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2023-05-12

It's nice knowing everyone. Take care.

ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments

2023-06-28

SA is just coin flipping their opinion

Tesla Stock: No AI Hype Here - Buy The Dip

2023-10-14

woke up on the bullish side of the bed for today

Tesla: My Long-Term Bull Thesis (Rating Upgrade)

2021-07-08

Yes

JPMorgan Bosses Predict Banks’ Long Trading Slump Gone for Good

2022-07-10

Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. It's a prettybasic equation

Tesla’s China Sales Increase Provides Little Substance

2023-04-21

As much as I love Tesla. Robotaxi still looks like quite a stretch 🫣

Cathie Wood Puts a $2,000 Price Target on Tesla for 2027, Driven By Robotaxis

2021-06-30

Nice

Tech stocks propel S&P 500, Nasdaq to fresh highs

2023-06-07

$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ it's going a lil out of hand yeah?

2023-03-03

Thanks for the discount 🤤

Tesla Stock Jumps 2% in Premarket Trading

2022-05-08

The scale of its production and speed of its expansion is unmatched.

TSLA Stock News: 3 Biggest Headlines That Tesla Investors Need to Know This Week

2022-04-27

Madness

Why I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford

2022-04-20

What nonsense?

Is The End Near For Musk And Tesla?

2023-05-25

$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ Had great value long before the AI boom

2023-03-14

Most certainly never Rivian

Better Buy: Tesla, or a 50/50 Split Between Nio and Rivian?

2021-06-17

Cool

Facebook's Hardware Business Is Creeping Into Apple's Backyard

09-29

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08-05

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2023-06-09

Just horrible

NIO's Q1 Revenues Were $1,554.6 Million; Net Loss Was $690.1 Million

2023-05-26

All the bears. Seeking Alpha! Where you at ?? [LOL] [LOL]

Nvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars

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well-positioned to achieve additional moats in its ancillary industries.</p></li><li><p>They have a history of achieving attractive returns. I believe they will become a long-term compounder.</p></li><li><p>After reviewing their present financials and valuation, I currently rate Tesla stock a Buy.</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_284327236\">Thesis</h2><p>A few days ago, I was in a discussion with a friend about his recent <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla, Inc.</a> stock acquisition and told him I thought he would likely be quite happy with his purchase a decade from now. When he asked me why, I gave him a brief on two high margin revenue streams that Tesla is in the process of developing. I am detailing the points I made to him in this article.</p><p>As much as I am quite bullish on their long-term prospects, when I wrote my last article on Tesla in April, I was hesitant to place a buy rating because of a combination of their margin contraction caused by price drops and our inverted yield curve. However, with the UAW strike providing significant problems for the Big Three, Tesla&#39;s short and medium term prospects have improved significantly. After reviewing their financials and present valuation, I currently rate TSLA as a Buy.</p><h2 id=\"id_1523361003\">Company Background</h2><p>Tesla produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems. They are a leading developer of self-driving software, and have expanded into machine learning with the development of their own supercomputer called Dojo. They maintain operations in the United States, China, and internationally. The company was founded in 2003 and and is currently headquartered in Austin, Texas.</p><p>Tesla maintains an Automotive segment, and an Energy Generation and Storage segment. Their Automotive segment offers electric vehicles and ancillary products and services. This segment includes their network of Superchargers and service locations, in-app upgrades and mobile services, financing and leasing services, and warranties and extended service plans.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f11caf4cecf2747046aec98ae4c6af65\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"714\"/></p><p>TSLA Automotive Market Share (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 9)</p><p>Their Energy Generation and Storage segment provides photovoltaic generation, storage products, and related services. It maintains a website as well as stores and galleries, and also reaches customers through a network of channel partners. They offer various financing options to their solar customers.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/805bb136adcb87dd8973826d009888a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"668\"/></p><p>TSLA Energy Storage And Services (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)</p><h2 id=\"id_2603697569\">Long-Term Trends</h2><p>The global electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;) market is projected to have a CAGR of 22.1% until 2030. The global autonomous vehicle market is projected to have a CAGR of 35% through 2032. The global electric vehicle charging station market is projected to have a CAGR of 37.7% until 2033. The energy storage market is projected to have a CAGR of 14.31% through 2028. The global photovoltaic market is projected have a CAGR of 10.1% during the forecast period.</p><h2 id=\"id_1091166465\">The Future Of Self-Driving</h2><p>Tesla is in the process of improving its capabilities on multiple fronts. They have been working toward full self-driving (&#34;FSD&#34;) for many years. As part of this effort, they announced Dojo at their AI Day event on August 19, 2021.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/24792668f6b7252a5e3ff7db263f25fe\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"643\"/></p><p>TSLA Dojo Projections (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)</p><p>As progress continues on establishing superior reliability and safety capabilities, it will eventually become clear that autonomous vehicles are safer than human drivers. Once a certain statistical threshold has been met, insurance companies are going to be willing to offer lower rates to drivers who use proven autonomous driving software.</p><p>What I believe frequently gets overlooked is the pressure this will place on entities who operate large fleets of vehicles. They will be financially incentivized to transition to autonomous capable vehicles. While most of the auto industry has been working toward their own versions of autonomous driving, Tesla has a capability lead on most of them. If insurance companies are willing to offer users of Tesla&#39;s software better rates, this will incentivize Tesla&#39;s competition to manufacture vehicles which are capable of running a variety of software packages.</p><p>Their Autopilot has access to more raw data than any of their competitors. This gives them a significant lead on reaching full capability more quickly than any other autonomous driving software provider.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7e4a0ee3836625fe05862be235be6d0d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"411\"/></p><p>TSLA Guidance Autopilot (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)</p><p>We could witness an era where it&#39;s common for people to buy a new Ford (F), General Motors (GM), or Stellantis (STLA) vehicle equipped with Tesla&#39;s autonomous driving software. This may also produce an industry of third party entities which convert vehicles to be capable of using Tesla&#39;s software. Eventually, any capability gap should close for those of their competitors who continue developing their own software packages, so this period may only last a few years. However, the trend of vehicles being manufactured with multi-software capability may continue even after the gap closes. Being able to purchase a vehicle capable of using a variety of self-driving software packages may eventually become standard.</p><p>While I am not clear as to when this threshold will be crossed. The idea that Tesla might find themselves with a much larger market for their software than their own vehicles is extremely appealing. The pressure would have to be significant for the other auto manufacturers to make the switch. If the discounts the insurance companies are handing out are not deep enough, we may not see an adoption or we may only experience a partial adoption.</p><h2 id=\"id_766904302\">The Future Of Energy Storage</h2><p>Tesla is well positioned to benefit from ongoing changes in our energy grid. The Levelized Cost of Electricity is the most dominant factor at play when examining long-term energy infrastructure trends.</p><p>When photovoltaics reached the status of our cheapest source of electricity several years ago, additional renewable capacity seems inevitable. However, the adoption of intermittent sources warps the daily supply and demand curve for wholesale electricity. This supply and demand imbalance produced by solar is known as the Duck Curve. Excessive overproduction from solar will damage portions of the grid. This problem is severe enough that it is already common to disconnect portions of commercial scale capacity during the middle of the day. I went into further detail about how this is affecting long-term trends related to our grid in my recent article about <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FLC.AU\">Fluence</a> Energy.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39c147776dcc731a995ce851080e42f9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"380\"/></p><p>The Duck Curve (Brad Bouillon; Stanford University)</p><p>Tesla sits in a unique situation where they are involved in both grid scale storage as well as machine learning and artificial intelligence. In places where a portion of the grid is supplied by photovoltaics, storage providers are able to collect free or almost-free electricity in the middle of the day while the grid is overproducing. This electricity can later be sold back into the market in the evening when they are at their highest.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a4ac2ebf908cc8379c189eabbedc7ca5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"345\"/></p><p>Wholesale California Electricity Prices Over 24 Hrs. On A Spring Day (Charles W. Forsberg; ResearchGate, May 2020)</p><p>With the electricity collected at no cost, or almost no cost, the margins for such an operation are a function of the sheer volume one can manage divided by the maintenance costs for the batteries. This means that storage providers are incentivized to gain access to as much overproduction as possible. Over the next several decades, I believe the electricity arbitrage industry has the potential to scale with the mass adoption of solar and will become incredibly lucrative. Although it&#39;s still far too early to tell how this situation will develop, Tesla is currently well positioned to become a major player in this emerging industry.</p><p>Their Autobidder continues to find opportunities in Australia, Texas, California, and the UK. The company cites the clear advantages of growing their footprint, as each facility they build is expected to produce revenue for about 20 years.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/28f923519b920c1ce932fc27fda75a07\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"309\"/></p><p>TSLA Autobidder Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)</p><p>In 2022, their energy generation and storage segment reached 5.4% of total revenues, representing a 90% YoY increase to $1.310 billion, while the cost of revenues stands at $1.151 billion. This gives it a gross margin of 9.26%. According to a September 2023 article, Autobidder has made over $330 million in trading revenues since inception.</p><h2 id=\"id_1793167372\">Guidance</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s most recent earnings call spoke of several long-term projects they have in the works. They covered developments with the Cybertruck, which they plan to launch later this year, and also mentioned continued efforts toward developing a robotaxi. They are pleased about the adoption of the North American Charging Standard. Overall, things have been going well for them in recent months.</p><p>Their forward looking statements indicate that they expect Q3 to have lower revenue due to scheduled upgrades causing down-time through the summer months.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6b8013f2708a14570db43c0501102e3\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"186\"/></p><p>TSLA Q3 Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)</p><h2 id=\"id_1301781525\">Annual Financials</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s annual revenue has been growing at an impressive rate. In 2013 they had an annual revenue of $2,013.5M. By 2022, that had grown to $81,462M. This represents a total increase of 3945.8% at an average annual rate of 438.4%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bcc482b761f902e3e7c254040e9c8597\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Revenue (By Author)</p><p>Their annual margins have been improving over the last several years. As of the most recent annual report, gross margins were 25.60%, EBITDA margins were 21.41%, operating margins were 16.81%, and net margins were 15.41%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2ea2cc4873205f6048d485d7c8c03743\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Margins (By Author)</p><p>Like many growing companies, Tesla has been diluting to help fund expansion. Total common shares outstanding was at 1,846.4M in 2013; by the end of 2022 that rose to 3,164M. This represents a 71.4% rise in share count, which comes out to an average annual rate of 7.93%. Over that same time period, operating income rose from -$61.3M to $13,692M. Because it has come with significant improvements to income, I view this dilution as accretive.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9ae842b30302928f4ba47f1df6ca3b48\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)</p><p>Their debt situation has been improving over the last several years. As of the 2022 annual report, they had $106M in net interest expense, total debt was $5,748M, and long-term debt was $1,029M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cf2a5f6f85100d6fad8fbc763ee28c46\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"369\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Debt (By Author)</p><p>As of this most recent annual report, cash and equivalents was $16,253M, operating income was $13,692M, EBITDA was $17,439M, net income was $12,556M, unlevered free cash flow was $4,327.5M, and levered free cash flow was $4,208.1M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4749ab51b3930ace699aa8fdbc9d3042\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"366\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Cash Flow (By Author)</p><p>Their total equity has been growing quite quickly.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7668562728d6b2189d0ea9b36320c656\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"364\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Total Equity (By Author)</p><p>Annual returns have also been improving. As of the most recent annual report ROIC was 24.31%, ROCE was 17.64%, and ROE was at 27.36%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5583fd99045d634b1d656076e1699c03\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Returns (By Author)</p><h2 id=\"id_1822369943\">Quarterly Financials</h2><p>Their quarterly financials are showing significant revenue growth over the last two years. Eight quarters ago Tesla had a quarterly revenue of $11,958M. Four quarters ago that had grown to $16,934M. By this most recent quarter that had grown to $24,927M. This represents a total two-year rise of 108.4% at an average quarterly rate of 13.6%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/42d5dee77bc7ebd5bff77ffdbff2b891\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Revenue (By Author)</p><p>Their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters. As of the most recent quarter gross margins were 18.19%, EBITDA margins were 14.25%, operating margins were 9.62%, and net margins were at 10.84%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6a9552bd4abea5d4eaf5bab00ec6cbd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Margins (By Author)</p><p>Their dilution rate appears to have dropped in more recent quarters. The sum of their last eight quarters of dilution comes to 7.32%; over the last four quarters this has dropped to 1.63%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/229782b5a1c2946139d72aed133ad813\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)</p><p>Their debt situation is improving. This most recent quarter, Tesla had $210M in net interest expense, total debt was at $5811M, and long-term debt was at $504M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/429f4a8a103bf7e3ca31bf52ce141526\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"371\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Debt (By Author)</p><p>Their quarterly cash flow is inconsistent. As of the most recent earnings report, cash and equivalents were $15,296M, quarterly operating income was $2,399M, EBITDA was $3553M, net income was $2,703M, unlevered free cash flow was $894.4M, and levered free cash flow was $876.9M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/db4fae5af9d282f20ff6be83fc6eba91\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"371\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Cash Flow (By Author)</p><p>When viewed on a quarterly basis, their total equity continues to rise.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39348a9bbb1a278da180df079161da78\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"372\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Total Equity (By Author)</p><p>Their returns are trending in a similar pattern with their margins. As of the most recent earnings report ROIC was 4.66%, ROCE was 2.81%, and ROE was 5.18%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f6b3a5e5973cf51f1e4bb2acfeef013b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Returns (By Author)</p><h2 id=\"id_3002784039\">Valuation</h2><p>As of October 11th, 2023, Tesla had a market capitalization of $836.73B and traded for $262.99 per share. They do not pay a dividend, so using their forward P/E of 91.03x, and their EPS Long-Term CAGR of 19.72%, I calculated a PEGY of 4.616x and an Inverted PEGY of 0.2166x. As the PEGY value is well above 1, this implies the company is presently significantly overvalued.</p><p>However, TSLA has a history of trading at elevated valuations. They are currently trading with an EV/EBITDA of 48.73x. When viewing their EV/EBITDA over the last 5 years, it&#39;s clear that its present valuation is historically not as overvalued as it has reached in the past.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d884e507e04fa1ef07ee4d2ca9e62583\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"230\"/></p><p>TSLA 5 Year EV/EBITDA (Seeking Alpha)</p><h2 id=\"id_3723830278\">Risks</h2><p>Tesla faces a large number of competitors. A majority of the already established auto manufacturers on the planet are developing or already producing their own EV&#39;s and alternative fuel vehicles. This developing industry has also attracted a significant number of speculative startups. Because of Tesla&#39;s first mover advantage, and the time it will take to develop a viable product from nothing, I expect that the effects of this increasing competitive pressure will come on gradually.</p><p>Autonomous driving may take longer to reach full maturity than they expect. Progress is expected to continue on its logistic growth curve, with most of the easy breakthroughs having already been made. The company already has a viable product, but they need a huge amount of additional data and time to fine tune it and make further safety and reliability improvements. It will likely be difficult to tell when they have actually crossed above the threshold where their FSD software can be called &#34;fully mature.&#34;</p><p>As always with innovators, Tesla runs the risk of overspending to stay relevant. Developing their own hardware and software for machine learning may end up costing more than they expect, or not be as profitable as they project. The push to develop A.I. is spawning development across the industry, and Tesla is merely one of many companies working on their own projects. While I believe the decision to move into machine learning was good for the long-term health of the company, it&#39;s always possible the additional cost of joining the first movers will not be worth the benefits.</p><h2 id=\"id_2771406227\">Catalysts</h2><p>Tesla faces several catalysts, most of which are not near term. Tesla has cut prices several times earlier this year. This should produce additional demand and help them capture market share. Tesla has been normalizing electric vehicle use; at some point we will cross the threshold where it&#39;s more normal culturally to drive an electric or alternative fuel vehicle than a gasoline or diesel.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s overall engineering quality is extremely high. Tesla is several generations into EV development and their design philosophy has them continuously making performance improvements. For a specific example of what I am referencing, YouTube has videos of Sandy Munro comparing the thermal systems of the Mach-E and the Model Y. They are eye-opening.</p><p>As stated above, I believe demand for their FSD software will increase once the insurance providers are willing to offer discounts. Organizations which maintain fleets of vehicles will have to justify not transitioning to the cheaper option. This is likely to affect everyone from car rental companies and taxi services, to government employees and utility vehicles. Demand for FSD may also spur their competition into producing vehicles which are capable of using Tesla&#39;s driverless software.</p><p>Tesla is joining several others in the development of Iron-Air batteries. These types of batteries are significantly cheaper than the Li-ion we are all accustomed to. Tesla already operates a grid scale energy storage facility in Texas. The dramatic cost savings of Iron-Air batteries makes them a disruptive technology. Our electric grid currently requires a significant contribution from base load providers. As we increase its storage capacity, I believe the bargaining power the base load providers currently have will diminish as most of the negotiating power will shift to the storage providers.</p><p>Also, storage providers will experience sustained tailwinds from the continued adoption of solar as they profit from daily arbitrage opportunities. Because of their dramatically lower cost of production, the adoption of iron-air batteries should both lower cost of expansion and improve margins for their energy storage division.</p><p>Tesla achieves rather high margins for a manufacturer. As producers in other industries realize that the reason Tesla is achieving superior margins and return on capital is due to their preference for automated manufacturing, the demand for Tesla-style facilities should rise. The company could eventually open a subsidiary which establishes automated manufacturing facilities for other companies.</p><h2 id=\"id_2355894248\">Conclusions</h2><p>Normally, I refuse to place buy ratings on any company this overvalued. However, I believe the current UAW strike will provide continued tailwinds for Tesla, Inc.&#39;s share price as it continues. Add to this the fact that they have a history of achieving unreasonably high valuations and its present valuation becomes less of a concern. This is one of the few occasions where I am willing to hand out a buy rating on a ticker when I am unable to clearly see that it&#39;s trading below its intrinsic value. I believe Tesla has unrecognized long-term growth potential, so it potentially may have a hidden margin of safety.</p><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. appears to be an extremely attractive investment because of their culture of adaptation and innovation. While I cannot guarantee that their current endeavors will lead to future moats, they have already established themselves as a premier EV producer and have the potential to find themselves with multiple high margin revenue streams. Although their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters, they have proven they are capable of producing attractive returns.</p><p>I believe Tesla stock is likely to become the long-term compounder that its present investors hope it will be. So even if buying at today&#39;s prices ends up being a lackluster entry in the short or medium term, long-term Tesla, Inc. shareholders are unlikely to be punished for it.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: My Long-Term Bull Thesis (Rating Upgrade)</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: My Long-Term Bull Thesis (Rating Upgrade)\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-10-14 15:42 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4640677-tesla-my-long-term-bull-thesis-rating-upgrade><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems.Tesla has already established itself as a premier EV producer and is well-positioned to achieve ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4640677-tesla-my-long-term-bull-thesis-rating-upgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4640677-tesla-my-long-term-bull-thesis-rating-upgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2375871947","content_text":"Tesla, Inc. produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems.Tesla has already established itself as a premier EV producer and is well-positioned to achieve additional moats in its ancillary industries.They have a history of achieving attractive returns. I believe they will become a long-term compounder.After reviewing their present financials and valuation, I currently rate Tesla stock a Buy.ThesisA few days ago, I was in a discussion with a friend about his recent Tesla, Inc. stock acquisition and told him I thought he would likely be quite happy with his purchase a decade from now. When he asked me why, I gave him a brief on two high margin revenue streams that Tesla is in the process of developing. I am detailing the points I made to him in this article.As much as I am quite bullish on their long-term prospects, when I wrote my last article on Tesla in April, I was hesitant to place a buy rating because of a combination of their margin contraction caused by price drops and our inverted yield curve. However, with the UAW strike providing significant problems for the Big Three, Tesla's short and medium term prospects have improved significantly. After reviewing their financials and present valuation, I currently rate TSLA as a Buy.Company BackgroundTesla produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems. They are a leading developer of self-driving software, and have expanded into machine learning with the development of their own supercomputer called Dojo. They maintain operations in the United States, China, and internationally. The company was founded in 2003 and and is currently headquartered in Austin, Texas.Tesla maintains an Automotive segment, and an Energy Generation and Storage segment. Their Automotive segment offers electric vehicles and ancillary products and services. This segment includes their network of Superchargers and service locations, in-app upgrades and mobile services, financing and leasing services, and warranties and extended service plans.TSLA Automotive Market Share (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 9)Their Energy Generation and Storage segment provides photovoltaic generation, storage products, and related services. It maintains a website as well as stores and galleries, and also reaches customers through a network of channel partners. They offer various financing options to their solar customers.TSLA Energy Storage And Services (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)Long-Term TrendsThe global electric vehicle (\"EV\") market is projected to have a CAGR of 22.1% until 2030. The global autonomous vehicle market is projected to have a CAGR of 35% through 2032. The global electric vehicle charging station market is projected to have a CAGR of 37.7% until 2033. The energy storage market is projected to have a CAGR of 14.31% through 2028. The global photovoltaic market is projected have a CAGR of 10.1% during the forecast period.The Future Of Self-DrivingTesla is in the process of improving its capabilities on multiple fronts. They have been working toward full self-driving (\"FSD\") for many years. As part of this effort, they announced Dojo at their AI Day event on August 19, 2021.TSLA Dojo Projections (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)As progress continues on establishing superior reliability and safety capabilities, it will eventually become clear that autonomous vehicles are safer than human drivers. Once a certain statistical threshold has been met, insurance companies are going to be willing to offer lower rates to drivers who use proven autonomous driving software.What I believe frequently gets overlooked is the pressure this will place on entities who operate large fleets of vehicles. They will be financially incentivized to transition to autonomous capable vehicles. While most of the auto industry has been working toward their own versions of autonomous driving, Tesla has a capability lead on most of them. If insurance companies are willing to offer users of Tesla's software better rates, this will incentivize Tesla's competition to manufacture vehicles which are capable of running a variety of software packages.Their Autopilot has access to more raw data than any of their competitors. This gives them a significant lead on reaching full capability more quickly than any other autonomous driving software provider.TSLA Guidance Autopilot (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)We could witness an era where it's common for people to buy a new Ford (F), General Motors (GM), or Stellantis (STLA) vehicle equipped with Tesla's autonomous driving software. This may also produce an industry of third party entities which convert vehicles to be capable of using Tesla's software. Eventually, any capability gap should close for those of their competitors who continue developing their own software packages, so this period may only last a few years. However, the trend of vehicles being manufactured with multi-software capability may continue even after the gap closes. Being able to purchase a vehicle capable of using a variety of self-driving software packages may eventually become standard.While I am not clear as to when this threshold will be crossed. The idea that Tesla might find themselves with a much larger market for their software than their own vehicles is extremely appealing. The pressure would have to be significant for the other auto manufacturers to make the switch. If the discounts the insurance companies are handing out are not deep enough, we may not see an adoption or we may only experience a partial adoption.The Future Of Energy StorageTesla is well positioned to benefit from ongoing changes in our energy grid. The Levelized Cost of Electricity is the most dominant factor at play when examining long-term energy infrastructure trends.When photovoltaics reached the status of our cheapest source of electricity several years ago, additional renewable capacity seems inevitable. However, the adoption of intermittent sources warps the daily supply and demand curve for wholesale electricity. This supply and demand imbalance produced by solar is known as the Duck Curve. Excessive overproduction from solar will damage portions of the grid. This problem is severe enough that it is already common to disconnect portions of commercial scale capacity during the middle of the day. I went into further detail about how this is affecting long-term trends related to our grid in my recent article about Fluence Energy.The Duck Curve (Brad Bouillon; Stanford University)Tesla sits in a unique situation where they are involved in both grid scale storage as well as machine learning and artificial intelligence. In places where a portion of the grid is supplied by photovoltaics, storage providers are able to collect free or almost-free electricity in the middle of the day while the grid is overproducing. This electricity can later be sold back into the market in the evening when they are at their highest.Wholesale California Electricity Prices Over 24 Hrs. On A Spring Day (Charles W. Forsberg; ResearchGate, May 2020)With the electricity collected at no cost, or almost no cost, the margins for such an operation are a function of the sheer volume one can manage divided by the maintenance costs for the batteries. This means that storage providers are incentivized to gain access to as much overproduction as possible. Over the next several decades, I believe the electricity arbitrage industry has the potential to scale with the mass adoption of solar and will become incredibly lucrative. Although it's still far too early to tell how this situation will develop, Tesla is currently well positioned to become a major player in this emerging industry.Their Autobidder continues to find opportunities in Australia, Texas, California, and the UK. The company cites the clear advantages of growing their footprint, as each facility they build is expected to produce revenue for about 20 years.TSLA Autobidder Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)In 2022, their energy generation and storage segment reached 5.4% of total revenues, representing a 90% YoY increase to $1.310 billion, while the cost of revenues stands at $1.151 billion. This gives it a gross margin of 9.26%. According to a September 2023 article, Autobidder has made over $330 million in trading revenues since inception.GuidanceTesla's most recent earnings call spoke of several long-term projects they have in the works. They covered developments with the Cybertruck, which they plan to launch later this year, and also mentioned continued efforts toward developing a robotaxi. They are pleased about the adoption of the North American Charging Standard. Overall, things have been going well for them in recent months.Their forward looking statements indicate that they expect Q3 to have lower revenue due to scheduled upgrades causing down-time through the summer months.TSLA Q3 Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)Annual FinancialsTesla's annual revenue has been growing at an impressive rate. In 2013 they had an annual revenue of $2,013.5M. By 2022, that had grown to $81,462M. This represents a total increase of 3945.8% at an average annual rate of 438.4%.TSLA Annual Revenue (By Author)Their annual margins have been improving over the last several years. As of the most recent annual report, gross margins were 25.60%, EBITDA margins were 21.41%, operating margins were 16.81%, and net margins were 15.41%.TSLA Annual Margins (By Author)Like many growing companies, Tesla has been diluting to help fund expansion. Total common shares outstanding was at 1,846.4M in 2013; by the end of 2022 that rose to 3,164M. This represents a 71.4% rise in share count, which comes out to an average annual rate of 7.93%. Over that same time period, operating income rose from -$61.3M to $13,692M. Because it has come with significant improvements to income, I view this dilution as accretive.TSLA Annual Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)Their debt situation has been improving over the last several years. As of the 2022 annual report, they had $106M in net interest expense, total debt was $5,748M, and long-term debt was $1,029M.TSLA Annual Debt (By Author)As of this most recent annual report, cash and equivalents was $16,253M, operating income was $13,692M, EBITDA was $17,439M, net income was $12,556M, unlevered free cash flow was $4,327.5M, and levered free cash flow was $4,208.1M.TSLA Annual Cash Flow (By Author)Their total equity has been growing quite quickly.TSLA Annual Total Equity (By Author)Annual returns have also been improving. As of the most recent annual report ROIC was 24.31%, ROCE was 17.64%, and ROE was at 27.36%.TSLA Annual Returns (By Author)Quarterly FinancialsTheir quarterly financials are showing significant revenue growth over the last two years. Eight quarters ago Tesla had a quarterly revenue of $11,958M. Four quarters ago that had grown to $16,934M. By this most recent quarter that had grown to $24,927M. This represents a total two-year rise of 108.4% at an average quarterly rate of 13.6%.TSLA Quarterly Revenue (By Author)Their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters. As of the most recent quarter gross margins were 18.19%, EBITDA margins were 14.25%, operating margins were 9.62%, and net margins were at 10.84%.TSLA Quarterly Margins (By Author)Their dilution rate appears to have dropped in more recent quarters. The sum of their last eight quarters of dilution comes to 7.32%; over the last four quarters this has dropped to 1.63%.TSLA Quarterly Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)Their debt situation is improving. This most recent quarter, Tesla had $210M in net interest expense, total debt was at $5811M, and long-term debt was at $504M.TSLA Quarterly Debt (By Author)Their quarterly cash flow is inconsistent. As of the most recent earnings report, cash and equivalents were $15,296M, quarterly operating income was $2,399M, EBITDA was $3553M, net income was $2,703M, unlevered free cash flow was $894.4M, and levered free cash flow was $876.9M.TSLA Quarterly Cash Flow (By Author)When viewed on a quarterly basis, their total equity continues to rise.TSLA Quarterly Total Equity (By Author)Their returns are trending in a similar pattern with their margins. As of the most recent earnings report ROIC was 4.66%, ROCE was 2.81%, and ROE was 5.18%.TSLA Quarterly Returns (By Author)ValuationAs of October 11th, 2023, Tesla had a market capitalization of $836.73B and traded for $262.99 per share. They do not pay a dividend, so using their forward P/E of 91.03x, and their EPS Long-Term CAGR of 19.72%, I calculated a PEGY of 4.616x and an Inverted PEGY of 0.2166x. As the PEGY value is well above 1, this implies the company is presently significantly overvalued.However, TSLA has a history of trading at elevated valuations. They are currently trading with an EV/EBITDA of 48.73x. When viewing their EV/EBITDA over the last 5 years, it's clear that its present valuation is historically not as overvalued as it has reached in the past.TSLA 5 Year EV/EBITDA (Seeking Alpha)RisksTesla faces a large number of competitors. A majority of the already established auto manufacturers on the planet are developing or already producing their own EV's and alternative fuel vehicles. This developing industry has also attracted a significant number of speculative startups. Because of Tesla's first mover advantage, and the time it will take to develop a viable product from nothing, I expect that the effects of this increasing competitive pressure will come on gradually.Autonomous driving may take longer to reach full maturity than they expect. Progress is expected to continue on its logistic growth curve, with most of the easy breakthroughs having already been made. The company already has a viable product, but they need a huge amount of additional data and time to fine tune it and make further safety and reliability improvements. It will likely be difficult to tell when they have actually crossed above the threshold where their FSD software can be called \"fully mature.\"As always with innovators, Tesla runs the risk of overspending to stay relevant. Developing their own hardware and software for machine learning may end up costing more than they expect, or not be as profitable as they project. The push to develop A.I. is spawning development across the industry, and Tesla is merely one of many companies working on their own projects. While I believe the decision to move into machine learning was good for the long-term health of the company, it's always possible the additional cost of joining the first movers will not be worth the benefits.CatalystsTesla faces several catalysts, most of which are not near term. Tesla has cut prices several times earlier this year. This should produce additional demand and help them capture market share. Tesla has been normalizing electric vehicle use; at some point we will cross the threshold where it's more normal culturally to drive an electric or alternative fuel vehicle than a gasoline or diesel.Tesla's overall engineering quality is extremely high. Tesla is several generations into EV development and their design philosophy has them continuously making performance improvements. For a specific example of what I am referencing, YouTube has videos of Sandy Munro comparing the thermal systems of the Mach-E and the Model Y. They are eye-opening.As stated above, I believe demand for their FSD software will increase once the insurance providers are willing to offer discounts. Organizations which maintain fleets of vehicles will have to justify not transitioning to the cheaper option. This is likely to affect everyone from car rental companies and taxi services, to government employees and utility vehicles. Demand for FSD may also spur their competition into producing vehicles which are capable of using Tesla's driverless software.Tesla is joining several others in the development of Iron-Air batteries. These types of batteries are significantly cheaper than the Li-ion we are all accustomed to. Tesla already operates a grid scale energy storage facility in Texas. The dramatic cost savings of Iron-Air batteries makes them a disruptive technology. Our electric grid currently requires a significant contribution from base load providers. As we increase its storage capacity, I believe the bargaining power the base load providers currently have will diminish as most of the negotiating power will shift to the storage providers.Also, storage providers will experience sustained tailwinds from the continued adoption of solar as they profit from daily arbitrage opportunities. Because of their dramatically lower cost of production, the adoption of iron-air batteries should both lower cost of expansion and improve margins for their energy storage division.Tesla achieves rather high margins for a manufacturer. As producers in other industries realize that the reason Tesla is achieving superior margins and return on capital is due to their preference for automated manufacturing, the demand for Tesla-style facilities should rise. The company could eventually open a subsidiary which establishes automated manufacturing facilities for other companies.ConclusionsNormally, I refuse to place buy ratings on any company this overvalued. However, I believe the current UAW strike will provide continued tailwinds for Tesla, Inc.'s share price as it continues. Add to this the fact that they have a history of achieving unreasonably high valuations and its present valuation becomes less of a concern. This is one of the few occasions where I am willing to hand out a buy rating on a ticker when I am unable to clearly see that it's trading below its intrinsic value. I believe Tesla has unrecognized long-term growth potential, so it potentially may have a hidden margin of safety.Overall, Tesla, Inc. appears to be an extremely attractive investment because of their culture of adaptation and innovation. While I cannot guarantee that their current endeavors will lead to future moats, they have already established themselves as a premier EV producer and have the potential to find themselves with multiple high margin revenue streams. Although their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters, they have proven they are capable of producing attractive returns.I believe Tesla stock is likely to become the long-term compounder that its present investors hope it will be. So even if buying at today's prices ends up being a lackluster entry in the short or medium term, long-term Tesla, Inc. shareholders are unlikely to be punished for it.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":183,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":192234362450088,"gmtCreate":1687962674935,"gmtModify":1687962679363,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"SA is just coin flipping their opinion","listText":"SA is just coin flipping their opinion","text":"SA is just coin flipping their opinion","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/192234362450088","repostId":"2346859803","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2346859803","pubTimestamp":1687941173,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2346859803?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-28 16:32","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock: No AI Hype Here - Buy The Dip","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2346859803","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Goldman Sachs changed its buy rating to neutral regarding Tesla's shares. The investment bank also put out a $248 price target for the company's stock. Several days ago, Morgan Stanley's  Adam Jonas downgraded Tesla from a buy to a hold while raising his price target to $250 from $200. Barclay's Levy came out with a similar report, downgrading Tesla from buy to hold while growing the price target from $220 to $260. However, when were investment houses ever forward-looking or right about Tesla?I've been reporting on Tesla for about six years now. I proposed that Tesla could become a trillion-dollar company when its valuation was in the $30-50B range. I remember some people were outraged by my report, and Tesla remained one of the most shorted companies for years. Also, many analysts were skeptical of Tesla in the last few years, missing out on much of the spectacular gains over the previous decade. Therefore, while we're seeing some analysts pulling the plug on Tesla, the downgrade cycl","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p><strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has had quite a run-up since I discussed the bottom in the EV giant&#39;s share price in the $100-120 range. We&#39;ve seen Tesla&#39;s share price nearly triple, appreciating by approximately 180% since the stock price crashed to a bottom early this year. We&#39;ve recently seen a 15% correction in Tesla&#39;s share price as Goldman Sachs (GS) and other investment houses came out with &#34;downgrades&#34; after the six-month run-up in Tesla&#39;s stock.</p><p>Despite being overbought in the near term, Tesla&#39;s stock offers significant intermediate and long-term potential. While Tesla remains well-disguised as just an automaker, the EV leader offers enormous potential in energy generation and storage, robotics, AI, and more. Furthermore, Tesla should continue growing sales rapidly, and the company should continue optimizing operations and increasing profitability substantially as it moves forward. Due to its high level of profitability, significant profitability potential, and enormous growth prospects, Tesla deserves its premium valuation, and the company&#39;s stock price should appreciate considerably in the coming years.</p><h2>Technically - Buying The Dip</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/63097216b69d791a7737b3ca113fecef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"676\"/></p><p>TSLA (StockCharts.com)</p><p></p><p>Tesla recently became very overbought on a short-term basis. The stock came up too far too fast, the RSI hit 90, and other technical indicators became highly overextended. The stock price nearly tripled in about a six-month time frame. The AI hype pushed Tesla&#39;s share price to an extreme. Therefore, we&#39;re happy to see a welcomed/healthy pullback in Tesla shares. Moreover, the 50-day MA just moved above the 200-day MA, implying that Tesla&#39;s long-term technical image is strengthening. Thus, while we may see more transitory downside, anything in the $240-200 zone is a buying opportunity for Tesla&#39;s stock.</p><h2>When Were Investment Houses Positive On Tesla?</h2><p>Goldman Sachs changed its buy rating to neutral regarding Tesla&#39;s shares. The investment bank also put out a $248 price target for the company&#39;s stock. Several days ago, Morgan Stanley&#39;s (MS) Adam Jonas downgraded Tesla from a buy to a hold while raising his price target to $250 from $200. Barclay&#39;s Levy came out with a similar report, downgrading Tesla from buy to hold while growing the price target from $220 to $260. However, when were investment houses ever forward-looking or right about Tesla?</p><p>I&#39;ve been reporting on Tesla for about six years now. I proposed that Tesla could become a trillion-dollar company when its valuation was in the $30-50B range. I remember some people were outraged by my report, and Tesla remained one of the most shorted companies for years. Also, many analysts were skeptical of Tesla in the last few years, missing out on much of the spectacular gains over the previous decade. Therefore, while we&#39;re seeing some analysts pulling the plug on Tesla, the downgrade cycle is transitory, and Tesla&#39;s share price should continue rising long-term.</p><h3>Tesla - &#34;The Biggest AI Play Around&#34;</h3><p>ARK Invest&#39;s Cathie Wood called Tesla the &#34;biggest AI play around.&#34; The fund manager cited Tesla&#39;s immense potential in the driverless taxi arena, adding that the auto giant could see a massive run-up in its stock price to around $2,000 in the coming years. Wood also predicted that autonomous driving platforms will deliver<em> $10 trillion</em> in revenues from almost zero by 2038 globally. Tesla has an extensive AI and robotics program, including projects like the Tesla Bot, FSD chips, Dojo chips, and much more. Therefore, it&#39;s challenging to value Tesla like a traditional automaker, provided the company has enormous potential in the driverless taxi business, robotics, and AI.</p><h3>Tesla&#39;s Abnormal Profitability</h3><p>Tesla remains abnormally profitable for an auto company, with tremendous sales growth and profitability growth potential as we advance. Tesla generated a gross profit margin of about 23% in its latest quarter, a decline from the 27% gross profit margin the company saw last year. While the deterioration appears substantial, we should recognize that the lower profit margins occurred because of the temporary economic slowdown and Tesla&#39;s price-cutting measures to acquire market share from its competitors.</p><p>In its recent round of price cuts, Tesla brought the price of its mainstream Model 3 vehicle below $40,000 in the U.S. Americans can now save $2K on a standard Model 3 vehicle or receive $3K in savings when purchasing a Model Y. It is pretty simple for Tesla to make the significant price cuts as it remains highly profitable in any case. Conversely, it is far more difficult for newer EV companies to compete with Tesla. Companies like Lucid (LCID), Rivian (RIVN), NIO (NIO), and others are finding out just how complex the car game is. In addition to mass production, newer EV startups recognize the difficulty of dealing with a slower-than-expected economy and the challenges of competing with Tesla in the ultra-competitive EV race.</p><p><strong>Tesla - Profitability Metrics</strong></p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/59678f2efafd155aa96c1bc59578814d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"470\"/></p><p>Tesla profitability (macrotrends.net)</p><p></p><p>We&#39;ve seen a steady rise in Tesla&#39;s profitability metrics in recent years. As Tesla optimized the production of the Model 3 and other vehicles, its gross profit margin nearly doubled from a low of around 14% to a high of about 27% in early 2022. The recent decline in gross margin is likely due to transitory/challenging market conditions and competitive price cuts (not a Tesla-specific problem). Despite the transitory drop in Tesla&#39;s profitability, its gross margin should recover and return to its exceptionally high level of close to 30%. Moreover, let&#39;s discuss how profitable Tesla is compared with other automakers.</p><h3>Recent Gross Profit Margins</h3><ul><li><p>General Motors (GM): 13%</p></li><li><p>Ford (F): 15%</p></li><li><p>Toyota (TM): 17%</p></li><li><p>Volkswagen (OTCPK:VLKAF): 19%</p></li><li><p>Honda (HMC): 20%.</p></li></ul><p>We see &#34;normal&#34; gross profit margins of 10-20% for many auto stocks. However, we only see sustainable 20-30% gross margins from Tesla. Moreover, companies such as Lucid, Rivian, and other EV start-ups have yet to demonstrate the ability to mass-produce vehicles, never mind producing sustainable profits. Also, as Tesla continues expanding into robotics, chips, and AI, the company should provide substantial sales growth, becoming more profitable in the coming years.</p><h4>Tesla&#39;s Explosive Revenue-Generating Potential</h4><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/84679eef8745747aa4a64ead0aa9fbca\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"345\"/></p><p>Sales growth (SeekingAlpha.com )</p><p></p><p>Tesla should deliver approximately <em>$100B</em> in revenues this year. Moreover, consensus analysts&#39; figures imply Tesla should provide about <em>$130B</em> in revenues next year, roughly 30% YoY sales growth. Additionally, Tesla still has a long growth runway and should provide substantial 15-30% revenue growth in the coming years. Furthermore, current revenue and EPS growth projections may be lowballed, and Tesla could surpass the depressed forecasts as we advance.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ab4eb3cc6081b66957ad6c628d1cd9e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"197\"/></p><p>EPS Estimates (SeekingAlpha.com )</p><p></p><p>Consensus forecasts predict an EPS decline of about 15% this year. Next year&#39;s consensus figure is only $5.05, while the range around $3.70-8.30 is extensive. This dynamic implies that there is little consensus on what Tesla will earn in the coming years, and some analysts could be very wrong regarding their estimates. I expect Tesla to make closer to $4 in EPS this year and about $6-7 in 2024. Moreover, Tesla could earn around $8-10 in EPS in 2025. Therefore, while forward P/E ratios may appear elevated now, Tesla&#39;s valuation may be lower than it seems due to Tesla&#39;s remarkable earning ability.</p><p>If Tesla provides EPS of $6-7 next year, its stock is now trading at a forward P/E ratio of 34-40. Moreover, if Tesla declines to about $200, we may be looking at a stock trading at a forward P/E ratio below 30, making Tesla shares appear inexpensive again. Furthermore, if we consider 2025&#39;s earnings power, $8-10 in EPS implies the stock is now trading at about 24-30 2025&#39;s EPS. Likewise, if Tesla declined to the $200 buy-in level, its stock may sell at approximately 20-28 times 2025&#39;s EPS.</p><p><strong>Where Tesla&#39;s stock could be in future years:</strong></p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>The year</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2023</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2024</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2025</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2026</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2027</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2028</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2029</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2030</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Revenue Bs</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$105</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$155</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$215</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$275</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$350</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$438</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$538</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$657</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Revenue growth</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>29%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>48%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>39%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>27%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>25%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>23%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>22%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>EPS</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$4</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$10</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$14</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$19</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$25</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$31</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>EPS growth</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>25%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>80%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>44%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>40%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>36%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>32%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>25%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>22%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Forward P/E</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>34</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>35</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>34</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>33</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>32</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>30</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>27</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Stock price</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$240</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$350</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$480</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$627</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$800</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$930</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$1,065</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$1,200</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Click to enlarge</p><p><em>Source: The Financial Prophet.