.</li><li>The company already has nearly 60,000 vehicles in its full self-driving beta program.</li><li>The stock&#39;s valuation doesn&#39;t make sense using traditional methods of measurement.</li></ul><p>If you had invested $100,000 in <b>Tesla</b> two years back, your investment would have grown by more than 10 times to $1.2 million today. Early Tesla investors are surely enjoying the stock&#39;s dramatic rise. But if you are among the ones who missed investing earlier, you must be wondering if it is already too late to invest in the electric vehicle (EV) pioneer.</p><p>Let&#39;s discuss if it still makes sense to buy the stock.</p><p><b>Tesla continues to grow</b></p><p>Founded in 2003, Tesla made its first annual profit, $721 million, in 2020. In 2021, the company&#39;s profit surged 665% to $5.5 billion. At the same time, its revenue grew 71% for the year. The strong growth was supported by an 87% increase in vehicle deliveries in 2021.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6cd1ddadca6f532b55f14839f80e5084\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1054\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>A Tesla Model Y. Image source: Tesla.</span></p><p>Most investors and analysts agree that Tesla is very likely to continue growing its vehicle deliveries. To that end, the company is opening new factories; it started deliveries from its German factory on Tuesday and is expected to open its Texas factory soon. In short, Tesla is well on its way to becoming one of the largest automakers in the world.</p><p>And the company has managed to distinguish itself from traditional automakers by generating high margins.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/01dcfae49bb9e65751d7f5a1bf529a2f\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"387\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>TSLA profit margin (quarterly). Data by YCharts.</span></p><p><b>Ford&#39;s</b> high margin in the chart above is attributable to a gain relating to its <b>Rivian</b> investment. It reported an adjusted EBIT (earnings before interest and tax) margin of 5.4% for the fourth quarter. So Tesla&#39;s profit margin in the latest quarter well exceeded that of traditional automakers.</p><p>Those high margins can be attributed to several factors. The first one is high-margin services, including full self-driving (FSD) features and over-the-air software updates, which command higher profits than traditional vehicle sales. Other factors include high vertical integration, an absence of a dealer network, and low marketing expenses.</p><p><b>Innovation is Tesla&#39;s key differentiator</b></p><p>Despite the high growth, at a $1 trillion market capitalization, value-focused investors are understandably wary of Tesla. But the stock has defied traditional valuation metrics so far. The big question is: Can it continue to do so?</p><p>While no one can answer that question conclusively, I&#39;m inclined toward a yes. Apart from high margins and scale, some other factors could support Tesla&#39;s valuation in the future. The top one is the automaker&#39;s FSD feature.</p><p>Tesla already has nearly 60,000 vehicles in its FSD beta program. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety has awarded the vision-only FSD version in certain Tesla models a score of &#34;superior&#34; in collision avoidance and has given it a Top Safety Pick+, the highest possible rating.</p><p>The company could have significant potential to expand its margins if its FSD feature shapes up as the company is hoping. Though there are other companies working on autonomous driving -- such as <b>Alphabet</b> with its Waymo and <b>General Motors</b> with its Cruise -- Tesla could have an edge. With the large number of vehicles in use, it could have vastly more data to train its program than its competitors have. And FSD features developed in-house will again tap into the benefits of vertical integration. It could even offer the feature for a fee to other automakers. But this is just speculation and may not turn out as expected.</p><p>Though it could be difficult to imagine what Tesla will do next, its growth hinges on innovation. And the company seems to have no dearth of it so far.</p><p><b>Should you buy Tesla stock now?</b></p><p>Tesla&#39;s higher margins give some credibility to the reasoning that it should be valued as a technology stock.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d6ec4aae2fda853f65a2c172b8ea8869\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"387\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>TSLA market cap. Data by YCharts.</span></p><p>Tesla&#39;s high earnings growth makes its forward price/earnings-to-growth (PEG) ratio attractive, despite its high price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c2f8a17f6e81b7293095ea60a0730536\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"387\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>TSLA PE ratio (forward 1 year). Data by YCharts.</span></p><p>A PEG ratio compares a stock&#39;s P/E to the expected growth in its earnings. All other things being equal, the stock of a company growing its earnings at a higher rate is expected to trade at a higher P/E ratio.</p><p>Tesla generated $5.5 billion in net income in 2021, selling nearly 1 million EVs. As the company&#39;s sales rise, its profits should increase proportionally, if the company maintains its margins. When that happens, Tesla stock&#39;s current valuation will start to make sense in retrospect. That&#39;s because the stock price will have likely risen more, making valuation incomprehensible again at that point in future!</p><p>In short, while Tesla stock might not generate the 10-bagger returns it did in the past two years, it looks well positioned to generate market-beating returns in the years to come. So it&#39;s likely not too late to add this top stock to your portfolio.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is It Too Late to Buy Tesla Stock?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs It Too Late to Buy Tesla Stock?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-28 21:19 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/03/28/is-it-too-late-to-buy-tesla-stock/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>KEY POINTSTesla's profit margin in the latest quarter was well ahead of traditional automakers.The company already has nearly 60,000 vehicles in its full self-driving beta program.The stock's ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/03/28/is-it-too-late-to-buy-tesla-stock/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/03/28/is-it-too-late-to-buy-tesla-stock/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1101698141","content_text":"KEY POINTSTesla's profit margin in the latest quarter was well ahead of traditional automakers.The company already has nearly 60,000 vehicles in its full self-driving beta program.The stock's valuation doesn't make sense using traditional methods of measurement.If you had invested $100,000 in Tesla two years back, your investment would have grown by more than 10 times to $1.2 million today. Early Tesla investors are surely enjoying the stock's dramatic rise. But if you are among the ones who missed investing earlier, you must be wondering if it is already too late to invest in the electric vehicle (EV) pioneer.Let's discuss if it still makes sense to buy the stock.Tesla continues to growFounded in 2003, Tesla made its first annual profit, $721 million, in 2020. In 2021, the company's profit surged 665% to $5.5 billion. At the same time, its revenue grew 71% for the year. The strong growth was supported by an 87% increase in vehicle deliveries in 2021.A Tesla Model Y. Image source: Tesla.Most investors and analysts agree that Tesla is very likely to continue growing its vehicle deliveries. To that end, the company is opening new factories; it started deliveries from its German factory on Tuesday and is expected to open its Texas factory soon. In short, Tesla is well on its way to becoming one of the largest automakers in the world.And the company has managed to distinguish itself from traditional automakers by generating high margins.TSLA profit margin (quarterly). Data by YCharts.Ford's high margin in the chart above is attributable to a gain relating to its Rivian investment. It reported an adjusted EBIT (earnings before interest and tax) margin of 5.4% for the fourth quarter. So Tesla's profit margin in the latest quarter well exceeded that of traditional automakers.Those high margins can be attributed to several factors. The first one is high-margin services, including full self-driving (FSD) features and over-the-air software updates, which command higher profits than traditional vehicle sales. Other factors include high vertical integration, an absence of a dealer network, and low marketing expenses.Innovation is Tesla's key differentiatorDespite the high growth, at a $1 trillion market capitalization, value-focused investors are understandably wary of Tesla. But the stock has defied traditional valuation metrics so far. The big question is: Can it continue to do so?While no one can answer that question conclusively, I'm inclined toward a yes. Apart from high margins and scale, some other factors could support Tesla's valuation in the future. The top one is the automaker's FSD feature.Tesla already has nearly 60,000 vehicles in its FSD beta program. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety has awarded the vision-only FSD version in certain Tesla models a score of \"superior\" in collision avoidance and has given it a Top Safety Pick+, the highest possible rating.The company could have significant potential to expand its margins if its FSD feature shapes up as the company is hoping. Though there are other companies working on autonomous driving -- such as Alphabet with its Waymo and General Motors with its Cruise -- Tesla could have an edge. With the large number of vehicles in use, it could have vastly more data to train its program than its competitors have. And FSD features developed in-house will again tap into the benefits of vertical integration. It could even offer the feature for a fee to other automakers. But this is just speculation and may not turn out as expected.Though it could be difficult to imagine what Tesla will do next, its growth hinges on innovation. And the company seems to have no dearth of it so far.Should you buy Tesla stock now?Tesla's higher margins give some credibility to the reasoning that it should be valued as a technology stock.TSLA market cap. Data by YCharts.Tesla's high earnings growth makes its forward price/earnings-to-growth (PEG) ratio attractive, despite its high price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio.TSLA PE ratio (forward 1 year). Data by YCharts.A PEG ratio compares a stock's P/E to the expected growth in its earnings. All other things being equal, the stock of a company growing its earnings at a higher rate is expected to trade at a higher P/E ratio.Tesla generated $5.5 billion in net income in 2021, selling nearly 1 million EVs. As the company's sales rise, its profits should increase proportionally, if the company maintains its margins. When that happens, Tesla stock's current valuation will start to make sense in retrospect. That's because the stock price will have likely risen more, making valuation incomprehensible again at that point in future!In short, while Tesla stock might not generate the 10-bagger returns it did in the past two years, it looks well positioned to generate market-beating returns in the years to come. So it's likely not too late to add this top stock to your portfolio.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":185,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9034520948,"gmtCreate":1647922219233,"gmtModify":1676534280661,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nio wont be able to scale... I'll be very careful","listText":"Nio wont be able to scale... I'll be very careful","text":"Nio wont be able to scale... I'll be very careful","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9034520948","repostId":"1187302524","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1187302524","pubTimestamp":1647916378,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1187302524?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-22 10:32","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Earnings Are Coming. Expect Wall Street to Stay Bullish and Cut Targets.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1187302524","media":"Barrons","summary":"Stock in Chinese electric-vehicle maker NIO is down a lot since the start of the year. But Wall Street still likes the stock—a lot.Despite the underlying bullishness, though, investors should brace fo","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Stock in Chinese electric-vehicle maker NIO is down a lot since the start of the year. But Wall Street still likes the stock—a lot.</p><p>Despite the underlying bullishness, though, investors should brace for a shift from some analysts after, and even before, the company reports earnings on Thursday.</p><p>Deutsche Bank’s Edison Yu shows why. Yu wrote a positive note on Monday previewing NIO (ticker: NIO) fourth-quarter earnings. The “tide may finally be turning,” wrote Yu. “While volumes have stagnated over the past few quarters due to operational bottlenecks, we think deliveries are on track to increase from [10,000 a month to 25,000] exiting the year which will shift the narrative away from supply constraints to product cycle.”</p><p>All auto makers are dealing with part shortages—a lack of semiconductors is the best known. NIO is no exception. Still, the company has managed to introduce new vehicles, including the ET7 and ET5 sedans, that have received rave reviews from top automotive magazines.</p><p>Yu rates shares Buy, but cut his target price to $50 a share from $70. The move simple reflects how the stock has been trading.</p><p>Coming into Monday trading, NIO shares are down about 34% year to date and down 62% from their July 52-week high of more than $55 a share—far worse than the 6% and 4% comparable year-to-date drops of the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average and far worse than EV leader Tesla (TSLA). Shares of Tesla are down about 14% year to date and off about 27%</p><p>Rising interest rates and inflation have hurt all EV shares. A basket of metals that go into lithium-ion batteries, tracked by <i>Barron’s</i>, is up more than 60% year to date. That makes EVs more expensive—and pressures profit margins.</p><p>But the U.S.-listed Chinese EV names have been hurt by renewed fears about U.S. stock delisting as well. Chinese companies have to comply with Washington’s audit standards to keep their Wall Street listings. NIO and its peers appear to meet the requirements, but investors aren’t sure. Delisting, if it happens, is probably a couple of years away.</p><p>The new target price from Yu is about 140% above where the stock has traded of late—a big upside. He lowered his target price because target prices typically aren’t set way above where a stock trades. The average implied gain for stocks in the S&amp;P 500, based on average target prices, is roughly 13%.</p><p>Analysts target prices are helpful, but they can tend to track whatever is going on in the market.</p><p>Overall, about 91% of analysts covering NIO stock rate shares Buy. The average Buy-rating ratio for stocks in the S&amp;P is about 58%. The average analyst target price is about $50, just like Yu’s.</p><p>Analysts project NIO will lose about 14 cents a share from $1.5 billion in sales. The company reported a 16 cent per share loss from $1 billion in sales in the fourth quarter of 2020.</p><p>The company’s numbers are due out Thursday after the close of trading.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Earnings Are Coming. 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Expect Wall Street to Stay Bullish and Cut Targets.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-22 10:32 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/nio-stock-price-earnings-preview-51647875385?mod=hp_LATEST><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Stock in Chinese electric-vehicle maker NIO is down a lot since the start of the year. But Wall Street still likes the stock—a lot.Despite the underlying bullishness, though, investors should brace ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/nio-stock-price-earnings-preview-51647875385?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/nio-stock-price-earnings-preview-51647875385?