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2023-10-31

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ Bottomed today at 190ish, we will close above 200 today and run up to 350.

2023-07-03

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ This is just the beginning. Easily a 1 trillion Company. Expecting share price to be 5,000 by 2025. 👍🏻😊

2023-06-07

1000 is a matter of time

PLTR Stock Alert: Palantir Announces Amazon Launch

2023-04-04

Total Crap

Tesla Obviously Had A Disappointing Quarter, Expect More Pain

2023-03-09

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

2023-02-02

Wrong

1 Thing Tesla Bulls Get Wrong, and Why It Might Tank the Stock

2022-12-08

FUD! China Nov sales is a record please...

Tesla's China Sales Drop Sequentially to 62,493 Vehicles: CPCA Report

2022-11-08

Software update la, FUD. What recall, recall what?

Tesla Recalls 40,000 U.S. Vehicles Over Potential Loss of Power Steering Assist

2022-10-19

$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$Fake head, hertz deal secured

2022-10-19

$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$

2022-10-07

$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$

2022-10-07

500

@Kaspar:$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

2022-10-07

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

2022-10-03

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

2022-10-03

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Now

2022-09-30

AllIn a day

2022-09-28

Nice

@Jasonsparrow:$特斯拉(TSLA)$

2022-09-28

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

2022-09-27

Good

@Singman:$Coupang, Inc.(CPNG)$sigh

2022-09-27

$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$

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Amazon is also up slightly this morning.PLTR Stock: Is This AI?Palantir has made its money in government contracts, especially for the military. Typical is a recent five-year, $463 million contract with the U.S. Special Operations command. The contract envisions Palantir software being used to reduce the mental load of commanders and soldiers in war. It’s the renewal of an existing contract, but at $20 million more per year, indicating the military is satisfied with the software’s performance.Palantir’s military work also gives it a strategic relationship with Microsoft. But the agreement with Amazon will help manufacturers, with Amazon pitching Palantir’s Foundry as part of its “industrial data fabric.”What Happens Next?Palantir stock has been on fire since reporting earnings of $17 million, or 1 cent per share, on revenue of $525 million on May 8. 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That should cause Tesla&#39;s margins to decline, hurting the company&#39;s profits.</p></li><li><p>Regardless of the company&#39;s margins, it&#39;s already severely overvalued in a variety of margins, making it a poor investment.</p></li></ul><p>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ: TSLA) stock dropped more than 6% Monday after the company&#39;s recent press release once again raised concerns that additional price cuts are in the future. That&#39;s despite the company&#39;s strong 25.9% gross margins, which investors point to as evidence of the company&#39;s financial strength and unique pricing power.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla&#39;s Q1 2023 Deliveries</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla achieved strong deliveries in the first quarter. However, the company produced more than it delivered.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f89508063ee9dc35033f4fd24a35b9a6\" alt=\"Tesla Press Release\" title=\"Tesla Press Release\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\"/><span>Tesla Press Release</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Tesla Press Release</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The company produced just under 441 thousand vehicles in the first quarter and managed to deliver about 95% of them. QoQ Model S/X, the company&#39;s high-end vehicle, saw production only drop 5%, but deliveries crumpled by almost 40%. That shows a lack of demand for the company&#39;s top-end vehicles, especially with price cuts.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">We expect Model S/X deliveries and demand to remain muted as high-margin competition arrives first through new companies such as Rivian (RIVN), Polestar (PSNY), and Lucid (LCID) along with established companies like BMW (OTCPK: BMWYY) and Mercedes (OTCPK: MBGAF). That lines up with our expectation that Tesla would see competition first at the top end of its portfolio, the same place that Tesla was able to start.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla&#39;s Pricing Cuts</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The top story for Tesla has been the company&#39;s continued price cuts on its vehicles.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9cf899accf0819a015e8201c816249ca\" alt=\"USA Today\" title=\"USA Today\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"209\"/><span>USA Today</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>USA Today</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla cut the prices of its vehicles by as much as 20% in January, and in March it cut the prices of its Model S and X between 4-9%. The company has record margins, but the more it needs to cut prices, the more that it cuts into those margins. Unfortunately for Tesla, even if it&#39;s better than the competition, new competition lowers margins.