</em></p><h2>Tesla Risks</h2><p>A slowdown in demand, increased competition, supply issues, decreased growth, issues with regulators and foreign governments, and other variables are all risks we should consider before betting on Tesla to move higher. Serious concerns could cause Tesla&#39;s valuation to lose altitude, compress its multiple, and the company&#39;s share price could even head in reverse if any serious issues should arise. Therefore, one should consider these and other risks carefully before committing any capital to a Tesla investment.</p><p>Editor&#39;s Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has had quite a run-up since I discussed the bottom in the EV giant's share price in the $100-120 range. 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(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has had quite a run-up since I discussed the bottom in the EV giant's share price in the $100-120 range. We've seen Tesla's share price nearly triple, appreciating by approximately 180% since the stock price crashed to a bottom early this year. We've recently seen a 15% correction in Tesla's share price as Goldman Sachs (GS) and other investment houses came out with \"downgrades\" after the six-month run-up in Tesla's stock.Despite being overbought in the near term, Tesla's stock offers significant intermediate and long-term potential. While Tesla remains well-disguised as just an automaker, the EV leader offers enormous potential in energy generation and storage, robotics, AI, and more. Furthermore, Tesla should continue growing sales rapidly, and the company should continue optimizing operations and increasing profitability substantially as it moves forward. Due to its high level of profitability, significant profitability potential, and enormous growth prospects, Tesla deserves its premium valuation, and the company's stock price should appreciate considerably in the coming years.Technically - Buying The DipTSLA (StockCharts.com)Tesla recently became very overbought on a short-term basis. The stock came up too far too fast, the RSI hit 90, and other technical indicators became highly overextended. The stock price nearly tripled in about a six-month time frame. The AI hype pushed Tesla's share price to an extreme. Therefore, we're happy to see a welcomed/healthy pullback in Tesla shares. Moreover, the 50-day MA just moved above the 200-day MA, implying that Tesla's long-term technical image is strengthening. Thus, while we may see more transitory downside, anything in the $240-200 zone is a buying opportunity for Tesla's stock.When Were Investment Houses Positive On Tesla?Goldman Sachs changed its buy rating to neutral regarding Tesla's shares. The investment bank also put out a $248 price target for the company's stock. Several days ago, Morgan Stanley's (MS) Adam Jonas downgraded Tesla from a buy to a hold while raising his price target to $250 from $200. Barclay's Levy came out with a similar report, downgrading Tesla from buy to hold while growing the price target from $220 to $260. However, when were investment houses ever forward-looking or right about Tesla?I've been reporting on Tesla for about six years now. I proposed that Tesla could become a trillion-dollar company when its valuation was in the $30-50B range. I remember some people were outraged by my report, and Tesla remained one of the most shorted companies for years. Also, many analysts were skeptical of Tesla in the last few years, missing out on much of the spectacular gains over the previous decade. Therefore, while we're seeing some analysts pulling the plug on Tesla, the downgrade cycle is transitory, and Tesla's share price should continue rising long-term.Tesla - \"The Biggest AI Play Around\"ARK Invest's Cathie Wood called Tesla the \"biggest AI play around.\" The fund manager cited Tesla's immense potential in the driverless taxi arena, adding that the auto giant could see a massive run-up in its stock price to around $2,000 in the coming years. Wood also predicted that autonomous driving platforms will deliver $10 trillion in revenues from almost zero by 2038 globally. Tesla has an extensive AI and robotics program, including projects like the Tesla Bot, FSD chips, Dojo chips, and much more. Therefore, it's challenging to value Tesla like a traditional automaker, provided the company has enormous potential in the driverless taxi business, robotics, and AI.Tesla's Abnormal ProfitabilityTesla remains abnormally profitable for an auto company, with tremendous sales growth and profitability growth potential as we advance. Tesla generated a gross profit margin of about 23% in its latest quarter, a decline from the 27% gross profit margin the company saw last year. While the deterioration appears substantial, we should recognize that the lower profit margins occurred because of the temporary economic slowdown and Tesla's price-cutting measures to acquire market share from its competitors.In its recent round of price cuts, Tesla brought the price of its mainstream Model 3 vehicle below $40,000 in the U.S. Americans can now save $2K on a standard Model 3 vehicle or receive $3K in savings when purchasing a Model Y. It is pretty simple for Tesla to make the significant price cuts as it remains highly profitable in any case. Conversely, it is far more difficult for newer EV companies to compete with Tesla. Companies like Lucid (LCID), Rivian (RIVN), NIO (NIO), and others are finding out just how complex the car game is. In addition to mass production, newer EV startups recognize the difficulty of dealing with a slower-than-expected economy and the challenges of competing with Tesla in the ultra-competitive EV race.Tesla - Profitability MetricsTesla profitability (macrotrends.net)We've seen a steady rise in Tesla's profitability metrics in recent years. As Tesla optimized the production of the Model 3 and other vehicles, its gross profit margin nearly doubled from a low of around 14% to a high of about 27% in early 2022. The recent decline in gross margin is likely due to transitory/challenging market conditions and competitive price cuts (not a Tesla-specific problem). Despite the transitory drop in Tesla's profitability, its gross margin should recover and return to its exceptionally high level of close to 30%. Moreover, let's discuss how profitable Tesla is compared with other automakers.Recent Gross Profit MarginsGeneral Motors (GM): 13%Ford (F): 15%Toyota (TM): 17%Volkswagen (OTCPK:VLKAF): 19%Honda (HMC): 20%.We see \"normal\" gross profit margins of 10-20% for many auto stocks. However, we only see sustainable 20-30% gross margins from Tesla. Moreover, companies such as Lucid, Rivian, and other EV start-ups have yet to demonstrate the ability to mass-produce vehicles, never mind producing sustainable profits. Also, as Tesla continues expanding into robotics, chips, and AI, the company should provide substantial sales growth, becoming more profitable in the coming years.Tesla's Explosive Revenue-Generating PotentialSales growth (SeekingAlpha.com )Tesla should deliver approximately $100B in revenues this year. Moreover, consensus analysts' figures imply Tesla should provide about $130B in revenues next year, roughly 30% YoY sales growth. Additionally, Tesla still has a long growth runway and should provide substantial 15-30% revenue growth in the coming years. Furthermore, current revenue and EPS growth projections may be lowballed, and Tesla could surpass the depressed forecasts as we advance.EPS Estimates (SeekingAlpha.com )Consensus forecasts predict an EPS decline of about 15% this year. Next year's consensus figure is only $5.05, while the range around $3.70-8.30 is extensive. This dynamic implies that there is little consensus on what Tesla will earn in the coming years, and some analysts could be very wrong regarding their estimates. I expect Tesla to make closer to $4 in EPS this year and about $6-7 in 2024. Moreover, Tesla could earn around $8-10 in EPS in 2025. Therefore, while forward P/E ratios may appear elevated now, Tesla's valuation may be lower than it seems due to Tesla's remarkable earning ability.If Tesla provides EPS of $6-7 next year, its stock is now trading at a forward P/E ratio of 34-40. Moreover, if Tesla declines to about $200, we may be looking at a stock trading at a forward P/E ratio below 30, making Tesla shares appear inexpensive again. Furthermore, if we consider 2025's earnings power, $8-10 in EPS implies the stock is now trading at about 24-30 2025's EPS. Likewise, if Tesla declined to the $200 buy-in level, its stock may sell at approximately 20-28 times 2025's EPS.Where Tesla's stock could be in future years:The year20232024202520262027202820292030Revenue Bs$105$155$215$275$350$438$538$657Revenue growth29%48%39%28%27%25%23%22%EPS$4$7$10$14$19$25$31$38EPS growth25%80%44%40%36%32%25%22%Forward P/E3435343332302827Stock price$240$350$480$627$800$930$1,065$1,200Click to enlargeSource: The Financial Prophet.Tesla RisksA slowdown in demand, increased competition, supply issues, decreased growth, issues with regulators and foreign governments, and other variables are all risks we should consider before betting on Tesla to move higher. Serious concerns could cause Tesla's valuation to lose altitude, compress its multiple, and the company's share price could even head in reverse if any serious issues should arise. Therefore, one should consider these and other risks carefully before committing any capital to a Tesla investment.Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted loss from operations (non-GAAP) was RMB4,522.4 million (US$658.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.6% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 24.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Net loss</strong> was RMB4,739.5 million (US$690.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 165.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) was RMB 4,150.1 million (US$604.3 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 216.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders</strong> was RMB4,803.6 million (US$699.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.2% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 17.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses and accretion on redeemable non-controlling interests to redemption value, adjusted net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders (non-GAAP) was RMB4,141.8 million (US$603.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 222.3% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.0% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Basic and diluted net loss per ordinary share/American Depositary Share (ADS)iii</strong> were both RMB2.91 (US$0.42) in the first quarter of 2023, compared with RMB1.12 in the first quarter of 2022 and RMB3.55 in the fourth quarter of 2022. 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Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted loss from operations (non-GAAP) was RMB4,522.4 million (US$658.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.6% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 24.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022.Net loss was RMB4,739.5 million (US$690.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 165.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) was RMB 4,150.1 million (US$604.3 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 216.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022.Net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders was RMB4,803.6 million (US$699.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.2% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 17.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses and accretion on redeemable non-controlling interests to redemption value, adjusted net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders (non-GAAP) was RMB4,141.8 million (US$603.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 222.3% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.0% from the fourth quarter of 2022.Basic and diluted net loss per ordinary share/American Depositary Share (ADS)iii were both RMB2.91 (US$0.42) in the first quarter of 2023, compared with RMB1.12 in the first quarter of 2022 and RMB3.55 in the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses and accretion on redeemable non-controlling interests to redemption value, adjusted basic and diluted net loss per share/ADS (non-GAAP) were both RMB2.51 (US$0.36), compared with RMB0.79 in the first quarter of 2022 and RMB3.07 in the fourth quarter of 2022.Cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash, short-term investment and long-term time deposits were RMB37.8 billion (US$5.5 billion) as of March 31, 2023.Stocks fell over 4% in premarket trading.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":126,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184758506066000,"gmtCreate":1686146332973,"gmtModify":1686146336719,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a>it's going a lil out of hand yeah?","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a>it's going a lil out of hand yeah?","text":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ it's going a lil out of hand yeah?","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/359212903b83c3173c768ddab6804096","width":"696","height":"1082"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/184758506066000","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":256,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9979008731,"gmtCreate":1685088517724,"gmtModify":1685088522178,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"All the bears. Seeking Alpha! Where you at ??&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;","listText":"All the bears. Seeking Alpha! Where you at ??&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;","text":"All the bears. Seeking Alpha! Where you at ?? [LOL] [LOL]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9979008731","repostId":"1190064044","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1190064044","pubTimestamp":1685084925,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1190064044?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-26 15:08","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Nvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1190064044","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earningsThe gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losse","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><p>Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earnings</p></li><li><p>The gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losses to $8.1 billion</p></li></ul><p>Traders betting against Nvidia Corp. suffered massive losses as the chipmaker’s stock surged to a record high after it forecasts sales that far surpassed the average analyst estimate. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Short sellers are facing $2.3 billion in paper losses on Thursday alone amid the tech giant’s 27% intraday jump, data from S3 Partners LLC show. That’s pushed mark-to-market losses for the contrarian traders to $8.1 billion in 2023 as Nvidia’s price has more than doubled this year.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2d91cc61f132f208717fd09413fd9307\" tg-width=\"661\" tg-height=\"446\"/></p><p>To be sure, many short sellers have dumped their positions in the chipmaker amid its record rally. In the last 30 days, the number of shares shorted decreased nearly 11%, signaling that traders are covering their positions at a loss. So far this year, total shares shorted are down roughly 23%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Still, Nvidia’s notional short interest value — the amount of money short sellers have bet on the stock’s decline — is more than $9 billion. That makes Nvidia the fourth most-shorted stock in the US, behind only <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">Apple Inc.</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Inc.</a> and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft Corp</a>. </p><p>Nvidia has been one of the biggest beneficiaries from the growing craze surrounding artificial intelligence, and there could be more pain ahead for short sellers if Nvidia’s winning streak continues as many on Wall Street believe it will. The stock currently has 47 buy ratings, 10 holds and no sells with an average price target of $429, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Our expectations for NVDA’s future revenues are lifting substantially,” Wedbush analyst Matt Bryson wrote in a note upgrading Nvidia to outperform from neutral. He pushed his price target to $490, implying an additional roughly 29% in upside for shares from Wednesday’s close.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-05-26 15:08 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-25/nvidia-short-sellers-lose-2-3-billion-in-one-day-as-stock-soars><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earningsThe gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losses to $8.1 billionTraders betting against Nvidia Corp. suffered massive losses as the chipmaker’s ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-25/nvidia-short-sellers-lose-2-3-billion-in-one-day-as-stock-soars\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NVDA":"英伟达"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-25/nvidia-short-sellers-lose-2-3-billion-in-one-day-as-stock-soars","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1190064044","content_text":"Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earningsThe gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losses to $8.1 billionTraders betting against Nvidia Corp. suffered massive losses as the chipmaker’s stock surged to a record high after it forecasts sales that far surpassed the average analyst estimate. Short sellers are facing $2.3 billion in paper losses on Thursday alone amid the tech giant’s 27% intraday jump, data from S3 Partners LLC show. That’s pushed mark-to-market losses for the contrarian traders to $8.1 billion in 2023 as Nvidia’s price has more than doubled this year.To be sure, many short sellers have dumped their positions in the chipmaker amid its record rally. In the last 30 days, the number of shares shorted decreased nearly 11%, signaling that traders are covering their positions at a loss. So far this year, total shares shorted are down roughly 23%.Still, Nvidia’s notional short interest value — the amount of money short sellers have bet on the stock’s decline — is more than $9 billion. That makes Nvidia the fourth most-shorted stock in the US, behind only Apple Inc., Tesla Inc. and Microsoft Corp. Nvidia has been one of the biggest beneficiaries from the growing craze surrounding artificial intelligence, and there could be more pain ahead for short sellers if Nvidia’s winning streak continues as many on Wall Street believe it will. The stock currently has 47 buy ratings, 10 holds and no sells with an average price target of $429, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. “Our expectations for NVDA’s future revenues are lifting substantially,” Wedbush analyst Matt Bryson wrote in a note upgrading Nvidia to outperform from neutral. He pushed his price target to $490, implying an additional roughly 29% in upside for shares from Wednesday’s close.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":162,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9970788466,"gmtCreate":1684977837355,"gmtModify":1684977840846,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>Had great value long before the AI boom","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>Had great value long before the AI boom","text":"$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ Had great value long before the AI boom","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/18c8c7939116243e38aadcd1fca73b7d","width":"696","height":"1082"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970788466","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":193,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9970414863,"gmtCreate":1684815446952,"gmtModify":1684815450564,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I know just by the title and that it's a seeking alpha write up.&nbsp;","listText":"I know just by the title and that it's a seeking alpha write up.&nbsp;","text":"I know just by the title and that it's a seeking alpha write up.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970414863","repostId":"2337622107","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2337622107","pubTimestamp":1684798085,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2337622107?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-23 07:28","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Sell Signals Confirmed (Technical Analysis, Downgrade)","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2337622107","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"As the electric vehicle (\"EV\") battle heats up and the pawns take on the king, in this case the auto","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7e6eef20058b6f3e1b90fc3390b88ea4\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>As the electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;) battle heats up and the pawns take on the king, in this case the auto industry taking on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA), we can expect TSLA&#39;s growth and profitability to suffer. That means that TSLA&#39;s P/E and PEG likely will come down. The way that is accomplished is by a falling price for TSLA stock. That is exactly what is happening, as you can see on the chart below.</p><p>Tesla is in a bear market looking for a bottom, not unlike the overall market, as represented by SPDR® S&amp;P 500 ETF Trust (SPY). The overvaluation of the mega-cap stocks that move the SPY higher continues. When the recession comes, these overvalued stocks should drop to the levels of last October, if not lower, especially TSLA with a Beta of 2. You can see the SPY breakout on the chart below, and we think this is the last hurrah for the October bounce. When the SPY turns down, it should take TSLA with it.</p><p>Everyone knows the growth cycle. The new company is growing like crazy and then the competition comes alive. The growth begins to slow, especially as the company becomes larger and larger. Finally it morphs from growth to value, a blue chip paying dividends. TSLA has moved from being aggressive growth to slower growth, but with a long runway still ahead of it. The only problem with that picture is that it is overvalued and price has to come down. Then there was the dumping of stock on the market so Elon could buy Twitter. Increased supply brings price down. Plus, institutional ownership of TSLA stock is a very low 44%.</p><p>All of this is well known by the market and can be seen in price trends. The short, intermediate, and long-term price trends are down and price is continuing a downward movement. You can see this on the chart below. The 200-day moving average, long-term trend is down. So is the intermediate 50-day trend and the short term 20-day trend moving average. TSLA is underperforming the market, and portfolio managers are dumping it because it is hurting their performance. You cannot beat the Index by holding underperforming stocks. However, bottom fishers do buy underperforming stocks like TSLA if the price is low enough.</p><p>Now, if TSLA could beat all the competition and maintain its aggressive growth in the future, that would change the downtrends. If its earnings revisions improved dramatically, that would change the downtrends. However, the market right now does not see that happening for TSLA and that is why price continues to drop. Great company, great profits, ahead of the competition, but how long will that last in such a competitive industry? TSLA is going to lose market share and the market is trying to compute how fast that is going to happen and how to value TSLA stock accordingly. Right now it thinks the price is too high. The charts show price dropping for that reason.</p><p>In our previous article, we showed the downtrends and the sell signal after earnings. When price gapped down after earnings, the bargain hunters came in and took the price back up, filling the gap down. This is classical technical movement of price. TSLA is in a downtrend, but it is not going to dive to the bottom. It is moving down in a very orderly manner to the next support level and then bouncing as the bargain hunters come in again. Then it goes down lower than before, forming the classical lower-high and lower-low in price until it finally hits bottom.</p><p>You can see the last bottom was $102 and you can see price moving in a slow, and orderly manner, back down to retest that price. As noted above, any improvement in growth, earnings revisions and profit margins would change the outcome. We don&#39;t think that happens. We see the growing competition taking market share from TSLA. The competition has shown that they are willing to lose money to catch up with TSLA.</p><p>Technically, we look for bounces in prices to change our Sell Signals. In the case of TSLA, we can see that the current bounce has not changed our Sell Signal, which uses both technicals and fundamentals. When this happens on a bounce, that becomes a confirmation of the Sell Signal and we expect the stock to move lower. That is what you can see on this weekly chart below:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e4ff653f9f3ba4cd18dd5631fbee0fd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"884\"/></p><p>TSLA bounce fails to change sell signals. (stockcharts.com)</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the market has recently helped the TSLA stock price, along with the Musk interview. As you can see on the SPY chart below, there is a positive breakout above $420. This was caused by positive, no-default talk, but on Friday negotiations broke down and the SPY dropped below $420 looking for support at $415. On Sunday, Biden was on TV about negotiations and in touch with McCarthy.</p><p>Here is the daily SPY chart, and it still is holding on to our vertical, blue line buy signal. That could change with further bad news on the debt ceiling negotiations.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d52f9df72b2ae7c46d56ee78d1efbb69\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"784\"/></p><p>SPY drops on debt ceiling news (stockcharts.com)</p><p></p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Sell Signals Confirmed (Technical Analysis, Downgrade)</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Sell Signals Confirmed (Technical Analysis, Downgrade)\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-05-23 07:28 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606449-tesla-sell-signals-confirmed-technical-analysis-downgrade><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>As the electric vehicle (\"EV\") battle heats up and the pawns take on the king, in this case the auto industry taking on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA), we can expect TSLA's growth and profitability to ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606449-tesla-sell-signals-confirmed-technical-analysis-downgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","OEF":"标普100指数ETF-iShares","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","TSLA":"特斯拉","IVV":"标普500指数ETF","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","SDS":"两倍做空标普500ETF","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","UPRO":"三倍做多标普500ETF","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","SSO":"两倍做多标普500ETF","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4588":"碎股","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","SPXU":"三倍做空标普500ETF","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","OEX":"标普100","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4574":"无人驾驶",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606449-tesla-sell-signals-confirmed-technical-analysis-downgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2337622107","content_text":"As the electric vehicle (\"EV\") battle heats up and the pawns take on the king, in this case the auto industry taking on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA), we can expect TSLA's growth and profitability to suffer. That means that TSLA's P/E and PEG likely will come down. The way that is accomplished is by a falling price for TSLA stock. That is exactly what is happening, as you can see on the chart below.Tesla is in a bear market looking for a bottom, not unlike the overall market, as represented by SPDR® S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY). The overvaluation of the mega-cap stocks that move the SPY higher continues. When the recession comes, these overvalued stocks should drop to the levels of last October, if not lower, especially TSLA with a Beta of 2. You can see the SPY breakout on the chart below, and we think this is the last hurrah for the October bounce. When the SPY turns down, it should take TSLA with it.Everyone knows the growth cycle. The new company is growing like crazy and then the competition comes alive. The growth begins to slow, especially as the company becomes larger and larger. Finally it morphs from growth to value, a blue chip paying dividends. TSLA has moved from being aggressive growth to slower growth, but with a long runway still ahead of it. The only problem with that picture is that it is overvalued and price has to come down. Then there was the dumping of stock on the market so Elon could buy Twitter. Increased supply brings price down. Plus, institutional ownership of TSLA stock is a very low 44%.All of this is well known by the market and can be seen in price trends. The short, intermediate, and long-term price trends are down and price is continuing a downward movement. You can see this on the chart below. The 200-day moving average, long-term trend is down. So is the intermediate 50-day trend and the short term 20-day trend moving average. TSLA is underperforming the market, and portfolio managers are dumping it because it is hurting their performance. You cannot beat the Index by holding underperforming stocks. However, bottom fishers do buy underperforming stocks like TSLA if the price is low enough.Now, if TSLA could beat all the competition and maintain its aggressive growth in the future, that would change the downtrends. If its earnings revisions improved dramatically, that would change the downtrends. However, the market right now does not see that happening for TSLA and that is why price continues to drop. Great company, great profits, ahead of the competition, but how long will that last in such a competitive industry? TSLA is going to lose market share and the market is trying to compute how fast that is going to happen and how to value TSLA stock accordingly. Right now it thinks the price is too high. The charts show price dropping for that reason.In our previous article, we showed the downtrends and the sell signal after earnings. When price gapped down after earnings, the bargain hunters came in and took the price back up, filling the gap down. This is classical technical movement of price. TSLA is in a downtrend, but it is not going to dive to the bottom. It is moving down in a very orderly manner to the next support level and then bouncing as the bargain hunters come in again. Then it goes down lower than before, forming the classical lower-high and lower-low in price until it finally hits bottom.You can see the last bottom was $102 and you can see price moving in a slow, and orderly manner, back down to retest that price. As noted above, any improvement in growth, earnings revisions and profit margins would change the outcome. We don't think that happens. We see the growing competition taking market share from TSLA. The competition has shown that they are willing to lose money to catch up with TSLA.Technically, we look for bounces in prices to change our Sell Signals. In the case of TSLA, we can see that the current bounce has not changed our Sell Signal, which uses both technicals and fundamentals. When this happens on a bounce, that becomes a confirmation of the Sell Signal and we expect the stock to move lower. That is what you can see on this weekly chart below:TSLA bounce fails to change sell signals. (stockcharts.com)Meanwhile the market has recently helped the TSLA stock price, along with the Musk interview. As you can see on the SPY chart below, there is a positive breakout above $420. This was caused by positive, no-default talk, but on Friday negotiations broke down and the SPY dropped below $420 looking for support at $415. On Sunday, Biden was on TV about negotiations and in touch with McCarthy.Here is the daily SPY chart, and it still is holding on to our vertical, blue line buy signal. 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Take care.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":14,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970397357","repostId":"1199366607","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1199366607","pubTimestamp":1683894458,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1199366607?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-12 20:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1199366607","media":"Techstory","summary":"In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with div","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aa7193bb27f6978e976de34598d2f8bc\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"512\"/></p><p>In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, BabyAGI, and other open-source and proprietary AIs are some of the examples available in the market.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The AI systems mentioned have exhibited remarkable intelligence and capabilities that were once considered exclusive to human cognition. The usage of large language models in stock market analysis and forecast has been in discussions since the beginning of this AI trend.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A finance professor at the University of Florida, Alejandro Lopez-Lira, conducted a recent study revealing that large language models, such as ChatGPT, can be highly valuable in predicting stock prices. In fact, ChatGPT achieved a remarkable 500% return in one investing model, surpassing conventional sentiment analysis models that are commonly utilized by hedge funds.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Lopez-Lira utilized ChatGPT to analyze news headlines to determine whether they were favorable or unfavorable for a stock. The study discovered that ChatGPT’s forecasting ability to predict the direction of the next day’s returns was considerably better than random chance.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/04e8bb1da54048e266875913c4d3f190\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"800\" tg-height=\"533\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The experiment conducted by Alejandro Lopez-Lira highlights the potential of state-of-the-art artificial intelligence. The findings suggest that larger computational resources and improved datasets, such as those used to develop ChatGPT, can give rise to “emergent abilities” or capabilities that were not originally intended during the AI model’s development.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This implies that the potential applications of these AI models could be much broader and more diverse than previously imagined, with possible implications for industries beyond finance.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Lopez-Lira stated that ChatGPT’s ability to comprehend information intended for humans makes it highly likely that there will be return predictability, even if the market does not react in an ideal manner.</p><h3 style=\"text-align: start;\">METHOD OF STUDY AND FINDINGS</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers used a customized prompt to ask ChatGPT to assume the role of a financial expert with experience in stock recommendations and evaluate the impact of a given news headline on a company’s stock price in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">ChatGPT was asked to answer “YES” if the news is good for the stock price, “NO” if it is bad, or “UNKNOWN” if it is uncertain. The researchers then transformed ChatGPT’s recommendation into a score and run linear regressions of the next day’s returns on the ChatGPT score to test its predictive power.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The prompt was specifically designed for financial analysis and asked ChatGPT to evaluate a given news headline and its potential impact on a company’s stock price in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers assumed that the headline contains sufficient information for an expert in the financial industry to assess its impact on the stock price reasonably. ChatGPT was then asked to explain its answer concisely in one sentence. The authors set a temperature of 0 to maximize the reproducibility of the results.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The study shows that ChatGPT can provide recommendations for news headlines that are predictive of the next day’s stock returns. The ChatGPT score has a statistically significant relationship with the next day’s returns, indicating that the model can generate emergent abilities for financial analysis tasks.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers compared ChatGPT’s results to the sentiment score provided by a news curating company and found out that ChatGPT’s score is more predictive of the next day’s returns.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/192320358bbcbaf611cfb1188e72eccb\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"2320\" tg-height=\"1346\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The study’s conclusion asserts that ChatGPT exhibits superior performance compared to traditional sentiment analysis techniques provided by a prominent vendor.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The research findings highlight the potential of large language models in financial economics and contribute to the expanding collection of literature on the applications of artificial intelligence and natural language processing in this field.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In an interview with CNBC, Lopez-Lira stated that hedge funds had contacted him to gain further insights into his research. He also expressed his belief that ChatGPT’s capacity to anticipate stock price fluctuations might diminish in the future as more institutions begin to incorporate this technology.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1638775714613","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-05-12 20:27 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/><strong>Techstory</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GOOG":"谷歌","MSFT":"微软"},"source_url":"https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1199366607","content_text":"In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, BabyAGI, and other open-source and proprietary AIs are some of the examples available in the market.The AI systems mentioned have exhibited remarkable intelligence and capabilities that were once considered exclusive to human cognition. The usage of large language models in stock market analysis and forecast has been in discussions since the beginning of this AI trend.A finance professor at the University of Florida, Alejandro Lopez-Lira, conducted a recent study revealing that large language models, such as ChatGPT, can be highly valuable in predicting stock prices. In fact, ChatGPT achieved a remarkable 500% return in one investing model, surpassing conventional sentiment analysis models that are commonly utilized by hedge funds.Lopez-Lira utilized ChatGPT to analyze news headlines to determine whether they were favorable or unfavorable for a stock. The study discovered that ChatGPT’s forecasting ability to predict the direction of the next day’s returns was considerably better than random chance.The experiment conducted by Alejandro Lopez-Lira highlights the potential of state-of-the-art artificial intelligence. The findings suggest that larger computational resources and improved datasets, such as those used to develop ChatGPT, can give rise to “emergent abilities” or capabilities that were not originally intended during the AI model’s development.This implies that the potential applications of these AI models could be much broader and more diverse than previously imagined, with possible implications for industries beyond finance.Lopez-Lira stated that ChatGPT’s ability to comprehend information intended for humans makes it highly likely that there will be return predictability, even if the market does not react in an ideal manner.METHOD OF STUDY AND FINDINGSThe researchers used a customized prompt to ask ChatGPT to assume the role of a financial expert with experience in stock recommendations and evaluate the impact of a given news headline on a company’s stock price in the short term.ChatGPT was asked to answer “YES” if the news is good for the stock price, “NO” if it is bad, or “UNKNOWN” if it is uncertain. The researchers then transformed ChatGPT’s recommendation into a score and run linear regressions of the next day’s returns on the ChatGPT score to test its predictive power.The prompt was specifically designed for financial analysis and asked ChatGPT to evaluate a given news headline and its potential impact on a company’s stock price in the short term.The researchers assumed that the headline contains sufficient information for an expert in the financial industry to assess its impact on the stock price reasonably. ChatGPT was then asked to explain its answer concisely in one sentence. The authors set a temperature of 0 to maximize the reproducibility of the results.The study shows that ChatGPT can provide recommendations for news headlines that are predictive of the next day’s stock returns. The ChatGPT score has a statistically significant relationship with the next day’s returns, indicating that the model can generate emergent abilities for financial analysis tasks.The researchers compared ChatGPT’s results to the sentiment score provided by a news curating company and found out that ChatGPT’s score is more predictive of the next day’s returns.The study’s conclusion asserts that ChatGPT exhibits superior performance compared to traditional sentiment analysis techniques provided by a prominent vendor.The research findings highlight the potential of large language models in financial economics and contribute to the expanding collection of literature on the applications of artificial intelligence and natural language processing in this field.In an interview with CNBC, Lopez-Lira stated that hedge funds had contacted him to gain further insights into his research. He also expressed his belief that ChatGPT’s capacity to anticipate stock price fluctuations might diminish in the future as more institutions begin to incorporate this technology.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":275,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9944475872,"gmtCreate":1682069574796,"gmtModify":1682069578977,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"As much as I love Tesla. Robotaxi still looks like quite a stretch 🫣","listText":"As much as I love Tesla. Robotaxi still looks like quite a stretch 🫣","text":"As much as I love Tesla. 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Tesla (TSLA) shares fell 10% on Thursday on margin worries following price cuts through this year.</p><p>TSLA is the largest holding in Wood&#39;s flagship ARKK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA:ARKK).</p><p>“We want Tesla to scale its units because each one of them now represents the potential for a robotaxi, or a robotaxi fleet,&#34; Wood said on CNBC.</p><p>“The robotaxi service is going to be, from a margin point of view, more like a SAAS business and so we think that it is very smart to maximize unit because they have so much option value now,” she added.</p><p>“Tesla’s prospective robotaxi business line is a key driver, contributing 58% of expected enterprise value and 45% of expected EBITDA in 2027,” ARK analysts said in their report. “Across our simulation set, electric vehicles account for 62% of revenues in 2027, at substantially lower margins than robotaxi revenue.”</p><p>Not surprisingly, Wood added TSLA shares to ARKK on the dip last night, buying 219,810 shares to bring it to 0.4799% of the portfolio. ARK also added 36,213 shares to the ARK Next Generation Internet fund (ARKW), bringing that to 0.4827% of the portfolio.</p><p>TSLA is down 50% from a year ago, but has gained about 50% year to date. ARKK is down 33% in the past year and up 23% year to date. 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Tesla (TSLA) shares fell 10% on Thursday on margin worries following price cuts through this year.TSLA is the largest holding in Wood's flagship ARKK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA:ARKK).“We want Tesla to scale its units because each one of them now represents the potential for a robotaxi, or a robotaxi fleet,\" Wood said on CNBC.“The robotaxi service is going to be, from a margin point of view, more like a SAAS business and so we think that it is very smart to maximize unit because they have so much option value now,” she added.“Tesla’s prospective robotaxi business line is a key driver, contributing 58% of expected enterprise value and 45% of expected EBITDA in 2027,” ARK analysts said in their report. “Across our simulation set, electric vehicles account for 62% of revenues in 2027, at substantially lower margins than robotaxi revenue.”Not surprisingly, Wood added TSLA shares to ARKK on the dip last night, buying 219,810 shares to bring it to 0.4799% of the portfolio. ARK also added 36,213 shares to the ARK Next Generation Internet fund (ARKW), bringing that to 0.4827% of the portfolio.TSLA is down 50% from a year ago, but has gained about 50% year to date. ARKK is down 33% in the past year and up 23% year to date. ARKW fell 34% in a year and is up 32% in 2023.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":126,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9946703671,"gmtCreate":1681045458894,"gmtModify":1681045462470,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"The best event ! Great chance for more","listText":"The best event ! Great chance for more","text":"The best event ! 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Shares of <b>Tesla</b>, <b>Nio</b>, and <b>Rivian Automotive</b> all suffered their worst calendar year performances ever -- falling by 65%, 69%, and 82%, respectively.</p><p>Even after the sell-off, Tesla has remained an EV market leader for the last few years. And the stock has been rebounding nicely in 2022. But is now the time to stick with a proven winner like Tesla or to take a leap by adding less-proven growth stocks like Nio and Rivian to your portfolio?</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> is already diversified</h2><p><b>Howard Smith (Tesla):</b> It&#39;s important to own a generally diversified portfolio, but one should also pay attention to one&#39;s diversification within sectors. The EV sector is still in an early stage of its evolution, and it&#39;s far from clear which of today&#39;s players will wind up winners and which will be losers. One winner as far as profitability goes is Tesla. However, that doesn&#39;t make it risk-free as an investment by any means. That&#39;s why it makes sense to look at adding various other EV industry names to one&#39;s portfolio.</p><p>While Nio and Rivian could both turn out to be successful, owning Tesla stock already gives one exposure to what they offer investors. Nio does business in China and is expanding to Europe. China-based <b>BYD</b> and, to a lesser extent, Tesla, already dominate China&#39;s EV market. And Tesla&#39;s German plant is ramping up production quickly to help supply Europe. The Berlin factory alone reportedly now produces 4,000 vehicles each week. For perspective, Nio only expects to deliver between 31,000 and 33,000 EVs in the entire first quarter.</p><p>Rivian began its life as a public company in the consumer light truck market -- a different EV niche than Tesla. But Tesla is about to start encroaching on Rivian&#39;s turf -- it expects to begin deliveries of its Cybertruck this year. Industry followers have estimated that there are already about 1.5 million preorders for the Cybertruck, based on a crowdsourced reservation tracker.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s business is already diversified and successful. The risk for investors now is really with the stock&#39;s valuation. After the recent recovery in its share price, its price-to-earnings ratio is up to 50. Though that is historically lower than past valuation levels for Tesla, it is still considered high relative to the rest of the stock market.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2a736247c4f85b27ea5fd034aaa82899\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>TSLA PE Ratio data by YCharts.</p><p>The company continues to grow at an accelerated rate, though. Different stocks bring different risks for investors. But buying Tesla stock is arguably less of a risk than investing in early stage EV makers that have yet to prove themselves as businesses.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a> and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RIVN\">Rivian</a> are worth a look for growth-orientated investors</h2><p><b>Daniel Foelber (Nio/Rivian):</b> 2022 was a disappointing year for Nio and Rivian as both companies suffered their largest-ever annual losses -- with Nio losing $2.2 billion and Rivian losing $6.8 billion.</p><p>Nio is forecasting a sales slowdown in March, and its fourth-quarter loss was higher than expected. Meanwhile, Rivian has $12 billion in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash on its balance sheet -- but management has said that given its high rate of cash burn, it&#39;s &#34;confident&#34; that will be enough to fund its operations through 2025. The company is already looking beyond that, however, and just announced it raised another $1.5 billion in convertible notes. It&#39;s also forecasting an adjusted EBITDA loss of $4.3 billion in 2023.</p><p>Yet Nio and Rivian are starting to emerge as two standout EV makers with serious growth potential. While Nio is tackling different price points, mainly with electric sedans and SUVs, Rivian is staking its claim on the electric pickup truck, SUV, and delivery van markets.</p><p>Both companies are banking on scaling up production to reduce losses and improve margins. And while Nio has far higher production than Rivian, Rivian is also growing faster and is forecasting its production will double in 2023 to 50,000 units.</p><p>Rivian and Nio will need to prove they can become and stay profitable. But until that happens, their price-to-sales (P/S) ratios provide a good reading on how much cheaper they have become.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/50db07e8a6d13de2cbfb149cace7cacb\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"584\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>NIO PS Ratio (Forward) data by YCharts.</p><p>Nio&#39;s forward P/S ratio of 1.3 and Rivian&#39;s ratio of 3.4 aren&#39;t as low as the metrics of legacy automakers like <b>Ford</b> or <b>General Motors</b>. But they are quite a bit lower than Tesla or their fellow EV start-up <b>Lucid Group</b>.</p><p>Moreover, their forward P/S ratios are much lower than they were a year ago, when Nio&#39;s was 4.6 and Rivian&#39;s was 23.</p><p>Tesla is by far the safer and more proven company. But Nio and Rivan have loads of growth potential and increasingly attractive risk-to-potential-reward profiles as their stock prices continue to tumble. It&#39;s a close call, but I&#39;d rather split my money 50/50 between Nio and Rivian shares than invest it in Tesla right now.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RIVN\">Rivian</a> are all worth a look</h2><p>Tesla may be the front-runner in the EV race. But its performance and growth rate will have to keep pace with the stock&#39;s valuation in order for Tesla to be a compelling buy after it started the year off as the hottest stock in the <b>S&amp;P 500</b>.</p><p>Meanwhile, Nio and Rivian&#39;s valuations have come way down, but even their current levels can only be justified by future earnings -- which neither company has proven it can produce. The EV industry remains a highly uncertain investment area, especially when there is heightened potential for the U.S. to enter a recession and/or a period of slowing demand. The decision of which is the better place to put your money -- into Tesla, or splitting it between Nio and Rivian -- will come down to your risk tolerance and time horizon.</p><p>An investor can always avoid early stage uncertainty simply by waiting for an investment thesis to play out further, but that increases one&#39;s risk of having to pay a higher price for a stock down the road. 