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Not sure if the home fitness trend will continue
Should You Buy Peloton Stock: What To Consider
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safety issues.</li>\n <li>Peloton's revenue jumped by +128% YoY to $1,065 million in 2Q FY 2021, which beat market expectations, but its slowing revenue growth momentum led to its share price declining post-results.</li>\n <li>I like Peloton as a business because it has a strong following and offers a compelling value proposition, but the company also has no lack of competitors.</li>\n <li>But Peloton is not as attractive as an investment due to its rather rich valuations.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b9a7cebe129367e4549d92aecef0d75\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\"><span>Photo by Maridav/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Elevator Pitch</b></p>\n<p>I assign a Neutral rating to Peloton Interactive, Inc.(NASDAQ:PTON).</p>\n<p>Peloton's share price is down -29% year-to-date, due to concerns over normalization of demand post-COVID, delays in product delivery, and product safety issues. Peloton's revenue jumped by +128% YoY to $1,065 million in 2Q FY 2021 (YE June 30) which beat market expectations, but its slowing revenue growth momentum (versus +232% YoY revenue growth in 1Q FY 2021) led to its share price declining by -6% post-results.</p>\n<p>I like Peloton as a business because it has a strong following and offers a compelling value proposition, but the company also has no lack of competitors. Furthermore, Peloton is not as attractive as an investment due to its rather rich valuations. Peloton trades at consensus forward FY 2021 Enterprise Value-to-Revenue and EV/EBITDA multiples of 7.3 times and 91.8 times. These numbers will be more reasonable if PTON is a SaaS (Software-as-a-Service) company, but Peloton still derives over 80% of its revenue from product sales as opposed to digital subscriptions. As a result, I see Peloton Interactive, Inc's shares as a HOLD.</p>\n<p><b>Company Description</b></p>\n<p>Established in 2012 and listed on the NASDAQ in September 2020, Peloton Interactive, Inc.calls itself \"the largest interactive fitness platform in the world\" in the company's 2Q FY 2021 10-Q. Peloton has over 4.4 million members as of end-2020 (calendar year), and \"any individual who has a Peloton account through a paid Connected Fitness subscription, or a paid Peloton Digital subscription\" is counted as a member.</p>\n<p>PTON derived 81% and 19% of its 1H FY 2021 revenue from Connected Fitness product sales (e.g. its Bike and Tread products) and subscription fees (for both Connected Fitness and Peloton Digital subscriptions), respectively. With regards to earnings contribution, the Connected Fitness products and the subscription business accounted for 72% and 18% of Peloton's top line in the first half of fiscal 2021. In terms of geographical sales mix, Peloton generated 95% of the company's 1H FY 2021 sales from North America, with other international markets contributing the remaining 5% of its revenue over the same period.</p>\n<p><b>Why Did Peloton Stock Drop?</b></p>\n<p>2020 was a great year for Peloton Interactive, Inc in terms of stock price performance, as the company's share price surged by +434% from $28.40 as of December 31, 2019 to $151.72 as of December 31, 2020. The same can't be said of 2021, as PTON's last traded price of $107.75 as of April 19, 2021 represents a year-to-date decline of -29%.</p>\n<p>Peloton's stock price has dropped significantly in 2021 year-to-date for a number of reasons.</p>\n<p>Firstly, investors are concerned that Work-From-Home or WFH tailwinds for Peloton will ease once the coronavirus pandemic wanes. Peloton has been a key beneficiary of an increasing number of people working and exercising at home due to COVID-19, but there is no certainty that such trends will persist post-pandemic. Based on data from <i>Bloomberg's COVID Vaccine Tracker</i>, 25.7% of the US population has already been fully vaccinated, while 39.9% of the people in the country have at least been administrated a single dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.</p>\n<p>In other words, the market is worried about more people returning to offices and exercising at gyms again and its impact on PTON's future performance. In response, Peloton stressed at the JMP Securities Technology Conference on March 1, 2021 that exercising at home \"is a trend that's here to stay\" and \"COVID just accelerated that trend.\" The company also added that \"people have found a way not only to replicate exercising outside of the home, but enjoy it more and perhaps are doing even more than they were even pre-pandemic\", based on its analysis of members' data.</p>\n<p>Nevertheless, it remains a significant unknown as to how consumers' behaviors will change and evolve post-pandemic.</p>\n<p>Secondly, Peloton has faced challenges in converting all of the consumer demand for its Connected Fitness products into actual sales.</p>\n<p>At the company's 2Q FY 2021 results briefing on February 4, 2021, Peloton acknowledged that \"our delivery wait times remain elevated.\" It also highlighted that \"West Coast port delays and COVID-related delivery challenges\" resulted in longer-than-expected \"order to delivery wait times\" and \"forced us to reschedule many deliveries.