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11-05

Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.

Musk Now Says It's "Pointless" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers

2023-04-08

I am long on NIO

Why Nio Stock Sank Over 14% This Week

2023-07-05

Still very early to start buying!

Xpeng Sees Significant Deliveries Growth in H2 Due to New Model Launch

2023-06-22

😂 go read the XPeng CEO recent comments again... then you will understand the 2 actual Chinese EV maker

NIO: Sell This Dead Cat Bounce

2023-07-31

XPeng and NIO to the moon!!! 🚀 Just getting started!

Morgan Stanley Raises Price Targets on Chinese EV Trio, Sees Potential Re-Rating Opportunities

2023-09-01

Buy before it's off to the moon 🚀

Hot Chinese ADRs Took off in Morning Trading, With Nio Jumping over 10%

2023-08-08

I am long on NIO n Xpeng!!

This Is Why Citi Expects EV Maker Nio Stock to Continue Moving Higher

2023-09-07

So the real qns is... are you a speculator or an investor? Are you looking at 2-5 months or 2-5years??

NIO Is Not The Next Tesla

02-23

lock in the profit!! 👏🏻

Cathie Wood's Ark Offloads Nvidia Stock Worth $4M Despite Post-Earnings Rally

2023-11-03

Everyone would say they sell the best durians to justify their absurd selling price...

Elon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation

2023-10-25

I will consider when it's down another 20-30% 👍

Tesla Stock: Upgrading To Buy, Negatives Priced In

02-09

😜

3 Reasons Why It's Time to Hit the Brakes on NIO Stock

2023-05-12

Goog

ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments

2023-04-05

Indeed one should accumulate citi now even though the fools didn't state the fair value, target pricesetc...

2 Warren Buffett Stocks That Look Like Bargains Now

2023-06-05

Have been buying... 👍

Alibaba Stock: A Screaming Buy At <9x P/FCF

2023-03-03

Lol

Top Calls on Wall Street: Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, NIO, Nvidia, AMD and More

05-05

Because just a few weeks ago he said NIO is a gone case... now that NIO is recovering back, he got to say something to justify... another just say without any concrete data to back... what a load of crap!!

NIO Stock Outlook: Why Investors Should Tread Carefully Despite Impressive Delivery Numbers