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">That can be seen in classic carmakers. Toyota (TM) and Honda (HMC) are widely considered to have the best reliability, and yet they don&#39;t dominate the entire market. There&#39;s other competition and pricing pressure. That&#39;s worth paying close attention to as an investor.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla&#39;s Rising Competition</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla is facing rising competition from its market share even as vehicle production goes up.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1cba9cabe9bbaa012d768e578318aea6\" alt=\"Inside EVs\" title=\"Inside EVs\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"235\"/><span>Inside EVs</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Inside EVs</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla&#39;s registrations went up 34% YoY as the U.S. market faced more competition versus last year. Significant U.S. competition also caused the market to grow slower than the global markets. The company now has a 57% market share, with its second-largest competitor Chevrolet (GM) having an 8.5% share and Ford having a 7.7% share.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">We expect the company&#39;s competition to continue increasing its share. Rivian, for example, increased its market share by almost 300% YoY. It&#39;s also worth noting that Tesla likely saw an uptick in demand from its price increases, an uptick in demand that we don&#39;t expect to continue.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">2023 - A Tesla Transition Year</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">2023 is a transition year for Tesla. The company&#39;s competitors have come up with their models, and they&#39;re working to rapidly ramp up production.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Rivian expects to produce 50 thousand vehicles in 2023, double 2022. Ford (F) plans to exit 2023 at more than 360 thousand vehicles/year in production, up from just under 62 thousand in 2022. Lucid is aiming to produce 12 thousand vehicles in 2023. Polestar is aiming to hit 80 thousand vehicles in 2023, up from 50 thousand in 2022.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">BMW is looking to triple its EV production in 2023 to almost 50 thousand vehicles. Each of these vehicles, especially on the upper end, will push down Tesla&#39;s margins substantially. That could hurt its ability to justify its valuations. Assuming its margins drop, that could crater its share price, by showing the market how overvalued the company is.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">At the same time, Tesla&#39;s other businesses aren&#39;t anywhere exciting yet. The company&#39;s solar business has a negligible market share, and it&#39;s to-date nowhere near releasing full self-driving. The company&#39;s most exciting business is the megapack, but it needs those battery packs for its own vehicles and its margins on the megapack are lower.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Our View</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla is overvalued.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">In 2022, the company had $81 billion in revenue, $20 billion in gross profit, and $12.5 billion in net income. The company has a market capitalization of more than $600 billion. That&#39;s a P/E of 50 on net income, or 30 on gross profits. The company did manage to grow profits 50% YoY but as we discussed above we expect margins to drop.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">That could hurt the company&#39;s ability to justify its valuation substantially and cause its share price to decline.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Thesis Risk</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The largest risk to our thesis is Tesla&#39;s value as an independent brand. Assuming the company remains popular, and demand remains high, higher margins could result in higher profits. Even in that case, we don&#39;t see the company managing to justify its valuation. However, it&#39;s worth paying close attention to.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Conclusion</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla, Inc. is dramatically overvalued. The company is trading at 8x sales and 50x net income. The company is supported by its strong margins, but new competition is rapidly ramping up its production, with most companies expecting to double to triple production in 2023. At a minimum, that will put strong pressure on margins.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">We expect that pressure on margins to cause Tesla, Inc.&#39;s profits to drop substantially. That&#39;s even when counting the company&#39;s 50% annualized anticipated production growth. We expect the company&#39;s market share to continue to decline. As a result, we recommend against investing in Tesla, Inc. stock for the long run.