\"</p>\n<p>But Peloton is actively trying to address these issues. On April 1, 2021, Peloton disclosed that it had completed the acquisition of Precor, which it refers to as \"one of the largest global commercial fitness equipment providers with a significant U.S. manufacturing presence.\" This should help to ease Peloton's production capacity issues. Also, Peloton has also committed to an additional investment of $100 million with the aim of restoring delivery wait times to normalized levels by end of FY 2021 (June 30, 2022) at the latest.</p>\n<p>The key concerns here are that this could result in significant customer dissatisfaction and also lead investors to turn to other alternative options such as going back to the gyms (if possible) or buying other competing home fitness products.</p>\n<p>Thirdly, Peloton's stock price has been affected by product safety issues raised by the Consumer Product Safety Commission or CPSC.</p>\n<p>The CSPC published a press release on April 17, 2021 \"warning consumers about the danger of popular Peloton Tread+ exercise machine after multiple incidents of small children and a pet being injured beneath the machines.\" Peloton has responded with a media release of its own on the same day, stating that the CSPC press release is \"inaccurate and misleading\". The company also emphasized that \"there is no reason to stop using the Tread+, as long as all warnings and safety instructions are followed.\"</p>\n<p>Peloton's share price fell by -7% from $116.21 as of April 16, 2021 to $107.75 as of April 19, 2021 following CSPC's press release and Peloton's response. The company has an incredible brand and a strong following as evidenced by some of its fans having Peloton tattoos, so it might take more than a warning from the CSPC to hurt its future sales. However, it is worth following the developments relating to this matter on product safety issues to evaluate any potential damage to Peloton's brand.</p>\n<p>In a nutshell, the most important issue for long-term investors in Peloton is how consumers' attitudes towards home fitness & exercise will change post-COVID, which will affect the company's future growth runway. On the other hand, product delivery bottlenecks should be resolved in time to come, while the product safety concerns could blow over soon as well.</p>\n<p><b>How Is Peloton Doing Financially?</b></p>\n<p>Peloton Interactive, Inc reported its most recent 2Q FY 2021 financial results (October 1, 2020 to December 31, 2020 period) on February 4, 2021. The company's financial performance in the second quarter of the current fiscal year was above market expectations.</p>\n<p>PTON's revenue rose by +128% YoY from $466 million in 2Q FY 2020 to $1,065 million in 2Q FY 2021, which was approximately +3% better that what Wall Street had expected. This was driven by a +124% YoY increase in Connected Fitness product sales and a +153% YoY growth in subscription revenue. The company also reversed from a net loss per share of -$0.20 in 2Q FY 2020 to a positive earnings per share of $0.18 in 2Q FY 2021. This was more than double the sell-side analysts' quarterly consensus earnings estimate of $0.08 per share.</p>\n<p>However, Peloton's share price declined by -6% from $157.53 as of February 4, 2021 to $148.30 as of February 5, 2021 post-results. The company's stock price subsequently dropped to a year-to-date low of $101.35 on March 8, 2021. This suggests that Peloton's financial performance might not be as good as what it appears on paper, if one delves deeper.</p>\n<p>Notably, Peloton's YoY revenue growth narrowed significantly from +232% YoY in 1Q FY 2021 and +172% YoY in 4Q FY 2020 to +128% in 2Q FY 2021. PTON is guiding for $1.10 billion in revenue for 3Q FY 2021, which translates to a top line growth of +110% YoY in the next quarter. This could be attributable to both product delivery issues and demand normalization (highlighted earlier), but there is no escaping the fact that Peloton's revenue growth is slowing.</p>\n<p>In terms of operating metrics, it is noteworthy that the average workouts per month per subscribers for PTON has stabilized at 20.7 and 21.1 for 1Q FY 2021 and 2Q FY 2021 respectively. In comparison, Peloton's average workouts per month per subscribers jumped from 17.7 in 3Q FY 2020 to 24.7 in 4Q FY 2020. This could be another sign that home fitness demand is starting to normalize.</p>\n<p><b>PTON Stock Analysis</b></p>\n<p>There are a number of things that investors should like about Peloton Interactive, Inc as a business.</p>\n<p>One key characteristic of PTON's business is that the company has an amazing brand. As I indicated earlier, some of Peloton's followers even have the brand's logo tattooed on their bodies, which is the clearest indication of Peloton's brand equity. Also, consulting firm<i>Prophet</i>namedPeloton as the second most relevant brand in the US in 2021 based ona survey of approximately 13,000 consumers. Peloton only ranked behind Apple(NASDAQ:AAPL), and it beat other household brands like Lego, Costco(NASDAQ:COST)and Amazon(NASDAQ:AMZN). Prophet's studyhighlightsthat PTON \"earns the highest score for 'connects with me emotionally' via \"its online communities and its constantly expanding variety of workouts available live and prerecorded.