2023-04-22

Now we know why he cut 12000 jobs... 😂

Alphabet CEO’s Pay Soars to $226 Million on Massive Stock Award

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Palantir&#39;s US commercial customer base has grown to 295 clients, an 83% YoY increase.</p></li><li><p>I see a company with great fundamentals, including triple-digit net income growth over the last four quarters, 81% gross margins, and record 60% adj. FCF margins.</p></li><li><p>Future corrections may occur due to short-term speculators, but I expect pullbacks to be short-lived, as I believe there are many investors ready to buy once prices dip.</p></li><li><p>Despite Palantir&#39;s current modest 1.2% share of a $230 billion total addressable market, I maintain a Strong Buy rating based on compelling evidence of market penetration and growth potential.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e2d4e32a2f1241a0878e364cc4717b4c\" alt=\"Klaus Vedfelt\" title=\"Klaus Vedfelt\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Klaus Vedfelt</span></p><p>Someone said (I believe it was Buffett) to be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.</p><p>Well, looking at the latest SA analyst ratings for Palantir Technologies Inc. (NASDAQ:PLTR), it appears this could be one of those moments to buy.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/82e81728019ad0edd9fa5ffad39136ae\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"454\" tg-height=\"825\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>Of course, Buffett was referring to the share price, not analysts&#39; ratings. However, I find the ratings, particularly those on Seeking Alpha, to be an interesting gauge of market sentiment for a particular stock, regardless of what the share price is doing.</p><p>Despite being a contrarian, I do agree with the current analyst consensus that, from a traditional valuation perspective, the share price looks absurdly overpriced. In fact, as a value investor, I rarely see P/E ratios over 380 in my stock screener. However, when I look beyond the current share price and basic valuation ratios, I recognize that there&#39;s a real, strong business behind those four letters — PLTR — that makes sense to me.</p><p>In this article, I will provide the rationale for why I believe this company makes sense, not just from a fundamental perspective (i.e. looking backward) but from a broader market perspective, with a longer timeframe extending beyond 5 years.</p><p>Considering that the company has a market share of just 1.2% (of a TAM of $230 billion), I strongly believe that 5 to 8 years from now, the $75 price mark will seem quite cheap, much like how the $25 price (Palantir&#39;s share price 6 months ago) appears cheap today.</p><p>I’ll clarify upfront that my bull thesis considers potential near-term pullbacks, which I see as opportunities to average down my cost basis. However, given the current interest in this stock — not just from speculators but also from those recognizing its strong fundamentals, profitability, and market tailwinds — I firmly believe that a 20% to 30% pullback wouldn’t last more than a few quarters. The business itself, along with the broader market factors driving its growth, makes complete sense to me, which is the main reason I rate Palantir as a Strong Buy.</p><p>Nonetheless, I remain mindful of some risks to my bull thesis, which I will discuss in this article.</p><h2 id=\"id_126878991\">Palantir Is Barely Scratching Its Total Addressable Market</h2><p>As you may know, Palantir operates through two main segments:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Government: this segment helps government entities analyze data for defense, intelligence, and public sector operations.</p></li><li><p>Commercial: this segment provides data analytics and integration solutions to private sector clients.</p></li></ul><p>So far, the government sector makes up a bigger part of the company&#39;s total revenue. According to the latest earnings report, it accounted for 56% of total revenue in Q3 and 54% for the first nine months of 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/61c884fe48457fddd02122d9a951d08d\" alt=\"Q3 2024 | 10-Q\" title=\"Q3 2024 | 10-Q\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"85\"/><span>Q3 2024 | 10-Q</span></p><p>I predict this will drastically change in the near term. Let me explain why.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s first customers in the 2000s were government agencies, including the likes of the CIA, FBI, NSA, CDC, and various military branches. Their commercial expansion began in 2009, with JPMorgan Chase being their first commercial customer.</p><p>For a brief period, between 2018 and 2019, the commercial sector led the company&#39;s revenue. However, after the pandemic, the government sector took the lead again. I believe this shift was due to higher government spending for emergency response during the COVID-19 crisis, and because many private companies cut back on their spending during the onset of the pandemic.</p><p>However, with the rise of AI in 2023, things have drastically changed for enterprise companies. To put things into perspective, Palantir&#39;s US commercial customer count at the end of last quarter was only 295 (an 83% YoY increase), with a commercial segment revenue of $317 million.</p><p>I say <em>only</em> because at the time of its IPO in 2020, Palantir identified a total addressable market for the commercial segment alone of $56 billion, and that&#39;s likely significantly larger today due to the emergence of generative AI in 2023.</p><p>How larger?</p><p>Well, some analysts predict a TAM (including the government segment) of $230 billion by 2025 and $300 billion by 2030. Considering their 2024 revenue guidance of $2.8 billion, the company has a market share of just 1.2% (considering a TAM of $230 billion).</p><p>I strongly believe that as AI continues to be adopted by the private sector, the commercial segment will eventually overshadow the government segment in revenue. Right now, we are in the very early stages of private companies embracing AI. Many are still in the discovery phase, trying to figure out what the buzz is all about and how they can profit from it. On top of that, a large number of companies (particularly traditional businesses, outside the tech industry) still remain skeptical of leveraging AI due to certain issues, the main one being hallucinations in the AI&#39;s output — a challenge that Palantir actively addresses through their ontology system.</p><p>Finally, by the looks of it, it seems that I am not the only one who believes that the company will continue to capture market share. The analyst consensus for Palantir shows significant growth in the company&#39;s revenue, reaching $10 billion by 2031-2032.</p><h2 id=\"id_161839351\">Strong Fundamentals</h2><p>If there is one thing that catches my eye when looking at the fundamentals of the company is its rapid growth in profitability.</p><p>To be specific, net income has increased in the triple digits consecutively over the past 4 quarters. Looking at the profitability margins, the company has a gross profit margin of 81% and a GAAP net income margin of 18%.</p><p>If you are into growth stocks in the tech sector, you may be already aware of the Rule of 40, popularized by venture capitalist Brad Feld in 2015. This is a score that adds the revenue growth and profitability margin of the company (usually EBITDA margin if the company is at an early stage, otherwise, either net or operating margin). Generally, investors like to see this metric above 40%.</p><p>In Palantir&#39;s case, they achieved a Rule of 40 score of 68 in Q3 2024 (30% revenue growth + 38% adjusted operating margin). As a side note, the adjustment comes from excluding stock-based compensation and related employer payroll taxes. Considering the GAAP net margin in the past quarter of 20%, Palantir&#39;s score is 48.</p><p>From a cash flow perspective, Palantir looks quite good, with a 214% YoY increase in operating cash flow in the past quarter. Additionally, in Q3, the adjusted FCF margin was 60%, representing its highest quarterly free cash flow margin to date.</p><p>From a fundamental analysis standpoint, Palantir clearly makes sense. It has strong double-digit revenue growth, solid profit margins, negative net debt, favorable industry tailwinds, optimistic guidance, and the analyst consensus is pointing to further growth.</p><p>Now, let’s address the big elephant in the room.</p><h2 id=\"id_3795272151\">Is All of This Already Priced In?</h2><p>I will be blunt: I believe the answer is no.</p><p>To understand why, please take a look at the image below, that illustrates the history of Seeking Alpha&#39;s factor grades for Palantir.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3a24b1dc980793d43b6fbd4021259ff1\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"286\" tg-height=\"221\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>Half a year ago, when the share price was trading at just $25, Palantir&#39;s valuation metrics were graded as an F (i.e., overvalued compared to its sector and historical range).</p><p>At that time, analysts on SA were mostly recommending a Hold rating.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/aad62b9d880858c1b0c689ce1bdd6e4d\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"621\" tg-height=\"825\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>Yet, over the past six months, this stock returned 226%, <strong>despite </strong>(emphasis on this last word) the Hold consensus, mainly justified by the fact that the company looked overpriced from a valuation perspective.</p><p>Look, I agree with absolutely every bear in the market that the valuation ratios are absurdly high and the increase in the share price is mainly driven by speculators, with a shorter investment timeframe. I also believe that a pullback (20% - 30%), is more than inevitable, especially if the company misses a quarter or delivers weak guidance.</p><p>However, in the long run, with a view toward 2030 or beyond, the current share price of $76 may seem like a bargain in hindsight, in the same way $25 looks now.</p><p>Why?</p><p>Simply because the company and the headwinds make sense. As I mentioned in the previous section, its fundamentals are impeccable and the growing adoption of AI by enterprises, not as a luxury but as a necessity, is undeniable.</p><p>Additionally, I believe there is a large volume of investors waiting for a pullback to start a long position in this stock. Therefore, when the pullback happens (and, again, it will happen), I believe the share price will take less than a quarter or two to recover from its previous decline unless there is a major macroeconomic event that could affect the entire broader market in the US, which leads me to the next point.</p><h2 id=\"id_631555996\">How Can I Be Wrong?</h2><p>One more time, I will be blunt with my answer.</p><p>My bull thesis could be obliterated if large enterprises, particularly in the US (considering the company has a high revenue concentration of 70% in this region), decide to slow down their discretionary technology spending in AI and cut back on non-essential expenses.</p><p>Currently, I fully agree with the bears that AI in large enterprises is not essential to keep the lights on (i.e., to maintain operations). While leveraging data can help companies make more informed decisions, it doesn’t necessarily result in higher revenue or better margins. However, in the near future, I believe this will drastically change as custom AI models will become more specific to particular industries, and enterprises that fail to leverage their data through AI may face significant challenges from competitors who do.</p><p>Another risk factor to consider is that a pullback could be sharper and longer-lasting than I previously anticipated. This could happen for several reasons, with the main one being that investors may wait for the company&#39;s valuation ratios to cool off to more attractive levels. Considering its P/E ratio of 382, this would imply a 10x decline in the share price (considering the same TTM earnings), to better align with a P/E ratio in the mid-30s, which is the sector median.</p><h2 id=\"id_3747064880\">Conclusion</h2><p>To wrap up, I rate Palantir as a Strong Buy, as I have a high conviction this stock offers a compelling long-term investment opportunity (over 5+ years) despite its sky-high current valuation ratios.</p><p>On the positive side, the company has demonstrated spectacular financial performance with triple-digit net income increases over four consecutive quarters, and a record-breaking 60% adjusted FCF margin in the past quarter. From a fundamental and profitability perspective, I believe this company makes sense.</p><p>Looking ahead, I expect the commercial business to maintain, and even accelerate, its growth, as more enterprises in the US recognize the value (which will be a necessity in a few years) of leveraging their data using AI. What I find most compelling is their minimal market penetration, just 1.2% of an estimated $230 billion total addressable market by 2025.</p><p>On the risks side, there is no doubt the company looks overpriced from a valuation perspective, with an absurdly high P/E ratio of 382x. I believe the main risk to my bull thesis is future (now unseen, i.e., black swans) macroeconomic events that could lead to enterprise spending slowdowns on AI initiatives. Additionally, the stock remains vulnerable to sharp market corrections if the company misses earnings estimates, as I believe many recent investors are speculators with shorter investment horizons.</p><p>However, I have high conviction that any pullback will not last more than one or two quarters, as the underlying business behind this stock makes sense, supported by favorable market tailwinds, strong profitability, and solid growth potential.</p><p>To back up my rating with some skin in the game, I have initiated a position in Palantir and plan to average down if a pullback happens.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1728464409321","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Be Greedy When Others Are Fearful</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Be Greedy When Others Are Fearful\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-12-10 15:45 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4743179-palantir-be-greedy-when-others-are-fearful><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryI expect the commercial segment growth to accelerate as enterprise AI adoption increases in the next years, eventually overshadowing government revenue.So far, I see strong signs of momentum in...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4743179-palantir-be-greedy-when-others-are-fearful\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4743179-palantir-be-greedy-when-others-are-fearful","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1172170546","content_text":"SummaryI expect the commercial segment growth to accelerate as enterprise AI adoption increases in the next years, eventually overshadowing government revenue.So far, I see strong signs of momentum in enterprise AI adoption. Palantir's US commercial customer base has grown to 295 clients, an 83% YoY increase.I see a company with great fundamentals, including triple-digit net income growth over the last four quarters, 81% gross margins, and record 60% adj. FCF margins.Future corrections may occur due to short-term speculators, but I expect pullbacks to be short-lived, as I believe there are many investors ready to buy once prices dip.Despite Palantir's current modest 1.2% share of a $230 billion total addressable market, I maintain a Strong Buy rating based on compelling evidence of market penetration and growth potential.Klaus VedfeltSomeone said (I believe it was Buffett) to be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.Well, looking at the latest SA analyst ratings for Palantir Technologies Inc. (NASDAQ:PLTR), it appears this could be one of those moments to buy.Seeking AlphaOf course, Buffett was referring to the share price, not analysts' ratings. However, I find the ratings, particularly those on Seeking Alpha, to be an interesting gauge of market sentiment for a particular stock, regardless of what the share price is doing.Despite being a contrarian, I do agree with the current analyst consensus that, from a traditional valuation perspective, the share price looks absurdly overpriced. In fact, as a value investor, I rarely see P/E ratios over 380 in my stock screener. However, when I look beyond the current share price and basic valuation ratios, I recognize that there's a real, strong business behind those four letters — PLTR — that makes sense to me.In this article, I will provide the rationale for why I believe this company makes sense, not just from a fundamental perspective (i.e. looking backward) but from a broader market perspective, with a longer timeframe extending beyond 5 years.Considering that the company has a market share of just 1.2% (of a TAM of $230 billion), I strongly believe that 5 to 8 years from now, the $75 price mark will seem quite cheap, much like how the $25 price (Palantir's share price 6 months ago) appears cheap today.I’ll clarify upfront that my bull thesis considers potential near-term pullbacks, which I see as opportunities to average down my cost basis. However, given the current interest in this stock — not just from speculators but also from those recognizing its strong fundamentals, profitability, and market tailwinds — I firmly believe that a 20% to 30% pullback wouldn’t last more than a few quarters. The business itself, along with the broader market factors driving its growth, makes complete sense to me, which is the main reason I rate Palantir as a Strong Buy.Nonetheless, I remain mindful of some risks to my bull thesis, which I will discuss in this article.Palantir Is Barely Scratching Its Total Addressable MarketAs you may know, Palantir operates through two main segments:Government: this segment helps government entities analyze data for defense, intelligence, and public sector operations.Commercial: this segment provides data analytics and integration solutions to private sector clients.So far, the government sector makes up a bigger part of the company's total revenue. According to the latest earnings report, it accounted for 56% of total revenue in Q3 and 54% for the first nine months of 2024.Q3 2024 | 10-QI predict this will drastically change in the near term. Let me explain why.Palantir's first customers in the 2000s were government agencies, including the likes of the CIA, FBI, NSA, CDC, and various military branches. Their commercial expansion began in 2009, with JPMorgan Chase being their first commercial customer.For a brief period, between 2018 and 2019, the commercial sector led the company's revenue. However, after the pandemic, the government sector took the lead again. I believe this shift was due to higher government spending for emergency response during the COVID-19 crisis, and because many private companies cut back on their spending during the onset of the pandemic.However, with the rise of AI in 2023, things have drastically changed for enterprise companies. To put things into perspective, Palantir's US commercial customer count at the end of last quarter was only 295 (an 83% YoY increase), with a commercial segment revenue of $317 million.I say only because at the time of its IPO in 2020, Palantir identified a total addressable market for the commercial segment alone of $56 billion, and that's likely significantly larger today due to the emergence of generative AI in 2023.How larger?Well, some analysts predict a TAM (including the government segment) of $230 billion by 2025 and $300 billion by 2030. Considering their 2024 revenue guidance of $2.8 billion, the company has a market share of just 1.2% (considering a TAM of $230 billion).I strongly believe that as AI continues to be adopted by the private sector, the commercial segment will eventually overshadow the government segment in revenue. Right now, we are in the very early stages of private companies embracing AI. Many are still in the discovery phase, trying to figure out what the buzz is all about and how they can profit from it. On top of that, a large number of companies (particularly traditional businesses, outside the tech industry) still remain skeptical of leveraging AI due to certain issues, the main one being hallucinations in the AI's output — a challenge that Palantir actively addresses through their ontology system.Finally, by the looks of it, it seems that I am not the only one who believes that the company will continue to capture market share. The analyst consensus for Palantir shows significant growth in the company's revenue, reaching $10 billion by 2031-2032.Strong FundamentalsIf there is one thing that catches my eye when looking at the fundamentals of the company is its rapid growth in profitability.To be specific, net income has increased in the triple digits consecutively over the past 4 quarters. Looking at the profitability margins, the company has a gross profit margin of 81% and a GAAP net income margin of 18%.If you are into growth stocks in the tech sector, you may be already aware of the Rule of 40, popularized by venture capitalist Brad Feld in 2015. This is a score that adds the revenue growth and profitability margin of the company (usually EBITDA margin if the company is at an early stage, otherwise, either net or operating margin). Generally, investors like to see this metric above 40%.In Palantir's case, they achieved a Rule of 40 score of 68 in Q3 2024 (30% revenue growth + 38% adjusted operating margin). As a side note, the adjustment comes from excluding stock-based compensation and related employer payroll taxes. Considering the GAAP net margin in the past quarter of 20%, Palantir's score is 48.From a cash flow perspective, Palantir looks quite good, with a 214% YoY increase in operating cash flow in the past quarter. Additionally, in Q3, the adjusted FCF margin was 60%, representing its highest quarterly free cash flow margin to date.From a fundamental analysis standpoint, Palantir clearly makes sense. It has strong double-digit revenue growth, solid profit margins, negative net debt, favorable industry tailwinds, optimistic guidance, and the analyst consensus is pointing to further growth.Now, let’s address the big elephant in the room.Is All of This Already Priced In?I will be blunt: I believe the answer is no.To understand why, please take a look at the image below, that illustrates the history of Seeking Alpha's factor grades for Palantir.Seeking AlphaHalf a year ago, when the share price was trading at just $25, Palantir's valuation metrics were graded as an F (i.e., overvalued compared to its sector and historical range).At that time, analysts on SA were mostly recommending a Hold rating.Seeking AlphaYet, over the past six months, this stock returned 226%, despite (emphasis on this last word) the Hold consensus, mainly justified by the fact that the company looked overpriced from a valuation perspective.Look, I agree with absolutely every bear in the market that the valuation ratios are absurdly high and the increase in the share price is mainly driven by speculators, with a shorter investment timeframe. I also believe that a pullback (20% - 30%), is more than inevitable, especially if the company misses a quarter or delivers weak guidance.However, in the long run, with a view toward 2030 or beyond, the current share price of $76 may seem like a bargain in hindsight, in the same way $25 looks now.Why?Simply because the company and the headwinds make sense. As I mentioned in the previous section, its fundamentals are impeccable and the growing adoption of AI by enterprises, not as a luxury but as a necessity, is undeniable.Additionally, I believe there is a large volume of investors waiting for a pullback to start a long position in this stock. Therefore, when the pullback happens (and, again, it will happen), I believe the share price will take less than a quarter or two to recover from its previous decline unless there is a major macroeconomic event that could affect the entire broader market in the US, which leads me to the next point.How Can I Be Wrong?One more time, I will be blunt with my answer.My bull thesis could be obliterated if large enterprises, particularly in the US (considering the company has a high revenue concentration of 70% in this region), decide to slow down their discretionary technology spending in AI and cut back on non-essential expenses.Currently, I fully agree with the bears that AI in large enterprises is not essential to keep the lights on (i.e., to maintain operations). While leveraging data can help companies make more informed decisions, it doesn’t necessarily result in higher revenue or better margins. However, in the near future, I believe this will drastically change as custom AI models will become more specific to particular industries, and enterprises that fail to leverage their data through AI may face significant challenges from competitors who do.Another risk factor to consider is that a pullback could be sharper and longer-lasting than I previously anticipated. This could happen for several reasons, with the main one being that investors may wait for the company's valuation ratios to cool off to more attractive levels. Considering its P/E ratio of 382, this would imply a 10x decline in the share price (considering the same TTM earnings), to better align with a P/E ratio in the mid-30s, which is the sector median.ConclusionTo wrap up, I rate Palantir as a Strong Buy, as I have a high conviction this stock offers a compelling long-term investment opportunity (over 5+ years) despite its sky-high current valuation ratios.On the positive side, the company has demonstrated spectacular financial performance with triple-digit net income increases over four consecutive quarters, and a record-breaking 60% adjusted FCF margin in the past quarter. From a fundamental and profitability perspective, I believe this company makes sense.Looking ahead, I expect the commercial business to maintain, and even accelerate, its growth, as more enterprises in the US recognize the value (which will be a necessity in a few years) of leveraging their data using AI. What I find most compelling is their minimal market penetration, just 1.2% of an estimated $230 billion total addressable market by 2025.On the risks side, there is no doubt the company looks overpriced from a valuation perspective, with an absurdly high P/E ratio of 382x. I believe the main risk to my bull thesis is future (now unseen, i.e., black swans) macroeconomic events that could lead to enterprise spending slowdowns on AI initiatives. 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imminent green light to stablecoin RLUSD by Ripple Labs—the blockchain-based company using XRP for its offerings.</p><h3 id=\"id_2933044838\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Michael Saylor Claims He Can Convince Warren Buffett to Buy Bitcoin</h3><p>Michael Saylor, co-founder and executive chairman of software intelligence firm <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTR\">Microstrategy</a>, criticized the cash management strategy of Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway during a Nov. 18 interview on the PBD Podcast.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Saylor speculated that even traditionalists like Warren Buffett could be persuaded to adopt BTC. The Microstrategy executive chairman extended his critique to others who hold significant cash reserves without exploring alternatives like bitcoin. “I will say for the record I’m happy to go visit anybody that has a hundred billion of cash that’s sitting and burning $10 billion of shareholder value a year. I will go visit you and provide you with all of the information you need in order to be convinced that you should flip to the bitcoin standard,” Saylor added, underscoring his belief in bitcoin as a superior asset for wealth preservation.</p><h3 id=\"id_2605047802\">Michael Saylor Proposes $5T Boost for Microsoft with Bitcoin</h3><p>Michael Saylor, chair of <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTR\">MicroStrategy</a>, presented a bold proposal to <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>’s board, suggesting that investing heavily in Bitcoin (CRYPTO:BTC) could potentially add $5 trillion to the tech giant’s market capitalisation. </p><p>In a December 1 video, Saylor revealed a three-minute pitch backed by 44 slides, advocating for Microsoft to redirect its cash flows, dividends, stock buybacks, and debt into Bitcoin. </p><p>“Microsoft can’t afford to miss the next technology wave, and Bitcoin is that wave,” he stated.</p><h3 id=\"id_3887213515\" style=\"text-align: start;\">US Bitcoin, Ether ETFs Log Record Inflows on Trump’s Embrace of Crypto</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The groups of Bitcoin and Ether ETFs each posted record monthly net inflows in November, $6.5 billion and $1.1 billion respectively, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Friday’s daily Ether ETF subscriptions also hit an all-time peak.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The interest in Ether, the largest token after Bitcoin, points to widening speculative appetite for crypto following Trump’s US election victory on Nov. 5. By some metrics, the clamor for exposure to digital assets has yet to reprise the mania of a pandemic-era bubble, at least among retail investors.</p><h3 id=\"id_4006268680\">Dogecoin Bounces 9% After Bernie Sanders&#39; Views Align With Elon Musk&#39;s &#39;DOGE&#39; Department</h3><p>Popular dog-themed cryptocurrency Dogecoin rallied sharply Sunday after Sen. Bernie Sanders(I-Vt.) implicitly supported Elon Musk&#39;s upcoming Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The world&#39;s largest meme coin by market capitalization leaped over 9% in the last 24 hours.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">DOGE&#39;s trading volume jumped 40% to $8.93 billion, making it the fifth-most traded cryptocurrency in the last 24 hours.</p><p>The planned DOGE department, overseen by Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, seeks to cut through the complexity of federal bureaucracy and filter out “nonsensical” regulations.</p><h3 id=\"id_1731746563\">Analysts Say Bitcoin Is Poised for $100k Now That Long-Term Holders Have Stopped Selling</h3><p>Crypto analyst James Van Straten believes that Bitcoin will cross $100,000 as long the demand for the flagship continues to outstrip supply. Van Straten shared this view in a post on X (formerly Twitter), noting a net accumulation of 87,000 BTC over the last 30 days.</p><p>According to the analyst, the return to accumulation is a great sign, showing that long-term holders (LTHs) selling off the flagship that has been taking profits have finally slowed down. Based on his analysis, this sell-off has been the reason behind Bitcoin’s struggle to reach $100,000.</p><h2 id=\"id_1130603688\">Bitcoin Spot ETF Flow</h2><p>The overall net inflow of the US Bitcoin spot ETF on Friday was $320.01 million. The total net asset value of Bitcoin spot ETFs is $105.28 billion, and the ETF net asset ratio (market value compared to total Bitcoin market value) is 5.47%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/dca8f527c46f949381ff0b313ce361cd\" tg-width=\"1465\" tg-height=\"196\"/></p><p>The Bitcoin spot ETF with the highest net inflow on November 29 was <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/IBIT\">iShares Bitcoin Trust</a>, with a net inflow of $137.49 million. Following that was <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FBTC\">Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund</a> (FBTC), with a net inflow of 106.46 million, according to SoSoValue.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3dc6a672f8535a128639f25378863772\" tg-width=\"1339\" tg-height=\"589\"/></p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Crypto Daily | Michael Saylor Claims He Can Convince Buffett to Buy Bitcoin; Analysts Say Bitcoin Is Poised for $100k</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Analysts Say Bitcoin Is Poised for $100k\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-12-02 13:59</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p><strong><em>Crypto Daily is our column tracking crypto market trends, offering timely insights and valuable updates to keep you informed.</em></strong></p><h2 id=\"id_2266231118\">Crypto News</h2><h3 id=\"id_3229689771\">XRP Beats Solana To Become 4th Largest Crypto By Market Cap</h3><p>XRP surged over 26% in the last 24 hours, reclaiming the $2 level after a gap of nearly seven years.  </p><p>The coin topped $136 billion in market capitalization, knocking Solana out of fourth place among the largest cryptocurrencies in valuation.</p><p>The latest rally has catapulted XRP’s year-to-date gains to 286%, significantly outpacing Bitcoin BTC/USD and Ethereum ETH/USD.</p><p>The rally was spurred by a Fox Business report about the New York Department of Financial Services&#39; imminent green light to stablecoin RLUSD by Ripple Labs—the blockchain-based company using XRP for its offerings.</p><h3 id=\"id_2933044838\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Michael Saylor Claims He Can Convince Warren Buffett to Buy Bitcoin</h3><p>Michael Saylor, co-founder and executive chairman of software intelligence firm <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTR\">Microstrategy</a>, criticized the cash management strategy of Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway during a Nov. 18 interview on the PBD Podcast.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Saylor speculated that even traditionalists like Warren Buffett could be persuaded to adopt BTC. The Microstrategy executive chairman extended his critique to others who hold significant cash reserves without exploring alternatives like bitcoin. “I will say for the record I’m happy to go visit anybody that has a hundred billion of cash that’s sitting and burning $10 billion of shareholder value a year. I will go visit you and provide you with all of the information you need in order to be convinced that you should flip to the bitcoin standard,” Saylor added, underscoring his belief in bitcoin as a superior asset for wealth preservation.</p><h3 id=\"id_2605047802\">Michael Saylor Proposes $5T Boost for Microsoft with Bitcoin</h3><p>Michael Saylor, chair of <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTR\">MicroStrategy</a>, presented a bold proposal to <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>’s board, suggesting that investing heavily in Bitcoin (CRYPTO:BTC) could potentially add $5 trillion to the tech giant’s market capitalisation. </p><p>In a December 1 video, Saylor revealed a three-minute pitch backed by 44 slides, advocating for Microsoft to redirect its cash flows, dividends, stock buybacks, and debt into Bitcoin. </p><p>“Microsoft can’t afford to miss the next technology wave, and Bitcoin is that wave,” he stated.</p><h3 id=\"id_3887213515\" style=\"text-align: start;\">US Bitcoin, Ether ETFs Log Record Inflows on Trump’s Embrace of Crypto</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The groups of Bitcoin and Ether ETFs each posted record monthly net inflows in November, $6.5 billion and $1.1 billion respectively, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Friday’s daily Ether ETF subscriptions also hit an all-time peak.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The interest in Ether, the largest token after Bitcoin, points to widening speculative appetite for crypto following Trump’s US election victory on Nov. 5. By some metrics, the clamor for exposure to digital assets has yet to reprise the mania of a pandemic-era bubble, at least among retail investors.</p><h3 id=\"id_4006268680\">Dogecoin Bounces 9% After Bernie Sanders&#39; Views Align With Elon Musk&#39;s &#39;DOGE&#39; Department</h3><p>Popular dog-themed cryptocurrency Dogecoin rallied sharply Sunday after Sen. Bernie Sanders(I-Vt.) implicitly supported Elon Musk&#39;s upcoming Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The world&#39;s largest meme coin by market capitalization leaped over 9% in the last 24 hours.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">DOGE&#39;s trading volume jumped 40% to $8.93 billion, making it the fifth-most traded cryptocurrency in the last 24 hours.</p><p>The planned DOGE department, overseen by Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, seeks to cut through the complexity of federal bureaucracy and filter out “nonsensical” regulations.</p><h3 id=\"id_1731746563\">Analysts Say Bitcoin Is Poised for $100k Now That Long-Term Holders Have Stopped Selling</h3><p>Crypto analyst James Van Straten believes that Bitcoin will cross $100,000 as long the demand for the flagship continues to outstrip supply. Van Straten shared this view in a post on X (formerly Twitter), noting a net accumulation of 87,000 BTC over the last 30 days.</p><p>According to the analyst, the return to accumulation is a great sign, showing that long-term holders (LTHs) selling off the flagship that has been taking profits have finally slowed down. Based on his analysis, this sell-off has been the reason behind Bitcoin’s struggle to reach $100,000.</p><h2 id=\"id_1130603688\">Bitcoin Spot ETF Flow</h2><p>The overall net inflow of the US Bitcoin spot ETF on Friday was $320.01 million. The total net asset value of Bitcoin spot ETFs is $105.28 billion, and the ETF net asset ratio (market value compared to total Bitcoin market value) is 5.47%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/dca8f527c46f949381ff0b313ce361cd\" tg-width=\"1465\" tg-height=\"196\"/></p><p>The Bitcoin spot ETF with the highest net inflow on November 29 was <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/IBIT\">iShares Bitcoin Trust</a>, with a net inflow of $137.49 million. Following that was <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FBTC\">Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund</a> (FBTC), with a net inflow of 106.46 million, according to SoSoValue.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3dc6a672f8535a128639f25378863772\" tg-width=\"1339\" tg-height=\"589\"/></p><p></p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SOS":"SOS Limited","MSTR":"MicroStrategy","MARA":"MARA Holdings","COIN":"Coinbase Global, Inc.","BTBT":"Bit Digital, Inc.","CLSK":"CleanSpark, Inc."},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1196319172","content_text":"Crypto Daily is our column tracking crypto market trends, offering timely insights and valuable updates to keep you informed.Crypto NewsXRP Beats Solana To Become 4th Largest Crypto By Market CapXRP surged over 26% in the last 24 hours, reclaiming the $2 level after a gap of nearly seven years.  The coin topped $136 billion in market capitalization, knocking Solana out of fourth place among the largest cryptocurrencies in valuation.The latest rally has catapulted XRP’s year-to-date gains to 286%, significantly outpacing Bitcoin BTC/USD and Ethereum ETH/USD.The rally was spurred by a Fox Business report about the New York Department of Financial Services' imminent green light to stablecoin RLUSD by Ripple Labs—the blockchain-based company using XRP for its offerings.Michael Saylor Claims He Can Convince Warren Buffett to Buy BitcoinMichael Saylor, co-founder and executive chairman of software intelligence firm Microstrategy, criticized the cash management strategy of Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway during a Nov. 18 interview on the PBD Podcast.Saylor speculated that even traditionalists like Warren Buffett could be persuaded to adopt BTC. The Microstrategy executive chairman extended his critique to others who hold significant cash reserves without exploring alternatives like bitcoin. “I will say for the record I’m happy to go visit anybody that has a hundred billion of cash that’s sitting and burning $10 billion of shareholder value a year. I will go visit you and provide you with all of the information you need in order to be convinced that you should flip to the bitcoin standard,” Saylor added, underscoring his belief in bitcoin as a superior asset for wealth preservation.Michael Saylor Proposes $5T Boost for Microsoft with BitcoinMichael Saylor, chair of MicroStrategy, presented a bold proposal to Microsoft’s board, suggesting that investing heavily in Bitcoin (CRYPTO:BTC) could potentially add $5 trillion to the tech giant’s market capitalisation. In a December 1 video, Saylor revealed a three-minute pitch backed by 44 slides, advocating for Microsoft to redirect its cash flows, dividends, stock buybacks, and debt into Bitcoin. “Microsoft can’t afford to miss the next technology wave, and Bitcoin is that wave,” he stated.US Bitcoin, Ether ETFs Log Record Inflows on Trump’s Embrace of CryptoThe groups of Bitcoin and Ether ETFs each posted record monthly net inflows in November, $6.5 billion and $1.1 billion respectively, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Friday’s daily Ether ETF subscriptions also hit an all-time peak.The interest in Ether, the largest token after Bitcoin, points to widening speculative appetite for crypto following Trump’s US election victory on Nov. 5. By some metrics, the clamor for exposure to digital assets has yet to reprise the mania of a pandemic-era bubble, at least among retail investors.Dogecoin Bounces 9% After Bernie Sanders' Views Align With Elon Musk's 'DOGE' DepartmentPopular dog-themed cryptocurrency Dogecoin rallied sharply Sunday after Sen. Bernie Sanders(I-Vt.) implicitly supported Elon Musk's upcoming Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.The world's largest meme coin by market capitalization leaped over 9% in the last 24 hours.DOGE's trading volume jumped 40% to $8.93 billion, making it the fifth-most traded cryptocurrency in the last 24 hours.The planned DOGE department, overseen by Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, seeks to cut through the complexity of federal bureaucracy and filter out “nonsensical” regulations.Analysts Say Bitcoin Is Poised for $100k Now That Long-Term Holders Have Stopped SellingCrypto analyst James Van Straten believes that Bitcoin will cross $100,000 as long the demand for the flagship continues to outstrip supply. Van Straten shared this view in a post on X (formerly Twitter), noting a net accumulation of 87,000 BTC over the last 30 days.According to the analyst, the return to accumulation is a great sign, showing that long-term holders (LTHs) selling off the flagship that has been taking profits have finally slowed down. Based on his analysis, this sell-off has been the reason behind Bitcoin’s struggle to reach $100,000.Bitcoin Spot ETF FlowThe overall net inflow of the US Bitcoin spot ETF on Friday was $320.01 million. The total net asset value of Bitcoin spot ETFs is $105.28 billion, and the ETF net asset ratio (market value compared to total Bitcoin market value) is 5.47%.The Bitcoin spot ETF with the highest net inflow on November 29 was iShares Bitcoin Trust, with a net inflow of $137.49 million. 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You know this stock is very much overvalued... so in essence, it depend if you are a investor or gambler 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️","text":"It all boils down to valuations... if you do your home work properly. You know this stock is very much overvalued... so in essence, it depend if you are a investor or gambler 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/373072482042144","repostId":"1101873677","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1101873677","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1732089900,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1101873677?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-20 16:05","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Palantir Stock in Trouble? Jefferies Predicts a 60% Crash","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1101873677","media":"Finbold","summary":"Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big dat","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big data analytics company Palantir (NYSE: PLTR) could secure better yearly returns.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/da94adcc1677cb447048d558601090c1\" alt=\"Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crash\" title=\"Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crash\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"683\"/><span>Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crash</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">After all, it is currently in the lead — whereas NVDA is up 196.86% since the beginning of the year, PLTR has secured gains of 266.80% in the same timeframe. Palantir stock closed higher 2.81% at $62.98 apiece on Tuesday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2af4b774d36b96e0e4b2199ff78efc39\" tg-width=\"873\" tg-height=\"622\"/></p><p>Palantir has long been a favorite of retail investors — in contrast, institutional investors spent most of the last couple of years openly doubting the stock. After a standout Q3 2024 earnings call on November 4, that perspective has shifted — hedge funds are now purchasing large quantities of PLTR shares, while Wall Street equity analysts are setting increasingly higher price targets.</p><p>It would not be a stretch to say that an atmosphere of greed is present — and with the hype surrounding both the wider AI industry and Palantir, it’s more important than ever to take note of and heed dissenting voices. Valuation has long been one of the primary concerns surrounding the Alex Karp-led business — and the recent surge in price has done nothing to dispel those worries.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In stark contrast with most of his colleagues, one Jefferies researcher has set a price target that would correspond with a 60% decrease in PLTR share price — let’s take a closer look at his rationale.</p><h2 id=\"h-jefferies-analyst-brent-thill-sees-significant-downside-for-pltr-stock\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Jefferies analyst Brent Thill sees significant downside for PLTR stock</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On November 7, Jefferies software and internet researcher Brent Thill downgraded Palantir stock to ‘Underperform’ from his prior ‘Hold’ rating. His previous price target of $28 remains unchanged.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares of the AI software infrastructure company are currently trading at a 43 times multiple of its calendar 2025 revenue. As noted by Thill, the last time such conditions were seen in the tech sector was the Covid bubble. However, seeing as how macro conditions have normalized, this is no longer a common sight — Palantir’s multiple is currently over four times as large as its next comparable peer.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The expert added that although Palantir’s fundamentals ‘are alive,’ the company would have to accelerate growth to 40% for four years straight and trade at 12x estimated 2028 revenue ‘just for the stock to hold its price, which seems unlikely.’</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">At present, Thill deems even current prices unsustainable — and his arguments seem to hold water. In addition, the researcher pointed out that insider selling activity has picked up — most notably, CEO Alex Karp sold $398 million worth of PLTR stock on November 13.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">That’s not to say that he is completely bearish when it comes to the business — while he urged caution, the Jefferies analyst added that investors should wait for a better entry point — suggesting that, though he does believe in the company’s continued success, he foresees a steep correction in the short and medium term.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1686302271270","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Palantir Stock in Trouble? Jefferies Predicts a 60% Crash</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Palantir Stock in Trouble? Jefferies Predicts a 60% Crash\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-20 16:05 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finbold.com/is-palantir-stock-in-trouble-jefferies-predicts-a-60-crash/><strong>Finbold</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finbold.com/is-palantir-stock-in-trouble-jefferies-predicts-a-60-crash/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://finbold.com/is-palantir-stock-in-trouble-jefferies-predicts-a-60-crash/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1101873677","content_text":"Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big data analytics company Palantir (NYSE: PLTR) could secure better yearly returns.Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crashAfter all, it is currently in the lead — whereas NVDA is up 196.86% since the beginning of the year, PLTR has secured gains of 266.80% in the same timeframe. Palantir stock closed higher 2.81% at $62.98 apiece on Tuesday.Palantir has long been a favorite of retail investors — in contrast, institutional investors spent most of the last couple of years openly doubting the stock. After a standout Q3 2024 earnings call on November 4, that perspective has shifted — hedge funds are now purchasing large quantities of PLTR shares, while Wall Street equity analysts are setting increasingly higher price targets.It would not be a stretch to say that an atmosphere of greed is present — and with the hype surrounding both the wider AI industry and Palantir, it’s more important than ever to take note of and heed dissenting voices. Valuation has long been one of the primary concerns surrounding the Alex Karp-led business — and the recent surge in price has done nothing to dispel those worries.In stark contrast with most of his colleagues, one Jefferies researcher has set a price target that would correspond with a 60% decrease in PLTR share price — let’s take a closer look at his rationale.Jefferies analyst Brent Thill sees significant downside for PLTR stockOn November 7, Jefferies software and internet researcher Brent Thill downgraded Palantir stock to ‘Underperform’ from his prior ‘Hold’ rating. His previous price target of $28 remains unchanged.Shares of the AI software infrastructure company are currently trading at a 43 times multiple of its calendar 2025 revenue. As noted by Thill, the last time such conditions were seen in the tech sector was the Covid bubble. However, seeing as how macro conditions have normalized, this is no longer a common sight — Palantir’s multiple is currently over four times as large as its next comparable peer.The expert added that although Palantir’s fundamentals ‘are alive,’ the company would have to accelerate growth to 40% for four years straight and trade at 12x estimated 2028 revenue ‘just for the stock to hold its price, which seems unlikely.’At present, Thill deems even current prices unsustainable — and his arguments seem to hold water. In addition, the researcher pointed out that insider selling activity has picked up — most notably, CEO Alex Karp sold $398 million worth of PLTR stock on November 13.That’s not to say that he is completely bearish when it comes to the business — while he urged caution, the Jefferies analyst added that investors should wait for a better entry point — suggesting that, though he does believe in the company’s continued success, he foresees a steep correction in the short and medium term.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":60,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":369700390928560,"gmtCreate":1731300426325,"gmtModify":1731300430265,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I would do a buy out instead 😃","listText":"I would do a buy out instead 😃","text":"I would do a buy out instead 😃","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/369700390928560","repostId":"1189041364","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1189041364","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1731293746,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1189041364?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-11 10:55","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Option Witch | Is Tesla Worth Buying Here After Its Huge Runup? Shorting Puts to Play TSLA","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1189041364","media":"Barchart","summary":"Tesla Inc stock has had a huge runup. TSLA is up over 26% in the past three days. Is it worth buying here?It's obvious that Elon Musk's relationship with President-elect Trump is one reason it spiked. But is TSLA stock overvalued now?","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla Inc stock has had a huge runup. TSLA is up over 26% in the past three days. Is it worth buying here? It&#39;s obvious that Elon Musk&#39;s relationship with President-elect Trump is one reason it spiked. But is TSLA stock overvalued now?</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA closed at $321.22 on Friday, Nov. 8. That is even higher than my previous price target of $306.72.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a1c775b4f297154da1077bb688a0d185\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"923\" tg-height=\"522\"/></p><p>I&#39;ve looked at Tesla&#39;s results again and analysts&#39; revenue estimates. Based on its strong FCF margins, TSLA stock could be worth over 21% more, or $389 per share. However, that might take well over a year to achieve. Moreover, in the short term, TSLA stock could pull back.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">As a result, shorting out-of-the-money (OTM) put options may be one profitable way to play this situation. This allows you to set a lower buy-in price target and get paid while waiting for this to happen.</p><h3 id=\"id_1346239542\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Shorting OTM Puts</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA put options are very high now. Therefore, it makes sense to short them in nearby expiry periods and in out-of-the-money (OTM) strike prices.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">That way the investor can generate income and set a lower buy-in price target while waiting for the stock to retreat.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">For example, look at the Nov. 22, 2024, expiration period, just 2 weeks away. It shows that the $300 strike price put option, which is over 6.6% below the trading price, has a $7.70 bid-side premium.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">That provides an annual yield of 70% to the short-seller of these puts.</p><p><a href=\"https://ttm.financial/OPT/TSLA%2020241122%20300.0%20PUT\" title=\"$TSLA 20241122 300.0 PUT$\" target=\"_blank\">$TSLA 20241122 300.0 PUT$</a></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6e412db15c92531058c998b2eaf0ff8c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1118\" tg-height=\"515\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Here is what this means. Let&#39;s say that the investor wants to short 1 put contract. They must first secure $30,000 in cash and/or buying power with their brokerage firm.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Then, they can enter a trade to “Sell to Open” 1 contract to sell $300.00 strike price put options for expiry on Nov. 22. The account will immediately receive $770.00.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Moreover, even if the stock falls in the next two weeks, the investor will be forced to buy at $300.00, but the breakeven price is $300-$7.70, or $292.30. That is well below Friday&#39;s close, i.e., 9.0% below $321.22. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">So, there is good downside protection. In that regard, note that the delta ratio is only -0.277, i.e., 27% probability. That implies a low chance that the stock could hit $300 in less than 2 weeks.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In addition, if TSLA stock stays flat for the next month, the investor can repeat this trade. If the short-put yield stays high, the investor could make over 5.1% in the next month (i.e., 2.567% x 2 = 5.134%). Moreover, the breakeven would be 5.134% lower at $304.73 per share.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The bottom line is that TSLA stock could be worth buying here using a short-put play.  This is a way to set a lower buy-in price while generating income in short expiry periods.</p></body></html>","source":"barchart_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Option Witch | Is Tesla Worth Buying Here After Its Huge Runup? Shorting Puts to Play TSLA</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nOption Witch | Is Tesla Worth Buying Here After Its Huge Runup? Shorting Puts to Play TSLA\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-11 10:55 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barchart.com/story/news/29498123/is-tesla-worth-buying-here-after-its-huge-runup-shorting-puts-is-one-way-to-play-tsla><strong>Barchart</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla Inc stock has had a huge runup. TSLA is up over 26% in the past three days. Is it worth buying here? It's obvious that Elon Musk's relationship with President-elect Trump is one reason it spiked...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barchart.com/story/news/29498123/is-tesla-worth-buying-here-after-its-huge-runup-shorting-puts-is-one-way-to-play-tsla\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barchart.com/story/news/29498123/is-tesla-worth-buying-here-after-its-huge-runup-shorting-puts-is-one-way-to-play-tsla","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1189041364","content_text":"Tesla Inc stock has had a huge runup. TSLA is up over 26% in the past three days. Is it worth buying here? It's obvious that Elon Musk's relationship with President-elect Trump is one reason it spiked. But is TSLA stock overvalued now?TSLA closed at $321.22 on Friday, Nov. 8. That is even higher than my previous price target of $306.72.I've looked at Tesla's results again and analysts' revenue estimates. Based on its strong FCF margins, TSLA stock could be worth over 21% more, or $389 per share. However, that might take well over a year to achieve. Moreover, in the short term, TSLA stock could pull back.As a result, shorting out-of-the-money (OTM) put options may be one profitable way to play this situation. This allows you to set a lower buy-in price target and get paid while waiting for this to happen.Shorting OTM PutsTSLA put options are very high now. Therefore, it makes sense to short them in nearby expiry periods and in out-of-the-money (OTM) strike prices.That way the investor can generate income and set a lower buy-in price target while waiting for the stock to retreat.For example, look at the Nov. 22, 2024, expiration period, just 2 weeks away. It shows that the $300 strike price put option, which is over 6.6% below the trading price, has a $7.70 bid-side premium.That provides an annual yield of 70% to the short-seller of these puts.$TSLA 20241122 300.0 PUT$Here is what this means. Let's say that the investor wants to short 1 put contract. They must first secure $30,000 in cash and/or buying power with their brokerage firm.Then, they can enter a trade to “Sell to Open” 1 contract to sell $300.00 strike price put options for expiry on Nov. 22. The account will immediately receive $770.00.Moreover, even if the stock falls in the next two weeks, the investor will be forced to buy at $300.00, but the breakeven price is $300-$7.70, or $292.30. That is well below Friday's close, i.e., 9.0% below $321.22. So, there is good downside protection. In that regard, note that the delta ratio is only -0.277, i.e., 27% probability. That implies a low chance that the stock could hit $300 in less than 2 weeks.In addition, if TSLA stock stays flat for the next month, the investor can repeat this trade. If the short-put yield stays high, the investor could make over 5.1% in the next month (i.e., 2.567% x 2 = 5.134%). Moreover, the breakeven would be 5.134% lower at $304.73 per share.The bottom line is that TSLA stock could be worth buying here using a short-put play.  This is a way to set a lower buy-in price while generating income in short expiry periods.