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Obviously Had A Disappointing Quarter, Expect More Pain</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Obviously Had A Disappointing Quarter, Expect More Pain\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-04-04 22:24 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4592157-tesla-obviously-had-disappointing-quarter-expect-more-pain><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla grew production and sales, but it appears that the company needs to maintain price cuts to grow.The company is rapidly seeing increased competition from both new companies at the top end ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4592157-tesla-obviously-had-disappointing-quarter-expect-more-pain\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4592157-tesla-obviously-had-disappointing-quarter-expect-more-pain","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1143129882","content_text":"SummaryTesla grew production and sales, but it appears that the company needs to maintain price cuts to grow.The company is rapidly seeing increased competition from both new companies at the top end and existing car companies ramping up production.We see 2023 as a transition year, as other companies ramp up their production. That should cause Tesla's margins to decline, hurting the company's profits.Regardless of the company's margins, it's already severely overvalued in a variety of margins, making it a poor investment.Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ: TSLA) stock dropped more than 6% Monday after the company's recent press release once again raised concerns that additional price cuts are in the future. That's despite the company's strong 25.9% gross margins, which investors point to as evidence of the company's financial strength and unique pricing power.Tesla's Q1 2023 DeliveriesTesla achieved strong deliveries in the first quarter. However, the company produced more than it delivered.Tesla Press ReleaseTesla Press ReleaseThe company produced just under 441 thousand vehicles in the first quarter and managed to deliver about 95% of them. QoQ Model S/X, the company's high-end vehicle, saw production only drop 5%, but deliveries crumpled by almost 40%. That shows a lack of demand for the company's top-end vehicles, especially with price cuts.We expect Model S/X deliveries and demand to remain muted as high-margin competition arrives first through new companies such as Rivian (RIVN), Polestar (PSNY), and Lucid (LCID) along with established companies like BMW (OTCPK: BMWYY) and Mercedes (OTCPK: MBGAF). That lines up with our expectation that Tesla would see competition first at the top end of its portfolio, the same place that Tesla was able to start.Tesla's Pricing CutsThe top story for Tesla has been the company's continued price cuts on its vehicles.USA TodayUSA TodayTesla cut the prices of its vehicles by as much as 20% in January, and in March it cut the prices of its Model S and X between 4-9%. The company has record margins, but the more it needs to cut prices, the more that it cuts into those margins. Unfortunately for Tesla, even if it's better than the competition, new competition lowers margins.That can be seen in classic carmakers. Toyota (TM) and Honda (HMC) are widely considered to have the best reliability, and yet they don't dominate the entire market. There's other competition and pricing pressure. That's worth paying close attention to as an investor.Tesla's Rising CompetitionTesla is facing rising competition from its market share even as vehicle production goes up.Inside EVsInside EVsTesla's registrations went up 34% YoY as the U.S. market faced more competition versus last year. Significant U.S. competition also caused the market to grow slower than the global markets. The company now has a 57% market share, with its second-largest competitor Chevrolet (GM) having an 8.5% share and Ford having a 7.7% share.We expect the company's competition to continue increasing its share. Rivian, for example, increased its market share by almost 300% YoY. It's also worth noting that Tesla likely saw an uptick in demand from its price increases, an uptick in demand that we don't expect to continue.2023 - A Tesla Transition Year2023 is a transition year for Tesla. The company's competitors have come up with their models, and they're working to rapidly ramp up production.Rivian expects to produce 50 thousand vehicles in 2023, double 2022. Ford (F) plans to exit 2023 at more than 360 thousand vehicles/year in production, up from just under 62 thousand in 2022. Lucid is aiming to produce 12 thousand vehicles in 2023. Polestar is aiming to hit 80 thousand vehicles in 2023, up from 50 thousand in 2022.BMW is looking to triple its EV production in 2023 to almost 50 thousand vehicles. Each of these vehicles, especially on the upper end, will push down Tesla's margins substantially. That could hurt its ability to justify its valuations. Assuming its margins drop, that could crater its share price, by showing the market how overvalued the company is.At the same time, Tesla's other businesses aren't anywhere exciting yet. The company's solar business has a negligible market share, and it's to-date nowhere near releasing full self-driving. The company's most exciting business is the megapack, but it needs those battery packs for its own vehicles and its margins on the megapack are lower.Our