\"</p>\n<p>Another key characteristic of Peloton's business is that it offers a compelling value proposition for consumers. A Connected Fitness subscription costs $39 per month, and the company's Connected Fitness products like bikes are priced at around a few thousand dollars ($1,895for flagship bike product) which can be paid in installments and used by all the people living together. In other words, the all-in cost of working out at home by using PTON's products and services are much cheaper than an annual individual gym membership subscription. In addition, an April 9, 2021<i>Wall Street Journal</i>articlecited Credit Suisse sell-side research which suggested that \"the monthly cost\" of \"a Peloton bike with a digital membership\" for a couple is \"87% below the cost\" of \"10 SoulCycle classes a month.\" Notably, Peloton's Average Net Monthly Connected Fitness Churncalculated as\"cancellations, net of reactivations\" divided by the number of Connected Fitness subscriptions was below 1% for both FY 2020 and FY 2019.</p>\n<p>Moving forward, Peloton has a long growth runway ahead, considering its multiple growth drivers.</p>\n<p>One growth driver is new products and cross-selling. It is telling that only3%of Peloton's Connected Fitness' subscribers have both Bike and Tread products from the company. PTONobservedat the recent earnings call that there has been a \"continued mix shift to (the new) Tread products\" andmentionedat the JMP Securities Technology Conference that \"two-product households\" are \"more engaged than people who had have 1 piece of equipment.\" Looking ahead, it is likely that Peloton can increase the proportion of its subscribers who have bought both the Bike and Tread products, and such \"two-product households\" could also be interested in more fitness courses and programs offered by the company leading to higher subscription revenue as well.</p>\n<p>Another key growth driver is potential synergies associated with the acquisition of Precor highlighted above. Although Peloton has a significant US consumer presence, it is not as strong in commercial and international markets, and Precor could help to fill in the gap. In the company's earlier press release announcing the Precor acquisition, Pelotonnotednew growth opportunities in channels like \"hotels, multifamily residences, and college and corporate campuses.\" Also, while Peloton generated 95% of its 1H FY 2021 revenue from North America as highlighted earlier, Precor hasa presencein \"90 countries around the world.\" PTON has already expanded into the UK and Canada, but there is a lot of room for further overseas expansion.</p>\n<p>On the flip side, the huge growth potential of the home fitness market inevitably attracts competition. One key competitor isMirrorreferred to as an \"interactive smart gym\" enabled by \"advanced camera technology and machine learning\", The Mirror is , which Lululemon(NASDAQ:LULU)acquired inmid-2020. Another one of Peloton's key competitors isTonal, which calls itself \"an all-in-one machine\" combining \"fitness and strength training with patented digital weight, machine learning, and expert coaching.\" Tonal has raised$450 millionin cumulative funding since its launch, and one of its notable investors include Amazon’s Alexa Fund.</p>\n<p>While I acknowledge that Peloton has a strong brand, the competitive landscape in the home fitness industry is still relatively unsettled. The market is growing, and one can't rule out more new entrants. More importantly, customer switching costs (i.e. a few thousand dollars for the Connected Fitness products) might not be sufficient to prevent consumers from switching to new products and other alternatives.</p>\n<p><b>Should You Buy Peloton Stock?</b></p>\n<p>I see Peloton stock as a HOLD, rather than a BUY. While Peloton is a good company, it is not a good investment as it stands now. PTON's valuations are rather rich, considering that the company still generates more than 80% of its sales from products, rather than digital subscriptions.</p>\n<p>The market values Peloton at 7.3 times consensus forward FY 2021 Enterprise Value-to-Revenue and 5.3 times consensus forward FY 2022 Enterprise Value-to-Revenue. The stock also trades at consensus forward FY 2021 and FY 2022 EV/EBITDA multiples of 91.8 times and 50.9 times, respectively.</p>\n<p>None of Peloton's direct peers are listed on a stand-alone basis, which makes peer valuation comparison challenging. PTON is much more expensive than its fitness peers based on forward EV/EBITDA multiples, although there is a significant divergence in Enterprise Value-to-Revenue ratios for the peer group.</p>\n<p><b>Peloton's Peer Valuation Comparison</b></p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6f8be3d26f74a213f2aad2297c197307\" tg-width=\"904\" tg-height=\"605\"><span>Source: Author</span></p>\n<p>I have sourced the consensus numbers referenced in this article from S&P Capital IQ.</p>\n<p>Peloton's key risk factors are a more significant normalization of home fitness demand post-COVID than earlier anticipated, further negative news flow relating to product safety issues, and stiffer-than-expected competition from rivals in the home fitness industry.