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":93,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":368343523803472,"gmtCreate":1730968185536,"gmtModify":1730968190382,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a> I dunno 🤷🏻‍♂️ the ATH... all I know is the it's way above its intrinsic value of $28-30... so the right thing for smart investor is to wait for the stock to retrace to a level that is or it's worth...&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a> I dunno 🤷🏻‍♂️ the ATH... all I know is the it's way above its intrinsic value of $28-30... so the right thing for smart investor is to wait for the stock to retrace to a level that is or it's worth...&nbsp;","text":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ I dunno 🤷🏻‍♂️ the ATH... all I know is the it's way above its intrinsic value of $28-30... so the right thing for smart investor is to wait for the stock to retrace to a level that is or it's worth...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/368343523803472","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":513,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":367778289422576,"gmtCreate":1730807464065,"gmtModify":1730808955191,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.&nbsp;","listText":"Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.&nbsp;","text":"Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":279,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":7,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/367778289422576","repostId":"2481765745","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2481765745","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1730806599,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2481765745?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-05 19:36","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Musk Now Says It's \"Pointless\" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2481765745","media":"Reuters","summary":"By Chris Kirkham      Nov 5  - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.   “Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.   Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be \"pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.   His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Nov 5 (Reuters) - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.</p><p>“Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.</p><p>Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be &#34;pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.</p><p>His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”</p><p>Musk responded: “We’re not making a non-robo…,” before he was interrupted by another Tesla executive. Musk later added: “Basically, I think having a regular $25K model is pointless. It would be silly.”</p><p>The April 5 Reuters article reported that Tesla had abandoned plans for an all-new, affordable mass-market EV but still planned a self-driving robotaxi. Since then, Musk has increasingly touted plans for robotaxis and autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Tesla and Musk did not respond to requests for comment for this story.</p><p>On the October earnings call, Musk said that Tesla does plan a “$25K car” – its “Cybercab,” a two-door, two-seat, fully autonomous vehicle. Musk unveiled a prototype at a Hollywood-style event on Oct. 10.</p><p>Musk says Tesla will start production of the Cybercab in 2026, after it deploys fully autonomous versions of its current Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Texas and California next year. The automaker faces steep technological, regulatory and legal challenges in delivering on Musk’s latest promises of fully autonomous vehicles, which echo others dating back about a decade.</p><p>An all-new affordable Tesla for human drivers had until recently been a linchpin of Tesla’s strategy to become the world’s biggest automaker. For several years, Tesla had a goal of producing 20 million vehicles a year by 2030, more than tenfold what it sells now and nearly double that of Toyota, the current global sales leader. In May, Tesla dropped the 20-million goal from its latest “impact report” on progress toward sustainability goals.</p><p>As recently as January of this year, Musk confirmed the plan for an all-new affordable EV in an earnings call. He said the next-generation vehicle would arrive in 2025 and launch a second major &#34;growth wave,” following the first wave with the release of its Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in 2017 and 2020, respectively.</p><p>Investors and Tesla fans commonly called the anticipated cheap car a “Model 2,” slotting in below the Model 3, currently the least-expensive Tesla, starting at $42,490.</p><p>In January, Musk described the all-new model as requiring “new revolutionary manufacturing technology.” But in April, after Reuters reported Tesla had scrapped the Model 2, Musk outlined a plan for “more affordable” models that could be produced “on the same manufacturing lines” as current Teslas.</p><p>Seth Goldstein, a Morningstar Research Services analyst, said he believes these less-expensive vehicles will be built on current Tesla platforms and priced in the mid-$30,000s.</p><p>“It was my understanding that the original plan was to make the more-affordable vehicle on a new platform,” he told Reuters. “I think Tesla realized they were late to making an affordable vehicle versus their Chinese-EV peers … So, they changed their strategy rather than make a large investment to produce a new vehicle.”</p><p>After the April 5 Reuters report that Tesla had killed the Model 2, Musk posted that day on X saying Tesla planned a “robotaxi unveil” in August. The event, delayed until October and held on a movie set near Los Angeles, underwhelmed Wall Street and drove a 9% drop in Tesla shares the following day.</p><p>Some investors viewed Musk’s comments on the Cybercab – along with displays of an autonomous “Robovan” concept and humanoid robots – as short on concrete details about the products. Tesla hasn’t said whether the Cybercab will feature new self-driving technology beyond the company’s “Full Self-Driving” feature in its current vehicles. Its existing models can’t fully drive themselves and require a human driver paying strict attention.</p><p>The target market for the Cybercab isn’t clear. The Cybercab’s sports-car looks and two-door, two-seat configuration – a nearly extinct layout in the wider U.S. auto market – puzzled some analysts who expected a robotaxi with more room for passengers and luggage.</p><p>Musk, in the October earnings call, said the concept vehicle’s design was “optimized for autonomy” and would also deliver affordability.</p><p>“It will cost … roughly 25K, so it is a 25K car,” Musk said. “It just won&#39;t have a steering wheel and pedals.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Musk Now Says It's \"Pointless\" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMusk Now Says It's \"Pointless\" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-05 19:36</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Nov 5 (Reuters) - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.</p><p>“Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.</p><p>Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be &#34;pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.</p><p>His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”</p><p>Musk responded: “We’re not making a non-robo…,” before he was interrupted by another Tesla executive. Musk later added: “Basically, I think having a regular $25K model is pointless. It would be silly.”</p><p>The April 5 Reuters article reported that Tesla had abandoned plans for an all-new, affordable mass-market EV but still planned a self-driving robotaxi. Since then, Musk has increasingly touted plans for robotaxis and autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Tesla and Musk did not respond to requests for comment for this story.</p><p>On the October earnings call, Musk said that Tesla does plan a “$25K car” – its “Cybercab,” a two-door, two-seat, fully autonomous vehicle. Musk unveiled a prototype at a Hollywood-style event on Oct. 10.</p><p>Musk says Tesla will start production of the Cybercab in 2026, after it deploys fully autonomous versions of its current Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Texas and California next year. The automaker faces steep technological, regulatory and legal challenges in delivering on Musk’s latest promises of fully autonomous vehicles, which echo others dating back about a decade.</p><p>An all-new affordable Tesla for human drivers had until recently been a linchpin of Tesla’s strategy to become the world’s biggest automaker. For several years, Tesla had a goal of producing 20 million vehicles a year by 2030, more than tenfold what it sells now and nearly double that of Toyota, the current global sales leader. In May, Tesla dropped the 20-million goal from its latest “impact report” on progress toward sustainability goals.</p><p>As recently as January of this year, Musk confirmed the plan for an all-new affordable EV in an earnings call. He said the next-generation vehicle would arrive in 2025 and launch a second major &#34;growth wave,” following the first wave with the release of its Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in 2017 and 2020, respectively.</p><p>Investors and Tesla fans commonly called the anticipated cheap car a “Model 2,” slotting in below the Model 3, currently the least-expensive Tesla, starting at $42,490.</p><p>In January, Musk described the all-new model as requiring “new revolutionary manufacturing technology.” But in April, after Reuters reported Tesla had scrapped the Model 2, Musk outlined a plan for “more affordable” models that could be produced “on the same manufacturing lines” as current Teslas.</p><p>Seth Goldstein, a Morningstar Research Services analyst, said he believes these less-expensive vehicles will be built on current Tesla platforms and priced in the mid-$30,000s.</p><p>“It was my understanding that the original plan was to make the more-affordable vehicle on a new platform,” he told Reuters. “I think Tesla realized they were late to making an affordable vehicle versus their Chinese-EV peers … So, they changed their strategy rather than make a large investment to produce a new vehicle.”</p><p>After the April 5 Reuters report that Tesla had killed the Model 2, Musk posted that day on X saying Tesla planned a “robotaxi unveil” in August. The event, delayed until October and held on a movie set near Los Angeles, underwhelmed Wall Street and drove a 9% drop in Tesla shares the following day.</p><p>Some investors viewed Musk’s comments on the Cybercab – along with displays of an autonomous “Robovan” concept and humanoid robots – as short on concrete details about the products. Tesla hasn’t said whether the Cybercab will feature new self-driving technology beyond the company’s “Full Self-Driving” feature in its current vehicles. Its existing models can’t fully drive themselves and require a human driver paying strict attention.</p><p>The target market for the Cybercab isn’t clear. The Cybercab’s sports-car looks and two-door, two-seat configuration – a nearly extinct layout in the wider U.S. auto market – puzzled some analysts who expected a robotaxi with more room for passengers and luggage.</p><p>Musk, in the October earnings call, said the concept vehicle’s design was “optimized for autonomy” and would also deliver affordability.</p><p>“It will cost … roughly 25K, so it is a 25K car,” Musk said. “It just won&#39;t have a steering wheel and pedals.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4527":"明星科技股","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","BK4581":"高盛持仓","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0964807845.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME & GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","SG9999015978.USD":"利安颠覆性创新基金A","LU2023250330.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (USD) INC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4099":"汽车制造商","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC"},"source_url":"https://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2481765745","content_text":"Nov 5 (Reuters) - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. 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For several years, Tesla had a goal of producing 20 million vehicles a year by 2030, more than tenfold what it sells now and nearly double that of Toyota, the current global sales leader. In May, Tesla dropped the 20-million goal from its latest “impact report” on progress toward sustainability goals.As recently as January of this year, Musk confirmed the plan for an all-new affordable EV in an earnings call. He said the next-generation vehicle would arrive in 2025 and launch a second major \"growth wave,” following the first wave with the release of its Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in 2017 and 2020, respectively.Investors and Tesla fans commonly called the anticipated cheap car a “Model 2,” slotting in below the Model 3, currently the least-expensive Tesla, starting at $42,490.In January, Musk described the all-new model as requiring “new revolutionary manufacturing technology.” But in April, after Reuters reported Tesla had scrapped the Model 2, Musk outlined a plan for “more affordable” models that could be produced “on the same manufacturing lines” as current Teslas.Seth Goldstein, a Morningstar Research Services analyst, said he believes these less-expensive vehicles will be built on current Tesla platforms and priced in the mid-$30,000s.“It was my understanding that the original plan was to make the more-affordable vehicle on a new platform,” he told Reuters. “I think Tesla realized they were late to making an affordable vehicle versus their Chinese-EV peers … So, they changed their strategy rather than make a large investment to produce a new vehicle.”After the April 5 Reuters report that Tesla had killed the Model 2, Musk posted that day on X saying Tesla planned a “robotaxi unveil” in August. 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Bilibili, a video-sharing site, declined 1.17%, and electric-vehicle maker NIO fell 2.1%. The Hang Seng Index in Hong Kong fell 1.6% on Monday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/83a06ee94095a00ef78c655b809787c6\" tg-width=\"362\" tg-height=\"728\"/></p><p>The moves follow fresh stimulus from the People’s Bank of China. The central bank for the world’s second-biggest economy lowered two key lending rates, designed to help the housing market and bolster consumer spending.</p><p>Chinese officials ignited a stock rally in September by announcing the start of a series of measures to bolster growth. The government is trying to hit a 5% growth target for the year—in the third quarter the pace was just 4.6%, the slowest in six quarters.</p><p>But the euphoria has faded somewhat since then as investors worried whether it will be enough. The reaction to the latest rate cuts suggest it’s still not, but there are likely more announcements to come. Should one be a big bazooka move beyond what’s already priced in it would likely move stocks and markets.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba, JD.com, NIO Stocks Fall. 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Why New China Stimulus Fell Short\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-10-21 20:30</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Chinese stocks with American depositary receipts were falling early Monday even after China’s central bank lowered interest rates.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Retailer Alibaba fell 2.5% in the premarket, and rival JD.com fell 1.5%. Bilibili, a video-sharing site, declined 1.17%, and electric-vehicle maker NIO fell 2.1%. The Hang Seng Index in Hong Kong fell 1.6% on Monday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/83a06ee94095a00ef78c655b809787c6\" tg-width=\"362\" tg-height=\"728\"/></p><p>The moves follow fresh stimulus from the People’s Bank of China. The central bank for the world’s second-biggest economy lowered two key lending rates, designed to help the housing market and bolster consumer spending.</p><p>Chinese officials ignited a stock rally in September by announcing the start of a series of measures to bolster growth. The government is trying to hit a 5% growth target for the year—in the third quarter the pace was just 4.6%, the slowest in six quarters.</p><p>But the euphoria has faded somewhat since then as investors worried whether it will be enough. The reaction to the latest rate cuts suggest it’s still not, but there are likely more announcements to come. Should one be a big bazooka move beyond what’s already priced in it would likely move stocks and markets.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"89618":"京东集团-SWR","89988":"阿里巴巴-WR","BK1142":"互联网与直销零售","HK0000320223.HKD":"TAIKANG KAITAI CHINA NEW OPPORTUNITIES FUND \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU0173614495.USD":"富达中国焦点A","BK4513":"直播概念","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","HK0000320264.USD":"TAIKANG KAITAI CHINA NEW OPPORTUNITIES FUND \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK1501":"阿里概念股","09618":"京东集团-SW","IE00BMPRXN33.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN 5G CONNECTIVITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0791591158.USD":"ALLSPRING  EMERGING MARKTES EQUITY INCOME \"I\" (USD) ACC","BILI":"哔哩哔哩","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0348735423.USD":"ALLIANZ HONG KONG EQUITY \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0049853897.USD":"SCHRODER ISF EMERGING MARKETS \"A\" (USD) INC AV","LU0132412106.USD":"abrdn SICAV I - EMERGING MARKETS EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0320764599.SGD":"FTIF - Templeton China A Acc SGD","BK4566":"资本集团","BK4509":"腾讯概念","LU0588545730.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS ASIAN EQUITY INCOME \"ADM\" (USD) INC","LU0244354667.USD":"SCHRODER ISF CHINA OPPORTUNITIES \"A\" ACC","IE00BPRC5H50.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN CHINA EQUITY \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4524":"宅经济概念","IE00BMPRXR70.SGD":"Neuberger Berman 5G Connectivity A Acc SGD-H","09866":"蔚来-SW","BK4577":"网络游戏","LU0163747925.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS ASIAN EQUITY A ACC","LU0307460666.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS CHINA EQUITY \"A\" ACC","BABA":"阿里巴巴","BK4579":"人工智能","BK4588":"碎股","LU0348825331.USD":"ALLIANZ CHINA EQUITY \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0488056044.USD":"Allianz Asian Multi Income Plus Cl AM DIS USD","LU0384037296.USD":"ALLIANZ ASIAN MULTI INCOME PLUS \"AT\" (USD) ACC","LU1282649067.USD":"ALLIANZ ASIAN MULTI INCOME PLUS \"AMG\" (USD) INC A","JD":"京东","BK1521":"挪威政府全球养老基金持仓","LU0456846285.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - Greater China A (acc) SGD","09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BK1610":"ETF&股票定投概念","BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","IE00B543WZ88.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN CHINA EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4085":"互动家庭娱乐","LU0164872284.USD":"HSBC GIF GLOBAL EMERGING MARKETS EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","NIO":"蔚来","LU0029874905.USD":"TEMPLETON EMERGING MARKETS \"A\" INC","LU0043850808.USD":"HSBC GIF ASIA EX JAPAN EQUITY \"AD\" INC"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2477851061","content_text":"Chinese stocks with American depositary receipts were falling early Monday even after China’s central bank lowered interest rates.Retailer Alibaba fell 2.5% in the premarket, and rival JD.com fell 1.5%. Bilibili, a video-sharing site, declined 1.17%, and electric-vehicle maker NIO fell 2.1%. The Hang Seng Index in Hong Kong fell 1.6% on Monday.The moves follow fresh stimulus from the People’s Bank of China. The central bank for the world’s second-biggest economy lowered two key lending rates, designed to help the housing market and bolster consumer spending.Chinese officials ignited a stock rally in September by announcing the start of a series of measures to bolster growth. The government is trying to hit a 5% growth target for the year—in the third quarter the pace was just 4.6%, the slowest in six quarters.But the euphoria has faded somewhat since then as investors worried whether it will be enough. The reaction to the latest rate cuts suggest it’s still not, but there are likely more announcements to come. Should one be a big bazooka move beyond what’s already priced in it would likely move stocks and markets.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":95,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":357455836115272,"gmtCreate":1728271576463,"gmtModify":1728271580188,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Those value trapped China stocks like Baidu&nbsp;&amp; Baba are flying... more to go","listText":"Those value trapped China stocks like Baidu&nbsp;&amp; Baba are flying... more to go","text":"Those value trapped China stocks like Baidu & Baba are flying... more to go","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/357455836115272","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":143,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":356427352506752,"gmtCreate":1728027871792,"gmtModify":1728027875629,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"These ppl are still hoping / praying perhaps to convince more that China is just a temp rebound and would be normAlice's.. so that they won't need to cover their short...&nbsp;","listText":"These ppl are still hoping / praying perhaps to convince more that China is just a temp rebound and would be normAlice's.. so that they won't need to cover their short...&nbsp;","text":"These ppl are still hoping / praying perhaps to convince more that China is just a temp rebound and would be normAlice's.. so that they won't need to cover their short...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/356427352506752","repostId":"2472606557","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2472606557","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1728014400,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2472606557?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-04 12:00","market":"sh","language":"en","title":"Lack of China Tech Short Covering Means Rally Is Fresh Buying","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2472606557","media":"Bloomberg","summary":" -- Chinese tech stocks have had a tremendous rally since the nation announced its stimulus spree. And this time, it may be real.Short positions on American Depositary Receipts of major companies including Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., JD.com Inc. and Baidu Inc. haven’t changed dramatically in recent days, according S3 Partners and JPMorgan Chase & Co. That could be good news for the market.“The sharp rally in Chinese ADRs over the past week has been mostly the result of fresh buying rather than short covering,” JPMorgan Chase & Co. strategists including Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou wrote in a note this week. “Short covering in individual stocks appears to have played only a modest role in the Chinese equity rally.”The Hang Seng Tech Index, which tracks 30 Chinese tech companies listed in Hong Kong, has soared more than 45% in less than four weeks, including a record surge in the six days through Wednesday. 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If the bears were forced out of their bets, the rally could get further momentum.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“The sharp rally in Chinese ADRs over the past week has been mostly the result of fresh buying rather than short covering,” JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co. strategists including Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou wrote in a note this week. “Short covering in individual stocks appears to have played only a modest role in the Chinese equity rally.”</p><p>The Hang Seng Tech Index, which tracks 30 Chinese tech companies listed in Hong Kong, has soared more than 45% in less than four weeks, including a record surge in the six days through Wednesday. Alibaba, JD.com and food-delivery company Meituan were among those that had some of their best trading days in years as investors swept up in a buying spree after the Chinese government announced measures to stimulate the troubled domestic economy. The tech gauge climbed on Friday for the seventh in eight days.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3f2f54faf100a7b72e399d4ec6685d7b\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\"/></p><p>While short sellers have incurred mark-to-market losses, there hasn’t been a rush to cover bearish bets, Ihor Dusaniwsky, managing director of predictive analytics for S3 wrote in an Oct. 1 report. The short interest for Alibaba, JD.com and Baidu had remained around 2% to 3% of shares available. Should the rally continue, though, expect a “significant amount” of short covering, which will push up stock prices even further, Dusaniwsky warned.</p><p>“The data is surprising as the magnitude of the bounce will normally cause shorts to be wiped out many times over and forced-covered in a traditional risk monitoring and control framework,” said Han Piow Liew, a fund manager at Maitri Asset Management Pte. “The latest round of stimulus pivot by the Chinese government shows that the leadership has significant zeal and intent to turn things around.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Chinese tech stocks have had a tough few years. While the nation’s economy weakened, a government supervision on the sector and fierce e-commerce competition hurt results at the firms that once were market darlings.</p><p>Short sellers who are holding on to their positions may be doing so because they’re skeptical on the recent rally, according to Sonija Li, an analyst at MIB Securities Hong Kong Ltd. Morningstar Inc.’s Chelsey Tam notes that consumers’ “downtrading trend” is still pronounced in sectors including e-commerce, travel and food delivery.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Still, when it comes to the options market, bulls are alive and well. Bets for gains on a US exchange-traded fund tracking China’s large-cap stocks are near their priciest ever relative to bearish wagers after record call trading. Alibaba’s and JD.com — companies that have seen a burst of bullish options trading recently — are among its biggest components.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Lack of China Tech Short Covering Means Rally Is Fresh Buying</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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}\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nLack of China Tech Short Covering Means Rally Is Fresh Buying\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-10-04 12:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-04/lack-of-china-tech-short-covering-means-rally-is-fresh-buying?srnd=homepage-americas><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Hang Seng Tech Index up more than 45% in less than four weeksShort positions on Alibaba, JD.com and Baidu stayed stableChinese tech stocks have had a tremendous rally since the nation announced its ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-04/lack-of-china-tech-short-covering-means-rally-is-fresh-buying?srnd=homepage-americas\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"000001.SH":"上证指数","LU1051768304.USD":"贝莱德新兴市场股票收益A6","IE00BKVL7J92.USD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - US Equity Sustainability Leaders A Acc USD","IE00BFMHRM44.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN GLOBAL EQUITY MEGATRENDS \"A\" (USD) ACC","JD":"京东","BIDU":"百度","LU0251143458.SGD":"Fidelity Emerging Markets A-SGD","LU0651946864.USD":"贝莱德新兴市场股票收益A2","LU0731783394.SGD":"Fidelity Global Dividend A-MINCOME(G)-SGD","LU0052756011.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL BALANCED \"A\" (USD) INC","YINN":"三倍做多富时中国ETF-Direxion","LU0942090050.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - US TOTAL YIELD SUSTAINABLE \"P\" (USD)  INC","SG9999002224.SGD":"Allianz Global High Payout SGD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","IE00BVYPNV92.GBP":"GUINNESS GLOBAL EQUITY INCOME \"C\" (GBP) ACC","IE00B0JY6N72.USD":"PINEBRIDGE GLOBAL EMERGING MARKETS FOCUS EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","IE00BVYPNW00.USD":"GUINNESS GLOBAL EQUITY INCOME \"C\" (USD) ACC","LU1430594728.SGD":"Eastspring Investments - Global Low Volatility Equity AS SGD","LU1244550221.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL MULTI-ASSET  INCOME \"A\" (USDHEDGED) INC (M)","LU1688375341.USD":"贝莱德中国灵活股票基金","LU1244550494.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL MULTI-ASSET INCOME \"A\" (USDHEDGED) ACC","BK4575":"芯片概念","BK4587":"ChatGPT概念","BK4560":"网络安全概念","LU1105468828.SGD":"Allianz Total Return Asian Equity AM DIS H2-SGD","PDD":"拼多多","LU1880383366.USD":"东方汇理中国股票基金 A2 (C)","BK4525":"远程办公概念","IE00BFXG1179.USD":"BNY MELLON U.S. EQUITY INCOME \"B\" (USD) INC","LU1059921491.USD":"NORDEA 1 GLOBAL STABLE EQUITY \"HB\" (USDHDG) ACC","BK4524":"宅经济概念","DRAG":"中国龙ETF-Roundhill","BK4020":"通信设备","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4588":"碎股","LU1506573853.SGD":"MANULIFE GF GLOBAL EQUITY \"AA\" (SGD) INC","BK4579":"人工智能","BK4526":"热门中概股","IE00B3T34201.USD":"BNY MELLON GLOBAL EQUITY INCOME \"B\" (USD) INC","BK4503":"景林资产持仓","HSI":"恒生指数","LU0310800965.SGD":"FTIF - Templeton Global Balanced A Acc SGD","BK4502":"阿里概念","LU1066053197.SGD":"HSBC GIF GLOBAL EQUITY VOLATILITY FOCUSED \"AM3\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU1046422090.SGD":"Fidelity Pacific A-SGD","BABA":"阿里巴巴","SG9999002232.USD":"Allianz Global High Payout USD","LU1046421795.USD":"富达环球科技A-ACC","LU0348816934.USD":"ALLIANZ TOTAL RETURN ASIAN EQUITY \"AT\" (USD)","LU1883839398.USD":"AMUNDI FUNDS INCOME OPPORTUNITIES \"A2\" (USD) ACC","BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","09988":"阿里巴巴-W","LU0918141705.HKD":"ALLIANZ TOTAL RETURN ASIAN EQUITY \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU1515016050.SGD":"Blackrock Emerging Markets Equity Income A6 SGD-H","BK4504":"桥水持仓"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-04/lack-of-china-tech-short-covering-means-rally-is-fresh-buying?srnd=homepage-americas","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2472606557","content_text":"Hang Seng Tech Index up more than 45% in less than four weeksShort positions on Alibaba, JD.com and Baidu stayed stableChinese tech stocks have had a tremendous rally since the nation announced its stimulus spree. And all signs point to fresh buying being the main cause.Short positions on American Depositary Receipts of major companies including Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., JD.com Inc. and Baidu Inc. haven’t changed dramatically in recent days, according S3 Partners and JPMorgan Chase & Co. If the bears were forced out of their bets, the rally could get further momentum.“The sharp rally in Chinese ADRs over the past week has been mostly the result of fresh buying rather than short covering,” JPMorgan Chase & Co. strategists including Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou wrote in a note this week. “Short covering in individual stocks appears to have played only a modest role in the Chinese equity rally.”The Hang Seng Tech Index, which tracks 30 Chinese tech companies listed in Hong Kong, has soared more than 45% in less than four weeks, including a record surge in the six days through Wednesday. Alibaba, JD.com and food-delivery company Meituan were among those that had some of their best trading days in years as investors swept up in a buying spree after the Chinese government announced measures to stimulate the troubled domestic economy. The tech gauge climbed on Friday for the seventh in eight days.While short sellers have incurred mark-to-market losses, there hasn’t been a rush to cover bearish bets, Ihor Dusaniwsky, managing director of predictive analytics for S3 wrote in an Oct. 1 report. The short interest for Alibaba, JD.com and Baidu had remained around 2% to 3% of shares available. Should the rally continue, though, expect a “significant amount” of short covering, which will push up stock prices even further, Dusaniwsky warned.“The data is surprising as the magnitude of the bounce will normally cause shorts to be wiped out many times over and forced-covered in a traditional risk monitoring and control framework,” said Han Piow Liew, a fund manager at Maitri Asset Management Pte. “The latest round of stimulus pivot by the Chinese government shows that the leadership has significant zeal and intent to turn things around.”Chinese tech stocks have had a tough few years. While the nation’s economy weakened, a government supervision on the sector and fierce e-commerce competition hurt results at the firms that once were market darlings.Short sellers who are holding on to their positions may be doing so because they’re skeptical on the recent rally, according to Sonija Li, an analyst at MIB Securities Hong Kong Ltd. Morningstar Inc.’s Chelsey Tam notes that consumers’ “downtrading trend” is still pronounced in sectors including e-commerce, travel and food delivery.Still, when it comes to the options market, bulls are alive and well. Bets for gains on a US exchange-traded fund tracking China’s large-cap stocks are near their priciest ever relative to bearish wagers after record call trading. Alibaba’s and JD.com — companies that have seen a burst of bullish options trading recently — are among its biggest components.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":75,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":355842923147680,"gmtCreate":1727879123579,"gmtModify":1727879126722,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"😂&nbsp;","listText":"😂&nbsp;","text":"😂","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/355842923147680","repostId":"2472528518","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2472528518","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1727878168,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2472528518?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-02 22:09","market":"us","language":"en","title":"US to Award up to $100 Million to Boost Use of AI for Semiconductor Materials","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2472528518","media":"Reuters","summary":"WASHINGTON, Oct 2  - The U.S. Commerce Department said Wednesday it plans to award $100 million to boost the use of artificial intelligence in developing new sustainable semiconductor materials.   The department, which is overseeing $52.7 billion in U.S. chips manufacturing and research grants, plans to award $100 million to help universities, national laboratories and the private sector develop AI-powered autonomous experimentation for sustainable semiconductor manufacturing. The goal is to reduce time needed to develop new semiconductor materials that are less resource-intensive. ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - The U.S. Commerce Department said Wednesday it plans to award $100 million to boost the use of artificial intelligence in developing new sustainable semiconductor materials.</p><p>Semiconductor shares gained on the news. Applied Materials, Marvell Technology, Broadcom rose over 2%; Qualcomm, AMD, Nvidia rose around 1%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bc13294ff10d8e5ff62534edaa353e75\" tg-width=\"432\" tg-height=\"781\"/></p><p>The department, which is overseeing $52.7 billion in U.S. chips manufacturing and research grants, plans to award $100 million to help universities, national laboratories and the private sector develop AI-powered autonomous experimentation for sustainable semiconductor manufacturing. The goal is to reduce time needed to develop new semiconductor materials that are less resource-intensive.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>US to Award up to $100 Million to Boost Use of AI for Semiconductor Materials</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nUS to Award up to $100 Million to Boost Use of AI for Semiconductor Materials\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-10-02 22:09</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - The U.S. Commerce Department said Wednesday it plans to award $100 million to boost the use of artificial intelligence in developing new sustainable semiconductor materials.</p><p>Semiconductor shares gained on the news. Applied Materials, Marvell Technology, Broadcom rose over 2%; Qualcomm, AMD, Nvidia rose around 1%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bc13294ff10d8e5ff62534edaa353e75\" tg-width=\"432\" tg-height=\"781\"/></p><p>The department, which is overseeing $52.7 billion in U.S. chips manufacturing and research grants, plans to award $100 million to help universities, national laboratories and the private sector develop AI-powered autonomous experimentation for sustainable semiconductor manufacturing. The goal is to reduce time needed to develop new semiconductor materials that are less resource-intensive.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMAT":"应用材料","AVGO":"博通","QCOM":"高通","NVDA":"英伟达","AMD":"美国超微公司"},"source_url":"https://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2472528518","content_text":"(Reuters) - The U.S. Commerce Department said Wednesday it plans to award $100 million to boost the use of artificial intelligence in developing new sustainable semiconductor materials.Semiconductor shares gained on the news. Applied Materials, Marvell Technology, Broadcom rose over 2%; Qualcomm, AMD, Nvidia rose around 1%.The department, which is overseeing $52.7 billion in U.S. chips manufacturing and research grants, plans to award $100 million to help universities, national laboratories and the private sector develop AI-powered autonomous experimentation for sustainable semiconductor manufacturing. The goal is to reduce time needed to develop new semiconductor materials that are less resource-intensive.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":213,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":355725646078352,"gmtCreate":1727856557183,"gmtModify":1727856561006,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"All I can say is not to go against market... do your own diligence n don't listen to prata man","listText":"All I can say is not to go against market... do your own diligence n don't listen to prata man","text":"All I can say is not to go against market... do your own diligence n don't listen to prata man","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/355725646078352","repostId":"2472556389","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2472556389","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1727852611,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2472556389?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-02 15:03","market":"sh","language":"en","title":"Option Witch | Is It Time To Sell BABA Puts Given the Extremely High IV?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2472556389","media":"Seekingalpha","summary":") Now That The Rally Has Begun, What Should We Do?At this point, I think it would make sense to close out the long calls. BABA and FXI IV rank are both at the 99th percentile, meaning both tickers have had the h","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Recent Chinese stimulus has driven Alibaba stock up, validating my recommendation to buy long-dated call options for explosive upside while capping downside.</p></li><li><p>With BABA&#39;s implied volatility at extreme highs, it&#39;s time to close long calls and start selling out-of-the-money puts to capitalize on premium decay.</p></li><li><p>Shorting puts expiring in under 60 days offers a reasonable risk-reward, given the high IV and the Chinese government&#39;s support for economic stability.</p></li><li><p>Alibaba&#39;s strong fundamentals, massive buyback program, and potential in AI make shorting puts a compelling strategy amidst current market conditions.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/462cd3697f83bcec3578c700effe99fc\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>maybefalse</p><p></p><p>A few weeks ago, I published &#34;Alibaba Call Options: Michael Burry Backs Up The Truck,&#34; where I analyzed the recent developments and catalysts for Alibaba (NYSE:BABA) stock. I concluded that the best way to play it would be to purchase OTM, long-dated call options. The reasoning was that further declines were possible and that the calls would allow for explosive upside while capping the downside at the premium paid.</p><p>This thesis has played out spectacularly. Chinese stocks have soared following the massive stimulus announced by the PBoC on 24 September 2024. Sentiment was awful but has turned decisively bullish in the face of this macro development. We are seeing the market quickly revalue Chinese assets in the light of this stimulus. The Chinese government wants to restore confidence and is determined to do it with policies which will dramatically expand the amount of RMB liquidity.</p><p>BABA&#39;s 1-month chart is as follows.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9421309d3b1d3ee1f00c50cb2ec9ad7e\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"442\"/></p><p>BABA 1 Month (Seeking Alpha)</p><p>The charts for FXI and many other Chinese tickers all look very similar. My suggestion was to purchase BABA&#39;s 120 calls, expiring in September 2025. These were trading at $320 per contract when I wrote the article. As of Friday 27 September 2024, the same calls were trading at over $1200 - roughly a 4x on invested capital.</p><p>At the time, I received some comments saying that short puts were a better choice because long options meant you are paying theta (time decay on an option&#39;s premium). My reasoning for choosing long calls was that I viewed short volatility (especially downside) as inherently risky for Chinese assets, given the unpredictability of the CCP. I also disliked that gamma (option convexity) would be working against me. Given the awful sentiment, any reversal in sentiment would likely have been met with an explosive upside, which means that having convexity would be a good thing. Long calls were the better choice.</p><p>As it stands, short puts have likely dramatically underperformed long calls.</p><p>On 18 August, the BABA 75 put expiring in September 2025 was about $670. Now it is $250. Shorting this contract would have been a 62% gain, which is nowhere close to a 4x.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f4857a4a9b7527b79fd3c3e2baff22a9\" tg-width=\"1039\" tg-height=\"580\"/></p><p>BABA put price (Yahoo!)</p><h2 id=\"id_842866675\">Now That The Rally Has Begun, What Should We Do?</h2><p>At this point, I think it would make sense to close out the long calls. BABA and FXI IV rank are both at the 99th percentile, meaning both tickers have had the highest implied volatilities in a year. This means that options are at relative nosebleed highs, based on the trend of IV.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/283a047018b5fc5b7ad96b93647bfa84\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"392\"/></p><p>BABA IV rank (marketchameleon)</p><p>Moreover, the IV skew between BABA calls and puts have reached extreme levels of bullishness. The IV of 25 delta call options are over 6 points higher than the IV of 25 delta put options. This spread generally oscillates between -2 and 0, so the current situation means there is tremendous demand for OTM calls. This is very abnormal, to put it lightly.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/575c6350f1a1a3690a110f76838e01ad\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"489\"/></p><p>BABA IV skew (marketchameleon)</p><p>When you own something, the best time to sell it is usually during times when there is extremely, abnormally high demand for it. I think exiting long calls would be good, especially because IV is likely to come back down.</p><p>If you want to continue trading BABA options, I suggest selling puts expiring in under 60 days in the 5-40 delta range. Shorter maturities maximize theta. I think it is also better to be short volatility only over the short term. I still believe there are substantial long-term risks in Chinese stocks. The immediate future seems very much clear of such risks, given the dovishness of the PBoC and Chinese government.</p><p>Selling puts makes sense at this time because IV is likely due to fall back down. I don&#39;t think BABA will crash back to the $75-85 range in the next 60 days. The sentiment has decisively shifted, now that the CCP has thrown its weight behind supporting the Chinese economy at all costs. This takes away some of the risks in selling puts (discussed more below). Think of the high IV that is due to come down and the dovish CCP that is pumping Chinese stocks as two layers of margin of safety for the short put trade.</p><p>The other thing to do is to just leave it and find something else to trade. There&#39;s no dire need to sell puts and take on more risk in BABA. Personally, I dislike the idea of owning BABA shares. I don&#39;t see it as a long-term hold, given the political risk from the CCP. However, a speculative buy to ride the bullish momentum could also be considered.</p><h2 id=\"id_194454114\">Risks To Trade and Risk Management</h2><p>The risks to selling OTM puts expiring under 60 days, is that the trader stands to lose the difference between the strike price of the put and the BABA spot price, if the option expires OTM. Thanks to the convexity of options, this could be multiples more than the premium received for selling the put.</p><p>Therefore, it only makes sense to sell the puts if you believe that BABA won&#39;t go down or if you are comfortable owning BABA at the strike price of the put, even if BABA has a big pullback. One way to mitigate risk is to sell cash secured puts, in which you already have the cash to buy 100 BABA shares at the strike price, should the put be exercised.</p><p>Another risk management procedure would be to close the position at a predefined stop loss. For instance, if the market value of the put ever becomes 3x the premium received, then you will just buy back the put and realize the loss. When selling naked options, it is advisable to have some robust risk management procedures in place.</p><p>For puts with less than 60 DTE, your timeframe is for the next 60 days. Given the bullish sentiment around the Chinese stimulus, I think the risk-reward is quite favorable for the next 60 days. It would look very strange for the CCP to suddenly come out with a very hawkish tone within such a short time of announcing this stimulus.</p><h2 id=\"id_2656840015\">Last Thoughts: Fundamental Picture For BABA Is Good</h2><p>I covered this in the last article, but BABA&#39;s fundamentals as a business are considerably good. The only real question was that, like all Chinese companies, the CCP has an outsized influence. BABA is running with a massive buyback program, which will put a sustained bid on shares. Meanwhile, even more recent developments, such as the launch of many bleeding-edge open-source AI models, makes the case for BABA as a possible AI play too.</p><p>BABA has long been one of the major big tech companies in China, especially considering the long-term dominance of Alibaba Cloud. BABA certainly has the data and human capital needed to build and remain competitive in AI. If they can roll out impressive products in AI and take market share from Western alternatives, then we could see AI become a very meaningful segment, which will power many more buybacks in the near future.</p><p>My thoughts on all this? Assuming the CCP doesn&#39;t do anything drastic, BABA could be a value tech stock right here and now. It is dreadfully undervalued based on most metrics, and it has the potential for driving significant growth in the AI space - just see Seeking Alpha&#39;s quant grades for profitability and valuation, in which most of the grades are B or better. But this is, again, assuming the CCP doesn&#39;t do anything drastic. That is a big assumption for me. I continue to rate the stock a Hold, but view the BABA options market as a viable venue for intelligent trading.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Option Witch | Is It Time To Sell BABA Puts Given the Extremely High IV?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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I concluded that the best way to play it would be to purchase OTM, long-dated call options. The reasoning was that further declines were possible and that the calls would allow for explosive upside while capping the downside at the premium paid.This thesis has played out spectacularly. Chinese stocks have soared following the massive stimulus announced by the PBoC on 24 September 2024. Sentiment was awful but has turned decisively bullish in the face of this macro development. We are seeing the market quickly revalue Chinese assets in the light of this stimulus. The Chinese government wants to restore confidence and is determined to do it with policies which will dramatically expand the amount of RMB liquidity.BABA's 1-month chart is as follows.BABA 1 Month (Seeking Alpha)The charts for FXI and many other Chinese tickers all look very similar. My suggestion was to purchase BABA's 120 calls, expiring in September 2025. These were trading at $320 per contract when I wrote the article. As of Friday 27 September 2024, the same calls were trading at over $1200 - roughly a 4x on invested capital.At the time, I received some comments saying that short puts were a better choice because long options meant you are paying theta (time decay on an option's premium). My reasoning for choosing long calls was that I viewed short volatility (especially downside) as inherently risky for Chinese assets, given the unpredictability of the CCP. I also disliked that gamma (option convexity) would be working against me. Given the awful sentiment, any reversal in sentiment would likely have been met with an explosive upside, which means that having convexity would be a good thing. Long calls were the better choice.As it stands, short puts have likely dramatically underperformed long calls.On 18 August, the BABA 75 put expiring in September 2025 was about $670. Now it is $250. Shorting this contract would have been a 62% gain, which is nowhere close to a 4x.BABA put price (Yahoo!)Now That The Rally Has Begun, What Should We Do?At this point, I think it would make sense to close out the long calls. BABA and FXI IV rank are both at the 99th percentile, meaning both tickers have had the highest implied volatilities in a year. This means that options are at relative nosebleed highs, based on the trend of IV.BABA IV rank (marketchameleon)Moreover, the IV skew between BABA calls and puts have reached extreme levels of bullishness. The IV of 25 delta call options are over 6 points higher than the IV of 25 delta put options. This spread generally oscillates between -2 and 0, so the current situation means there is tremendous demand for OTM calls. This is very abnormal, to put it lightly.BABA IV skew (marketchameleon)When you own something, the best time to sell it is usually during times when there is extremely, abnormally high demand for it. I think exiting long calls would be good, especially because IV is likely to come back down.If you want to continue trading BABA options, I suggest selling puts expiring in under 60 days in the 5-40 delta range. Shorter maturities maximize theta. I think it is also better to be short volatility only over the short term. I still believe there are substantial long-term risks in Chinese stocks. The immediate future seems very much clear of such risks, given the dovishness of the PBoC and Chinese government.Selling puts makes sense at this time because IV is likely due to fall back down. I don't think BABA will crash back to the $75-85 range in the next 60 days. The sentiment has decisively shifted, now that the CCP has thrown its weight behind supporting the Chinese economy at all costs. This takes away some of the risks in selling puts (discussed more below). Think of the high IV that is due to come down and the dovish CCP that is pumping Chinese stocks as two layers of margin of safety for the short put trade.The other thing to do is to just leave it and find something else to trade. There's no dire need to sell puts and take on more risk in BABA. Personally, I dislike the idea of owning BABA shares. I don't see it as a long-term hold, given the political risk from the CCP. However, a speculative buy to ride the bullish momentum could also be considered.Risks To Trade and Risk ManagementThe risks to selling OTM puts expiring under 60 days, is that the trader stands to lose the difference between the strike price of the put and the BABA spot price, if the option expires OTM. Thanks to the convexity of options, this could be multiples more than the premium received for selling the put.Therefore, it only makes sense to sell the puts if you believe that BABA won't go down or if you are comfortable owning BABA at the strike price of the put, even if BABA has a big pullback. One way to mitigate risk is to sell cash secured puts, in which you already have the cash to buy 100 BABA shares at the strike price, should the put be exercised.Another risk management procedure would be to close the position at a predefined stop loss. For instance, if the market value of the put ever becomes 3x the premium received, then you will just buy back the put and realize the loss. When selling naked options, it is advisable to have some robust risk management procedures in place.For puts with less than 60 DTE, your timeframe is for the next 60 days. Given the bullish sentiment around the Chinese stimulus, I think the risk-reward is quite favorable for the next 60 days. It would look very strange for the CCP to suddenly come out with a very hawkish tone within such a short time of announcing this stimulus.Last Thoughts: Fundamental Picture For BABA Is GoodI covered this in the last article, but BABA's fundamentals as a business are considerably good. The only real question was that, like all Chinese companies, the CCP has an outsized influence. BABA is running with a massive buyback program, which will put a sustained bid on shares. Meanwhile, even more recent developments, such as the launch of many bleeding-edge open-source AI models, makes the case for BABA as a possible AI play too.BABA has long been one of the major big tech companies in China, especially considering the long-term dominance of Alibaba Cloud. BABA certainly has the data and human capital needed to build and remain competitive in AI. If they can roll out impressive products in AI and take market share from Western alternatives, then we could see AI become a very meaningful segment, which will power many more buybacks in the near future.My thoughts on all this? Assuming the CCP doesn't do anything drastic, BABA could be a value tech stock right here and now. It is dreadfully undervalued based on most metrics, and it has the potential for driving significant growth in the AI space - just see Seeking Alpha's quant grades for profitability and valuation, in which most of the grades are B or better. But this is, again, assuming the CCP doesn't do anything drastic. That is a big assumption for me. I continue to rate the stock a Hold, but view the BABA options market as a viable venue for intelligent trading.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":115,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":355106057752936,"gmtCreate":1727697900852,"gmtModify":1727697904531,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Prata man can talk... but too bad without numbers...","listText":"Prata man can talk... but too bad without numbers...","text":"Prata man can talk... but too bad without numbers...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/355106057752936","repostId":"2471854750","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2471854750","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1727697512,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2471854750?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-30 19:58","market":"sg","language":"en","title":"Micron: A Huge Buying Opportunity That You Shouldn't Miss","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2471854750","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Micron's earnings eased oversupply fears as investors realized they had been too pessimistic.Micron's business cyclicality has heightened fears. However, the AI growth inflection could sustain its cur","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Micron&#39;s earnings eased oversupply fears as investors realized they had been too pessimistic.</p></li><li><p>Micron&#39;s business cyclicality has heightened fears. However, the AI growth inflection could sustain its current upcycle momentum.</p></li><li><p>MU has highlighted its focus on gaining more share in higher-value segments, underpinning its profitability growth.</p></li><li><p>I explain why MU&#39;s bullish thesis is increasingly sustainable, notwithstanding potentially oversupply risks.</p></li><li><p>MU investors looking to accumulate more aggressively shouldn&#39;t miss buying into its recent recovery. Read on to find out more.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/96ff597cc6ca089548111037a5bae6c6\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>vzphotos</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_4022568255\">Micron Bulls Aren&#39;t Concerned With Oversupply Risks Yet</h2><p><strong>Micron Technology, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:MU) investors returned with a vengeance as the leading memory chipmaker&#39;s earnings scorecard calmed the market&#39;s nerves about potential oversupply fears. Given Micron&#39;s cyclical operating performance and a more commoditized market (relative to its logic peers), I assess that the market&#39;s caution is justified. While the memory oversupply risks have not been ruled out, robust underlying demand across MU&#39;s critical market segments is expected to underpin a solid FY2025.</p><p>In my previous bullish article on MU, I upgraded the stock, even as it plunged into a bear market following the early August collapse. Samsung&#39;s impending entry into the HBM3E segment is anticipated to intensify the competitive risks as Micron and its peers vie for market share. Consequently, I&#39;ve not been surprised with MU&#39;s recent market outperformance, as it reached an inflection point, attracting dip-buyers to return.</p><p>In Micron&#39;s FQ4&#39;24 earnings release, management assured investors that demand has remained robust, driven by secular growth levers across the PC, smartphone, and data center businesses. Micron has also stepped up efforts to gain more market share against SK Hynix in the critical HBM3E segment, assessed as a two-horse race with Micron. As a result, speed-to-market is pivotal to MU&#39;s success in potentially upending SK Hynix&#39;s leadership. I assess Micron&#39;s confident outlook and solid profitability corroborate the upcycle in its core businesses, particularly in AI servers. Furthermore, the ongoing shift to AI PCs and AI smartphones should diversify concentration risks in its data center business, driving Micron&#39;s growth inflection further.</p><p>Given the cyclicality in Micron&#39;s business, I&#39;m satisfied with management&#39;s assurance that the demand/supply dynamics are expected to remain healthy. However, investors must scrutinize the downstream inventory buildup, even as its customers anticipate a more robust sell-through as they prepare for new launches and product refreshes. In addition, there are concerns about whether the potential oversupply in the HBM market could worsen as Samsung steps up its efforts to regain control of the market leadership from SK Hynix. Notwithstanding my caution, adverse pricing dynamics have not been assessed, given the solid demand drivers attributed to the data center customers. However, investors must be prepared for possible oversupply risks from FY2026 unless we observe much more significant enterprise AI infrastructure investments and a demand surge attributed to the Sovereign AI opportunity.