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1187302524","content_text":"Stock in Chinese electric-vehicle maker NIO is down a lot since the start of the year. But Wall Street still likes the stock—a lot.Despite the underlying bullishness, though, investors should brace for a shift from some analysts after, and even before, the company reports earnings on Thursday.Deutsche Bank’s Edison Yu shows why. Yu wrote a positive note on Monday previewing NIO (ticker: NIO) fourth-quarter earnings. The “tide may finally be turning,” wrote Yu. “While volumes have stagnated over the past few quarters due to operational bottlenecks, we think deliveries are on track to increase from [10,000 a month to 25,000] exiting the year which will shift the narrative away from supply constraints to product cycle.”All auto makers are dealing with part shortages—a lack of semiconductors is the best known. NIO is no exception. Still, the company has managed to introduce new vehicles, including the ET7 and ET5 sedans, that have received rave reviews from top automotive magazines.Yu rates shares Buy, but cut his target price to $50 a share from $70. The move simple reflects how the stock has been trading.Coming into Monday trading, NIO shares are down about 34% year to date and down 62% from their July 52-week high of more than $55 a share—far worse than the 6% and 4% comparable year-to-date drops of the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average and far worse than EV leader Tesla (TSLA). Shares of Tesla are down about 14% year to date and off about 27%Rising interest rates and inflation have hurt all EV shares. A basket of metals that go into lithium-ion batteries, tracked by Barron’s, is up more than 60% year to date. That makes EVs more expensive—and pressures profit margins.But the U.S.-listed Chinese EV names have been hurt by renewed fears about U.S. stock delisting as well. Chinese companies have to comply with Washington’s audit standards to keep their Wall Street listings. NIO and its peers appear to meet the requirements, but investors aren’t sure. Delisting, if it happens, is probably a couple of years away.The new target price from Yu is about 140% above where the stock has traded of late—a big upside. He lowered his target price because target prices typically aren’t set way above where a stock trades. The average implied gain for stocks in the S&P 500, based on average target prices, is roughly 13%.Analysts target prices are helpful, but they can tend to track whatever is going on in the market.Overall, about 91% of analysts covering NIO stock rate shares Buy. The average Buy-rating ratio for stocks in the S&P is about 58%. The average analyst target price is about $50, just like Yu’s.Analysts project NIO will lose about 14 cents a share from $1.5 billion in sales. The company reported a 16 cent per share loss from $1 billion in sales in the fourth quarter of 2020.The company’s numbers are due out Thursday after the close of trading.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":183,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4099263395755910","authorId":"4099263395755910","name":"AhBart","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/5c8a0140b30f2d6c3be37b2ad1a1efe8","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"Indeed ! To be very careful is better than being careless 🤟🏽","text":"Indeed ! To be very careful is better than being careless 🤟🏽","html":"Indeed ! To be very careful is better than being careless 🤟🏽"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9064009211,"gmtCreate":1652241655933,"gmtModify":1676535060642,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nope, much higher","listText":"Nope, much higher","text":"Nope, much higher","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9064009211","repostId":"2234623829","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2234623829","pubTimestamp":1652238014,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2234623829?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-05-11 11:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla - Fair Value Of $825","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2234623829","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has tra","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b> (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has traded well above 100 times sales in the past, today it trades at nearly 100 times earnings. Nobody doubts that Tesla has succeeded in becoming profitable, but still, some investors think the stock is overpriced. Tesla does trade at high multiples, but its growth is also very strong. In this article, I try to settle the Tesla valuation question with a discounted cash flow (“DCF”) model. Ultimately I arrive at a $825 valuation, giving it slight upside to today’s price. However, I rate the stock a hold rather than a buy, due to concerns about its accounting.</p><h2>Competitive Landscape</h2><p>Before getting into my analysis of Tesla’s fair value, I have to take a look at the company’s competitive position. In a few paragraphs, I will make a revenue growth estimate for Tesla that is above EV industry averages. A company needs a solid competitive position in order to out-grow its industry, so we need to establish Tesla does have a superior market position.</p><p>Some of the companies Tesla competes with include:</p><ul><li><p><b>Volkswagen</b> (OTCPK:VWAGY) - Second place in deliveries after Tesla, with 452,000 BEVs sold in 2021.</p></li><li><p><b>BYD Motors</b> (OTCPK:BYDDF) - Third place after Volkswagen, with 320,000 BEVs sold in 2021 (593,000 EVs total if you include hybrids).</p></li><li><p><b>NIO</b> (NIO) and <b>Lucid Motors</b> (LCID) - very small players but noteworthy for their “head to head” competition with Tesla. As luxury EV makers, they are playing the exact same game that Tesla is; VW and BYD ship different kinds of vehicles.</p></li></ul><p>Tesla is well ahead of the competition in pure-EV sedans. With 932,000 cars delivered in 2022, it sold more than double what VW did. Tesla’s dominance of the EV industry is lesser if you include trucks, trains and buses. By that standard, BYD, with 593,000 deliveries, is not too far behind Tesla.</p><p>Can Tesla’s edge in electric cars continue?</p><p>Right out of the gate, Tesla has an enormous competitive edge over its competitors in the form of free advertising. Elon Musk has <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> of the world’s biggest <b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a></b> (TWTR) accounts, and he is in the process of “locking in” that advantage by buying Twitter. With 80 million Twitter followers, Musk can reach a lot of people without having to spend a penny on advertising. He uses this advantage to the fullest, getting free publicity through Tweets, TED talks and other unconventional channels. Generating “organic” publicity this way tends to produce superior margins, as it reduces the need for a marketing budget.</p><p>It isn&#39;t easy to explain exactly how valuable Tesla&#39;s ability to market itself without paying money for advertising is, but a few points are worth keeping in mind:</p><ul><li>Tesla was named 2021&#39;s fastest growing brand by Visual Capitalist.</li><li>Tesla was the world&#39;s fastest growing automaker in 2020.</li><li>The company moved from 6th place to 3rd place in the list of world&#39;s most valuable automotive brands in 2022.</li></ul><p>... And all of this was achieved with no marketing budget to speak of! By contrast, <b>Ford </b>(F) spent $468 on marketing per each car sold in 2021.</p><p>The advantage this provides Tesla is enormous. First of all, it empowers the company to spend way more money on R&amp;D compared to the competition: at $2,984 per car sold, Tesla invests much more in research than the average car company. That can drive innovation over time.</p><p>Second, this edge provides the potential for superior earnings growth. With lower costs come higher profits, and costs compound just like stock prices do. Below, you will see a model of two nearly identical companies, A and B, growing revenue by 30% and operating costs by 20%. The only difference is that company B has a marketing budget that starts at 10% of sales and grows by 40% per year. In the table below, you will see how much more profit company A has by the end of five years.</p><table><tbody><tr><td></td><td>Year 1</td><td>Year 2</td><td>Year 3</td><td>Year 4</td><td>Year 5</td></tr><tr><td>Company A revenue</td><td>1,000</td><td>1,300</td><td>1690</td><td>2197</td><td>2856</td></tr><tr><td>Company A costs</td><td>500</td><td>600</td><td>720</td><td>864</td><td>1036.8</td></tr><tr><td>Company A profit</td><td>500</td><td>700</td><td>970</td><td>1333</td><td><b>1820</b></td></tr><tr><td>Company B revenue</td><td>1,000</td><td>1,300</td><td>1690</td><td>2197</td><td>2856</td></tr><tr><td>Company B costs</td><td>500</td><td>600</td><td>720</td><td>864</td><td>1036.8</td></tr><tr><td>Company B marketing</td><td>100</td><td>140</td><td>196</td><td>274.4</td><td>384</td></tr><tr><td>Company B profit</td><td>400</td><td>560</td><td>774</td><td>1058.6</td><td><b>1436</b></td></tr></tbody></table><p>As you can see, company A ends up at $1,820 in profit after five years, while company B ends up at $1,612. Company A has a 29.48% CAGR growth rate in profit, while company B grows noticeably slower, at 29.12%. And, of course, Company A&#39;s profit is much higher at the end of the period.