</p>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Should You Buy Peloton Stock: What To Consider</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Peloton's revenue jumped by +128% YoY to $1,065 million in 2Q FY 2021 (YE June 30) which beat market expectations, but its slowing revenue growth momentum (versus +232% YoY revenue growth in 1Q FY 2021) led to its share price declining by -6% post-results.\nI like Peloton as a business because it has a strong following and offers a compelling value proposition, but the company also has no lack of competitors. Furthermore, Peloton is not as attractive as an investment due to its rather rich valuations. Peloton trades at consensus forward FY 2021 Enterprise Value-to-Revenue and EV/EBITDA multiples of 7.3 times and 91.8 times. These numbers will be more reasonable if PTON is a SaaS (Software-as-a-Service) company, but Peloton still derives over 80% of its revenue from product sales as opposed to digital subscriptions. As a result, I see Peloton Interactive, Inc's shares as a HOLD.\nCompany Description\nEstablished in 2012 and listed on the NASDAQ in September 2020, Peloton Interactive, Inc.calls itself \"the largest interactive fitness platform in the world\" in the company's 2Q FY 2021 10-Q. Peloton has over 4.4 million members as of end-2020 (calendar year), and \"any individual who has a Peloton account through a paid Connected Fitness subscription, or a paid Peloton Digital subscription\" is counted as a member.\nPTON derived 81% and 19% of its 1H FY 2021 revenue from Connected Fitness product sales (e.g. its Bike and Tread products) and subscription fees (for both Connected Fitness and Peloton Digital subscriptions), respectively. With regards to earnings contribution, the Connected Fitness products and the subscription business accounted for 72% and 18% of Peloton's top line in the first half of fiscal 2021. In terms of geographical sales mix, Peloton generated 95% of the company's 1H FY 2021 sales from North America, with other international markets contributing the remaining 5% of its revenue over the same period.\nWhy Did Peloton Stock Drop?\n2020 was a great year for Peloton Interactive, Inc in terms of stock price performance, as the company's share price surged by +434% from $28.40 as of December 31, 2019 to $151.72 as of December 31, 2020. The same can't be said of 2021, as PTON's last traded price of $107.75 as of April 19, 2021 represents a year-to-date decline of -29%.\nPeloton's stock price has dropped significantly in 2021 year-to-date for a number of reasons.\nFirstly, investors are concerned that Work-From-Home or WFH tailwinds for Peloton will ease once the coronavirus pandemic wanes. Peloton has been a key beneficiary of an increasing number of people working and exercising at home due to COVID-19, but there is no certainty that such trends will persist post-pandemic. Based on data from Bloomberg's COVID Vaccine Tracker, 25.7% of the US population has already been fully vaccinated, while 39.9% of the people in the country have at least been administrated a single dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.\nIn other words, the market is worried about more people returning to offices and exercising at gyms again and its impact on PTON's future performance. In response, Peloton stressed at the JMP Securities Technology Conference on March 1, 2021 that exercising at home \"is a trend that's here to stay\" and \"COVID just accelerated that trend.\" The company also added that \"people have found a way not only to replicate exercising outside of the home, but enjoy it more and perhaps are doing even more than they were even pre-pandemic\", based on its analysis of members' data.\nNevertheless, it remains a significant unknown as to how consumers' behaviors will change and evolve post-pandemic.\nSecondly, Peloton has faced challenges in converting all of the consumer demand for its Connected Fitness products into actual sales.\nAt the company's 2Q FY 2021 results briefing on February 4, 2021, Peloton acknowledged that \"our delivery wait times remain elevated.\" It also highlighted that \"West Coast port delays and COVID-related delivery challenges\" resulted in longer-than-expected \"order to delivery wait times\" and \"forced us to reschedule many deliveries.\"\nBut Peloton is actively trying to address these issues. On April 1, 2021, Peloton disclosed that it had completed the acquisition of Precor, which it refers to as \"one of the largest global commercial fitness equipment providers with a significant U.S. manufacturing presence.\" This should help to ease Peloton's production capacity issues. Also, Peloton has also committed to an additional investment of $100 million with the aim of restoring delivery wait times to normalized levels by end of FY 2021 (June 30, 2022) at the latest.\nThe key concerns here are that this could result in significant customer dissatisfaction and also lead investors to turn to other alternative options such as going back to the gyms (if possible) or buying other competing home fitness products.\nThirdly, Peloton's stock price has been affected by product safety issues raised by the Consumer Product Safety Commission or CPSC.\nThe CSPC published a press release on April 17, 2021 \"warning consumers about the danger of popular Peloton Tread+ exercise machine after multiple incidents of small children and a pet being injured beneath the machines.