ViewTesla is overvalued.In 2022, the company had $81 billion in revenue, $20 billion in gross profit, and $12.5 billion in net income. The company has a market capitalization of more than $600 billion. That's a P/E of 50 on net income, or 30 on gross profits. The company did manage to grow profits 50% YoY but as we discussed above we expect margins to drop.That could hurt the company's ability to justify its valuation substantially and cause its share price to decline.Thesis RiskThe largest risk to our thesis is Tesla's value as an independent brand. Assuming the company remains popular, and demand remains high, higher margins could result in higher profits. Even in that case, we don't see the company managing to justify its valuation. However, it's worth paying close attention to.ConclusionTesla, Inc. is dramatically overvalued. The company is trading at 8x sales and 50x net income. The company is supported by its strong margins, but new competition is rapidly ramping up its production, with most companies expecting to double to triple production in 2023. At a minimum, that will put strong pressure on margins.We expect that pressure on margins to cause Tesla, Inc.'s profits to drop substantially. That's even when counting the company's 50% annualized anticipated production growth. We expect the company's market share to continue to decline. As a result, we recommend against investing in Tesla, Inc. stock for the long run.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":203,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9949330526,"gmtCreate":1678351065166,"gmtModify":1678351068346,"author":{"id":"3578739292709085","authorId":"3578739292709085","name":"EdLien","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b4d85e297c27dc8237d9c6b5d0690f81","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/20bef1b376728c741bd96ee9a1a12927","width":"1284","height":"2538"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9949330526","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":180,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9955884535,"gmtCreate":1675337493527,"gmtModify":1676538994247,"author":{"id":"3578739292709085","authorId":"3578739292709085","name":"EdLien","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b4d85e297c27dc8237d9c6b5d0690f81","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Wrong","listText":"Wrong","text":"Wrong","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9955884535","repostId":"2308403758","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2308403758","pubTimestamp":1675337124,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2308403758?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2023-02-02 19:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"1 Thing Tesla Bulls Get Wrong, and Why It Might Tank the Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2308403758","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"A focus on production growth misses the big picture.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Electric vehicle (EV) pioneer <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> had a rough 2022. After it grew into one of the world&#39;s largest companies in 2021 with a market cap of over $1 trillion, its value fell by more than 50% last year. But the downtrend in the stock has started to reverse rapidly in the first month of 2023. After Tesla reported solid fourth-quarter earnings on Jan. 25 and offered an optimistic outlook, its stock popped more than 20% over the next two trading days.</p><p>Shares are now up by about 40% year to date, and the automaker is back to a market cap of more than $500 billion.</p><p>Tesla is projecting its EV production will grow yet again in 2023. But that doesn&#39;t mean the stock is a buy. Here&#39;s what Tesla bulls are missing that could tank the stock in 2023.</p><h2>Q4: No big surprises</h2><p>Tesla reported solid if unsurprising Q4 results. Revenue came in at $24.3 billion, up 37% year over year. Net income grew at an even larger 59% to $3.7 billion. The company has rapidly scaled its manufacturing over the past few years and started putting up impressive profit margins for an automaker.</p><p>For all of 2022, Tesla&#39;s net income was $12.6 billion on $81.5 billion in revenue, giving it a net income margin of 15.4%. This is much higher than its automotive peers, a key reason why investors have bid up the stock. Tesla has achieved these strong margins by spending less on research and development than its competitors do, and by charging premium prices for most of its vehicles.</p><p>Tesla is forecasting that it will manufacture 1.8 million vehicles in 2023, up from 1.37 million in 2022, but CEO Elon Musk said on the Q4 conference call with analysts that production could reach 2 million if there aren&#39;t any major hiccups. Many investors cheered this news. But this doesn&#39;t solve Tesla&#39;s major issue at the moment: maintaining demand for its vehicles while pricing them profitably.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ca407cedfe5c9a8b0642650f463e17a\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"449\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>TSLA Net Income (TTM) data by YCharts.