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Shares of Tesla, Nio, and Rivian Automotive all suffered their worst calendar year performances ever -- falling by 65%, 69%, and ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/13/better-buy-tesla-split-of-nio-and-rivian-ev-stock/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","TSLA":"特斯拉","RIVN":"Rivian Automotive, Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/13/better-buy-tesla-split-of-nio-and-rivian-ev-stock/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2319981700","content_text":"The electric vehicle (EV) industry was not kind to investors in 2022. Shares of Tesla, Nio, and Rivian Automotive all suffered their worst calendar year performances ever -- falling by 65%, 69%, and 82%, respectively.Even after the sell-off, Tesla has remained an EV market leader for the last few years. And the stock has been rebounding nicely in 2022. But is now the time to stick with a proven winner like Tesla or to take a leap by adding less-proven growth stocks like Nio and Rivian to your portfolio?Tesla is already diversifiedHoward Smith (Tesla): It's important to own a generally diversified portfolio, but one should also pay attention to one's diversification within sectors. The EV sector is still in an early stage of its evolution, and it's far from clear which of today's players will wind up winners and which will be losers. One winner as far as profitability goes is Tesla. However, that doesn't make it risk-free as an investment by any means. That's why it makes sense to look at adding various other EV industry names to one's portfolio.While Nio and Rivian could both turn out to be successful, owning Tesla stock already gives one exposure to what they offer investors. Nio does business in China and is expanding to Europe. China-based BYD and, to a lesser extent, Tesla, already dominate China's EV market. And Tesla's German plant is ramping up production quickly to help supply Europe. The Berlin factory alone reportedly now produces 4,000 vehicles each week. For perspective, Nio only expects to deliver between 31,000 and 33,000 EVs in the entire first quarter.Rivian began its life as a public company in the consumer light truck market -- a different EV niche than Tesla. But Tesla is about to start encroaching on Rivian's turf -- it expects to begin deliveries of its Cybertruck this year. Industry followers have estimated that there are already about 1.5 million preorders for the Cybertruck, based on a crowdsourced reservation tracker.Tesla's business is already diversified and successful. The risk for investors now is really with the stock's valuation. After the recent recovery in its share price, its price-to-earnings ratio is up to 50. Though that is historically lower than past valuation levels for Tesla, it is still considered high relative to the rest of the stock market.TSLA PE Ratio data by YCharts.The company continues to grow at an accelerated rate, though. Different stocks bring different risks for investors. But buying Tesla stock is arguably less of a risk than investing in early stage EV makers that have yet to prove themselves as businesses.Nio and Rivian are worth a look for growth-orientated investorsDaniel Foelber (Nio/Rivian): 2022 was a disappointing year for Nio and Rivian as both companies suffered their largest-ever annual losses -- with Nio losing $2.2 billion and Rivian losing $6.8 billion.Nio is forecasting a sales slowdown in March, and its fourth-quarter loss was higher than expected. Meanwhile, Rivian has $12 billion in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash on its balance sheet -- but management has said that given its high rate of cash burn, it's \"confident\" that will be enough to fund its operations through 2025. The company is already looking beyond that, however, and just announced it raised another $1.5 billion in convertible notes. It's also forecasting an adjusted EBITDA loss of $4.3 billion in 2023.Yet Nio and Rivian are starting to emerge as two standout EV makers with serious growth potential. While Nio is tackling different price points, mainly with electric sedans and SUVs, Rivian is staking its claim on the electric pickup truck, SUV, and delivery van markets.Both companies are banking on scaling up production to reduce losses and improve margins. And while Nio has far higher production than Rivian, Rivian is also growing faster and is forecasting its production will double in 2023 to 50,000 units.Rivian and Nio will need to prove they can become and stay profitable. But until that happens, their price-to-sales (P/S) ratios provide a good reading on how much cheaper they have become.NIO PS Ratio (Forward) data by YCharts.Nio's forward P/S ratio of 1.3 and Rivian's ratio of 3.4 aren't as low as the metrics of legacy automakers like Ford or General Motors. But they are quite a bit lower than Tesla or their fellow EV start-up Lucid Group.Moreover, their forward P/S ratios are much lower than they were a year ago, when Nio's was 4.6 and Rivian's was 23.Tesla is by far the safer and more proven company. But Nio and Rivan have loads of growth potential and increasingly attractive risk-to-potential-reward profiles as their stock prices continue to tumble. It's a close call, but I'd rather split my money 50/50 between Nio and Rivian shares than invest it in Tesla right now.Tesla, Nio, and Rivian are all worth a lookTesla may be the front-runner in the EV race. But its performance and growth rate will have to keep pace with the stock's valuation in order for Tesla to be a compelling buy after it started the year off as the hottest stock in the S&P 500.Meanwhile, Nio and Rivian's valuations have come way down, but even their current levels can only be justified by future earnings -- which neither company has proven it can produce. The EV industry remains a highly uncertain investment area, especially when there is heightened potential for the U.S. to enter a recession and/or a period of slowing demand. The decision of which is the better place to put your money -- into Tesla, or splitting it between Nio and Rivian -- will come down to your risk tolerance and time horizon.An investor can always avoid early stage uncertainty simply by waiting for an investment thesis to play out further, but that increases one's risk of having to pay a higher price for a stock down the road. On the other hand, buying a stock when uncertainty is high presents a greater potential for stronger returns, but also more risk.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":98,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9940847653,"gmtCreate":1677835606272,"gmtModify":1677835611586,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Thanks for the discount 🤤","listText":"Thanks for the discount 🤤","text":"Thanks for the discount 🤤","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9940847653","repostId":"1194292971","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1194292971","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1677834905,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1194292971?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-03 17:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Jumps 2% in Premarket Trading","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1194292971","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Elon Musk and Tesla's senior management offered a four-hour presentation this week on the future of ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk and Tesla&#39;s senior management offered a four-hour presentation this week on the future of the electric vehicle maker.</p><p>Musk told shareholders and analysts alike that the session was designed to offer a long-term view, rather than forecasts for the next few quarters. Tesla stock jumps 2% in premarket trading.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a696d63cef3207460c1360841959f099\" tg-width=\"814\" tg-height=\"670\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Tesla Bulls Maintain Position</p><p>Morgan Stanley analyst, Adam Jonas, a Tesla bull, believes that Tesla&#39;s &#34;audacious efforts on vertical integration are about to pay off.&#34;</p><p>Jonas, who maintains a price target of $220 a share, believes that other EV manufacturers will have a tough time competing with Tesla.</p><p>&#34;We leave the investor day at Giga Austin asking which of Tesla&#39;s competitors can keep up with the planned spending of upwards of $170bn for the build-out of their manufacturing base for EVs and stationary storage,&#34; he wrote.</p><p>The March 1 investor day should &#34;increase&#34; investor confidence, wrote Goldman Sachs analyst Mark Delaney.</p><p>&#34;Tesla provided significant insights into how various teams are working to reduce cost, scale, and improve capabilities,&#34; he wrote. &#34;We believe the company was able to show good progress in areas such as casting, 4680 cells (such as with the dry coating of the electrodes), semiconductors/power electronics and software.&#34;</p><p>But Delaney acknowledged that investors sought more substantial news about Tesla&#39;s plans for the short-term such as when a &#34;third generation vehicle could be shipping, and therefore the lack of clarity beyond the comment that they’re working as fast as they can and it could be in the next couple of years is likely to be viewed as a disappointment to some.&#34;</p><p>Tesla has hinted at manufacturing a $25,000 model to attract more drivers into switching to purchasing an EV, but critics dislike the idea.</p><p>Greg Wester, who is a product manager and an owner of a 2018 Tesla Model 3 who does not own any shares of Tesla, tweeted, &#34;Tesla is like BMW or Audi. Nobody wants to see a premium brand sell an $18k car.&#34;</p><p>Wedbush analyst Dan Ives reacted positively to Tesla&#39;s investor day, stating that the company is beating its competitors.</p><p>&#34;For investors its crystal clear just how far ahead Tesla is ahead of the rest of the auto industry when it comes to producing/scaling EVs with last night another display of the pure breadth and scale of Tesla globally,&#34; he tweeted. &#34;This was a showcase event for Musk and the Tesla community.&#34;</p><p>Even though investors had sought more details about future models and sales projections, Ives is confident that Tesla can deliver a cheaper EV.</p><p>&#34;The reality is the Street will and has always walked away from Tesla investor days &#39;wanting more&#39;,&#34; he tweeted. &#34;But in my opinion that’s the Tesla/Musk DNA and seeing the forest through the trees yesterday presented all the ingredients in the recipe for a cheaper vehicle sub $30k likely by 25.&#34;</p><p>Gary Black, a Tesla bull, did not change his price target and maintains his prediction of $370 a share after the presentation.</p><p>&#34;$TSLA is still our top position,&#34; he tweeted. &#34;I didn’t change my $370 PT. 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he wrote.</p><p>The March 1 investor day should &#34;increase&#34; investor confidence, wrote Goldman Sachs analyst Mark Delaney.</p><p>&#34;Tesla provided significant insights into how various teams are working to reduce cost, scale, and improve capabilities,&#34; he wrote. &#34;We believe the company was able to show good progress in areas such as casting, 4680 cells (such as with the dry coating of the electrodes), semiconductors/power electronics and software.&#34;</p><p>But Delaney acknowledged that investors sought more substantial news about Tesla&#39;s plans for the short-term such as when a &#34;third generation vehicle could be shipping, and therefore the lack of clarity beyond the comment that they’re working as fast as they can and it could be in the next couple of years is likely to be viewed as a disappointment to some.&#34;</p><p>Tesla has hinted at manufacturing a $25,000 model to attract more drivers into switching to purchasing an EV, but critics dislike the idea.</p><p>Greg Wester, who is a product manager and an owner of a 2018 Tesla Model 3 who does not own any shares of Tesla, tweeted, &#34;Tesla is like BMW or Audi. Nobody wants to see a premium brand sell an $18k car.&#34;</p><p>Wedbush analyst Dan Ives reacted positively to Tesla&#39;s investor day, stating that the company is beating its competitors.</p><p>&#34;For investors its crystal clear just how far ahead Tesla is ahead of the rest of the auto industry when it comes to producing/scaling EVs with last night another display of the pure breadth and scale of Tesla globally,&#34; he tweeted. &#34;This was a showcase event for Musk and the Tesla community.&#34;</p><p>Even though investors had sought more details about future models and sales projections, Ives is confident that Tesla can deliver a cheaper EV.</p><p>&#34;The reality is the Street will and has always walked away from Tesla investor days &#39;wanting more&#39;,&#34; he tweeted. &#34;But in my opinion that’s the Tesla/Musk DNA and seeing the forest through the trees yesterday presented all the ingredients in the recipe for a cheaper vehicle sub $30k likely by 25.&#34;</p><p>Gary Black, a Tesla bull, did not change his price target and maintains his prediction of $370 a share after the presentation.</p><p>&#34;$TSLA is still our top position,&#34; he tweeted. &#34;I didn’t change my $370 PT. No change in our long term thinking about the stock.&#34;</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1194292971","content_text":"Elon Musk and Tesla's senior management offered a four-hour presentation this week on the future of the electric vehicle maker.Musk told shareholders and analysts alike that the session was designed to offer a long-term view, rather than forecasts for the next few quarters. Tesla stock jumps 2% in premarket trading.Tesla Bulls Maintain PositionMorgan Stanley analyst, Adam Jonas, a Tesla bull, believes that Tesla's \"audacious efforts on vertical integration are about to pay off.\"Jonas, who maintains a price target of $220 a share, believes that other EV manufacturers will have a tough time competing with Tesla.\"We leave the investor day at Giga Austin asking which of Tesla's competitors can keep up with the planned spending of upwards of $170bn for the build-out of their manufacturing base for EVs and stationary storage,\" he wrote.The March 1 investor day should \"increase\" investor confidence, wrote Goldman Sachs analyst Mark Delaney.\"Tesla provided significant insights into how various teams are working to reduce cost, scale, and improve capabilities,\" he wrote. \"We believe the company was able to show good progress in areas such as casting, 4680 cells (such as with the dry coating of the electrodes), semiconductors/power electronics and software.\"But Delaney acknowledged that investors sought more substantial news about Tesla's plans for the short-term such as when a \"third generation vehicle could be shipping, and therefore the lack of clarity beyond the comment that they’re working as fast as they can and it could be in the next couple of years is likely to be viewed as a disappointment to some.\"Tesla has hinted at manufacturing a $25,000 model to attract more drivers into switching to purchasing an EV, but critics dislike the idea.Greg Wester, who is a product manager and an owner of a 2018 Tesla Model 3 who does not own any shares of Tesla, tweeted, \"Tesla is like BMW or Audi. 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Each of the three major U.S. stock indexes plummeted into a bear market, with the growth-focused <b>Nasdaq Composite</b> -- the index responsible for lifting the stock market to new highs in 2021 -- taking it on the chin with a loss of 33%.</p><p>However, big declines can sometimes lead to big opportunities for patient investors. With growth stocks getting absolutely clobbered in 2022, there is no shortage of potential turnaround candidates in the new year. Based on price targets from a select group of Wall Street analysts, the following three turnaround stocks offer upside potential ranging from 148% to 195% in 2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9031e44edf5e3f4860487f631e3482a\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Image source: Getty Images.</span></p><h2>Upstart Holdings: Implied upside of 152% in 2023</h2><p>The first turnaround stock with triple-digit upside potential in the new year is cloud-based lending platform <b>Upstart Holdings</b>. Despite plunging as much as 97% from its all-time high set in 2021, <b>Citigroup</b> analyst Peter Christiansen foresees shares of the company reaching $33. This would represent upside of as much as 152% this year.</p><p>The clear-cut issue for Upstart is the Federal Reserve&#39;s hawkish monetary policy. With the U.S. inflation rate hitting a more-than 40-year high of 9.1% this past June, the nation&#39;s central bank has responded by increasing its federal funds rate at the fastest pace in four decades. As rates increase, the desire for consumers and businesses to take out loans decreases. Additionally, it&#39;s not uncommon for loan delinquencies to rise as rates climb, which can cause banks and credit unions to think twice before handing out loans.</p><p>While high interest rates are less than ideal for a lending platform, Upstart has well-defined competitive advantages that should come into play when the pace of interest rate hikes slows this year.</p><p>The biggest differentiator for Upstart is that its cloud-based lending platform relies on artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning to vet loans. Utilizing AI allows Upstart&#39;s platform to grow smarter and more efficient at processing and analyzing loans over time.</p><p>Even though the average Upstart approval has a lower credit score than the traditional loan-vetting process, the delinquency rates between Upstart loans and the traditional process have been similar. The takeaway here is that Upstart can widen the scope of potential customers for lending institutions without necessarily increasing their credit-risk profiles.</p><p>Something else worth noting is that Upstart&#39;s vetting process is mostly automated. During the September-ended quarter, 75% of all approved loans were automated, which saves its 83 bank and credit union partners time and money.</p><p>Lastly, Upstart&#39;s expansion into new verticals is just getting started. After predominantly focusing on personal loans for years, it&#39;s begun offering its services for auto loan originations and small business loans. The latter two loan-origination markets are significantly larger than personal loans.</p><p>Though it could be a rough start to 2023, Upstart&#39;s competitive edges make it a logical go-to for financial institutions in the new year.</p><h2>Fastly: Implied upside of 195% in 2023</h2><p>A second beaten-down stock with serious turnaround potential in 2023, at least according to one Wall Street analyst, is edge cloud-computing company <b>Fastly</b>. If analyst Frank Louthan at <b>Raymond James</b> is correct, shares of Fastly can nearly triple to $25 this year.</p><p>Fastly, which is best known as a content-delivery network (CDN), was a big-time winner during the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic. Since it was tasked with moving data from the edge of the cloud to end users as quickly and securely as possible, the thinking among investors was that a hybrid work environment would drastically increase CDN demand. Since Fastly is a usage-driven company, the needle was, most definitely, pointing higher.</p><p>However, the Fastly train derailed in a big way over the past two years. Wider than expected losses and quite a bit of stock-based compensation have failed to wow Wall Street or support a once-lofty valuation that topped $15 billion. But while Fastly is down big, it&#39;s certainly not out.</p><p>In particular, many of Fastly&#39;s key metrics continue to impress. Fastly has added 599 total customers since the end of 2020 and has sustained a dollar-based net expansion rate (DBNER) of at least 118% over that time. DBNER provides a way to examine the spending habits of existing customers on a year-over-year basis. DBNER&#39;s range of 118% to 141% over the past seven quarters shows that existing customers are spending between 18% and 41% more on a year-over-year basis.</p><p>To add to the above, Fastly&#39;s revenue retention rate in 2020 and 2021 came in at 99.3% and 99.2%, respectively. When the company lands a customer, they tend to stick around (and increase their spending by a double-digit percentage).</p><p>Another important catalyst for Fastly is the hiring of Todd Nightingale as CEO. Nightingale was in charge of <b>Cisco Systems</b>&#39; cloud and network strategy and development, and will be tasked with leading innovation at Fastly while also being mindful of expenses.</p><p>Although a $25 price target might be a bit lofty for Fastly in 2023, it&#39;s not entirely out of the question if the company delivers tangible bottom-line improvements.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/94926930d93ff7aea0795dd7c67e3298\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"449\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Image source: Getty Images.</span></p><h2>CrowdStrike Holdings: Implied upside of 148% in 2023</h2><p>The third turnaround stock that offers incredible upside in 2023, based on Wall Street&#39;s high-water price target, is cybersecurity stock <b>CrowdStrike Holdings</b>. Analyst Trevor Walsh of JMP Securities foresees shares of the company rising to $235. This would represent upside of a cool 148% based on where CrowdStrike ended the previous week.</p><p>The biggest knock for CrowdStrike is simply its valuation. CrowdStrike&#39;s supercharged revenue growth has afforded it a sizable multiple relative to its sales and earnings. While this multiple was tolerated by investors when interest rates were at historic lows, this is no longer the case with rates rising and the Nasdaq in a bear market.</p><p>But CrowdStrike wouldn&#39;t be on this list if it didn&#39;t have a number of tailwinds in its sails. To begin with, it benefits from the highly defensive nature of the cybersecurity industry. No matter how poorly the U.S. economy or stock market performs, businesses of all sizes still need cybersecurity solutions to protect sensitive data from robots and hackers. Evolving into a basic necessity industry should allow CrowdStrike to generate highly predictable cash flow.</p><p>CrowdStrike&#39;s cloud-native Falcon security platform offers competitive advantages as well. Falcon oversees trillions of events each week and leans on AI and machine learning to protect end users. Even though it&#39;s not the cheapest end-user security solution available, CrowdStrike has seen its gross retention rate climb above 98%. In short, its premium price has proved well worth it for customers.</p><p>Speaking of customers, CrowdStrike has seen both its customer count and add-on sales soar. As I&#39;ve previously pointed out, the company&#39;s customer count has skyrocketed from 450 to more than 21,100 in less than six years. Meanwhile, 60% of its 21,100-plus customers have purchased five or more cloud module subscriptions. That compares to a single-digit percentage that had purchased four or more cloud subscriptions less than six years ago. Add-on sales from high-margin subscriptions is a recipe for CrowdStrike&#39;s adjusted subscription gross margin to approach 80%.</p><p>While it could be difficult for CrowdStrike&#39;s share price to get anywhere near $235 in 2023 with the Nasdaq bear market still in full force, ending the year higher certainly seems doable.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>3 Turnaround Stocks With 148% to 195% Upside in 2023, According to Wall Street</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n3 Turnaround Stocks With 148% to 195% Upside in 2023, According to Wall Street\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-01-13 14:39 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/01/12/3-turnaround-stocks-with-148-to-195-upside-in-2023/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>With the exception of the energy sector, there weren't too many bright spots last year. Each of the three major U.S. stock indexes plummeted into a bear market, with the growth-focused Nasdaq ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/01/12/3-turnaround-stocks-with-148-to-195-upside-in-2023/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4561":"索罗斯持仓","FSLY":"Fastly, Inc.","UPST":"Upstart Holdings, Inc.","BK4543":"AI","BK4166":"消费信贷","BK4528":"SaaS概念","BK4023":"应用软件","CRWD":"CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc.","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/01/12/3-turnaround-stocks-with-148-to-195-upside-in-2023/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2302869243","content_text":"With the exception of the energy sector, there weren't too many bright spots last year. Each of the three major U.S. stock indexes plummeted into a bear market, with the growth-focused Nasdaq Composite -- the index responsible for lifting the stock market to new highs in 2021 -- taking it on the chin with a loss of 33%.However, big declines can sometimes lead to big opportunities for patient investors. With growth stocks getting absolutely clobbered in 2022, there is no shortage of potential turnaround candidates in the new year. Based on price targets from a select group of Wall Street analysts, the following three turnaround stocks offer upside potential ranging from 148% to 195% in 2023.Image source: Getty Images.Upstart Holdings: Implied upside of 152% in 2023The first turnaround stock with triple-digit upside potential in the new year is cloud-based lending platform Upstart Holdings. Despite plunging as much as 97% from its all-time high set in 2021, Citigroup analyst Peter Christiansen foresees shares of the company reaching $33. This would represent upside of as much as 152% this year.The clear-cut issue for Upstart is the Federal Reserve's hawkish monetary policy. With the U.S. inflation rate hitting a more-than 40-year high of 9.1% this past June, the nation's central bank has responded by increasing its federal funds rate at the fastest pace in four decades. As rates increase, the desire for consumers and businesses to take out loans decreases. Additionally, it's not uncommon for loan delinquencies to rise as rates climb, which can cause banks and credit unions to think twice before handing out loans.While high interest rates are less than ideal for a lending platform, Upstart has well-defined competitive advantages that should come into play when the pace of interest rate hikes slows this year.The biggest differentiator for Upstart is that its cloud-based lending platform relies on artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning to vet loans. Utilizing AI allows Upstart's platform to grow smarter and more efficient at processing and analyzing loans over time.Even though the average Upstart approval has a lower credit score than the traditional loan-vetting process, the delinquency rates between Upstart loans and the traditional process have been similar. The takeaway here is that Upstart can widen the scope of potential customers for lending institutions without necessarily increasing their credit-risk profiles.Something else worth noting is that Upstart's vetting process is mostly automated. During the September-ended quarter, 75% of all approved loans were automated, which saves its 83 bank and credit union partners time and money.Lastly, Upstart's expansion into new verticals is just getting started. After predominantly focusing on personal loans for years, it's begun offering its services for auto loan originations and small business loans. The latter two loan-origination markets are significantly larger than personal loans.Though it could be a rough start to 2023, Upstart's competitive edges make it a logical go-to for financial institutions in the new year.Fastly: Implied upside of 195% in 2023A second beaten-down stock with serious turnaround potential in 2023, at least according to one Wall Street analyst, is edge cloud-computing company Fastly. If analyst Frank Louthan at Raymond James is correct, shares of Fastly can nearly triple to $25 this year.Fastly, which is best known as a content-delivery network (CDN), was a big-time winner during the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic. Since it was tasked with moving data from the edge of the cloud to end users as quickly and securely as possible, the thinking among investors was that a hybrid work environment would drastically increase CDN demand. Since Fastly is a usage-driven company, the needle was, most definitely, pointing higher.However, the Fastly train derailed in a big way over the past two years. Wider than expected losses and quite a bit of stock-based compensation have failed to wow Wall Street or support a once-lofty valuation that topped $15 billion. But while Fastly is down big, it's certainly not out.In particular, many of Fastly's key metrics continue to impress. Fastly has added 599 total customers since the end of 2020 and has sustained a dollar-based net expansion rate (DBNER) of at least 118% over that time. DBNER provides a way to examine the spending habits of existing customers on a year-over-year basis. DBNER's range of 118% to 141% over the past seven quarters shows that existing customers are spending between 18% and 41% more on a year-over-year basis.To add to the above, Fastly's revenue retention rate in 2020 and 2021 came in at 99.3% and 99.2%, respectively. When the company lands a customer, they tend to stick around (and increase their spending by a double-digit percentage).Another important catalyst for Fastly is the hiring of Todd Nightingale as CEO. Nightingale was in charge of Cisco Systems' cloud and network strategy and development, and will be tasked with leading innovation at Fastly while also being mindful of expenses.Although a $25 price target might be a bit lofty for Fastly in 2023, it's not entirely out of the question if the company delivers tangible bottom-line improvements.Image source: Getty Images.CrowdStrike Holdings: Implied upside of 148% in 2023The third turnaround stock that offers incredible upside in 2023, based on Wall Street's high-water price target, is cybersecurity stock CrowdStrike Holdings. Analyst Trevor Walsh of JMP Securities foresees shares of the company rising to $235. This would represent upside of a cool 148% based on where CrowdStrike ended the previous week.The biggest knock for CrowdStrike is simply its valuation. CrowdStrike's supercharged revenue growth has afforded it a sizable multiple relative to its sales and earnings. While this multiple was tolerated by investors when interest rates were at historic lows, this is no longer the case with rates rising and the Nasdaq in a bear market.But CrowdStrike wouldn't be on this list if it didn't have a number of tailwinds in its sails. To begin with, it benefits from the highly defensive nature of the cybersecurity industry. No matter how poorly the U.S. economy or stock market performs, businesses of all sizes still need cybersecurity solutions to protect sensitive data from robots and hackers. Evolving into a basic necessity industry should allow CrowdStrike to generate highly predictable cash flow.CrowdStrike's cloud-native Falcon security platform offers competitive advantages as well. Falcon oversees trillions of events each week and leans on AI and machine learning to protect end users. Even though it's not the cheapest end-user security solution available, CrowdStrike has seen its gross retention rate climb above 98%. In short, its premium price has proved well worth it for customers.Speaking of customers, CrowdStrike has seen both its customer count and add-on sales soar. As I've previously pointed out, the company's customer count has skyrocketed from 450 to more than 21,100 in less than six years. Meanwhile, 60% of its 21,100-plus customers have purchased five or more cloud module subscriptions. That compares to a single-digit percentage that had purchased four or more cloud subscriptions less than six years ago. Add-on sales from high-margin subscriptions is a recipe for CrowdStrike's adjusted subscription gross margin to approach 80%.While it could be difficult for CrowdStrike's share price to get anywhere near $235 in 2023 with the Nasdaq bear market still in full force, ending the year higher certainly seems doable.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":53,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9071094635,"gmtCreate":1657425754127,"gmtModify":1676536006582,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. It's a prettybasic equation","listText":"Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. It's a prettybasic equation","text":"Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. 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This stock still has a long way to drop!</li><li>Tesla&#39;s broad-based sales are declining for the first time in two years.</li><li>The U.S. Treasury yield curve implies that contractionary monetary policies could wane on durable goods.</li><li>Tesla is overvalued and exhibits unfavorable beta sensitivity.</li></ul><p><b>Tesla</b>(NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>) surprised the market with its June preliminary deliveries report, which unveiled a 1.42x month-over-month increase in Chinese regional sales. Regionally, the electric vehicle giant sold more than 78,000 vehicles last month, a 1.35x year-over-year increase. Many investors are likely to jump on a recovery play as the company’s sales recovery could be misinterpreted for early-stage momentum. However, it’s necessary to recognize that Tesla’s China sales could be a temporary uptick as regional political risk remains elevated. In addition, TSLA stock has significant valuation issues, causing the current market environment to act unkindly toward it. Moreover, Tesla’s beta sensitivity means that it could be one of the major losers if a bear market persists.</p><p>Generally speaking, I believe TSLA stock is overhyped and set for further declines. Let’s dive deeper into it!</p><p><b>Tesla’s Prospective Sales</b></p><p>Investors shouldn’t be overwhelmed by TSLA’s latest China sales surge. Much of the sales have to do with the supply-side, where factories were allowed to produce again after certain pandemic restrictions were lifted. As such, sales proliferated. Additionally, Chinese pandemic lockdown policies have been inconsistent, to say the least. Thus, the question beckons whether Tesla’s China sales are sustainable in the long haul.</p><p>Furthermore, Tesla’s broad-based sales are taking a dip. The firm’s second-quarter sales report conveyed a decline in quarterly sales for the first time in two years. Tesla produced 258,000 vehicles in the quarter and delivered 254,659, reconciling to a 17.9% year-over-year decrease. Although much of the firm’s receding sales figure was down to production constraints, there’s much reason to believe that the economic climate is taking its toll on consumers.</p><p>I want to elaborate on the economy and what it means for TSLA stock. The U.S. Treasury Yield Curve implies that interest rates could settle above the 3% level before declining again. This means that the leading consumer economy in the world will be subject to contractionary monetary policies, which could see global consumer spending power wane. Moreover, the contraction of economic growth will likely affect the automotive industry as durable goods sales negatively correlate with rising interest rates. As such, Tesla could see its five-year compound annual growth rate of 48.72% retrace to a growth trend more stationary to gross domestic product growth soon.</p><p><b>Price Level Concerns With TSLA Stock</b></p><p>Using relative valuation metrics to assess growth stocks usually isn’t prudent. Nonetheless, whenever a bear market appears, it is probable that risk-averse investors will sell their overvalued assets first. TSLA stock is trading at11.29xits sales, 52.32x its cash flow, and 77.09x its earnings. Thus, it is safe to say that we’re looking at an overvalued stock here.</p><p>Additionally, TSLA stock’s high beta status could coalesce with its poor valuation metrics to cause a tremendous drawdown. Tesla’s beta coefficient of 2.13 means that it exhibits excess sensitivity to the broader market, which is exactly what you do not want in a bear market.</p><p>So, all matters considered, I think TSLA stock is a strong sell!</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla’s China Sales Increase Provides Little Substance</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla’s China Sales Increase Provides Little Substance\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-07-10 12:02 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/category/todays-market/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Don't letTesla's(NASDAQ:TSLA) latest China sales report fool you. This stock still has a long way to drop!Tesla's broad-based sales are declining for the first time in two years.The U.S. Treasury ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/category/todays-market/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/category/todays-market/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1116439526","content_text":"Don't letTesla's(NASDAQ:TSLA) latest China sales report fool you. This stock still has a long way to drop!Tesla's broad-based sales are declining for the first time in two years.The U.S. Treasury yield curve implies that contractionary monetary policies could wane on durable goods.Tesla is overvalued and exhibits unfavorable beta sensitivity.Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA) surprised the market with its June preliminary deliveries report, which unveiled a 1.42x month-over-month increase in Chinese regional sales. Regionally, the electric vehicle giant sold more than 78,000 vehicles last month, a 1.35x year-over-year increase. Many investors are likely to jump on a recovery play as the company’s sales recovery could be misinterpreted for early-stage momentum. However, it’s necessary to recognize that Tesla’s China sales could be a temporary uptick as regional political risk remains elevated. In addition, TSLA stock has significant valuation issues, causing the current market environment to act unkindly toward it. Moreover, Tesla’s beta sensitivity means that it could be one of the major losers if a bear market persists.Generally speaking, I believe TSLA stock is overhyped and set for further declines. Let’s dive deeper into it!Tesla’s Prospective SalesInvestors shouldn’t be overwhelmed by TSLA’s latest China sales surge. Much of the sales have to do with the supply-side, where factories were allowed to produce again after certain pandemic restrictions were lifted. As such, sales proliferated. Additionally, Chinese pandemic lockdown policies have been inconsistent, to say the least. Thus, the question beckons whether Tesla’s China sales are sustainable in the long haul.Furthermore, Tesla’s broad-based sales are taking a dip. The firm’s second-quarter sales report conveyed a decline in quarterly sales for the first time in two years. Tesla produced 258,000 vehicles in the quarter and delivered 254,659, reconciling to a 17.9% year-over-year decrease. Although much of the firm’s receding sales figure was down to production constraints, there’s much reason to believe that the economic climate is taking its toll on consumers.I want to elaborate on the economy and what it means for TSLA stock. The U.S. Treasury Yield Curve implies that interest rates could settle above the 3% level before declining again. This means that the leading consumer economy in the world will be subject to contractionary monetary policies, which could see global consumer spending power wane. Moreover, the contraction of economic growth will likely affect the automotive industry as durable goods sales negatively correlate with rising interest rates. As such, Tesla could see its five-year compound annual growth rate of 48.72% retrace to a growth trend more stationary to gross domestic product growth soon.Price Level Concerns With TSLA StockUsing relative valuation metrics to assess growth stocks usually isn’t prudent. Nonetheless, whenever a bear market appears, it is probable that risk-averse investors will sell their overvalued assets first. TSLA stock is trading at11.29xits sales, 52.32x its cash flow, and 77.09x its earnings. Thus, it is safe to say that we’re looking at an overvalued stock here.Additionally, TSLA stock’s high beta status could coalesce with its poor valuation metrics to cause a tremendous drawdown. Tesla’s beta coefficient of 2.13 means that it exhibits excess sensitivity to the broader market, which is exactly what you do not want in a bear market.So, all matters considered, I think TSLA stock is a strong sell!","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":103,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9062036267,"gmtCreate":1651976049759,"gmtModify":1676535006517,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"The scale of its production and speed of its expansion is unmatched.","listText":"The scale of its production and speed of its expansion is unmatched.","text":"The scale of its production and speed of its expansion is unmatched.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9062036267","repostId":"1156333883","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1156333883","pubTimestamp":1651974120,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1156333883?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-05-08 09:42","market":"us","language":"en","title":"TSLA Stock News: 3 Biggest Headlines That Tesla Investors Need to Know This Week","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1156333883","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA), like many of its mega-cap peers, has spent this week battling negative market forces. 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Let’s take a look at this week’s news rundown for TSLA stock investors.</p><p>Top Headlines for TSLA Stock Investors</p><p><i>Tesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with Vale</i></p><p>This news represents a significant step forward in Tesla’s quest to conquer the electric vehicle (EV) battery market. Supply chain constraints, including those stemming from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, have posed significant threats to battery production. For Tesla to confirm a multi-year deal with<b>Vale</b>(NYSE:<b><u>VALE</u></b>), one of the world’s leading nickel producers, is no small thing. It positions the company well to keep producing batteries. Anyone who doubted Tesla’s resources should be reassured of its ability to procure valuable battery materials.</p><p><i>Tesla targets pre-lockdown output in Shanghai by mid-May</i></p><p>Tesla has resumed production in Shanghai and it is determined to make up for lost time. The company has already scaled EV production at the plant back to 80% of its pre-shutdown levels. <i>Reuters</i> reports that while the company is only running one shift at the Shanghai facility, it plans to add another soon. Prior to the recent shutdowns, it was running three. At this rate, Tesla won’t have a problem meeting its goal of returning to its original output by mid-May.</p><p><i>Analyst: Q2 2022 will be “monstrous” for Tesla</i></p><p>Wall Street is still bullish on TSLA stock and one analyst just issued a positive take. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry recently issued a note to investors. “May 2022 is off to an extremely strong [start with] Production, Shipments, and Deliveries,” he wrote. 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With the market selloff spurred by Federal Reserve rate hikes, many companies struggled. TSLA ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-news-3-biggest-headlines-that-tesla-investors-need-to-know-this-week/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-news-3-biggest-headlines-that-tesla-investors-need-to-know-this-week/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1156333883","content_text":"Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA), like many of its mega-cap peers, has spent this week battling negative market forces. With the market selloff spurred by Federal Reserve rate hikes, many companies struggled. TSLA stock was no different, now down 20% for the month.However, Tesla reported some good news this week.The company is planning to expand its gigafactory facilities in both Berlin and Shanghai. Plus, production is already back up to 80% of what it was prior to the Shanghai shutdowns. If both expansion efforts materialize, the factories will be set to continue scaling production and meet the rising demand across both Europe and Asia.Those weren’t the only stories worth paying attention to, though. Let’s take a look at this week’s news rundown for TSLA stock investors.Top Headlines for TSLA Stock InvestorsTesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with ValeThis news represents a significant step forward in Tesla’s quest to conquer the electric vehicle (EV) battery market. Supply chain constraints, including those stemming from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, have posed significant threats to battery production. For Tesla to confirm a multi-year deal withVale(NYSE:VALE), one of the world’s leading nickel producers, is no small thing. It positions the company well to keep producing batteries. Anyone who doubted Tesla’s resources should be reassured of its ability to procure valuable battery materials.Tesla targets pre-lockdown output in Shanghai by mid-MayTesla has resumed production in Shanghai and it is determined to make up for lost time. The company has already scaled EV production at the plant back to 80% of its pre-shutdown levels. Reuters reports that while the company is only running one shift at the Shanghai facility, it plans to add another soon. Prior to the recent shutdowns, it was running three. At this rate, Tesla won’t have a problem meeting its goal of returning to its original output by mid-May.Analyst: Q2 2022 will be “monstrous” for TeslaWall Street is still bullish on TSLA stock and one analyst just issued a positive take. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry recently issued a note to investors. “May 2022 is off to an extremely strong [start with] Production, Shipments, and Deliveries,” he wrote. 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Yet, business is business, and my intuition and research is telling me to make this change.</li><li>In the following piece, I will expound on why I have decided to take profits on my Tesla position and start a new position in Ford.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/924d44c1e072e2ad774acb68c4b49fe9\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>jetcityimage/iStock Editorial via Getty Images</span></p><p><b>What Happened?</b></p><p>Today, I took profits on my long-term position in Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford (NYSE:F). In the following sections, I will explain my reasoning for making this move.</p><p><b>You must take profits to make profits</b></p><p>I often quote my father, who was my mentor and an outstanding stockbroker. One of his mantras was &#34;You have to take profits to make profits.&#34; The meaning behind this is the fact it&#39;s all &#34;unrealized&#34; paper gains until you actually sell the security and transfer the proceeds into your checking account and/or into another investment. Further, he was very disciplined regarding when profits should be taken and why. Fortunately, I fell in love with my Tesla position and have held it way longer than my father ever would have, making it one of my most lucrative investments. Nevertheless, I endured several drawdowns over the years. Now, with Musk buying Twitter (TWTR) by pledging an additional $45 billion worth of Tesla shares, I have decided to take profits and sit this one out amongst other reasons. Let me explain.</p><p><b>Musk&#39;s highly leveraged Tesla position increases risk</b></p><p>Elon is buying a majority of Twitter by taking out a $49 billion margin loan against his Tesla shares. He already has pledged a substantial amount of Tesla shares previously, bringing his margin total to $89 billion. Further, Musk is the first lienholder on the Twitter position. He is on the hook for essentially the first $33 billion of Twitter, if by some chance they can&#39;t pay the bills.</p><p>Musk has already stated it&#39;s not about the money to him, so that doesn&#39;t necessarily give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about the prospects. Further, if for some unforeseen reason Tesla shares fall and Musk gets a margin call, that would be a major debacle. It has happened before. Nearly 10 years ago to the day, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters demoted its founder and chairman, Robert Stiller, and its lead director, William Davis, after the high-flying coffee company&#39;s share-price plunged forced the men into emergency stock sales resulting from margin calls. In fact, many companies have banned the practice at this point. Now, this is definitely a &#34;backburner&#34; type issue as Musk is constantly receiving new shares and options, yet it is there in the back of my mind. Further, I really don&#39;t find the new Cybertruck appealing. I like Ford&#39;s F150 Lightning pickup, which leads me to my next point.</p><p><b>The competition has finally arrived</b></p><p>The Ford F150 Lightning is now officially in production. I have done my research on the truck and I love it. Ford CEO Jim Farley said on Monday:</p><blockquote><i>The company is not joking around by saying the electric F-150 lightning could be as big a product for the automaker as the Model T back in 1908.</i></blockquote><p>I would have to agree. Ford plans to scale production of the F-150 Lightning even faster than competitors, with plans to boost manufacturing of the Lightning at a plant in Dearborn to 150,000 units in the next year, up from an initial target of 40,000 vehicles.</p><p>What&#39;s more, Ford has secured the lithium-ion batteries needed to meet its expected level of production of 150,000 units next year. Moreover, the company plans to prioritize supplies of semiconductor chips toward the F-150 Lightning.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c42cd5b5effe20ffbbd01bed01c0e3bc\" tg-width=\"617\" tg-height=\"389\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford F150 Lightning Pickup (Ford website)</span></p><p>The response has been so overwhelming, Ford is no longer taking retail reservations at this time. Additionally, Ford isn&#39;t the only competition. As I&#39;m sure you are aware, there is a plethora of new EV vehicle entrants into the race. The primary reason I&#39;ve chosen to switch from Tesla to Ford is the product. Secondarily, is valuation. Let me explain.</p><p><b>Two completely different animals when it comes to valuation</b></p><p>Tesla trades at 16 times sales while Ford currently trading at 0.47 times sales. Basically, making Ford the Rodney Dangerfield of EV players – “Ford don&#39;t get no respect!” Ha! Now, Tesla may very well deserve its elevated valuation based on its growth rate trajectory and the value of said future cash flows. Nonetheless, under the current Federal Reserve regime, the value of these future cash flows may be diminished greatly by inflation and increased interest rates. I am making a conscious effort to reduce my exposure to &#34;long-duration assets.&#34; Let me explain why Ford presents a better opportunity under current conditions.</p><p><b>Ford significantly undervalued</b></p><p>First of all, Ford is basically trading for a song at the present valuation. Ford&#39;s forward P/E of 6.57 is just over a third of the current S&amp;P 500 Forward P/E of 19.44. The stock is trading for 1.2 times book of $12.14. If ever there was a bargain basement buying opportunity in Ford, this is it.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1ecd5be52cd449328e56f792ebe9ad27\" tg-width=\"467\" tg-height=\"134\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford Fundamentals (Finviz)</span></p><p>On top of this, management has done an excellent job of cleaning up the balance sheet. The company maintains a fortress balance sheet with $11.63 per share in cash alone. This helps me not just sleep well, but sleep like a baby at night. Furthermore, the stock has sold off substantially since the start of the year and appears to me to be at an inflection point.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5faca498ac9117d6d6aebc61f4c22dea\" tg-width=\"278\" tg-height=\"389\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford 2022 Performance (Finviz)</span></p><p>With the stock trading for rock bottom pricing and having the weak hands thoroughly shaken out over the last few months by the insipid macro environment, I suggest now is an excellent time to start a position heading into earnings. One of my top investing mentors, Sir John Templeton&#39;s quote of &#34;Buy at the point of maximum pessimism&#34; seems quite apropos. The market just experienced a 7 to 1 advance/decline trading day today with 7 stocks down for every 1 stock up. This qualifies as a substantial washout in my book. The baby has definitely been thrown out with the bath water in my book. Furthermore, the Ford CEO Jim Farley is a salesman extraordinaire.</p><p><b>Ford CEO Jim Farley is special</b></p><p>Ford&#39;s CEO Jim Farley has personality for days and is extremely competitive. His statement that the Ford F150 Lightning will be bigger than the model T is the proof in the pudding of what I say. Not to mention the electrifying Ford Mustang Mach-E which definitely lives up to the hype.</p><p>Farley has captured the attention of all, rivaling the likes of P.T. Barnum in some ways, much like his famous cousin Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live, who I absolutely adored. Yet, don&#39;t get me wrong, he has the wherewithal and business acumen to back it up. His career in automobiles was inspired by his grandfather who began working for Ford in 1914. I have faith that Farley will be able to present the best case for the company on the upcoming earnings call. Ford is due to report earnings on April 27th after the close.</p><p><b>Ford Earnings Preview</b></p><p>The following table details Ford&#39;s expected earnings estimates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5856ccd7559c4442c6cfac6efae3d8\" tg-width=\"617\" tg-height=\"242\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>You can see that there have been six downward revisions over the last 90 days. With the stock down significantly going into earnings and expectations diminished, I see the company beating estimates and rising. Even so, the real focus will be on guidance, which has already &#34;quasi&#34; been announced with them revealing they will produce 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups rather than the original 40,000. I am expecting Ford to pop on earnings. This is why I made the move to sell Tesla and buy Ford ahead of the announcement. Nonetheless, I have only bought one-third of the position in order to reduce risk. In these situations where I have a positive outlook on earnings, I will divide the buys into thirds. One-third before earnings to gain a foothold, one-third after earnings, and one-third in reserve to buy on any future potential weakness. I always suggest layering into new positions over time to reduce risk. Now let&#39;s wrap it up.