\" Peloton has responded with a media release of its own on the same day, stating that the CSPC press release is \"inaccurate and misleading\". The company also emphasized that \"there is no reason to stop using the Tread+, as long as all warnings and safety instructions are followed.\"\nPeloton's share price fell by -7% from $116.21 as of April 16, 2021 to $107.75 as of April 19, 2021 following CSPC's press release and Peloton's response. The company has an incredible brand and a strong following as evidenced by some of its fans having Peloton tattoos, so it might take more than a warning from the CSPC to hurt its future sales. However, it is worth following the developments relating to this matter on product safety issues to evaluate any potential damage to Peloton's brand.\nIn a nutshell, the most important issue for long-term investors in Peloton is how consumers' attitudes towards home fitness & exercise will change post-COVID, which will affect the company's future growth runway. On the other hand, product delivery bottlenecks should be resolved in time to come, while the product safety concerns could blow over soon as well.\nHow Is Peloton Doing Financially?\nPeloton Interactive, Inc reported its most recent 2Q FY 2021 financial results (October 1, 2020 to December 31, 2020 period) on February 4, 2021. The company's financial performance in the second quarter of the current fiscal year was above market expectations.\nPTON's revenue rose by +128% YoY from $466 million in 2Q FY 2020 to $1,065 million in 2Q FY 2021, which was approximately +3% better that what Wall Street had expected. This was driven by a +124% YoY increase in Connected Fitness product sales and a +153% YoY growth in subscription revenue. The company also reversed from a net loss per share of -$0.20 in 2Q FY 2020 to a positive earnings per share of $0.18 in 2Q FY 2021. This was more than double the sell-side analysts' quarterly consensus earnings estimate of $0.08 per share.\nHowever, Peloton's share price declined by -6% from $157.53 as of February 4, 2021 to $148.30 as of February 5, 2021 post-results. The company's stock price subsequently dropped to a year-to-date low of $101.35 on March 8, 2021. This suggests that Peloton's financial performance might not be as good as what it appears on paper, if one delves deeper.\nNotably, Peloton's YoY revenue growth narrowed significantly from +232% YoY in 1Q FY 2021 and +172% YoY in 4Q FY 2020 to +128% in 2Q FY 2021. PTON is guiding for $1.10 billion in revenue for 3Q FY 2021, which translates to a top line growth of +110% YoY in the next quarter. This could be attributable to both product delivery issues and demand normalization (highlighted earlier), but there is no escaping the fact that Peloton's revenue growth is slowing.\nIn terms of operating metrics, it is noteworthy that the average workouts per month per subscribers for PTON has stabilized at 20.7 and 21.1 for 1Q FY 2021 and 2Q FY 2021 respectively. In comparison, Peloton's average workouts per month per subscribers jumped from 17.7 in 3Q FY 2020 to 24.7 in 4Q FY 2020. This could be another sign that home fitness demand is starting to normalize.\nPTON Stock Analysis\nThere are a number of things that investors should like about Peloton Interactive, Inc as a business.\nOne key characteristic of PTON's business is that the company has an amazing brand. As I indicated earlier, some of Peloton's followers even have the brand's logo tattooed on their bodies, which is the clearest indication of Peloton's brand equity. Also, consulting firmProphetnamedPeloton as the second most relevant brand in the US in 2021 based ona survey of approximately 13,000 consumers. Peloton only ranked behind Apple(NASDAQ:AAPL), and it beat other household brands like Lego, Costco(NASDAQ:COST)and Amazon(NASDAQ:AMZN). Prophet's studyhighlightsthat PTON \"earns the highest score for 'connects with me emotionally' via \"its online communities and its constantly expanding variety of workouts available live and prerecorded.\"\nAnother key characteristic of Peloton's business is that it offers a compelling value proposition for consumers. A Connected Fitness subscription costs $39 per month, and the company's Connected Fitness products like bikes are priced at around a few thousand dollars ($1,895for flagship bike product) which can be paid in installments and used by all the people living together. In other words, the all-in cost of working out at home by using PTON's products and services are much cheaper than an annual individual gym membership subscription. In addition, an April 9, 2021Wall Street Journalarticlecited Credit Suisse sell-side research which suggested that \"the monthly cost\" of \"a Peloton bike with a digital membership\" for a couple is \"87% below the cost\" of \"10 SoulCycle classes a month.\" Notably, Peloton's Average Net Monthly Connected Fitness Churncalculated as\"cancellations, net of reactivations\" divided by the number of Connected Fitness subscriptions was below 1% for both FY 2020 and FY 2019.\nMoving forward, Peloton has a long growth runway ahead, considering its multiple growth drivers.\nOne growth driver is new products and cross-selling. It is telling that only3%of Peloton's Connected Fitness' subscribers have both Bike and Tread products from the company. PTONobservedat the recent earnings call that there has been a \"continued mix shift to (the new) Tread products\" andmentionedat the JMP Securities Technology Conference that \"two-product households\" are \"more engaged than people who had have 1 piece of equipment.