</p><h2>All signs point to margin compression</h2><p>Restricted supply across the automotive market in 2021 and early 2022 enabled Tesla to raise its prices significantly, which led to margin expansion. The company also benefited from older contracts on commodity inputs like lithium, nickel, and cobalt, which allowed it to buy them at lower prices.</p><p>Now, all these factors that powered rapid margin expansion are starting to unravel. Since the August peak, the price of a used Tesla has started to plummet and currently sits at around $51,000. This, in turn, has hurt demand for new Tesla vehicles at higher prices, and the company lowered the cost of cars across its fleet by 5% to 20% in early January to spur demand. The company is also dealing with soaring input prices, with commodities like lithium up significantly in the last few years. Tesla just signed a new lithium contract, which includes market-based pricing, that should start showing up on its income statement within the next few quarters, and not in a good way.</p><p>On top of decreasing selling prices and rising commodity costs, Tesla is likely getting squeezed by growth in average hourly wages across the U.S. Add up all these factors and Tesla&#39;s profit margins are likely headed much lower. You can already see it in the company&#39;s gross margin, which fell to 25.9% in Q4 compared to its peak of 32.9% in Q1 2022. This will only continue after its latest price cuts. If gross margins decline closer to 20%, it will be almost impossible for the company to maintain a 15% net income margin.</p><p>Profit margins are much more important than production growth. If Tesla continues on this margin compression path, its earnings will be much lower in 2023 than they were in 2022.</p><h2>The stock is wildly overvalued</h2><p>Tesla is guiding for production of 1.8 million vehicles in 2023, up about 30% from 2022. It is unlikely that the company will be able to raise prices on new vehicles because of declining used car prices -- lower used car prices almost always force a manufacturer to lower new car prices -- and new price cuts from competitors. With selling prices 10% to 20% lower, this production growth could still lead to Tesla&#39;s revenue going from $80 billion last year to $100 billion this year. Good news, right? Well, not exactly.</p><p>If Tesla&#39;s net margin declines to around 10% in 2023 -- and all signs point to that being likely, given lower car prices and higher input costs -- that would give it $10 billion in earnings on $100 billion in annual revenue, which would be lower than the $12.6 billion in earnings it generated in 2022.</p><p>At a market cap of $550 billion (roughly where the stock is now), $10 billion in net income would give Tesla&#39;s stock a price-to-earnings ratio of 55 -- almost triple the current market average. Declining earnings and a price-to-earnings ratio of 55 look like a recipe for disastrous stock returns, especially for more mature businesses like Tesla. The average automotive company trades at a P/E ratio below 10. If Tesla fails to grow its earnings at a high rate as it has in the past, there is major downside for shareholders as the stock will likely start trading in line with competitors.</p><p>Unless Musk can pull another rabbit out of his hat, Tesla&#39;s stock looks to be in a precarious spot right now, regardless of how fast its production grows in 2023.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>1 Thing Tesla Bulls Get Wrong, and Why It Might Tank the Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n1 Thing Tesla Bulls Get Wrong, and Why It Might Tank the Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-02-02 19:25 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/02/01/1-thing-tesla-bulls-get-wrong-and-why-it-might-tan/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Electric vehicle (EV) pioneer Tesla had a rough 2022. After it grew into one of the world's largest companies in 2021 with a market cap of over $1 trillion, its value fell by more than 50% last year. ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/02/01/1-thing-tesla-bulls-get-wrong-and-why-it-might-tan/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/02/01/1-thing-tesla-bulls-get-wrong-and-why-it-might-tan/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2308403758","content_text":"Electric vehicle (EV) pioneer Tesla had a rough 2022. After it grew into one of the world's largest companies in 2021 with a market cap of over $1 trillion, its value fell by more than 50% last year. But the downtrend in the stock has started to reverse rapidly in the first month of 2023. After Tesla reported solid fourth-quarter earnings on Jan. 25 and offered an optimistic outlook, its stock popped more than 20% over the next two trading days.Shares are now up by about 40% year to date, and the automaker is back to a market cap of more than $500 billion.Tesla is projecting its EV production will grow yet again in 2023. But that doesn't mean the stock is a buy. Here's what Tesla bulls are missing that could tank the stock in 2023.Q4: No big surprisesTesla reported solid if unsurprising Q4 results. Revenue came in at $24.3 billion, up 37% year over year. Net income grew at an even larger 59% to $3.7 billion. The company has rapidly scaled its manufacturing over the past few years and started putting up impressive profit margins for an automaker.For all of 2022, Tesla's net income was $12.6 billion