</p><h2>Financials</h2><p>Before getting into my DCF model for Tesla, I have to explore its financials. It’s not enough to simply project a company’s earnings growth trend into the future, we need to look at the components that make up earnings to really gauge where profits are headed. In addition, we need to factor in variables that haven’t been reported yet but are known to be important, such as rising costs of raw materials.</p><p>With that in mind, I’ve put together a table with Tesla’s most important earnings-related metrics for the last five years.</p><table><colgroup></colgroup><tbody><tr><td></td><td><p>2017</p></td><td><p>2018</p></td><td><p>2019</p></td><td><p>2020</p></td><td><p>2021</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Revenue</p></td><td><p>$11.75B</p></td><td><p>$21.46B</p></td><td><p>$24.57B</p></td><td><p>$31.53B</p></td><td><p>$53.8B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Cost of sales</p></td><td><p>$9.53B</p></td><td><p>$17.42B</p></td><td><p>$20.51B</p></td><td><p>$18.9B</p></td><td><p>$40.2B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Operating expenses</p></td><td><p>$3.855B</p></td><td><p>$4.430B</p></td><td><p>$4.138B</p></td><td><p>$4.636B</p></td><td><p>$7B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Total costs</p></td><td><p>$13.385B</p></td><td><p>$21.85B</p></td><td><p>$24.64B</p></td><td><p>$23.56B</p></td><td><p>$47.2B</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Adjusted EPS</p></td><td><p>$-1.80</p></td><td><p>$-0.27</p></td><td><p>$0.03</p></td><td><p>$2.24</p></td><td><p>$6.78</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Based on the numbers above, we get growth rates of:</p><ul><li><p>36% CAGR in revenue.</p></li><li><p>28% CAGR in costs.</p></li></ul><p>If historical trends were to continue into the future, we would expect growing profits. In my estimate, Tesla’s profits will in fact grow. However, we can’t just project past growth into the future. We need to know what factors are going to drive growth in revenue and costs going forward.</p><p>Revenue is hard to predict because it depends on many factors: demand, supply chains, availability of raw materials and more. We could start from what industry experts are expecting for the market: Facts and Factors expects 24.5% CAGR growth in EVs to 2027. We also know that $53 billion is an enormous amount of revenue, which means that future revenue growth is unlikely to match that observed in the past. We would expect some deceleration. On the other hand, Tesla has advantages over other EV companies, such as brand recognition, a network of charging stations, and free social media advertising. So, we have reasons to expect deceleration, as well as reasons to think Tesla will outperform the industry. So, I’ll estimate Tesla’s future revenue growth at 30% CAGR–above the industry average but slower than Tesla in the past.</p><p>Estimating Tesla’s costs is a bit easier. We know that car manufacturing is a high variable cost business and that costs increase with each car. So costs will correlate with revenue somewhat. Additionally we know that Tesla’s suppliers are charging it higher prices this year. So, I’ll estimate that total costs grow at 29% CAGR–essentially I’m expecting the past cost trend to continue but nudging it up 100 basis points to reflect this year’s supplier price hikes.</p><p>The only step left before doing our earnings forecast is to convert the raw ingredients into per share amounts. In its most recent quarter, Tesla had 1.157 billion shares outstanding, so:</p><ul><li><p>The $53.8 billion in revenue turns into $46.49 per share.</p></li><li><p>The $47.2 billion in costs turns into $40.79 per share.</p></li></ul><p>Starting with these amounts for the base year, we get (on a per share basis):</p><table><colgroup></colgroup><tbody><tr><td></td><td><p>base</p></td><td><p>2022</p></td><td><p>2023</p></td><td><p>2024</p></td><td><p>2025</p></td><td><p>2026</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>REV</p></td><td><p>$46.49</p></td><td><p>$60.43</p></td><td><p>$78.56</p></td><td><p>$102.13</p></td><td><p>$132.78</p></td><td><p>$172.61</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>COST</p></td><td><p>$40.79</p></td><td><p>$52.61</p></td><td><p>$67.87</p></td><td><p>$87.56</p></td><td><p>$112.95</p></td><td><p>$145</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>EBIT</p></td><td><p>$5.7</p></td><td><p>$7.82</p></td><td><p>$10.69</p></td><td><p>$14.57</p></td><td><p>$19.83</p></td><td><p>$27.61</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Based on these forecasts, we can do a simple DCF model on five years&#39; worth of Tesla&#39;s earnings:</p><table><colgroup></colgroup><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td><p>TOTAL</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Cash flows</p></td><td><p>$7.82</p></td><td><p>$10.69</p></td><td><p>$14.57</p></td><td><p>$19.83</p></td><td><p>$27.61</p></td><td><p>N/A</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>(1+r)^n</p></td><td><p>1.083</p></td><td><p>1.172</p></td><td><p>1.27</p></td><td><p>1.375</p></td><td><p>1.489</p></td><td><p>N/A</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Discounted CF</p></td><td><p>$7.22</p></td><td><p>$9.12</p></td><td><p>$11.47</p></td><td><p>$14.42</p></td><td><p>$24.03</p></td><td><p>$66.26</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>So, our present value for 5 years’ worth of cash flows/EBIT is $66.26 per share. That’s not bad. The only step left is to find a terminal value for Tesla. I’ve assumed a discount rate of 8.3% for the purposes of this analysis. If Tesla’s earnings growth levels off to 4.5% after 5 years, then we get a terminal value of $759. So, we have approximately $66 in discounted cash flows, and a terminal value of $759. That leaves us with a fair value of $825.</p><h2>Why Tesla Eludes an Easy Valuation</h2><p>As I’ve showed, a basic DCF valuation would say that Tesla is worth $825–slightly more than it’s worth now. This valuation justifies a rating ranging from &#34;hold&#34; to a slight buy. That’s what we get with some reasonably conservative estimates of future growth. But before you buy TSLA based on this model, you need to consider some factors that could cause the stock to behave differently than expected.</p><p>One of these is accounting. Many analysts think that Tesla is aggressively recognizing and potentially overstating its revenue. Without fully endorsing this view, I can give plausible reasons someone would believe it.</p><p>For example, in fiscal 2021, Tesla reported $5.7 billion in inventory on hand. That was an increase of $1.7 billion from the same quarter a year before. The rate of growth in inventory accelerated as well: in the prior two years, inventory only grew in the hundreds of millions of dollars.</p><p>It could be that Tesla simply expects a lot more sales in 2022 and is holding inventory for that reason. However, some argue that Tesla simply isn’t selling as many cars as it claims it is. It is well known that Tesla collects cash for transactions that aren’t “sales.” We know, for example, that you can pre-order a Cybertruck, even though the truck isn’t being delivered. Under GAAP, you’re not supposed to count a payment as “revenue” until the product in question is delivered.</p><p>Could Tesla be bundling Cybertruck deposits with revenue to juice its sales numbers? Ultimately, we don’t know. Over the years, analysts have voiced many concerns with Tesla’s accounting. In addition to the one just mentioned, there have also been concerns about Tesla capitalizing inventory instead of expensing it, in order to boost its margins. If all of these things are going on, then Tesla’s revenue and profit are both being overstated. I do not claim that they are: there are other explanations for the peculiarities I noticed above. But, Tesla’s peculiar accounting is a risk factor to keep in mind.