\" Looking ahead, it is likely that Peloton can increase the proportion of its subscribers who have bought both the Bike and Tread products, and such \"two-product households\" could also be interested in more fitness courses and programs offered by the company leading to higher subscription revenue as well.\nAnother key growth driver is potential synergies associated with the acquisition of Precor highlighted above. Although Peloton has a significant US consumer presence, it is not as strong in commercial and international markets, and Precor could help to fill in the gap. In the company's earlier press release announcing the Precor acquisition, Pelotonnotednew growth opportunities in channels like \"hotels, multifamily residences, and college and corporate campuses.\" Also, while Peloton generated 95% of its 1H FY 2021 revenue from North America as highlighted earlier, Precor hasa presencein \"90 countries around the world.\" PTON has already expanded into the UK and Canada, but there is a lot of room for further overseas expansion.\nOn the flip side, the huge growth potential of the home fitness market inevitably attracts competition. One key competitor isMirrorreferred to as an \"interactive smart gym\" enabled by \"advanced camera technology and machine learning\", The Mirror is , which Lululemon(NASDAQ:LULU)acquired inmid-2020. Another one of Peloton's key competitors isTonal, which calls itself \"an all-in-one machine\" combining \"fitness and strength training with patented digital weight, machine learning, and expert coaching.\" Tonal has raised$450 millionin cumulative funding since its launch, and one of its notable investors include Amazon’s Alexa Fund.\nWhile I acknowledge that Peloton has a strong brand, the competitive landscape in the home fitness industry is still relatively unsettled. The market is growing, and one can't rule out more new entrants. More importantly, customer switching costs (i.e. a few thousand dollars for the Connected Fitness products) might not be sufficient to prevent consumers from switching to new products and other alternatives.\nShould You Buy Peloton Stock?\nI see Peloton stock as a HOLD, rather than a BUY. While Peloton is a good company, it is not a good investment as it stands now. PTON's valuations are rather rich, considering that the company still generates more than 80% of its sales from products, rather than digital subscriptions.\nThe market values Peloton at 7.3 times consensus forward FY 2021 Enterprise Value-to-Revenue and 5.3 times consensus forward FY 2022 Enterprise Value-to-Revenue. The stock also trades at consensus forward FY 2021 and FY 2022 EV/EBITDA multiples of 91.8 times and 50.9 times, respectively.\nNone of Peloton's direct peers are listed on a stand-alone basis, which makes peer valuation comparison challenging. PTON is much more expensive than its fitness peers based on forward EV/EBITDA multiples, although there is a significant divergence in Enterprise Value-to-Revenue ratios for the peer group.\nPeloton's Peer Valuation Comparison\nSource: Author\nI have sourced the consensus numbers referenced in this article from S&P Capital IQ.\nPeloton's key risk factors are a more significant normalization of home fitness demand post-COVID than earlier anticipated, further negative news flow relating to product safety issues, and stiffer-than-expected competition from rivals in the home fitness industry.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":30,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":378467600,"gmtCreate":1619056033600,"gmtModify":1704718934260,"author":{"id":"3581887719007324","authorId":"3581887719007324","authorIdStr":"3581887719007324","name":"Tepggrace","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5c693f95af71b6d6eb4742fe7028d7cd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581887719007324"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just do your own due diligence ","listText":"Just do your own due diligence ","text":"Just do your own due diligence","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/378467600","repostId":"1181510659","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1181510659","pubTimestamp":1619010124,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1181510659?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-04-21 21:02","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The FAANG Stocks Could Fall, if History Is Any Guide","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1181510659","media":"Barrons","summary":"Something was bubbling in mutual funds. Funds “specializing in growth and scientific stocks hit the ","content":"<p>Something was bubbling in mutual funds. Funds “specializing in growth and scientific stocks hit the jackpot in the closing weeks of September,”<i> Barron’s</i> wrote on Nov. 1, 1965. Turning up regularly among the funds’ biggest holdings were names like IBM,Xerox,Eli Lilly,General Electric,and Gillette.</p>\n<p>A few months later, funds that had “packed their portfolios” with “glamour stocks” were enjoying “a sparkling market performance,” we wrote. Led by companies like Johnson & Johnson,Eastman Kodak,3M,IT&T, Polaroid,Revlon,and Sears,the funds “have been outpacing the Dow Jones Averages by the widest margins in years.”