</p><p><b>Wrap up</b></p><p>I love Elon Musk and all that he has done for the country and the world frankly. Even so, adding Twitter to his endeavors in addition to Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, The Boring Company, and any others I may have forgotten, I think he may be reaching his limit. Further, he definitely has maxed out his Tesla margin credit card at this point, which gives me pause. Yet, the primary factor that sealed the deal for me was what I believe is Ford&#39;s superior product, the F150 Lightning, which I plan to buy as soon as available. On top of this, Ford&#39;s conservative valuation was a major selling point as well. The valuation factor is of particular import to me based on the recent change in the Federal Reserve&#39;s regime, from Dove to Hawk. And finally, I made this move in order to cash in and &#34;realize&#34; the substantial gains I had with my long-term Tesla position. I have held it in a tax advantaged account, so the capital gains created were not an issue for me. I bring this up because this transaction is particular to my unique situation. It may not be appropriate for all investors. That is why you should always consult a financial advisor before making any decisions regarding your investments. Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this article. I hope I provided some tidbit of value with this effort.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-27 17:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","F":"福特汽车"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2230432994","content_text":"SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my intuition and research is telling me to make this change.In the following piece, I will expound on why I have decided to take profits on my Tesla position and start a new position in Ford.jetcityimage/iStock Editorial via Getty ImagesWhat Happened?Today, I took profits on my long-term position in Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford (NYSE:F). In the following sections, I will explain my reasoning for making this move.You must take profits to make profitsI often quote my father, who was my mentor and an outstanding stockbroker. One of his mantras was \"You have to take profits to make profits.\" The meaning behind this is the fact it's all \"unrealized\" paper gains until you actually sell the security and transfer the proceeds into your checking account and/or into another investment. Further, he was very disciplined regarding when profits should be taken and why. Fortunately, I fell in love with my Tesla position and have held it way longer than my father ever would have, making it one of my most lucrative investments. Nevertheless, I endured several drawdowns over the years. Now, with Musk buying Twitter (TWTR) by pledging an additional $45 billion worth of Tesla shares, I have decided to take profits and sit this one out amongst other reasons. Let me explain.Musk's highly leveraged Tesla position increases riskElon is buying a majority of Twitter by taking out a $49 billion margin loan against his Tesla shares. He already has pledged a substantial amount of Tesla shares previously, bringing his margin total to $89 billion. Further, Musk is the first lienholder on the Twitter position. He is on the hook for essentially the first $33 billion of Twitter, if by some chance they can't pay the bills.Musk has already stated it's not about the money to him, so that doesn't necessarily give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about the prospects. Further, if for some unforeseen reason Tesla shares fall and Musk gets a margin call, that would be a major debacle. It has happened before. Nearly 10 years ago to the day, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters demoted its founder and chairman, Robert Stiller, and its lead director, William Davis, after the high-flying coffee company's share-price plunged forced the men into emergency stock sales resulting from margin calls. In fact, many companies have banned the practice at this point. Now, this is definitely a \"backburner\" type issue as Musk is constantly receiving new shares and options, yet it is there in the back of my mind. Further, I really don't find the new Cybertruck appealing. I like Ford's F150 Lightning pickup, which leads me to my next point.The competition has finally arrivedThe Ford F150 Lightning is now officially in production. I have done my research on the truck and I love it. Ford CEO Jim Farley said on Monday:The company is not joking around by saying the electric F-150 lightning could be as big a product for the automaker as the Model T back in 1908.I would have to agree. Ford plans to scale production of the F-150 Lightning even faster than competitors, with plans to boost manufacturing of the Lightning at a plant in Dearborn to 150,000 units in the next year, up from an initial target of 40,000 vehicles.What's more, Ford has secured the lithium-ion batteries needed to meet its expected level of production of 150,000 units next year. Moreover, the company plans to prioritize supplies of semiconductor chips toward the F-150 Lightning.Ford F150 Lightning Pickup (Ford website)The response has been so overwhelming, Ford is no longer taking retail reservations at this time. Additionally, Ford isn't the only competition. As I'm sure you are aware, there is a plethora of new EV vehicle entrants into the race. The primary reason I've chosen to switch from Tesla to Ford is the product. Secondarily, is valuation. Let me explain.Two completely different animals when it comes to valuationTesla trades at 16 times sales while Ford currently trading at 0.47 times sales. Basically, making Ford the Rodney Dangerfield of EV players – “Ford don't get no respect!” Ha! Now, Tesla may very well deserve its elevated valuation based on its growth rate trajectory and the value of said future cash flows. Nonetheless, under the current Federal Reserve regime, the value of these future cash flows may be diminished greatly by inflation and increased interest rates. I am making a conscious effort to reduce my exposure to \"long-duration assets.\" Let me explain why Ford presents a better opportunity under current conditions.Ford significantly undervaluedFirst of all, Ford is basically trading for a song at the present valuation. Ford's forward P/E of 6.57 is just over a third of the current S&P 500 Forward P/E of 19.44. The stock is trading for 1.2 times book of $12.14. If ever there was a bargain basement buying opportunity in Ford, this is it.Ford Fundamentals (Finviz)On top of this, management has done an excellent job of cleaning up the balance sheet. The company maintains a fortress balance sheet with $11.63 per share in cash alone. This helps me not just sleep well, but sleep like a baby at night. Furthermore, the stock has sold off substantially since the start of the year and appears to me to be at an inflection point.Ford 2022 Performance (Finviz)With the stock trading for rock bottom pricing and having the weak hands thoroughly shaken out over the last few months by the insipid macro environment, I suggest now is an excellent time to start a position heading into earnings. One of my top investing mentors, Sir John Templeton's quote of \"Buy at the point of maximum pessimism\" seems quite apropos. The market just experienced a 7 to 1 advance/decline trading day today with 7 stocks down for every 1 stock up. This qualifies as a substantial washout in my book. The baby has definitely been thrown out with the bath water in my book. Furthermore, the Ford CEO Jim Farley is a salesman extraordinaire.Ford CEO Jim Farley is specialFord's CEO Jim Farley has personality for days and is extremely competitive. His statement that the Ford F150 Lightning will be bigger than the model T is the proof in the pudding of what I say. Not to mention the electrifying Ford Mustang Mach-E which definitely lives up to the hype.Farley has captured the attention of all, rivaling the likes of P.T. Barnum in some ways, much like his famous cousin Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live, who I absolutely adored. Yet, don't get me wrong, he has the wherewithal and business acumen to back it up. His career in automobiles was inspired by his grandfather who began working for Ford in 1914. I have faith that Farley will be able to present the best case for the company on the upcoming earnings call. Ford is due to report earnings on April 27th after the close.Ford Earnings PreviewThe following table details Ford's expected earnings estimates.Seeking AlphaYou can see that there have been six downward revisions over the last 90 days. With the stock down significantly going into earnings and expectations diminished, I see the company beating estimates and rising. Even so, the real focus will be on guidance, which has already \"quasi\" been announced with them revealing they will produce 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups rather than the original 40,000. I am expecting Ford to pop on earnings. This is why I made the move to sell Tesla and buy Ford ahead of the announcement. Nonetheless, I have only bought one-third of the position in order to reduce risk. In these situations where I have a positive outlook on earnings, I will divide the buys into thirds. One-third before earnings to gain a foothold, one-third after earnings, and one-third in reserve to buy on any future potential weakness. I always suggest layering into new positions over time to reduce risk. Now let's wrap it up.Wrap upI love Elon Musk and all that he has done for the country and the world frankly. Even so, adding Twitter to his endeavors in addition to Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, The Boring Company, and any others I may have forgotten, I think he may be reaching his limit. Further, he definitely has maxed out his Tesla margin credit card at this point, which gives me pause. Yet, the primary factor that sealed the deal for me was what I believe is Ford's superior product, the F150 Lightning, which I plan to buy as soon as available. On top of this, Ford's conservative valuation was a major selling point as well. The valuation factor is of particular import to me based on the recent change in the Federal Reserve's regime, from Dove to Hawk. And finally, I made this move in order to cash in and \"realize\" the substantial gains I had with my long-term Tesla position. I have held it in a tax advantaged account, so the capital gains created were not an issue for me. I bring this up because this transaction is particular to my unique situation. It may not be appropriate for all investors. That is why you should always consult a financial advisor before making any decisions regarding your investments. Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this article. I hope I provided some tidbit of value with this effort.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":73,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":9970397357,"gmtCreate":1683896930279,"gmtModify":1683896935272,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It's nice knowing everyone. Take care.","listText":"It's nice knowing everyone. Take care.","text":"It's nice knowing everyone. Take care.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":14,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970397357","repostId":"1199366607","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1199366607","pubTimestamp":1683894458,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1199366607?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-12 20:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1199366607","media":"Techstory","summary":"In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with div","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aa7193bb27f6978e976de34598d2f8bc\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"512\"/></p><p>In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, BabyAGI, and other open-source and proprietary AIs are some of the examples available in the market.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The AI systems mentioned have exhibited remarkable intelligence and capabilities that were once considered exclusive to human cognition. The usage of large language models in stock market analysis and forecast has been in discussions since the beginning of this AI trend.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A finance professor at the University of Florida, Alejandro Lopez-Lira, conducted a recent study revealing that large language models, such as ChatGPT, can be highly valuable in predicting stock prices. In fact, ChatGPT achieved a remarkable 500% return in one investing model, surpassing conventional sentiment analysis models that are commonly utilized by hedge funds.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Lopez-Lira utilized ChatGPT to analyze news headlines to determine whether they were favorable or unfavorable for a stock. The study discovered that ChatGPT’s forecasting ability to predict the direction of the next day’s returns was considerably better than random chance.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/04e8bb1da54048e266875913c4d3f190\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"800\" tg-height=\"533\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The experiment conducted by Alejandro Lopez-Lira highlights the potential of state-of-the-art artificial intelligence. The findings suggest that larger computational resources and improved datasets, such as those used to develop ChatGPT, can give rise to “emergent abilities” or capabilities that were not originally intended during the AI model’s development.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This implies that the potential applications of these AI models could be much broader and more diverse than previously imagined, with possible implications for industries beyond finance.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Lopez-Lira stated that ChatGPT’s ability to comprehend information intended for humans makes it highly likely that there will be return predictability, even if the market does not react in an ideal manner.</p><h3 style=\"text-align: start;\">METHOD OF STUDY AND FINDINGS</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers used a customized prompt to ask ChatGPT to assume the role of a financial expert with experience in stock recommendations and evaluate the impact of a given news headline on a company’s stock price in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">ChatGPT was asked to answer “YES” if the news is good for the stock price, “NO” if it is bad, or “UNKNOWN” if it is uncertain. The researchers then transformed ChatGPT’s recommendation into a score and run linear regressions of the next day’s returns on the ChatGPT score to test its predictive power.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The prompt was specifically designed for financial analysis and asked ChatGPT to evaluate a given news headline and its potential impact on a company’s stock price in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers assumed that the headline contains sufficient information for an expert in the financial industry to assess its impact on the stock price reasonably. ChatGPT was then asked to explain its answer concisely in one sentence. The authors set a temperature of 0 to maximize the reproducibility of the results.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The study shows that ChatGPT can provide recommendations for news headlines that are predictive of the next day’s stock returns. The ChatGPT score has a statistically significant relationship with the next day’s returns, indicating that the model can generate emergent abilities for financial analysis tasks.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers compared ChatGPT’s results to the sentiment score provided by a news curating company and found out that ChatGPT’s score is more predictive of the next day’s returns.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/192320358bbcbaf611cfb1188e72eccb\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"2320\" tg-height=\"1346\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The study’s conclusion asserts that ChatGPT exhibits superior performance compared to traditional sentiment analysis techniques provided by a prominent vendor.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The research findings highlight the potential of large language models in financial economics and contribute to the expanding collection of literature on the applications of artificial intelligence and natural language processing in this field.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In an interview with CNBC, Lopez-Lira stated that hedge funds had contacted him to gain further insights into his research. He also expressed his belief that ChatGPT’s capacity to anticipate stock price fluctuations might diminish in the future as more institutions begin to incorporate this technology.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1638775714613","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-05-12 20:27 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/><strong>Techstory</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GOOG":"谷歌","MSFT":"微软"},"source_url":"https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1199366607","content_text":"In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, BabyAGI, and other open-source and proprietary AIs are some of the examples available in the market.The AI systems mentioned have exhibited remarkable intelligence and capabilities that were once considered exclusive to human cognition. The usage of large language models in stock market analysis and forecast has been in discussions since the beginning of this AI trend.A finance professor at the University of Florida, Alejandro Lopez-Lira, conducted a recent study revealing that large language models, such as ChatGPT, can be highly valuable in predicting stock prices. In fact, ChatGPT achieved a remarkable 500% return in one investing model, surpassing conventional sentiment analysis models that are commonly utilized by hedge funds.Lopez-Lira utilized ChatGPT to analyze news headlines to determine whether they were favorable or unfavorable for a stock. The study discovered that ChatGPT’s forecasting ability to predict the direction of the next day’s returns was considerably better than random chance.The experiment conducted by Alejandro Lopez-Lira highlights the potential of state-of-the-art artificial intelligence. The findings suggest that larger computational resources and improved datasets, such as those used to develop ChatGPT, can give rise to “emergent abilities” or capabilities that were not originally intended during the AI model’s development.This implies that the potential applications of these AI models could be much broader and more diverse than previously imagined, with possible implications for industries beyond finance.Lopez-Lira stated that ChatGPT’s ability to comprehend information intended for humans makes it highly likely that there will be return predictability, even if the market does not react in an ideal manner.METHOD OF STUDY AND FINDINGSThe researchers used a customized prompt to ask ChatGPT to assume the role of a financial expert with experience in stock recommendations and evaluate the impact of a given news headline on a company’s stock price in the short term.ChatGPT was asked to answer “YES” if the news is good for the stock price, “NO” if it is bad, or “UNKNOWN” if it is uncertain. The researchers then transformed ChatGPT’s recommendation into a score and run linear regressions of the next day’s returns on the ChatGPT score to test its predictive power.The prompt was specifically designed for financial analysis and asked ChatGPT to evaluate a given news headline and its potential impact on a company’s stock price in the short term.The researchers assumed that the headline contains sufficient information for an expert in the financial industry to assess its impact on the stock price reasonably. ChatGPT was then asked to explain its answer concisely in one sentence. The authors set a temperature of 0 to maximize the reproducibility of the results.The study shows that ChatGPT can provide recommendations for news headlines that are predictive of the next day’s stock returns. The ChatGPT score has a statistically significant relationship with the next day’s returns, indicating that the model can generate emergent abilities for financial analysis tasks.The researchers compared ChatGPT’s results to the sentiment score provided by a news curating company and found out that ChatGPT’s score is more predictive of the next day’s returns.The study’s conclusion asserts that ChatGPT exhibits superior performance compared to traditional sentiment analysis techniques provided by a prominent vendor.The research findings highlight the potential of large language models in financial economics and contribute to the expanding collection of literature on the applications of artificial intelligence and natural language processing in this field.In an interview with CNBC, Lopez-Lira stated that hedge funds had contacted him to gain further insights into his research. He also expressed his belief that ChatGPT’s capacity to anticipate stock price fluctuations might diminish in the future as more institutions begin to incorporate this technology.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":275,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":192234362450088,"gmtCreate":1687962674935,"gmtModify":1687962679363,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"SA is just coin flipping their opinion","listText":"SA is just coin flipping their opinion","text":"SA is just coin flipping their opinion","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/192234362450088","repostId":"2346859803","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2346859803","pubTimestamp":1687941173,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2346859803?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-28 16:32","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock: No AI Hype Here - Buy The Dip","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2346859803","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Goldman Sachs changed its buy rating to neutral regarding Tesla's shares. The investment bank also put out a $248 price target for the company's stock. Several days ago, Morgan Stanley's  Adam Jonas downgraded Tesla from a buy to a hold while raising his price target to $250 from $200. Barclay's Levy came out with a similar report, downgrading Tesla from buy to hold while growing the price target from $220 to $260. However, when were investment houses ever forward-looking or right about Tesla?I've been reporting on Tesla for about six years now. I proposed that Tesla could become a trillion-dollar company when its valuation was in the $30-50B range. I remember some people were outraged by my report, and Tesla remained one of the most shorted companies for years. Also, many analysts were skeptical of Tesla in the last few years, missing out on much of the spectacular gains over the previous decade. Therefore, while we're seeing some analysts pulling the plug on Tesla, the downgrade cycl","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p><strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has had quite a run-up since I discussed the bottom in the EV giant&#39;s share price in the $100-120 range. We&#39;ve seen Tesla&#39;s share price nearly triple, appreciating by approximately 180% since the stock price crashed to a bottom early this year. We&#39;ve recently seen a 15% correction in Tesla&#39;s share price as Goldman Sachs (GS) and other investment houses came out with &#34;downgrades&#34; after the six-month run-up in Tesla&#39;s stock.</p><p>Despite being overbought in the near term, Tesla&#39;s stock offers significant intermediate and long-term potential. While Tesla remains well-disguised as just an automaker, the EV leader offers enormous potential in energy generation and storage, robotics, AI, and more. Furthermore, Tesla should continue growing sales rapidly, and the company should continue optimizing operations and increasing profitability substantially as it moves forward. Due to its high level of profitability, significant profitability potential, and enormous growth prospects, Tesla deserves its premium valuation, and the company&#39;s stock price should appreciate considerably in the coming years.</p><h2>Technically - Buying The Dip</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/63097216b69d791a7737b3ca113fecef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"676\"/></p><p>TSLA (StockCharts.com)</p><p></p><p>Tesla recently became very overbought on a short-term basis. The stock came up too far too fast, the RSI hit 90, and other technical indicators became highly overextended. The stock price nearly tripled in about a six-month time frame. The AI hype pushed Tesla&#39;s share price to an extreme. Therefore, we&#39;re happy to see a welcomed/healthy pullback in Tesla shares. Moreover, the 50-day MA just moved above the 200-day MA, implying that Tesla&#39;s long-term technical image is strengthening. Thus, while we may see more transitory downside, anything in the $240-200 zone is a buying opportunity for Tesla&#39;s stock.</p><h2>When Were Investment Houses Positive On Tesla?</h2><p>Goldman Sachs changed its buy rating to neutral regarding Tesla&#39;s shares. The investment bank also put out a $248 price target for the company&#39;s stock. Several days ago, Morgan Stanley&#39;s (MS) Adam Jonas downgraded Tesla from a buy to a hold while raising his price target to $250 from $200. Barclay&#39;s Levy came out with a similar report, downgrading Tesla from buy to hold while growing the price target from $220 to $260. However, when were investment houses ever forward-looking or right about Tesla?</p><p>I&#39;ve been reporting on Tesla for about six years now. I proposed that Tesla could become a trillion-dollar company when its valuation was in the $30-50B range. I remember some people were outraged by my report, and Tesla remained one of the most shorted companies for years. Also, many analysts were skeptical of Tesla in the last few years, missing out on much of the spectacular gains over the previous decade. Therefore, while we&#39;re seeing some analysts pulling the plug on Tesla, the downgrade cycle is transitory, and Tesla&#39;s share price should continue rising long-term.</p><h3>Tesla - &#34;The Biggest AI Play Around&#34;</h3><p>ARK Invest&#39;s Cathie Wood called Tesla the &#34;biggest AI play around.&#34; The fund manager cited Tesla&#39;s immense potential in the driverless taxi arena, adding that the auto giant could see a massive run-up in its stock price to around $2,000 in the coming years. Wood also predicted that autonomous driving platforms will deliver<em> $10 trillion</em> in revenues from almost zero by 2038 globally. Tesla has an extensive AI and robotics program, including projects like the Tesla Bot, FSD chips, Dojo chips, and much more. Therefore, it&#39;s challenging to value Tesla like a traditional automaker, provided the company has enormous potential in the driverless taxi business, robotics, and AI.</p><h3>Tesla&#39;s Abnormal Profitability</h3><p>Tesla remains abnormally profitable for an auto company, with tremendous sales growth and profitability growth potential as we advance. Tesla generated a gross profit margin of about 23% in its latest quarter, a decline from the 27% gross profit margin the company saw last year. While the deterioration appears substantial, we should recognize that the lower profit margins occurred because of the temporary economic slowdown and Tesla&#39;s price-cutting measures to acquire market share from its competitors.</p><p>In its recent round of price cuts, Tesla brought the price of its mainstream Model 3 vehicle below $40,000 in the U.S. Americans can now save $2K on a standard Model 3 vehicle or receive $3K in savings when purchasing a Model Y. It is pretty simple for Tesla to make the significant price cuts as it remains highly profitable in any case. Conversely, it is far more difficult for newer EV companies to compete with Tesla. Companies like Lucid (LCID), Rivian (RIVN), NIO (NIO), and others are finding out just how complex the car game is. In addition to mass production, newer EV startups recognize the difficulty of dealing with a slower-than-expected economy and the challenges of competing with Tesla in the ultra-competitive EV race.</p><p><strong>Tesla - Profitability Metrics</strong></p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/59678f2efafd155aa96c1bc59578814d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"470\"/></p><p>Tesla profitability (macrotrends.net)</p><p></p><p>We&#39;ve seen a steady rise in Tesla&#39;s profitability metrics in recent years. As Tesla optimized the production of the Model 3 and other vehicles, its gross profit margin nearly doubled from a low of around 14% to a high of about 27% in early 2022. The recent decline in gross margin is likely due to transitory/challenging market conditions and competitive price cuts (not a Tesla-specific problem). Despite the transitory drop in Tesla&#39;s profitability, its gross margin should recover and return to its exceptionally high level of close to 30%. Moreover, let&#39;s discuss how profitable Tesla is compared with other automakers.</p><h3>Recent Gross Profit Margins</h3><ul><li><p>General Motors (GM): 13%</p></li><li><p>Ford (F): 15%</p></li><li><p>Toyota (TM): 17%</p></li><li><p>Volkswagen (OTCPK:VLKAF): 19%</p></li><li><p>Honda (HMC): 20%.</p></li></ul><p>We see &#34;normal&#34; gross profit margins of 10-20% for many auto stocks. However, we only see sustainable 20-30% gross margins from Tesla. Moreover, companies such as Lucid, Rivian, and other EV start-ups have yet to demonstrate the ability to mass-produce vehicles, never mind producing sustainable profits. Also, as Tesla continues expanding into robotics, chips, and AI, the company should provide substantial sales growth, becoming more profitable in the coming years.</p><h4>Tesla&#39;s Explosive Revenue-Generating Potential</h4><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/84679eef8745747aa4a64ead0aa9fbca\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"345\"/></p><p>Sales growth (SeekingAlpha.com )</p><p></p><p>Tesla should deliver approximately <em>$100B</em> in revenues this year. Moreover, consensus analysts&#39; figures imply Tesla should provide about <em>$130B</em> in revenues next year, roughly 30% YoY sales growth. Additionally, Tesla still has a long growth runway and should provide substantial 15-30% revenue growth in the coming years. Furthermore, current revenue and EPS growth projections may be lowballed, and Tesla could surpass the depressed forecasts as we advance.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ab4eb3cc6081b66957ad6c628d1cd9e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"197\"/></p><p>EPS Estimates (SeekingAlpha.com )</p><p></p><p>Consensus forecasts predict an EPS decline of about 15% this year. Next year&#39;s consensus figure is only $5.05, while the range around $3.70-8.30 is extensive. This dynamic implies that there is little consensus on what Tesla will earn in the coming years, and some analysts could be very wrong regarding their estimates. I expect Tesla to make closer to $4 in EPS this year and about $6-7 in 2024. Moreover, Tesla could earn around $8-10 in EPS in 2025. Therefore, while forward P/E ratios may appear elevated now, Tesla&#39;s valuation may be lower than it seems due to Tesla&#39;s remarkable earning ability.</p><p>If Tesla provides EPS of $6-7 next year, its stock is now trading at a forward P/E ratio of 34-40. Moreover, if Tesla declines to about $200, we may be looking at a stock trading at a forward P/E ratio below 30, making Tesla shares appear inexpensive again. Furthermore, if we consider 2025&#39;s earnings power, $8-10 in EPS implies the stock is now trading at about 24-30 2025&#39;s EPS. Likewise, if Tesla declined to the $200 buy-in level, its stock may sell at approximately 20-28 times 2025&#39;s EPS.</p><p><strong>Where Tesla&#39;s stock could be in future years:</strong></p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>The year</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2023</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2024</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2025</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2026</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2027</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2028</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2029</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2030</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Revenue Bs</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$105</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$155</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$215</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$275</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$350</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$438</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$538</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$657</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Revenue growth</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>29%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>48%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>39%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>27%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>25%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>23%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>22%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>EPS</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$4</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$10</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$14</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$19</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$25</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$31</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>EPS growth</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>25%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>80%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>44%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>40%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>36%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>32%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>25%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>22%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Forward P/E</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>34</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>35</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>34</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>33</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>32</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>30</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>27</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Stock price</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$240</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$350</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$480</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$627</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$800</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$930</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$1,065</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$1,200</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Click to enlarge</p><p><em>Source: The Financial Prophet.</em></p><h2>Tesla Risks</h2><p>A slowdown in demand, increased competition, supply issues, decreased growth, issues with regulators and foreign governments, and other variables are all risks we should consider before betting on Tesla to move higher. Serious concerns could cause Tesla&#39;s valuation to lose altitude, compress its multiple, and the company&#39;s share price could even head in reverse if any serious issues should arise. Therefore, one should consider these and other risks carefully before committing any capital to a Tesla investment.</p><p>Editor&#39;s Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. Please be aware of the risks associated with these stocks.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock: No AI Hype Here - Buy The Dip</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock: No AI Hype Here - Buy The Dip\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-06-28 16:32 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4613870-tesla-stock-no-ai-hype-here-buy-the-dip><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has had quite a run-up since I discussed the bottom in the EV giant's share price in the $100-120 range. We've seen Tesla's share price nearly triple, appreciating by ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4613870-tesla-stock-no-ai-hype-here-buy-the-dip\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4511":"特斯拉概念","IE00BZ1G4Q59.USD":"LEGG MASON CLEARBRIDGE US EQUITY SUSTAINABILITY LEADER \"A\"(USD) INC (A)","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU0106831901.USD":"贝莱德世界金融基金A2","BK4127":"投资银行业与经纪业","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","LU0070302665.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","NIO.SI":"蔚来","LU0098860793.USD":"FRANKLIN INCOME \"A\" INC","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","F":"福特汽车","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","BK4531":"中概回港概念","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU0130103400.USD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity RA USD","09866":"蔚来-SW","LU0052750758.USD":"富兰克林中国基金A Acc","LU1074936037.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Value A (acc) SGD","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","RIVN":"Rivian Automotive, Inc.","TM":"丰田汽车","LU1201861165.SGD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity PA SGD","GS":"高盛","BK4566":"资本集团","BK4509":"腾讯概念","BK4581":"高盛持仓","NIO":"蔚来","EVS.SI":"MSCI China Electric Vehicles and Future Mobility ETF-NikkoAM","GM":"通用汽车","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","BK4526":"热门中概股","BK4588":"碎股","LU0971096721.USD":"富达环球金融服务 A","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","BK4552":"Archegos爆仓风波概念","MS":"摩根士丹利","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0708995583.HKD":"TEMPLETON CHINA \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4561":"索罗斯持仓","HMC":"本田汽车","LCID":"Lucid Group Inc","03160":"华夏日股对冲","BK4504":"桥水持仓"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4613870-tesla-stock-no-ai-hype-here-buy-the-dip","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2346859803","content_text":"Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has had quite a run-up since I discussed the bottom in the EV giant's share price in the $100-120 range. We've seen Tesla's share price nearly triple, appreciating by approximately 180% since the stock price crashed to a bottom early this year. We've recently seen a 15% correction in Tesla's share price as Goldman Sachs (GS) and other investment houses came out with \"downgrades\" after the six-month run-up in Tesla's stock.Despite being overbought in the near term, Tesla's stock offers significant intermediate and long-term potential. While Tesla remains well-disguised as just an automaker, the EV leader offers enormous potential in energy generation and storage, robotics, AI, and more. Furthermore, Tesla should continue growing sales rapidly, and the company should continue optimizing operations and increasing profitability substantially as it moves forward. Due to its high level of profitability, significant profitability potential, and enormous growth prospects, Tesla deserves its premium valuation, and the company's stock price should appreciate considerably in the coming years.Technically - Buying The DipTSLA (StockCharts.com)Tesla recently became very overbought on a short-term basis. The stock came up too far too fast, the RSI hit 90, and other technical indicators became highly overextended. The stock price nearly tripled in about a six-month time frame. The AI hype pushed Tesla's share price to an extreme. Therefore, we're happy to see a welcomed/healthy pullback in Tesla shares. Moreover, the 50-day MA just moved above the 200-day MA, implying that Tesla's long-term technical image is strengthening. Thus, while we may see more transitory downside, anything in the $240-200 zone is a buying opportunity for Tesla's stock.When Were Investment Houses Positive On Tesla?Goldman Sachs changed its buy rating to neutral regarding Tesla's shares. The investment bank also put out a $248 price target for the company's stock. Several days ago, Morgan Stanley's (MS) Adam Jonas downgraded Tesla from a buy to a hold while raising his price target to $250 from $200. Barclay's Levy came out with a similar report, downgrading Tesla from buy to hold while growing the price target from $220 to $260. However, when were investment houses ever forward-looking or right about Tesla?I've been reporting on Tesla for about six years now. I proposed that Tesla could become a trillion-dollar company when its valuation was in the $30-50B range. I remember some people were outraged by my report, and Tesla remained one of the most shorted companies for years. Also, many analysts were skeptical of Tesla in the last few years, missing out on much of the spectacular gains over the previous decade. Therefore, while we're seeing some analysts pulling the plug on Tesla, the downgrade cycle is transitory, and Tesla's share price should continue rising long-term.Tesla - \"The Biggest AI Play Around\"ARK Invest's Cathie Wood called Tesla the \"biggest AI play around.\" The fund manager cited Tesla's immense potential in the driverless taxi arena, adding that the auto giant could see a massive run-up in its stock price to around $2,000 in the coming years. Wood also predicted that autonomous driving platforms will deliver $10 trillion in revenues from almost zero by 2038 globally. Tesla has an extensive AI and robotics program, including projects like the Tesla Bot, FSD chips, Dojo chips, and much more. Therefore, it's challenging to value Tesla like a traditional automaker, provided the company has enormous potential in the driverless taxi business, robotics, and AI.Tesla's Abnormal ProfitabilityTesla remains abnormally profitable for an auto company, with tremendous sales growth and profitability growth potential as we advance. Tesla generated a gross profit margin of about 23% in its latest quarter, a decline from the 27% gross profit margin the company saw last year. While the deterioration appears substantial, we should recognize that the lower profit margins occurred because of the temporary economic slowdown and Tesla's price-cutting measures to acquire market share from its competitors.In its recent round of price cuts, Tesla brought the price of its mainstream Model 3 vehicle below $40,000 in the U.S. Americans can now save $2K on a standard Model 3 vehicle or receive $3K in savings when purchasing a Model Y. It is pretty simple for Tesla to make the significant price cuts as it remains highly profitable in any case. Conversely, it is far more difficult for newer EV companies to compete with Tesla. Companies like Lucid (LCID), Rivian (RIVN), NIO (NIO), and others are finding out just how complex the car game is. In addition to mass production, newer EV startups recognize the difficulty of dealing with a slower-than-expected economy and the challenges of competing with Tesla in the ultra-competitive EV race.Tesla - Profitability MetricsTesla profitability (macrotrends.net)We've seen a steady rise in Tesla's profitability metrics in recent years. As Tesla optimized the production of the Model 3 and other vehicles, its gross profit margin nearly doubled from a low of around 14% to a high of about 27% in early 2022. The recent decline in gross margin is likely due to transitory/challenging market conditions and competitive price cuts (not a Tesla-specific problem). Despite the transitory drop in Tesla's profitability, its gross margin should recover and return to its exceptionally high level of close to 30%. Moreover, let's discuss how profitable Tesla is compared with other automakers.Recent Gross Profit MarginsGeneral Motors (GM): 13%Ford (F): 15%Toyota (TM): 17%Volkswagen (OTCPK:VLKAF): 19%Honda (HMC): 20%.We see \"normal\" gross profit margins of 10-20% for many auto stocks. However, we only see sustainable 20-30% gross margins from Tesla. Moreover, companies such as Lucid, Rivian, and other EV start-ups have yet to demonstrate the ability to mass-produce vehicles, never mind producing sustainable profits. Also, as Tesla continues expanding into robotics, chips, and AI, the company should provide substantial sales growth, becoming more profitable in the coming years.Tesla's Explosive Revenue-Generating PotentialSales growth (SeekingAlpha.com )Tesla should deliver approximately $100B in revenues this year. Moreover, consensus analysts' figures imply Tesla should provide about $130B in revenues next year, roughly 30% YoY sales growth. Additionally, Tesla still has a long growth runway and should provide substantial 15-30% revenue growth in the coming years. Furthermore, current revenue and EPS growth projections may be lowballed, and Tesla could surpass the depressed forecasts as we advance.EPS Estimates (SeekingAlpha.com )Consensus forecasts predict an EPS decline of about 15% this year. Next year's consensus figure is only $5.05, while the range around $3.70-8.30 is extensive. This dynamic implies that there is little consensus on what Tesla will earn in the coming years, and some analysts could be very wrong regarding their estimates. I expect Tesla to make closer to $4 in EPS this year and about $6-7 in 2024. Moreover, Tesla could earn around $8-10 in EPS in 2025. Therefore, while forward P/E ratios may appear elevated now, Tesla's valuation may be lower than it seems due to Tesla's remarkable earning ability.If Tesla provides EPS of $6-7 next year, its stock is now trading at a forward P/E ratio of 34-40. Moreover, if Tesla declines to about $200, we may be looking at a stock trading at a forward P/E ratio below 30, making Tesla shares appear inexpensive again. Furthermore, if we consider 2025's earnings power, $8-10 in EPS implies the stock is now trading at about 24-30 2025's EPS. Likewise, if Tesla declined to the $200 buy-in level, its stock may sell at approximately 20-28 times 2025's EPS.Where Tesla's stock could be in future years:The year20232024202520262027202820292030Revenue Bs$105$155$215$275$350$438$538$657Revenue growth29%48%39%28%27%25%23%22%EPS$4$7$10$14$19$25$31$38EPS growth25%80%44%40%36%32%25%22%Forward P/E3435343332302827Stock price$240$350$480$627$800$930$1,065$1,200Click to enlargeSource: The Financial Prophet.Tesla RisksA slowdown in demand, increased competition, supply issues, decreased growth, issues with regulators and foreign governments, and other variables are all risks we should consider before betting on Tesla to move higher. Serious concerns could cause Tesla's valuation to lose altitude, compress its multiple, and the company's share price could even head in reverse if any serious issues should arise. Therefore, one should consider these and other risks carefully before committing any capital to a Tesla investment.Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. Please be aware of the risks associated with these stocks.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":386,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3569809505691000","authorId":"3569809505691000","name":"breAkdaWn","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4c3676c14de9bfcd6f45bcf7ba4ddb6c","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3569809505691000","authorIdStr":"3569809505691000"},"content":"yeah they all have their own agenda , influence us.","text":"yeah they all have their own agenda , influence us.","html":"yeah they all have their own agenda , influence us."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":230344766640416,"gmtCreate":1697278411559,"gmtModify":1697278417461,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"woke up on the bullish side of the bed for today","listText":"woke up on the bullish side of the bed for today","text":"woke up on the bullish side of the bed for today","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/230344766640416","repostId":"2375871947","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2375871947","pubTimestamp":1697269345,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2375871947?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-10-14 15:42","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: My Long-Term Bull Thesis (Rating Upgrade)","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2375871947","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Tesla, Inc. produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems.Tesla has already established itself as a premier EV producer and is well-positioned to achieve additio","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla, Inc. produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems.</p></li><li><p>Tesla has already established itself as a premier EV producer and is well-positioned to achieve additional moats in its ancillary industries.</p></li><li><p>They have a history of achieving attractive returns. I believe they will become a long-term compounder.</p></li><li><p>After reviewing their present financials and valuation, I currently rate Tesla stock a Buy.</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_284327236\">Thesis</h2><p>A few days ago, I was in a discussion with a friend about his recent <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla, Inc.</a> stock acquisition and told him I thought he would likely be quite happy with his purchase a decade from now. When he asked me why, I gave him a brief on two high margin revenue streams that Tesla is in the process of developing. I am detailing the points I made to him in this article.</p><p>As much as I am quite bullish on their long-term prospects, when I wrote my last article on Tesla in April, I was hesitant to place a buy rating because of a combination of their margin contraction caused by price drops and our inverted yield curve. However, with the UAW strike providing significant problems for the Big Three, Tesla&#39;s short and medium term prospects have improved significantly. After reviewing their financials and present valuation, I currently rate TSLA as a Buy.</p><h2 id=\"id_1523361003\">Company Background</h2><p>Tesla produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems. They are a leading developer of self-driving software, and have expanded into machine learning with the development of their own supercomputer called Dojo. They maintain operations in the United States, China, and internationally. The company was founded in 2003 and and is currently headquartered in Austin, Texas.</p><p>Tesla maintains an Automotive segment, and an Energy Generation and Storage segment. Their Automotive segment offers electric vehicles and ancillary products and services. This segment includes their network of Superchargers and service locations, in-app upgrades and mobile services, financing and leasing services, and warranties and extended service plans.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f11caf4cecf2747046aec98ae4c6af65\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"714\"/></p><p>TSLA Automotive Market Share (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 9)</p><p>Their Energy Generation and Storage segment provides photovoltaic generation, storage products, and related services. It maintains a website as well as stores and galleries, and also reaches customers through a network of channel partners. They offer various financing options to their solar customers.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/805bb136adcb87dd8973826d009888a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"668\"/></p><p>TSLA Energy Storage And Services (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)</p><h2 id=\"id_2603697569\">Long-Term Trends</h2><p>The global electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;) market is projected to have a CAGR of 22.1% until 2030. The global autonomous vehicle market is projected to have a CAGR of 35% through 2032. The global electric vehicle charging station market is projected to have a CAGR of 37.7% until 2033. The energy storage market is projected to have a CAGR of 14.31% through 2028. The global photovoltaic market is projected have a CAGR of 10.1% during the forecast period.</p><h2 id=\"id_1091166465\">The Future Of Self-Driving</h2><p>Tesla is in the process of improving its capabilities on multiple fronts. They have been working toward full self-driving (&#34;FSD&#34;) for many years. As part of this effort, they announced Dojo at their AI Day event on August 19, 2021.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/24792668f6b7252a5e3ff7db263f25fe\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"643\"/></p><p>TSLA Dojo Projections (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)</p><p>As progress continues on establishing superior reliability and safety capabilities, it will eventually become clear that autonomous vehicles are safer than human drivers. Once a certain statistical threshold has been met, insurance companies are going to be willing to offer lower rates to drivers who use proven autonomous driving software.</p><p>What I believe frequently gets overlooked is the pressure this will place on entities who operate large fleets of vehicles. They will be financially incentivized to transition to autonomous capable vehicles. While most of the auto industry has been working toward their own versions of autonomous driving, Tesla has a capability lead on most of them. If insurance companies are willing to offer users of Tesla&#39;s software better rates, this will incentivize Tesla&#39;s competition to manufacture vehicles which are capable of running a variety of software packages.</p><p>Their Autopilot has access to more raw data than any of their competitors. This gives them a significant lead on reaching full capability more quickly than any other autonomous driving software provider.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7e4a0ee3836625fe05862be235be6d0d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"411\"/></p><p>TSLA Guidance Autopilot (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)</p><p>We could witness an era where it&#39;s common for people to buy a new Ford (F), General Motors (GM), or Stellantis (STLA) vehicle equipped with Tesla&#39;s autonomous driving software. This may also produce an industry of third party entities which convert vehicles to be capable of using Tesla&#39;s software. Eventually, any capability gap should close for those of their competitors who continue developing their own software packages, so this period may only last a few years. However, the trend of vehicles being manufactured with multi-software capability may continue even after the gap closes. Being able to purchase a vehicle capable of using a variety of self-driving software packages may eventually become standard.