</p><h2>The Bottom Line</h2><p>The bottom line on Tesla is this:</p><p>If we can indeed take its financial statements at face value, then its stock is probably worth at least $800. As my discounted cash flow valuation shows, you get to $825 just by assuming five years of strong growth followed by an eternity of sluggish growth. It’s possible that Tesla will not meet the growth figures I estimated for the five-year period, but on the flipside, it could easily continue growing for much more than five years. So, TSLA’s current stock price is not totally unreasonable – assuming its accounting can be trusted.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla - Fair Value Of $825</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla - Fair Value Of $825\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-11 11:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4509786-tesla-fair-value-of-825><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has traded well above 100 times sales in the past, today it trades at nearly 100 times earnings. Nobody ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4509786-tesla-fair-value-of-825\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4509786-tesla-fair-value-of-825","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2234623829","content_text":"Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) has been a notoriously expensive stock for most of its history. It has traded well above 100 times sales in the past, today it trades at nearly 100 times earnings. Nobody doubts that Tesla has succeeded in becoming profitable, but still, some investors think the stock is overpriced. Tesla does trade at high multiples, but its growth is also very strong. In this article, I try to settle the Tesla valuation question with a discounted cash flow (“DCF”) model. Ultimately I arrive at a $825 valuation, giving it slight upside to today’s price. However, I rate the stock a hold rather than a buy, due to concerns about its accounting.Competitive LandscapeBefore getting into my analysis of Tesla’s fair value, I have to take a look at the company’s competitive position. In a few paragraphs, I will make a revenue growth estimate for Tesla that is above EV industry averages. A company needs a solid competitive position in order to out-grow its industry, so we need to establish Tesla does have a superior market position.Some of the companies Tesla competes with include:Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY) - Second place in deliveries after Tesla, with 452,000 BEVs sold in 2021.BYD Motors (OTCPK:BYDDF) - Third place after Volkswagen, with 320,000 BEVs sold in 2021 (593,000 EVs total if you include hybrids).NIO (NIO) and Lucid Motors (LCID) - very small players but noteworthy for their “head to head” competition with Tesla. As luxury EV makers, they are playing the exact same game that Tesla is; VW and BYD ship different kinds of vehicles.Tesla is well ahead of the competition in pure-EV sedans. With 932,000 cars delivered in 2022, it sold more than double what VW did. Tesla’s dominance of the EV industry is lesser if you include trucks, trains and buses. By that standard, BYD, with 593,000 deliveries, is not too far behind Tesla.Can Tesla’s edge in electric cars continue?Right out of the gate, Tesla has an enormous competitive edge over its competitors in the form of free advertising. Elon Musk has one of the world’s biggest Twitter (TWTR) accounts, and he is in the process of “locking in” that advantage by buying Twitter. With 80 million Twitter followers, Musk can reach a lot of people without having to spend a penny on advertising. He uses this advantage to the fullest, getting free publicity through Tweets, TED talks and other unconventional channels. Generating “organic” publicity this way tends to produce superior margins, as it reduces the need for a marketing budget.It isn't easy to explain exactly how valuable Tesla's ability to market itself without paying money for advertising is, but a few points are worth keeping in mind:Tesla was named 2021's fastest growing brand by Visual Capitalist.Tesla was the world's fastest growing automaker in 2020.The company moved from 6th place to 3rd place in the list of world's most valuable automotive brands in 2022.... And all of this was achieved with no marketing budget to speak of! By contrast, Ford (F) spent $468 on marketing per each car sold in 2021.The advantage this provides Tesla is enormous. First of all, it empowers the company to spend way more money on R&D compared to the competition: at $2,984 per car sold, Tesla invests much more in research than the average car company. That can drive innovation over time.Second, this edge provides the potential for superior earnings growth. With lower costs come higher profits, and costs compound just like stock prices do. Below, you will see a model of two nearly identical companies, A and B, growing revenue by 30% and operating costs by 20%. The only difference is that company B has a marketing budget that starts at 10% of sales and grows by 40% per year. In the table below, you will see how much more profit company A has by the end of five years.Year 1Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 5Company A revenue1,0001,300169021972856Company A costs5006007208641036.8Company A profit50070097013331820Company B revenue1,0001,300169021972856Company B costs5006007208641036.8Company B marketing100140196274.4384Company B profit4005607741058.61436As you can see, company A ends up at $1,820 in profit after five years, while company B ends up at $1,612. Company A has a 29.48% CAGR growth rate in profit, while company B grows noticeably slower, at 29.12%. And, of course, Company A's profit is much higher at the end of the period.FinancialsBefore getting into my DCF model for Tesla, I have to explore its financials. It’s not enough to simply project a company’s earnings growth trend into the future, we need to look at the components that make up earnings to really gauge where profits are headed. In addition, we need to factor in variables that haven’t been reported yet but are known to be important, such as rising costs of raw materials.With that in mind, I’ve put together a table with Tesla’s most important earnings-related metrics for the last five years.20172018201920202021Revenue$11.75B$21.46B$24.57B$31.53B$53.8BCost of sales$9.53B$17.42B$20.51B$18.9B$40.2BOperating expenses$3.855B$4.430B$4.138B$4.636B$7BTotal costs$13.385B$21.85B$24.64B$23.56B$47.2BAdjusted EPS$-1.80$-0.27$0.03$2.24$6.78Based on the numbers above, we get growth rates of:36% CAGR in revenue.28% CAGR in costs.If historical trends were to continue into the future, we would expect growing profits. In my estimate, Tesla’s profits will in fact grow. However, we can’t just project past growth into the future. We need to know what factors are going to drive growth in revenue and costs going forward.Revenue is hard to predict because it depends on many factors: demand, supply chains, availability of raw materials and more. We could start from what industry experts are expecting for the market: Facts and Factors expects 24.5% CAGR growth in EVs to 2027. We also know that $53 billion is an enormous amount of revenue, which means that future revenue growth is unlikely to match that observed in the past. We would expect some deceleration. On the other hand, Tesla has advantages over other EV companies, such as brand recognition, a network of charging stations, and free social media advertising. So, we have reasons to expect deceleration, as well as reasons to think Tesla will outperform the industry. So, I’ll estimate Tesla’s future revenue growth at 30% CAGR–above the industry average but slower than Tesla in the past.Estimating Tesla’s costs is a bit easier. We know that car manufacturing is a high variable cost business and that costs increase with each car. So costs will correlate with revenue somewhat. Additionally we know that Tesla’s suppliers are charging it higher prices this year. So, I’ll estimate that total costs grow at 29% CAGR–essentially I’m expecting the past cost trend to continue but nudging it up 100 basis points to reflect this year’s supplier price hikes.The only step left before doing our earnings forecast is to convert the raw ingredients into per share amounts. In its most recent quarter, Tesla had 1.157 billion shares outstanding, so:The $53.8 billion in revenue turns into $46.49 per share.The $47.2 billion in costs turns into $40.79 per share.Starting with these amounts for the base year, we get (on a per share basis):base20222023202420252026REV$46.49$60.43$78.56$102.13$132.78$172.61COST$40.79$52.61$67.87$87.56$112.95$145EBIT$5.7$7.82$10.69$14.57$19.83$27.61Based on these forecasts, we can do a simple DCF model on five years' worth of Tesla's earnings:TOTALCash flows$7.82$10.69$14.57$19.83$27.61N/A(1+r)^n1.0831.1721.271.3751.489N/ADiscounted