</p>\n<p>Welcome to the Nifty Fifty, the 1960s-70s version of today’s FAANGs — Facebook,Apple,Amazon.com,Netflix,and Google parent Alphabet.It was a group of well-known stocks that everybody loved despite wildly high valuations that had little basis in market fundamentals.</p>\n<p>Some observers, such as<i> Barron’s</i> columnist Alan Abelson, thought such irrational investing would lead to a fall, and it did. The 1973-74 recession, accompanied by a bear market, would be the longest since 1930, later to be topped by the recession of 2007-09 caused by the housing market bubble, also preceded by the dramatic rise of a few corporate giants.</p>\n<p>Will things end any differently this time?</p>\n<p>The Nifty Fifty was an informal designation for a group of blue-chip stocks that seemed so solid they gave rise to the popular idea of buy-and-hold investing. Their high price/earnings ratios—often over 50—became selling points, seals of market approval.</p>\n<p>Abelson had his doubts. In 1968, he called Xerox “a first-class outfit by any measure,” and cited its strong quarterly earnings. But, he wondered, “does a 15% growth rate warrant a 50-plus P/E?”</p>\n<p>The Nifty Fifty was still flying in May 1972 when Abelson estimated that the Dow Jones Industrials as a group had a P/E of 15. That was dwarfed by those of “growth issues” such as Eastman Kodak, 42 times earnings; Burroughs, 42; Avon, 60; Xerox, 53; Kresge (later renamed Kmart), 40;Coca-Cola,42; and Polaroid, 90.</p>\n<p>Things would turn quickly. By November of 1972,<i>Barron’s</i> reported that net mutual-fund redemptions would top $1 billion for the year. The bear market officially began in January 1973, and the Nifty Fifty didn’t escape the pain.T. Rowe Price’s Growth Stock fund would drop 50% in two years.</p>\n<p>In July 1974, after a particularly bad week in the market, Lawrence A. Armour, writing the The Trader column, observed that “even greater damage was inflicted over in the glamour category, where the old Nifty Fifty—now known as the Dirty Thirty—took another beating.” Kodak,Honeywell,IBM, and Texas Instruments were among those that got clobbered.</p>\n<p>By the end of the decade, “ ‘Nifty Fifty’ was a byword of ridicule, a reminder of Wall Street’s follies,”<i>Barron’s</i> wrote. “A bear market and a decade of inflation had crushed the premium price/earnings multiples.”</p>\n<p>Or had it?</p>\n<p>In March 1999, our Andrew Bary pondered “the phenomenal ascent” of stocks like Microsoft,Cisco Systems,Dell Computer, Pfizer,and Wal-Mart.“Not since the fabled Nifty Fifty market of the early 1970s has a favored group of stocks came close to reaching the heights now occupied by the current leaders,” Bary wrote. The dot-com bubble soon burst.</p>\n<p>Now, those heights are occupied by the FAANGs. Are things really different this time? Maybe. In October 2018, Al Root wrote that tech stocks in 2000 traded at a 200% premium to the market, while the FAANG premium was just 30%.</p>\n<p>And though growth stocks have been getting “crushed” this year, as <i>Barron’s</i> wrote on April 7, “more-mature growth companies” such as Apple, Facebook, and Alphabet continue to flourish.</p>\n<p>As for the Nifty Fifty, the news isn’t all bad. Many of those big-name companies continue to survive and thrive. And a study by Jeremy Siegel showed, according to<i> Barron’s</i> in 1999, that “an investor paying top dollar for the Nifty Fifty in late 1972 would have earned nearly the same returns over the next 25 years as someone holding the S&P 500.”</p>\n<p>Not much of a return for “growth issues,” to be sure, and a cautionary note for those buying and holding the FAANGs.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The FAANG Stocks Could Fall, if History Is Any Guide</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe FAANG Stocks Could Fall, if History Is Any Guide\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-21 21:02 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/the-faang-stocks-could-fall-if-the-history-of-the-nifty-fifty-is-any-guide-51619004600?mod=hp_LEAD_1><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Something was bubbling in mutual funds. Funds “specializing in growth and scientific stocks hit the jackpot in the closing weeks of September,” Barron’s wrote on Nov. 1, 1965. Turning up regularly ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/the-faang-stocks-could-fall-if-the-history-of-the-nifty-fifty-is-any-guide-51619004600?mod=hp_LEAD_1\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GOOGL":"谷歌A","NFLX":"奈飞",".DJI":"道琼斯","GOOG":"谷歌",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","AAPL":"苹果","AMZN":"亚马逊",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","MSFT":"微软"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/the-faang-stocks-could-fall-if-the-history-of-the-nifty-fifty-is-any-guide-51619004600?mod=hp_LEAD_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1181510659","content_text":"Something was bubbling in mutual funds. Funds “specializing in growth and scientific stocks hit the jackpot in the closing weeks of September,” Barron’s wrote on Nov. 1, 1965. Turning up regularly among the funds’ biggest holdings were names like IBM,Xerox,Eli Lilly,General Electric,and Gillette.