</p><p>While I am not clear as to when this threshold will be crossed. The idea that Tesla might find themselves with a much larger market for their software than their own vehicles is extremely appealing. The pressure would have to be significant for the other auto manufacturers to make the switch. If the discounts the insurance companies are handing out are not deep enough, we may not see an adoption or we may only experience a partial adoption.</p><h2 id=\"id_766904302\">The Future Of Energy Storage</h2><p>Tesla is well positioned to benefit from ongoing changes in our energy grid. The Levelized Cost of Electricity is the most dominant factor at play when examining long-term energy infrastructure trends.</p><p>When photovoltaics reached the status of our cheapest source of electricity several years ago, additional renewable capacity seems inevitable. However, the adoption of intermittent sources warps the daily supply and demand curve for wholesale electricity. This supply and demand imbalance produced by solar is known as the Duck Curve. Excessive overproduction from solar will damage portions of the grid. This problem is severe enough that it is already common to disconnect portions of commercial scale capacity during the middle of the day. I went into further detail about how this is affecting long-term trends related to our grid in my recent article about <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FLC.AU\">Fluence</a> Energy.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39c147776dcc731a995ce851080e42f9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"380\"/></p><p>The Duck Curve (Brad Bouillon; Stanford University)</p><p>Tesla sits in a unique situation where they are involved in both grid scale storage as well as machine learning and artificial intelligence. In places where a portion of the grid is supplied by photovoltaics, storage providers are able to collect free or almost-free electricity in the middle of the day while the grid is overproducing. This electricity can later be sold back into the market in the evening when they are at their highest.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a4ac2ebf908cc8379c189eabbedc7ca5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"345\"/></p><p>Wholesale California Electricity Prices Over 24 Hrs. On A Spring Day (Charles W. Forsberg; ResearchGate, May 2020)</p><p>With the electricity collected at no cost, or almost no cost, the margins for such an operation are a function of the sheer volume one can manage divided by the maintenance costs for the batteries. This means that storage providers are incentivized to gain access to as much overproduction as possible. Over the next several decades, I believe the electricity arbitrage industry has the potential to scale with the mass adoption of solar and will become incredibly lucrative. Although it&#39;s still far too early to tell how this situation will develop, Tesla is currently well positioned to become a major player in this emerging industry.</p><p>Their Autobidder continues to find opportunities in Australia, Texas, California, and the UK. The company cites the clear advantages of growing their footprint, as each facility they build is expected to produce revenue for about 20 years.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/28f923519b920c1ce932fc27fda75a07\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"309\"/></p><p>TSLA Autobidder Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)</p><p>In 2022, their energy generation and storage segment reached 5.4% of total revenues, representing a 90% YoY increase to $1.310 billion, while the cost of revenues stands at $1.151 billion. This gives it a gross margin of 9.26%. According to a September 2023 article, Autobidder has made over $330 million in trading revenues since inception.</p><h2 id=\"id_1793167372\">Guidance</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s most recent earnings call spoke of several long-term projects they have in the works. They covered developments with the Cybertruck, which they plan to launch later this year, and also mentioned continued efforts toward developing a robotaxi. They are pleased about the adoption of the North American Charging Standard. Overall, things have been going well for them in recent months.</p><p>Their forward looking statements indicate that they expect Q3 to have lower revenue due to scheduled upgrades causing down-time through the summer months.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6b8013f2708a14570db43c0501102e3\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"186\"/></p><p>TSLA Q3 Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)</p><h2 id=\"id_1301781525\">Annual Financials</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s annual revenue has been growing at an impressive rate. In 2013 they had an annual revenue of $2,013.5M. By 2022, that had grown to $81,462M. This represents a total increase of 3945.8% at an average annual rate of 438.4%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bcc482b761f902e3e7c254040e9c8597\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Revenue (By Author)</p><p>Their annual margins have been improving over the last several years. As of the most recent annual report, gross margins were 25.60%, EBITDA margins were 21.41%, operating margins were 16.81%, and net margins were 15.41%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2ea2cc4873205f6048d485d7c8c03743\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Margins (By Author)</p><p>Like many growing companies, Tesla has been diluting to help fund expansion. Total common shares outstanding was at 1,846.4M in 2013; by the end of 2022 that rose to 3,164M. This represents a 71.4% rise in share count, which comes out to an average annual rate of 7.93%. Over that same time period, operating income rose from -$61.3M to $13,692M. Because it has come with significant improvements to income, I view this dilution as accretive.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9ae842b30302928f4ba47f1df6ca3b48\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)</p><p>Their debt situation has been improving over the last several years. As of the 2022 annual report, they had $106M in net interest expense, total debt was $5,748M, and long-term debt was $1,029M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cf2a5f6f85100d6fad8fbc763ee28c46\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"369\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Debt (By Author)</p><p>As of this most recent annual report, cash and equivalents was $16,253M, operating income was $13,692M, EBITDA was $17,439M, net income was $12,556M, unlevered free cash flow was $4,327.5M, and levered free cash flow was $4,208.1M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4749ab51b3930ace699aa8fdbc9d3042\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"366\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Cash Flow (By Author)</p><p>Their total equity has been growing quite quickly.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7668562728d6b2189d0ea9b36320c656\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"364\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Total Equity (By Author)</p><p>Annual returns have also been improving. As of the most recent annual report ROIC was 24.31%, ROCE was 17.64%, and ROE was at 27.36%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5583fd99045d634b1d656076e1699c03\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Annual Returns (By Author)</p><h2 id=\"id_1822369943\">Quarterly Financials</h2><p>Their quarterly financials are showing significant revenue growth over the last two years. Eight quarters ago Tesla had a quarterly revenue of $11,958M. Four quarters ago that had grown to $16,934M. By this most recent quarter that had grown to $24,927M. This represents a total two-year rise of 108.4% at an average quarterly rate of 13.6%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/42d5dee77bc7ebd5bff77ffdbff2b891\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Revenue (By Author)</p><p>Their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters. As of the most recent quarter gross margins were 18.19%, EBITDA margins were 14.25%, operating margins were 9.62%, and net margins were at 10.84%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6a9552bd4abea5d4eaf5bab00ec6cbd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Margins (By Author)</p><p>Their dilution rate appears to have dropped in more recent quarters. The sum of their last eight quarters of dilution comes to 7.32%; over the last four quarters this has dropped to 1.63%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/229782b5a1c2946139d72aed133ad813\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)</p><p>Their debt situation is improving. This most recent quarter, Tesla had $210M in net interest expense, total debt was at $5811M, and long-term debt was at $504M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/429f4a8a103bf7e3ca31bf52ce141526\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"371\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Debt (By Author)</p><p>Their quarterly cash flow is inconsistent. As of the most recent earnings report, cash and equivalents were $15,296M, quarterly operating income was $2,399M, EBITDA was $3553M, net income was $2,703M, unlevered free cash flow was $894.4M, and levered free cash flow was $876.9M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/db4fae5af9d282f20ff6be83fc6eba91\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"371\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Cash Flow (By Author)</p><p>When viewed on a quarterly basis, their total equity continues to rise.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39348a9bbb1a278da180df079161da78\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"372\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Total Equity (By Author)</p><p>Their returns are trending in a similar pattern with their margins. As of the most recent earnings report ROIC was 4.66%, ROCE was 2.81%, and ROE was 5.18%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f6b3a5e5973cf51f1e4bb2acfeef013b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"370\"/></p><p>TSLA Quarterly Returns (By Author)</p><h2 id=\"id_3002784039\">Valuation</h2><p>As of October 11th, 2023, Tesla had a market capitalization of $836.73B and traded for $262.99 per share. They do not pay a dividend, so using their forward P/E of 91.03x, and their EPS Long-Term CAGR of 19.72%, I calculated a PEGY of 4.616x and an Inverted PEGY of 0.2166x. As the PEGY value is well above 1, this implies the company is presently significantly overvalued.</p><p>However, TSLA has a history of trading at elevated valuations. They are currently trading with an EV/EBITDA of 48.73x. When viewing their EV/EBITDA over the last 5 years, it&#39;s clear that its present valuation is historically not as overvalued as it has reached in the past.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d884e507e04fa1ef07ee4d2ca9e62583\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"230\"/></p><p>TSLA 5 Year EV/EBITDA (Seeking Alpha)</p><h2 id=\"id_3723830278\">Risks</h2><p>Tesla faces a large number of competitors. A majority of the already established auto manufacturers on the planet are developing or already producing their own EV&#39;s and alternative fuel vehicles. This developing industry has also attracted a significant number of speculative startups. Because of Tesla&#39;s first mover advantage, and the time it will take to develop a viable product from nothing, I expect that the effects of this increasing competitive pressure will come on gradually.</p><p>Autonomous driving may take longer to reach full maturity than they expect. Progress is expected to continue on its logistic growth curve, with most of the easy breakthroughs having already been made. The company already has a viable product, but they need a huge amount of additional data and time to fine tune it and make further safety and reliability improvements. It will likely be difficult to tell when they have actually crossed above the threshold where their FSD software can be called &#34;fully mature.&#34;</p><p>As always with innovators, Tesla runs the risk of overspending to stay relevant. Developing their own hardware and software for machine learning may end up costing more than they expect, or not be as profitable as they project. The push to develop A.I. is spawning development across the industry, and Tesla is merely one of many companies working on their own projects. While I believe the decision to move into machine learning was good for the long-term health of the company, it&#39;s always possible the additional cost of joining the first movers will not be worth the benefits.</p><h2 id=\"id_2771406227\">Catalysts</h2><p>Tesla faces several catalysts, most of which are not near term. Tesla has cut prices several times earlier this year. This should produce additional demand and help them capture market share. Tesla has been normalizing electric vehicle use; at some point we will cross the threshold where it&#39;s more normal culturally to drive an electric or alternative fuel vehicle than a gasoline or diesel.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s overall engineering quality is extremely high. Tesla is several generations into EV development and their design philosophy has them continuously making performance improvements. For a specific example of what I am referencing, YouTube has videos of Sandy Munro comparing the thermal systems of the Mach-E and the Model Y. They are eye-opening.</p><p>As stated above, I believe demand for their FSD software will increase once the insurance providers are willing to offer discounts. Organizations which maintain fleets of vehicles will have to justify not transitioning to the cheaper option. This is likely to affect everyone from car rental companies and taxi services, to government employees and utility vehicles. Demand for FSD may also spur their competition into producing vehicles which are capable of using Tesla&#39;s driverless software.</p><p>Tesla is joining several others in the development of Iron-Air batteries. These types of batteries are significantly cheaper than the Li-ion we are all accustomed to. Tesla already operates a grid scale energy storage facility in Texas. The dramatic cost savings of Iron-Air batteries makes them a disruptive technology. Our electric grid currently requires a significant contribution from base load providers. As we increase its storage capacity, I believe the bargaining power the base load providers currently have will diminish as most of the negotiating power will shift to the storage providers.</p><p>Also, storage providers will experience sustained tailwinds from the continued adoption of solar as they profit from daily arbitrage opportunities. Because of their dramatically lower cost of production, the adoption of iron-air batteries should both lower cost of expansion and improve margins for their energy storage division.</p><p>Tesla achieves rather high margins for a manufacturer. As producers in other industries realize that the reason Tesla is achieving superior margins and return on capital is due to their preference for automated manufacturing, the demand for Tesla-style facilities should rise. The company could eventually open a subsidiary which establishes automated manufacturing facilities for other companies.</p><h2 id=\"id_2355894248\">Conclusions</h2><p>Normally, I refuse to place buy ratings on any company this overvalued. However, I believe the current UAW strike will provide continued tailwinds for Tesla, Inc.&#39;s share price as it continues. Add to this the fact that they have a history of achieving unreasonably high valuations and its present valuation becomes less of a concern. This is one of the few occasions where I am willing to hand out a buy rating on a ticker when I am unable to clearly see that it&#39;s trading below its intrinsic value. I believe Tesla has unrecognized long-term growth potential, so it potentially may have a hidden margin of safety.</p><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. appears to be an extremely attractive investment because of their culture of adaptation and innovation. While I cannot guarantee that their current endeavors will lead to future moats, they have already established themselves as a premier EV producer and have the potential to find themselves with multiple high margin revenue streams. Although their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters, they have proven they are capable of producing attractive returns.</p><p>I believe Tesla stock is likely to become the long-term compounder that its present investors hope it will be. So even if buying at today&#39;s prices ends up being a lackluster entry in the short or medium term, long-term Tesla, Inc. shareholders are unlikely to be punished for it.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: My Long-Term Bull Thesis (Rating Upgrade)</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: My Long-Term Bull Thesis (Rating Upgrade)\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-10-14 15:42 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4640677-tesla-my-long-term-bull-thesis-rating-upgrade><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems.Tesla has already established itself as a premier EV producer and is well-positioned to achieve ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4640677-tesla-my-long-term-bull-thesis-rating-upgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4640677-tesla-my-long-term-bull-thesis-rating-upgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2375871947","content_text":"Tesla, Inc. produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems.Tesla has already established itself as a premier EV producer and is well-positioned to achieve additional moats in its ancillary industries.They have a history of achieving attractive returns. I believe they will become a long-term compounder.After reviewing their present financials and valuation, I currently rate Tesla stock a Buy.ThesisA few days ago, I was in a discussion with a friend about his recent Tesla, Inc. stock acquisition and told him I thought he would likely be quite happy with his purchase a decade from now. When he asked me why, I gave him a brief on two high margin revenue streams that Tesla is in the process of developing. I am detailing the points I made to him in this article.As much as I am quite bullish on their long-term prospects, when I wrote my last article on Tesla in April, I was hesitant to place a buy rating because of a combination of their margin contraction caused by price drops and our inverted yield curve. However, with the UAW strike providing significant problems for the Big Three, Tesla's short and medium term prospects have improved significantly. After reviewing their financials and present valuation, I currently rate TSLA as a Buy.Company BackgroundTesla produces electric vehicles, solar panels and roof tiles, and battery storage systems. They are a leading developer of self-driving software, and have expanded into machine learning with the development of their own supercomputer called Dojo. They maintain operations in the United States, China, and internationally. The company was founded in 2003 and and is currently headquartered in Austin, Texas.Tesla maintains an Automotive segment, and an Energy Generation and Storage segment. Their Automotive segment offers electric vehicles and ancillary products and services. This segment includes their network of Superchargers and service locations, in-app upgrades and mobile services, financing and leasing services, and warranties and extended service plans.TSLA Automotive Market Share (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 9)Their Energy Generation and Storage segment provides photovoltaic generation, storage products, and related services. It maintains a website as well as stores and galleries, and also reaches customers through a network of channel partners. They offer various financing options to their solar customers.TSLA Energy Storage And Services (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)Long-Term TrendsThe global electric vehicle (\"EV\") market is projected to have a CAGR of 22.1% until 2030. The global autonomous vehicle market is projected to have a CAGR of 35% through 2032. The global electric vehicle charging station market is projected to have a CAGR of 37.7% until 2033. The energy storage market is projected to have a CAGR of 14.31% through 2028. The global photovoltaic market is projected have a CAGR of 10.1% during the forecast period.The Future Of Self-DrivingTesla is in the process of improving its capabilities on multiple fronts. They have been working toward full self-driving (\"FSD\") for many years. As part of this effort, they announced Dojo at their AI Day event on August 19, 2021.TSLA Dojo Projections (Shareholder Deck, Q2 2023, page 8)As progress continues on establishing superior reliability and safety capabilities, it will eventually become clear that autonomous vehicles are safer than human drivers. Once a certain statistical threshold has been met, insurance companies are going to be willing to offer lower rates to drivers who use proven autonomous driving software.What I believe frequently gets overlooked is the pressure this will place on entities who operate large fleets of vehicles. They will be financially incentivized to transition to autonomous capable vehicles. While most of the auto industry has been working toward their own versions of autonomous driving, Tesla has a capability lead on most of them. If insurance companies are willing to offer users of Tesla's software better rates, this will incentivize Tesla's competition to manufacture vehicles which are capable of running a variety of software packages.Their Autopilot has access to more raw data than any of their competitors. This gives them a significant lead on reaching full capability more quickly than any other autonomous driving software provider.TSLA Guidance Autopilot (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)We could witness an era where it's common for people to buy a new Ford (F), General Motors (GM), or Stellantis (STLA) vehicle equipped with Tesla's autonomous driving software. This may also produce an industry of third party entities which convert vehicles to be capable of using Tesla's software. Eventually, any capability gap should close for those of their competitors who continue developing their own software packages, so this period may only last a few years. However, the trend of vehicles being manufactured with multi-software capability may continue even after the gap closes. Being able to purchase a vehicle capable of using a variety of self-driving software packages may eventually become standard.While I am not clear as to when this threshold will be crossed. The idea that Tesla might find themselves with a much larger market for their software than their own vehicles is extremely appealing. The pressure would have to be significant for the other auto manufacturers to make the switch. If the discounts the insurance companies are handing out are not deep enough, we may not see an adoption or we may only experience a partial adoption.The Future Of Energy StorageTesla is well positioned to benefit from ongoing changes in our energy grid. The Levelized Cost of Electricity is the most dominant factor at play when examining long-term energy infrastructure trends.When photovoltaics reached the status of our cheapest source of electricity several years ago, additional renewable capacity seems inevitable. However, the adoption of intermittent sources warps the daily supply and demand curve for wholesale electricity. This supply and demand imbalance produced by solar is known as the Duck Curve. Excessive overproduction from solar will damage portions of the grid. This problem is severe enough that it is already common to disconnect portions of commercial scale capacity during the middle of the day. I went into further detail about how this is affecting long-term trends related to our grid in my recent article about Fluence Energy.The Duck Curve (Brad Bouillon; Stanford University)Tesla sits in a unique situation where they are involved in both grid scale storage as well as machine learning and artificial intelligence. In places where a portion of the grid is supplied by photovoltaics, storage providers are able to collect free or almost-free electricity in the middle of the day while the grid is overproducing. This electricity can later be sold back into the market in the evening when they are at their highest.Wholesale California Electricity Prices Over 24 Hrs. On A Spring Day (Charles W. Forsberg; ResearchGate, May 2020)With the electricity collected at no cost, or almost no cost, the margins for such an operation are a function of the sheer volume one can manage divided by the maintenance costs for the batteries. This means that storage providers are incentivized to gain access to as much overproduction as possible. Over the next several decades, I believe the electricity arbitrage industry has the potential to scale with the mass adoption of solar and will become incredibly lucrative. Although it's still far too early to tell how this situation will develop, Tesla is currently well positioned to become a major player in this emerging industry.Their Autobidder continues to find opportunities in Australia, Texas, California, and the UK. The company cites the clear advantages of growing their footprint, as each facility they build is expected to produce revenue for about 20 years.TSLA Autobidder Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)In 2022, their energy generation and storage segment reached 5.4% of total revenues, representing a 90% YoY increase to $1.310 billion, while the cost of revenues stands at $1.151 billion. This gives it a gross margin of 9.26%. According to a September 2023 article, Autobidder has made over $330 million in trading revenues since inception.GuidanceTesla's most recent earnings call spoke of several long-term projects they have in the works. They covered developments with the Cybertruck, which they plan to launch later this year, and also mentioned continued efforts toward developing a robotaxi. They are pleased about the adoption of the North American Charging Standard. Overall, things have been going well for them in recent months.Their forward looking statements indicate that they expect Q3 to have lower revenue due to scheduled upgrades causing down-time through the summer months.TSLA Q3 Guidance (Earnings Call Transcript, Q2 2023)Annual FinancialsTesla's annual revenue has been growing at an impressive rate. In 2013 they had an annual revenue of $2,013.5M. By 2022, that had grown to $81,462M. This represents a total increase of 3945.8% at an average annual rate of 438.4%.TSLA Annual Revenue (By Author)Their annual margins have been improving over the last several years. As of the most recent annual report, gross margins were 25.60%, EBITDA margins were 21.41%, operating margins were 16.81%, and net margins were 15.41%.TSLA Annual Margins (By Author)Like many growing companies, Tesla has been diluting to help fund expansion. Total common shares outstanding was at 1,846.4M in 2013; by the end of 2022 that rose to 3,164M. This represents a 71.4% rise in share count, which comes out to an average annual rate of 7.93%. Over that same time period, operating income rose from -$61.3M to $13,692M. Because it has come with significant improvements to income, I view this dilution as accretive.TSLA Annual Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)Their debt situation has been improving over the last several years. As of the 2022 annual report, they had $106M in net interest expense, total debt was $5,748M, and long-term debt was $1,029M.TSLA Annual Debt (By Author)As of this most recent annual report, cash and equivalents was $16,253M, operating income was $13,692M, EBITDA was $17,439M, net income was $12,556M, unlevered free cash flow was $4,327.5M, and levered free cash flow was $4,208.1M.TSLA Annual Cash Flow (By Author)Their total equity has been growing quite quickly.TSLA Annual Total Equity (By Author)Annual returns have also been improving. As of the most recent annual report ROIC was 24.31%, ROCE was 17.64%, and ROE was at 27.36%.TSLA Annual Returns (By Author)Quarterly FinancialsTheir quarterly financials are showing significant revenue growth over the last two years. Eight quarters ago Tesla had a quarterly revenue of $11,958M. Four quarters ago that had grown to $16,934M. By this most recent quarter that had grown to $24,927M. This represents a total two-year rise of 108.4% at an average quarterly rate of 13.6%.TSLA Quarterly Revenue (By Author)Their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters. As of the most recent quarter gross margins were 18.19%, EBITDA margins were 14.25%, operating margins were 9.62%, and net margins were at 10.84%.TSLA Quarterly Margins (By Author)Their dilution rate appears to have dropped in more recent quarters. The sum of their last eight quarters of dilution comes to 7.32%; over the last four quarters this has dropped to 1.63%.TSLA Quarterly Share Count vs. Cash vs. Income (By Author)Their debt situation is improving. This most recent quarter, Tesla had $210M in net interest expense, total debt was at $5811M, and long-term debt was at $504M.TSLA Quarterly Debt (By Author)Their quarterly cash flow is inconsistent. As of the most recent earnings report, cash and equivalents were $15,296M, quarterly operating income was $2,399M, EBITDA was $3553M, net income was $2,703M, unlevered free cash flow was $894.4M, and levered free cash flow was $876.9M.TSLA Quarterly Cash Flow (By Author)When viewed on a quarterly basis, their total equity continues to rise.TSLA Quarterly Total Equity (By Author)Their returns are trending in a similar pattern with their margins. As of the most recent earnings report ROIC was 4.66%, ROCE was 2.81%, and ROE was 5.18%.TSLA Quarterly Returns (By Author)ValuationAs of October 11th, 2023, Tesla had a market capitalization of $836.73B and traded for $262.99 per share. They do not pay a dividend, so using their forward P/E of 91.03x, and their EPS Long-Term CAGR of 19.72%, I calculated a PEGY of 4.616x and an Inverted PEGY of 0.2166x. As the PEGY value is well above 1, this implies the company is presently significantly overvalued.However, TSLA has a history of trading at elevated valuations. They are currently trading with an EV/EBITDA of 48.73x. When viewing their EV/EBITDA over the last 5 years, it's clear that its present valuation is historically not as overvalued as it has reached in the past.TSLA 5 Year EV/EBITDA (Seeking Alpha)RisksTesla faces a large number of competitors. A majority of the already established auto manufacturers on the planet are developing or already producing their own EV's and alternative fuel vehicles. This developing industry has also attracted a significant number of speculative startups. Because of Tesla's first mover advantage, and the time it will take to develop a viable product from nothing, I expect that the effects of this increasing competitive pressure will come on gradually.Autonomous driving may take longer to reach full maturity than they expect. Progress is expected to continue on its logistic growth curve, with most of the easy breakthroughs having already been made. The company already has a viable product, but they need a huge amount of additional data and time to fine tune it and make further safety and reliability improvements. It will likely be difficult to tell when they have actually crossed above the threshold where their FSD software can be called \"fully mature.\"As always with innovators, Tesla runs the risk of overspending to stay relevant. Developing their own hardware and software for machine learning may end up costing more than they expect, or not be as profitable as they project. The push to develop A.I. is spawning development across the industry, and Tesla is merely one of many companies working on their own projects. While I believe the decision to move into machine learning was good for the long-term health of the company, it's always possible the additional cost of joining the first movers will not be worth the benefits.CatalystsTesla faces several catalysts, most of which are not near term. Tesla has cut prices several times earlier this year. This should produce additional demand and help them capture market share. Tesla has been normalizing electric vehicle use; at some point we will cross the threshold where it's more normal culturally to drive an electric or alternative fuel vehicle than a gasoline or diesel.Tesla's overall engineering quality is extremely high. Tesla is several generations into EV development and their design philosophy has them continuously making performance improvements. For a specific example of what I am referencing, YouTube has videos of Sandy Munro comparing the thermal systems of the Mach-E and the Model Y. They are eye-opening.As stated above, I believe demand for their FSD software will increase once the insurance providers are willing to offer discounts. Organizations which maintain fleets of vehicles will have to justify not transitioning to the cheaper option. This is likely to affect everyone from car rental companies and taxi services, to government employees and utility vehicles. Demand for FSD may also spur their competition into producing vehicles which are capable of using Tesla's driverless software.Tesla is joining several others in the development of Iron-Air batteries. These types of batteries are significantly cheaper than the Li-ion we are all accustomed to. Tesla already operates a grid scale energy storage facility in Texas. The dramatic cost savings of Iron-Air batteries makes them a disruptive technology. Our electric grid currently requires a significant contribution from base load providers. As we increase its storage capacity, I believe the bargaining power the base load providers currently have will diminish as most of the negotiating power will shift to the storage providers.Also, storage providers will experience sustained tailwinds from the continued adoption of solar as they profit from daily arbitrage opportunities. Because of their dramatically lower cost of production, the adoption of iron-air batteries should both lower cost of expansion and improve margins for their energy storage division.Tesla achieves rather high margins for a manufacturer. As producers in other industries realize that the reason Tesla is achieving superior margins and return on capital is due to their preference for automated manufacturing, the demand for Tesla-style facilities should rise. The company could eventually open a subsidiary which establishes automated manufacturing facilities for other companies.ConclusionsNormally, I refuse to place buy ratings on any company this overvalued. However, I believe the current UAW strike will provide continued tailwinds for Tesla, Inc.'s share price as it continues. Add to this the fact that they have a history of achieving unreasonably high valuations and its present valuation becomes less of a concern. This is one of the few occasions where I am willing to hand out a buy rating on a ticker when I am unable to clearly see that it's trading below its intrinsic value. I believe Tesla has unrecognized long-term growth potential, so it potentially may have a hidden margin of safety.Overall, Tesla, Inc. appears to be an extremely attractive investment because of their culture of adaptation and innovation. While I cannot guarantee that their current endeavors will lead to future moats, they have already established themselves as a premier EV producer and have the potential to find themselves with multiple high margin revenue streams. Although their margins have been contracting over the last several quarters, they have proven they are capable of producing attractive returns.I believe Tesla stock is likely to become the long-term compounder that its present investors hope it will be. So even if buying at today's prices ends up being a lackluster entry in the short or medium term, long-term Tesla, Inc. shareholders are unlikely to be punished for it.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":183,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":140757917,"gmtCreate":1625676535639,"gmtModify":1703746314993,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Yes","listText":"Yes","text":"Yes","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/140757917","repostId":"1128775379","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1128775379","pubTimestamp":1625671136,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1128775379?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-07 23:18","market":"us","language":"en","title":"JPMorgan Bosses Predict Banks’ Long Trading Slump Gone for Good","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1128775379","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"(Bloomberg) -- Before 2020 unleashed a windfall for Wall Street traders, life in the business kept g","content":"<p>(Bloomberg) -- Before 2020 unleashed a windfall for Wall Street traders, life in the business kept getting harder as revenue weakened. Now, as the pandemic’s flurry of activity fades, the question is whether the decade-long slide will continue.</p>\n<p>The answer is no, according to Daniel Pinto, who oversees JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co.’s massive Wall Street operations.</p>\n<p>The industry’s collective revenue from trading -- its “wallet” -- probably reached its nadir before Covid-19, he said in an interview. And from those depths, things are likely to improve for years to come. That is, setting aside 2020.</p>\n<p>“You’re going to have, over time, an increasing wallet,” said Pinto, the bank’s co-president and co-chief operating officer. Post-crisis regulations and changes in market structure, such as electronification, that squeezed margins are now mostly in place, and the system is working well, he said. “From here you would expect that as the world grows and capital markets grow, the trading businesses will grow.”</p>\n<p>It might be hard for shareholders to remember that optimism in coming months as global banks face tough comparisons with 2020’s bonanza. JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. are set to kick off second-quarter earnings announcements next week. Already, JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon signaled a potential 38% decline from a year earlier, as he and executives from Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc. sought to temper expectations in recent weeks.</p>\n<p>For much of a decade after the financial crisis, total wallet for the 12 largest trading firms fell again and again. Their combined revenue from the business bottomed out at $110 billion in 2017 and hardly improved in the two years that followed, according to data from analytics firm Coalition Greenwich. The reasons were myriad: more stringent rules, the rise of electronic trading, persistently low interest rates, pressure from new entrants and the outright disappearance of some products post-crisis.</p>\n<p>Many of those changes have played out, and capital markets are expanding. Pinto and colleagues said that longer-term growth trend will be apparent this year.</p>\n<p>“If you put last year aside, which was a one-off, this year should be a very strong outcome when you put it on a multiyear basis,” said Troy Rohrbaugh, JPMorgan’s global head of markets.</p>\n<p>Equities will expand the industry’s wallet more than fixed-income products, Rohrbaugh predicted. The U.S. remains the region generating the biggest increase, though the trend is also positive in Europe, he said. The wallet from China will likely swell, but it’s unclear what share of the additional business will go to foreign firms. They will see some, at least, he said.</p>\n<p>Broadly, companies such as JPMorgan with the most scale and ability to invest in technology will have an advantage, though smaller firms will benefit too, he said.</p>\n<p>Does that mean that fewer traders will be around to participate in the upswing?</p>\n<p>“What you do will evolve,” Rohrbaugh said. “There are certainly some roles that will go away as you gain productivity. As more traditional jobs disappear, there are new jobs that pop up.</p>","source":"lsy1612507957220","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>JPMorgan Bosses Predict Banks’ Long Trading Slump Gone for Good</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nJPMorgan Bosses Predict Banks’ Long Trading Slump Gone for Good\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-07 23:18 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgan-bosses-predict-banks-long-120000722.html><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>(Bloomberg) -- Before 2020 unleashed a windfall for Wall Street traders, life in the business kept getting harder as revenue weakened. Now, as the pandemic’s flurry of activity fades, the question is ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgan-bosses-predict-banks-long-120000722.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"JPM":"摩根大通"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgan-bosses-predict-banks-long-120000722.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1128775379","content_text":"(Bloomberg) -- Before 2020 unleashed a windfall for Wall Street traders, life in the business kept getting harder as revenue weakened. Now, as the pandemic’s flurry of activity fades, the question is whether the decade-long slide will continue.\nThe answer is no, according to Daniel Pinto, who oversees JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s massive Wall Street operations.\nThe industry’s collective revenue from trading -- its “wallet” -- probably reached its nadir before Covid-19, he said in an interview. And from those depths, things are likely to improve for years to come. That is, setting aside 2020.\n“You’re going to have, over time, an increasing wallet,” said Pinto, the bank’s co-president and co-chief operating officer. Post-crisis regulations and changes in market structure, such as electronification, that squeezed margins are now mostly in place, and the system is working well, he said. “From here you would expect that as the world grows and capital markets grow, the trading businesses will grow.”\nIt might be hard for shareholders to remember that optimism in coming months as global banks face tough comparisons with 2020’s bonanza. JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. are set to kick off second-quarter earnings announcements next week. Already, JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon signaled a potential 38% decline from a year earlier, as he and executives from Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc. sought to temper expectations in recent weeks.\nFor much of a decade after the financial crisis, total wallet for the 12 largest trading firms fell again and again. Their combined revenue from the business bottomed out at $110 billion in 2017 and hardly improved in the two years that followed, according to data from analytics firm Coalition Greenwich. The reasons were myriad: more stringent rules, the rise of electronic trading, persistently low interest rates, pressure from new entrants and the outright disappearance of some products post-crisis.\nMany of those changes have played out, and capital markets are expanding. Pinto and colleagues said that longer-term growth trend will be apparent this year.\n“If you put last year aside, which was a one-off, this year should be a very strong outcome when you put it on a multiyear basis,” said Troy Rohrbaugh, JPMorgan’s global head of markets.\nEquities will expand the industry’s wallet more than fixed-income products, Rohrbaugh predicted. The U.S. remains the region generating the biggest increase, though the trend is also positive in Europe, he said. The wallet from China will likely swell, but it’s unclear what share of the additional business will go to foreign firms. They will see some, at least, he said.\nBroadly, companies such as JPMorgan with the most scale and ability to invest in technology will have an advantage, though smaller firms will benefit too, he said.\nDoes that mean that fewer traders will be around to participate in the upswing?\n“What you do will evolve,” Rohrbaugh said. “There are certainly some roles that will go away as you gain productivity. As more traditional jobs disappear, there are new jobs that pop up.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":68,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9071094635,"gmtCreate":1657425754127,"gmtModify":1676536006582,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. It's a prettybasic equation","listText":"Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. It's a prettybasic equation","text":"Just on the surface. Sales were lower because production was lower. Why? There was a major lock down in China. Can't be producing cars to sell when everyone is locked up at home. It's a prettybasic equation","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9071094635","repostId":"1116439526","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1116439526","pubTimestamp":1657425774,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1116439526?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-07-10 12:02","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla’s China Sales Increase Provides Little Substance","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1116439526","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Don't letTesla's(NASDAQ:TSLA) latest China sales report fool you. This stock still has a long way to","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li>Don&#39;t let<b>Tesla&#39;s</b>(NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>) latest China sales report fool you. This stock still has a long way to drop!</li><li>Tesla&#39;s broad-based sales are declining for the first time in two years.</li><li>The U.S. Treasury yield curve implies that contractionary monetary policies could wane on durable goods.</li><li>Tesla is overvalued and exhibits unfavorable beta sensitivity.</li></ul><p><b>Tesla</b>(NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>) surprised the market with its June preliminary deliveries report, which unveiled a 1.42x month-over-month increase in Chinese regional sales. Regionally, the electric vehicle giant sold more than 78,000 vehicles last month, a 1.35x year-over-year increase. Many investors are likely to jump on a recovery play as the company’s sales recovery could be misinterpreted for early-stage momentum. However, it’s necessary to recognize that Tesla’s China sales could be a temporary uptick as regional political risk remains elevated. In addition, TSLA stock has significant valuation issues, causing the current market environment to act unkindly toward it. Moreover, Tesla’s beta sensitivity means that it could be one of the major losers if a bear market persists.</p><p>Generally speaking, I believe TSLA stock is overhyped and set for further declines. Let’s dive deeper into it!</p><p><b>Tesla’s Prospective Sales</b></p><p>Investors shouldn’t be overwhelmed by TSLA’s latest China sales surge. Much of the sales have to do with the supply-side, where factories were allowed to produce again after certain pandemic restrictions were lifted. As such, sales proliferated. Additionally, Chinese pandemic lockdown policies have been inconsistent, to say the least. Thus, the question beckons whether Tesla’s China sales are sustainable in the long haul.</p><p>Furthermore, Tesla’s broad-based sales are taking a dip. The firm’s second-quarter sales report conveyed a decline in quarterly sales for the first time in two years. Tesla produced 258,000 vehicles in the quarter and delivered 254,659, reconciling to a 17.9% year-over-year decrease. Although much of the firm’s receding sales figure was down to production constraints, there’s much reason to believe that the economic climate is taking its toll on consumers.</p><p>I want to elaborate on the economy and what it means for TSLA stock. The U.S. Treasury Yield Curve implies that interest rates could settle above the 3% level before declining again. This means that the leading consumer economy in the world will be subject to contractionary monetary policies, which could see global consumer spending power wane. Moreover, the contraction of economic growth will likely affect the automotive industry as durable goods sales negatively correlate with rising interest rates. As such, Tesla could see its five-year compound annual growth rate of 48.72% retrace to a growth trend more stationary to gross domestic product growth soon.</p><p><b>Price Level Concerns With TSLA Stock</b></p><p>Using relative valuation metrics to assess growth stocks usually isn’t prudent. Nonetheless, whenever a bear market appears, it is probable that risk-averse investors will sell their overvalued assets first. TSLA stock is trading at11.29xits sales, 52.32x its cash flow, and 77.09x its earnings. Thus, it is safe to say that we’re looking at an overvalued stock here.</p><p>Additionally, TSLA stock’s high beta status could coalesce with its poor valuation metrics to cause a tremendous drawdown. Tesla’s beta coefficient of 2.13 means that it exhibits excess sensitivity to the broader market, which is exactly what you do not want in a bear market.</p><p>So, all matters considered, I think TSLA stock is a strong sell!</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla’s China Sales Increase Provides Little Substance</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla’s China Sales Increase Provides Little Substance\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-07-10 12:02 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/category/todays-market/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Don't letTesla's(NASDAQ:TSLA) latest China sales report fool you. This stock still has a long way to drop!Tesla's broad-based sales are declining for the first time in two years.The U.S. Treasury ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/category/todays-market/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/category/todays-market/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1116439526","content_text":"Don't letTesla's(NASDAQ:TSLA) latest China sales report fool you. This stock still has a long way to drop!Tesla's broad-based sales are declining for the first time in two years.The U.S. Treasury yield curve implies that contractionary monetary policies could wane on durable goods.Tesla is overvalued and exhibits unfavorable beta sensitivity.Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA) surprised the market with its June preliminary deliveries report, which unveiled a 1.42x month-over-month increase in Chinese regional sales. Regionally, the electric vehicle giant sold more than 78,000 vehicles last month, a 1.35x year-over-year increase. Many investors are likely to jump on a recovery play as the company’s sales recovery could be misinterpreted for early-stage momentum. However, it’s necessary to recognize that Tesla’s China sales could be a temporary uptick as regional political risk remains elevated. In addition, TSLA stock has significant valuation issues, causing the current market environment to act unkindly toward it. Moreover, Tesla’s beta sensitivity means that it could be one of the major losers if a bear market persists.Generally speaking, I believe TSLA stock is overhyped and set for further declines. Let’s dive deeper into it!Tesla’s Prospective SalesInvestors shouldn’t be overwhelmed by TSLA’s latest China sales surge. Much of the sales have to do with the supply-side, where factories were allowed to produce again after certain pandemic restrictions were lifted. As such, sales proliferated. Additionally, Chinese pandemic lockdown policies have been inconsistent, to say the least. Thus, the question beckons whether Tesla’s China sales are sustainable in the long haul.Furthermore, Tesla’s broad-based sales are taking a dip. The firm’s second-quarter sales report conveyed a decline in quarterly sales for the first time in two years. Tesla produced 258,000 vehicles in the quarter and delivered 254,659, reconciling to a 17.9% year-over-year decrease. Although much of the firm’s receding sales figure was down to production constraints, there’s much reason to believe that the economic climate is taking its toll on consumers.I want to elaborate on the economy and what it means for TSLA stock. The U.S. Treasury Yield Curve implies that interest rates could settle above the 3% level before declining again. This means that the leading consumer economy in the world will be subject to contractionary monetary policies, which could see global consumer spending power wane. Moreover, the contraction of economic growth will likely affect the automotive industry as durable goods sales negatively correlate with rising interest rates. As such, Tesla could see its five-year compound annual growth rate of 48.72% retrace to a growth trend more stationary to gross domestic product growth soon.Price Level Concerns With TSLA StockUsing relative valuation metrics to assess growth stocks usually isn’t prudent. Nonetheless, whenever a bear market appears, it is probable that risk-averse investors will sell their overvalued assets first. TSLA stock is trading at11.29xits sales, 52.32x its cash flow, and 77.09x its earnings. Thus, it is safe to say that we’re looking at an overvalued stock here.Additionally, TSLA stock’s high beta status could coalesce with its poor valuation metrics to cause a tremendous drawdown. Tesla’s beta coefficient of 2.13 means that it exhibits excess sensitivity to the broader market, which is exactly what you do not want in a bear market.So, all matters considered, I think TSLA stock is a strong sell!","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":103,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9944475872,"gmtCreate":1682069574796,"gmtModify":1682069578977,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"As much as I love Tesla. Robotaxi still looks like quite a stretch 🫣","listText":"As much as I love Tesla. Robotaxi still looks like quite a stretch 🫣","text":"As much as I love Tesla. Robotaxi still looks like quite a stretch 🫣","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9944475872","repostId":"2329777000","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2329777000","pubTimestamp":1682067627,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2329777000?