CF$7.22$9.12$11.47$14.42$24.03$66.26So, our present value for 5 years’ worth of cash flows/EBIT is $66.26 per share. That’s not bad. The only step left is to find a terminal value for Tesla. I’ve assumed a discount rate of 8.3% for the purposes of this analysis. If Tesla’s earnings growth levels off to 4.5% after 5 years, then we get a terminal value of $759. So, we have approximately $66 in discounted cash flows, and a terminal value of $759. That leaves us with a fair value of $825.Why Tesla Eludes an Easy ValuationAs I’ve showed, a basic DCF valuation would say that Tesla is worth $825–slightly more than it’s worth now. This valuation justifies a rating ranging from \"hold\" to a slight buy. That’s what we get with some reasonably conservative estimates of future growth. But before you buy TSLA based on this model, you need to consider some factors that could cause the stock to behave differently than expected.One of these is accounting. Many analysts think that Tesla is aggressively recognizing and potentially overstating its revenue. Without fully endorsing this view, I can give plausible reasons someone would believe it.For example, in fiscal 2021, Tesla reported $5.7 billion in inventory on hand. That was an increase of $1.7 billion from the same quarter a year before. The rate of growth in inventory accelerated as well: in the prior two years, inventory only grew in the hundreds of millions of dollars.It could be that Tesla simply expects a lot more sales in 2022 and is holding inventory for that reason. However, some argue that Tesla simply isn’t selling as many cars as it claims it is. It is well known that Tesla collects cash for transactions that aren’t “sales.” We know, for example, that you can pre-order a Cybertruck, even though the truck isn’t being delivered. Under GAAP, you’re not supposed to count a payment as “revenue” until the product in question is delivered.Could Tesla be bundling Cybertruck deposits with revenue to juice its sales numbers? Ultimately, we don’t know. Over the years, analysts have voiced many concerns with Tesla’s accounting. In addition to the one just mentioned, there have also been concerns about Tesla capitalizing inventory instead of expensing it, in order to boost its margins. If all of these things are going on, then Tesla’s revenue and profit are both being overstated. I do not claim that they are: there are other explanations for the peculiarities I noticed above. But, Tesla’s peculiar accounting is a risk factor to keep in mind.The Bottom LineThe bottom line on Tesla is this:If we can indeed take its financial statements at face value, then its stock is probably worth at least $800. As my discounted cash flow valuation shows, you get to $825 just by assuming five years of strong growth followed by an eternity of sluggish growth. It’s possible that Tesla will not meet the growth figures I estimated for the five-year period, but on the flipside, it could easily continue growing for much more than five years. So, TSLA’s current stock price is not totally unreasonable – assuming its accounting can be trusted.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":388,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9034880159,"gmtCreate":1647851931586,"gmtModify":1676534271834,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"To the moon!!!","listText":"To the moon!!!","text":"To the moon!!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9034880159","repostId":"1109570743","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1109570743","pubTimestamp":1647830939,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1109570743?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-21 10:48","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Tesla a Good Stock to Buy in 2022? Yes, But Carefully.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1109570743","media":"investorplace","summary":"Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), with a revenue of $53.8 billion and a market capitalization of $900 billion, ha","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), with a revenue of $53.8 billion and a market capitalization of $900 billion, has often been seen as an overvalued stock by analysts. However, the sentiment seems to be changing as gas prices continue to rise. Naturally, Tesla sales have already started to soar, and I believe it is just the start.</p><p>With Russia, the country that produces the most crude oil (the primary ingredient for gasoline) at war, gas prices can be expected to stay elevated for a lot longer than what was previously forecasted. Moreover, it is almost certain that many countries will be reducing their energy dependence on Russia. If that happens, gas prices will naturally go up as other suppliers have to cope with a sudden rise in demand.</p><p>Of course, Tesla cars are costly. However, gas costs also add up over time. Gas prices can be even more of a headache for those living in the rural U.S., where cars are almost a necessity.</p><p>Without a decline in gas prices, consumers might find Tesla cars more economical in the long term.</p><h2>TSLA Stock Is Still a Buy in the Long Term</h2><p>TSLA is still overvalued, at least from a conventional viewpoint. However, there is more to a stock than just its earnings and market cap. TSLA has been fundamentally overvalued for almost a decade, but it has still gone up.</p><p>For example, someone following this 2013 article would’ve missed out on the 2,100%-plus worth of gains TSLA has since had.</p><p>In a nutshell, traditional metrics don’t seem to work for TSLA. Furthermore, Tesla has continued to have exceptional revenue growth, and it is slowly bridging the gap between its market cap and revenue.</p><p>It is still worthwhile to remember that the market is very unpredictable. If the current world situation leads to a recession, there’s no doubt that TSLA would nosedive along with the rest of the market. A recession can also drag down gasoline prices, like it did in 2008 and 2020.</p><p>However, I still believe that even in the case of a recession, TSLA can recover in the long term. Tesla has been rapidly expanding, and in a world where countries are shifting more towards renewable energy, it would not be far-fetched to see TSLA valued more.</p><h2>Can TSLA Compete in the Long Term?</h2><p>Tesla took electric vehicles seriously early on, which gave it an edge over its competitors. Even now, Tesla still does not face any significant competition from its main competitors, and the company has essentially dominated the EV industry. Moreover, Tesla has the most advanced self-driving features of any car and one of the lowest maintenance costs. They’re essentially doing to EVs what Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) did with phones, offering user-friendliness at a premium.</p><p>Tesla’s competitors will undoubtedly catch up in the long run. However, Tesla will still command a significant portion of EV sales due to its popularity alone.</p><p>TSLA’s growth prospects also seem to be very promising. In 2021, Tesla produced over 930,000 cars. Moreover, it aims to reach 20 million EV sales per year by 2030 , and at Tesla’s current growth rate, it is definitely possible.</p><p>One should also note that Tesla is not just an EV company. It produces many energy products that add to its revenue, such as solar roofs and storage or charging solutions. They will also undoubtedly profit from the world’s transition to renewable energy. In short, I believe that TSLA is here to stay for the long term.</p><p>TSLA stock is still a risky buy in the short term due to the market’s uncertainty. However, I still believe that in the case of a market crash, Tesla will still inevitably recover. If a recession does not occur in the near future, the stock will likely reverse trends due to rising gas prices and soaring sales.</p><p>I do believe that in the long term, it can return a lot of profit. For the short term, making big moves in the current uncertain market is still very risky and should be avoided. Thus, I believe that anyone that seeks into invest in TSLA stock should not invest large amounts of capital. At least until the market shows more stability.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla a Good Stock to Buy in 2022? 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Yes, But Carefully.