</p><h2 id=\"id_3259451829\">Micron&#39;s AI Growth Inflection Could Sustain</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d3bd819eb83f01b1302c3c837dfefbcd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"384\"/></p><p>Micron estimates (TIKR)</p><p></p><p>Investors must consider how Micron&#39;s cyclical swings markedly impacted its operating profitability. MU saw a collapse in FY2023 but also experienced a rapid recovery in FY2024, bolstered by the AI upcycle.</p><p>Therefore, investors must ask whether more intense competition and possible demand/supply risks in FY2026 could scupper Micron&#39;s AI growth thesis. Wall Street estimates suggest MU&#39;s upswing seems sustainable, given the underlying investments made by the leading hyperscalers and data center operators. As a result, Micron might be able to sustain its pricing levers while raising CapEx estimates to approximately in the mid-30% range of its FY2025 revenue.</p><p>Management has assured investors it anticipates building up its market share in the &#34;higher value&#34; DRAM products, including in the HBM segment. Therefore, it should help improve the company&#39;s operating leverage as it scales. I also assess that Micron is more cognizant of the challenges that affected its previous cyclical downswing, which collapsed its operating profitability.</p><p>The company has demonstrated the need to focus on inventory levels to align its production closer to underlying demand signals. As a result, I have confidence that Wall Street estimates are reasonable, suggesting the upswing could persist through FY2026, notwithstanding a growth normalization phase after FY2025.</p><h2 id=\"id_2503253872\">MU&#39;s Factor Grades Have Improved</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8e157625178b1303369f567358407103\" tg-width=\"595\" tg-height=\"324\"/></p><p>MU Quant Grades (Seeking Alpha)</p><p></p><p>MU&#39;s valuation has also improved markedly (from &#34;F&#34; to &#34;B-&#34;) as it benefited from an upswing in its operating profitability. The surge in its critical revenue segments (especially in data centers) has lifted its growth grade from &#34;C-&#34; to &#34;A+&#34; over the past six months.</p><p>Despite that, the stock has struggled with recent buying momentum (fell from &#34;A+&#34; to &#34;C+&#34;) even though MU recorded a historic post-earnings surge. The market is likely increasingly concerned with competitive risks as Samsung and SK Hynix seek to regain the narrative as the South Korean memory makers lift their game against MU.</p><h2 id=\"id_3438320438\">Is MU Stock A Buy, Sell, Or Hold?</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3c824ba2744c0f2af13cc22750bc83ec\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"394\"/></p><p>MU price chart (weekly, medium-term, adjusted for dividends) (TradingView)</p><p></p><p>It should have reassured MU investors, as buyers have held the $85 support zone constructively since early August 2024. The consolidation phase helped set up a base for the recent post-earnings spike, as investors downplayed the pessimism about potential oversupply in the HBM market.</p><p>Notwithstanding the recent improvement in buying sentiments, MU must stay above the $115 resistance zone to convince more momentum investors to return. Based on MU&#39;s price action, late profit-taking returned toward the end of last week, as investors likely took some risks off the table.</p><p>Despite that, I assess that MU&#39;s risk/reward remains favorable, given its relatively attractive valuation. Therefore, a further valuation re-rating seems increasingly likely. MU should benefit from improved investor confidence as Nvidia (NVDA) ships its Blackwell architecture AI chips in higher volume through 2025.</p><p><em>Rating: Maintain Buy.</em></p><p><em>Important note: Investors are reminded to do their due diligence and not rely on the information provided as financial advice. Consider this article as supplementing your required research. Please always apply independent thinking. Note that the rating is not intended to time a specific entry/exit at the point of writing unless otherwise specified.</em></p><h3 id=\"id_4220190019\">I Want To Hear From You</h3><p>Have constructive commentary to improve our thesis? Spotted a critical gap in our view? Saw something important that we didn&#39;t? Agree or disagree? Comment below with the aim of helping everyone in the community to learn better!</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Micron: A Huge Buying Opportunity That You Shouldn't Miss</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMicron: A Huge Buying Opportunity That You Shouldn't Miss\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-09-30 19:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4724024-micron-a-huge-buying-opportunity-that-you-shouldnt-miss><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Micron's earnings eased oversupply fears as investors realized they had been too pessimistic.Micron's business cyclicality has heightened fears. However, the AI growth inflection could sustain its ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4724024-micron-a-huge-buying-opportunity-that-you-shouldnt-miss\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU2250418816.HKD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (HKD) ACC","IE00B19Z3581.USD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc USD","LU0792757196.USD":"TEMPLETON SHARIAH GLOBAL EQUITY FUND \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0642271901.SGD":"Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology Leaders A2 SGD-H","GB00BDT5M118.USD":"天利环球扩展Alpha基金A Acc","LU2360106780.USD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A4\" (USD) INC","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4141":"半导体产品","IE00B19Z3B42.SGD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc SGD","BK4512":"苹果概念","LU0081259029.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY FUND - TECH OPPORTUNITY \"P\" (USD) ACC","MU":"美光科技","LU2286300806.USD":"Allianz Cyber Security AT Acc USD","LU1267930813.SGD":"FRANKLIN TEMPLETON SHARIAH GLOBAL EQUITY \"AS\" (SGD) ACC","BK4554":"元宇宙及AR概念","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","BK4553":"喜马拉雅资本持仓","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","IE0002270589.USD":"LEGG MASON CLEARBRIDGE VALUE \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4566":"资本集团","BK4575":"芯片概念","LU0127658192.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1316542783.SGD":"Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology Leaders A2 SGD","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4588":"碎股","LU0889566641.SGD":"FTSF - Templeton Shariah Global Equity A Acc SGD","BK4579":"人工智能","IE00B7SZLL34.SGD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc SGD-H"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4724024-micron-a-huge-buying-opportunity-that-you-shouldnt-miss","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2471854750","content_text":"Micron's earnings eased oversupply fears as investors realized they had been too pessimistic.Micron's business cyclicality has heightened fears. However, the AI growth inflection could sustain its current upcycle momentum.MU has highlighted its focus on gaining more share in higher-value segments, underpinning its profitability growth.I explain why MU's bullish thesis is increasingly sustainable, notwithstanding potentially oversupply risks.MU investors looking to accumulate more aggressively shouldn't miss buying into its recent recovery. Read on to find out more.vzphotosMicron Bulls Aren't Concerned With Oversupply Risks YetMicron Technology, Inc. (NASDAQ:MU) investors returned with a vengeance as the leading memory chipmaker's earnings scorecard calmed the market's nerves about potential oversupply fears. Given Micron's cyclical operating performance and a more commoditized market (relative to its logic peers), I assess that the market's caution is justified. While the memory oversupply risks have not been ruled out, robust underlying demand across MU's critical market segments is expected to underpin a solid FY2025.In my previous bullish article on MU, I upgraded the stock, even as it plunged into a bear market following the early August collapse. Samsung's impending entry into the HBM3E segment is anticipated to intensify the competitive risks as Micron and its peers vie for market share. Consequently, I've not been surprised with MU's recent market outperformance, as it reached an inflection point, attracting dip-buyers to return.In Micron's FQ4'24 earnings release, management assured investors that demand has remained robust, driven by secular growth levers across the PC, smartphone, and data center businesses. Micron has also stepped up efforts to gain more market share against SK Hynix in the critical HBM3E segment, assessed as a two-horse race with Micron. As a result, speed-to-market is pivotal to MU's success in potentially upending SK Hynix's leadership. I assess Micron's confident outlook and solid profitability corroborate the upcycle in its core businesses, particularly in AI servers. Furthermore, the ongoing shift to AI PCs and AI smartphones should diversify concentration risks in its data center business, driving Micron's growth inflection further.Given the cyclicality in Micron's business, I'm satisfied with management's assurance that the demand/supply dynamics are expected to remain healthy. However, investors must scrutinize the downstream inventory buildup, even as its customers anticipate a more robust sell-through as they prepare for new launches and product refreshes. In addition, there are concerns about whether the potential oversupply in the HBM market could worsen as Samsung steps up its efforts to regain control of the market leadership from SK Hynix. Notwithstanding my caution, adverse pricing dynamics have not been assessed, given the solid demand drivers attributed to the data center customers. However, investors must be prepared for possible oversupply risks from FY2026 unless we observe much more significant enterprise AI infrastructure investments and a demand surge attributed to the Sovereign AI opportunity.Micron's AI Growth Inflection Could SustainMicron estimates (TIKR)Investors must consider how Micron's cyclical swings markedly impacted its operating profitability. MU saw a collapse in FY2023 but also experienced a rapid recovery in FY2024, bolstered by the AI upcycle.Therefore, investors must ask whether more intense competition and possible demand/supply risks in FY2026 could scupper Micron's AI growth thesis. Wall Street estimates suggest MU's upswing seems sustainable, given the underlying investments made by the leading hyperscalers and data center operators. As a result, Micron might be able to sustain its pricing levers while raising CapEx estimates to approximately in the mid-30% range of its FY2025 revenue.Management has assured investors it anticipates building up its market share in the \"higher value\" DRAM products, including in the HBM segment. Therefore, it should help improve the company's operating leverage as it scales. I also assess that Micron is more cognizant of the challenges that affected its previous cyclical downswing, which collapsed its operating profitability.The company has demonstrated the need to focus on inventory levels to align its production closer to underlying demand signals. As a result, I have confidence that Wall Street estimates are reasonable, suggesting the upswing could persist through FY2026, notwithstanding a growth normalization phase after FY2025.MU's Factor Grades Have ImprovedMU Quant Grades (Seeking Alpha)MU's valuation has also improved markedly (from \"F\" to \"B-\") as it benefited from an upswing in its operating profitability. The surge in its critical revenue segments (especially in data centers) has lifted its growth grade from \"C-\" to \"A+\" over the past six months.Despite that, the stock has struggled with recent buying momentum (fell from \"A+\" to \"C+\") even though MU recorded a historic post-earnings surge. The market is likely increasingly concerned with competitive risks as Samsung and SK Hynix seek to regain the narrative as the South Korean memory makers lift their game against MU.Is MU Stock A Buy, Sell, Or Hold?MU price chart (weekly, medium-term, adjusted for dividends) (TradingView)It should have reassured MU investors, as buyers have held the $85 support zone constructively since early August 2024. The consolidation phase helped set up a base for the recent post-earnings spike, as investors downplayed the pessimism about potential oversupply in the HBM market.Notwithstanding the recent improvement in buying sentiments, MU must stay above the $115 resistance zone to convince more momentum investors to return. Based on MU's price action, late profit-taking returned toward the end of last week, as investors likely took some risks off the table.Despite that, I assess that MU's risk/reward remains favorable, given its relatively attractive valuation. Therefore, a further valuation re-rating seems increasingly likely. MU should benefit from improved investor confidence as Nvidia (NVDA) ships its Blackwell architecture AI chips in higher volume through 2025.Rating: Maintain Buy.Important note: Investors are reminded to do their due diligence and not rely on the information provided as financial advice. Consider this article as supplementing your required research. Please always apply independent thinking. Note that the rating is not intended to time a specific entry/exit at the point of writing unless otherwise specified.I Want To Hear From YouHave constructive commentary to improve our thesis? Spotted a critical gap in our view? Saw something important that we didn't? Agree or disagree? Comment below with the aim of helping everyone in the community to learn better!","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":118,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":354665406955760,"gmtCreate":1727597708815,"gmtModify":1727597712911,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"As usual, I am long for NIO","listText":"As usual, I am long for NIO","text":"As usual, I am long for NIO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/354665406955760","repostId":"1145275888","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1145275888","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1727595001,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1145275888?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-29 15:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Nio Announces $470 Million Investment in Nio China from Strategic Investors","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1145275888","media":"CnEVPost","summary":"Nio China has received a new investment of RMB 3.3 billion from strategic investors in Hefei, and Nio will also invest RMB 10 billion to subscribe for newly issued shares in Nio China.(A Nio ET5 on di","content":"<html><head></head><body><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Nio China has received a new investment of RMB 3.3 billion from strategic investors in Hefei, and Nio will also invest RMB 10 billion to subscribe for newly issued shares in Nio China.</p></blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c6943fceb166456c95b874f4f2ef9605\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"629\"/></p><p>(A Nio ET5 on display at the June 2024 Shanghai new energy vehicle show. Image credit: CnEVPost)</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Nio (NYSE: NIO) announced that Nio China has received a new investment from investors in Hefei, Anhui province, as its Chinese business operations entity receives further support from the city.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The EV maker announced today that it has entered into definitive agreements with Hefei Jianheng New Energy Automobile Investment Fund Partnership, Anhui Provincial Emerging Industry Investment Co Ltd and CS Capital Co Ltd for an investment in its 92.1 percent-owned Chinese subsidiary, Nio Holding Co Ltd (Nio China).</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The three existing strategic investors of Nio China will invest a total of RMB 3.3 billion ($470 million) in cash to subscribe for newly issued shares in Nio China, according to a statement.</p><p>At the same time, Nio will invest a total of RMB 10 billion in cash to subscribe for newly issued shares of Nio China.</p><p>Upon completion of the investment transaction, Nio will hold a controlling 88.3 percent stake in Nio China, and the strategic investors, together with other existing shareholders, will hold the remaining 11.7 percent stake in Nio China.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Nio also has the right to invest an additional RMB 20 billion to subscribe for additional shares in Nio China by December 31, 2025, at the same price and on the same terms as the investment transaction.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The transaction is subject to regulatory and internal approvals and customary closing conditions.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The strategic investors and Nio will inject capital into Nio China in two phases, with 70 percent of the strategic investment amount and Nio investment amount to be made by the end of November 2024, with the remaining 30 percent to be made by the end of December 2024.</p><p>The investment not only demonstrates the strategic investors&#39; strong support for the high-quality development of the EV industry, but also highlights their strong recognition of Nio&#39;s unique value and industry leadership, the EV maker said.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">With an enhanced balance sheet, Nio is strategically positioned to maintain its long-term advantages in technology, products, services, and user community, the company said.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">This will also drive its multi-brand strategy and penetration into wider markets, propelling the company into the next phase of sustainable growth, it said.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Nio China is a subsidiary of Nio established in Hefei, headquartered in the city, after investors from Hefei bailed out the EV maker at the end of 2019. Nio&#39;s global headquarters are located in Shanghai.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">On April 29, 2020, Nio signed an agreement with strategic investors in Hefei regarding its investment in Nio China. The strategic investors and Nio invested RMB 7.0 billion and RMB 4.26 billion, respectively, in Nio China, at the time.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Upon completion of the transaction in April 2020, both parties held 24.1 percent and 75.9 percent equity interests in Nio China, respectively, and Nio China received a capital increase of RMB 11.26 billion.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">In February 2021, Nio said it would repurchase 3.305 percent of the equity from two strategic investors in Nio China for RMB 5.5 billion. At the same time, Nio increased its equity stake in Nio China by RMB 10 billion.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Upon completion of the equity acquisition and capital subscription, Nio held an aggregate controlling stake of 90.36 percent in Nio China, according to the February 2021 statement.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">During the first quarter 2020 earnings call, William Li, Nio&#39;s founder, chairman and CEO, said that Nio China has the potential for an IPO in the Chinese market.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The February 2021 buyback move was then thought to be a possible preparation for Nio China&#39;s IPO, although that was subsequently denied by Nio.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">A February 2021 report in the Securities Journal noted that under Nio&#39;s definitive investment agreement with Hefei in 2020, Nio China would need to file for an IPO within 48 months and achieve an IPO within 60 months.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Otherwise, the strategic investors would require Nio to repurchase its shares of Nio China at a redemption price of the total investment by the strategic investors, with interest at a compounded rate of 8.5 percent per annum, the report said.</p></body></html>","source":"cnevpost_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Image credit: CnEVPost)Nio (NYSE: NIO) announced that Nio China has received a new investment from investors in Hefei, Anhui province, as its Chinese business operations entity receives further support from the city.The EV maker announced today that it has entered into definitive agreements with Hefei Jianheng New Energy Automobile Investment Fund Partnership, Anhui Provincial Emerging Industry Investment Co Ltd and CS Capital Co Ltd for an investment in its 92.1 percent-owned Chinese subsidiary, Nio Holding Co Ltd (Nio China).The three existing strategic investors of Nio China will invest a total of RMB 3.3 billion ($470 million) in cash to subscribe for newly issued shares in Nio China, according to a statement.At the same time, Nio will invest a total of RMB 10 billion in cash to subscribe for newly issued shares of Nio China.Upon completion of the investment transaction, Nio will hold a controlling 88.3 percent stake in Nio China, and the strategic investors, together with other existing shareholders, will hold the remaining 11.7 percent stake in Nio China.Nio also has the right to invest an additional RMB 20 billion to subscribe for additional shares in Nio China by December 31, 2025, at the same price and on the same terms as the investment transaction.The transaction is subject to regulatory and internal approvals and customary closing conditions.The strategic investors and Nio will inject capital into Nio China in two phases, with 70 percent of the strategic investment amount and Nio investment amount to be made by the end of November 2024, with the remaining 30 percent to be made by the end of December 2024.The investment not only demonstrates the strategic investors' strong support for the high-quality development of the EV industry, but also highlights their strong recognition of Nio's unique value and industry leadership, the EV maker said.With an enhanced balance sheet, Nio is strategically positioned to maintain its long-term advantages in technology, products, services, and user community, the company said.This will also drive its multi-brand strategy and penetration into wider markets, propelling the company into the next phase of sustainable growth, it said.Nio China is a subsidiary of Nio established in Hefei, headquartered in the city, after investors from Hefei bailed out the EV maker at the end of 2019. Nio's global headquarters are located in Shanghai.On April 29, 2020, Nio signed an agreement with strategic investors in Hefei regarding its investment in Nio China. The strategic investors and Nio invested RMB 7.0 billion and RMB 4.26 billion, respectively, in Nio China, at the time.Upon completion of the transaction in April 2020, both parties held 24.1 percent and 75.9 percent equity interests in Nio China, respectively, and Nio China received a capital increase of RMB 11.26 billion.In February 2021, Nio said it would repurchase 3.305 percent of the equity from two strategic investors in Nio China for RMB 5.5 billion. At the same time, Nio increased its equity stake in Nio China by RMB 10 billion.Upon completion of the equity acquisition and capital subscription, Nio held an aggregate controlling stake of 90.36 percent in Nio China, according to the February 2021 statement.During the first quarter 2020 earnings call, William Li, Nio's founder, chairman and CEO, said that Nio China has the potential for an IPO in the Chinese market.The February 2021 buyback move was then thought to be a possible preparation for Nio China's IPO, although that was subsequently denied by Nio.A February 2021 report in the Securities Journal noted that under Nio's definitive investment agreement with Hefei in 2020, Nio China would need to file for an IPO within 48 months and achieve an IPO within 60 months.Otherwise, the strategic investors would require Nio to repurchase its shares of Nio China at a redemption price of the total investment by the strategic investors, with interest at a compounded rate of 8.5 percent per annum, the report said.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":100,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":354639818440728,"gmtCreate":1727591459895,"gmtModify":1727596853561,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"In this article the prata man wants you to be speculator instead of investor... I invest in value stocks with ie buying stock cheaper than it's intrinsic value. Baba happened to be one of them... my advise is to do your own homework instead of listen blindly to prata man.&nbsp;","listText":"In this article the prata man wants you to be speculator instead of investor... I invest in value stocks with ie buying stock cheaper than it's intrinsic value. Baba happened to be one of them... my advise is to do your own homework instead of listen blindly to prata man.&nbsp;","text":"In this article the prata man wants you to be speculator instead of investor... I invest in value stocks with ie buying stock cheaper than it's intrinsic value. Baba happened to be one of them... my advise is to do your own homework instead of listen blindly to prata man.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/354639818440728","repostId":"2470238880","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2470238880","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1727577258,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2470238880?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-29 10:34","market":"sg","language":"en","title":"What to Expect from Tesla's Robotaxi Event","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2470238880","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"As far as moonshots, Jonas advised previously that Tesla  could introduce an electric plane concept, electric boat vision, or a demonstration of an Optimus robot flipping burgers at a Tesla Diner. Other Wall Street analysts are also predicting some long-term autonomous concepts will be teased. The other robotaxi players Uber Technologies  and Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD Company  are preparing to build what appears to be the start of a global robotaxi service. Uber  also recently announced that the Uber app will soon offer rides in Waymo's self-driving cars in Austin and Atlanta. WeRide and Uber Technologies  also reported a strategic partnership to bring WeRide’s autonomous vehicles onto the Uber platform, beginning in the United Arab Emirates. The partnership is expected to launch first in Abu Dhabi later this year. Uber Technologies  also has a multiyear strategic par","content":"<html><head></head><body><p> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Motors</a>  will host a high-profile robotaxi event with the title &#34;We, Robot&#34; at Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, California on October 10. The event was originally scheduled for August 8 before Elon Musk said the company needed more time to make an important design change and to prepare to show off a few other things.</p><p>The highlight of the event is likely to be the reveal of a Cybercab protype, which is anticipated to be a two-door sedan with a front that is relatively similar to the Model 3. Elon Musk and gang could also deliver estimates on the size of the robotaxi market, a timeline for achieving unsupervised FSD, the potential for incremental AI-driven revenue, and other applications of the company&#39;s growing robotic technology.</p><p>Bank of America said expectations for the event have tempered since it was pushed back in terms the timing of a robotaxi fleet launch, but sees the event as helpful for investors to understand the current capabilities of Tesla&#39;s Full Self Driving technology, how the robotaxi business might operate and be structured, and updates on regulatory approvals in Europe, China and other countries. The firm does not expect a robotaxi service to be available until after 2025. The electric vehicle maker&#39;s robotaxi offering is expected to leverage the existing fleet of Tesla cars as well as Tesla-owned vehicles. Tesla is expected to reveal a prototype of the new Cybercab as part of the robotaxi event and outline other robot applications.</p><p>Morgan Stanley warned that Tesla&#39;s robotaxi event on October 10 could fail to live up to the high expectations of investors. Analyst Adam Jonas said that other than demonstrating FSD v12.5 and offering rides in a Gen 1 Cybercab, the firm is not sure what else could be in store. Jonas said questions that could be addressed include will investors see data comparing the safety of Tesla’s AV vehicle technology compared to human driving, and what are the specific critical enabling technologies to drive further improvement in FSD/cybercab autonomy? As far as moonshots, Jonas advised previously that Tesla could introduce an electric plane concept, electric boat vision, or a demonstration of an Optimus robot flipping burgers at a Tesla Diner. Other Wall Street analysts are also predicting some long-term autonomous concepts will be teased.</p><p><strong>The other robotaxi players</strong></p><p> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/UBER\">Uber</a>  and Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD Company (OTCPK:BYDDF) are preparing to build what appears to be the start of a global robotaxi service. Uber also recently announced that the Uber app will soon offer rides in Waymo&#39;s self-driving cars in Austin and Atlanta. WeRide and Uber Technologies (UBER) also reported a strategic partnership to bring WeRide’s autonomous vehicles onto the Uber platform, beginning in the United Arab Emirates. The partnership is expected to launch first in Abu Dhabi later this year. Uber Technologies (UBER) also has a multiyear strategic partnership to bring  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">General Motors</a>&#39;s Cruise autonomous vehicles to the ride-sharing company&#39;s platform. Cruise has a fleet of about 1,200 vehicles and has previously operated in San Francisco, Austin, Dallas, Houston, and Phoenix. Notably, Cruise has resumed supervised autonomous driving in Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, and is testing in Dubai. Pony.ai, May Mobility,  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">Baidu</a>&#39;s Apollo, WeRide, AutoX, Aurora Innovation, and Motional (APTV) (OTCPK:HYMTF), and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon.com</a>&#39;s ZOOX also have robotaxi initiatives up and running.</p><p>Shares of Tesla are up 5.6% over the last week. While the EV giant will issue its Q3 deliveries report on October 2, the robotaxi event on October 10 is considered the bigger potential catalyst. Will the event lead to more share price gains on robotaxi and FSD buzz, or a share price slump if the technology timeline disappoints? Shares of Tesla (TSLA) have a general track record of rallying into major events, and then giving back some of the gains in the week following.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>What to Expect from Tesla's Robotaxi Event</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhat to Expect from Tesla's Robotaxi Event\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-09-29 10:34 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/news/4154313-what-to-expect-from-teslas-robotaxi-event><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla Motors  will host a high-profile robotaxi event with the title \"We, Robot\" at Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, California on October 10. The event was originally scheduled for August 8 before ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/news/4154313-what-to-expect-from-teslas-robotaxi-event\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4503":"景林资产持仓","BK4574":"无人驾驶","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU1145028129.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AQ\" (USD) INC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4022":"陆运","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2087625088.SGD":"ALLSPRING  US ALL CAP GROWTH \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC","BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","BK4581":"高盛持仓","SG9999014898.SGD":"United Global Quality Growth Fund Dis SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","LU0127658192.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (USD) ACC","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","LU1316542783.SGD":"Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology Leaders A2 SGD","IE00B7SZLL34.SGD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc SGD-H","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","SG9999018865.SGD":"United Global Quality Growth Fd Cl Dist SGD-H","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","UBER":"优步","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","IE00B19Z3581.USD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc USD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0642271901.SGD":"Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology Leaders A2 SGD-H","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2213496289.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","IE00BZ199S13.USD":"BNY MELLON MOBILITY INNOVATION \"B\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4588":"碎股","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/news/4154313-what-to-expect-from-teslas-robotaxi-event","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2470238880","content_text":"Tesla Motors  will host a high-profile robotaxi event with the title \"We, Robot\" at Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, California on October 10. The event was originally scheduled for August 8 before Elon Musk said the company needed more time to make an important design change and to prepare to show off a few other things.The highlight of the event is likely to be the reveal of a Cybercab protype, which is anticipated to be a two-door sedan with a front that is relatively similar to the Model 3. Elon Musk and gang could also deliver estimates on the size of the robotaxi market, a timeline for achieving unsupervised FSD, the potential for incremental AI-driven revenue, and other applications of the company's growing robotic technology.Bank of America said expectations for the event have tempered since it was pushed back in terms the timing of a robotaxi fleet launch, but sees the event as helpful for investors to understand the current capabilities of Tesla's Full Self Driving technology, how the robotaxi business might operate and be structured, and updates on regulatory approvals in Europe, China and other countries. The firm does not expect a robotaxi service to be available until after 2025. The electric vehicle maker's robotaxi offering is expected to leverage the existing fleet of Tesla cars as well as Tesla-owned vehicles. Tesla is expected to reveal a prototype of the new Cybercab as part of the robotaxi event and outline other robot applications.Morgan Stanley warned that Tesla's robotaxi event on October 10 could fail to live up to the high expectations of investors. Analyst Adam Jonas said that other than demonstrating FSD v12.5 and offering rides in a Gen 1 Cybercab, the firm is not sure what else could be in store. Jonas said questions that could be addressed include will investors see data comparing the safety of Tesla’s AV vehicle technology compared to human driving, and what are the specific critical enabling technologies to drive further improvement in FSD/cybercab autonomy? As far as moonshots, Jonas advised previously that Tesla could introduce an electric plane concept, electric boat vision, or a demonstration of an Optimus robot flipping burgers at a Tesla Diner. Other Wall Street analysts are also predicting some long-term autonomous concepts will be teased.The other robotaxi players Uber  and Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD Company (OTCPK:BYDDF) are preparing to build what appears to be the start of a global robotaxi service. Uber also recently announced that the Uber app will soon offer rides in Waymo's self-driving cars in Austin and Atlanta. WeRide and Uber Technologies (UBER) also reported a strategic partnership to bring WeRide’s autonomous vehicles onto the Uber platform, beginning in the United Arab Emirates. The partnership is expected to launch first in Abu Dhabi later this year. Uber Technologies (UBER) also has a multiyear strategic partnership to bring  General Motors's Cruise autonomous vehicles to the ride-sharing company's platform. Cruise has a fleet of about 1,200 vehicles and has previously operated in San Francisco, Austin, Dallas, Houston, and Phoenix. Notably, Cruise has resumed supervised autonomous driving in Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, and is testing in Dubai. Pony.ai, May Mobility,  Baidu's Apollo, WeRide, AutoX, Aurora Innovation, and Motional (APTV) (OTCPK:HYMTF), and  Amazon.com's ZOOX also have robotaxi initiatives up and running.Shares of Tesla are up 5.6% over the last week. While the EV giant will issue its Q3 deliveries report on October 2, the robotaxi event on October 10 is considered the bigger potential catalyst. Will the event lead to more share price gains on robotaxi and FSD buzz, or a share price slump if the technology timeline disappoints? Shares of Tesla (TSLA) have a general track record of rallying into major events, and then giving back some of the gains in the week following.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":122,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":354293964918912,"gmtCreate":1727531341810,"gmtModify":1727577451987,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nothing notable... this guy is like where the watermelon is bigger will say that is good... for those who understand this jargon 😂&nbsp; Anyway... all these while lots of ppl have been trap \"value trapped\" by China stock... somehow I did mentioned that the tide has changed... the 2nd economy has rebounded... it's just waiting for the right time to check mate the opponent... and I felt this is the start of their strategy on this...&nbsp; I called it a comeback kid!!! Totally bullish on China!!&nbsp;","listText":"Nothing notable... this guy is like where the watermelon is bigger will say that is good... for those who understand this jargon 😂&nbsp; Anyway... all these while lots of ppl have been trap \"value trapped\" by China stock... somehow I did mentioned that the tide has changed... the 2nd economy has rebounded... it's just waiting for the right time to check mate the opponent... and I felt this is the start of their strategy on this...&nbsp; I called it a comeback kid!!! Totally bullish on China!!&nbsp;","text":"Nothing notable... this guy is like where the watermelon is bigger will say that is good... for those who understand this jargon 😂 Anyway... all these while lots of ppl have been trap \"value trapped\" by China stock... somehow I did mentioned that the tide has changed... the 2nd economy has rebounded... it's just waiting for the right time to check mate the opponent... and I felt this is the start of their strategy on this... I called it a comeback kid!!! Totally bullish on China!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/354293964918912","repostId":"2470081011","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2470081011","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1727510601,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2470081011?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-28 16:03","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"NIO: The Tide Is Finally Turning","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2470081011","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"My article examines China's macro environment, highlighting its impact on the financial performance and future prospects of the stock market in general.NIO's financial updates in particular reveal str","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>My article examines China&#39;s macro environment, highlighting its impact on the financial performance and future prospects of the stock market in general.</p></li><li><p>NIO&#39;s financial updates in particular reveal strong revenue growth and solid balance sheets, supporting a positive outlook for the stock.</p></li><li><p>Valuation analysis suggests the stock may have an upside indeed, with NIO having a cash-to-market-cap ratio of 57.5% to date.</p></li><li><p>Although the long term outlook remains highly uncertain, I continue to look at NIO today as pure speculation for bulls.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/03ac484e2ce629f35b09aa31866a2290\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"499\"/></p><p>primeimages</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_2426392888\">My Coverage History &amp; Thesis Update</h2><p>I&#39;ve been covering <strong>NIO Inc.</strong> (NYSE:NIO) stock for quite a long time here on Seeking Alpha. Since November 2022, I&#39;ve been bearish, but then I changed my stance to &#34;Neutral&#34; at the beginning of December 2023 and then finally issued a &#34;Buy&#34; rating, noting that NIO was looking interesting as a speculative &#34;Buy&#34; (that call was made in early March 2024). In early June 2024, I reiterated my &#34;Buy&#34; rating, still seeing a few reasons to stay bullish on NIO in the short-to-medium term.</p><p>I think my bullish thesis hasn&#39;t played out yet, but I see it started to go in the right direction recently:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0b85cbda3e393e855353c2ba856c2101\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"468\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha, my coverage of NIO stock</p><p></p><p><em>To date, I still believe I was close to marking the local bottom in NIO&#39;s price.</em> I think NIO still has significant growth potential in the medium term, especially as interest from retail and international investors returns to China.</p><h2 id=\"id_3415084607\">Why Do I Think So?</h2><p>Let me first tell you a bit about the macro setup in China the way I see it.</p><p>China has rolled out a sizeable monetary policy easing package a few days ago. The measures include a cut of 50 b.p. on the reserve requirement ratio (RRR) and a 20 b.p. cut on the 7-day reverse REPO rate, thereby releasing bank liquidity for credit creation and asset purchase. Moreover, preexisting mortgage interest rates have been cut to improve consumer confidence. It would have been a hit to the banking sector, but the negative effect on margins should be theoretically offset by lower rates on deposits. Net-net, it&#39;s going to stimulate the economy, in my view.</p><p>At the same time, new special credit lines from the People&#39;s Bank of China (aka PBoC) are now available for funds, investment banks, and insurance companies at low interest rates for share buybacks (~1.75% annually) and for major shareholders to increase their stakes (~2.25%). The CCP tried to encourage a stock market rally, hoping to lift sentiment and trigger a consumer confidence revival that would turn into real money.</p><p>The regulatory changes in August not only made it easier for the PBoC to trade bonds to raise the yield curve and support the banks, but they also removed interest-rate caps on inter-bank lending. So the response of the markets to this announcement last 7 calendar days has been encouraging: the MSCI China ETF (MCHI) is up 17.44%, while the tech sector - China Internet ETF (KWEB) - is up over 22%. The price action looks crazy hot right now:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/87793b8b4377d463bdfd64abddc26eab\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><p>In periods like now, we usually see the most bullish reaction from the assets of &#34;the longest duration&#34; so to speak - in terms of equities, it&#39;s usually unprofitable growth stocks, which have been falling for many quarters. NIO is the perfect fit, and it follows the theoretical rules:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3aed05b140e8e0ed8b7eb8f4fc40fd02\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"424\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><p>But NIO isn&#39;t just an unprofitable growth stock.</p><p>Their recent introduction of the SkyOS operating system and the Banyan 3 smart system, along with the development of the Shenji NX9031 chip for smart driving, makes NIO one of the most innovative car brands today, in my view. The launch of the ONVO brand&#39;s 1st model - the L60 - is expected to further boost sales, with a target of reaching a supply capacity of ~10,000 units by the end of the year. This model is priced competitively at only RMB290,900, which is about RMB30,000 cheaper than the Tesla (TSLA) Model Y for comparison, positioning NIO quite well in the Chinese market.</p><p>NIO&#39;s business itself is already growing quite well. The vehicle margin rose to 12.2%, against a 6.2% margin compared with the same quarter last year, because material costs dropped further. The gross margin also rose to 9.7%, which is still low, but against 1% a year ago it looks like a great achievement to me. Even with all those gains, NIO reported a net loss of RMB5 billion, down 16.7% from last year, showing that it&#39;s still early to talk seriously about profitability. Anyway, the cash balance continues to be strong – NIO reported cash and cash equivalents of RMB41.6 billion as of June 30, 2024, which should make it easy to take advantage of future opportunities to invest and grow the business.</p><p>I like NIO&#39;s efforts to extend its charging and swapping network, which seems to be strategically in time. According to a recent press release, NIO has established more than 2,561 power swap stations and more than 23,000 chargers worldwide, helping to meet users&#39; strong demand. The Power Up Partner Plan aims to provide access to NIO&#39;s charging network in every county in mainland China by mid-2025, which will likely further facilitate sales growth and market penetration.</p><p>The management is looking to reach an end-of-year vehicle margin of about 15% and a 3rd factory with a capacity of ~100,000 units (scheduled to come online in Q3 next year). The goal is to increase monthly delivery volumes to 30,000-40,000 units for the NIO brand and a long-term vehicle margin of 25%. The goal for the ONVO brand in particular is a 15% vehicle margin with a competitive pricing position and cutting-edge technology.</p><p>Based on all that, perhaps we&#39;ll see a continuation of the earnings revisions to the upside, which so far touched only the next 3 years:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2c0e55b0181bc9e8a00e299265f53fe5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"331\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha</p><p></p><p>As I noted above, it&#39;s too early to hope for a bottom-line break even any time soon, but anyway, the market is expecting to see the first positive adjusted EPS in FY2027, so the consensus is already quite pessimistic, leaving little room for much downside from here.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ea823a9a4c1ae37cad3667412e38e1fc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"312\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I don&#39;t know if NIO indeed is poised for sustained growth in the long term through its heavy investments in tech, infrastructure, and market expansion. However, I believe the short-to-medium-term momentum is likely to continue as the market participants continue to reprice the Chinese equities.</p><p>Much of the risks that were priced in before came from the China macro concerns and potentially weakening consumers. I wrote about it in my previously bearish articles on NIO (and not only). But those macro headwinds are getting much softer now with the new policy updates. At the same time, I like NIO&#39;s new initiatives with the ONVO brand that keep the management confident in the company&#39;s ability to meet competitive pressures. We&#39;ll see, but it looks like the company has a clear roadmap to guide its growth and development in the medium term.</p><p>I know it&#39;s hard to call NIO undervalued - it has no P/E or EV/EBITDA ratios for our assessment, even on the forwarding basis (again, the firm is projected to break even in FY2027). But on the sales-related ratios, NIO is trading at about the median of the Consumer Discretionary sector:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8b6978b917e41cd287008cf504f8ea0a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"486\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha, NIO&#39;s Valuation</p><p></p><p>NIO&#39;s P/S ratios fell down over 80% since their 5-year peaks, so probably amid better sentiment they can go up from here. Anyway, on the cash-to-market-cap ratio, NIO still looks quite cheap to me - 57.5% of its market cap is backed by cash so to speak:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/aed45be967e2819d992fe7274e86539b\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"424\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><p>I&#39;m not sure what is driving Morningstar Premium&#39;s fair value models (proprietary source), but in NIO&#39;s case we see an undervaluation of over 31%:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0454ca36cba1f368f99155a5abec1d2d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"260\"/></p><p>Morningstar Premium (proprietary source), notes added</p><p></p><p>Based on all of the above, I decided to maintain my speculative &#34;Buy&#34; rating for NIO for another quarter at least.</p><h2 id=\"id_942063814\">Where Can I Be Wrong?</h2><p>In fact, there are a whole series of risk factors for my thesis - let me touch on the most obvious ones, which I generally covered last time.</p><p>First, I assume that the improving macro environment in China should lure Western investors (and not only Western ones) back to Chinese assets. But this could be a fallacy as it is by no means certain that a) the crisis is over and China will return to a period of stable GDP growth and b) NIO will be a good pick given its financials and deep unprofitability.</p><p>The second risk lies in my reasoning about improving the fundamentals. Again, NIO remains a deeply unprofitable company that constantly needs new capital injections. There&#39;s a risk that the company will quickly &#34;wipe out&#34; any beginnings of recovery growth in its stock quotes by announcing a new share capital issuance - this is a risk I can&#39;t rule out and simply ignore.</p><p>The third risk is that the lack of positive EBITDA does not allow us to value NIO as the financial theory recommends. This is a characteristic of a growth stock, but in any case, investors will have to wait another 3 fiscal years before they see the first positive P/E ratios.</p><h2 id=\"id_1205053800\">The Bottom Line</h2><p>Given the risks I listed above, I continue to look at NIO today as pure speculation for bulls. Of course, the fundamentals are moving in the right direction, and so is valuation (rising cash to market cap is a good metric). But long term, the outlook remains highly uncertain. However, considering my assumption of a better macro setup in China and also the recent updates from the firm, I decided to hold my medium-term speculative &#34;Buy&#34; rating.</p><p><em>Thank you for reading!</em></p><p>Editor&#39;s Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. Please be aware of the risks associated with these stocks.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO: The Tide Is Finally Turning</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO: The Tide Is Finally Turning\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-09-28 16:03 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4723723-nio-tide-finally-turning><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>My article examines China's macro environment, highlighting its impact on the financial performance and future prospects of the stock market in general.NIO's financial updates in particular reveal ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4723723-nio-tide-finally-turning\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","BK4531":"中概回港概念","09866":"蔚来-SW","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0708995583.HKD":"TEMPLETON CHINA \"A\" (HKD) ACC","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4509":"腾讯概念","NIO.SI":"蔚来","BK4526":"热门中概股","BK4588":"碎股","NIO":"蔚来","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","BK4581":"高盛持仓","BK4504":"桥水持仓","LU0320764599.SGD":"FTIF - Templeton China A Acc SGD","LU0052750758.USD":"富兰克林中国基金A Acc","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4723723-nio-tide-finally-turning","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2470081011","content_text":"My article examines China's macro environment, highlighting its impact on the financial performance and future prospects of the stock market in general.NIO's financial updates in particular reveal strong revenue growth and solid balance sheets, supporting a positive outlook for the stock.Valuation analysis suggests the stock may have an upside indeed, with NIO having a cash-to-market-cap ratio of 57.5% to date.Although the long term outlook remains highly uncertain, I continue to look at NIO today as pure speculation for bulls.primeimagesMy Coverage History & Thesis UpdateI've been covering NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stock for quite a long time here on Seeking Alpha. Since November 2022, I've been bearish, but then I changed my stance to \"Neutral\" at the beginning of December 2023 and then finally issued a \"Buy\" rating, noting that NIO was looking interesting as a speculative \"Buy\" (that call was made in early March 2024). In early June 2024, I reiterated my \"Buy\" rating, still seeing a few reasons to stay bullish on NIO in the short-to-medium term.I think my bullish thesis hasn't played out yet, but I see it started to go in the right direction recently:Seeking Alpha, my coverage of NIO stockTo date, I still believe I was close to marking the local bottom in NIO's price. I think NIO still has significant growth potential in the medium term, especially as interest from retail and international investors returns to China.Why Do I Think So?Let me first tell you a bit about the macro setup in China the way I see it.China has rolled out a sizeable monetary policy easing package a few days ago. The measures include a cut of 50 b.p. on the reserve requirement ratio (RRR) and a 20 b.p. cut on the 7-day reverse REPO rate, thereby releasing bank liquidity for credit creation and asset purchase. Moreover, preexisting mortgage interest rates have been cut to improve consumer confidence. It would have been a hit to the banking sector, but the negative effect on margins should be theoretically offset by lower rates on deposits. Net-net, it's going to stimulate the economy, in my view.At the same time, new special credit lines from the People's Bank of China (aka PBoC) are now available for funds, investment banks, and insurance companies at low interest rates for share buybacks (~1.75% annually) and for major shareholders to increase their stakes (~2.25%). The CCP tried to encourage a stock market rally, hoping to lift sentiment and trigger a consumer confidence revival that would turn into real money.The regulatory changes in August not only made it easier for the PBoC to trade bonds to raise the yield curve and support the banks, but they also removed interest-rate caps on inter-bank lending. So the response of the markets to this announcement last 7 calendar days has been encouraging: the MSCI China ETF (MCHI) is up 17.44%, while the tech sector - China Internet ETF (KWEB) - is up over 22%. The price action looks crazy hot right now:Data by YChartsIn periods like now, we usually see the most bullish reaction from the assets of \"the longest duration\" so to speak - in terms of equities, it's usually unprofitable growth stocks, which have been falling for many quarters. NIO is the perfect fit, and it follows the theoretical rules:Data by YChartsBut NIO isn't just an unprofitable growth stock.Their recent introduction of the SkyOS operating system and the Banyan 3 smart system, along with the development of the Shenji NX9031 chip for smart driving, makes NIO one of the most innovative car brands today, in my view. The launch of the ONVO brand's 1st model - the L60 - is expected to further boost sales, with a target of reaching a supply capacity of ~10,000 units by the end of the year. This model is priced competitively at only RMB290,900, which is about RMB30,000 cheaper than the Tesla (TSLA) Model Y for comparison, positioning NIO quite well in the Chinese market.NIO's business itself is already growing quite well. The vehicle margin rose to 12.2%, against a 6.2% margin compared with the same quarter last year, because material costs dropped further. The gross margin also rose to 9.7%, which is still low, but against 1% a year ago it looks like a great achievement to me. Even with all those gains, NIO reported a net loss of RMB5 billion, down 16.7% from last year, showing that it's still early to talk seriously about profitability. Anyway, the cash balance continues to be strong – NIO reported cash and cash equivalents of RMB41.6 billion as of June 30, 2024, which should make it easy to take advantage of future opportunities to invest and grow the business.I like NIO's efforts to extend its charging and swapping network, which seems to be strategically in time. According to a recent press release, NIO has established more than 2,561 power swap stations and more than 23,000 chargers worldwide, helping to meet users' strong demand. The Power Up Partner Plan aims to provide access to NIO's charging network in every county in mainland China by mid-2025, which will likely further facilitate sales growth and market penetration.The management is looking to reach an end-of-year vehicle margin of about 15% and a 3rd factory with a capacity of ~100,000 units (scheduled to come online in Q3 next year). The goal is to increase monthly delivery volumes to 30,000-40,000 units for the NIO brand and a long-term vehicle margin of 25%. The goal for the ONVO brand in particular is a 15% vehicle margin with a competitive pricing position and cutting-edge technology.Based on all that, perhaps we'll see a continuation of the earnings revisions to the upside, which so far touched only the next 3 years:Seeking AlphaAs I noted above, it's too early to hope for a bottom-line break even any time soon, but anyway, the market is expecting to see the first positive adjusted EPS in FY2027, so the consensus is already quite pessimistic, leaving little room for much downside from here.Seeking AlphaHonestly, I don't know if NIO indeed is poised for sustained growth in the long term through its heavy investments in tech, infrastructure, and market expansion. However, I believe the short-to-medium-term momentum is likely to continue as the market participants continue to reprice the Chinese equities.Much of the risks that were priced in before came from the China macro concerns and potentially weakening consumers. I wrote about it in my previously bearish articles on NIO (and not only). But those macro headwinds are getting much softer now with the new policy updates. At the same time, I like NIO's new initiatives with the ONVO brand that keep the management confident in the company's ability to meet competitive pressures. We'll see, but it looks like the company has a clear roadmap to guide its growth and development in the medium term.I know it's hard to call NIO undervalued - it has no P/E or EV/EBITDA ratios for our assessment, even on the forwarding basis (again, the firm is projected to break even in FY2027). But on the sales-related ratios, NIO is trading at about the median of the Consumer Discretionary sector:Seeking Alpha, NIO's ValuationNIO's P/S ratios fell down over 80% since their 5-year peaks, so probably amid better sentiment they can go up from here. Anyway, on the cash-to-market-cap ratio, NIO still looks quite cheap to me - 57.5% of its market cap is backed by cash so to speak:Data by YChartsI'm not sure what is driving Morningstar Premium's fair value models (proprietary source), but in NIO's case we see an undervaluation of over 31%:Morningstar Premium (proprietary source), notes addedBased on all of the above, I decided to maintain my speculative \"Buy\" rating for NIO for another quarter at least.Where Can I Be Wrong?In fact, there are a whole series of risk factors for my thesis - let me touch on the most obvious ones, which I generally covered last time.First, I assume that the improving macro environment in China should lure Western investors (and not only Western ones) back to Chinese assets. But this could be a fallacy as it is by no means certain that a) the crisis is over and China will return to a period of stable GDP growth and b) NIO will be a good pick given its financials and deep unprofitability.The second risk lies in my reasoning about improving the fundamentals. Again, NIO remains a deeply unprofitable company that constantly needs new capital injections. There's a risk that the company will quickly \"wipe out\" any beginnings of recovery growth in its stock quotes by announcing a new share capital issuance - this is a risk I can't rule out and simply ignore.The third risk is that the lack of positive EBITDA does not allow us to value NIO as the financial theory recommends. This is a characteristic of a growth stock, but in any case, investors will have to wait another 3 fiscal years before they see the first positive P/E ratios.The Bottom LineGiven the risks I listed above, I continue to look at NIO today as pure speculation for bulls. Of course, the fundamentals are moving in the right direction, and so is valuation (rising cash to market cap is a good metric). But long term, the outlook remains highly uncertain. However, considering my assumption of a better macro setup in China and also the recent updates from the firm, I decided to hold my medium-term speculative \"Buy\" rating.Thank you for reading!Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. Please be aware of the risks associated with these stocks.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":290,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":354237073547384,"gmtCreate":1727491751300,"gmtModify":1727491755195,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Seeking Alpha also one of the Bear recently what... 😂 can never thrust this guy","listText":"Seeking Alpha also one of the Bear recently what... 😂 can never thrust this guy","text":"Seeking Alpha also one of the Bear recently what... 😂 can never thrust this guy","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/354237073547384","repostId":"2470822772","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2470822772","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1727488764,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2470822772?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-28 09:59","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Bears Don't Get The Future Of The Company","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2470822772","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"In addition to giving organizations the peace of mind that their data is safe with Palantir, Palantir's big advantage is that it works with customers' existing systems. Palantir calls it the Unified Namespace, which means they take data from many different sources, such as MESs, ERPs, real-time data from sensors, or databases, and connect and integrate them. In this way, Palantir leverages data that clients already had, but didn","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir&#39;s strong government contracts and expanding commercial sector presence support its long-term growth potential.</p></li><li><p>The company&#39;s unique data analytics platform offers a competitive edge, driving customer retention and new client acquisition.</p></li><li><p>Continued innovation and scalability position Palantir as a compelling investment opportunity in the tech sector.</p></li><li><p>Probably one of the stickiest business models out there right now.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/554bfffe59edb9acf6bf12d15a231da8\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>hapabapa</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_442813178\">The Palantir Investment Thesis</h2><p>In March of this year, I wrote an article about <strong>Palantir Technologies Inc</strong> (NYSE:PLTR) and how the market was expecting a lot of growth from Palantir, but that they could exceed those expectations. And the &#39;buy rating&#39; at that time has proven to be correct, as the stock has risen more than 50 percent since then.</p><p>And then as now, I hear the same arguments from the bears. They say that Palantir is trading at a P/E ratio that is way too high, that insiders are selling shares en masse, and so on and so forth. The same arguments over and over again, which is why they missed the rally. But these people forget to analyze Palantir&#39;s competitive position, which will be the deciding factor for long-term investors.</p><p>And this is where Palantir is building on what is already a significant competitive advantage. Granted, the share price may be too high for traders with a time horizon of a few weeks, but for the long-term investor, the current share price continues to offer upside potential.</p><p>So let me explain why I think Palantir will be one of the biggest winners over the next decade.</p><h2 id=\"id_1794285466\">The Microsoft And Palantir Partnership</h2><p>I think most of you have heard that Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) and Palantir have teamed up to offer their expertise to the U.S. defense and intelligence communities. And I think that the experience that Palantir has in dealing with highly sensitive data is the key reason for this partnership.</p><p>Because I would imagine that in the future, the relationships that Palantir has built with governments will mean that the big players will have to work with them to get those contracts. It seems like Palantir is being trusted to handle and analyze data that other companies don&#39;t seem to enjoy yet.</p><p>In my opinion, this trust alone is a huge competitive advantage because trust and security are very difficult things to build. They have to be earned. And when you combine that trust with Palantir&#39;s expertise in handling the data and the actions that are taken based on the data, you have an incredibly powerful company.</p><h2 id=\"id_2350550520\">What Is Palantir&#39;s Advantage, Or Why Are They So Damn Good?</h2><p>In addition to giving organizations the peace of mind that their data is safe with Palantir, Palantir&#39;s big advantage is that it works with customers&#39; existing systems. Palantir calls it the Unified Namespace, which means they take data from many different sources, such as MESs, ERPs, real-time data from sensors, or databases, and connect and integrate them.</p><p>In this way, Palantir leverages data that clients already had, but didn&#39;t use or didn&#39;t know how to use. As a result, Palantir is highly effective at extracting the right data from highly complex systems, from multiple sources, and then aggregating, analyzing, and, ideally, generating automation.</p><p>This gives customers an overview of the entire workflow in the company and allows them to see what is happening in real time.</p><p>In addition, Palantir has so-called forward deployed engineers who focus on just one client at a time and do everything they can to get the systems up and running on day one to the client&#39;s complete satisfaction. Because Palantir wants its customers to experience and feel value from day one.</p><h2 id=\"id_1557979508\">How Palantir Improves LLM Outcomes</h2><p>Most of you have probably tested some LLM&#39;s, and maybe you have encountered the problems with them. Sometimes the LLMs hallucinate and give wrong answers. This is because the LLM is trained on a specific data set, and when it tries to give an output, it looks for the most likely answer, which is not always the right answer.</p><p>And this is where Palantir excels, helping companies solve unique problems by providing the most appropriate data in a controlled environment. Palantir has access to data that the other LLMs do not, and Palantir also wants to use a &#34;chain of thought&#34; to show how the LLMs arrive at their results.</p><p>Because if you know how and why an output is created, you can better evaluate it and minimize potential sources of error. One of Palantir&#39;s strengths is making its work as transparent and simple as possible for its clients. It starts with point-and-click input that allows users to operate the systems without programming experience. And it ends with the ability to fix problems at the source with a single click because all systems are synchronized.</p><h2 id=\"id_3617555981\">Palantir Leverages AI</h2><p>Earlier this week, Palantir announced that they are in beta with their custom-made LM-powered AI agents. Because once the customer gives the AIP Assist agent access to the custom content, they can use AIP Assist to work with it.</p><p>Again, Palantir is constantly striving to add value to its customers, and again, these agents can be operated without any programming knowledge on the part of the user.</p><p>And in general, the focus is on the Artificial Intelligence Platform, usually referred to as Palantir AIP. But to understand the competitive advantage, we need to take a step back and focus on Foundry, which is an operating system that combines strategy and operations.</p><p>Because what a lot of people don&#39;t know is that you can also build on top of Foundry, which makes the ecosystem bigger. Airbus SE (OTCPK:EADSF), for example, built its Skywise data platform on top of Foundry. And as more companies deploy their applications on Foundry, Palantir&#39;s network grows stronger and larger.</p><p>But Palantir also has its own plans to serve industries with its new product, called Warp Speed. They want Warp Speed to become the modern manufacturing operating system in America. And after that, they want to conquer other industries.</p><h2 id=\"id_305720114\">Are Insiders Really Selling That Much Stock?</h2><p>Yes, the insiders are selling a lot of stocks, but they have been doing so for years. For example, Alexander Karp&#39;s first sales were in November 2020, when he sold 2.5 million and 1.2 million shares. This means that the insiders are selling all the time, and not just because the prices have gone up. Therefore, I do not believe that the selling alone indicates that the insiders think the stock is overvalued.</p><p>In addition, the insiders receive generous stock options, as can be read on the SEC website, some of which can be exercised at significantly lower prices. And just because CEOs or insiders sell does not mean that they know what the future holds, I mean, if Bill Gates had never sold a share of Microsoft, he would have been the first trillionaire. And I think most people who held on to their Microsoft shares when Bill Gates sold his have made a pretty good return on them.</p><h2 id=\"id_2136154997\">What Is The Market Pricing In?</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d459a46929b68725316984a3aeb54d4f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"66\"/></p><p>Author</p><p></p><p>Although the share price has risen sharply since my article, the market is currently pricing in a lower EPS growth rate than it did then. In March, EPS growth was priced in at 40%, now it is down to 35% p.a. as EPS has grown faster than the stock.</p><p>And of course, 35% growth still sounds incredibly high, but you have to remember that EPS has only been positive for a short time. So the growth will be faster than for an established company that has had positive EPS for a long time. And on December 23, EPS was $0.1, and now it is $0.18 TTM, which is almost double. And I expect it to be over $0.30 for the full year &#39;24.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8a4d919494d9d5ceca0ebcee0d16cd40\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"79\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha</p><p></p><p>And even the analysts are expecting strong growth, although I still think the FY25 estimate is too low. But even these have been revised up, in March they were $0.33 for FY24 and $0.39 for FY25. Plus, I think for FY25, Palantir will probably crack $0.5 EPS.</p><p>And I could see Palantir hitting $1 EPS in 2026. That would mean that Palantir trades at about 35x 2026 EPS. That makes the multiple look a lot more attractive to me.</p><h2 id=\"id_727630988\">Historical Company Comparison</h2><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1591ccd8208c7fb0245c6185000209a0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"205\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha</p><p></p><p>For comparison, here is the historical chart of <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a> Inc. (Meta is currently my largest position). Meta&#39;s (META) P/E was also above 200 at times in the years 2013 to 2015, and it was still a rewarding investment for anyone who bought at that time.</p><p>Very good companies are unfortunately often very expensive, but they grow into their valuation because a long-time horizon is the friend of investors who think long term and buy quality companies.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/414ddc9e63cf3206642d19bdd5f73adc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"203\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha</p><p></p><p>And as a second example, we have Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD), another position I own, which also had a multiple of over 200 in 2019 and 2020. These companies, like Meta or AMD, were all undervalued because of their competitive position and advantages, even though they seemed too expensive to many at first glance.</p><p>And I see Palantir in the same league as them from a business perspective, which is why I think the current valuation is still undervalued for long-term investors.</p><h2 id=\"id_797163254\">Conclusion</h2><p>So all in all, I think there could be pullbacks in the short term, but long term, and long term to me means 5 years+, Palantir is going to be a powerhouse. I think Palantir is going to be one of those investments that 10 years from now everyone will say it was a no-brainer and why not everyone invested in it. But as we can see now, and as we&#39;ve seen with Amazon (AMZN) or Google (GOOGL), a lot of people can&#39;t see the forest for the trees and recognize that this company is going to be one of the cornerstones of AI in 10 years.</p><p>Here are the reasons I am so positive about Palantir:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Strong barriers to entry</strong> through security clearances and model development.</p></li><li><p>The business is incredibly sticky because once Palantir is set up and customers see the value, the <strong>switching costs are huge.</strong></p></li><li><p>The employees are among the best in the world regarding AI, and the management team has years of proven experience.</p></li><li><p>The business model of providing an operating system on which further applications can be built leads to <strong>enormous network effects</strong>.</p></li></ul></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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And the 'buy rating' at that time has proven to be correct, as the stock has risen more than 50 percent since then.And then as now, I hear the same arguments from the bears. They say that Palantir is trading at a P/E ratio that is way too high, that insiders are selling shares en masse, and so on and so forth. The same arguments over and over again, which is why they missed the rally. But these people forget to analyze Palantir's competitive position, which will be the deciding factor for long-term investors.And this is where Palantir is building on what is already a significant competitive advantage. Granted, the share price may be too high for traders with a time horizon of a few weeks, but for the long-term investor, the current share price continues to offer upside potential.So let me explain why I think Palantir will be one of the biggest winners over the next decade.The Microsoft And Palantir PartnershipI think most of you have heard that Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) and Palantir have teamed up to offer their expertise to the U.S. defense and intelligence communities. And I think that the experience that Palantir has in dealing with highly sensitive data is the key reason for this partnership.Because I would imagine that in the future, the relationships that Palantir has built with governments will mean that the big players will have to work with them to get those contracts. It seems like Palantir is being trusted to handle and analyze data that other companies don't seem to enjoy yet.In my opinion, this trust alone is a huge competitive advantage because trust and security are very difficult things to build. They have to be earned. And when you combine that trust with Palantir's expertise in handling the data and the actions that are taken based on the data, you have an incredibly powerful company.What Is Palantir's Advantage, Or Why Are They So Damn Good?In addition to giving organizations the peace of mind that their data is safe with Palantir, Palantir's big advantage is that it works with customers' existing systems. Palantir calls it the Unified Namespace, which means they take data from many different sources, such as MESs, ERPs, real-time data from sensors, or databases, and connect and integrate them.In this way, Palantir leverages data that clients already had, but didn't use or didn't know how to use. As a result, Palantir is highly effective at extracting the right data from highly complex systems, from multiple sources, and then aggregating, analyzing, and, ideally, generating automation.This gives customers an overview of the entire workflow in the company and allows them to see what is happening in real time.In addition, Palantir has so-called forward deployed engineers who focus on just one client at a time and do everything they can to get the systems up and running on day one to the client's complete satisfaction. Because Palantir wants its customers to experience and feel value from day one.How Palantir Improves LLM OutcomesMost of you have probably tested some LLM's, and maybe you have encountered the problems with them. Sometimes the LLMs hallucinate and give wrong answers. This is because the LLM is trained on a specific data set, and when it tries to give an output, it looks for the most likely answer, which is not always the right answer.And this is where Palantir excels, helping companies solve unique problems by providing the most appropriate data in a controlled environment. Palantir has access to data that the other LLMs do not, and Palantir also wants to use a \"chain of thought\" to show how the LLMs arrive at their results.Because if you know how and why an output is created, you can better evaluate it and minimize potential sources of error. One of Palantir's strengths is making its work as transparent and simple as possible for its clients. It starts with point-and-click input that allows users to operate the systems without programming experience. And it ends with the ability to fix problems at the source with a single click because all systems are synchronized.Palantir Leverages AIEarlier this week, Palantir announced that they are in beta with their custom-made LM-powered AI agents. Because once the customer gives the AIP Assist agent access to the custom content, they can use AIP Assist to work with it.Again, Palantir is constantly striving to add value to its customers, and again, these agents can be operated without any programming knowledge on the part of the user.And in general, the focus is on the Artificial Intelligence Platform, usually referred to as Palantir AIP. But to understand the competitive advantage, we need to take a step back and focus on Foundry, which is an operating system that combines strategy and operations.Because what a lot of people don't know is that you can also build on top of Foundry, which makes the ecosystem bigger. Airbus SE (OTCPK:EADSF), for example, built its Skywise data platform on top of Foundry. And as more companies deploy their applications on Foundry, Palantir's network grows stronger and larger.But Palantir also has its own plans to serve industries with its new product, called Warp Speed. They want Warp Speed to become the modern manufacturing operating system in America. And after that, they want to conquer other industries.Are Insiders Really Selling That Much Stock?Yes, the insiders are selling a lot of stocks, but they have been doing so for years. For example, Alexander Karp's first sales were in November 2020, when he sold 2.5 million and 1.2 million shares. This means that the insiders are selling all the time, and not just because the prices have gone up. Therefore, I do not believe that the selling alone indicates that the insiders think the stock is overvalued.In addition, the insiders receive generous stock options, as can be read on the SEC website, some of which can be exercised at significantly lower prices. And just because CEOs or insiders sell does not mean that they know what the future holds, I mean, if Bill Gates had never sold a share of Microsoft, he would have been the first trillionaire. And I think most people who held on to their Microsoft shares when Bill Gates sold his have made a pretty good return on them.What Is The Market Pricing In?AuthorAlthough the share price has risen sharply since my article, the market is currently pricing in a lower EPS growth rate than it did then. In March, EPS growth was priced in at 40%, now it is down to 35% p.a. as EPS has grown faster than the stock.And of course, 35% growth still sounds incredibly high, but you have to remember that EPS has only been positive for a short time. So the growth will be faster than for an established company that has had positive EPS for a long time. And on December 23, EPS was $0.1, and now it is $0.18 TTM, which is almost double. And I expect it to be over $0.30 for the full year '24.Seeking AlphaAnd even the analysts are expecting strong growth, although I still think the FY25 estimate is too low. But even these have been revised up, in March they were $0.33 for FY24 and $0.39 for FY25. Plus, I think for FY25, Palantir will probably crack $0.5 EPS.And I could see Palantir hitting $1 EPS in 2026. That would mean that Palantir trades at about 35x 2026 EPS. That makes the multiple look a lot more attractive to me.Historical Company ComparisonSeeking AlphaFor comparison, here is the historical chart of Meta Platforms Inc. (Meta is currently my largest position). Meta's (META) P/E was also above 200 at times in the years 2013 to 2015, and it was still a rewarding investment for anyone who bought at that time.Very good companies are unfortunately often very expensive, but they grow into their valuation because a long-time horizon is the friend of investors who think long term and buy quality companies.Seeking AlphaAnd as a second example, we have Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD), another position I own, which also had a multiple of over 200 in 2019 and 2020. These companies, like Meta or AMD, were all undervalued because of their competitive position and advantages, even though they seemed too expensive to many at first glance.And I see Palantir in the same league as them from a business perspective, which is why I think the current valuation is still undervalued for long-term investors.ConclusionSo all in all, I think there could be pullbacks in the short term, but long term, and long term to me means 5 years+, Palantir is going to be a powerhouse. I think Palantir is going to be one of those investments that 10 years from now everyone will say it was a no-brainer and why not everyone invested in it. But as we can see now, and as we've seen with Amazon (AMZN) or Google (GOOGL), a lot of people can't see the forest for the trees and recognize that this company is going to be one of the cornerstones of AI in 10 years.Here are the reasons I am so positive about Palantir:Strong barriers to entry through security clearances and model development.The business is incredibly sticky because once Palantir is set up and customers see the value, the switching costs are huge.The employees are among the best in the world regarding AI, and the management team has years of proven experience.The business model of providing an operating system on which further applications can be built leads to enormous network effects.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":125,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":353211408670792,"gmtCreate":1727240328808,"gmtModify":1727240332447,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"What do you know about tactical 😜&nbsp;","listText":"What do you know about tactical 😜&nbsp;","text":"What do you know about tactical 😜","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/353211408670792","repostId":"1150917086","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1150917086","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1727236526,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1150917086?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-25 11:55","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Insiders Are Selling, And So Am I","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1150917086","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummarySince my last report on PLTR, Palantir's stock has surged by ~35% to $37 per share, catalyzed by multiple partnership announcements, AIPCon event, and inclusion into the S&P 500.Despite Palantir's robust business momentum, its valuation is detached from financial realities, as seen through a reverse DCF model in this note.Insiders are selling aggressively, and I am trimming again. Read on to learn why!Looking for a helping hand in the market?While swathes of investors are chomping at the ","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_3740539871\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Since my last report on PLTR, Palantir&#39;s stock has surged by ~35% to $37 per share, catalyzed by multiple partnership announcements, AIPCon event, and inclusion into the S&amp;P 500.</p></li><li><p>Despite Palantir&#39;s robust business momentum, its valuation is detached from financial realities, as seen through a reverse DCF model in this note.</p></li><li><p>Insiders are selling aggressively, and I am trimming again. Read on to learn why!</p></li><li><p>Looking for a helping hand in the market? Members of The Quantamental Investor get exclusive ideas and guidance to navigate any climate.</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_1790837128\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Introduction</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">In early August, I downgraded Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR) to a tactical &#34;Sell&#34; rating after yet another post-ER pop:</p><blockquote><p><em>As of Q2, Palantir&#39;s business momentum is robust, with the AI/data enterprise software company delivering a solid mix of revenue growth and profitability. While I am impressed with Palantir&#39;s quarterly business performance and management&#39;s forward outlook, PLTR&#39;s valuation is detached from the financial realities of the business. Based on its 5-year expected CAGR return, Palantir stock is virtually dead money.</em></p><p><strong><em>Key Takeaway:</em></strong><em> Due to unfavorable long-term risk/reward, I am downgrading Palantir Technologies Inc. stock to a tactical &#34;Sell&#34; at $27.7 per share.</em></p></blockquote><p>Since the publication of this report, Palantir stock has shot up by ~35% to $37 per share, with bidding up PLTR stock from ~25x P/S to ~36x P/S on the back of exciting partnership announcements [like Microsoft, BP], Palantir&#39;s AIPCon event, and yesterday&#39;s inclusion to the S&amp;P 500 (SPX)(SPY).</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/da2dc88b6b3cb0f57f42e146e39d76c1\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/><span>Chart</span></p><p>Given Palantir&#39;s bullish price action, trimming in the $20s looks like a mistake. However, at TQI, we invest and divest based on long-term risk/reward and do so in a staggered manner.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0f4e6824a674543bde8f28ee2223fb94\" alt=\"Palantir Trade Activity (TQI&#39;s Moonshot Growth Portfolio)\" title=\"Palantir Trade Activity (TQI&#39;s Moonshot Growth Portfolio)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"207\"/><span>Palantir Trade Activity (TQI&#39;s Moonshot Growth Portfolio)</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/bf020a08ccfe438cab68f623d042112a\" alt=\"Current Palantir Position (TQI&#39;s Moonshot Growth Portfolio)\" title=\"Current Palantir Position (TQI&#39;s Moonshot Growth Portfolio)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"143\"/><span>Current Palantir Position (TQI&#39;s Moonshot Growth Portfolio)</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2454cd980c7c997c386b9353acb1544d\" alt=\"TQI Chats\" title=\"TQI Chats\" tg-width=\"920\" tg-height=\"189\"/><span>TQI Chats</span></p><p>After trimming Palantir on three separate occasions this year, we have divested our principal investment in PLTR stock. While I have stuck with our plan of letting the house money ride since our last sale in early August, Palantir&#39;s current weight [2.84%] in our Moonshot Growth portfolio is well above our target allocation of 2%. And so, in light of PLTR&#39;s explosive run-up over the past month or so, I think it is time for a re-evaluation!</p><h2 id=\"id_2266121478\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Is Palantir&#39;s Trading Multiple Expansion Justified?</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">While swathes of investors are chomping at the bit to buy PLTR stock right now at an exorbitant ~36x P/S multiple, it wasn&#39;t long ago that PLTR was trading at just ~5-6x P/S, and at the time, few buyers were to be found.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3a7f5e52aa8d154a702a23bd415a4c3b\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/><span>Chart</span></p><h3 id=\"id_736216749\" style=\"text-align: left;\">So, what&#39;s changed?</h3><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Well, for starters, Palantir has re-accelerated top-line growth in recent quarters [driven by Palantir AIP-led hypergrowth in US Commercial revenues] and turned into a free cash flow generating machine!</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/97754c076efca04b6521a4e311642600\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>Chart</span></p><p>And, with Palantir AIP [artificial intelligence platform] rapidly gaining traction among large enterprise customers, consensus revenue and earnings expectations for Palantir have been climbing higher, as evidenced by these broadly positive quarterly revision trends.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d8cafc46e7f49f03a9412e84722a1e09\" alt=\"Palantir&#39;s Quarterly Earnings Forecasts\" title=\"Palantir&#39;s Quarterly Earnings Forecasts\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"433\"/><span>Palantir&#39;s Quarterly Earnings Forecasts</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ded52d7271912c011ecadd08cea44556\" alt=\"Palantir&#39;s Quarterly Revenue Forecasts\" title=\"Palantir&#39;s Quarterly Revenue Forecasts\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"327\"/><span>Palantir&#39;s Quarterly Revenue Forecasts</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">As I shared in my Q2 review, Palantir is showing robust momentum from a business standpoint. Today, Palantir is one of the few recognizable early winners in the AI era. As such, investors are willing to pay 36x sales for the data/AI/ML company. However, valuations are inherently subjective. While financial metrics like revenue, profit, and growth rates provide objective data, their interpretation and weight in determining a company&#39;s worth vary significantly. Factors such as market trends, industry competition, potential future earnings, and even investors&#39; personal preferences can influence how a company is valued at any given point in time.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">In my view, the efficient market hypothesis is a fallacy, as stocks could easily get detached from their intrinsic values and stay at elevated or depressed levels for long periods of time.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/972037d82629b842a156b8e15ddcdb3a\" alt=\"Palantir&#39;s Annual Revenue Forecasts\" title=\"Palantir&#39;s Annual Revenue Forecasts\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"342\"/><span>Palantir&#39;s Annual Revenue Forecasts</span></p><p>Despite Palantir&#39;s robust margin profile, its trading multiple is out of whack with forward growth estimates [5-year expected CAGR sales growth: ~20%]. Let&#39;s visualize this through a reverse DCF model.</p><h2 id=\"id_3381752563\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir Reverse DCF Model</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">For this exercise, I modeled PLTR with a 2024E revenue base of $2.76B [up from $2.75B] and assumed an optimized FCF margin of 35% [significantly higher than current margins]. All other assumptions are straightforward and self-explanatory, but if you have any questions, please share them in the comments section below.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c8441e739850be681d71391f4c23ec14\" alt=\"TQI Valuation Model TQI Valuation Model\" title=\"TQI Valuation Model TQI Valuation Model\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"573\"/><span>TQI Valuation Model TQI Valuation Model</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">According to this reverse DCF model result, the market is currently pricing a 5-year CAGR sales growth rate of 50.68% into Palantir&#39;s stock!</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">With consensus analyst estimates suggesting a 5-year CAGR sales growth rate of ~20%, there&#39;s a spectacular mismatch between business realities (as measured by several Wall Street analysts) and market pricing of PLTR stock.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Now, can all analysts be wrong? Sure, forward analyst estimates can be wrong for Palantir or any stock out there. However, a 36x P/S and 126x P/FCF multiple is rare, and Palantir isn&#39;t quite delivering hypergrowth [growing at ~27% y/y] to justify such outrageous valuation multiples.</p><h2 id=\"id_3873715439\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Insiders Get It And Are Selling Aggressively</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir&#39;s dynamic CEO, Alex Karp, seemingly never fails to hype up Palantir&#39;s business prospects during media appearances and earnings conference calls. However, he just sold ~8.7M PLTR shares worth over $300M under a 10b5-1 trading plan soon after exercising stock options.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1a3ebc2141740da0fe5ab4c41be5e196\" alt=\"Palantir Insider selling\" title=\"Palantir Insider selling\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"551\"/><span>Palantir Insider selling</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">And Karp isn&#39;t alone. Palantir&#39;s co-founder and legendary tech investor - Peter Thiel - recently filed a new 10b5-1 trading plan to sell up to 28.5M PLTR shares (worth up to ~$1B) in the near future!</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">But, AI, AI, AI?</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Look, Palantir is a great company, and its AI potential is real. However, current market pricing for PLTR stock is irrationally exuberant. Palantir insiders understand this reality and are selling aggressively.</p><h2 id=\"id_3839645096\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Concluding Thoughts</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Recent S&amp;P 500 index inclusions like Uber (UBER) have showcased active investors&#39; affinity to front-run passive index investors - boosting stock prices (and consequently, valuation multiples) ahead of index inclusion dates and then selling into forced buying from rules-based indexers.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">In my view, a good chunk of Palantir&#39;s latest leg up is a result of this dynamic!</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9d8859609fe3a8959adadbe3f38c7cad\" alt=\"Author, TrendSpider\" title=\"Author, TrendSpider\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\"/><span>Author, TrendSpider</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">From a technical standpoint, Palantir is enjoying strong price momentum right now; however, with weekly RSI in overbought territory (&gt;70) and PLTR&#39;s price diverging from RSI, a corrective pullback could be just around the corner, especially now that Palantir&#39;s inclusion into the S&amp;P 500 index is completed.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Based on reasonable assumptions for future growth [5-year CAGR sales growth: 25%] and margins [FCF margin: 35%], TQI&#39;s fair value estimate for Palantir stands at $15.33 per share.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/25671b630b966bd6c10d93685badec5e\" alt=\"TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)\" title=\"TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"575\"/><span>TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Given its recent run-up from $27 to $37 per share, Palantir&#39;s potential downside to our fair value estimate has increased from -45% at our previous assessment to -59%!</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Now, as I have said in the past, we shouldn&#39;t dismiss the idea of investing in Palantir solely due to its premium valuation, as history shows that winning stocks can be overvalued for long periods [e.g., Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), Tesla, Inc. (TSLA), NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA), etc.]. So, let&#39;s take a look at Palantir&#39;s long-term risk/reward to formulate an informed decision:</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Assuming an aggressive exit multiple of 25x P/FCF, I see Palantir stock declining from $37 to $32.5 per share at a CAGR rate of -2.7% by 2029.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/95857aa50ede9e240b66004f8f560556\" alt=\"TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)\" title=\"TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"318\"/><span>TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Despite modeling Palantir with above-consensus assumptions, the expected 5-year CAGR return for PLTR stock is abysmal. In fact, with a negative expected 5-year CAGR return, Palantir looks worse than dead money.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">As we saw in this note, Palantir insiders are selling right now, and I think it is for a good reason. While I am open to continuously re-evaluating Palantir over coming months and quarters as new financial information comes to light, at this point, I continue to view PLTR stock as a tactical &#34;Sell&#34; and we will trim our PLTR long position again at TQI over the next few days.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Key Takeaway:</strong> Due to unfavorable long-term risk/reward, I continue to rate Palantir Technologies Inc. stock a tactical &#34;Sell&#34; at $37 per share.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Insiders Are Selling, And So Am I</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Insiders Are Selling, And So Am I\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-09-25 11:55 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4722770-palantir-insiders-are-selling-and-so-am-i><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummarySince my last report on PLTR, Palantir's stock has surged by ~35% to $37 per share, catalyzed by multiple partnership announcements, AIPCon event, and inclusion into the S&P 500.Despite ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4722770-palantir-insiders-are-selling-and-so-am-i\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4722770-palantir-insiders-are-selling-and-so-am-i","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1150917086","content_text":"SummarySince my last report on PLTR, Palantir's stock has surged by ~35% to $37 per share, catalyzed by multiple partnership announcements, AIPCon event, and inclusion into the S&P 500.Despite Palantir's robust business momentum, its valuation is detached from financial realities, as seen through a reverse DCF model in this note.Insiders are selling aggressively, and I am trimming again. Read on to learn why!Looking for a helping hand in the market? Members of The Quantamental Investor get exclusive ideas and guidance to navigate any climate.IntroductionIn early August, I downgraded Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR) to a tactical \"Sell\" rating after yet another post-ER pop:As of Q2, Palantir's business momentum is robust, with the AI/data enterprise software company delivering a solid mix of revenue growth and profitability. While I am impressed with Palantir's quarterly business performance and management's forward outlook, PLTR's valuation is detached from the financial realities of the business. Based on its 5-year expected CAGR return, Palantir stock is virtually dead money.Key Takeaway: Due to unfavorable long-term risk/reward, I am downgrading Palantir Technologies Inc. stock to a tactical \"Sell\" at $27.7 per share.Since the publication of this report, Palantir stock has shot up by ~35% to $37 per share, with bidding up PLTR stock from ~25x P/S to ~36x P/S on the back of exciting partnership announcements [like Microsoft, BP], Palantir's AIPCon event, and yesterday's inclusion to the S&P 500 (SPX)(SPY).ChartGiven Palantir's bullish price action, trimming in the $20s looks like a mistake. However, at TQI, we invest and divest based on long-term risk/reward and do so in a staggered manner.Palantir Trade Activity (TQI's Moonshot Growth Portfolio)Current Palantir Position (TQI's Moonshot Growth Portfolio)TQI ChatsAfter trimming Palantir on three separate occasions this year, we have divested our principal investment in PLTR stock. While I have stuck with our plan of letting the house money ride since our last sale in early August, Palantir's current weight [2.84%] in our Moonshot Growth portfolio is well above our target allocation of 2%. And so, in light of PLTR's explosive run-up over the past month or so, I think it is time for a re-evaluation!Is Palantir's Trading Multiple Expansion Justified?While swathes of investors are chomping at the bit to buy PLTR stock right now at an exorbitant ~36x P/S multiple, it wasn't long ago that PLTR was trading at just ~5-6x P/S, and at the time, few buyers were to be found.ChartSo, what's changed?Well, for starters, Palantir has re-accelerated top-line growth in recent quarters [driven by Palantir AIP-led hypergrowth in US Commercial revenues] and turned into a free cash flow generating machine!ChartAnd, with Palantir AIP [artificial intelligence platform] rapidly gaining traction among large enterprise customers, consensus revenue and earnings expectations for Palantir have been climbing higher, as evidenced by these broadly positive quarterly revision trends.Palantir's Quarterly Earnings ForecastsPalantir's Quarterly Revenue ForecastsAs I shared in my Q2 review, Palantir is showing robust momentum from a business standpoint. Today, Palantir is one of the few recognizable early winners in the AI era. As such, investors are willing to pay 36x sales for the data/AI/ML company. However, valuations are inherently subjective. While financial metrics like revenue, profit, and growth rates provide objective data, their interpretation and weight in determining a company's worth vary significantly. Factors such as market trends, industry competition, potential future earnings, and even investors' personal preferences can influence how a company is valued at any given point in time.In my view, the efficient market hypothesis is a fallacy, as stocks could easily get detached from their intrinsic values and stay at elevated or depressed levels for long periods of time.Palantir's Annual Revenue ForecastsDespite Palantir's robust margin profile, its trading multiple is out of whack with forward growth estimates [5-year expected CAGR sales growth: ~20%]. Let's visualize this through a reverse DCF model.Palantir Reverse DCF ModelFor this exercise, I modeled PLTR with a 2024E revenue base of $2.76B [up from $2.75B] and assumed an optimized FCF margin of 35% [significantly higher than current margins]. All other assumptions are straightforward and self-explanatory, but if you have any questions, please share them in the comments section below.TQI Valuation Model TQI Valuation ModelAccording to this reverse DCF model result, the market is currently pricing a 5-year CAGR sales growth rate of 50.68% into Palantir's stock!With consensus analyst estimates suggesting a 5-year CAGR sales growth rate of ~20%, there's a spectacular mismatch between business realities (as measured by several Wall Street analysts) and market pricing of PLTR stock.Now, can all analysts be wrong? Sure, forward analyst estimates can be wrong for Palantir or any stock out there. However, a 36x P/S and 126x P/FCF multiple is rare, and Palantir isn't quite delivering hypergrowth [growing at ~27% y/y] to justify such outrageous valuation multiples.Insiders Get It And Are Selling AggressivelyPalantir's dynamic CEO, Alex Karp, seemingly never fails to hype up Palantir's business prospects during media appearances and earnings conference calls. However, he just sold ~8.7M PLTR shares worth over $300M under a 10b5-1 trading plan soon after exercising stock options.Palantir Insider sellingAnd Karp isn't alone. Palantir's co-founder and legendary tech investor - Peter Thiel - recently filed a new 10b5-1 trading plan to sell up to 28.5M PLTR shares (worth up to ~$1B) in the near future!But, AI, AI, AI?Look, Palantir is a great company, and its AI potential is real. However, current market pricing for PLTR stock is irrationally exuberant. Palantir insiders understand this reality and are selling aggressively.Concluding ThoughtsRecent S&P 500 index inclusions like Uber (UBER) have showcased active investors' affinity to front-run passive index investors - boosting stock prices (and consequently, valuation multiples) ahead of index inclusion dates and then selling into forced buying from rules-based indexers.In my view, a good chunk of Palantir's latest leg up is a result of this dynamic!Author, TrendSpiderFrom a technical standpoint, Palantir is enjoying strong price momentum right now; however, with weekly RSI in overbought territory (>70) and PLTR's price diverging from RSI, a corrective pullback could be just around the corner, especially now that Palantir's inclusion into the S&P 500 index is completed.Based on reasonable assumptions for future growth [5-year CAGR sales growth: 25%] and margins [FCF margin: 35%], TQI's fair value estimate for Palantir stands at $15.33 per share.TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)Given its recent run-up from $27 to $37 per share, Palantir's potential downside to our fair value estimate has increased from -45% at our previous assessment to -59%!Now, as I have said in the past, we shouldn't dismiss the idea of investing in Palantir solely due to its premium valuation, as history shows that winning stocks can be overvalued for long periods [e.g., Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), Tesla, Inc. (TSLA), NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA), etc.]. So, let's take a look at Palantir's long-term risk/reward to formulate an informed decision:Assuming an aggressive exit multiple of 25x P/FCF, I see Palantir stock declining from $37 to $32.5 per share at a CAGR rate of -2.7% by 2029.TQI Valuation Model (Free to use at TQIG.org)Despite modeling Palantir with above-consensus assumptions, the expected 5-year CAGR return for PLTR stock is abysmal. In fact, with a negative expected 5-year CAGR return, Palantir looks worse than dead money.As we saw in this note, Palantir insiders are selling right now, and I think it is for a good reason. While I am open to continuously re-evaluating Palantir over coming months and quarters as new financial information comes to light, at this point, I continue to view PLTR stock as a tactical \"Sell\" and we will trim our PLTR long position again at TQI over the next few days.Key Takeaway: Due to unfavorable long-term risk/reward, I continue to rate Palantir Technologies Inc. stock a tactical \"Sell\" at $37 per share.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":35,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":352510446436608,"gmtCreate":1727080893321,"gmtModify":1727080897300,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Now you know why things are expensive?? All because of states actors","listText":"Now you know why things are expensive?? All because of states actors","text":"Now you know why things are expensive?? All because of states actors","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/352510446436608","repostId":"1198478147","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1198478147","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1727079300,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1198478147?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-23 16:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Stock Drops 3% As US to Propose Ban on Chinese Software, Hardware in Connected Vehicles","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1198478147","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"The U.S. Commerce Department is expected on Monday to propose prohibiting Chinese software and hardware in connected and autonomous vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, two so","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>The U.S. Commerce Department is expected on Monday to propose prohibiting Chinese software and hardware in connected and autonomous vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, two sources told Reuters.</p><p>NIO shares dropped 2.7% in premarket trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d56092b2cde0c9dd94e6916b8b607c76\" tg-width=\"879\" tg-height=\"620\"/></p><p>The Biden administration has raised serious concerns about the collection of data by Chinese companies on U.S. drivers and infrastructure as well as the potential foreign manipulation of vehicles connected to the internet and navigation systems.</p><p>The proposed regulation would ban the import and sale of vehicles from China with key communications or automated driving system software or hardware, said the two sources, who declined to be identified because the decision had not been publicly disclosed.</p><p>The move is a significant escalation in the United States&#39; ongoing restrictions on Chinese vehicles, software and components. Last week, the Biden administration locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric vehicles as well as new hikes on EV batteries and key minerals.</p><p>NIO&#39;s management revealed production capacity plans for the L60, the first model from sub-brand Onvo, as the model appears to be gaining good initial acceptance.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Onvo L60 capacity is expected to reach 5,000 units in October and 10,000 in December, Nio founder, chairman and CEO William Li said.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">By January 2025, the model&#39;s capacity will reach at least 16,000 units and 20,000 units by March, Li said.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Stock Drops 3% As US to Propose Ban on Chinese Software, Hardware in Connected Vehicles</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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ongoing restrictions on Chinese vehicles, software and components. Last week, the Biden administration locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric vehicles as well as new hikes on EV batteries and key minerals.</p><p>NIO&#39;s management revealed production capacity plans for the L60, the first model from sub-brand Onvo, as the model appears to be gaining good initial acceptance.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Onvo L60 capacity is expected to reach 5,000 units in October and 10,000 in December, Nio founder, chairman and CEO William Li said.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">By January 2025, the model&#39;s capacity will reach at least 16,000 units and 20,000 units by March, Li said.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1198478147","content_text":"The U.S. Commerce Department is expected on Monday to propose prohibiting Chinese software and hardware in connected and autonomous vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, two sources told Reuters.NIO shares dropped 2.7% in premarket trading.The Biden administration has raised serious concerns about the collection of data by Chinese companies on U.S. drivers and infrastructure as well as the potential foreign manipulation of vehicles connected to the internet and navigation systems.The proposed regulation would ban the import and sale of vehicles from China with key communications or automated driving system software or hardware, said the two sources, who declined to be identified because the decision had not been publicly disclosed.The move is a significant escalation in the United States' ongoing restrictions on Chinese vehicles, software and components. Last week, the Biden administration locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric vehicles as well as new hikes on EV batteries and key minerals.NIO's management revealed production capacity plans for the L60, the first model from sub-brand Onvo, as the model appears to be gaining good initial acceptance.Onvo L60 capacity is expected to reach 5,000 units in October and 10,000 in December, Nio founder, chairman and CEO William Li said.By January 2025, the model's capacity will reach at least 16,000 units and 20,000 units by March, Li said.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":53,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":351466064937176,"gmtCreate":1726828645941,"gmtModify":1726836905008,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Remember what I said just the other day? This seeking alpha analyst has load of shit... I think they have many analyst and should uses it's name instead else no more credits when they write more... rubbish!! I am long on intel&nbsp;","listText":"Remember what I said just the other day? This seeking alpha analyst has load of shit... I think they have many analyst and should uses it's name instead else no more credits when they write more... rubbish!! I am long on intel&nbsp;","text":"Remember what I said just the other day? This seeking alpha analyst has load of shit... I think they have many analyst and should uses it's name instead else no more credits when they write more... rubbish!! I am long on intel","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/351466064937176","repostId":"2468562486","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2468562486","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1726820783,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2468562486?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-09-20 16:26","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Intel: Sinking Transformation","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2468562486","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Intel's ongoing transformation under Pat Gelsinger faces setbacks, with layoffs and delayed fabs, casting doubt on business improvements.The AWS deal isn't material enough to turn around a struggling foundry business, and questions exist in why Amazon is using Intel.The cost reduction plans, including $10 billion cuts and 15,000 layoffs, highlight financial strain and inefficiencies compared to rivals like Nvidia and AMD.Investors should avoid Intel stock as it focuses on cost-cutting and government subsidies, while leading AI chip companies advance with new technologies.   JHVEPhoto As usual of any corporate transformation, a company tries to present to the market the most positive view of the changes. Intel Corp.  has been in a transformation under Pat Gelsinger for the 3.5 years","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_378863820\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Intel&#39;s ongoing transformation under Pat Gelsinger faces setbacks, with layoffs and delayed fabs, casting doubt on business improvements.</p></li><li><p>The AWS deal isn&#39;t material enough to turn around a struggling foundry business, and questions exist in why Amazon is using Intel.</p></li><li><p>The cost reduction plans, including $10 billion cuts and 15,000 layoffs, highlight financial strain and inefficiencies compared to rivals like Nvidia and AMD.</p></li><li><p>Investors should avoid Intel stock as it focuses on cost-cutting and government subsidies, while leading AI chip companies advance with new technologies.</p></li><li><p>Looking for more investing ideas like this one? Get them exclusively at Out Fox The Street. Learn More »</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c8d6c562d34c5e1960d7fe9fe778f99c\" alt=\"Intel headquarters in Santa Clara, California, USA\" title=\"Intel headquarters in Santa Clara, California, USA\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Intel headquarters in Santa Clara, California, USA</span></p><p>As usual of any corporate transformation, a company tries to present to the market the most positive view of the changes. <strong>Intel Corp.</strong> (NASDAQ:INTC) has been in a transformation under Pat Gelsinger for the 3.5 years since his hiring in February 2021, yet the company continues to announce more layoffs and pushed out plans. My investment thesis remains Bearish on the stock, even trading at just $20 with no business improvements in sight.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/02ed1ae48bc44bf72230949d21eea53b\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"440\"/></p><h3 id=\"id_1482646517\">Delaying More Fabs</h3><p>Intel sent out a message to employees and to Wall Street. The message was focused on the transformation of the business and expanded strategic collaboration firm Amazon Web Services.</p><p>The reality is that the only major business news was Intel delaying 2 fabs in Europe, Germany and Poland, for 2 years and working through a current workforce reduction of 15,000 employees. If the AWS deal was so meaningful, Intel wouldn&#39;t be taking these other corporate actions, especially with booming global AI GPU demand.</p><p>The AWS deal involves an apparent multi-year, multi-billion-dollar framework covering product and wafers from Intel. Intel will produce an AI fabric chip for AWS on Intel 18A, the company’s most advanced process node. Intel will also produce a custom Xeon 6 chip on Intel 3.</p><p>For a chip company with sales still in the $50+ billion range, a multi-billion deal over a period of time isn&#39;t necessarily material. After all, <strong>Nvidia</strong> (NVDA) has added over $20 billion in quarterly sales in the last year while Intel has failed to delivery competitive GPUs for AI and watched sales fall dramatically.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/351c09d81ee714bdfc8e6c60e88230bb\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"487\"/><span>Chart</span></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><p>The biggest issues with deals like this is whether the company trying to transform is providing big discounts to keep a customer, or whether AWS is unable to get capacity at the leading foundry supplier in order to produce the most advanced chips. Either way, the deal doesn&#39;t strike as AWS choosing Intel for their leading technology node where the company would pay premium prices for these chips. Either way, those details are unknown at this point.