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-04-21 17:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Cathie Wood Puts a $2,000 Price Target on Tesla for 2027, Driven By Robotaxis","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2329777000","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Cathie Wood's ARK Invest issued a new price target on Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) that would value the EV ma","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Cathie Wood&#39;s ARK Invest issued a new price target on Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) that would value the EV maker at more than $6T in fewer than four years.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/10eaa0a0e6b9272c3ae0590c53edc5a1\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>ARK issued a report late Thursday, a day after Tesla&#39;s (TSLA) disappointing quarterly results, that valued the company at $2,000 per share by 2027 as the base case.</p><p>The target is bookended by a 25% chance of a bear case where TSLA hits $1,400 or less in 2027 and a 25% chance of a bull case where it reaches $2,500 per share or more.</p><p>The $2,000 target would value Tesla (TSLA) at about $6.34T, compared with the current market cap of $516.6B. Tesla (TSLA) shares fell 10% on Thursday on margin worries following price cuts through this year.</p><p>TSLA is the largest holding in Wood&#39;s flagship ARKK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA:ARKK).</p><p>“We want Tesla to scale its units because each one of them now represents the potential for a robotaxi, or a robotaxi fleet,&#34; Wood said on CNBC.</p><p>“The robotaxi service is going to be, from a margin point of view, more like a SAAS business and so we think that it is very smart to maximize unit because they have so much option value now,” she added.</p><p>“Tesla’s prospective robotaxi business line is a key driver, contributing 58% of expected enterprise value and 45% of expected EBITDA in 2027,” ARK analysts said in their report. “Across our simulation set, electric vehicles account for 62% of revenues in 2027, at substantially lower margins than robotaxi revenue.”</p><p>Not surprisingly, Wood added TSLA shares to ARKK on the dip last night, buying 219,810 shares to bring it to 0.4799% of the portfolio. ARK also added 36,213 shares to the ARK Next Generation Internet fund (ARKW), bringing that to 0.4827% of the portfolio.</p><p>TSLA is down 50% from a year ago, but has gained about 50% year to date. ARKK is down 33% in the past year and up 23% year to date. ARKW fell 34% in a year and is up 32% in 2023.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood Puts a $2,000 Price Target on Tesla for 2027, Driven By Robotaxis</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Tesla (TSLA) shares fell 10% on Thursday on margin worries following price cuts through this year.TSLA is the largest holding in Wood's flagship ARKK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA:ARKK).“We want Tesla to scale its units because each one of them now represents the potential for a robotaxi, or a robotaxi fleet,\" Wood said on CNBC.“The robotaxi service is going to be, from a margin point of view, more like a SAAS business and so we think that it is very smart to maximize unit because they have so much option value now,” she added.“Tesla’s prospective robotaxi business line is a key driver, contributing 58% of expected enterprise value and 45% of expected EBITDA in 2027,” ARK analysts said in their report. “Across our simulation set, electric vehicles account for 62% of revenues in 2027, at substantially lower margins than robotaxi revenue.”Not surprisingly, Wood added TSLA shares to ARKK on the dip last night, buying 219,810 shares to bring it to 0.4799% of the portfolio. ARK also added 36,213 shares to the ARK Next Generation Internet fund (ARKW), bringing that to 0.4827% of the portfolio.TSLA is down 50% from a year ago, but has gained about 50% year to date. ARKK is down 33% in the past year and up 23% year to date. ARKW fell 34% in a year and is up 32% in 2023.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":126,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":153294252,"gmtCreate":1625026017376,"gmtModify":1703850434023,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nice","listText":"Nice","text":"Nice","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/153294252","repostId":"1122418477","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1122418477","pubTimestamp":1625008161,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1122418477?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-30 07:09","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tech stocks propel S&P 500, Nasdaq to fresh highs","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1122418477","media":"CNBC","summary":"The S&P 500 notched another record high on Tuesday amid bullish economic data but retreated toward the flat line later in the session as Wall Street continued its recent period of low volatility.The broad market index ticked up less than 0.1% to 4,291.80, good enough for its fourth-straight record close. The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished with a gain of about 9 points after being up more than 100 points earlier in the session, closing at 34,292.29. 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The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished with a gain of about 9 points after being up more than 100 points earlier in the session, closing at 34,292.29. The tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite added about 0.2% for its own record of 14,528.33.\nHomebuilder stocks moved higher after S&P Case-Shiller saidhome prices rose more than 14% in Aprilcompared to the prior year. Five U.S. cities, including Seattle, saw their largest annual increase on record. Shares of PulteGroup rose 2%.\nSemiconductor stocks gained strength later in the session, with Skyworks and Advanced Micro Devices climbing 4.5% and 2.8%, respectively. General Electric boosted the industrials sector, rising over 1% afterGoldman Sachs named the stock a top idea.\nThe market has churned out a series of record highs in recent weeks, but the gains have been relatively modest and some strategists have pointed to weak market breadth, measured by the performance of the average stock and the number of individual names making new highs, as a potential area of concern.\nOn Tuesday, there were slightly more declining stocks in the S&P 500 than those that rose during the session.\nHowever, the diminished breadth and volatility could simply be a natural pause during the summer months ahead of the busy earnings season in July, said Bill McMahon, the chief investment officer for active equity strategies at Charles Schwab Investment Management.\n\"I think people are in a little bit of a wait-and-see mode, so it's not surprising to see volatility decline and breadth worsen a tad,\" McMahon said, adding that concern about the spreading Delta variant of Covid-19 could also be weighing on stocks.\nShares of Morgan Stanley jumped more than 3% after the bank said it willdouble its quarterly dividend. The bank also announced a $12 billion stock buyback program. The announcement follows last week's stress tests by the Federal Reserve, which all 23 major banks passed. However, some other bank stocks gave up early gains and weighed on the broader indexes despite increasing their own payout plans.\nThe Conference Board's consumer confidence reading for June came in higher than expected, adding to the bullish readings about the economic recovery.\nWith the market entering the final trading days of June and the second quarter, the S&P 500 is on track to register its fifth straight month of gains. The Nasdaq is pacing for its seventh positive month in the last eight. The Dow, however, is in the red for the month, and on track to snap a four-month winning streak.\nSo far in 2021, the S&P 500 has added 14%, while the Nasdaq has added more than 12% with the Dow close behind.\nJPMorgan quantitative strategist Dubravkos Lakos-Bujas said on CNBC's \"Squawk Box\" that the market appeared to have near-term upside.\n\"The growth policy backdrop in our opinion still remains supportive for risk assets in general, certainly including equities. At the same time, the positioning is not really stretched to where we are in a problematic territory. So we do think there is still a runway. ... 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Nobody wants to see a premium brand sell an $18k car.\"Wedbush analyst Dan Ives reacted positively to Tesla's investor day, stating that the company is beating its competitors.\"For investors its crystal clear just how far ahead Tesla is ahead of the rest of the auto industry when it comes to producing/scaling EVs with last night another display of the pure breadth and scale of Tesla globally,\" he tweeted. \"This was a showcase event for Musk and the Tesla community.\"Even though investors had sought more details about future models and sales projections, Ives is confident that Tesla can deliver a cheaper EV.\"The reality is the Street will and has always walked away from Tesla investor days 'wanting more',\" he tweeted. \"But in my opinion that’s the Tesla/Musk DNA and seeing the forest through the trees yesterday presented all the ingredients in the recipe for a cheaper vehicle sub $30k likely by 25.\"Gary Black, a Tesla bull, did not change his price target and maintains his prediction of $370 a share after the presentation.\"$TSLA is still our top position,\" he tweeted. \"I didn’t change my $370 PT. 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Let’s take a look at this week’s news rundown for TSLA stock investors.</p><p>Top Headlines for TSLA Stock Investors</p><p><i>Tesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with Vale</i></p><p>This news represents a significant step forward in Tesla’s quest to conquer the electric vehicle (EV) battery market. Supply chain constraints, including those stemming from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, have posed significant threats to battery production. For Tesla to confirm a multi-year deal with<b>Vale</b>(NYSE:<b><u>VALE</u></b>), one of the world’s leading nickel producers, is no small thing. It positions the company well to keep producing batteries. Anyone who doubted Tesla’s resources should be reassured of its ability to procure valuable battery materials.</p><p><i>Tesla targets pre-lockdown output in Shanghai by mid-May</i></p><p>Tesla has resumed production in Shanghai and it is determined to make up for lost time. The company has already scaled EV production at the plant back to 80% of its pre-shutdown levels. <i>Reuters</i> reports that while the company is only running one shift at the Shanghai facility, it plans to add another soon. Prior to the recent shutdowns, it was running three. At this rate, Tesla won’t have a problem meeting its goal of returning to its original output by mid-May.</p><p><i>Analyst: Q2 2022 will be “monstrous” for Tesla</i></p><p>Wall Street is still bullish on TSLA stock and one analyst just issued a positive take. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry recently issued a note to investors. “May 2022 is off to an extremely strong [start with] Production, Shipments, and Deliveries,” he wrote. 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With the market selloff spurred by Federal Reserve rate hikes, many companies struggled. TSLA ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-news-3-biggest-headlines-that-tesla-investors-need-to-know-this-week/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-news-3-biggest-headlines-that-tesla-investors-need-to-know-this-week/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1156333883","content_text":"Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA), like many of its mega-cap peers, has spent this week battling negative market forces. With the market selloff spurred by Federal Reserve rate hikes, many companies struggled. TSLA stock was no different, now down 20% for the month.However, Tesla reported some good news this week.The company is planning to expand its gigafactory facilities in both Berlin and Shanghai. Plus, production is already back up to 80% of what it was prior to the Shanghai shutdowns. If both expansion efforts materialize, the factories will be set to continue scaling production and meet the rising demand across both Europe and Asia.Those weren’t the only stories worth paying attention to, though. Let’s take a look at this week’s news rundown for TSLA stock investors.Top Headlines for TSLA Stock InvestorsTesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with ValeThis news represents a significant step forward in Tesla’s quest to conquer the electric vehicle (EV) battery market. Supply chain constraints, including those stemming from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, have posed significant threats to battery production. For Tesla to confirm a multi-year deal withVale(NYSE:VALE), one of the world’s leading nickel producers, is no small thing. It positions the company well to keep producing batteries. Anyone who doubted Tesla’s resources should be reassured of its ability to procure valuable battery materials.Tesla targets pre-lockdown output in Shanghai by mid-MayTesla has resumed production in Shanghai and it is determined to make up for lost time. The company has already scaled EV production at the plant back to 80% of its pre-shutdown levels. Reuters reports that while the company is only running one shift at the Shanghai facility, it plans to add another soon. Prior to the recent shutdowns, it was running three. At this rate, Tesla won’t have a problem meeting its goal of returning to its original output by mid-May.Analyst: Q2 2022 will be “monstrous” for TeslaWall Street is still bullish on TSLA stock and one analyst just issued a positive take. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry recently issued a note to investors. “May 2022 is off to an extremely strong [start with] Production, Shipments, and Deliveries,” he wrote. His estimate is that the company’s number of shipping trucks has grown by 20%.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":60,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9060038799,"gmtCreate":1651068648334,"gmtModify":1676534843875,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Madness","listText":"Madness","text":"Madness","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9060038799","repostId":"2230432994","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2230432994","pubTimestamp":1651050041,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2230432994?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-04-27 17:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2230432994","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a positi","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>Tuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.</li><li>Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my intuition and research is telling me to make this change.</li><li>In the following piece, I will expound on why I have decided to take profits on my Tesla position and start a new position in Ford.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/924d44c1e072e2ad774acb68c4b49fe9\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>jetcityimage/iStock Editorial via Getty Images</span></p><p><b>What Happened?</b></p><p>Today, I took profits on my long-term position in Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford (NYSE:F). In the following sections, I will explain my reasoning for making this move.</p><p><b>You must take profits to make profits</b></p><p>I often quote my father, who was my mentor and an outstanding stockbroker. One of his mantras was &#34;You have to take profits to make profits.&#34; The meaning behind this is the fact it&#39;s all &#34;unrealized&#34; paper gains until you actually sell the security and transfer the proceeds into your checking account and/or into another investment. Further, he was very disciplined regarding when profits should be taken and why. Fortunately, I fell in love with my Tesla position and have held it way longer than my father ever would have, making it one of my most lucrative investments. Nevertheless, I endured several drawdowns over the years. Now, with Musk buying Twitter (TWTR) by pledging an additional $45 billion worth of Tesla shares, I have decided to take profits and sit this one out amongst other reasons. Let me explain.</p><p><b>Musk&#39;s highly leveraged Tesla position increases risk</b></p><p>Elon is buying a majority of Twitter by taking out a $49 billion margin loan against his Tesla shares. He already has pledged a substantial amount of Tesla shares previously, bringing his margin total to $89 billion. Further, Musk is the first lienholder on the Twitter position. He is on the hook for essentially the first $33 billion of Twitter, if by some chance they can&#39;t pay the bills.</p><p>Musk has already stated it&#39;s not about the money to him, so that doesn&#39;t necessarily give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about the prospects. Further, if for some unforeseen reason Tesla shares fall and Musk gets a margin call, that would be a major debacle. It has happened before. Nearly 10 years ago to the day, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters demoted its founder and chairman, Robert Stiller, and its lead director, William Davis, after the high-flying coffee company&#39;s share-price plunged forced the men into emergency stock sales resulting from margin calls. In fact, many companies have banned the practice at this point. Now, this is definitely a &#34;backburner&#34; type issue as Musk is constantly receiving new shares and options, yet it is there in the back of my mind. Further, I really don&#39;t find the new Cybertruck appealing. I like Ford&#39;s F150 Lightning pickup, which leads me to my next point.</p><p><b>The competition has finally arrived</b></p><p>The Ford F150 Lightning is now officially in production. I have done my research on the truck and I love it. Ford CEO Jim Farley said on Monday:</p><blockquote><i>The company is not joking around by saying the electric F-150 lightning could be as big a product for the automaker as the Model T back in 1908.</i></blockquote><p>I would have to agree. Ford plans to scale production of the F-150 Lightning even faster than competitors, with plans to boost manufacturing of the Lightning at a plant in Dearborn to 150,000 units in the next year, up from an initial target of 40,000 vehicles.</p><p>What&#39;s more, Ford has secured the lithium-ion batteries needed to meet its expected level of production of 150,000 units next year. Moreover, the company plans to prioritize supplies of semiconductor chips toward the F-150 Lightning.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c42cd5b5effe20ffbbd01bed01c0e3bc\" tg-width=\"617\" tg-height=\"389\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford F150 Lightning Pickup (Ford website)</span></p><p>The response has been so overwhelming, Ford is no longer taking retail reservations at this time. Additionally, Ford isn&#39;t the only competition. As I&#39;m sure you are aware, there is a plethora of new EV vehicle entrants into the race. The primary reason I&#39;ve chosen to switch from Tesla to Ford is the product. Secondarily, is valuation. Let me explain.</p><p><b>Two completely different animals when it comes to valuation</b></p><p>Tesla trades at 16 times sales while Ford currently trading at 0.47 times sales. Basically, making Ford the Rodney Dangerfield of EV players – “Ford don&#39;t get no respect!” Ha! Now, Tesla may very well deserve its elevated valuation based on its growth rate trajectory and the value of said future cash flows. Nonetheless, under the current Federal Reserve regime, the value of these future cash flows may be diminished greatly by inflation and increased interest rates. I am making a conscious effort to reduce my exposure to &#34;long-duration assets.&#34; Let me explain why Ford presents a better opportunity under current conditions.</p><p><b>Ford significantly undervalued</b></p><p>First of all, Ford is basically trading for a song at the present valuation. Ford&#39;s forward P/E of 6.57 is just over a third of the current S&amp;P 500 Forward P/E of 19.44. The stock is trading for 1.2 times book of $12.14. If ever there was a bargain basement buying opportunity in Ford, this is it.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1ecd5be52cd449328e56f792ebe9ad27\" tg-width=\"467\" tg-height=\"134\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford Fundamentals (Finviz)</span></p><p>On top of this, management has done an excellent job of cleaning up the balance sheet. The company maintains a fortress balance sheet with $11.63 per share in cash alone. This helps me not just sleep well, but sleep like a baby at night. Furthermore, the stock has sold off substantially since the start of the year and appears to me to be at an inflection point.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5faca498ac9117d6d6aebc61f4c22dea\" tg-width=\"278\" tg-height=\"389\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Ford 2022 Performance (Finviz)</span></p><p>With the stock trading for rock bottom pricing and having the weak hands thoroughly shaken out over the last few months by the insipid macro environment, I suggest now is an excellent time to start a position heading into earnings. One of my top investing mentors, Sir John Templeton&#39;s quote of &#34;Buy at the point of maximum pessimism&#34; seems quite apropos. The market just experienced a 7 to 1 advance/decline trading day today with 7 stocks down for every 1 stock up. This qualifies as a substantial washout in my book. The baby has definitely been thrown out with the bath water in my book. Furthermore, the Ford CEO Jim Farley is a salesman extraordinaire.</p><p><b>Ford CEO Jim Farley is special</b></p><p>Ford&#39;s CEO Jim Farley has personality for days and is extremely competitive. His statement that the Ford F150 Lightning will be bigger than the model T is the proof in the pudding of what I say. Not to mention the electrifying Ford Mustang Mach-E which definitely lives up to the hype.</p><p>Farley has captured the attention of all, rivaling the likes of P.T. Barnum in some ways, much like his famous cousin Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live, who I absolutely adored. Yet, don&#39;t get me wrong, he has the wherewithal and business acumen to back it up. His career in automobiles was inspired by his grandfather who began working for Ford in 1914. I have faith that Farley will be able to present the best case for the company on the upcoming earnings call. Ford is due to report earnings on April 27th after the close.</p><p><b>Ford Earnings Preview</b></p><p>The following table details Ford&#39;s expected earnings estimates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5856ccd7559c4442c6cfac6efae3d8\" tg-width=\"617\" tg-height=\"242\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>You can see that there have been six downward revisions over the last 90 days. With the stock down significantly going into earnings and expectations diminished, I see the company beating estimates and rising. Even so, the real focus will be on guidance, which has already &#34;quasi&#34; been announced with them revealing they will produce 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups rather than the original 40,000. I am expecting Ford to pop on earnings. This is why I made the move to sell Tesla and buy Ford ahead of the announcement. Nonetheless, I have only bought one-third of the position in order to reduce risk. In these situations where I have a positive outlook on earnings, I will divide the buys into thirds. One-third before earnings to gain a foothold, one-third after earnings, and one-third in reserve to buy on any future potential weakness. I always suggest layering into new positions over time to reduce risk. Now let&#39;s wrap it up.</p><p><b>Wrap up</b></p><p>I love Elon Musk and all that he has done for the country and the world frankly. Even so, adding Twitter to his endeavors in addition to Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, The Boring Company, and any others I may have forgotten, I think he may be reaching his limit. Further, he definitely has maxed out his Tesla margin credit card at this point, which gives me pause. Yet, the primary factor that sealed the deal for me was what I believe is Ford&#39;s superior product, the F150 Lightning, which I plan to buy as soon as available. On top of this, Ford&#39;s conservative valuation was a major selling point as well. The valuation factor is of particular import to me based on the recent change in the Federal Reserve&#39;s regime, from Dove to Hawk. And finally, I made this move in order to cash in and &#34;realize&#34; the substantial gains I had with my long-term Tesla position. I have held it in a tax advantaged account, so the capital gains created were not an issue for me. I bring this up because this transaction is particular to my unique situation. It may not be appropriate for all investors. That is why you should always consult a financial advisor before making any decisions regarding your investments. Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this article. I hope I provided some tidbit of value with this effort.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy I Sold Tesla And Bought Ford\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-27 17:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","F":"福特汽车"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4503886-sold-tesla-bought-ford-stock","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2230432994","content_text":"SummaryTuesday, I sold out of my Tesla position and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford.Don’t get me wrong, I love Elon Musk and Tesla. Yet, business is business, and my intuition and research is telling me to make this change.In the following piece, I will expound on why I have decided to take profits on my Tesla position and start a new position in Ford.jetcityimage/iStock Editorial via Getty ImagesWhat Happened?Today, I took profits on my long-term position in Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and used a portion of the proceeds to start a position in Ford (NYSE:F). In the following sections, I will explain my reasoning for making this move.You must take profits to make profitsI often quote my father, who was my mentor and an outstanding stockbroker. One of his mantras was \"You have to take profits to make profits.\" The meaning behind this is the fact it's all \"unrealized\" paper gains until you actually sell the security and transfer the proceeds into your checking account and/or into another investment. Further, he was very disciplined regarding when profits should be taken and why. Fortunately, I fell in love with my Tesla position and have held it way longer than my father ever would have, making it one of my most lucrative investments. Nevertheless, I endured several drawdowns over the years. Now, with Musk buying Twitter (TWTR) by pledging an additional $45 billion worth of Tesla shares, I have decided to take profits and sit this one out amongst other reasons. Let me explain.Musk's highly leveraged Tesla position increases riskElon is buying a majority of Twitter by taking out a $49 billion margin loan against his Tesla shares. He already has pledged a substantial amount of Tesla shares previously, bringing his margin total to $89 billion. Further, Musk is the first lienholder on the Twitter position. He is on the hook for essentially the first $33 billion of Twitter, if by some chance they can't pay the bills.Musk has already stated it's not about the money to him, so that doesn't necessarily give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling about the prospects. Further, if for some unforeseen reason Tesla shares fall and Musk gets a margin call, that would be a major debacle. It has happened before. Nearly 10 years ago to the day, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters demoted its founder and chairman, Robert Stiller, and its lead director, William Davis, after the high-flying coffee company's share-price plunged forced the men into emergency stock sales resulting from margin calls. In fact, many companies have banned the practice at this point. Now, this is definitely a \"backburner\" type issue as Musk is constantly receiving new shares and options, yet it is there in the back of my mind. Further, I really don't find the new Cybertruck appealing. I like Ford's F150 Lightning pickup, which leads me to my next point.The competition has finally arrivedThe Ford F150 Lightning is now officially in production. I have done my research on the truck and I love it. Ford CEO Jim Farley said on Monday:The company is not joking around by saying the electric F-150 lightning could be as big a product for the automaker as the Model T back in 1908.I would have to agree. Ford plans to scale production of the F-150 Lightning even faster than competitors, with plans to boost manufacturing of the Lightning at a plant in Dearborn to 150,000 units in the next year, up from an initial target of 40,000 vehicles.What's more, Ford has secured the lithium-ion batteries needed to meet its expected level of production of 150,000 units next year. Moreover, the company plans to prioritize supplies of semiconductor chips toward the F-150 Lightning.Ford F150 Lightning Pickup (Ford website)The response has been so overwhelming, Ford is no longer taking retail reservations at this time. Additionally, Ford isn't the only competition. As I'm sure you are aware, there is a plethora of new EV vehicle entrants into the race. The primary reason I've chosen to switch from Tesla to Ford is the product. Secondarily, is valuation. Let me explain.Two completely different animals when it comes to valuationTesla trades at 16 times sales while Ford currently trading at 0.47 times sales. Basically, making Ford the Rodney Dangerfield of EV players – “Ford don't get no respect!” Ha! Now, Tesla may very well deserve its elevated valuation based on its growth rate trajectory and the value of said future cash flows. Nonetheless, under the current Federal Reserve regime, the value of these future cash flows may be diminished greatly by inflation and increased interest rates. I am making a conscious effort to reduce my exposure to \"long-duration assets.\" Let me explain why Ford presents a better opportunity under current conditions.Ford significantly undervaluedFirst of all, Ford is basically trading for a song at the present valuation. Ford's forward P/E of 6.57 is just over a third of the current S&P 500 Forward P/E of 19.44. The stock is trading for 1.2 times book of $12.14. If ever there was a bargain basement buying opportunity in Ford, this is it.Ford Fundamentals (Finviz)On top of this, management has done an excellent job of cleaning up the balance sheet. The company maintains a fortress balance sheet with $11.63 per share in cash alone. This helps me not just sleep well, but sleep like a baby at night. Furthermore, the stock has sold off substantially since the start of the year and appears to me to be at an inflection point.Ford 2022 Performance (Finviz)With the stock trading for rock bottom pricing and having the weak hands thoroughly shaken out over the last few months by the insipid macro environment, I suggest now is an excellent time to start a position heading into earnings. One of my top investing mentors, Sir John Templeton's quote of \"Buy at the point of maximum pessimism\" seems quite apropos. The market just experienced a 7 to 1 advance/decline trading day today with 7 stocks down for every 1 stock up. This qualifies as a substantial washout in my book. The baby has definitely been thrown out with the bath water in my book. Furthermore, the Ford CEO Jim Farley is a salesman extraordinaire.Ford CEO Jim Farley is specialFord's CEO Jim Farley has personality for days and is extremely competitive. His statement that the Ford F150 Lightning will be bigger than the model T is the proof in the pudding of what I say. Not to mention the electrifying Ford Mustang Mach-E which definitely lives up to the hype.Farley has captured the attention of all, rivaling the likes of P.T. Barnum in some ways, much like his famous cousin Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live, who I absolutely adored. Yet, don't get me wrong, he has the wherewithal and business acumen to back it up. His career in automobiles was inspired by his grandfather who began working for Ford in 1914. I have faith that Farley will be able to present the best case for the company on the upcoming earnings call. Ford is due to report earnings on April 27th after the close.Ford Earnings PreviewThe following table details Ford's expected earnings estimates.Seeking AlphaYou can see that there have been six downward revisions over the last 90 days. With the stock down significantly going into earnings and expectations diminished, I see the company beating estimates and rising. Even so, the real focus will be on guidance, which has already \"quasi\" been announced with them revealing they will produce 150,000 F150 Lightning pickups rather than the original 40,000. I am expecting Ford to pop on earnings. This is why I made the move to sell Tesla and buy Ford ahead of the announcement. Nonetheless, I have only bought one-third of the position in order to reduce risk. In these situations where I have a positive outlook on earnings, I will divide the buys into thirds. One-third before earnings to gain a foothold, one-third after earnings, and one-third in reserve to buy on any future potential weakness. I always suggest layering into new positions over time to reduce risk. Now let's wrap it up.Wrap upI love Elon Musk and all that he has done for the country and the world frankly. Even so, adding Twitter to his endeavors in addition to Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, The Boring Company, and any others I may have forgotten, I think he may be reaching his limit. Further, he definitely has maxed out his Tesla margin credit card at this point, which gives me pause. Yet, the primary factor that sealed the deal for me was what I believe is Ford's superior product, the F150 Lightning, which I plan to buy as soon as available. On top of this, Ford's conservative valuation was a major selling point as well. The valuation factor is of particular import to me based on the recent change in the Federal Reserve's regime, from Dove to Hawk. And finally, I made this move in order to cash in and \"realize\" the substantial gains I had with my long-term Tesla position. I have held it in a tax advantaged account, so the capital gains created were not an issue for me. I bring this up because this transaction is particular to my unique situation. It may not be appropriate for all investors. That is why you should always consult a financial advisor before making any decisions regarding your investments. Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this article. I hope I provided some tidbit of value with this effort.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":73,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9086683163,"gmtCreate":1650448901275,"gmtModify":1676534726249,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"What nonsense?","listText":"What nonsense?","text":"What nonsense?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9086683163","repostId":"1105569285","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1105569285","pubTimestamp":1650468622,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1105569285?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-04-20 23:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is The End Near For Musk And Tesla?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105569285","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryDespite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable, ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Summary</p><ul><li>Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.</li><li>While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable, a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.</li><li>The hype around Musk’s stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead of Tesla.</li></ul><p>For years, Elon Musk has used hype to prop up Tesla’s stock. It’s worked so well that other companies have followed his lead. But now, we think the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. The attempted Twitter (TWTR) takeover is yet another example of Musk bullying his way into what he wants and underscores how his super-star status cannot always convince people to overlook his irreverent, reckless, and potentially illegal behavior. As the recent lawsuit againstMusk shows, he is not completely immune from the consequences of his actions. Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.</p><p><b>End of the Road for Musk</b></p><p>Most investors are keenly aware of Musk’s long history of making grand promises that don’t come true – the Roadster, the Semi, the Cybertruck, full-self driving (FSD) etc. – and at times are blatantly unethical, such as tweeting “funding secured” to go private, and pumping Doge coin. But now, we have evidence that he may have acted illegally in the way he reported his purchases of Twitter stock. Given the clear rules about how investors should report large stakes in public companies – like what Musk has in Twitter – this case seems straightforward: Musk broke the rules.</p><p>The next question is how severely he will be punished. If the past is any guide, regulators will not muster more than a slap on the wrist. The real question is how institutional investors will react to signs Musk has pushed the envelope too far.</p><p>Institutional investors own Tesla stock more often because they must, given its influence on their performance, than because they see it as a good investment. Any investor with a rigorous process can see the stock is ridiculously overvalued; so, you own it for the “Musk effect”. Accordingly, the institutional investors’ decision to sell Tesla stock will be based on when Musk’s outsized influence begins to wane.</p><p>We think that moment has come.</p><p><b>Musk Meets His Maker: Twitter</b></p><p>In our view, Musk’s repeated rule-breaking behavior has finally gone too far. Details of the case are still emerging, but Musk’s failure to disclose his more than 5% stake in Twitter arguably hurt investors who sold shares after he crossed that ownership threshold. Instead, Musk kept purchasing shares until reaching a 9% stake in Twitter before disclosing his position. The initial class-action lawsuit and the potential for more have finally gotten the attention of investors, if not regulators.</p><p>The poor reception Twitter’s employees gave the news of Musk’s stake is a very public rejection of his super-star influencer status and provide the first tangible evidence that maybe his star power has limitations. If a hostile takeover prompts a mass exodus of talent, then Musk might end up destroying the company in the process of buying it. That being said, the loudest voices in the company are not necessarily the most valuable.</p><p>As more people join lawsuits against Musk, and Twitter employees continue to express their mistrust of the company’s largest shareholder, institutional investors may seize this moment to quietly unload their shares of overvalued Tesla stock. Now is the time to sell because the price of the stock to this point has been more a reflection of Musk’s ability to draw an audience than any underlying fundamental value in the company.</p><p><b>Live by the Stunt, Die by the Stunt</b></p><p>Ultimately, it appears that as much as Twitter was the launch pad for Musk’s super influence powers, his failure thus far to win the publicity battle could mark the beginning-of-the-end of his super-star status.</p><p>Musk’s Twitter play, which is another in a long series of distractions, could end poorly for Musk. Instead of addressing Tesla’s issues, Musk appears to be attempting to position himself as a defender of free speech. The risk he faces is that instead of looking like a hero he looks more like a bully running an ego-driven takeover with little regard for the rules. While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable (more on this below), a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.</p><p>Tesla’s investors have not been impressed with Musk’s Twitter antics either, as the stock is down 11% since he announced his ownership in the social media giant. Likewise, the “Musk bump” in Twitter shares is likely to fade as investors realize the only value Musk brought was publicity, and not good publicity either. Although Twitter remains a popular platform, it has its own problems and suggestions such as removing a letter from its name can do more harm than good.</p><p><b>Why Haven’t Regulators Done Anything Before Now?</b></p><p>Tesla’s high stock price has, thus far, kept its CEO well beyond an arm’s length of regulators. Other executives in other times likely would have faced consequences for many of the things Musk has said and done. Today, Tesla’s high stock price indicates investors’ collective belief in Musk’s promises and protects Musk. Regulators don’t want to be accused of causing the company’s stock price to fall, thereby destroying the wealth of many investors and, as a result, footing the cost of defending against numerous shareholder lawsuits.</p><p>Furthermore, Musk can claim Tesla’s elevated stock price and the wealth it endows is what he needs to fulfill his outlandish promises over time. However, should Tesla’s stock price ever reflect realistic expectations for the company, authorities may feel emboldened to pursue legal or regulatory action against Musk and/or Tesla. Credible claims can be made for several offenses, including:</p><ul><li>stock and cryptocurrency manipulation</li><li>false advertising of Full Self Driving (FSD)</li><li>ignoring safety authorities</li><li>neglecting to file documentation on time related to his purchase of Twitter’s shares</li><li>and other claims of dubious veracity</li></ul><p><b>What Will Regulators Do When the Bubble Pops?</b></p><p>Musk has positioned himself as a pop-culture icon. Though society loves to build up celebrities, so too does it love tearing them down even more. Once Tesla’s stock price falls from its overly inflated levels, Musk will lose his cover that has protected him from all his unethical and arguably illegal behavior. Regulators are likely to come after Musk with knives out after all the humiliation they had to suffer at his hand.</p><p><b>Trouble on the Horizon</b></p><p>All the hype around Musk’s large stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead for Tesla. Of course, that is likely his goal. Below we discuss the fundamentals of Tesla’s business, which cannot be wished away or made irrelevant with hype.</p><p><b>Incumbents Are Catching Up:</b> Tesla’s first-mover advantage has long been cited as reason enough for investors to pile their money into the company. However, that advantage is gone, and in some cases turning into a lag. Ford (F), Rivian (RIVN), and General Motors (GM) aim to produce EV trucks in 2022, but Tesla will be on the sidelines until at least 2023 before launching its Cybertruck.</p><p>The rising competition from incumbents means the days of Tesla’s rising profitability could be numbered. For starters, 26% of the company’s GAAP earnings in 2021 were from the sale of regulatory credits, not from the underlying economics of making and selling vehicles and other ancillary services.</p><p>Once incumbents increase production of EVs they will need to purchase fewer credits from Elon. That means Tesla needs to actually start <i>selling</i> <i>cars</i>to make money. The catch-22 is that for the company to sell more cars, it first needs to increase its production capacity. If Tesla’s succeeds in selling more cars capital expenditure and working capital are primed to grow along with sales. Tesla needs to build economies of scale before it can benefit from them.</p><p><b>Market Share Losses Continue:</b> Incumbent automakers have entered the EV market with scale and are already taking market share from Tesla. Per Figure 2, Tesla’s share of global EV sales fell from 16% in 2019 to 14% in 2021.</p><p>Tesla’s share of the U.S. EV market fell from 79% in2020to 70% in2021. With light truck sales comprising more than three out of every four vehicles sold in the U.S. in January 2022, Tesla falling behind in truck EVs means its share of the U.S. market could fall further.</p><p><b>Figure 2: Tesla’s Share of the Global EV Sales</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bc4dd16dde86e1ab31f85bd8a2af4aee\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"260\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA Market Share Since 2019(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC, EV-volumes.com and Statista</p><p><b>Slow Start to 2022:</b>Though Teslaforecastedan at least 50% YoY rise in deliveries in 2022, the company is feeling the effects of supply chain problems – just like every other automaker. The company delivered 310,000 vehicles in the quarter, while consensus estimates were for 313,000.</p><p><b>Reverse DCF Math: Valuation Implies Tesla Will Own at Least 57% of the Global Passenger EV Market</b></p><p>Despite the increased competition, failure to meet delivery expectations, and diminutive share of the global EV market in 2021, Tesla’s valuation implies the company will own 57% of the global passenger EV market in 2030.</p><p>Even if Tesla increases the average selling price (ASP) per vehicle to $55K vs. ($49K in 2021), Tesla’s stock price at ~$1,100/share implies the firm will sell 15 million vehicles in 2030 versus ~936k in 2021. That figure represents 57% of the projected base case global EV passenger vehicle market in 2030 and the implied vehicle sales based on a lower ASP looks even more unrealistic.</p><p>To provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations reflected in Tesla’s stock price, we assume Tesla achieves profit margins 1.5x Toyota Motor Corp (TM) and triples its current auto manufacturing efficiency.</p><p>Per Figure 3, an $1,100/share price implies that, in 2030, Tesla will sell the following number of vehicles based on these ASP benchmarks:</p><ul><li>15 million vehicles – ASP of $55K (above average U.S. new car price of $47K in 2021)</li><li>7 million vehicles – ASP of $49K (equal to Tesla’s 2021 ASP[1])</li><li>21 million vehicles – ASP of $38K (equal to General Motors’ ASP[2] of $38K in 2021)</li></ul><p>If Tesla achieves those EV sales, the implied market share for the company would be the following (assuming global passenger EV sales reach 26 million in 2030, the base case projection from the IEA):</p><ul><li>57% for 15 million vehicles</li><li>64% for 17 million vehicles</li><li>83% for 21 million vehicles</li></ul><p>If we assume the IEA’s best case for global passenger EV sales in 2030, 47 million vehicles, the above vehicle sales represent:</p><ul><li>31% for 15 million vehicles</li><li>35% for 17 million vehicles</li><li>45% for 21 million vehicles</li></ul><p><b>Figure 3: Tesla’s Implied Vehicle Sales in 2030 to Justify $1,100/Share</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bad84793f241565c81ebb0d29b01242c\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"284\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA DCF Implied Vehicle Production(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p><b>Tesla Must Generate More Profits Than Apple For Investors to Make Money</b></p><p>Below are the assumptions we use in our reverse discounted cash flow model to calculate the implied production levels above.</p><p>Bulls should understand what Tesla needs to accomplish to justify ~$1,100/share:</p><ul><li>immediately achieve a 14% NOPAT margin (1.5x Toyota’s margin, which is the highest of the large-scale automakers we cover), compared to Tesla’s TTM margin of 8%) and</li><li>grow revenue by 32% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.</li></ul><p>In this scenario, Tesla generates <i>$811 billion</i> in revenue in 2030, which is 116% of the combined revenues of Toyota, Stellantis (STLA), Ford, General Motors, and Honda (HMC) over the past twelve months. Tesla must replace the U.S. auto industry before 2030 to justify current valuations.</p><p>This scenario also implies Tesla grows net operating profit after-tax (NOPAT) by 2,458% from 2021 to 2030. In this scenario, Tesla generates $112 billion in NOPAT in 2030, or 12% higher than Apple’s (AAPL) TTM NOPAT, which, at $100 billion, is the highest of all companies we cover, and 65% higher than Microsoft (MSFT), the second-highest. Those companies have intertwined themselves in the lives of consumers and businesses around the world, which seems an unlikely feat for Tesla at this point.</p><p><b>TSLA Has 46% Downside If Morgan Stanley Is Right About Sales</b></p><p>If we assume Tesla reaches Morgan Stanley’s estimate of selling 8.1 million cars in 2030 (which implies a 31% share of the global passenger EV market in 2030), at an ASP of $55k, the stock is worth just $542/share. Details:</p><ul><li>NOPAT margin improves to 14% and</li><li>revenue grows 27% compounded annually over the next decade, then</li></ul><p>the stock is worth just $547/share today – a 46% downside to the current price. See the math behind this reverse DCF scenario. In this scenario, Tesla grows NOPAT to $62 billion, or nearly 14x its 2021 NOPAT, and just 7% below Alphabet’s (GOOGL) 2021 NOPAT.</p><p><b>TSLA Has 80%+ Downside Even with 27% Market Share and Realistic Margins</b></p><p>If we estimate more reasonable (but still very optimistic) margins and market share achievements for Tesla, the stock is worth just $200/share. Here’s the math:</p><ul><li>NOPAT margin improves to 9% (equal to Toyota’s TTM margin) and</li><li>revenue grows by consensus estimates from 2022 to 2024 and</li><li>revenue grows 17% a year from 2025 to 2030, then</li></ul><p>the stock is worth just $200/share today – an 80% downside to the current price.</p><p>In this scenario, Tesla sells 7 million cars (27% of the global passenger EV market in 2030) at an ASP of $47K (average new car price in U.S. in 2021) and grows NOPAT by 24% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.</p><p>We also assume a more realistic NOPAT margin of 9% in this scenario, which is 1.3x higher than Toyota’s industry-leading five-year average NOPAT margin of 7%. Given the required capital requirements to fund manufacturing and match increased competition in the EV market, Tesla is unlikely to achieve and sustain a margin as high as 9% from 2022 to 2030. If Tesla fails to meet these expectations, then the stock is worth less than $200/share.</p><p>Figure 4 compares the firm’s historical NOPAT to the NOPAT implied in the above scenarios to illustrate just how high the expectations baked into Tesla’s stock price remain. For additional context, we show Toyota’s, General Motors’, and Apple’s TTM NOPAT.</p><p><b>Figure 4: Tesla’s Historical and Implied NOPAT: DCF Valuation Scenarios</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e43f865637ac4c84e8199df2b05d061\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TSLA DCF Implied NOPAT(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p>Each of the above scenarios assumes Tesla’s invested capital grows 14% compounded annually through 2030. For reference, Tesla’s invested capital grew 49% compounded annually from 2011 to 2021 and 30% compounded annually since 2015.</p><p>An invested capital CAGR of 14% represents 1/3rdthe CAGR of Tesla’s property, plant, and equipment since 2011 and assumes the company can build future plants and produce cars 3x more efficiently than it has so far.</p><p>In other words, we aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation.</p><p><b>Tesla Won’t Be the Only One to Fall</b></p><p>Other meme stocks have taken pages from the Musk playbook and will likely suffer the same fate we expect Tesla to suffer once the game is up. GameStop (GME) promised to transform itself into an ecommerce powerhouse, yet the company continues to head in the opposite direction and earnings continue to disappoint. GameStop’s Core Earnings fell from -$200 million in fiscal 2021 to -$321 million in fiscal 2022.</p><p>Despite the company’s inability to quickly execute operational change, GameStop’s stock has remained well above a reasonable valuation thanks in part to announcing the launch of a marketplace for nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and partnerships with blockchain firms.</p><p>AMC Entertainment Holdings (AMC) has also run several Tesla-esque plays to prop up its stock. Indeed, the company’s CEO recently tweeted that the company is “playing on offense again” with its investment in a microcap gold mine. Before gold mines, the company got on the crypto bandwagon in 2021 by accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.</p><p>Beyond the repeated attempts at propping up their stocks, the fundamentally weak business models of Tesla, GameStop, and AMC Entertainment in highly competitive industries burn cash and continue to dilute shareholders whenever possible. Per Figure 5, despite combining for more than $1.1 trillion of market cap, Tesla, AMC Entertainment, and GameStop have a combined economic book value, our measure of the no growth value of a stock, of -$52 billion and -$4.3 billion of free cash flow over the past twelve months.</p><p><b>Figure 5: Meme Stock’s Market Cap, Economic Book Value &amp; FCF: TTM</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/add55782c8e6b0e8a891f84c9ec7421f\" tg-width=\"630\" tg-height=\"119\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Meme Stocks Market Cap, Economic Book Value, FCF(New Constructs, LLC)</p><p>Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filings</p><p><i>This article originally published on April 14, 2022.</i></p><p><i>Disclosure: David Trainer, Kyle Guske II, and Matt Shuler receive no compensation to write about any specific stock, sector, style, or theme.