on $81.5 billion in revenue, giving it a net income margin of 15.4%. This is much higher than its automotive peers, a key reason why investors have bid up the stock. Tesla has achieved these strong margins by spending less on research and development than its competitors do, and by charging premium prices for most of its vehicles.Tesla is forecasting that it will manufacture 1.8 million vehicles in 2023, up from 1.37 million in 2022, but CEO Elon Musk said on the Q4 conference call with analysts that production could reach 2 million if there aren't any major hiccups. Many investors cheered this news. But this doesn't solve Tesla's major issue at the moment: maintaining demand for its vehicles while pricing them profitably.TSLA Net Income (TTM) data by YCharts.All signs point to margin compressionRestricted supply across the automotive market in 2021 and early 2022 enabled Tesla to raise its prices significantly, which led to margin expansion. The company also benefited from older contracts on commodity inputs like lithium, nickel, and cobalt, which allowed it to buy them at lower prices.Now, all these factors that powered rapid margin expansion are starting to unravel. Since the August peak, the price of a used Tesla has started to plummet and currently sits at around $51,000. This, in turn, has hurt demand for new Tesla vehicles at higher prices, and the company lowered the cost of cars across its fleet by 5% to 20% in early January to spur demand. The company is also dealing with soaring input prices, with commodities like lithium up significantly in the last few years. Tesla just signed a new lithium contract, which includes market-based pricing, that should start showing up on its income statement within the next few quarters, and not in a good way.On top of decreasing selling prices and rising commodity costs, Tesla is likely getting squeezed by growth in average hourly wages across the U.S. Add up all these factors and Tesla's profit margins are likely headed much lower. You can already see it in the company's gross margin, which fell to 25.9% in Q4 compared to its peak of 32.9% in Q1 2022. This will only continue after its latest price cuts. If gross margins decline closer to 20%, it will be almost impossible for the company to maintain a 15% net income margin.Profit margins are much more important than production growth. If Tesla continues on this margin compression path, its earnings will be much lower in 2023 than they were in 2022.The stock is wildly overvaluedTesla is guiding for production of 1.8 million vehicles in 2023, up about 30% from 2022. It is unlikely that the company will be able to raise prices on new vehicles because of declining used car prices -- lower used car prices almost always force a manufacturer to lower new car prices -- and new price cuts from competitors. With selling prices 10% to 20% lower, this production growth could still lead to Tesla's revenue going from $80 billion last year to $100 billion this year. Good news, right? Well, not exactly.If Tesla's net margin declines to around 10% in 2023 -- and all signs point to that being likely, given lower car prices and higher input costs -- that would give it $10 billion in earnings on $100 billion in annual revenue, which would be lower than the $12.6 billion in earnings it generated in 2022.At a market cap of $550 billion (roughly where the stock is now), $10 billion in net income would give Tesla's stock a price-to-earnings ratio of 55 -- almost triple the current market average. Declining earnings and a price-to-earnings ratio of 55 look like a recipe for disastrous stock returns, especially for more mature businesses like Tesla. The average automotive company trades at a P/E ratio below 10. If Tesla fails to grow its earnings at a high rate as it has in the past, there is major downside for shareholders as the stock will likely start trading in line with competitors.Unless Musk can pull another rabbit out of his hat, Tesla's stock looks to be in a precarious spot right now, regardless of how fast its production grows in 2023.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":163,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9920210766,"gmtCreate":1670500188455,"gmtModify":1676538380753,"author":{"id":"3578739292709085","authorId":"3578739292709085","name":"EdLien","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b4d85e297c27dc8237d9c6b5d0690f81","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"FUD! China Nov sales is a record please...","listText":"FUD! China Nov sales is a record please...","text":"FUD! 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The stock also has a Seeking Alpha Quant rating of Hold, with the lowest factor grades given to valuation and momentum.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":270,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9987201907,"gmtCreate":1667910124910,"gmtModify":1676537983081,"author":{"id":"3578739292709085","authorId":"3578739292709085","name":"EdLien","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b4d85e297c27dc8237d9c6b5d0690f81","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Software update la, FUD. What recall, recall what?","listText":"Software update la, FUD. What recall, recall what?","text":"Software update la, FUD. 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