</p><p>Intel&#39;s Foundry business already technically does nearly $20 billion in annual revenues due to internally producing chips for Intel. The Foundry business lost $2.8 billion in Q2 making the business almost impossible to spinout considering the massive investments required to somehow turnaround the business into producing a profit.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/cd6c5b6fcf5502d072334b3e8f9f0b4b\" alt=\"slide\" title=\"slide\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"362\"/><span>slide</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Source: Intel Q2&#39;24 presentation</strong></p><p></p><p>Considering the size of the foundry business, one has to wonder if Intel isn&#39;t charging itself enough for the manufacturing part. In addition, Intel only produced ~$300 million in revenues for external customers, including existing work with AWS.</p><p>Intel claimed $15 billion in future external foundry work through the end of the decade. The AWS part has an unknown impact on those volumes, which adds to the difficulties of analyzing a large &#34;multi-year, multi-billion&#34; program.</p><p>Also notably, Intel is the only major chip company focused on U.S. government grants. The foundry company is unique in being so focused on this part of the business, unlike most American chip companies just focused on chip design.</p><p>Still, Intel announced up to $3 billion in direct funding via the Secure Enclave program for the U.S. Department of Defense. The company already has funding from the Chips Act, providing $8.5 billion in subsidies and $11 billion in loans.</p><p>Again, this is a scenario where a company with a thriving business wouldn&#39;t be so focused on deals with government restrictions and normal red tape.</p><h3 id=\"id_2886661572\">Misleading Cost Reductions</h3><p>Along with Q2&#39;24 earnings, Intel announced a further $10 billion cost reduction plan. The company only announced a $2.5 billion reduction in operating expenses from the $20.0 billion target in 2024 to ~$17.5 billion in 2025.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b48b20cfd63550fe57a45faba1962fc7\" alt=\"slide\" title=\"slide\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"357\"/><span>slide</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Source: Intel Q2&#39;24 presentation</strong></p><p>The rest of the cost reductions are with capital spending. Though this is only Intel spending less on the future fabs or funding capital investments via partner contributions reducing the outcome for the chip company.</p><p>Intel now forecasts spending roughly $11 to $14 billion annually on net capex for 2024/25.<strong> TSMC</strong> is spending over $30 billion annually, while Intel does forecast still spending over $20 billion gross in 2025. Even worse, Intel is cutting back capex in 2025, TSMC might spend up to $37 billion next year due to surging demand for 2nm capacity.</p><p>A big question is how the delayed fabs in Germany and Poland fit into the spending plans back in August. Either way, Intel isn&#39;t investing for the same economic benefit in 2026, whether gross spending is closer to TSMC, or not.</p><p>The company does plan to eliminate 15,000 positions in the 2H of the year, with roughly half already terminated. These job cuts are warranted to reduce the cost structure considering <strong>Nvidia</strong> (NVDA) only spends $3 billion on quarterly operating expenses, which is some $5 billion annually below what Intel still forecasts spending.</p><p>At the start of 2024, Intel was only producing $423K in revenues per employee. While <strong>AMD</strong> (AMD) has seen their productivity decrease during a tough 2023, but the amount is still more than double that of Intel. Nvidia produced nearly $2.2 billion in revenue per employee, and the metric has likely only expanded during 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/eb41ffb15ce14c5a55615514aa48954c\" alt=\"Chart\" title=\"Chart\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"487\"/><span>Chart</span></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>The problem with these major job cuts is that these processes are disruptive. Intel cut a limited 5,000 jobs back in 2023 and business has only gotten worse, while these layoffs are slightly more than 10% of its estimated global workforce of around 125,000.</p><p>The chip company probably needs to increase layoffs to fully transform the business. The stock only becomes intriguing once the layoffs are out of the way and Intel starts growing again. Right now, management is distracted with cutting employees and shifting work around to remaining employees, while new chips don&#39;t show any promise of re-capturing market share from Nvidia or AMD.</p><p>Intel guided to a Q3 EPS loss of $0.03 based on limited gross margins of 38%. Even at $20, the stock has limited appeal, with employee disruptions likely rolling through future results and investors impacted by the suspension of the dividend.</p><h3 id=\"id_3449537138\">Takeaway</h3><p>The key investor takeaway is that Intel continues lowering future expectations and focusing on cutting costs and grabbing government subsidies, while the leading AI chip companies are full speed ahead on new chips. The corporate transformation continues to sink and investors should avoid the stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Intel: Sinking Transformation</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Get them exclusively at Out Fox The Street. Learn More »Intel headquarters in Santa Clara, California, USAAs usual of any corporate transformation, a company tries to present to the market the most positive view of the changes. Intel Corp. (NASDAQ:INTC) has been in a transformation under Pat Gelsinger for the 3.5 years since his hiring in February 2021, yet the company continues to announce more layoffs and pushed out plans. My investment thesis remains Bearish on the stock, even trading at just $20 with no business improvements in sight.Delaying More FabsIntel sent out a message to employees and to Wall Street. The message was focused on the transformation of the business and expanded strategic collaboration firm Amazon Web Services.The reality is that the only major business news was Intel delaying 2 fabs in Europe, Germany and Poland, for 2 years and working through a current workforce reduction of 15,000 employees. If the AWS deal was so meaningful, Intel wouldn't be taking these other corporate actions, especially with booming global AI GPU demand.The AWS deal involves an apparent multi-year, multi-billion-dollar framework covering product and wafers from Intel. Intel will produce an AI fabric chip for AWS on Intel 18A, the company’s most advanced process node. Intel will also produce a custom Xeon 6 chip on Intel 3.For a chip company with sales still in the $50+ billion range, a multi-billion deal over a period of time isn't necessarily material. After all, Nvidia (NVDA) has added over $20 billion in quarterly sales in the last year while Intel has failed to delivery competitive GPUs for AI and watched sales fall dramatically.ChartData by YChartsThe biggest issues with deals like this is whether the company trying to transform is providing big discounts to keep a customer, or whether AWS is unable to get capacity at the leading foundry supplier in order to produce the most advanced chips. Either way, the deal doesn't strike as AWS choosing Intel for their leading technology node where the company would pay premium prices for these chips. Either way, those details are unknown at this point.Intel's Foundry business already technically does nearly $20 billion in annual revenues due to internally producing chips for Intel. The Foundry business lost $2.8 billion in Q2 making the business almost impossible to spinout considering the massive investments required to somehow turnaround the business into producing a profit.slideSource: Intel Q2'24 presentationConsidering the size of the foundry business, one has to wonder if Intel isn't charging itself enough for the manufacturing part. In addition, Intel only produced ~$300 million in revenues for external customers, including existing work with AWS.Intel claimed $15 billion in future external foundry work through the end of the decade. The AWS part has an unknown impact on those volumes, which adds to the difficulties of analyzing a large \"multi-year, multi-billion\" program.Also notably, Intel is the only major chip company focused on U.S. government grants. The foundry company is unique in being so focused on this part of the business, unlike most American chip companies just focused on chip design.Still, Intel announced up to $3 billion in direct funding via the Secure Enclave program for the U.S. Department of Defense. The company already has funding from the Chips Act, providing $8.5 billion in subsidies and $11 billion in loans.Again, this is a scenario where a company with a thriving business wouldn't be so focused on deals with government restrictions and normal red tape.Misleading Cost ReductionsAlong with Q2'24 earnings, Intel announced a further $10 billion cost reduction plan. The company only announced a $2.5 billion reduction in operating expenses from the $20.0 billion target in 2024 to ~$17.5 billion in 2025.slideSource: Intel Q2'24 presentationThe rest of the cost reductions are with capital spending. Though this is only Intel spending less on the future fabs or funding capital investments via partner contributions reducing the outcome for the chip company.Intel now forecasts spending roughly $11 to $14 billion annually on net capex for 2024/25. TSMC is spending over $30 billion annually, while Intel does forecast still spending over $20 billion gross in 2025. Even worse, Intel is cutting back capex in 2025, TSMC might spend up to $37 billion next year due to surging demand for 2nm capacity.A big question is how the delayed fabs in Germany and Poland fit into the spending plans back in August. Either way, Intel isn't investing for the same economic benefit in 2026, whether gross spending is closer to TSMC, or not.The company does plan to eliminate 15,000 positions in the 2H of the year, with roughly half already terminated. These job cuts are warranted to reduce the cost structure considering Nvidia (NVDA) only spends $3 billion on quarterly operating expenses, which is some $5 billion annually below what Intel still forecasts spending.At the start of 2024, Intel was only producing $423K in revenues per employee. While AMD (AMD) has seen their productivity decrease during a tough 2023, but the amount is still more than double that of Intel. Nvidia produced nearly $2.2 billion in revenue per employee, and the metric has likely only expanded during 2024.ChartData by YChartsThe problem with these major job cuts is that these processes are disruptive. Intel cut a limited 5,000 jobs back in 2023 and business has only gotten worse, while these layoffs are slightly more than 10% of its estimated global workforce of around 125,000.The chip company probably needs to increase layoffs to fully transform the business. The stock only becomes intriguing once the layoffs are out of the way and Intel starts growing again. Right now, management is distracted with cutting employees and shifting work around to remaining employees, while new chips don't show any promise of re-capturing market share from Nvidia or AMD.Intel guided to a Q3 EPS loss of $0.03 based on limited gross margins of 38%. Even at $20, the stock has limited appeal, with employee disruptions likely rolling through future results and investors impacted by the suspension of the dividend.TakeawayThe key investor takeaway is that Intel continues lowering future expectations and focusing on cutting costs and grabbing government subsidies, while the leading AI chip companies are full speed ahead on new chips. The corporate transformation continues to sink and investors should avoid the stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":159,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":367778289422576,"gmtCreate":1730807464065,"gmtModify":1730808955191,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.&nbsp;","listText":"Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.&nbsp;","text":"Dunno why ppl just listen to top sales CEO to buy his stock.... speculation is not my cup of tea... I donnn no understand why Warrant Buffet n Charlie M didn't buy this stock. One day when he if reported to have some kind of sickness, this shares would drop 60% overnight.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":279,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":7,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/367778289422576","repostId":"2481765745","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2481765745","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1730806599,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2481765745?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-05 19:36","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Musk Now Says It's \"Pointless\" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2481765745","media":"Reuters","summary":"By Chris Kirkham      Nov 5  - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.   “Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.   Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be \"pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.   His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Nov 5 (Reuters) - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.</p><p>“Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.</p><p>Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be &#34;pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.</p><p>His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”</p><p>Musk responded: “We’re not making a non-robo…,” before he was interrupted by another Tesla executive. Musk later added: “Basically, I think having a regular $25K model is pointless. It would be silly.”</p><p>The April 5 Reuters article reported that Tesla had abandoned plans for an all-new, affordable mass-market EV but still planned a self-driving robotaxi. Since then, Musk has increasingly touted plans for robotaxis and autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Tesla and Musk did not respond to requests for comment for this story.</p><p>On the October earnings call, Musk said that Tesla does plan a “$25K car” – its “Cybercab,” a two-door, two-seat, fully autonomous vehicle. Musk unveiled a prototype at a Hollywood-style event on Oct. 10.</p><p>Musk says Tesla will start production of the Cybercab in 2026, after it deploys fully autonomous versions of its current Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Texas and California next year. The automaker faces steep technological, regulatory and legal challenges in delivering on Musk’s latest promises of fully autonomous vehicles, which echo others dating back about a decade.</p><p>An all-new affordable Tesla for human drivers had until recently been a linchpin of Tesla’s strategy to become the world’s biggest automaker. For several years, Tesla had a goal of producing 20 million vehicles a year by 2030, more than tenfold what it sells now and nearly double that of Toyota, the current global sales leader. In May, Tesla dropped the 20-million goal from its latest “impact report” on progress toward sustainability goals.</p><p>As recently as January of this year, Musk confirmed the plan for an all-new affordable EV in an earnings call. He said the next-generation vehicle would arrive in 2025 and launch a second major &#34;growth wave,” following the first wave with the release of its Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in 2017 and 2020, respectively.</p><p>Investors and Tesla fans commonly called the anticipated cheap car a “Model 2,” slotting in below the Model 3, currently the least-expensive Tesla, starting at $42,490.</p><p>In January, Musk described the all-new model as requiring “new revolutionary manufacturing technology.” But in April, after Reuters reported Tesla had scrapped the Model 2, Musk outlined a plan for “more affordable” models that could be produced “on the same manufacturing lines” as current Teslas.</p><p>Seth Goldstein, a Morningstar Research Services analyst, said he believes these less-expensive vehicles will be built on current Tesla platforms and priced in the mid-$30,000s.</p><p>“It was my understanding that the original plan was to make the more-affordable vehicle on a new platform,” he told Reuters. “I think Tesla realized they were late to making an affordable vehicle versus their Chinese-EV peers … So, they changed their strategy rather than make a large investment to produce a new vehicle.”</p><p>After the April 5 Reuters report that Tesla had killed the Model 2, Musk posted that day on X saying Tesla planned a “robotaxi unveil” in August. The event, delayed until October and held on a movie set near Los Angeles, underwhelmed Wall Street and drove a 9% drop in Tesla shares the following day.</p><p>Some investors viewed Musk’s comments on the Cybercab – along with displays of an autonomous “Robovan” concept and humanoid robots – as short on concrete details about the products. Tesla hasn’t said whether the Cybercab will feature new self-driving technology beyond the company’s “Full Self-Driving” feature in its current vehicles. Its existing models can’t fully drive themselves and require a human driver paying strict attention.</p><p>The target market for the Cybercab isn’t clear. The Cybercab’s sports-car looks and two-door, two-seat configuration – a nearly extinct layout in the wider U.S. auto market – puzzled some analysts who expected a robotaxi with more room for passengers and luggage.</p><p>Musk, in the October earnings call, said the concept vehicle’s design was “optimized for autonomy” and would also deliver affordability.</p><p>“It will cost … roughly 25K, so it is a 25K car,” Musk said. “It just won&#39;t have a steering wheel and pedals.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Musk Now Says It's \"Pointless\" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMusk Now Says It's \"Pointless\" to Build a $25,000 Tesla for Human Drivers\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-05 19:36</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Nov 5 (Reuters) - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.</p><p>“Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.</p><p>Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be &#34;pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.</p><p>His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”</p><p>Musk responded: “We’re not making a non-robo…,” before he was interrupted by another Tesla executive. Musk later added: “Basically, I think having a regular $25K model is pointless. It would be silly.”</p><p>The April 5 Reuters article reported that Tesla had abandoned plans for an all-new, affordable mass-market EV but still planned a self-driving robotaxi. Since then, Musk has increasingly touted plans for robotaxis and autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Tesla and Musk did not respond to requests for comment for this story.</p><p>On the October earnings call, Musk said that Tesla does plan a “$25K car” – its “Cybercab,” a two-door, two-seat, fully autonomous vehicle. Musk unveiled a prototype at a Hollywood-style event on Oct. 10.</p><p>Musk says Tesla will start production of the Cybercab in 2026, after it deploys fully autonomous versions of its current Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Texas and California next year. The automaker faces steep technological, regulatory and legal challenges in delivering on Musk’s latest promises of fully autonomous vehicles, which echo others dating back about a decade.</p><p>An all-new affordable Tesla for human drivers had until recently been a linchpin of Tesla’s strategy to become the world’s biggest automaker. For several years, Tesla had a goal of producing 20 million vehicles a year by 2030, more than tenfold what it sells now and nearly double that of Toyota, the current global sales leader. In May, Tesla dropped the 20-million goal from its latest “impact report” on progress toward sustainability goals.</p><p>As recently as January of this year, Musk confirmed the plan for an all-new affordable EV in an earnings call. He said the next-generation vehicle would arrive in 2025 and launch a second major &#34;growth wave,” following the first wave with the release of its Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in 2017 and 2020, respectively.</p><p>Investors and Tesla fans commonly called the anticipated cheap car a “Model 2,” slotting in below the Model 3, currently the least-expensive Tesla, starting at $42,490.</p><p>In January, Musk described the all-new model as requiring “new revolutionary manufacturing technology.” But in April, after Reuters reported Tesla had scrapped the Model 2, Musk outlined a plan for “more affordable” models that could be produced “on the same manufacturing lines” as current Teslas.</p><p>Seth Goldstein, a Morningstar Research Services analyst, said he believes these less-expensive vehicles will be built on current Tesla platforms and priced in the mid-$30,000s.</p><p>“It was my understanding that the original plan was to make the more-affordable vehicle on a new platform,” he told Reuters. “I think Tesla realized they were late to making an affordable vehicle versus their Chinese-EV peers … So, they changed their strategy rather than make a large investment to produce a new vehicle.”</p><p>After the April 5 Reuters report that Tesla had killed the Model 2, Musk posted that day on X saying Tesla planned a “robotaxi unveil” in August. The event, delayed until October and held on a movie set near Los Angeles, underwhelmed Wall Street and drove a 9% drop in Tesla shares the following day.</p><p>Some investors viewed Musk’s comments on the Cybercab – along with displays of an autonomous “Robovan” concept and humanoid robots – as short on concrete details about the products. Tesla hasn’t said whether the Cybercab will feature new self-driving technology beyond the company’s “Full Self-Driving” feature in its current vehicles. Its existing models can’t fully drive themselves and require a human driver paying strict attention.</p><p>The target market for the Cybercab isn’t clear. The Cybercab’s sports-car looks and two-door, two-seat configuration – a nearly extinct layout in the wider U.S. auto market – puzzled some analysts who expected a robotaxi with more room for passengers and luggage.</p><p>Musk, in the October earnings call, said the concept vehicle’s design was “optimized for autonomy” and would also deliver affordability.</p><p>“It will cost … roughly 25K, so it is a 25K car,” Musk said. “It just won&#39;t have a steering wheel and pedals.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4527":"明星科技股","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","BK4581":"高盛持仓","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0964807845.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME & GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","SG9999015978.USD":"利安颠覆性创新基金A","LU2023250330.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (USD) INC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4099":"汽车制造商","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC"},"source_url":"https://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2481765745","content_text":"Nov 5 (Reuters) - When Reuters reported in April that Tesla had scrapped plans for a long-promised, next-generation $25,000 electric vehicle, the automaker’s stock plunged. Chief Executive Elon Musk rushed to respond on X, his social-media network.“Reuters is lying,” he posted, without elaborating. Tesla’s stock recovered some of its losses.Six months later, Musk appears to have backed into an admission that Tesla dropped its plans for a human-driven $25,000 car. He said in an Oct. 23 earnings call that building the affordable EV would be \"pointless” unless the car was fully autonomous.His latest remarks came in response to an investor asking: “When can we expect Tesla to give us the $25,000 non-robotaxi regular car model?”Musk responded: “We’re not making a non-robo…,” before he was interrupted by another Tesla executive. Musk later added: “Basically, I think having a regular $25K model is pointless. It would be silly.”The April 5 Reuters article reported that Tesla had abandoned plans for an all-new, affordable mass-market EV but still planned a self-driving robotaxi. Since then, Musk has increasingly touted plans for robotaxis and autonomous vehicles.Tesla and Musk did not respond to requests for comment for this story.On the October earnings call, Musk said that Tesla does plan a “$25K car” – its “Cybercab,” a two-door, two-seat, fully autonomous vehicle. Musk unveiled a prototype at a Hollywood-style event on Oct. 10.Musk says Tesla will start production of the Cybercab in 2026, after it deploys fully autonomous versions of its current Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Texas and California next year. The automaker faces steep technological, regulatory and legal challenges in delivering on Musk’s latest promises of fully autonomous vehicles, which echo others dating back about a decade.An all-new affordable Tesla for human drivers had until recently been a linchpin of Tesla’s strategy to become the world’s biggest automaker. For several years, Tesla had a goal of producing 20 million vehicles a year by 2030, more than tenfold what it sells now and nearly double that of Toyota, the current global sales leader. In May, Tesla dropped the 20-million goal from its latest “impact report” on progress toward sustainability goals.As recently as January of this year, Musk confirmed the plan for an all-new affordable EV in an earnings call. He said the next-generation vehicle would arrive in 2025 and launch a second major \"growth wave,” following the first wave with the release of its Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in 2017 and 2020, respectively.Investors and Tesla fans commonly called the anticipated cheap car a “Model 2,” slotting in below the Model 3, currently the least-expensive Tesla, starting at $42,490.In January, Musk described the all-new model as requiring “new revolutionary manufacturing technology.” But in April, after Reuters reported Tesla had scrapped the Model 2, Musk outlined a plan for “more affordable” models that could be produced “on the same manufacturing lines” as current Teslas.Seth Goldstein, a Morningstar Research Services analyst, said he believes these less-expensive vehicles will be built on current Tesla platforms and priced in the mid-$30,000s.“It was my understanding that the original plan was to make the more-affordable vehicle on a new platform,” he told Reuters. “I think Tesla realized they were late to making an affordable vehicle versus their Chinese-EV peers … So, they changed their strategy rather than make a large investment to produce a new vehicle.”After the April 5 Reuters report that Tesla had killed the Model 2, Musk posted that day on X saying Tesla planned a “robotaxi unveil” in August. The event, delayed until October and held on a movie set near Los Angeles, underwhelmed Wall Street and drove a 9% drop in Tesla shares the following day.Some investors viewed Musk’s comments on the Cybercab – along with displays of an autonomous “Robovan” concept and humanoid robots – as short on concrete details about the products. Tesla hasn’t said whether the Cybercab will feature new self-driving technology beyond the company’s “Full Self-Driving” feature in its current vehicles. Its existing models can’t fully drive themselves and require a human driver paying strict attention.The target market for the Cybercab isn’t clear. The Cybercab’s sports-car looks and two-door, two-seat configuration – a nearly extinct layout in the wider U.S. auto market – puzzled some analysts who expected a robotaxi with more room for passengers and luggage.Musk, in the October earnings call, said the concept vehicle’s design was “optimized for autonomy” and would also deliver affordability.“It will cost … roughly 25K, so it is a 25K car,” Musk said. “It just won't have a steering wheel and pedals.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3166,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9946617968,"gmtCreate":1680939610055,"gmtModify":1680939613581,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I am long on NIO","listText":"I am long on NIO","text":"I am long on NIO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9946617968","repostId":"2325594227","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2325594227","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1680933869,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2325594227?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-04-08 14:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Nio Stock Sank Over 14% This Week","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2325594227","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"It's not just Tesla looking to grow EV sales in the large Chinese EV market.","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>What happened</h2><p>Just when it looked like <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a> shares were on an upswing from multiyear lows, the stock of the Chinese electric-vehicle (EV) manufacturer took another plunge this week. Nio&#39;s American depositary shares sank by 14.3% in the shortened trading week, according to data provided by S&amp;P Global Market Intelligence.</p><p>Shares surged higher by nearly 30% in the final half of March. But it and other technology stocks were out of favor this week, with the <strong>Nasdaq Composite</strong> index leading markets down for the week with a decline of more than 1%. Nio faced some of its own headwinds, though, which helps explain its outsize move lower. </p><h2>So what</h2><p>Investors reacted with disappointment on Monday after Nio reported its March and first-quarter deliveries over the weekend. The company hit the low end of its estimate with quarterly shipments of 31,041 EVs. That was up more than 20% year over year, but down sequentially from the more than 40,000 vehicles delivered in the fourth quarter. </p><p>Perhaps more significant for investors, though, is what is on the horizon when it comes to Nio&#39;s larger competitors. </p><h2>Now what</h2><p>One immediate concern for Nio shareholders is the growth <strong>Tesla</strong> is experiencing in both China and Europe. The American automaker is gaining market share in China, and new data shows it is dominating in Norway, where Nio first entered the European market. </p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cfdd1d244e7488ed31fa4cff8471d964\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"393\"/></p><p>Image source: Nio.</p><p>The China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) just reported that Tesla sold 88,869 China-made EVs in March, nearly a 20% increase from February. The report also showed that China-based <strong>BYD</strong> sold more than 200,000 EVs and hybrid vehicles, nearly doubling its volume year over year. Warren Buffet has been a longtime owner of BYD shares, and its growth in the EV and battery sectors is starting to show the reasons why. </p><p>To add to the difficulty for Nio, more large automakers are now focusing on the Chinese EV market. <strong>Toyota</strong> plans to sell 1.5 million EVs globally by 2026, up from just the 24,000 it sold last year. It also plans to add two new EV models in China next year, according to a <em>Wall Street Journal</em> report. </p><p>Nio should get back on track to grow its production as supply chain issues and other headwinds abate. But while the Chinese and European EV markets are large and growing, established competitors are going to make it difficult -- if not impossible -- for Nio to dominate any of its markets. Those fears helped spark this week&#39;s sell-off in the stock. </p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Nio Stock Sank Over 14% This Week</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy Nio Stock Sank Over 14% This Week\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-04-08 14:04 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/07/why-nio-stock-sank-over-14-this-week/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>What happenedJust when it looked like Nio shares were on an upswing from multiyear lows, the stock of the Chinese electric-vehicle (EV) manufacturer took another plunge this week. Nio's American ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/07/why-nio-stock-sank-over-14-this-week/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/07/why-nio-stock-sank-over-14-this-week/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2325594227","content_text":"What happenedJust when it looked like Nio shares were on an upswing from multiyear lows, the stock of the Chinese electric-vehicle (EV) manufacturer took another plunge this week. Nio's American depositary shares sank by 14.3% in the shortened trading week, according to data provided by S&P Global Market Intelligence.Shares surged higher by nearly 30% in the final half of March. But it and other technology stocks were out of favor this week, with the Nasdaq Composite index leading markets down for the week with a decline of more than 1%. Nio faced some of its own headwinds, though, which helps explain its outsize move lower. So whatInvestors reacted with disappointment on Monday after Nio reported its March and first-quarter deliveries over the weekend. The company hit the low end of its estimate with quarterly shipments of 31,041 EVs. That was up more than 20% year over year, but down sequentially from the more than 40,000 vehicles delivered in the fourth quarter. Perhaps more significant for investors, though, is what is on the horizon when it comes to Nio's larger competitors. Now whatOne immediate concern for Nio shareholders is the growth Tesla is experiencing in both China and Europe. The American automaker is gaining market share in China, and new data shows it is dominating in Norway, where Nio first entered the European market. Image source: Nio.The China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) just reported that Tesla sold 88,869 China-made EVs in March, nearly a 20% increase from February. The report also showed that China-based BYD sold more than 200,000 EVs and hybrid vehicles, nearly doubling its volume year over year. Warren Buffet has been a longtime owner of BYD shares, and its growth in the EV and battery sectors is starting to show the reasons why. To add to the difficulty for Nio, more large automakers are now focusing on the Chinese EV market. Toyota plans to sell 1.5 million EVs globally by 2026, up from just the 24,000 it sold last year. It also plans to add two new EV models in China next year, according to a Wall Street Journal report. Nio should get back on track to grow its production as supply chain issues and other headwinds abate. But while the Chinese and European EV markets are large and growing, established competitors are going to make it difficult -- if not impossible -- for Nio to dominate any of its markets. 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The","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Investment thesis</h2><p>NIO (NYSE:NIO) was one of the hottest stocks during the EV frenzy of 2020-2021. The company&#39;s market cap was close to $100 billion and is now traded much cheaper. My analysis suggests the selloff was fair because the company is losing the competition to its local rivals, not to mention other automotive giants entering the Chinese EV market. Moreover, NIO is highly likely to miss the aggressive growth profile consensus estimates expected from the company. Therefore, the stock is a strong sell.</p><h2>Company information</h2><p>NIO is a Chinese electric vehicle [EV] manufacturer incorporated in 2014. The company is headquartered in Shanghai. NIO designs, develops, jointly manufactures, and sells its vehicles in the premium EV market.</p><p>The company&#39;s fiscal year ends on December 31 with a single reportable segment.</p><h2>Financials</h2><p>NIO went public in the U.S. in 2018. It means we have a relatively short horizon for financial analysis. Over the last five years, the company&#39;s sales have increased by about ten-fold, and the company now generates positive gross profit but looks far from a breakeven from the operating profit perspective.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c3ab3407bca2df1ff1e53abe2cfa8893\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"205\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s calculations</p><p>The company reinvests a substantial 20% of sales to R&amp;D to improve its vehicles. SG&amp;A to revenue ratio also looks high, though it has improved significantly in recent years, meaning the company is striving to expand its operating margin as the business scales up.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f64f338e36445eb56a2680e9933ec33\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>Looking at the latest quarterly dynamics, the company faces challenges because Q1 sales were flat while expenses snowballed. It means profitability metrics are shrinking, adding more uncertainty to the company&#39;s break-even timing. NIO&#39;s flat sales in Q1 are a huge red flag for me because the Chinese EV market grew 25% in Q1 2023 compared to the same period a year earlier. It means that NIO&#39;s difficulties are not due to the overall weakness and cannot be explained by cyclicality. Weakness in NIO&#39;s Q1 sales is highly likely related to the weak demand for the company&#39;s vehicles due to the unattractiveness of the company&#39;s offerings. This led to about $750 million operating loss for the quarter. It is crucial because the company is burning cash at a rapid pace. As you can see, the company&#39;s cash balance almost halved in just six quarters.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/091deb88d6aa252c31585a445c012242\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"189\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha</p><p>During Q1 of FY 2023, the company&#39;s cash balance decreased by about a billion dollars. If NIO sustains this cash burn rate, the company will need to raise financing already in FY 2024. This is a red flag for investors as well. The company will raise debt finance, adversely affecting profitability and decreasing shareholders&#39; wealth. Or, the company might issue more shares, which is also bad for investors whose stakes will be diluted. There are no good options for a company rapidly running out of cash. You can also see below that NIO&#39;s liquidity is rapidly melting and liquidity ratios are likely to fall below one in just a few quarters.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c97ffdd742a8adffa5d9d9695e3656d9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"152\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s calculations</p><h2>Valuation</h2><p>NIO stock underperformed the broad U.S. market this year with about a 3% decline in the stock price. Overall, the stock now trades about six times cheaper than January 2021 peaks. Seeking Alpha Quant assigned the stock a low &#34;D&#34; valuation grade, meaning NIO is not attractively valued. This is due to the company&#39;s high valuation ratios compared to the sector median.</p><p>I want to cross-check the multiples analysis with a discounted cash flow [DCF] approach. Due to substantial political and country risks, I use a high 15% WACC for the valuation of Chinese companies. I have revenue consensus estimates for the next decade, though I consider them too optimistic, with about 17% CAGR. Therefore, I will simulate a more conservative scenario as well. Consensus estimates also forecast that adjusted EPS will break even after FY 2025. Therefore, I expect a positive FCF margin starting only from FY 2026. I project that the FCF margin will expand by two percentage points yearly.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b237d3982bcc784f2cc4bd14086d617\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"225\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s calculations</p><p>As you can see, the company&#39;s fair business value is about $58 billion, meaning the stock is about four times undervalued. But 17% revenue CAGR is too optimistic. For example, according to statista.com, the Chinese EV market is expected to grow at a modest 6.4% CAGR over the next five years. To be not so pessimistic, I round up the revenue growth rate to 7% for my second scenario. Since the growth rate is more conservative for the second scenario, so are the FCF assumptions.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/edfd7d27eb00d2bf0074dfa05fe1990c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"236\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s calculations</p><p>Based on more conservative assumptions, the stock now looks fairly valued with little upside potential. Overall, I believe the second scenario is more likely to unfold than the first one. In the &#34;Risks to consider&#34; section below, I explain why the company is unlikely to meet long-term consensus expectations.</p><h2>Risks to consider</h2><p>As we saw in my article&#39;s &#34;Valuation&#34; section, consensus estimates forecast very aggressive revenue growth. Consensus estimates project FY 2023 revenue at $9.25 billion, meaning about 30% growth compared to the prior year. The correlation between income and the number of deliveries is not 100%, but extreme dependence exists. Therefore, for my analysis, I expect the company to deliver 30% more EVs this year than in FY 2022. FY 2023 deliveries should be about 160,000 to meet the projected consensus revenue. During the first five months of 2023, NIO delivered about 44,000 vehicles, meaning about 116,000 have to be delivered during the remaining seven months of the year. In other words, between June and December of 2023, the company has to deliver about 16.5 thousand vehicles per month on average. In the below table, you can see two significant trends. First, the number of deliveries has declined since February and almost halved. Second, the company was never even close to 16.5 thousand deliveries this year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6231bc8482187baa159191a517f99601\" tg-width=\"530\" tg-height=\"234\"/></p><p>Compiled by the author</p><p>Therefore, the risk that the company will not be able to meet expected revenue growth is exceptionally high in the short- and long-term. If the company fails to achieve expected revenue this year, long-term earnings projections will likely be revised by analysts, which will directly adversely affect valuations.</p><p>The company faces intense competition from local EV rivals like Li Auto (LI) and the undisputed global EV leader Tesla (TSLA). We should also not forget other established giant automakers like Toyota (TM) and Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY). In my opinion, the Chinese EV market looks like a&#34;red ocean&#34;, and NIO does not look like a shark in this massacre. Global automotive giants possess more resources to invest in innovation and ramp production. NIO is definitely in a weaker position than TSLA of VWAGY. But the company looks much weaker compared to its Chinese rival, LI. Below is the dynamic of NIO and Li Auto deliveries this year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7fb23911ee3fdf87bbaa8b95d9830d95\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"250\"/></p><p>Compiled by the author</p><p>We could have blamed possible weakness in the Chinese EV market overall, but we see that Li Auto improved its deliveries sequentially every month this year. After June deliveries are announced, Li Auto will likely surpass its full FY 2022 in the number of vehicles delivered. On the contrary, NIO is very far from surpassing last year&#39;s deliveries. It is a huge red flag for me because the company is losing its market share in the domestic market, meaning NIO&#39;s vehicles will not be competitive outside China as well.</p><h2>Bottom line</h2><p>To conclude, NIO stock is a strong sell. The company is losing market share in the domestic market. If the company is not competitive at home, the chances for a successful global expansion are very close to zero. NIO is highly likely to underperform the ambitious 17% long-term revenue CAGR expected by consensus estimates. Moreover, the company is still burning cash, and the balance sheet looks like the company will need to raise substantial amounts next year. A recent rally might be a good chance to sell the stock because the future does not look bright for NIO.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO: Sell This Dead Cat Bounce</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO: Sell This Dead Cat Bounce\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-06-22 19:17 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4612901-nio-stock-losing-market-share-in-domestic-market-sell><strong>Seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Investment thesisNIO (NYSE:NIO) was one of the hottest stocks during the EV frenzy of 2020-2021. The company's market cap was close to $100 billion and is now traded much cheaper. My analysis suggests...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4612901-nio-stock-losing-market-share-in-domestic-market-sell\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","09866":"蔚来-SW","NIO.SI":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4612901-nio-stock-losing-market-share-in-domestic-market-sell","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2345738161","content_text":"Investment thesisNIO (NYSE:NIO) was one of the hottest stocks during the EV frenzy of 2020-2021. The company's market cap was close to $100 billion and is now traded much cheaper. My analysis suggests the selloff was fair because the company is losing the competition to its local rivals, not to mention other automotive giants entering the Chinese EV market. Moreover, NIO is highly likely to miss the aggressive growth profile consensus estimates expected from the company. Therefore, the stock is a strong sell.Company informationNIO is a Chinese electric vehicle [EV] manufacturer incorporated in 2014. The company is headquartered in Shanghai. NIO designs, develops, jointly manufactures, and sells its vehicles in the premium EV market.The company's fiscal year ends on December 31 with a single reportable segment.FinancialsNIO went public in the U.S. in 2018. It means we have a relatively short horizon for financial analysis. Over the last five years, the company's sales have increased by about ten-fold, and the company now generates positive gross profit but looks far from a breakeven from the operating profit perspective.Author's calculationsThe company reinvests a substantial 20% of sales to R&D to improve its vehicles. SG&A to revenue ratio also looks high, though it has improved significantly in recent years, meaning the company is striving to expand its operating margin as the business scales up.Data by YChartsLooking at the latest quarterly dynamics, the company faces challenges because Q1 sales were flat while expenses snowballed. It means profitability metrics are shrinking, adding more uncertainty to the company's break-even timing. NIO's flat sales in Q1 are a huge red flag for me because the Chinese EV market grew 25% in Q1 2023 compared to the same period a year earlier. It means that NIO's difficulties are not due to the overall weakness and cannot be explained by cyclicality. Weakness in NIO's Q1 sales is highly likely related to the weak demand for the company's vehicles due to the unattractiveness of the company's offerings. This led to about $750 million operating loss for the quarter. It is crucial because the company is burning cash at a rapid pace. As you can see, the company's cash balance almost halved in just six quarters.Seeking AlphaDuring Q1 of FY 2023, the company's cash balance decreased by about a billion dollars. If NIO sustains this cash burn rate, the company will need to raise financing already in FY 2024. This is a red flag for investors as well. The company will raise debt finance, adversely affecting profitability and decreasing shareholders' wealth. Or, the company might issue more shares, which is also bad for investors whose stakes will be diluted. There are no good options for a company rapidly running out of cash. You can also see below that NIO's liquidity is rapidly melting and liquidity ratios are likely to fall below one in just a few quarters.Author's calculationsValuationNIO stock underperformed the broad U.S. market this year with about a 3% decline in the stock price. Overall, the stock now trades about six times cheaper than January 2021 peaks. Seeking Alpha Quant assigned the stock a low \"D\" valuation grade, meaning NIO is not attractively valued. This is due to the company's high valuation ratios compared to the sector median.I want to cross-check the multiples analysis with a discounted cash flow [DCF] approach. Due to substantial political and country risks, I use a high 15% WACC for the valuation of Chinese companies. I have revenue consensus estimates for the next decade, though I consider them too optimistic, with about 17% CAGR. Therefore, I will simulate a more conservative scenario as well. Consensus estimates also forecast that adjusted EPS will break even after FY 2025. Therefore, I expect a positive FCF margin starting only from FY 2026. I project that the FCF margin will expand by two percentage points yearly.Author's calculationsAs you can see, the company's fair business value is about $58 billion, meaning the stock is about four times undervalued. But 17% revenue CAGR is too optimistic. For example, according to statista.com, the Chinese EV market is expected to grow at a modest 6.4% CAGR over the next five years. To be not so pessimistic, I round up the revenue growth rate to 7% for my second scenario. Since the growth rate is more conservative for the second scenario, so are the FCF assumptions.Author's calculationsBased on more conservative assumptions, the stock now looks fairly valued with little upside potential. Overall, I believe the second scenario is more likely to unfold than the first one. In the \"Risks to consider\" section below, I explain why the company is unlikely to meet long-term consensus expectations.Risks to considerAs we saw in my article's \"Valuation\" section, consensus estimates forecast very aggressive revenue growth. Consensus estimates project FY 2023 revenue at $9.25 billion, meaning about 30% growth compared to the prior year. The correlation between income and the number of deliveries is not 100%, but extreme dependence exists. Therefore, for my analysis, I expect the company to deliver 30% more EVs this year than in FY 2022. FY 2023 deliveries should be about 160,000 to meet the projected consensus revenue. During the first five months of 2023, NIO delivered about 44,000 vehicles, meaning about 116,000 have to be delivered during the remaining seven months of the year. In other words, between June and December of 2023, the company has to deliver about 16.5 thousand vehicles per month on average. In the below table, you can see two significant trends. First, the number of deliveries has declined since February and almost halved. Second, the company was never even close to 16.5 thousand deliveries this year.Compiled by the authorTherefore, the risk that the company will not be able to meet expected revenue growth is exceptionally high in the short- and long-term. If the company fails to achieve expected revenue this year, long-term earnings projections will likely be revised by analysts, which will directly adversely affect valuations.The company faces intense competition from local EV rivals like Li Auto (LI) and the undisputed global EV leader Tesla (TSLA). We should also not forget other established giant automakers like Toyota (TM) and Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY). In my opinion, the Chinese EV market looks like a\"red ocean\", and NIO does not look like a shark in this massacre. Global automotive giants possess more resources to invest in innovation and ramp production. NIO is definitely in a weaker position than TSLA of VWAGY. But the company looks much weaker compared to its Chinese rival, LI. Below is the dynamic of NIO and Li Auto deliveries this year.Compiled by the authorWe could have blamed possible weakness in the Chinese EV market overall, but we see that Li Auto improved its deliveries sequentially every month this year. After June deliveries are announced, Li Auto will likely surpass its full FY 2022 in the number of vehicles delivered. On the contrary, NIO is very far from surpassing last year's deliveries. It is a huge red flag for me because the company is losing its market share in the domestic market, meaning NIO's vehicles will not be competitive outside China as well.Bottom lineTo conclude, NIO stock is a strong sell. The company is losing market share in the domestic market. If the company is not competitive at home, the chances for a successful global expansion are very close to zero. NIO is highly likely to underperform the ambitious 17% long-term revenue CAGR expected by consensus estimates. Moreover, the company is still burning cash, and the balance sheet looks like the company will need to raise substantial amounts next year. 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It launched the new SUV G6 on June 29, with deliveries starting on July 10. The company will also launch an MPV called X9 during the year.</p><p>Model switching has been one of the major factors behind the weak sales of both Nio and Xpeng over the past year, and with that work largely complete, both companies have shown signs of improvement in deliveries.</p><p>Li Auto has not been plagued by model switching this year and has continued to see strong delivery growth since the start of the year, delivering 32,575 vehicles in June, the first time it has passed the 30,000 mark.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a7af46138e0c2a414462baaf6fc9a1d\" tg-width=\"1500\" tg-height=\"751\"/></p><p>&#34;1H23 is now in the rear-view mirror, and we are seeing green shoots of operational resurgence with steady production ramp-ups starting from July,&#34; Hsiao&#39;s team wrote in their research note.</p><p>Despite believing that sales are expected to improve sequentially, the team lowered their 2023 sales expectations for Nio and Xpeng to reflect tepid sell-through during the model transition in the second half of the year. At the same time, the team raised their Li Auto delivery forecast due to stronger-than-expected model growth.</p><p>Specifically, the team lowered their 2023 sales forecast for the Nio to 175,000 units, down 24 percent from the previous 230,000 units.</p><p>Their volume forecast for Xpeng in 2023 was lowered by 15 percent to 132,000 units from 155,000 units previously, and their volume forecast for Li Auto was raised by 17 percent to 350,000 units from 300,000 units previously.</p><p>In the first half of the year, Nio, Xpeng, and Li Auto delivered 54,561, 41,435, and 139,117 vehicles, respectively, according to their previously announced figures monitored by CnEVPost.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38f450d1f7ad4f1e8f9ffeda7c345b3e\" tg-width=\"1500\" tg-height=\"752\"/></p><p>Hsiao&#39;s team believes that the guidance issued by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) on July 21 to promote auto consumption lays a favorable foundation for EV companies in the second half of the year, despite the weak macro environment.</p><p>At the same time, the team believes that the scalability of autonomous driving remains underrated.</p><p>Despite making solid progress in L2+ autonomous driving development, China&#39;s major EV startups do not yet appear to have enjoyed a valuation premium during the sector downturn.</p><p>As China commits to deploying L3 vehicle automation, startups should accelerate the rollout of city navigation-assisted driving features on a wider scale, the team said, adding that they expect consumer adoption of autonomous driving features to grow significantly over the next 12-18 months.</p><p>&#34;With this change, we would encourage investors to reconsider the value of EV startups&#39; software/algorithm, which looks set to effect a reshuffle of the auto industry and act as the next key catalyst that further drives a re-rating of the EV trio&#39;s shares,&#34; the team wrote.</p><p>Additionally, the team is bullish on the opportunity to cash in on new technology after Volkswagen&#39;s recent deal with Xpeng.</p><p>Following Xpeng&#39;s announcement of its strategic partnership with Volkswagen, investors began to ask whether there were additional monetization opportunities in China and overseas for the EV trio, given their industry-leading position in affordable EV platforms and technologies, compared to traditional OEMs around the world, the team said.</p><p>For automakers, this is a key step in moving beyond traditional business models and generating new revenue streams primarily from software, services, which are highly profitable and recurring, the team noted.</p><p>Despite year-to-date gains of 35 percent-96 percent, Nio and Xpeng are still 70 percent-80 below their late 2020-early 2021 peaks, the team said.</p><p>&#34;We think the EV trio&#39;s valuations have yet to fully capture the idiosyncratic volume upturn from 2H23e, of which the 68-190% YoY growth we expect should outshine that of peers,&#34; the team wrote.</p><p>Morgan Stanley raised its price target on Nio by about 56 percent to $18.7 from $12 previously. Considering that the company closed at $13.24 yesterday, the price target implies a 41 percent upside.</p><p>The team raised its price target on Xpeng by 103 percent to $25.4 from $12.5. Xpeng closed at $20.22 yesterday on the US stock market, and the target implies an upside of 26 percent.</p><p>Morgan Stanley raised its price target on Li Auto by about 33 percent to $53 from $40. 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It launched the new SUV G6 on June 29, with deliveries starting on July 10. The company will also launch an MPV called X9 during the year.Model switching has been one of the major factors behind the weak sales of both Nio and Xpeng over the past year, and with that work largely complete, both companies have shown signs of improvement in deliveries.Li Auto has not been plagued by model switching this year and has continued to see strong delivery growth since the start of the year, delivering 32,575 vehicles in June, the first time it has passed the 30,000 mark.\"1H23 is now in the rear-view mirror, and we are seeing green shoots of operational resurgence with steady production ramp-ups starting from July,\" Hsiao's team wrote in their research note.Despite believing that sales are expected to improve sequentially, the team lowered their 2023 sales expectations for Nio and Xpeng to reflect tepid sell-through during the model transition in the second half of the year. At the same time, the team raised their Li Auto delivery forecast due to stronger-than-expected model growth.Specifically, the team lowered their 2023 sales forecast for the Nio to 175,000 units, down 24 percent from the previous 230,000 units.Their volume forecast for Xpeng in 2023 was lowered by 15 percent to 132,000 units from 155,000 units previously, and their volume forecast for Li Auto was raised by 17 percent to 350,000 units from 300,000 units previously.In the first half of the year, Nio, Xpeng, and Li Auto delivered 54,561, 41,435, and 139,117 vehicles, respectively, according to their previously announced figures monitored by CnEVPost.Hsiao's team believes that the guidance issued by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) on July 21 to promote auto consumption lays a favorable foundation for EV companies in the second half of the year, despite the weak macro environment.At the same time, the team believes that the scalability of autonomous driving remains underrated.Despite making solid progress in L2+ autonomous driving development, China's major EV startups do not yet appear to have enjoyed a valuation premium during the sector downturn.As China commits to deploying L3 vehicle automation, startups should accelerate the rollout of city navigation-assisted driving features on a wider scale, the team said, adding that they expect consumer adoption of autonomous driving features to grow significantly over the next 12-18 months.