</i></p><p>[1] Tesla’s ASP = (total automotive revenues – regulatory credits) / deliveries</p><p>[2] General Motors’ ASP = Vehicle, parts and accessories / wholesale vehicle sales</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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It’s worked so well that other companies have followed his lead. But now, we think the world has seen that the emperor has no clothes. The attempted Twitter (TWTR) takeover is yet another example of Musk bullying his way into what he wants and underscores how his super-star status cannot always convince people to overlook his irreverent, reckless, and potentially illegal behavior. As the recent lawsuit againstMusk shows, he is not completely immune from the consequences of his actions. Despite recent gains, investors should consider selling Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and other meme stocks now, before institutional money bails.End of the Road for MuskMost investors are keenly aware of Musk’s long history of making grand promises that don’t come true – the Roadster, the Semi, the Cybertruck, full-self driving (FSD) etc. – and at times are blatantly unethical, such as tweeting “funding secured” to go private, and pumping Doge coin. But now, we have evidence that he may have acted illegally in the way he reported his purchases of Twitter stock. Given the clear rules about how investors should report large stakes in public companies – like what Musk has in Twitter – this case seems straightforward: Musk broke the rules.The next question is how severely he will be punished. If the past is any guide, regulators will not muster more than a slap on the wrist. The real question is how institutional investors will react to signs Musk has pushed the envelope too far.Institutional investors own Tesla stock more often because they must, given its influence on their performance, than because they see it as a good investment. Any investor with a rigorous process can see the stock is ridiculously overvalued; so, you own it for the “Musk effect”. Accordingly, the institutional investors’ decision to sell Tesla stock will be based on when Musk’s outsized influence begins to wane.We think that moment has come.Musk Meets His Maker: TwitterIn our view, Musk’s repeated rule-breaking behavior has finally gone too far. Details of the case are still emerging, but Musk’s failure to disclose his more than 5% stake in Twitter arguably hurt investors who sold shares after he crossed that ownership threshold. Instead, Musk kept purchasing shares until reaching a 9% stake in Twitter before disclosing his position. The initial class-action lawsuit and the potential for more have finally gotten the attention of investors, if not regulators.The poor reception Twitter’s employees gave the news of Musk’s stake is a very public rejection of his super-star influencer status and provide the first tangible evidence that maybe his star power has limitations. If a hostile takeover prompts a mass exodus of talent, then Musk might end up destroying the company in the process of buying it. That being said, the loudest voices in the company are not necessarily the most valuable.As more people join lawsuits against Musk, and Twitter employees continue to express their mistrust of the company’s largest shareholder, institutional investors may seize this moment to quietly unload their shares of overvalued Tesla stock. Now is the time to sell because the price of the stock to this point has been more a reflection of Musk’s ability to draw an audience than any underlying fundamental value in the company.Live by the Stunt, Die by the StuntUltimately, it appears that as much as Twitter was the launch pad for Musk’s super influence powers, his failure thus far to win the publicity battle could mark the beginning-of-the-end of his super-star status.Musk’s Twitter play, which is another in a long series of distractions, could end poorly for Musk. Instead of addressing Tesla’s issues, Musk appears to be attempting to position himself as a defender of free speech. The risk he faces is that instead of looking like a hero he looks more like a bully running an ego-driven takeover with little regard for the rules. While regulators may still be too frightened to hold Musk accountable (more on this below), a change in public opinion would be far more consequential to Musk and his empire.Tesla’s investors have not been impressed with Musk’s Twitter antics either, as the stock is down 11% since he announced his ownership in the social media giant. Likewise, the “Musk bump” in Twitter shares is likely to fade as investors realize the only value Musk brought was publicity, and not good publicity either. Although Twitter remains a popular platform, it has its own problems and suggestions such as removing a letter from its name can do more harm than good.Why Haven’t Regulators Done Anything Before Now?Tesla’s high stock price has, thus far, kept its CEO well beyond an arm’s length of regulators. Other executives in other times likely would have faced consequences for many of the things Musk has said and done. Today, Tesla’s high stock price indicates investors’ collective belief in Musk’s promises and protects Musk. Regulators don’t want to be accused of causing the company’s stock price to fall, thereby destroying the wealth of many investors and, as a result, footing the cost of defending against numerous shareholder lawsuits.Furthermore, Musk can claim Tesla’s elevated stock price and the wealth it endows is what he needs to fulfill his outlandish promises over time. However, should Tesla’s stock price ever reflect realistic expectations for the company, authorities may feel emboldened to pursue legal or regulatory action against Musk and/or Tesla. Credible claims can be made for several offenses, including:stock and cryptocurrency manipulationfalse advertising of Full Self Driving (FSD)ignoring safety authoritiesneglecting to file documentation on time related to his purchase of Twitter’s sharesand other claims of dubious veracityWhat Will Regulators Do When the Bubble Pops?Musk has positioned himself as a pop-culture icon. Though society loves to build up celebrities, so too does it love tearing them down even more. Once Tesla’s stock price falls from its overly inflated levels, Musk will lose his cover that has protected him from all his unethical and arguably illegal behavior. Regulators are likely to come after Musk with knives out after all the humiliation they had to suffer at his hand.Trouble on the HorizonAll the hype around Musk’s large stake in Twitter and the speculation around his plans for the social media platform takes focus away from the troubles, which are many, ahead for Tesla. Of course, that is likely his goal. Below we discuss the fundamentals of Tesla’s business, which cannot be wished away or made irrelevant with hype.Incumbents Are Catching Up: Tesla’s first-mover advantage has long been cited as reason enough for investors to pile their money into the company. However, that advantage is gone, and in some cases turning into a lag. Ford (F), Rivian (RIVN), and General Motors (GM) aim to produce EV trucks in 2022, but Tesla will be on the sidelines until at least 2023 before launching its Cybertruck.The rising competition from incumbents means the days of Tesla’s rising profitability could be numbered. For starters, 26% of the company’s GAAP earnings in 2021 were from the sale of regulatory credits, not from the underlying economics of making and selling vehicles and other ancillary services.Once incumbents increase production of EVs they will need to purchase fewer credits from Elon. That means Tesla needs to actually start selling carsto make money. The catch-22 is that for the company to sell more cars, it first needs to increase its production capacity. If Tesla’s succeeds in selling more cars capital expenditure and working capital are primed to grow along with sales. Tesla needs to build economies of scale before it can benefit from them.Market Share Losses Continue: Incumbent automakers have entered the EV market with scale and are already taking market share from Tesla. Per Figure 2, Tesla’s share of global EV sales fell from 16% in 2019 to 14% in 2021.Tesla’s share of the U.S. EV market fell from 79% in2020to 70% in2021. With light truck sales comprising more than three out of every four vehicles sold in the U.S. in January 2022, Tesla falling behind in truck EVs means its share of the U.S. market could fall further.Figure 2: Tesla’s Share of the Global EV SalesTSLA Market Share Since 2019(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC, EV-volumes.com and StatistaSlow Start to 2022:Though Teslaforecastedan at least 50% YoY rise in deliveries in 2022, the company is feeling the effects of supply chain problems – just like every other automaker. The company delivered 310,000 vehicles in the quarter, while consensus estimates were for 313,000.Reverse DCF Math: Valuation Implies Tesla Will Own at Least 57% of the Global Passenger EV MarketDespite the increased competition, failure to meet delivery expectations, and diminutive share of the global EV market in 2021, Tesla’s valuation implies the company will own 57% of the global passenger EV market in 2030.Even if Tesla increases the average selling price (ASP) per vehicle to $55K vs. ($49K in 2021), Tesla’s stock price at ~$1,100/share implies the firm will sell 15 million vehicles in 2030 versus ~936k in 2021. That figure represents 57% of the projected base case global EV passenger vehicle market in 2030 and the implied vehicle sales based on a lower ASP looks even more unrealistic.To provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations reflected in Tesla’s stock price, we assume Tesla achieves profit margins 1.5x Toyota Motor Corp (TM) and triples its current auto manufacturing efficiency.Per Figure 3, an $1,100/share price implies that, in 2030, Tesla will sell the following number of vehicles based on these ASP benchmarks:15 million vehicles – ASP of $55K (above average U.S. new car price of $47K in 2021)7 million vehicles – ASP of $49K (equal to Tesla’s 2021 ASP[1])21 million vehicles – ASP of $38K (equal to General Motors’ ASP[2] of $38K in 2021)If Tesla achieves those EV sales, the implied market share for the company would be the following (assuming global passenger EV sales reach 26 million in 2030, the base case projection from the IEA):57% for 15 million vehicles64% for 17 million vehicles83% for 21 million vehiclesIf we assume the IEA’s best case for global passenger EV sales in 2030, 47 million vehicles, the above vehicle sales represent:31% for 15 million vehicles35% for 17 million vehicles45% for 21 million vehiclesFigure 3: Tesla’s Implied Vehicle Sales in 2030 to Justify $1,100/ShareTSLA DCF Implied Vehicle Production(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsTesla Must Generate More Profits Than Apple For Investors to Make MoneyBelow are the assumptions we use in our reverse discounted cash flow model to calculate the implied production levels above.Bulls should understand what Tesla needs to accomplish to justify ~$1,100/share:immediately achieve a 14% NOPAT margin (1.5x Toyota’s margin, which is the highest of the large-scale automakers we cover), compared to Tesla’s TTM margin of 8%) andgrow revenue by 32% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.In this scenario, Tesla generates $811 billion in revenue in 2030, which is 116% of the combined revenues of Toyota, Stellantis (STLA), Ford, General Motors, and Honda (HMC) over the past twelve months. Tesla must replace the U.S. auto industry before 2030 to justify current valuations.This scenario also implies Tesla grows net operating profit after-tax (NOPAT) by 2,458% from 2021 to 2030. In this scenario, Tesla generates $112 billion in NOPAT in 2030, or 12% higher than Apple’s (AAPL) TTM NOPAT, which, at $100 billion, is the highest of all companies we cover, and 65% higher than Microsoft (MSFT), the second-highest. Those companies have intertwined themselves in the lives of consumers and businesses around the world, which seems an unlikely feat for Tesla at this point.TSLA Has 46% Downside If Morgan Stanley Is Right About SalesIf we assume Tesla reaches Morgan Stanley’s estimate of selling 8.1 million cars in 2030 (which implies a 31% share of the global passenger EV market in 2030), at an ASP of $55k, the stock is worth just $542/share. Details:NOPAT margin improves to 14% andrevenue grows 27% compounded annually over the next decade, thenthe stock is worth just $547/share today – a 46% downside to the current price. See the math behind this reverse DCF scenario. In this scenario, Tesla grows NOPAT to $62 billion, or nearly 14x its 2021 NOPAT, and just 7% below Alphabet’s (GOOGL) 2021 NOPAT.TSLA Has 80%+ Downside Even with 27% Market Share and Realistic MarginsIf we estimate more reasonable (but still very optimistic) margins and market share achievements for Tesla, the stock is worth just $200/share. Here’s the math:NOPAT margin improves to 9% (equal to Toyota’s TTM margin) andrevenue grows by consensus estimates from 2022 to 2024 andrevenue grows 17% a year from 2025 to 2030, thenthe stock is worth just $200/share today – an 80% downside to the current price.In this scenario, Tesla sells 7 million cars (27% of the global passenger EV market in 2030) at an ASP of $47K (average new car price in U.S. in 2021) and grows NOPAT by 24% compounded annually from 2022 to 2030.We also assume a more realistic NOPAT margin of 9% in this scenario, which is 1.3x higher than Toyota’s industry-leading five-year average NOPAT margin of 7%. Given the required capital requirements to fund manufacturing and match increased competition in the EV market, Tesla is unlikely to achieve and sustain a margin as high as 9% from 2022 to 2030. If Tesla fails to meet these expectations, then the stock is worth less than $200/share.Figure 4 compares the firm’s historical NOPAT to the NOPAT implied in the above scenarios to illustrate just how high the expectations baked into Tesla’s stock price remain. For additional context, we show Toyota’s, General Motors’, and Apple’s TTM NOPAT.Figure 4: Tesla’s Historical and Implied NOPAT: DCF Valuation ScenariosTSLA DCF Implied NOPAT(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsEach of the above scenarios assumes Tesla’s invested capital grows 14% compounded annually through 2030. For reference, Tesla’s invested capital grew 49% compounded annually from 2011 to 2021 and 30% compounded annually since 2015.An invested capital CAGR of 14% represents 1/3rdthe CAGR of Tesla’s property, plant, and equipment since 2011 and assumes the company can build future plants and produce cars 3x more efficiently than it has so far.In other words, we aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation.Tesla Won’t Be the Only One to FallOther meme stocks have taken pages from the Musk playbook and will likely suffer the same fate we expect Tesla to suffer once the game is up. GameStop (GME) promised to transform itself into an ecommerce powerhouse, yet the company continues to head in the opposite direction and earnings continue to disappoint. GameStop’s Core Earnings fell from -$200 million in fiscal 2021 to -$321 million in fiscal 2022.Despite the company’s inability to quickly execute operational change, GameStop’s stock has remained well above a reasonable valuation thanks in part to announcing the launch of a marketplace for nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and partnerships with blockchain firms.AMC Entertainment Holdings (AMC) has also run several Tesla-esque plays to prop up its stock. Indeed, the company’s CEO recently tweeted that the company is “playing on offense again” with its investment in a microcap gold mine. Before gold mines, the company got on the crypto bandwagon in 2021 by accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.Beyond the repeated attempts at propping up their stocks, the fundamentally weak business models of Tesla, GameStop, and AMC Entertainment in highly competitive industries burn cash and continue to dilute shareholders whenever possible. Per Figure 5, despite combining for more than $1.1 trillion of market cap, Tesla, AMC Entertainment, and GameStop have a combined economic book value, our measure of the no growth value of a stock, of -$52 billion and -$4.3 billion of free cash flow over the past twelve months.Figure 5: Meme Stock’s Market Cap, Economic Book Value & FCF: TTMMeme Stocks Market Cap, Economic Book Value, FCF(New Constructs, LLC)Sources: New Constructs, LLC and company filingsThis article originally published on April 14, 2022.Disclosure: David Trainer, Kyle Guske II, and Matt Shuler receive no compensation to write about any specific stock, sector, style, or theme.[1] Tesla’s ASP = (total automotive revenues – regulatory credits) / deliveries[2] General Motors’ ASP = Vehicle, parts and accessories / wholesale vehicle sales","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":117,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9970788466,"gmtCreate":1684977837355,"gmtModify":1684977840846,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>Had great value long before the AI boom","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>Had great value long before the AI boom","text":"$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ Had great value long before the AI boom","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/18c8c7939116243e38aadcd1fca73b7d","width":"696","height":"1082"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970788466","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":193,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9949554594,"gmtCreate":1678780329719,"gmtModify":1678780334534,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Most certainly never Rivian","listText":"Most certainly never Rivian","text":"Most certainly never Rivian","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9949554594","repostId":"2319981700","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2319981700","pubTimestamp":1678776378,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2319981700?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-14 14:46","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Better Buy: Tesla, or a 50/50 Split Between Nio and Rivian?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2319981700","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"The electric vehicle industry is under pressure, but there are opportunities in it for patient investors.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>The electric vehicle (EV) industry was not kind to investors in 2022. Shares of <b>Tesla</b>, <b>Nio</b>, and <b>Rivian Automotive</b> all suffered their worst calendar year performances ever -- falling by 65%, 69%, and 82%, respectively.</p><p>Even after the sell-off, Tesla has remained an EV market leader for the last few years. And the stock has been rebounding nicely in 2022. But is now the time to stick with a proven winner like Tesla or to take a leap by adding less-proven growth stocks like Nio and Rivian to your portfolio?</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> is already diversified</h2><p><b>Howard Smith (Tesla):</b> It&#39;s important to own a generally diversified portfolio, but one should also pay attention to one&#39;s diversification within sectors. The EV sector is still in an early stage of its evolution, and it&#39;s far from clear which of today&#39;s players will wind up winners and which will be losers. One winner as far as profitability goes is Tesla. However, that doesn&#39;t make it risk-free as an investment by any means. That&#39;s why it makes sense to look at adding various other EV industry names to one&#39;s portfolio.</p><p>While Nio and Rivian could both turn out to be successful, owning Tesla stock already gives one exposure to what they offer investors. Nio does business in China and is expanding to Europe. China-based <b>BYD</b> and, to a lesser extent, Tesla, already dominate China&#39;s EV market. And Tesla&#39;s German plant is ramping up production quickly to help supply Europe. The Berlin factory alone reportedly now produces 4,000 vehicles each week. For perspective, Nio only expects to deliver between 31,000 and 33,000 EVs in the entire first quarter.</p><p>Rivian began its life as a public company in the consumer light truck market -- a different EV niche than Tesla. But Tesla is about to start encroaching on Rivian&#39;s turf -- it expects to begin deliveries of its Cybertruck this year. Industry followers have estimated that there are already about 1.5 million preorders for the Cybertruck, based on a crowdsourced reservation tracker.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s business is already diversified and successful. The risk for investors now is really with the stock&#39;s valuation. After the recent recovery in its share price, its price-to-earnings ratio is up to 50. Though that is historically lower than past valuation levels for Tesla, it is still considered high relative to the rest of the stock market.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2a736247c4f85b27ea5fd034aaa82899\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>TSLA PE Ratio data by YCharts.</p><p>The company continues to grow at an accelerated rate, though. Different stocks bring different risks for investors. But buying Tesla stock is arguably less of a risk than investing in early stage EV makers that have yet to prove themselves as businesses.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a> and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RIVN\">Rivian</a> are worth a look for growth-orientated investors</h2><p><b>Daniel Foelber (Nio/Rivian):</b> 2022 was a disappointing year for Nio and Rivian as both companies suffered their largest-ever annual losses -- with Nio losing $2.2 billion and Rivian losing $6.8 billion.</p><p>Nio is forecasting a sales slowdown in March, and its fourth-quarter loss was higher than expected. Meanwhile, Rivian has $12 billion in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash on its balance sheet -- but management has said that given its high rate of cash burn, it&#39;s &#34;confident&#34; that will be enough to fund its operations through 2025. The company is already looking beyond that, however, and just announced it raised another $1.5 billion in convertible notes. It&#39;s also forecasting an adjusted EBITDA loss of $4.3 billion in 2023.</p><p>Yet Nio and Rivian are starting to emerge as two standout EV makers with serious growth potential. While Nio is tackling different price points, mainly with electric sedans and SUVs, Rivian is staking its claim on the electric pickup truck, SUV, and delivery van markets.</p><p>Both companies are banking on scaling up production to reduce losses and improve margins. And while Nio has far higher production than Rivian, Rivian is also growing faster and is forecasting its production will double in 2023 to 50,000 units.</p><p>Rivian and Nio will need to prove they can become and stay profitable. But until that happens, their price-to-sales (P/S) ratios provide a good reading on how much cheaper they have become.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/50db07e8a6d13de2cbfb149cace7cacb\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"584\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>NIO PS Ratio (Forward) data by YCharts.</p><p>Nio&#39;s forward P/S ratio of 1.3 and Rivian&#39;s ratio of 3.4 aren&#39;t as low as the metrics of legacy automakers like <b>Ford</b> or <b>General Motors</b>. But they are quite a bit lower than Tesla or their fellow EV start-up <b>Lucid Group</b>.</p><p>Moreover, their forward P/S ratios are much lower than they were a year ago, when Nio&#39;s was 4.6 and Rivian&#39;s was 23.</p><p>Tesla is by far the safer and more proven company. But Nio and Rivan have loads of growth potential and increasingly attractive risk-to-potential-reward profiles as their stock prices continue to tumble. It&#39;s a close call, but I&#39;d rather split my money 50/50 between Nio and Rivian shares than invest it in Tesla right now.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RIVN\">Rivian</a> are all worth a look</h2><p>Tesla may be the front-runner in the EV race. But its performance and growth rate will have to keep pace with the stock&#39;s valuation in order for Tesla to be a compelling buy after it started the year off as the hottest stock in the <b>S&amp;P 500</b>.</p><p>Meanwhile, Nio and Rivian&#39;s valuations have come way down, but even their current levels can only be justified by future earnings -- which neither company has proven it can produce. The EV industry remains a highly uncertain investment area, especially when there is heightened potential for the U.S. to enter a recession and/or a period of slowing demand. The decision of which is the better place to put your money -- into Tesla, or splitting it between Nio and Rivian -- will come down to your risk tolerance and time horizon.</p><p>An investor can always avoid early stage uncertainty simply by waiting for an investment thesis to play out further, but that increases one&#39;s risk of having to pay a higher price for a stock down the road. On the other hand, buying a stock when uncertainty is high presents a greater potential for stronger returns, but also more risk.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Better Buy: Tesla, or a 50/50 Split Between Nio and Rivian?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBetter Buy: Tesla, or a 50/50 Split Between Nio and Rivian?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-14 14:46 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/13/better-buy-tesla-split-of-nio-and-rivian-ev-stock/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The electric vehicle (EV) industry was not kind to investors in 2022. Shares of Tesla, Nio, and Rivian Automotive all suffered their worst calendar year performances ever -- falling by 65%, 69%, and ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/13/better-buy-tesla-split-of-nio-and-rivian-ev-stock/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","TSLA":"特斯拉","RIVN":"Rivian Automotive, Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/03/13/better-buy-tesla-split-of-nio-and-rivian-ev-stock/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2319981700","content_text":"The electric vehicle (EV) industry was not kind to investors in 2022. Shares of Tesla, Nio, and Rivian Automotive all suffered their worst calendar year performances ever -- falling by 65%, 69%, and 82%, respectively.Even after the sell-off, Tesla has remained an EV market leader for the last few years. And the stock has been rebounding nicely in 2022. But is now the time to stick with a proven winner like Tesla or to take a leap by adding less-proven growth stocks like Nio and Rivian to your portfolio?Tesla is already diversifiedHoward Smith (Tesla): It's important to own a generally diversified portfolio, but one should also pay attention to one's diversification within sectors. The EV sector is still in an early stage of its evolution, and it's far from clear which of today's players will wind up winners and which will be losers. One winner as far as profitability goes is Tesla. However, that doesn't make it risk-free as an investment by any means. That's why it makes sense to look at adding various other EV industry names to one's portfolio.While Nio and Rivian could both turn out to be successful, owning Tesla stock already gives one exposure to what they offer investors. Nio does business in China and is expanding to Europe. China-based BYD and, to a lesser extent, Tesla, already dominate China's EV market. And Tesla's German plant is ramping up production quickly to help supply Europe. The Berlin factory alone reportedly now produces 4,000 vehicles each week. For perspective, Nio only expects to deliver between 31,000 and 33,000 EVs in the entire first quarter.Rivian began its life as a public company in the consumer light truck market -- a different EV niche than Tesla. But Tesla is about to start encroaching on Rivian's turf -- it expects to begin deliveries of its Cybertruck this year. Industry followers have estimated that there are already about 1.5 million preorders for the Cybertruck, based on a crowdsourced reservation tracker.Tesla's business is already diversified and successful. The risk for investors now is really with the stock's valuation. After the recent recovery in its share price, its price-to-earnings ratio is up to 50. Though that is historically lower than past valuation levels for Tesla, it is still considered high relative to the rest of the stock market.TSLA PE Ratio data by YCharts.The company continues to grow at an accelerated rate, though. Different stocks bring different risks for investors. But buying Tesla stock is arguably less of a risk than investing in early stage EV makers that have yet to prove themselves as businesses.Nio and Rivian are worth a look for growth-orientated investorsDaniel Foelber (Nio/Rivian): 2022 was a disappointing year for Nio and Rivian as both companies suffered their largest-ever annual losses -- with Nio losing $2.2 billion and Rivian losing $6.8 billion.Nio is forecasting a sales slowdown in March, and its fourth-quarter loss was higher than expected. Meanwhile, Rivian has $12 billion in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash on its balance sheet -- but management has said that given its high rate of cash burn, it's \"confident\" that will be enough to fund its operations through 2025. The company is already looking beyond that, however, and just announced it raised another $1.5 billion in convertible notes. It's also forecasting an adjusted EBITDA loss of $4.3 billion in 2023.Yet Nio and Rivian are starting to emerge as two standout EV makers with serious growth potential. While Nio is tackling different price points, mainly with electric sedans and SUVs, Rivian is staking its claim on the electric pickup truck, SUV, and delivery van markets.Both companies are banking on scaling up production to reduce losses and improve margins. And while Nio has far higher production than Rivian, Rivian is also growing faster and is forecasting its production will double in 2023 to 50,000 units.Rivian and Nio will need to prove they can become and stay profitable. But until that happens, their price-to-sales (P/S) ratios provide a good reading on how much cheaper they have become.NIO PS Ratio (Forward) data by YCharts.Nio's forward P/S ratio of 1.3 and Rivian's ratio of 3.4 aren't as low as the metrics of legacy automakers like Ford or General Motors. But they are quite a bit lower than Tesla or their fellow EV start-up Lucid Group.Moreover, their forward P/S ratios are much lower than they were a year ago, when Nio's was 4.6 and Rivian's was 23.Tesla is by far the safer and more proven company. But Nio and Rivan have loads of growth potential and increasingly attractive risk-to-potential-reward profiles as their stock prices continue to tumble. It's a close call, but I'd rather split my money 50/50 between Nio and Rivian shares than invest it in Tesla right now.Tesla, Nio, and Rivian are all worth a lookTesla may be the front-runner in the EV race. But its performance and growth rate will have to keep pace with the stock's valuation in order for Tesla to be a compelling buy after it started the year off as the hottest stock in the S&P 500.Meanwhile, Nio and Rivian's valuations have come way down, but even their current levels can only be justified by future earnings -- which neither company has proven it can produce. The EV industry remains a highly uncertain investment area, especially when there is heightened potential for the U.S. to enter a recession and/or a period of slowing demand. The decision of which is the better place to put your money -- into Tesla, or splitting it between Nio and Rivian -- will come down to your risk tolerance and time horizon.An investor can always avoid early stage uncertainty simply by waiting for an investment thesis to play out further, but that increases one's risk of having to pay a higher price for a stock down the road. On the other hand, buying a stock when uncertainty is high presents a greater potential for stronger returns, but also more risk.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":98,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":163184546,"gmtCreate":1623862814285,"gmtModify":1703821935935,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Cool","listText":"Cool","text":"Cool","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/163184546","repostId":"2143978737","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2143978737","pubTimestamp":1623857100,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2143978737?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-16 23:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Facebook's Hardware Business Is Creeping Into Apple's Backyard","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2143978737","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"But Apple shouldn't lose any sleep over Facebook's smartwatch plans.","content":"<p><b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FB\">Facebook</a></b> (NASDAQ:FB) could be developing a smartwatch with two cameras, according to The Verge. The camera on the front will likely be used for video calls, while the rear camera can be detached to capture photos and videos for Facebook's family of apps.</p>\n<p>Facebook is also reportedly in talks with companies to develop accessories for attaching the camera to backpacks and other objects. Previous rumors regarding the watch suggested it will sport health-tracking features, run on a stand-alone cellular connection, and use a custom version of the Android operating system. Could this long-rumored device help Facebook challenge <b>Apple</b> (NASDAQ:AAPL) in the smartwatch market?</p>\n<h2>Why is Facebook developing a smartwatch?</h2>\n<p>Facebook generated 97% of its revenue from ads last quarter. The remaining 3% came from its \"other\" businesses, which include its Oculus virtual reality (VR) headsets and Portal smart screens. It might initially seem odd for Facebook to add a smartwatch to that lineup, but it would actually complement its previous hardware strategies.</p>\n<p>Facebook's strongest hardware business is its lineup of Oculus VR headsets. It could ship at least three million Oculus Quest 2 headsets this year, according to SuperData. That would make the stand-alone VR headset, which doesn't require a PC or phone, the clear leader of its niche market.</p>\n<p>Looking beyond VR devices, Facebook is developing augmented reality (AR) glasses that will use similar controls as its Oculus headsets. It also acquired CTRL-Labs, which is developing a wristband that can use brain signals to control computers, in late 2019. In theory, CTRL-Labs' technology could eventually enable users to control VR and AR devices with \"mind-reading\" wristbands instead of controllers in the future.</p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Facebook's Portal devices haven't gained much momentum against <b>Amazon</b> (NASDAQ:AMZN) or <b>Alphabet</b>'s (NASDAQ:GOOGL) (NASDAQ:GOOG) Google in the smart screen market. That failure likely dashed Facebook's hopes of expanding its social networking platforms beyond PCs and phones and into connected homes.</p>\n<p>When you put all those pieces together, you'll realize Facebook's smartwatch could be used to enhance control of its VR and AR devices, or to expand its social networks into the Internet of Things (IoT) and perhaps succeed where the Portal failed. Facebook could also eventually upgrade its watches with CTRL-Labs' technologies and enable users to control other IoT devices with their minds.</p>\n<h2>But let's not get ahead of ourselves... yet</h2>\n<p>Facebook has reportedly spent about $1 billion on the development of its smartwatch over the past few years, but it only initially plans to ship volumes in the low six figures.</p>\n<p>That would make Facebook a tiny smartwatch maker compared to <b>Apple</b> (NASDAQ:AAPL), which grew its Apple Watch shipments 19% to 33.9 million in 2020, according to Counterpoint Research. Apple ended the year with a whopping 40% share of the global smartwatch market.</p>\n<p>Facebook likely realizes its smartwatch will face the same three problems that plagued the Portal: a deep distrust of Facebook's brand, privacy concerns, and its late arrival into a saturated market. Google also encountered similar criticisms after its recent takeover of Fitbit.</p>\n<p>Facebook reportedly plans to launch its smartwatch next summer for about $400. But a lot could happen within the next year, and new smartwatches -- including a new version of the Apple Watch -- could easily steal Facebook's thunder. A smartwatch with two cameras could also be considered complicated and redundant, especially when smartphones and action cameras serve the same purposes.</p>\n<h2>The key takeaways</h2>\n<p>The global smartwatch market could still grow from $59 billion this year to nearly $100 billion in 2025, according to Research and Markets. That's great news for Apple, but it also suggests the market might still be big enough for newcomers like Facebook to gain a foothold.</p>\n<p>But investors should take all these rumors with a grain of salt until Facebook actually makes an official announcement. Even if Facebook's smartwatch fares better than the Portal, it probably won't generate a meaningful percentage of its revenue or reduce its overall dependence on ads.</p>\n<p>Instead, it should be considered a potential expansion of its ecosystem beyond PCs and phones, which might just complement its ongoing push into the virtual and augmented reality markets.</p>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Facebook's Hardware Business Is Creeping Into Apple's Backyard</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nFacebook's Hardware Business Is Creeping Into Apple's Backyard\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-16 23:25 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/16/facebooks-hardware-business-is-creeping-into-apple/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Facebook (NASDAQ:FB) could be developing a smartwatch with two cameras, according to The Verge. The camera on the front will likely be used for video calls, while the rear camera can be detached to ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/16/facebooks-hardware-business-is-creeping-into-apple/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"03086":"华夏纳指","09086":"华夏纳指-U","AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/16/facebooks-hardware-business-is-creeping-into-apple/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2143978737","content_text":"Facebook (NASDAQ:FB) could be developing a smartwatch with two cameras, according to The Verge. The camera on the front will likely be used for video calls, while the rear camera can be detached to capture photos and videos for Facebook's family of apps.\nFacebook is also reportedly in talks with companies to develop accessories for attaching the camera to backpacks and other objects. Previous rumors regarding the watch suggested it will sport health-tracking features, run on a stand-alone cellular connection, and use a custom version of the Android operating system. Could this long-rumored device help Facebook challenge Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) in the smartwatch market?\nWhy is Facebook developing a smartwatch?\nFacebook generated 97% of its revenue from ads last quarter. The remaining 3% came from its \"other\" businesses, which include its Oculus virtual reality (VR) headsets and Portal smart screens. It might initially seem odd for Facebook to add a smartwatch to that lineup, but it would actually complement its previous hardware strategies.\nFacebook's strongest hardware business is its lineup of Oculus VR headsets. It could ship at least three million Oculus Quest 2 headsets this year, according to SuperData. That would make the stand-alone VR headset, which doesn't require a PC or phone, the clear leader of its niche market.\nLooking beyond VR devices, Facebook is developing augmented reality (AR) glasses that will use similar controls as its Oculus headsets. It also acquired CTRL-Labs, which is developing a wristband that can use brain signals to control computers, in late 2019. In theory, CTRL-Labs' technology could eventually enable users to control VR and AR devices with \"mind-reading\" wristbands instead of controllers in the future.\nMeanwhile, Facebook's Portal devices haven't gained much momentum against Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) or Alphabet's (NASDAQ:GOOGL) (NASDAQ:GOOG) Google in the smart screen market. That failure likely dashed Facebook's hopes of expanding its social networking platforms beyond PCs and phones and into connected homes.\nWhen you put all those pieces together, you'll realize Facebook's smartwatch could be used to enhance control of its VR and AR devices, or to expand its social networks into the Internet of Things (IoT) and perhaps succeed where the Portal failed. Facebook could also eventually upgrade its watches with CTRL-Labs' technologies and enable users to control other IoT devices with their minds.\nBut let's not get ahead of ourselves... yet\nFacebook has reportedly spent about $1 billion on the development of its smartwatch over the past few years, but it only initially plans to ship volumes in the low six figures.\nThat would make Facebook a tiny smartwatch maker compared to Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL), which grew its Apple Watch shipments 19% to 33.9 million in 2020, according to Counterpoint Research. Apple ended the year with a whopping 40% share of the global smartwatch market.\nFacebook likely realizes its smartwatch will face the same three problems that plagued the Portal: a deep distrust of Facebook's brand, privacy concerns, and its late arrival into a saturated market. Google also encountered similar criticisms after its recent takeover of Fitbit.\nFacebook reportedly plans to launch its smartwatch next summer for about $400. But a lot could happen within the next year, and new smartwatches -- including a new version of the Apple Watch -- could easily steal Facebook's thunder. A smartwatch with two cameras could also be considered complicated and redundant, especially when smartphones and action cameras serve the same purposes.\nThe key takeaways\nThe global smartwatch market could still grow from $59 billion this year to nearly $100 billion in 2025, according to Research and Markets. That's great news for Apple, but it also suggests the market might still be big enough for newcomers like Facebook to gain a foothold.\nBut investors should take all these rumors with a grain of salt until Facebook actually makes an official announcement. Even if Facebook's smartwatch fares better than the Portal, it probably won't generate a meaningful percentage of its revenue or reduce its overall dependence on ads.\nInstead, it should be considered a potential expansion of its ecosystem beyond PCs and phones, which might just complement its ongoing push into the virtual and augmented reality markets.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":158,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":354579755208992,"gmtCreate":1727575414186,"gmtModify":1727575415407,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT\">$UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT$</a>&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT\">$UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT$</a>&nbsp;","text":"$UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT$","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/468b2e236e31989afab84906575f2b54","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/354579755208992","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":92,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":354579703742624,"gmtCreate":1727575401362,"gmtModify":1727575404251,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT\">$UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT$</a>&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT\">$UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT$</a>&nbsp;","text":"$UPRO 20241004 60.0 PUT$","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/468b2e236e31989afab84906575f2b54","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/354579703742624","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":95,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":335173650853952,"gmtCreate":1722859347394,"gmtModify":1722859350457,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/TSLA 20240816 240.0 PUT\">$TSLA 20240816 240.0 PUT$</a>&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/TSLA 20240816 240.0 PUT\">$TSLA 20240816 240.0 PUT$</a>&nbsp;","text":"$TSLA 20240816 240.0 PUT$","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9fb793d25517282b6adce27149ce89df","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/335173650853952","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":175,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":185410098245728,"gmtCreate":1686305413393,"gmtModify":1686305417148,"author":{"id":"3574198952102405","authorId":"3574198952102405","name":"Matt xw","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574198952102405","authorIdStr":"3574198952102405"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just horrible&nbsp;","listText":"Just horrible&nbsp;","text":"Just horrible","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/185410098245728","repostId":"1179628858","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1179628858","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1686305126,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1179628858?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-09 18:05","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"NIO's Q1 Revenues Were $1,554.6 Million; 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Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted loss from operations (non-GAAP) was RMB4,522.4 million (US$658.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.6% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 24.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Net loss</strong> was RMB4,739.5 million (US$690.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 165.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) was RMB 4,150.1 million (US$604.3 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 216.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders</strong> was RMB4,803.6 million (US$699.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.2% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 17.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses and accretion on redeemable non-controlling interests to redemption value, adjusted net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders (non-GAAP) was RMB4,141.8 million (US$603.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 222.3% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.0% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Basic and diluted net loss per ordinary share/American Depositary Share (ADS)iii</strong> were both RMB2.91 (US$0.42) in the first quarter of 2023, compared with RMB1.12 in the first quarter of 2022 and RMB3.55 in the fourth quarter of 2022. 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Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted loss from operations (non-GAAP) was RMB4,522.4 million (US$658.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.6% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 24.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Net loss</strong> was RMB4,739.5 million (US$690.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 165.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) was RMB 4,150.1 million (US$604.3 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 216.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders</strong> was RMB4,803.6 million (US$699.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.2% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 17.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses and accretion on redeemable non-controlling interests to redemption value, adjusted net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders (non-GAAP) was RMB4,141.8 million (US$603.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 222.3% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.0% from the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><strong>Basic and diluted net loss per ordinary share/American Depositary Share (ADS)iii</strong> were both RMB2.91 (US$0.42) in the first quarter of 2023, compared with RMB1.12 in the first quarter of 2022 and RMB3.55 in the fourth quarter of 2022. 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Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted loss from operations (non-GAAP) was RMB4,522.4 million (US$658.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.6% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 24.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022.Net loss was RMB4,739.5 million (US$690.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 165.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses, adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) was RMB 4,150.1 million (US$604.3 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 216.9% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.1% from the fourth quarter of 2022.Net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders was RMB4,803.6 million (US$699.5 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 163.2% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 17.8% from the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding share-based compensation expenses and accretion on redeemable non-controlling interests to redemption value, adjusted net loss attributable to NIO’s ordinary shareholders (non-GAAP) was RMB4,141.8 million (US$603.1 million) in the first quarter of 2023, representing an increase of 222.3% from the first quarter of 2022 and a decrease of 18.0% from the fourth quarter of 2022.Basic and diluted net loss per ordinary share/American Depositary Share (ADS)iii were both RMB2.91 (US$0.42) in the first quarter of 2023, compared with RMB1.12 in the first quarter of 2022 and RMB3.55 in the fourth quarter of 2022. 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[LOL] [LOL]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9979008731","repostId":"1190064044","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1190064044","pubTimestamp":1685084925,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1190064044?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-26 15:08","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Nvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1190064044","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earningsThe gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losse","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><p>Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earnings</p></li><li><p>The gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losses to $8.1 billion</p></li></ul><p>Traders betting against Nvidia Corp. suffered massive losses as the chipmaker’s stock surged to a record high after it forecasts sales that far surpassed the average analyst estimate. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Short sellers are facing $2.3 billion in paper losses on Thursday alone amid the tech giant’s 27% intraday jump, data from S3 Partners LLC show. That’s pushed mark-to-market losses for the contrarian traders to $8.1 billion in 2023 as Nvidia’s price has more than doubled this year.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2d91cc61f132f208717fd09413fd9307\" tg-width=\"661\" tg-height=\"446\"/></p><p>To be sure, many short sellers have dumped their positions in the chipmaker amid its record rally. In the last 30 days, the number of shares shorted decreased nearly 11%, signaling that traders are covering their positions at a loss. So far this year, total shares shorted are down roughly 23%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Still, Nvidia’s notional short interest value — the amount of money short sellers have bet on the stock’s decline — is more than $9 billion. That makes Nvidia the fourth most-shorted stock in the US, behind only <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">Apple Inc.</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Inc.</a> and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft Corp</a>. </p><p>Nvidia has been one of the biggest beneficiaries from the growing craze surrounding artificial intelligence, and there could be more pain ahead for short sellers if Nvidia’s winning streak continues as many on Wall Street believe it will. The stock currently has 47 buy ratings, 10 holds and no sells with an average price target of $429, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Our expectations for NVDA’s future revenues are lifting substantially,” Wedbush analyst Matt Bryson wrote in a note upgrading Nvidia to outperform from neutral. He pushed his price target to $490, implying an additional roughly 29% in upside for shares from Wednesday’s close.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNvidia Short Sellers Lose $2.3 Billion in One Day as Stock Soars\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-05-26 15:08 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-25/nvidia-short-sellers-lose-2-3-billion-in-one-day-as-stock-soars><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earningsThe gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losses to $8.1 billionTraders betting against Nvidia Corp. suffered massive losses as the chipmaker’s ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-25/nvidia-short-sellers-lose-2-3-billion-in-one-day-as-stock-soars\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NVDA":"英伟达"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-25/nvidia-short-sellers-lose-2-3-billion-in-one-day-as-stock-soars","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1190064044","content_text":"Nvidia shares jumped to an all-time high after earningsThe gain pushed short seller 2023 paper losses to $8.1 billionTraders betting against Nvidia Corp. suffered massive losses as the chipmaker’s stock surged to a record high after it forecasts sales that far surpassed the average analyst estimate. Short sellers are facing $2.3 billion in paper losses on Thursday alone amid the tech giant’s 27% intraday jump, data from S3 Partners LLC show. That’s pushed mark-to-market losses for the contrarian traders to $8.1 billion in 2023 as Nvidia’s price has more than doubled this year.To be sure, many short sellers have dumped their positions in the chipmaker amid its record rally. In the last 30 days, the number of shares shorted decreased nearly 11%, signaling that traders are covering their positions at a loss. So far this year, total shares shorted are down roughly 23%.Still, Nvidia’s notional short interest value — the amount of money short sellers have bet on the stock’s decline — is more than $9 billion. That makes Nvidia the fourth most-shorted stock in the US, behind only Apple Inc., Tesla Inc. and Microsoft Corp. Nvidia has been one of the biggest beneficiaries from the growing craze surrounding artificial intelligence, and there could be more pain ahead for short sellers if Nvidia’s winning streak continues as many on Wall Street believe it will. The stock currently has 47 buy ratings, 10 holds and no sells with an average price target of $429, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. “Our expectations for NVDA’s future revenues are lifting substantially,” Wedbush analyst Matt Bryson wrote in a note upgrading Nvidia to outperform from neutral. He pushed his price target to $490, implying an additional roughly 29% in upside for shares from Wednesday’s close.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":162,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}