\nA few months later, funds that had “packed their portfolios” with “glamour stocks” were enjoying “a sparkling market performance,” we wrote. Led by companies like Johnson & Johnson,Eastman Kodak,3M,IT&T, Polaroid,Revlon,and Sears,the funds “have been outpacing the Dow Jones Averages by the widest margins in years.”\nWelcome to the Nifty Fifty, the 1960s-70s version of today’s FAANGs — Facebook,Apple,Amazon.com,Netflix,and Google parent Alphabet.It was a group of well-known stocks that everybody loved despite wildly high valuations that had little basis in market fundamentals.\nSome observers, such as Barron’s columnist Alan Abelson, thought such irrational investing would lead to a fall, and it did. The 1973-74 recession, accompanied by a bear market, would be the longest since 1930, later to be topped by the recession of 2007-09 caused by the housing market bubble, also preceded by the dramatic rise of a few corporate giants.\nWill things end any differently this time?\nThe Nifty Fifty was an informal designation for a group of blue-chip stocks that seemed so solid they gave rise to the popular idea of buy-and-hold investing. Their high price/earnings ratios—often over 50—became selling points, seals of market approval.\nAbelson had his doubts. In 1968, he called Xerox “a first-class outfit by any measure,” and cited its strong quarterly earnings. But, he wondered, “does a 15% growth rate warrant a 50-plus P/E?”\nThe Nifty Fifty was still flying in May 1972 when Abelson estimated that the Dow Jones Industrials as a group had a P/E of 15. That was dwarfed by those of “growth issues” such as Eastman Kodak, 42 times earnings; Burroughs, 42; Avon, 60; Xerox, 53; Kresge (later renamed Kmart), 40;Coca-Cola,42; and Polaroid, 90.\nThings would turn quickly. By November of 1972,Barron’s reported that net mutual-fund redemptions would top $1 billion for the year. The bear market officially began in January 1973, and the Nifty Fifty didn’t escape the pain.T. Rowe Price’s Growth Stock fund would drop 50% in two years.\nIn July 1974, after a particularly bad week in the market, Lawrence A. Armour, writing the The Trader column, observed that “even greater damage was inflicted over in the glamour category, where the old Nifty Fifty—now known as the Dirty Thirty—took another beating.” Kodak,Honeywell,IBM, and Texas Instruments were among those that got clobbered.\nBy the end of the decade, “ ‘Nifty Fifty’ was a byword of ridicule, a reminder of Wall Street’s follies,”Barron’s wrote. “A bear market and a decade of inflation had crushed the premium price/earnings multiples.”\nOr had it?\nIn March 1999, our Andrew Bary pondered “the phenomenal ascent” of stocks like Microsoft,Cisco Systems,Dell Computer, Pfizer,and Wal-Mart.“Not since the fabled Nifty Fifty market of the early 1970s has a favored group of stocks came close to reaching the heights now occupied by the current leaders,” Bary wrote. The dot-com bubble soon burst.\nNow, those heights are occupied by the FAANGs. Are things really different this time? Maybe. In October 2018, Al Root wrote that tech stocks in 2000 traded at a 200% premium to the market, while the FAANG premium was just 30%.\nAnd though growth stocks have been getting “crushed” this year, as Barron’s wrote on April 7, “more-mature growth companies” such as Apple, Facebook, and Alphabet continue to flourish.\nAs for the Nifty Fifty, the news isn’t all bad. Many of those big-name companies continue to survive and thrive. And a study by Jeremy Siegel showed, according to Barron’s in 1999, that “an investor paying top dollar for the Nifty Fifty in late 1972 would have earned nearly the same returns over the next 25 years as someone holding the S&P 500.”\nNot much of a return for “growth issues,” to be sure, and a cautionary note for those buying and holding the FAANGs.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":53,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":378424327,"gmtCreate":1619056381169,"gmtModify":1704718946754,"author":{"id":"3581887719007324","authorId":"3581887719007324","authorIdStr":"3581887719007324","name":"Tepggrace","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5c693f95af71b6d6eb4742fe7028d7cd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581887719007324"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Not sure if the home fitness trend will continue","listText":"Not sure if the home fitness trend will continue","text":"Not sure if the home fitness trend will continue","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/378424327","repostId":"1140867286","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":30,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":378467600,"gmtCreate":1619056033600,"gmtModify":1704718934260,"author":{"id":"3581887719007324","authorId":"3581887719007324","authorIdStr":"3581887719007324","name":"Tepggrace","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5c693f95af71b6d6eb4742fe7028d7cd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581887719007324"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just do your own due diligence ","listText":"Just do your own due diligence ","text":"Just do your own due diligence","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/378467600","repostId":"1181510659","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":53,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}