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-21 10:48 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/03/why-tsla-stock-can-still-be-profitable/><strong>investorplace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), with a revenue of $53.8 billion and a market capitalization of $900 billion, has often been seen as an overvalued stock by analysts. However, the sentiment seems to be changing as...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/why-tsla-stock-can-still-be-profitable/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/03/why-tsla-stock-can-still-be-profitable/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1109570743","content_text":"Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), with a revenue of $53.8 billion and a market capitalization of $900 billion, has often been seen as an overvalued stock by analysts. However, the sentiment seems to be changing as gas prices continue to rise. Naturally, Tesla sales have already started to soar, and I believe it is just the start.With Russia, the country that produces the most crude oil (the primary ingredient for gasoline) at war, gas prices can be expected to stay elevated for a lot longer than what was previously forecasted. Moreover, it is almost certain that many countries will be reducing their energy dependence on Russia. If that happens, gas prices will naturally go up as other suppliers have to cope with a sudden rise in demand.Of course, Tesla cars are costly. However, gas costs also add up over time. Gas prices can be even more of a headache for those living in the rural U.S., where cars are almost a necessity.Without a decline in gas prices, consumers might find Tesla cars more economical in the long term.TSLA Stock Is Still a Buy in the Long TermTSLA is still overvalued, at least from a conventional viewpoint. However, there is more to a stock than just its earnings and market cap. TSLA has been fundamentally overvalued for almost a decade, but it has still gone up.For example, someone following this 2013 article would’ve missed out on the 2,100%-plus worth of gains TSLA has since had.In a nutshell, traditional metrics don’t seem to work for TSLA. Furthermore, Tesla has continued to have exceptional revenue growth, and it is slowly bridging the gap between its market cap and revenue.It is still worthwhile to remember that the market is very unpredictable. If the current world situation leads to a recession, there’s no doubt that TSLA would nosedive along with the rest of the market. A recession can also drag down gasoline prices, like it did in 2008 and 2020.However, I still believe that even in the case of a recession, TSLA can recover in the long term. Tesla has been rapidly expanding, and in a world where countries are shifting more towards renewable energy, it would not be far-fetched to see TSLA valued more.Can TSLA Compete in the Long Term?Tesla took electric vehicles seriously early on, which gave it an edge over its competitors. Even now, Tesla still does not face any significant competition from its main competitors, and the company has essentially dominated the EV industry. Moreover, Tesla has the most advanced self-driving features of any car and one of the lowest maintenance costs. They’re essentially doing to EVs what Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) did with phones, offering user-friendliness at a premium.Tesla’s competitors will undoubtedly catch up in the long run. However, Tesla will still command a significant portion of EV sales due to its popularity alone.TSLA’s growth prospects also seem to be very promising. In 2021, Tesla produced over 930,000 cars. Moreover, it aims to reach 20 million EV sales per year by 2030 , and at Tesla’s current growth rate, it is definitely possible.One should also note that Tesla is not just an EV company. It produces many energy products that add to its revenue, such as solar roofs and storage or charging solutions. They will also undoubtedly profit from the world’s transition to renewable energy. In short, I believe that TSLA is here to stay for the long term.TSLA stock is still a risky buy in the short term due to the market’s uncertainty. However, I still believe that in the case of a market crash, Tesla will still inevitably recover. If a recession does not occur in the near future, the stock will likely reverse trends due to rising gas prices and soaring sales.I do believe that in the long term, it can return a lot of profit. For the short term, making big moves in the current uncertain market is still very risky and should be avoided. Thus, I believe that anyone that seeks into invest in TSLA stock should not invest large amounts of capital. At least until the market shows more stability.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":93,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9034880957,"gmtCreate":1647851893840,"gmtModify":1676534271825,"author":{"id":"3572345879517399","authorId":"3572345879517399","name":"Donkie","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fb7fe541a41e219462b7e70a301af95","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great!!👍👍","listText":"Great!!👍👍","text":"Great!!👍👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9034880957","repostId":"1168356732","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1168356732","pubTimestamp":1647841886,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1168356732?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-03-21 13:51","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Sofi Financial Stock Looks Attractive Down Here","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1168356732","media":"marketbeat","summary":"Personal finance company Sofi Technologies (NASDAQ: SOFI) stock has been punished with the benchmark","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Personal finance company Sofi Technologies (NASDAQ: SOFI) stock has been punished with the benchmark index sell-off despite seeing strong growth in its various segments. </p><p>The popular provider of loans ranging from student, personal and home saw record growth in 2021 as it grew its customer base to 3.5 million users, up over 80%. The Company will benefit from the projected seven interest rate hikes in 2022 to combat raging inflation. </p><p>Further tailwinds from its bank charter should materialize for its top and bottom lines. </p><p>Sofi is acquiring cloud core banking platform Technisys to help vertically integrate its business segments and accelerate growth opportunities. </p><p>Prudent investors seeking a bargain entry into a rising fintech player can watch for opportunistic pullbacks in shares of Sofi Technologies.</p><h2>Q4 Fiscal 2021 Earnings Release</h2><p>On March 1, 2022, Sofi released its fiscal fourth-quarter 2021 results for the quarter ending December 2021. </p><p>The Company reported diluted adjust earnings-per-share (EPS) loss of (-$0.15) missing consensus analyst estimates for a loss of (-$0.12) by (-$0.03). Total revenues rose 53.8% YoY to $279.88 million versus $2279.47 million consensus analyst estimates. </p><p>The Company hit a record 523,000 quarterly new members, up 39% sequentially and 906,000 quarterly new product adds up 51% sequentially. </p><p>Sofi CEO Anthony Noto commented, “We hit new highs across our key financial and operating metrics in the fourth quarter, finishing 2021 with record annual results. </p><p>Adjusted net revenue of $280 million was another quarterly record for us, up 54% year-over-year and up sequentially, even with the unexpected extension of the federal student loan payment moratorium in late December. </p><p>We exceeded $1 billion in annual adjusted net revenue for the first time. We also delivered fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA of $5 million — our sixth consecutive positive quarter — resulting in positive full-year adjusted EBITDA of $30 million. </p><p>The best part is that we were able to reach both our adjusted revenue and adjusted EBITDA milestones ahead of plan in an increasingly challenging operating environment, while also significantly exceeding our member growth guidance.”