\"With this change, we would encourage investors to reconsider the value of EV startups' software/algorithm, which looks set to effect a reshuffle of the auto industry and act as the next key catalyst that further drives a re-rating of the EV trio's shares,\" the team wrote.Additionally, the team is bullish on the opportunity to cash in on new technology after Volkswagen's recent deal with Xpeng.Following Xpeng's announcement of its strategic partnership with Volkswagen, investors began to ask whether there were additional monetization opportunities in China and overseas for the EV trio, given their industry-leading position in affordable EV platforms and technologies, compared to traditional OEMs around the world, the team said.For automakers, this is a key step in moving beyond traditional business models and generating new revenue streams primarily from software, services, which are highly profitable and recurring, the team noted.Despite year-to-date gains of 35 percent-96 percent, Nio and Xpeng are still 70 percent-80 below their late 2020-early 2021 peaks, the team said.\"We think the EV trio's valuations have yet to fully capture the idiosyncratic volume upturn from 2H23e, of which the 68-190% YoY growth we expect should outshine that of peers,\" the team wrote.Morgan Stanley raised its price target on Nio by about 56 percent to $18.7 from $12 previously. Considering that the company closed at $13.24 yesterday, the price target implies a 41 percent upside.The team raised its price target on Xpeng by 103 percent to $25.4 from $12.5. Xpeng closed at $20.22 yesterday on the US stock market, and the target implies an upside of 26 percent.Morgan Stanley raised its price target on Li Auto by about 33 percent to $53 from $40. 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Chung believes Nio’s short-term momentum could sustain into September for 4 following reasons:</p><ol><li><p>“Our industry checks suggest NIO’s order intake remained strong this week with WoW order intake tracking at stable, vs other OEMs seeing a WoW decline;</p></li><li><p>The company is due to launch EC6 in Aug-23;</p></li><li><p>Sep/Oct-23 high season is ahead which is likely to drive solid seasonal QoQ improvement into 4Q23E at sector level; and</p></li><li><p>We expect NIO’s monthly run-rate to further accelerate to 25-30k in 4Q23E.”</p></li></ol><p>Another positive that could help Nio stock to re-rate higher is the potential cooperation with German luxury brands on battery swap facility.</p><p>“NIO has a competitive advantage in this area,” Chung wrote in a note.</p><p>“We remove the High Risk rating as the stock now has a long trading history, with full-year sales volume potentially exceeding 200k units this year. We believe the company’s corporate governance and long-term growth visibility have also improved.”</p><p>Nio stock leaped 0.69% higher on Monday. Shares are up 52% year-to-date.</p><p></p></body></html>","source":"highlight_streetinsider","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>This Is Why Citi Expects EV Maker Nio Stock to Continue Moving Higher</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThis Is Why Citi Expects EV Maker Nio Stock to Continue Moving Higher\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-08-08 10:05 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=22004546><strong>StreetInsider</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Citi analyst Jeff Chung reiterated a Buy rating on Nio stock and hiked the price target to $19.20 per share from the prior $13.90.The new price target implies an upside potential of about 30%. Chung ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=22004546\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"C":"花旗","NIO.SI":"蔚来","NIO":"蔚来","09866":"蔚来-SW"},"source_url":"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=22004546","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2357523411","content_text":"Citi analyst Jeff Chung reiterated a Buy rating on Nio stock and hiked the price target to $19.20 per share from the prior $13.90.The new price target implies an upside potential of about 30%. Chung believes Nio’s short-term momentum could sustain into September for 4 following reasons:“Our industry checks suggest NIO’s order intake remained strong this week with WoW order intake tracking at stable, vs other OEMs seeing a WoW decline;The company is due to launch EC6 in Aug-23;Sep/Oct-23 high season is ahead which is likely to drive solid seasonal QoQ improvement into 4Q23E at sector level; andWe expect NIO’s monthly run-rate to further accelerate to 25-30k in 4Q23E.”Another positive that could help Nio stock to re-rate higher is the potential cooperation with German luxury brands on battery swap facility.“NIO has a competitive advantage in this area,” Chung wrote in a note.“We remove the High Risk rating as the stock now has a long trading history, with full-year sales volume potentially exceeding 200k units this year. We believe the company’s corporate governance and long-term growth visibility have also improved.”Nio stock leaped 0.69% higher on Monday. Shares are up 52% year-to-date.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":231,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":217247603245144,"gmtCreate":1694062279028,"gmtModify":1694062284850,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So the real qns is... are you a speculator or an investor? Are you looking at 2-5 months or 2-5years??","listText":"So the real qns is... are you a speculator or an investor? Are you looking at 2-5 months or 2-5years??","text":"So the real qns is... are you a speculator or an investor? Are you looking at 2-5 months or 2-5years??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/217247603245144","repostId":"2365985077","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2365985077","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1694054990,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2365985077?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-09-07 10:49","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Is Not The Next Tesla","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2365985077","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"NIO faces challenges in the near and intermediate term due to a sluggish Chinese economy, rising costs, lower margins, increased competition, and Tesla's dominance.NIO's Q2 earnings missed consensus e","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>NIO faces challenges in the near and intermediate term due to a sluggish Chinese economy, rising costs, lower margins, increased competition, and Tesla&#39;s dominance.</p></li><li><p>NIO&#39;s Q2 earnings missed consensus estimates, with a decrease in revenue, deliveries, and vehicle sales, and a significant net loss.</p></li><li><p>Tesla&#39;s lower prices and economies of scale advantage make it difficult for NIO to effectively compete, raising concerns about NIO&#39;s long-term profitability.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/afa41a3beb052988217d740151a34fbd\" alt=\"Drew Angerer/Getty Images News\" title=\"Drew Angerer/Getty Images News\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Drew Angerer/Getty Images News</span></p><p>NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) is an exciting pure EV company out of China. I&#39;ve been bullish on NIO due to its innovative vehicles, growth prospects, and future profitability potential. Moreover, due to its higher-end EV market position, production capacity, and other factors, I&#39;ve often said that NIO is the closest pure EV competitor that Tesla (TSLA) has.</p><p>However, despite NIO&#39;s considerable long-term growth and profitability potential, the company may face challenges in the near and intermediate term. NIO&#39;s problems could persist for several reasons, including a sluggish Chinese economy, rising costs, lower margins, increased competition, and other variables. Nevertheless, a primary concern for NIO is Tesla. Tesla has illustrated that it can drop vehicle prices while maintaining high profitability, taking market share from NIO and other EV manufacturers.</p><p>Unfortunately for NIO, it cannot drop prices low enough to effectively compete with Tesla because of Tesla&#39;s economies of scale advantage and other factors. Therefore, NIO could continue struggling as we move forward. Moreover, NIO&#39;s recent earnings announcement showed the company missing top and bottom-line consensus estimates, putting the company&#39;s outlook into question. Additionally, NIO&#39;s margins continue deteriorating, and uncertainty surrounds its stock. Due to the increased transparency, NIO&#39;s risk/reward ratio has fallen, and I&#39;m taking down my buy rating on its stock, transitioning to a hold instead.</p><h2 id=\"id_2091863318\">Technically - Could Rally In The Near Term</h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8f932649cc1766e74122b4a9e6074167\" alt=\"NIO (StockCharts.com)\" title=\"NIO (StockCharts.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"676\"/><span>NIO (StockCharts.com)</span></p><p>I won&#39;t deny it. Technically, NIO&#39;s chart appears bullish in the near term here. The stock likely put in a long-term bottom around the $7 level, staging a robust rally to around $16 before dropping back to the $10 range. We recently witnessed the 50-day MA move above the 200-day MA, a bullish technical signal. We also see a possible basing platform around the $10 support, implying we may see a rally in the near term. Nevertheless, this stock remains highly uncertain for the long term despite the near-term positives.</p><h2 id=\"id_238195263\">NIO&#39;s Missing Numbers - Puts Outlook in Question</h2><p>NIO recently reported Q2 Non-GAAP EPADS of -$0.45, missing the four-cent consensus number. Moreover, it reported revenue of $1.21B, a $60M miss, and a 14.8% YoY decrease. Q2 deliveries came in at 23,520 vehicles, a 6.1% YoY decrease. Q2 vehicle sales came in at about <em>$991M</em>, representing a 25% YoY decline. Vehicle margin was only 6.2%, a staggering drop from the 16.7% in the same quarter last year.</p><h2 id=\"id_3628737876\">NIO&#39;s Staggering $828 Million Loss</h2><p>Additionally, NIO&#39;s gross margin crashed to just 1% from 13% in the same quarter last year. NIO&#39;s Q2 net loss widened to more than 6 billion Yuan, equating to a staggering quarterly loss of $828 million. Unfortunately, this massive loss isn&#39;t new for the company, as NIO&#39;s TTM loss is close to $3 billion. NIO produced about <em>$6 billion</em> in revenues during the same time frame. Thus, the $64,000 question is, when will NIO become profitable?</p><p>The answer is no time soon. Moreover, a capital raise could come shortly. Therefore, there&#39;s likely dilution in NIO&#39;s future, implying the stock could fall or stay range bound longer-term. Moreover, I wonder if NIO can effectively compete with Tesla in the long run.</p><h2 id=\"id_1614492524\">NIO&#39;s Massive Tesla Problem</h2><p>Tesla dominates China&#39;s higher-end EV segment. Tesla recorded more than 84,000 unit sales last month (August). This sales increase represents a 31% YoY surge for Tesla, bringing its YTD vehicles sold in China to about 625,000. NIO delivered 19,329 in August, bringing its YTD vehicle sales count to 94,352. However, management is guiding to sales of 15-17K in September. Therefore, we&#39;re seeing NIO&#39;s order book slowing down, and NIO needs many more sales (200-300K annually) to have a chance to be profitable. Tesla&#39;s position is so prominent in China that NIO may find it challenging to compete effectively in the long run.</p><h2 id=\"id_2894464553\">What Would You Buy - Tesla or NIO?</h2><p>NIO&#39;s popular ET5 sedan starts at about $46,100, and the price can climb into the $50-$60K range quickly once options are added. NIO&#39;s EC6 (Model Y competitor) starts at about $52,400, and the price can surge into the $60-$70K range with options. In contrast, the Model Y starts at only $41,000 in China and has (arguably) more advanced technologies and better engineering. Due to Tesla&#39;s remarkable ability to control prices, its mass-market vehicles are far more affordable than its prime competitor in China. Therefore, NIO&#39;s recent sales improvement may be temporary, and Tesla could continue taking NIO&#39;s market share as we advance. NIO can have a niche place in the EV market, but whether it can become mainstream and profitable remains to be seen. Therefore, I need more certainty as an investor here. Until then, I would rather own Tesla&#39;s stock instead.</p><h2 id=\"id_3025812721\">NIO: Is It Worth The Risk?</h2><p>NIO is an increased-risk investment because it is a Chinese company. However, NIO is even riskier because it&#39;s a highly unprofitable Chinese company. There is the added risk of unrelenting competition from Tesla and other profitable higher-end EV automakers. Moreover, some market participants have raised questions regarding NIO&#39;s accounting practices, pointing to a &#34;Philidor&#34; like entity (Wuhan Weineng) inflating NIO&#39;s revenues and profitability in recent years. Therefore, we have an additional risk of accounting irregularities with NIO. As an investor, why do I need to take such risks? To see NIO succeed? The company may grow in the long run, and its share price could go much higher in the coming years. Nevertheless, there is also an inflated risk of sideways price action and failure, which makes NIO a less attractive investment long-term. Therefore, I&#39;ve reduced my buy rating to hold, recently selling my NIO shares following the troubling Q2 earnings announcement.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Is Not The Next Tesla</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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(NYSE:NIO) is an exciting pure EV company out of China. I've been bullish on NIO due to its innovative vehicles, growth prospects, and future profitability potential. Moreover, due to its higher-end EV market position, production capacity, and other factors, I've often said that NIO is the closest pure EV competitor that Tesla (TSLA) has.However, despite NIO's considerable long-term growth and profitability potential, the company may face challenges in the near and intermediate term. NIO's problems could persist for several reasons, including a sluggish Chinese economy, rising costs, lower margins, increased competition, and other variables. Nevertheless, a primary concern for NIO is Tesla. Tesla has illustrated that it can drop vehicle prices while maintaining high profitability, taking market share from NIO and other EV manufacturers.Unfortunately for NIO, it cannot drop prices low enough to effectively compete with Tesla because of Tesla's economies of scale advantage and other factors. Therefore, NIO could continue struggling as we move forward. Moreover, NIO's recent earnings announcement showed the company missing top and bottom-line consensus estimates, putting the company's outlook into question. Additionally, NIO's margins continue deteriorating, and uncertainty surrounds its stock. Due to the increased transparency, NIO's risk/reward ratio has fallen, and I'm taking down my buy rating on its stock, transitioning to a hold instead.Technically - Could Rally In The Near TermNIO (StockCharts.com)I won't deny it. Technically, NIO's chart appears bullish in the near term here. The stock likely put in a long-term bottom around the $7 level, staging a robust rally to around $16 before dropping back to the $10 range. We recently witnessed the 50-day MA move above the 200-day MA, a bullish technical signal. We also see a possible basing platform around the $10 support, implying we may see a rally in the near term. Nevertheless, this stock remains highly uncertain for the long term despite the near-term positives.NIO's Missing Numbers - Puts Outlook in QuestionNIO recently reported Q2 Non-GAAP EPADS of -$0.45, missing the four-cent consensus number. Moreover, it reported revenue of $1.21B, a $60M miss, and a 14.8% YoY decrease. Q2 deliveries came in at 23,520 vehicles, a 6.1% YoY decrease. Q2 vehicle sales came in at about $991M, representing a 25% YoY decline. Vehicle margin was only 6.2%, a staggering drop from the 16.7% in the same quarter last year.NIO's Staggering $828 Million LossAdditionally, NIO's gross margin crashed to just 1% from 13% in the same quarter last year. NIO's Q2 net loss widened to more than 6 billion Yuan, equating to a staggering quarterly loss of $828 million. Unfortunately, this massive loss isn't new for the company, as NIO's TTM loss is close to $3 billion. NIO produced about $6 billion in revenues during the same time frame. Thus, the $64,000 question is, when will NIO become profitable?The answer is no time soon. Moreover, a capital raise could come shortly. Therefore, there's likely dilution in NIO's future, implying the stock could fall or stay range bound longer-term. Moreover, I wonder if NIO can effectively compete with Tesla in the long run.NIO's Massive Tesla ProblemTesla dominates China's higher-end EV segment. Tesla recorded more than 84,000 unit sales last month (August). This sales increase represents a 31% YoY surge for Tesla, bringing its YTD vehicles sold in China to about 625,000. NIO delivered 19,329 in August, bringing its YTD vehicle sales count to 94,352. However, management is guiding to sales of 15-17K in September. Therefore, we're seeing NIO's order book slowing down, and NIO needs many more sales (200-300K annually) to have a chance to be profitable. Tesla's position is so prominent in China that NIO may find it challenging to compete effectively in the long run.What Would You Buy - Tesla or NIO?NIO's popular ET5 sedan starts at about $46,100, and the price can climb into the $50-$60K range quickly once options are added. NIO's EC6 (Model Y competitor) starts at about $52,400, and the price can surge into the $60-$70K range with options. In contrast, the Model Y starts at only $41,000 in China and has (arguably) more advanced technologies and better engineering. Due to Tesla's remarkable ability to control prices, its mass-market vehicles are far more affordable than its prime competitor in China. Therefore, NIO's recent sales improvement may be temporary, and Tesla could continue taking NIO's market share as we advance. NIO can have a niche place in the EV market, but whether it can become mainstream and profitable remains to be seen. Therefore, I need more certainty as an investor here. Until then, I would rather own Tesla's stock instead.NIO: Is It Worth The Risk?NIO is an increased-risk investment because it is a Chinese company. However, NIO is even riskier because it's a highly unprofitable Chinese company. There is the added risk of unrelenting competition from Tesla and other profitable higher-end EV automakers. Moreover, some market participants have raised questions regarding NIO's accounting practices, pointing to a \"Philidor\" like entity (Wuhan Weineng) inflating NIO's revenues and profitability in recent years. Therefore, we have an additional risk of accounting irregularities with NIO. As an investor, why do I need to take such risks? To see NIO succeed? The company may grow in the long run, and its share price could go much higher in the coming years. Nevertheless, there is also an inflated risk of sideways price action and failure, which makes NIO a less attractive investment long-term. 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The transaction was valued at $3.98 million. Nvidia shares rallied 16.4% in the regular session to $785.38 on Thursday. The shares gained another 1.7% in the after-hours trading.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nvidia shares have shot up 58.6% so far this year — the gains are even more impressive over 12 months at 231.9%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Ark Invest’s decision to sell Nvidia shares captures attention, especially considering the company’s recent financial achievements and the bullish outlook provided by several analysts. Nvidia in the fourth quarter surpassed revenue expectations and provided strong guidance for the first quarter, signaling continued growth in the AI sector.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Further analysis by seven analysts echoed this sentiment, highlighting Nvidia’s sustained momentum in AI technologies.</p><p><strong>Other Key Trades:</strong></p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p><strong>Roku Inc</strong>: Ark Invest bolstered its stake in ROKU, acquiring 239,868 shares for multiple ETFs.</p></li><li><p><strong>Coinbase Global Inc</strong>: In a strategic move, Ark Invest trimmed its holdings by selling 2,828 shares, reflecting a cautious approach amidst the volatile cryptocurrency market landscape.</p></li><li><p><strong>Robinhood Markets Inc</strong>: Ark divested 37,312 shares, signaling a reassessment of its investment in the fintech space, possibly due to evolving market conditions or company-specific factors.</p></li><li><p><strong>Teladoc Inc</strong>: Ark significantly reduced its exposure by selling shares from multiple ETFs.</p></li></ul></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood's Ark Offloads Nvidia Stock Worth $4M Despite Post-Earnings Rally</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCathie Wood's Ark Offloads Nvidia Stock Worth $4M Despite Post-Earnings Rally\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Benzinga </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-02-23 14:30</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p><strong>Cathie Wood</strong>-led <strong>Ark Invest</strong> offloaded nearly $4 million worth of <strong>Nvidia Corp </strong>shares on Thursday, despite the stock’s ongoing rally fueled by robust fourth-quarter earnings and optimistic analyst forecasts.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The NVIDIA Trade</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The firm sold 5,067 Nvidia shares through <strong>ARK Next Generation Internet ETF (ARKW)</strong>. The transaction was valued at $3.98 million. Nvidia shares rallied 16.4% in the regular session to $785.38 on Thursday. The shares gained another 1.7% in the after-hours trading.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nvidia shares have shot up 58.6% so far this year — the gains are even more impressive over 12 months at 231.9%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Ark Invest’s decision to sell Nvidia shares captures attention, especially considering the company’s recent financial achievements and the bullish outlook provided by several analysts. Nvidia in the fourth quarter surpassed revenue expectations and provided strong guidance for the first quarter, signaling continued growth in the AI sector.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Further analysis by seven analysts echoed this sentiment, highlighting Nvidia’s sustained momentum in AI technologies.</p><p><strong>Other Key Trades:</strong></p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p><strong>Roku Inc</strong>: Ark Invest bolstered its stake in ROKU, acquiring 239,868 shares for multiple ETFs.</p></li><li><p><strong>Coinbase Global Inc</strong>: In a strategic move, Ark Invest trimmed its holdings by selling 2,828 shares, reflecting a cautious approach amidst the volatile cryptocurrency market landscape.</p></li><li><p><strong>Robinhood Markets Inc</strong>: Ark divested 37,312 shares, signaling a reassessment of its investment in the fintech space, possibly due to evolving market conditions or company-specific factors.</p></li><li><p><strong>Teladoc Inc</strong>: Ark significantly reduced its exposure by selling shares from multiple ETFs.</p></li></ul></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"ARKW":"ARK Next Generation Internation ETF","ROKU":"Roku Inc","TDOC":"Teladoc Health Inc.","COIN":"Coinbase Global, Inc.","HOOD":"Robinhood","NVDA":"英伟达"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1121938846","content_text":"Cathie Wood-led Ark Invest offloaded nearly $4 million worth of Nvidia Corp shares on Thursday, despite the stock’s ongoing rally fueled by robust fourth-quarter earnings and optimistic analyst forecasts.The NVIDIA TradeThe firm sold 5,067 Nvidia shares through ARK Next Generation Internet ETF (ARKW). The transaction was valued at $3.98 million. Nvidia shares rallied 16.4% in the regular session to $785.38 on Thursday. The shares gained another 1.7% in the after-hours trading.Nvidia shares have shot up 58.6% so far this year — the gains are even more impressive over 12 months at 231.9%.Ark Invest’s decision to sell Nvidia shares captures attention, especially considering the company’s recent financial achievements and the bullish outlook provided by several analysts. Nvidia in the fourth quarter surpassed revenue expectations and provided strong guidance for the first quarter, signaling continued growth in the AI sector.Further analysis by seven analysts echoed this sentiment, highlighting Nvidia’s sustained momentum in AI technologies.Other Key Trades:Roku Inc: Ark Invest bolstered its stake in ROKU, acquiring 239,868 shares for multiple ETFs.Coinbase Global Inc: In a strategic move, Ark Invest trimmed its holdings by selling 2,828 shares, reflecting a cautious approach amidst the volatile cryptocurrency market landscape.Robinhood Markets Inc: Ark divested 37,312 shares, signaling a reassessment of its investment in the fintech space, possibly due to evolving market conditions or company-specific factors.Teladoc Inc: Ark significantly reduced its exposure by selling shares from multiple ETFs.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":256,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":237413071900784,"gmtCreate":1698997892288,"gmtModify":1698997896313,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Everyone would say they sell the best durians&nbsp;to justify their absurd selling price...&nbsp;","listText":"Everyone would say they sell the best durians&nbsp;to justify their absurd selling price...&nbsp;","text":"Everyone would say they sell the best durians to justify their absurd selling price...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/237413071900784","repostId":"2380395295","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2380395295","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1698991442,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2380395295?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-03 14:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Elon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2380395295","media":"Electrek","summary":"Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.</p><p>The CEO has often commented on the potential market capitalization of Tesla.</p><p>Most famously, he said that Tesla could be worth more than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined back in October 2022.</p><p>However, Tesla’s stock is down 4% since Musk made that comment last year. The NASDAQ is up 20% over the same period:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3895f440e559e4f3ff94394efd732cef\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"472\"/></p><p>Lately, the stock has been frustrating Tesla investors with a 17% drop over just the last month.</p><p>Recently, Ron Baron, hedge fund manager and long-time Tesla investor, went on MarketWatch to reiterate his vision that Tesla would become a $4 trillion company.</p><p>He believes that Tesla will achieve that by becoming a battery company:</p><blockquote><p>“In the case of Tesla, we are convinced that people cannot do what they’re doing and that, ultimately, it’s not just going to be a car company and it’s not just going to be a battery company. All the other car companies, which 50 years ago, elected to become much more profitable and outsource supplies and compute to other people. We’re going to be like Intel was inside of computers. This is going to be Tesla inside of cars. All the cars are going to be using Tesla autonomous driving. No one else can possibly compete.”</p></blockquote><p>Musk commented on the idea that Tesla could become a $4 trillion company – agreeing, but adding that it would need to “knock the ball out of the park several times”:</p><blockquote><p>“We do need to knock the ball out of the park several times to achieve that value, but I think we can.”</p></blockquote><p>Tesla is currently valued at over $600 million.</p><h2 id=\"id_245739695\">Electrek’s Take</h2><p>$4 trillion sounds ridiculous, and it very well might be, but most people said the same thing about Tesla being worth $100 billion, and it is worth $600 billion today.</p><p>As for knocking it out of the park, Tesla has certainly done it with the Model Y. The vehicle is as big of a success as it gets.</p><p>I assume that Musk means that Tesla will have to do that again with the next-generation vehicles and Full Self-Driving.</p><p>Those are big ifs.</p></body></html>","source":"electrek_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nElon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-11-03 14:04 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://electrek.co/2023/11/02/elon-musk-thinks-tesla-tsla-4-trillion-valuation/><strong>Electrek</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.The CEO has often commented on the potential market capitalization of Tesla....</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2023/11/02/elon-musk-thinks-tesla-tsla-4-trillion-valuation/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://electrek.co/2023/11/02/elon-musk-thinks-tesla-tsla-4-trillion-valuation/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2380395295","content_text":"Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.The CEO has often commented on the potential market capitalization of Tesla.Most famously, he said that Tesla could be worth more than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined back in October 2022.However, Tesla’s stock is down 4% since Musk made that comment last year. The NASDAQ is up 20% over the same period:Lately, the stock has been frustrating Tesla investors with a 17% drop over just the last month.Recently, Ron Baron, hedge fund manager and long-time Tesla investor, went on MarketWatch to reiterate his vision that Tesla would become a $4 trillion company.He believes that Tesla will achieve that by becoming a battery company:“In the case of Tesla, we are convinced that people cannot do what they’re doing and that, ultimately, it’s not just going to be a car company and it’s not just going to be a battery company. All the other car companies, which 50 years ago, elected to become much more profitable and outsource supplies and compute to other people. We’re going to be like Intel was inside of computers. This is going to be Tesla inside of cars. All the cars are going to be using Tesla autonomous driving. No one else can possibly compete.”Musk commented on the idea that Tesla could become a $4 trillion company – agreeing, but adding that it would need to “knock the ball out of the park several times”:“We do need to knock the ball out of the park several times to achieve that value, but I think we can.”Tesla is currently valued at over $600 million.Electrek’s Take$4 trillion sounds ridiculous, and it very well might be, but most people said the same thing about Tesla being worth $100 billion, and it is worth $600 billion today.As for knocking it out of the park, Tesla has certainly done it with the Model Y. The vehicle is as big of a success as it gets.I assume that Musk means that Tesla will have to do that again with the next-generation vehicles and Full Self-Driving.Those are big ifs.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":70,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":234275047379168,"gmtCreate":1698204892503,"gmtModify":1698204897902,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I will consider when it's down another 20-30% 👍","listText":"I will consider when it's down another 20-30% 👍","text":"I will consider when it's down another 20-30% 👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/234275047379168","repostId":"2377038797","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2377038797","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1698204600,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2377038797?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-10-25 11:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock: Upgrading To Buy, Negatives Priced In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2377038797","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"We’re upgrading Tesla, Inc. stock to a buy.Tesla stock is down 15% over the past week, underperforming the S&P 500 by 10%.We now think our previous concerns regarding Tesla’s financial underperformanc","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>We’re upgrading Tesla, Inc. stock to a buy.</p></li><li><p>Tesla stock is down 15% over the past week, underperforming the S&amp;P 500 by 10%.</p></li><li><p>We now think our previous concerns regarding Tesla’s financial underperformance amid macro weakness and price cuts are priced into the stock for the most part.</p></li><li><p>While we remain cautious about the EV industry in the near term, we see delivery growth reaccelerating toward 2024 for Tesla with more aggressive pricing supported by cost reductions.</p></li><li><p>We now believe the company is better positioned to outperform the Wall Street consensus of 2.3M vehicles in 2024.</p></li></ul><p>We&#39;re upgrading <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla, Inc.</a> to a buy after a long bearish stance. We now think our previous concerns regarding Tesla&#39;s financial performance amid macro weakness and price cuts are factored into the stock for the most part. Tesla&#39;s stock is down ~15% over the past week, underperforming the S&amp;P 500 (SP500) by 10%; over the past three months, the stock is down roughly 18%, underperforming the S&amp;P 500 by around 11%. We remain more cautious about the auto industry in 2H23 due to the auto correction, macro weakness, and end demand weakness from China - the largest car market with a lot of market power over electric vehicles (&#34;EVs&#34;).</p><p>To understand the significance of the slower-than-expected recovery in China, it must be noted that China&#39;s EV sales &#34;share is currently double the global average.&#34; We understand investor concern over the company&#39;s exposure to weakness in China at ~23% of total sales. We&#39;re more optimistic now because we think the demand weakness has been priced into the stock at current levels. We think Tesla is better positioned than the competition, including NIO Inc. (NIO), Ford (F), and General Motors (GM), to recover delivery growth toward 2024. We now see a more attractive risk-reward profile for the stock into 2024 after aggressive pricing supported by cost reductions.</p><p>The following graph outlines Tesla&#39;s stock performance over the past three months against the S&amp;P 500.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/28cc5634e8cfb7b8244babef1d08b84f\" alt=\"YCharts\" title=\"YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\"/><span>YCharts</span></p><h3 id=\"id_2703470193\">Negatives Priced In; Better Horizon Ahead</h3><p>Our upgrade is partially driven by how negative Musk was on the Q3 2023 earnings call; the stock dropped over 12% after the call due to investor disappointment in the challenges to volume production with the Cybertruck and the longer outlook for positive cash flow for the vehicle coupled with persisting macro weakness and contracting margins. Musk noted:</p><blockquote><p>&#34;I&#39;m worried about the high-interest rate environment we&#39;re in... If interest rates remain high or if they go even higher, it&#39;s that much harder for people to buy the car.&#34;</p></blockquote><p>We continue to be cautious of the auto industry in the near term, as we think a correction is underway and see it reflected in the analog and power management industry on the semi-front. Our upgrade is driven by our belief that Tesla&#39;s economic moat and position in the EV industry will enable it to outperform the peer group into 2024.</p><p>We think our negative thesis of Tesla struggling to achieve financial outperformance played out and expect stabilization towards 2H24. This was the first quarter since July 2019 that Tesla missed on both top and bottom lines; the company reported revenue of $23.35B, missing by $790M, and Non-GAAP EPS of $0.66, missing by $0.07. Our forecast of shrinking margins has also been unfolding, with the company reporting an operating margin of 7.6% this quarter. The following graph outlines Tesla&#39;s vehicle deliveries, operating cash flow, and net income up to 3Q23.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b4fa307c13837d38f7b71b0017ae351a\" alt=\"3Q23 earning presentation\" title=\"3Q23 earning presentation\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"491\"/><span>3Q23 earning presentation</span></p><p>We already anticipated mixed results after the lower production and delivery numbers resulting from the factory upgrades. The market is now factoring in the negatives of the gradual positive free cash flow from Cybertruck, no hot updates on RoboTaxi and A.I., and the growing R&amp;D expense. We believe Tesla is now better positioned to outperform Wall Street&#39;s consensus of 2.3M vehicles in 2024 and remains on track to hit the target of 1.8M this year. Additionally, we think the model upgrades will help push the deliveries higher. We think the company is now better positioned to achieve a surprise upside into 2024.</p><h3 id=\"id_1440374357\">Valuation</h3><p>Tesla stock is trading above the peer group average, but we think the higher multiple is justified due to the company&#39;s position in the EV market versus the peer group. On a P/E basis, the stock is trading at 66.8x C2023 EPS $3.18 compared to the peer group average of 22.0x. The stock is trading at 6.7x EV/C2023 Sales versus the peer group average of 2.8x.</p><p>The following chart outlines Tesla&#39;s valuation against the peer group average.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/687623db0808bc0f3485301c72906519\" alt=\"TSP\" title=\"TSP\" tg-width=\"975\" tg-height=\"339\"/><span>TSP</span></p><h3 id=\"id_3697642859\">Word on Wall Street</h3><p>Wall Street is more bearish on the stock. Of the 46 analysts covering the stock, 18 are buy-rated, 21 are hold-rated, and the remaining are sell-rated. We think the more mixed sentiment on the stock now is due to increased competition threatening Tesla&#39;s EV share and macro weakness.</p><p>The stock is currently priced at $212 per share. The median sell-side price target is $250, while the mean is $229, with a potential 8-18% upside.</p><p>The following charts outline sell-side ratings and price targets for TSLA</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2d820f3db30be115a6fb3a74bda7405a\" alt=\"TSP\" title=\"TSP\" tg-width=\"566\" tg-height=\"283\"/><span>TSP</span></p><h3 id=\"id_1689567193\">What to do with the stock</h3><p>We&#39;re upgrading Tesla, Inc. stock to a buy. We see attractive entry points into the stock after the near-term negatives have been priced in. We expect delivery growth to reaccelerate towards 2024 and think cost reductions will help improve profitable growth into 2025. We think Tesla is better positioned now to outperform both expectations and the peer group in 2024.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock: Upgrading To Buy, Negatives Priced In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock: Upgrading To Buy, Negatives Priced In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-10-25 11:30 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4642888-tesla-stock-upgrading-to-buy-negatives-priced-in><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>We’re upgrading Tesla, Inc. stock to a buy.Tesla stock is down 15% over the past week, underperforming the S&P 500 by 10%.We now think our previous concerns regarding Tesla’s financial ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4642888-tesla-stock-upgrading-to-buy-negatives-priced-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4642888-tesla-stock-upgrading-to-buy-negatives-priced-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2377038797","content_text":"We’re upgrading Tesla, Inc. stock to a buy.Tesla stock is down 15% over the past week, underperforming the S&P 500 by 10%.We now think our previous concerns regarding Tesla’s financial underperformance amid macro weakness and price cuts are priced into the stock for the most part.While we remain cautious about the EV industry in the near term, we see delivery growth reaccelerating toward 2024 for Tesla with more aggressive pricing supported by cost reductions.We now believe the company is better positioned to outperform the Wall Street consensus of 2.3M vehicles in 2024.We're upgrading Tesla, Inc. to a buy after a long bearish stance. We now think our previous concerns regarding Tesla's financial performance amid macro weakness and price cuts are factored into the stock for the most part. Tesla's stock is down ~15% over the past week, underperforming the S&P 500 (SP500) by 10%; over the past three months, the stock is down roughly 18%, underperforming the S&P 500 by around 11%. We remain more cautious about the auto industry in 2H23 due to the auto correction, macro weakness, and end demand weakness from China - the largest car market with a lot of market power over electric vehicles (\"EVs\").To understand the significance of the slower-than-expected recovery in China, it must be noted that China's EV sales \"share is currently double the global average.\" We understand investor concern over the company's exposure to weakness in China at ~23% of total sales. We're more optimistic now because we think the demand weakness has been priced into the stock at current levels. We think Tesla is better positioned than the competition, including NIO Inc. (NIO), Ford (F), and General Motors (GM), to recover delivery growth toward 2024. We now see a more attractive risk-reward profile for the stock into 2024 after aggressive pricing supported by cost reductions.The following graph outlines Tesla's stock performance over the past three months against the S&P 500.YChartsNegatives Priced In; Better Horizon AheadOur upgrade is partially driven by how negative Musk was on the Q3 2023 earnings call; the stock dropped over 12% after the call due to investor disappointment in the challenges to volume production with the Cybertruck and the longer outlook for positive cash flow for the vehicle coupled with persisting macro weakness and contracting margins. Musk noted:\"I'm worried about the high-interest rate environment we're in... If interest rates remain high or if they go even higher, it's that much harder for people to buy the car.\"We continue to be cautious of the auto industry in the near term, as we think a correction is underway and see it reflected in the analog and power management industry on the semi-front. Our upgrade is driven by our belief that Tesla's economic moat and position in the EV industry will enable it to outperform the peer group into 2024.We think our negative thesis of Tesla struggling to achieve financial outperformance played out and expect stabilization towards 2H24. This was the first quarter since July 2019 that Tesla missed on both top and bottom lines; the company reported revenue of $23.35B, missing by $790M, and Non-GAAP EPS of $0.66, missing by $0.07. Our forecast of shrinking margins has also been unfolding, with the company reporting an operating margin of 7.6% this quarter. The following graph outlines Tesla's vehicle deliveries, operating cash flow, and net income up to 3Q23.3Q23 earning presentationWe already anticipated mixed results after the lower production and delivery numbers resulting from the factory upgrades. The market is now factoring in the negatives of the gradual positive free cash flow from Cybertruck, no hot updates on RoboTaxi and A.I., and the growing R&D expense. We believe Tesla is now better positioned to outperform Wall Street's consensus of 2.3M vehicles in 2024 and remains on track to hit the target of 1.8M this year. Additionally, we think the model upgrades will help push the deliveries higher. We think the company is now better positioned to achieve a surprise upside into 2024.ValuationTesla stock is trading above the peer group average, but we think the higher multiple is justified due to the company's position in the EV market versus the peer group. On a P/E basis, the stock is trading at 66.8x C2023 EPS $3.18 compared to the peer group average of 22.0x. The stock is trading at 6.7x EV/C2023 Sales versus the peer group average of 2.8x.The following chart outlines Tesla's valuation against the peer group average.TSPWord on Wall StreetWall Street is more bearish on the stock. Of the 46 analysts covering the stock, 18 are buy-rated, 21 are hold-rated, and the remaining are sell-rated. We think the more mixed sentiment on the stock now is due to increased competition threatening Tesla's EV share and macro weakness.The stock is currently priced at $212 per share. The median sell-side price target is $250, while the mean is $229, with a potential 8-18% upside.The following charts outline sell-side ratings and price targets for TSLATSPWhat to do with the stockWe're upgrading Tesla, Inc. stock to a buy. We see attractive entry points into the stock after the near-term negatives have been priced in. We expect delivery growth to reaccelerate towards 2024 and think cost reductions will help improve profitable growth into 2025. We think Tesla is better positioned now to outperform both expectations and the peer group in 2024.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":67,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":272057743761656,"gmtCreate":1707458141711,"gmtModify":1707458145559,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"😜&nbsp;","listText":"😜&nbsp;","text":"😜","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/272057743761656","repostId":"2409679704","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2409679704","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1707454836,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2409679704?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-02-09 13:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"3 Reasons Why It's Time to Hit the Brakes on NIO Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2409679704","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"According to my Nio stock forecast, a very competitive market will likely see Nio's reach diminish as EV demand weathers a storm in 2024.","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Nio</strong> happens to be a smaller player in a hypercompetitive market.</p></li><li><p>The EV maker’s deliveries only grew by 30% in 2023 and have already begun 2024 on the wrong foot.</p></li><li><p>Larger players like BYD will not only take market share away from NIO but are better equipped to handle a potential EV winter.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8f283dcf01ba7103e8690f23edfaaf8f\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"432\"/></p><p>Source: Michael Vi / Shutterstock.com</p><p>As the company continues to falter, it’s time to reevaluate any bullish <strong>Nio</strong> stock forecast. The Chinese EV market has become very competitive. So much so that it may be hard for Nio to compete in the future.</p><p>Below are three reasons why I believe NIO is a sell.</p><h2 id=\"id_1040734839\">Nio Stock Forecast: Look at the Competition</h2><p>NIO is playing in a hypercompetitive space, and the company will need to grab market share from both smaller competitors like Xpeng and massive ones like BYD, the world’s top EV maker in 2023.</p><p>In Q4 2023, BYD sold 526,409 electric vehicles, while Tesla sold 484,507. Moreover, BYD also dethroned Volkswagen as the number one selling car brand in China.</p><p>It’s difficult to see how NIO will be able to tackle the market when much of the performance and sales is being generated by the largest major players.</p><h2 id=\"id_1460695596\">Unimpressive Deliveries</h2><p>The Chinese EV maker, NIO, has also experienced sluggish delivery growth in respective to its competitors. EV deliveries in 2023 came in at 160,038, up only 30% on a year-over-year basis. BYD, for example, saw a 62% surge in full year EV deliveries.</p><p>XPeng also saw EV deliveries only climb 17% of the number from 2022, underscoring how difficult it is for smaller players to compete in the space.</p><p>Not to mention, China is still going through an economic recovery, and folks are feeling risk averse in terms of spending. This will affect all EV makers operating in China, but it will likely impact the smaller, lesser-known players the most. Nio saw January deliveries plunge 44% from December, which already isn’t a good sign for the year.</p><h2 id=\"id_1317553230\">The EV Slump Could Smart</h2><p>There has been much talk about the electric vehicle slump. It’s not just a phenomenon particular to China’s economic slowdown. Inflation and high interest rates in the West have done well to temper consumer sentiment.</p><p>Analysts are predicting EV sales to struggle in 2024. Elon Musk, warned of slower growth in 2024 during Tesla’s earnings call.</p><p>As said before, NIO will likely struggle if these larger players begin to see growth slowdown. At some point, the EV market will be dominated by just a few key players, and I doubt NIO will be one of them.</p></body></html>","source":"investorplace_stock_picks","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>3 Reasons Why It's Time to Hit the Brakes on NIO Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n3 Reasons Why It's Time to Hit the Brakes on NIO Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-02-09 13:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2024/02/3-reasons-why-its-time-to-hit-the-brakes-on-nio-stock/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Nio happens to be a smaller player in a hypercompetitive market.The EV maker’s deliveries only grew by 30% in 2023 and have already begun 2024 on the wrong foot.Larger players like BYD will not only ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2024/02/3-reasons-why-its-time-to-hit-the-brakes-on-nio-stock/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","BK4531":"中概回港概念","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","LU0708995583.HKD":"TEMPLETON CHINA \"A\" (HKD) ACC","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4509":"腾讯概念","09866":"蔚来-SW","BK4526":"热门中概股","BK4588":"碎股","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","BK4581":"高盛持仓","NIO":"蔚来","BK4504":"桥水持仓","BK4099":"汽车制造商","LU0052750758.USD":"富兰克林中国基金A Acc","NIO.SI":"蔚来","LU0320764599.SGD":"FTIF - Templeton China A Acc SGD","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2024/02/3-reasons-why-its-time-to-hit-the-brakes-on-nio-stock/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2409679704","content_text":"Nio happens to be a smaller player in a hypercompetitive market.The EV maker’s deliveries only grew by 30% in 2023 and have already begun 2024 on the wrong foot.Larger players like BYD will not only take market share away from NIO but are better equipped to handle a potential EV winter.Source: Michael Vi / Shutterstock.comAs the company continues to falter, it’s time to reevaluate any bullish Nio stock forecast. The Chinese EV market has become very competitive. So much so that it may be hard for Nio to compete in the future.Below are three reasons why I believe NIO is a sell.Nio Stock Forecast: Look at the CompetitionNIO is playing in a hypercompetitive space, and the company will need to grab market share from both smaller competitors like Xpeng and massive ones like BYD, the world’s top EV maker in 2023.In Q4 2023, BYD sold 526,409 electric vehicles, while Tesla sold 484,507. Moreover, BYD also dethroned Volkswagen as the number one selling car brand in China.It’s difficult to see how NIO will be able to tackle the market when much of the performance and sales is being generated by the largest major players.Unimpressive DeliveriesThe Chinese EV maker, NIO, has also experienced sluggish delivery growth in respective to its competitors. EV deliveries in 2023 came in at 160,038, up only 30% on a year-over-year basis. BYD, for example, saw a 62% surge in full year EV deliveries.XPeng also saw EV deliveries only climb 17% of the number from 2022, underscoring how difficult it is for smaller players to compete in the space.Not to mention, China is still going through an economic recovery, and folks are feeling risk averse in terms of spending. This will affect all EV makers operating in China, but it will likely impact the smaller, lesser-known players the most. Nio saw January deliveries plunge 44% from December, which already isn’t a good sign for the year.The EV Slump Could SmartThere has been much talk about the electric vehicle slump. It’s not just a phenomenon particular to China’s economic slowdown. Inflation and high interest rates in the West have done well to temper consumer sentiment.Analysts are predicting EV sales to struggle in 2024. Elon Musk, warned of slower growth in 2024 during Tesla’s earnings call.As said before, NIO will likely struggle if these larger players begin to see growth slowdown. At some point, the EV market will be dominated by just a few key players, and I doubt NIO will be one of them.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":143,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9970330699,"gmtCreate":1683898102712,"gmtModify":1683898107127,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Goog","listText":"Goog","text":"Goog","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":15,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970330699","repostId":"1199366607","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1199366607","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1683894458,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1199366607?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-12 20:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1199366607","media":"Techstory","summary":"In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with div","content":"<html><head></head><body><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aa7193bb27f6978e976de34598d2f8bc\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"512\"/></p><p>In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, BabyAGI, and other open-source and proprietary AIs are some of the examples available in the market.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The AI systems mentioned have exhibited remarkable intelligence and capabilities that were once considered exclusive to human cognition. The usage of large language models in stock market analysis and forecast has been in discussions since the beginning of this AI trend.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A finance professor at the University of Florida, Alejandro Lopez-Lira, conducted a recent study revealing that large language models, such as ChatGPT, can be highly valuable in predicting stock prices. In fact, ChatGPT achieved a remarkable 500% return in one investing model, surpassing conventional sentiment analysis models that are commonly utilized by hedge funds.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Lopez-Lira utilized ChatGPT to analyze news headlines to determine whether they were favorable or unfavorable for a stock. The study discovered that ChatGPT’s forecasting ability to predict the direction of the next day’s returns was considerably better than random chance.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/04e8bb1da54048e266875913c4d3f190\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"800\" tg-height=\"533\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The experiment conducted by Alejandro Lopez-Lira highlights the potential of state-of-the-art artificial intelligence. The findings suggest that larger computational resources and improved datasets, such as those used to develop ChatGPT, can give rise to “emergent abilities” or capabilities that were not originally intended during the AI model’s development.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This implies that the potential applications of these AI models could be much broader and more diverse than previously imagined, with possible implications for industries beyond finance.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Lopez-Lira stated that ChatGPT’s ability to comprehend information intended for humans makes it highly likely that there will be return predictability, even if the market does not react in an ideal manner.</p><h3 style=\"text-align: start;\">METHOD OF STUDY AND FINDINGS</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers used a customized prompt to ask ChatGPT to assume the role of a financial expert with experience in stock recommendations and evaluate the impact of a given news headline on a company’s stock price in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">ChatGPT was asked to answer “YES” if the news is good for the stock price, “NO” if it is bad, or “UNKNOWN” if it is uncertain. The researchers then transformed ChatGPT’s recommendation into a score and run linear regressions of the next day’s returns on the ChatGPT score to test its predictive power.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The prompt was specifically designed for financial analysis and asked ChatGPT to evaluate a given news headline and its potential impact on a company’s stock price in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers assumed that the headline contains sufficient information for an expert in the financial industry to assess its impact on the stock price reasonably. ChatGPT was then asked to explain its answer concisely in one sentence. The authors set a temperature of 0 to maximize the reproducibility of the results.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The study shows that ChatGPT can provide recommendations for news headlines that are predictive of the next day’s stock returns. The ChatGPT score has a statistically significant relationship with the next day’s returns, indicating that the model can generate emergent abilities for financial analysis tasks.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The researchers compared ChatGPT’s results to the sentiment score provided by a news curating company and found out that ChatGPT’s score is more predictive of the next day’s returns.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/192320358bbcbaf611cfb1188e72eccb\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"2320\" tg-height=\"1346\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The study’s conclusion asserts that ChatGPT exhibits superior performance compared to traditional sentiment analysis techniques provided by a prominent vendor.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The research findings highlight the potential of large language models in financial economics and contribute to the expanding collection of literature on the applications of artificial intelligence and natural language processing in this field.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In an interview with CNBC, Lopez-Lira stated that hedge funds had contacted him to gain further insights into his research. He also expressed his belief that ChatGPT’s capacity to anticipate stock price fluctuations might diminish in the future as more institutions begin to incorporate this technology.