</p><h2>Mixed Revenue Guidance</h2><p>Sofi issued downside earnings guidance for fiscal Q1 2022 with revenues expected between $280 million to $285 million versus $303.56 analyst estimates. </p><p>The Company raised its fiscal full-year 2022 guidance for revenues coming in at $1.57 billion versus $1.45 billion consensus analyst estimates</p><h2>Conference Call Takeaways</h2><p>CEO Noto continued to hammer in the point of Sofi hitting new highs across key financial metrics including 54% YoY top line growth. </p><p>Growth continued in all three of its business segments generating over $1 billion in total annual sales for 2021 and sixth consecutive quarter of adjust EBITDA. </p><p>Sofi ended 2021 with 3.5 million total members, up 87% YoY. Its Galileo subsidiary grew account by 67% to 100 million. Personal loan originations grew 168% YoY in Q4 2021 credited to enhancements to its technology, quality of loans, and credit models. </p><p>The Company grew purchased home loans from low single-digits to low-double digits in relation to total home loan value percentages. Sofi relaunched jumbo loans in the second half of 2021 helping to drive growth despite rising rates. </p><p>Student loans grew 50% sequentially originating over $1.5 billion ahead of the January federal student loan moratorium deadline. </p><p>The Company expects continued acceleration to loans growth driven by opportunities bestowed upon it from the new bank license it acquired in 2021. </p><p>The Company added 2.5 million new financial services products in 2021 and launched services like SoFi Money, SoFi Checking and Savings offering members 1% APR and the SoFi Credit Card, which gives rewards for both purchases and smart financial behaviors.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/11c0dd4f91cd53ca924421a78e322418\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"1133\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><h2>SOFI Opportunistic Pullback Levels</h2><p>Using the rifle charts on the weekly and daily time frames provide a precise view of the price action playing field for SOFI stock. The weekly rifle chart peaked off the $24.68 Fibonacci (fib) level before collapsing towards the $7.52 fib afterwards. </p><p>The weekly rifle chart has a downtrend with a falling 5-period moving average (MA) at $9.90 followed by the 15-period MA at $12.42. The stochastic is compressed under the 10-band indicating very oversold conditions. </p><p>The weekly lower Bollinger Bands (BBs) sit at $3.80. The weekly 50-period MA sit at $16.09. The daily rifle chart downtrend is starting to slow down as the market structure low (MSL) buy triggers above $8.76. </p><p>The daily 5-period MA is flattening at $8.43 while 15-period MA closes the channel at $13.08. The daily stochastic is attempting to cross up at the 10-band. The daily lower BBs are coiling up at $6.96. Prudent investors can watch for opportunistic pullbacks at the $8.00 level, $7.52 fib level, $6.66 level, $5.56 level, and the $4.43 price level. </p><p>Upside trajectories range from the $11.83 level up towards the $17.69 fib level.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Sofi Financial Stock Looks Attractive Down Here</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nSofi Financial Stock Looks Attractive Down Here\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-03-21 13:51 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.marketbeat.com/originals/sofi-financial-stock-looks-attractive-down-here/><strong>marketbeat</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Personal finance company Sofi Technologies (NASDAQ: SOFI) stock has been punished with the benchmark index sell-off despite seeing strong growth in its various segments. The popular provider of loans ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.marketbeat.com/originals/sofi-financial-stock-looks-attractive-down-here/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SOFI":"SoFi Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.marketbeat.com/originals/sofi-financial-stock-looks-attractive-down-here/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1168356732","content_text":"Personal finance company Sofi Technologies (NASDAQ: SOFI) stock has been punished with the benchmark index sell-off despite seeing strong growth in its various segments. The popular provider of loans ranging from student, personal and home saw record growth in 2021 as it grew its customer base to 3.5 million users, up over 80%. The Company will benefit from the projected seven interest rate hikes in 2022 to combat raging inflation. Further tailwinds from its bank charter should materialize for its top and bottom lines. Sofi is acquiring cloud core banking platform Technisys to help vertically integrate its business segments and accelerate growth opportunities. Prudent investors seeking a bargain entry into a rising fintech player can watch for opportunistic pullbacks in shares of Sofi Technologies.Q4 Fiscal 2021 Earnings ReleaseOn March 1, 2022, Sofi released its fiscal fourth-quarter 2021 results for the quarter ending December 2021. The Company reported diluted adjust earnings-per-share (EPS) loss of (-$0.15) missing consensus analyst estimates for a loss of (-$0.12) by (-$0.03). Total revenues rose 53.8% YoY to $279.88 million versus $2279.47 million consensus analyst estimates. The Company hit a record 523,000 quarterly new members, up 39% sequentially and 906,000 quarterly new product adds up 51% sequentially. Sofi CEO Anthony Noto commented, “We hit new highs across our key financial and operating metrics in the fourth quarter, finishing 2021 with record annual results. Adjusted net revenue of $280 million was another quarterly record for us, up 54% year-over-year and up sequentially, even with the unexpected extension of the federal student loan payment moratorium in late December. We exceeded $1 billion in annual adjusted net revenue for the first time. We also delivered fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA of $5 million — our sixth consecutive positive quarter — resulting in positive full-year adjusted EBITDA of $30 million. The best part is that we were able to reach both our adjusted revenue and adjusted EBITDA milestones ahead of plan in an increasingly challenging operating environment, while also significantly exceeding our member growth guidance.”Mixed Revenue GuidanceSofi issued downside earnings guidance for fiscal Q1 2022 with revenues expected between $280 million to $285 million versus $303.56 analyst estimates. The Company raised its fiscal full-year 2022 guidance for revenues coming in at $1.57 billion versus $1.45 billion consensus analyst estimatesConference Call TakeawaysCEO Noto continued to hammer in the point of Sofi hitting new highs across key financial metrics including 54% YoY top line growth. Growth continued in all three of its business segments generating over $1 billion in total annual sales for 2021 and sixth consecutive quarter of adjust EBITDA. Sofi ended 2021 with 3.5 million total members, up 87% YoY. Its Galileo subsidiary grew account by 67% to 100 million. Personal loan originations grew 168% YoY in Q4 2021 credited to enhancements to its technology, quality of loans, and credit models. The Company grew purchased home loans from low single-digits to low-double digits in relation to total home loan value percentages. Sofi relaunched jumbo loans in the second half of 2021 helping to drive growth despite rising rates. Student loans grew 50% sequentially originating over $1.5 billion ahead of the January federal student loan moratorium deadline. The Company expects continued acceleration to loans growth driven by opportunities bestowed upon it from the new bank license it acquired in 2021. The Company added 2.5 million new financial services products in 2021 and launched services like SoFi Money, SoFi Checking and Savings offering members 1% APR and the SoFi Credit Card, which gives rewards for both purchases and smart financial behaviors.SOFI Opportunistic Pullback LevelsUsing the rifle charts on the weekly and daily time frames provide a precise view of the price action playing field for SOFI stock. The weekly rifle chart peaked off the $24.68 Fibonacci (fib) level before collapsing towards the $7.52 fib afterwards. The weekly rifle chart has a downtrend with a falling 5-period moving average (MA) at $9.90 followed by the 15-period MA at $12.42. The stochastic is compressed under the 10-band indicating very oversold conditions. The weekly lower Bollinger Bands (BBs) sit at $3.80. The weekly 50-period MA sit at $16.09. The daily rifle chart downtrend is starting to slow down as the market structure low (MSL) buy triggers above $8.76. The daily 5-period MA is flattening at $8.43 while 15-period MA closes the channel at $13.08. The daily stochastic is attempting to cross up at the 10-band. The daily lower BBs are coiling up at $6.96. Prudent investors can watch for opportunistic pullbacks at the $8.00 level, $7.52 fib level, $6.66 level, $5.56 level, and the $4.43 price level. Upside trajectories range from the $11.83 level up towards the $17.69 fib level.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":176,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}