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1638775714613","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>ChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nChatGPT Algorithm Shatters Expectations With 500% Return On Stock Investments\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-05-12 20:27 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/><strong>Techstory</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"MSFT":"微软","GOOG":"谷歌"},"source_url":"https://techstory.in/chatgpt-algorithm-shatters-expectations-with-500-return-on-stock-investments/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1199366607","content_text":"In recent months, there has been an introduction of various artificial intelligence systems with diverse capabilities and capacities. OpenAI’s ChatGPT 3.5 and GPT-4, Google Bard, Bing, AutoGPT, BabyAGI, and other open-source and proprietary AIs are some of the examples available in the market.The AI systems mentioned have exhibited remarkable intelligence and capabilities that were once considered exclusive to human cognition. The usage of large language models in stock market analysis and forecast has been in discussions since the beginning of this AI trend.A finance professor at the University of Florida, Alejandro Lopez-Lira, conducted a recent study revealing that large language models, such as ChatGPT, can be highly valuable in predicting stock prices. In fact, ChatGPT achieved a remarkable 500% return in one investing model, surpassing conventional sentiment analysis models that are commonly utilized by hedge funds.Lopez-Lira utilized ChatGPT to analyze news headlines to determine whether they were favorable or unfavorable for a stock. The study discovered that ChatGPT’s forecasting ability to predict the direction of the next day’s returns was considerably better than random chance.The experiment conducted by Alejandro Lopez-Lira highlights the potential of state-of-the-art artificial intelligence. The findings suggest that larger computational resources and improved datasets, such as those used to develop ChatGPT, can give rise to “emergent abilities” or capabilities that were not originally intended during the AI model’s development.This implies that the potential applications of these AI models could be much broader and more diverse than previously imagined, with possible implications for industries beyond finance.Lopez-Lira stated that ChatGPT’s ability to comprehend information intended for humans makes it highly likely that there will be return predictability, even if the market does not react in an ideal manner.METHOD OF STUDY AND FINDINGSThe researchers used a customized prompt to ask ChatGPT to assume the role of a financial expert with experience in stock recommendations and evaluate the impact of a given news headline on a company’s stock price in the short term.ChatGPT was asked to answer “YES” if the news is good for the stock price, “NO” if it is bad, or “UNKNOWN” if it is uncertain. The researchers then transformed ChatGPT’s recommendation into a score and run linear regressions of the next day’s returns on the ChatGPT score to test its predictive power.The prompt was specifically designed for financial analysis and asked ChatGPT to evaluate a given news headline and its potential impact on a company’s stock price in the short term.The researchers assumed that the headline contains sufficient information for an expert in the financial industry to assess its impact on the stock price reasonably. ChatGPT was then asked to explain its answer concisely in one sentence. The authors set a temperature of 0 to maximize the reproducibility of the results.The study shows that ChatGPT can provide recommendations for news headlines that are predictive of the next day’s stock returns. The ChatGPT score has a statistically significant relationship with the next day’s returns, indicating that the model can generate emergent abilities for financial analysis tasks.The researchers compared ChatGPT’s results to the sentiment score provided by a news curating company and found out that ChatGPT’s score is more predictive of the next day’s returns.The study’s conclusion asserts that ChatGPT exhibits superior performance compared to traditional sentiment analysis techniques provided by a prominent vendor.The research findings highlight the potential of large language models in financial economics and contribute to the expanding collection of literature on the applications of artificial intelligence and natural language processing in this field.In an interview with CNBC, Lopez-Lira stated that hedge funds had contacted him to gain further insights into his research. He also expressed his belief that ChatGPT’s capacity to anticipate stock price fluctuations might diminish in the future as more institutions begin to incorporate this technology.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":72,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9948662725,"gmtCreate":1680700817668,"gmtModify":1680702895895,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Indeed one should&nbsp;accumulate citi&nbsp;now even though the fools didn't state&nbsp;the fair value, target pricesetc...","listText":"Indeed one should&nbsp;accumulate citi&nbsp;now even though the fools didn't state&nbsp;the fair value, target pricesetc...","text":"Indeed one should accumulate citi now even though the fools didn't state the fair value, target pricesetc...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":13,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9948662725","repostId":"2324872612","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2324872612","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1680708426,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2324872612?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-04-05 23:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"2 Warren Buffett Stocks That Look Like Bargains Now","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2324872612","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"A long bear market pushed these stocks down to what looks like bargain pricing.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>After living through a bear market for more than a year, opportunistic investors know some bargain stocks are out there just waiting to be found. Unfortunately, there isn&#39;t any surefire way to tell apart those destined to climb higher from those that will underperform.</p><p>For more than five decades, paying attention to the stocks Warren Buffett and his lieutenants buy for <strong>Berkshire Hathaway</strong>&#39;s (NYSE: BRK.A) (NYSE: BRK.B) equity portfolio has been a winning strategy for generating long-term gains. Shares of the holding company have risen at a rate of 19.6% annually since Buffett took the helm in 1965.</p><p>The recent implosion of Silicon Valley Bank (a subsidiary of <strong>SVB Financial</strong>) and <strong>Signature Bank</strong> caused banking stocks to fall across the board in March. Now, shares of <strong>Ally Financial</strong> and <strong>Citigroup</strong> are trading at bargain prices that are too good to ignore.</p><h2>Ally Financial</h2><p>Buffett famously loves banks because he knows people will always need a safe place to put their money. One bank that caught his eye last year was Ally Financial. This is an all-digital bank charging into the future, but it isn&#39;t an uncertain start-up. Ally began as the financial arm of <strong>General Motors</strong> more than a century ago.</p><p>At recent prices, the stock offers a 4.7% yield, and it could climb much higher. A lean, all-digital operating model allowed Ally Financial to raise its dividend payout by a whopping 131% over the past five years.</p><p>Despite rapidly cranking up its quarterly payout, Ally needed less than 15% of the free cash flow it generated last year to meet its commitment. That means there&#39;s plenty of room for new dividend raises even if earnings dip in response to an economic slowdown.</p><p>So far, Ally is weathering the storm. Fourth-quarter consumer auto originations fell about 16% year over year to $9.2 billion. Before reading too much into this decline, though, it&#39;s important to remember that stimulus checks caused auto sales to spike in 2021.</p><p>A recession could limit new loan originations, but each loan Ally originates now is earning significantly more. The estimated yield on new auto loans rose 2.6% year over year to 9.57% in the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p>Last year, Ally Financial reported a healthy 14.4% return on equity. Despite impressive earnings power, it&#39;s trading for the low price of just 0.8 times its tangible book value. Buying the stock at this bargain valuation gives you a great chance to realize market-beating gains over the long run.</p><h2>Citigroup</h2><p>If you think Ally&#39;s trading at a low valuation for a bank stock, just wait until you hear about Citigroup. The stock sold off last month even though it&#39;s a &#34;too big to fail&#34; bank that&#39;s subject to strict capital requirements. Those capital requirements are designed to prevent the sort of bank runs that felled SVB Financial and Signature Bank.</p><p>Now you can buy shares of this systemically important bank for less than 0.6 times its tangible book value. Citigroup&#39;s trading at a low valuation because it&#39;s in the middle of a long transition following years of underperformance. In a nutshell, it&#39;s selling off its international consumer banking operations to streamline operations and focus on profits.</p><p>In the fourth quarter of 2022, Citigroup raised its tier 1 capital ratio to 13%, which is more than enough to satisfy regulators. Most systemically important banks distribute capital that exceeds regulatory requirements, but this bank is behaving extra-cautiously.</p><p>Citigroup is holding off on buybacks and dividend raises while it&#39;s in the middle of uncertain asset sales. Investors want to keep a close eye on the potential sale of its consumer bank in Mexico, Banco Nacional de México (Citibanamex), in a deal valued between $6 billion and $8 billion.</p><p>Completing the complicated Citibanamex sale could unleash a torrent of share buybacks. Adding some shares to your portfolio now looks like a reasonably safe way to generate market-beating returns over the long run.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>2 Warren Buffett Stocks That Look Like Bargains Now</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n2 Warren Buffett Stocks That Look Like Bargains Now\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-04-05 23:27 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/04/3-warren-buffett-stocks-look-like-bargains-now/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>After living through a bear market for more than a year, opportunistic investors know some bargain stocks are out there just waiting to be found. Unfortunately, there isn't any surefire way to tell ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/04/3-warren-buffett-stocks-look-like-bargains-now/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"C":"花旗","ALLY":"Ally Financial Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/04/3-warren-buffett-stocks-look-like-bargains-now/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2324872612","content_text":"After living through a bear market for more than a year, opportunistic investors know some bargain stocks are out there just waiting to be found. Unfortunately, there isn't any surefire way to tell apart those destined to climb higher from those that will underperform.For more than five decades, paying attention to the stocks Warren Buffett and his lieutenants buy for Berkshire Hathaway's (NYSE: BRK.A) (NYSE: BRK.B) equity portfolio has been a winning strategy for generating long-term gains. Shares of the holding company have risen at a rate of 19.6% annually since Buffett took the helm in 1965.The recent implosion of Silicon Valley Bank (a subsidiary of SVB Financial) and Signature Bank caused banking stocks to fall across the board in March. Now, shares of Ally Financial and Citigroup are trading at bargain prices that are too good to ignore.Ally FinancialBuffett famously loves banks because he knows people will always need a safe place to put their money. One bank that caught his eye last year was Ally Financial. This is an all-digital bank charging into the future, but it isn't an uncertain start-up. Ally began as the financial arm of General Motors more than a century ago.At recent prices, the stock offers a 4.7% yield, and it could climb much higher. A lean, all-digital operating model allowed Ally Financial to raise its dividend payout by a whopping 131% over the past five years.Despite rapidly cranking up its quarterly payout, Ally needed less than 15% of the free cash flow it generated last year to meet its commitment. That means there's plenty of room for new dividend raises even if earnings dip in response to an economic slowdown.So far, Ally is weathering the storm. Fourth-quarter consumer auto originations fell about 16% year over year to $9.2 billion. Before reading too much into this decline, though, it's important to remember that stimulus checks caused auto sales to spike in 2021.A recession could limit new loan originations, but each loan Ally originates now is earning significantly more. The estimated yield on new auto loans rose 2.6% year over year to 9.57% in the fourth quarter of 2022.Last year, Ally Financial reported a healthy 14.4% return on equity. Despite impressive earnings power, it's trading for the low price of just 0.8 times its tangible book value. Buying the stock at this bargain valuation gives you a great chance to realize market-beating gains over the long run.CitigroupIf you think Ally's trading at a low valuation for a bank stock, just wait until you hear about Citigroup. The stock sold off last month even though it's a \"too big to fail\" bank that's subject to strict capital requirements. Those capital requirements are designed to prevent the sort of bank runs that felled SVB Financial and Signature Bank.Now you can buy shares of this systemically important bank for less than 0.6 times its tangible book value. Citigroup's trading at a low valuation because it's in the middle of a long transition following years of underperformance. In a nutshell, it's selling off its international consumer banking operations to streamline operations and focus on profits.In the fourth quarter of 2022, Citigroup raised its tier 1 capital ratio to 13%, which is more than enough to satisfy regulators. Most systemically important banks distribute capital that exceeds regulatory requirements, but this bank is behaving extra-cautiously.Citigroup is holding off on buybacks and dividend raises while it's in the middle of uncertain asset sales. Investors want to keep a close eye on the potential sale of its consumer bank in Mexico, Banco Nacional de México (Citibanamex), in a deal valued between $6 billion and $8 billion.Completing the complicated Citibanamex sale could unleash a torrent of share buybacks. Adding some shares to your portfolio now looks like a reasonably safe way to generate market-beating returns over the long run.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":100,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184117370093712,"gmtCreate":1685974374479,"gmtModify":1685974378781,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Have been buying... 👍","listText":"Have been buying... 👍","text":"Have been buying... 👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":11,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/184117370093712","repostId":"2341040026","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2341040026","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1685969325,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2341040026?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-05 20:48","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba Stock: A Screaming Buy At <9x P/FCF","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2341040026","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryAfter yet another post-ER drop, Alibaba's stock is now as cheap as it was back at the October","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Summary</h2><ul><li><p>After yet another post-ER drop, Alibaba&#39;s stock is now as cheap as it was back at the October 2022 lows based on its P/FCF multiple of ~8-9x.</p></li><li><p>With China&#39;s economic re-opening not going according to plan so far, Chinese government is expected to provide further economic stimulus in the near future.</p></li><li><p>Despite sluggish sales growth, Alibaba&#39;s business trends are improving rapidly, with TTM free cash flow rebounding back up to $25B+ in Q4 FY2023.</p></li><li><p>In this note, we shall briefly review Alibaba&#39;s Q4 FY2023 report, determine its fair value &amp; expected returns, analyze its technical chart, and discuss its quant factor grades.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ea61a419989cf20092ca7908a6f7f93\" alt=\"Andrew Burton\" title=\"Andrew Burton\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Andrew Burton</span></p><h2>Introduction</h2><p>Towards the fag end of last week, Alibaba Group Holding Limited (NYSE:BABA) stock caught a bid and jumped up ~6% in the last couple of trading sessions on the back of news/rumor of a fresh economic stimulus from the Chinese government.</p><p>As you may know, China&#39;s economic re-opening has failed to live up to investor expectations so far. With economic growth recovery looking sluggish, the surge in Chinese equities off of October lows has reversed to a great extent in recent months. Despite reporting solid financial results for Q4 FY2023, Alibaba&#39;s trading multiple has dropped back down to ~8-9x P/FCF (~6-7x EV/FCF), levels last seen in October 2022.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e4884666e9b97e7d41a0642c25e733dd\" alt=\"Data by YCharts\" title=\"Data by YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p>While BABA is well off of its recent lows, the stock is just as cheap as it was back at those lows in October 2022. At ~$85 per share, Alibaba currently has a market capitalization of about $218B. If we back out BABA&#39;s net cash position of $58B, we get to an enterprise value of $160B for Alibaba. Considering Alibaba&#39;s TTM free cash flow of ~$25B (figure quoted from Alibaba&#39;s Q4 FY2023 financial report), BABA is trading at a depressed EV/FCF multiple of ~6-7x and a P/FCF multiple of ~8-9x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5905d3d37193c8bd7eebfba8b7badc4f\" alt=\"Data by YCharts\" title=\"Data by YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"478\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p>In recent quarters, we have noted positive trends across multiple business segments within Alibaba, and the Chinese tech giant looks all set to re-accelerate revenue growth in the near future. More importantly, Alibaba&#39;s free cash flow generation has rebounded spectacularly over the last year or so, and its stock is still dirt cheap due to overblown fears around the Chinese economy and geopolitical tensions with the US. Furthermore, management is using Alibaba&#39;s free cash flows to fund aggressive stock buybacks, and given BABA&#39;s depressed valuations, I think Alibaba&#39;s capital return program has the potential to generate massive shareholder returns over the next few years.</p><p>In this note, we will take a look at Alibaba&#39;s pre-earnings estimates and actual performance in Q4 FY2023. Additionally, we will discuss key business metrics for BABA and review its valuation, technicals, and quant factor grades to see if it is a good buy at current levels.</p><h2>What Were Alibaba&#39;s Expected Earnings? Did It Beat Earnings?</h2><p>Going into Q4 FY2023 (March 2023) earnings report, Alibaba was projected to record revenues and Normalized EPS of $30.1B and $1.36, respectively. According to Seeking Alpha and several other financial news sites, BABA missed the top line and beat the bottom line estimates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1ec691e519f2216e27a3a233d223df7b\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"263\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>However, Alibaba&#39;s earnings release pegged Q4 FY2023 revenue at $30.31B, which would imply a beat on both top and bottom-line estimates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/55b0242903dd921999b7cbe5b621c6c5\" alt=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Release\" title=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Release\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"535\"/><span>Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Release</span></p><p>Now, the discrepancy in these numbers is a direct result of different sites using different currency conversion ratios. To avoid any confusion, investors could simply look at Alibaba&#39;s figures in the local currency, i.e., RMB. As you can see above, Alibaba&#39;s revenue was up 2% y/y to RMB 208.2B (not down 2% y/y, as shown by the USD figures on SA).</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4a724a94bd23ba96b6c40892fba81919\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"544\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>While Alibaba&#39;s business continues to struggle for growth in a tough macroeconomic environment, (local currency) revenue growth returning to positive territory in Q3 FY2023 and staying in positive territory in Q4 FY2023 (after several quarters of negative growth rates) marks a vital shift in business trends at Alibaba. Now, let&#39;s dig a little deeper into Alibaba&#39;s quarterly results.</p><h2>BABA Stock Key Metrics</h2><p>In Q4 FY2023, Alibaba&#39;s consolidated revenues grew by a meager +2% y/y in constant currency, with robust growth in International Commerce (+29% y/y), Local Consumer Services (+17% y/y), and Cainiao (+18% y/y) getting offset by weakness in China commerce (-3% y/y) and Cloud (-2% y/y) businesses.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d537a50f3922fad1b517a72a1a9306b4\" alt=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation\" title=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"256\"/><span>Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation</span></p><p>Now, I understand that Alibaba&#39;s current sales growth is uninspiring; however, BABA&#39;s management is making tremendous progress on the margin (profitability) front by optimizing costs across their business. In Q4 FY2023, BABA&#39;s adj. EBITA margin improved by 400 bps to 12% from a year-ago period. And this margin improvement, in combination with positive sales growth, is driving Alibaba&#39;s free cash flows higher.</p><p>In Q4 FY2023, Alibaba produced $4.7B in free cash flow. And Alibaba&#39;s TTM FCF now stands at ~$25B. With cash flows rebounding rapidly, Alibaba&#39;s management is performing aggressive stock buybacks (~$1.84B in Q4 FY2023) and improving its fortress-like balance sheet, with net cash balance rising to $58B by the end of Q4 FY2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a01a685b3b52f93cc91c30a3d5297b3\" alt=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation\" title=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"185\"/><span>Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/faee0d30cc657cb7b6ca7c19d6eb7f52\" alt=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation\" title=\"Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"179\"/><span>Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings Presentation</span></p><p>During recent earnings conference calls, Alibaba&#39;s leadership has highlighted its efforts to unlock shareholder value, and this talk has been followed up via actions such as aggressive stock repurchases, cost optimizations, and business re-organization into several independent units.</p><p>Here are some key remarks from the Q4 FY2023 earnings release:</p><blockquote>In an increasingly complex world, we have proactively transformed our organization to strengthen the competitiveness of our businesses through greater independence to address the evolving needs of different customers and capture new opportunities. <strong>We are taking concrete steps towards unlocking value from our businesses</strong> and are pleased to announce that our board has approved a full spin-off of the Cloud Intelligence Group via a stock dividend distribution to shareholders, with intention for it to become an independent publicly listed company. - Daniel Zhang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Alibaba Group We have established a capital management committee at the Alibaba board level to undertake a comprehensive capital management plan to enhance shareholder value. <strong>Alibaba is committed to improving shareholders return through the implementation of a robust capital allocation framework.</strong> We are delighted to share that our board has approved the process to start external financing for Alibaba International Digital Commerce Business Group; exploration of IPO for Cainiao Smart Logistics Group; and execution of IPO for Freshippo. - Toby Xu, Chief Financial Officer of Alibaba Group</blockquote><p>Clearly, Alibaba&#39;s management remains committed to its promise of unlocking shareholder value. On the back of an economic re-opening [after the end of draconian zero-COVID policies] and fresh monetary stimulus from PBOC, China&#39;s economic growth is projected to recover in coming quarters, with the International Monetary Fund projecting China&#39;s GDP growth to reach +5.2% in 2023. As the macroeconomic backdrop improves in China, Alibaba&#39;s improving business trends could get even better in the near future.</p><p>According to consensus analyst estimates, Alibaba is set to record $133.5B in revenue over the next twelve months (FY2024) and then deliver high-single-digit revenue growth in FY2025 and FY2026.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ffe64c06f5035a76fb32d08acde328cc\" alt=\"Alibaba Revenue Estimates (SeekingAlpha)\" title=\"Alibaba Revenue Estimates (SeekingAlpha)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"193\"/><span>Alibaba Revenue Estimates (SeekingAlpha)</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b452542dbc6e1b01c66910062884bdbd\" alt=\"Alibaba Earnings Estimates (SeekingAlpha)\" title=\"Alibaba Earnings Estimates (SeekingAlpha)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"193\"/><span>Alibaba Earnings Estimates (SeekingAlpha)</span></p><p>As I see it, Alibaba is a fundamentally-sound business that is set to be a massive beneficiary from China&#39;s economic re-opening and any fresh stimulus from the government!</p><h2>What To Expect After Earnings?</h2><p>Before last week&#39;s bounce, Alibaba&#39;s stock had declined by ~15% in the aftermath of its Q4 FY2023 earnings release in pre-market hours on 18th May 2023. This latest post-ER sell-off saw BABA test a key support level at $77-78 in recent trading sessions. As you can see, Alibaba stock held this level and bounced up ~6% in the last couple of trading sessions.</p><p>Now, if the stock manages to break out of the descending triangle [marked in purple on the chart below] to the upside (&gt;$90), I see Alibaba stock rallying up to the $120 level (top end of its Stage-I base formation) in quick order. Furthermore, an upside breakout above $120 would represent a qualified &#34;Inverse Head &amp; Shoulders&#34; pattern, and the price objective for this formation is roughly $180.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9327476fe7137cf114e2d290401c893c\" alt=\"Alibaba Stock Chart (6/2/2023) (WeBull Desktop)\" title=\"Alibaba Stock Chart (6/2/2023) (WeBull Desktop)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"462\"/><span>Alibaba Stock Chart (6/2/2023) (WeBull Desktop)</span></p><p>On the flip side, if Alibaba&#39;s stock reverses again and fails to hold the $77-78 level, the stock will likely break down back to the lower end of its Stage-I base at ~$70.</p><p>In my view, the near to medium-term risk/reward based on technicals is skewed to the upside, and the setup is highly favorable for investors/traders looking to go long BABA at current levels.</p><p>Now, let&#39;s take a look at Alibaba&#39;s quant factor grades.</p><p>Since my last update (three months ago), BABA&#39;s Quant Rating score has improved from 3.45/5 to 4.67/5. This improvement has been driven by a positive upgrade in &#34;Momentum&#34; [C to C+] and &#34;Growth&#34; [D to C], partially offset by a negative downgrade in &#34;Revisions&#34; [B+ to C+].</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad6295d53e0f8b813bf388645a612bca\" alt=\"Alibaba Quant Factor Grades (SeekingAlpha)\" title=\"Alibaba Quant Factor Grades (SeekingAlpha)\" tg-width=\"357\" tg-height=\"487\"/><span>Alibaba Quant Factor Grades (SeekingAlpha)</span></p><p>Over three months, Alibaba&#39;s &#34;Profitability&#34; and &#34;Valuation&#34; quant factor grades have held up at &#34;A+&#34; and &#34;C+&#34;, respectively. While I agree with most of these grades, I think BABA&#39;s valuation is very attractive, and this grade could easily climb up to an &#34;A&#34; or &#34;A+&#34; in upcoming quarters.</p><p>As of writing, Alibaba is a &#34;Strong Buy&#34; based on SA&#39;s Quant Rating System. Furthermore, Seeking Alpha and Wall Street analysts are in agreement with my bullish outlook for Alibaba.</p><h2>Concluding Thoughts: Is BABA Stock A Buy, Sell, or Hold?</h2><p>After yet another post-ER pullback, Alibaba&#39;s stock is sitting at a key support level. While Alibaba is struggling to find revenue growth amid economic doldrums in China, BABA&#39;s management has made several shareholder-friendly moves in recent months, including cost optimization efforts across the business (improving profitability and cash flow generation), enhancement of Alibaba&#39;s capital return program, and business reorganization (breakup into six different units announced in Q1). In my view, all of these moves are set to power a recovery in Alibaba&#39;s stock over the coming 12-18 months, with the stock currently trading at a depressed EV/FCF multiple of just ~6-7x.</p><p><strong>Here are my fair value and expected return estimates for Alibaba:</strong></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7d7c1fd91b3c674156cab34af6d3b967\" alt=\"TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)\" title=\"TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"574\"/><span>TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)</span></p><p>As you can see above, Alibaba is worth ~$178.5 per share or $462B, i.e., it is currently undervalued by more than ~50%.</p><p>Assuming a conservative exit multiple of ~15x P/FCF (a &#34;China&#34; discount is embedded into this assumption), Alibaba&#39;s stock could be trading at ~$430 five years from now (by 2028). This price target implies a 5-yr CAGR return of ~38.6% from current levels.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b7b75465f4c112f50221dbaf37af58c\" alt=\"TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)\" title=\"TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"321\"/><span>TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)</span></p><p>Considering the asymmetric risk/reward on offer, I continue to view Alibaba as an incredible investment opportunity! Today, investing in Chinese equities is probably riskier than in most other foreign markets due to heightened geopolitical tensions with the US and economic problems within China. However, in Alibaba, investors are being handsomely compensated for taking on this risk. At ~8-9x P/FCF (~6-7x EV/FCF), Alibaba is a no-brainer buy.</p><p><strong>Key Takeaway:</strong> I rate Alibaba a &#34;Strong Buy&#34; in the $80s.</p><p>Editor&#39;s Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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With economic growth recovery looking sluggish, the surge in Chinese equities off of October lows has reversed to a great extent in recent months. Despite reporting solid financial results for Q4 FY2023, Alibaba's trading multiple has dropped back down to ~8-9x P/FCF (~6-7x EV/FCF), levels last seen in October 2022.Data by YChartsWhile BABA is well off of its recent lows, the stock is just as cheap as it was back at those lows in October 2022. At ~$85 per share, Alibaba currently has a market capitalization of about $218B. If we back out BABA's net cash position of $58B, we get to an enterprise value of $160B for Alibaba. Considering Alibaba's TTM free cash flow of ~$25B (figure quoted from Alibaba's Q4 FY2023 financial report), BABA is trading at a depressed EV/FCF multiple of ~6-7x and a P/FCF multiple of ~8-9x.Data by YChartsIn recent quarters, we have noted positive trends across multiple business segments within Alibaba, and the Chinese tech giant looks all set to re-accelerate revenue growth in the near future. More importantly, Alibaba's free cash flow generation has rebounded spectacularly over the last year or so, and its stock is still dirt cheap due to overblown fears around the Chinese economy and geopolitical tensions with the US. Furthermore, management is using Alibaba's free cash flows to fund aggressive stock buybacks, and given BABA's depressed valuations, I think Alibaba's capital return program has the potential to generate massive shareholder returns over the next few years.In this note, we will take a look at Alibaba's pre-earnings estimates and actual performance in Q4 FY2023. Additionally, we will discuss key business metrics for BABA and review its valuation, technicals, and quant factor grades to see if it is a good buy at current levels.What Were Alibaba's Expected Earnings? Did It Beat Earnings?Going into Q4 FY2023 (March 2023) earnings report, Alibaba was projected to record revenues and Normalized EPS of $30.1B and $1.36, respectively. According to Seeking Alpha and several other financial news sites, BABA missed the top line and beat the bottom line estimates.Seeking AlphaHowever, Alibaba's earnings release pegged Q4 FY2023 revenue at $30.31B, which would imply a beat on both top and bottom-line estimates.Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings ReleaseNow, the discrepancy in these numbers is a direct result of different sites using different currency conversion ratios. To avoid any confusion, investors could simply look at Alibaba's figures in the local currency, i.e., RMB. As you can see above, Alibaba's revenue was up 2% y/y to RMB 208.2B (not down 2% y/y, as shown by the USD figures on SA).Seeking AlphaWhile Alibaba's business continues to struggle for growth in a tough macroeconomic environment, (local currency) revenue growth returning to positive territory in Q3 FY2023 and staying in positive territory in Q4 FY2023 (after several quarters of negative growth rates) marks a vital shift in business trends at Alibaba. Now, let's dig a little deeper into Alibaba's quarterly results.BABA Stock Key MetricsIn Q4 FY2023, Alibaba's consolidated revenues grew by a meager +2% y/y in constant currency, with robust growth in International Commerce (+29% y/y), Local Consumer Services (+17% y/y), and Cainiao (+18% y/y) getting offset by weakness in China commerce (-3% y/y) and Cloud (-2% y/y) businesses.Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings PresentationNow, I understand that Alibaba's current sales growth is uninspiring; however, BABA's management is making tremendous progress on the margin (profitability) front by optimizing costs across their business. In Q4 FY2023, BABA's adj. EBITA margin improved by 400 bps to 12% from a year-ago period. And this margin improvement, in combination with positive sales growth, is driving Alibaba's free cash flows higher.In Q4 FY2023, Alibaba produced $4.7B in free cash flow. And Alibaba's TTM FCF now stands at ~$25B. With cash flows rebounding rapidly, Alibaba's management is performing aggressive stock buybacks (~$1.84B in Q4 FY2023) and improving its fortress-like balance sheet, with net cash balance rising to $58B by the end of Q4 FY2023.Alibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings PresentationAlibaba Q4 FY2023 Earnings PresentationDuring recent earnings conference calls, Alibaba's leadership has highlighted its efforts to unlock shareholder value, and this talk has been followed up via actions such as aggressive stock repurchases, cost optimizations, and business re-organization into several independent units.Here are some key remarks from the Q4 FY2023 earnings release:In an increasingly complex world, we have proactively transformed our organization to strengthen the competitiveness of our businesses through greater independence to address the evolving needs of different customers and capture new opportunities. We are taking concrete steps towards unlocking value from our businesses and are pleased to announce that our board has approved a full spin-off of the Cloud Intelligence Group via a stock dividend distribution to shareholders, with intention for it to become an independent publicly listed company. - Daniel Zhang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Alibaba Group We have established a capital management committee at the Alibaba board level to undertake a comprehensive capital management plan to enhance shareholder value. Alibaba is committed to improving shareholders return through the implementation of a robust capital allocation framework. We are delighted to share that our board has approved the process to start external financing for Alibaba International Digital Commerce Business Group; exploration of IPO for Cainiao Smart Logistics Group; and execution of IPO for Freshippo. - Toby Xu, Chief Financial Officer of Alibaba GroupClearly, Alibaba's management remains committed to its promise of unlocking shareholder value. On the back of an economic re-opening [after the end of draconian zero-COVID policies] and fresh monetary stimulus from PBOC, China's economic growth is projected to recover in coming quarters, with the International Monetary Fund projecting China's GDP growth to reach +5.2% in 2023. As the macroeconomic backdrop improves in China, Alibaba's improving business trends could get even better in the near future.According to consensus analyst estimates, Alibaba is set to record $133.5B in revenue over the next twelve months (FY2024) and then deliver high-single-digit revenue growth in FY2025 and FY2026.Alibaba Revenue Estimates (SeekingAlpha)Alibaba Earnings Estimates (SeekingAlpha)As I see it, Alibaba is a fundamentally-sound business that is set to be a massive beneficiary from China's economic re-opening and any fresh stimulus from the government!What To Expect After Earnings?Before last week's bounce, Alibaba's stock had declined by ~15% in the aftermath of its Q4 FY2023 earnings release in pre-market hours on 18th May 2023. This latest post-ER sell-off saw BABA test a key support level at $77-78 in recent trading sessions. As you can see, Alibaba stock held this level and bounced up ~6% in the last couple of trading sessions.Now, if the stock manages to break out of the descending triangle [marked in purple on the chart below] to the upside (>$90), I see Alibaba stock rallying up to the $120 level (top end of its Stage-I base formation) in quick order. Furthermore, an upside breakout above $120 would represent a qualified \"Inverse Head & Shoulders\" pattern, and the price objective for this formation is roughly $180.Alibaba Stock Chart (6/2/2023) (WeBull Desktop)On the flip side, if Alibaba's stock reverses again and fails to hold the $77-78 level, the stock will likely break down back to the lower end of its Stage-I base at ~$70.In my view, the near to medium-term risk/reward based on technicals is skewed to the upside, and the setup is highly favorable for investors/traders looking to go long BABA at current levels.Now, let's take a look at Alibaba's quant factor grades.Since my last update (three months ago), BABA's Quant Rating score has improved from 3.45/5 to 4.67/5. This improvement has been driven by a positive upgrade in \"Momentum\" [C to C+] and \"Growth\" [D to C], partially offset by a negative downgrade in \"Revisions\" [B+ to C+].Alibaba Quant Factor Grades (SeekingAlpha)Over three months, Alibaba's \"Profitability\" and \"Valuation\" quant factor grades have held up at \"A+\" and \"C+\", respectively. While I agree with most of these grades, I think BABA's valuation is very attractive, and this grade could easily climb up to an \"A\" or \"A+\" in upcoming quarters.As of writing, Alibaba is a \"Strong Buy\" based on SA's Quant Rating System. Furthermore, Seeking Alpha and Wall Street analysts are in agreement with my bullish outlook for Alibaba.Concluding Thoughts: Is BABA Stock A Buy, Sell, or Hold?After yet another post-ER pullback, Alibaba's stock is sitting at a key support level. While Alibaba is struggling to find revenue growth amid economic doldrums in China, BABA's management has made several shareholder-friendly moves in recent months, including cost optimization efforts across the business (improving profitability and cash flow generation), enhancement of Alibaba's capital return program, and business reorganization (breakup into six different units announced in Q1). In my view, all of these moves are set to power a recovery in Alibaba's stock over the coming 12-18 months, with the stock currently trading at a depressed EV/FCF multiple of just ~6-7x.Here are my fair value and expected return estimates for Alibaba:TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)As you can see above, Alibaba is worth ~$178.5 per share or $462B, i.e., it is currently undervalued by more than ~50%.Assuming a conservative exit multiple of ~15x P/FCF (a \"China\" discount is embedded into this assumption), Alibaba's stock could be trading at ~$430 five years from now (by 2028). This price target implies a 5-yr CAGR return of ~38.6% from current levels.TQI Valuation Model (TQIG.org)Considering the asymmetric risk/reward on offer, I continue to view Alibaba as an incredible investment opportunity! Today, investing in Chinese equities is probably riskier than in most other foreign markets due to heightened geopolitical tensions with the US and economic problems within China. However, in Alibaba, investors are being handsomely compensated for taking on this risk. At ~8-9x P/FCF (~6-7x EV/FCF), Alibaba is a no-brainer buy.Key Takeaway: I rate Alibaba a \"Strong Buy\" in the $80s.Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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Multi-year, we see DLTR returning to a double-digit EPS “compounder” with top- and bottom-line drivers in place at the core DT banner (with DT Plus roll-out incremental) and stabilization at the Family Dollar concept.”</blockquote><h2>JPMorgan downgrades Silvergate to underweight from neutral</h2><p>JPMorgan said in its downgrade of the crypto bank that it sees too much “downside risk” for shares of Silvergate.</p><blockquote>“Downgrade to UW; Further Downside Risk with the Ability to Continue as a Going Concern Now Cited.”</blockquote><h2>Bank of America reiterates Lowe’s as buy</h2><p>Bank of America said it’s standing by shares of the home improvement retailer after its earnings report on Wednesday.</p><blockquote>“The concept of Lowe’s ‘closing the gap’ in its same-store sales growth and operating margin with that of Home Depot is another key element of the investment thesis.”</blockquote><h2>Morgan Stanley upgrades Pinduoduo to overweight from equal weight</h2><p>Morgan Stanley said the ag-tech company is a “long-term growth story.”</p><blockquote>“PDD benefits from the long-term consumption trend given its ‘low price’ user mind-share, and its expansion of branded product coverage supports above-industry growth, making it a structural growth stock in China e-commerce.”</blockquote><h2>Citi adds a positive catalyst watch on Lockheed Martin</h2><p>Citi opened a positive catalyst watch on the stock and says it’s beneficiary of the defense budget in Congress.</p><blockquote>“We open a 90-day catalyst watch on our Buy-rated defense names, including GD, LDOS, LMT and SAIC, ahead of the introduction of the FY24 budget later this month and the beginning of both committee mark-ups on spending bills in Congress and Debt Ceiling negotiations between House Republicans and the Biden Administration.”</blockquote><h2>Goldman Sachs reiterates Tesla as buy</h2><p>Goldman said Tesla’s investor day on Wednesday should give shareholders even more confidence in the automaker’s strategy.</p><blockquote>“The bottom line is that we believe the event should increase investor confidence inTesla’sability to reduce costs by ~50% with its next generation platform, given the breadth and depth of Tesla’s team and how its vertically integrated model allows it to optimize on both cost and performance criteria.”</blockquote><h2>Raymond James resumes Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices as strong buy</h2><p>Raymond James resumed coverage ofNvidiaand said it’s a leader in the race to AI. The firm also saidAMDis an “underappreciated” AI play.</p><blockquote>“Nvidia Corporation is the undisputed leader in AI/ML and arguably has the best autonomous driving solutions. ... .Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. is an underappreciated play on AI/ML, in our view.”</blockquote><h2>Barclays initiates Carlyle Group and KKR as overweight</h2><p>Barclays said KKR is an “attractive” long-term growth story. The firm also initiated Carlyle group and says it’s “undervalued.”</p><blockquote>“We initiate coverage of CG (PT $41) and KKR (PT $69), both at Overweight. CG has been a challenged story, but we see it as undervalued and think the ongoing mix shift away from PE can help valuation over time. KKR we see as an attractive long-term grower with ample scaling opportunities and lower near-term fundraising risk.”</blockquote><h2>Goldman Sachs reiterates Salesforce as buy</h2><p>Goldman said it’s standing by shares of Salesforce after the company’s earnings report on Wednesday.</p><blockquote>“F4Q23 should change the narrative towards the path to profitable growth and reinforce our belief (articulated last week) that CRM is at an inflection point that can vault it into the upper echelons of highly valued tech companies.”</blockquote><h2>Jefferies reiterates Apple as buy</h2><p>Jefferies said its survey checks show limited impact from economic uncertainty.</p><blockquote>“Our analysis of web traffic globally indicates that Apple is seeing a limited impact from macro-related pressure through January.”</blockquote><h2>TD Cowen upgrades Okta to outperform from market perform</h2><p>TD Cowen said in its upgrade of the stock that stability has been “restored.”</p><blockquote>“We are upgrading OKTA to Outperform raising our PT to $100 from $70. Our upgrade is based on: 1) Strong FQ4 results and improved FY24 guidance; 2) Focus shifting to profitable growth as FY24 operating &amp; FCF margin should dramatically expand on the heels of prior &amp; expected disciplined cost mgmt.”</blockquote><h2>Citi reiterates Disney as buy</h2><p>Citi said in a note to clients that Disney could sell its stake in Hulu.</p><blockquote>“We believe Disney may sell its 67% stake in Hulu. In parallel, we suspect Disney may secure the distribution rights to two Marvel characters held by Comcast (Hulk and Namor).”</blockquote><h2>Morgan Stanley reiterates Liberty Formula One as overweight</h2><p>Morgan Stanley said it’s bullish on shares of the auto racing company.</p><blockquote>“We believe F1 is the fastest growing global sport and that growth is expected to drive 10-15% adjusted EBITDA CAGR from 2022 to 2026.”</blockquote><h2>Morgan Stanley reiterates Tesla as overweight</h2><p>Morgan Stanley said competitors can’t keep up after Tesla’s investor day on Wednesday.</p><blockquote>“In a race to the bottom, we seriously question how the competition can keep up.”</blockquote><h2>Needham upgrades Salesforce to buy from hold</h2><p>Needham said after several years on the sideline that investors should buy the stock now.</p><blockquote>“Six years on the sidelines is a long time in our universe but here we are, upgradingCRMto Buy as we believe its FY24 profitability guidance better aligns its cost structure with its intermediate term growth outlook.”</blockquote></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Multi-year, we see DLTR returning to a double-digit EPS “compounder” with top- and bottom-line drivers in place at the core DT banner (with DT Plus roll-out incremental) and stabilization at the Family Dollar concept.”</blockquote><h2>JPMorgan downgrades Silvergate to underweight from neutral</h2><p>JPMorgan said in its downgrade of the crypto bank that it sees too much “downside risk” for shares of Silvergate.</p><blockquote>“Downgrade to UW; Further Downside Risk with the Ability to Continue as a Going Concern Now Cited.”</blockquote><h2>Bank of America reiterates Lowe’s as buy</h2><p>Bank of America said it’s standing by shares of the home improvement retailer after its earnings report on Wednesday.</p><blockquote>“The concept of Lowe’s ‘closing the gap’ in its same-store sales growth and operating margin with that of Home Depot is another key element of the investment thesis.”</blockquote><h2>Morgan Stanley upgrades Pinduoduo to overweight from equal weight</h2><p>Morgan Stanley said the ag-tech company is a “long-term growth story.”</p><blockquote>“PDD benefits from the long-term consumption trend given its ‘low price’ user mind-share, and its expansion of branded product coverage supports above-industry growth, making it a structural growth stock in China e-commerce.”</blockquote><h2>Citi adds a positive catalyst watch on Lockheed Martin</h2><p>Citi opened a positive catalyst watch on the stock and says it’s beneficiary of the defense budget in Congress.</p><blockquote>“We open a 90-day catalyst watch on our Buy-rated defense names, including GD, LDOS, LMT and SAIC, ahead of the introduction of the FY24 budget later this month and the beginning of both committee mark-ups on spending bills in Congress and Debt Ceiling negotiations between House Republicans and the Biden Administration.”</blockquote><h2>Goldman Sachs reiterates Tesla as buy</h2><p>Goldman said Tesla’s investor day on Wednesday should give shareholders even more confidence in the automaker’s strategy.</p><blockquote>“The bottom line is that we believe the event should increase investor confidence inTesla’sability to reduce costs by ~50% with its next generation platform, given the breadth and depth of Tesla’s team and how its vertically integrated model allows it to optimize on both cost and performance criteria.”</blockquote><h2>Raymond James resumes Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices as strong buy</h2><p>Raymond James resumed coverage ofNvidiaand said it’s a leader in the race to AI. The firm also saidAMDis an “underappreciated” AI play.</p><blockquote>“Nvidia Corporation is the undisputed leader in AI/ML and arguably has the best autonomous driving solutions. ... .Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. is an underappreciated play on AI/ML, in our view.”</blockquote><h2>Barclays initiates Carlyle Group and KKR as overweight</h2><p>Barclays said KKR is an “attractive” long-term growth story. The firm also initiated Carlyle group and says it’s “undervalued.”</p><blockquote>“We initiate coverage of CG (PT $41) and KKR (PT $69), both at Overweight. CG has been a challenged story, but we see it as undervalued and think the ongoing mix shift away from PE can help valuation over time. KKR we see as an attractive long-term grower with ample scaling opportunities and lower near-term fundraising risk.”</blockquote><h2>Goldman Sachs reiterates Salesforce as buy</h2><p>Goldman said it’s standing by shares of Salesforce after the company’s earnings report on Wednesday.</p><blockquote>“F4Q23 should change the narrative towards the path to profitable growth and reinforce our belief (articulated last week) that CRM is at an inflection point that can vault it into the upper echelons of highly valued tech companies.”</blockquote><h2>Jefferies reiterates Apple as buy</h2><p>Jefferies said its survey checks show limited impact from economic uncertainty.</p><blockquote>“Our analysis of web traffic globally indicates that Apple is seeing a limited impact from macro-related pressure through January.”</blockquote><h2>TD Cowen upgrades Okta to outperform from market perform</h2><p>TD Cowen said in its upgrade of the stock that stability has been “restored.”</p><blockquote>“We are upgrading OKTA to Outperform raising our PT to $100 from $70. Our upgrade is based on: 1) Strong FQ4 results and improved FY24 guidance; 2) Focus shifting to profitable growth as FY24 operating &amp; FCF margin should dramatically expand on the heels of prior &amp; expected disciplined cost mgmt.”</blockquote><h2>Citi reiterates Disney as buy</h2><p>Citi said in a note to clients that Disney could sell its stake in Hulu.</p><blockquote>“We believe Disney may sell its 67% stake in Hulu. In parallel, we suspect Disney may secure the distribution rights to two Marvel characters held by Comcast (Hulk and Namor).”</blockquote><h2>Morgan Stanley reiterates Liberty Formula One as overweight</h2><p>Morgan Stanley said it’s bullish on shares of the auto racing company.</p><blockquote>“We believe F1 is the fastest growing global sport and that growth is expected to drive 10-15% adjusted EBITDA CAGR from 2022 to 2026.”</blockquote><h2>Morgan Stanley reiterates Tesla as overweight</h2><p>Morgan Stanley said competitors can’t keep up after Tesla’s investor day on Wednesday.</p><blockquote>“In a race to the bottom, we seriously question how the competition can keep up.”</blockquote><h2>Needham upgrades Salesforce to buy from hold</h2><p>Needham said after several years on the sideline that investors should buy the stock now.</p><blockquote>“Six years on the sidelines is a long time in our universe but here we are, upgradingCRMto Buy as we believe its FY24 profitability guidance better aligns its cost structure with its intermediate term growth outlook.”</blockquote></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"MRNA":"Moderna, Inc.","DLTR":"美元树公司","CG":"凯雷","NVDA":"英伟达","AMD":"美国超微公司","MSFT":"微软","LMT":"洛克希德马丁","AAPL":"苹果","TSLA":"特斯拉","GETR":"Getaround","CRM":"赛富时","DIS":"迪士尼","OKTA":"Okta Inc.","FWONK":"Liberty Media Corporation Series C","PDD":"拼多多","KKR":"KKR & Co L.P.","NIO":"蔚来","LOW":"劳氏"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1189584083","content_text":"Here are Thursday’s biggest calls on Wall Street:Credit Suisse names Microsoft a top pickCredit Suisse said Microsoft is a key beneficiary of AI.“Within US Software, MSFT is our Top Pick and we are adding it to the CS Top Pick List following an extensive assessment of MSFT’s potential paths of monetization.”Roth MKM initiates Getaround as buyRoth initiated the car sharing company and said it’s “a digital platform for the mass population of idle vehicles.”“With vehicles idly parked approximately 95% of the time, GETR’s 100% digital, frictionless car-sharing technology platform serves as a springboard capable of maximizing utilization of approximately 1.2B legacy cars.”RBC initiates Moderna as outperformRBC said in its initiation of Moderna that it’s a “cancer vaccine believer.”“We think COVID cliff and its near-term impact to the P&L is well appreciated given $5b guided 2023 revenue floor, CDC numbers framing how volume is evolving and price, new variants and compliance offering potential upside.”JPMorgan downgrades Nio to neutral from overweightJPMorgan said it sees too many challenges after Nio’s earnings report on Wednesday.“We believe the stock will likely trade sideways in the near term and we would reassess a potential inflection point in mid-late 2Q23, depending on the magnitude of sequential volume and margin improvement where we are directionally positive yet cautious given street expectations are too high, which leaves surprise bias more to the downside than upside, in our view.”JPMorgan downgrades Dollar Tree to neutral from overweightJPMorgan said it sees too many macro headwinds for the discount retailer.“We downgrade DLTR to Neutral. Multi-year, we see DLTR returning to a double-digit EPS “compounder” with top- and bottom-line drivers in place at the core DT banner (with DT Plus roll-out incremental) and stabilization at the Family Dollar concept.”JPMorgan downgrades Silvergate to underweight from neutralJPMorgan said in its downgrade of the crypto bank that it sees too much “downside risk” for shares of Silvergate.“Downgrade to UW; Further Downside Risk with the Ability to Continue as a Going Concern Now Cited.”Bank of America reiterates Lowe’s as buyBank of America said it’s standing by shares of the home improvement retailer after its earnings report on Wednesday.“The concept of Lowe’s ‘closing the gap’ in its same-store sales growth and operating margin with that of Home Depot is another key element of the investment thesis.”Morgan Stanley upgrades Pinduoduo to overweight from equal weightMorgan Stanley said the ag-tech company is a “long-term growth story.”“PDD benefits from the long-term consumption trend given its ‘low price’ user mind-share, and its expansion of branded product coverage supports above-industry growth, making it a structural growth stock in China e-commerce.”Citi adds a positive catalyst watch on Lockheed MartinCiti opened a positive catalyst watch on the stock and says it’s beneficiary of the defense budget in Congress.“We open a 90-day catalyst watch on our Buy-rated defense names, including GD, LDOS, LMT and SAIC, ahead of the introduction of the FY24 budget later this month and the beginning of both committee mark-ups on spending bills in Congress and Debt Ceiling negotiations between House Republicans and the Biden Administration.”Goldman Sachs reiterates Tesla as buyGoldman said Tesla’s investor day on Wednesday should give shareholders even more confidence in the automaker’s strategy.“The bottom line is that we believe the event should increase investor confidence inTesla’sability to reduce costs by ~50% with its next generation platform, given the breadth and depth of Tesla’s team and how its vertically integrated model allows it to optimize on both cost and performance criteria.”Raymond James resumes Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices as strong buyRaymond James resumed coverage ofNvidiaand said it’s a leader in the race to AI. The firm also saidAMDis an “underappreciated” AI play.“Nvidia Corporation is the undisputed leader in AI/ML and arguably has the best autonomous driving solutions. ... .Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. is an underappreciated play on AI/ML, in our view.”Barclays initiates Carlyle Group and KKR as overweightBarclays said KKR is an “attractive” long-term growth story. The firm also initiated Carlyle group and says it’s “undervalued.”“We initiate coverage of CG (PT $41) and KKR (PT $69), both at Overweight. CG has been a challenged story, but we see it as undervalued and think the ongoing mix shift away from PE can help valuation over time. KKR we see as an attractive long-term grower with ample scaling opportunities and lower near-term fundraising risk.”Goldman Sachs reiterates Salesforce as buyGoldman said it’s standing by shares of Salesforce after the company’s earnings report on Wednesday.“F4Q23 should change the narrative towards the path to profitable growth and reinforce our belief (articulated last week) that CRM is at an inflection point that can vault it into the upper echelons of highly valued tech companies.”Jefferies reiterates Apple as buyJefferies said its survey checks show limited impact from economic uncertainty.“Our analysis of web traffic globally indicates that Apple is seeing a limited impact from macro-related pressure through January.”TD Cowen upgrades Okta to outperform from market performTD Cowen said in its upgrade of the stock that stability has been “restored.”“We are upgrading OKTA to Outperform raising our PT to $100 from $70. Our upgrade is based on: 1) Strong FQ4 results and improved FY24 guidance; 2) Focus shifting to profitable growth as FY24 operating & FCF margin should dramatically expand on the heels of prior & expected disciplined cost mgmt.”Citi reiterates Disney as buyCiti said in a note to clients that Disney could sell its stake in Hulu.“We believe Disney may sell its 67% stake in Hulu. In parallel, we suspect Disney may secure the distribution rights to two Marvel characters held by Comcast (Hulk and Namor).”Morgan Stanley reiterates Liberty Formula One as overweightMorgan Stanley said it’s bullish on shares of the auto racing company.“We believe F1 is the fastest growing global sport and that growth is expected to drive 10-15% adjusted EBITDA CAGR from 2022 to 2026.”Morgan Stanley reiterates Tesla as overweightMorgan Stanley said competitors can’t keep up after Tesla’s investor day on Wednesday.“In a race to the bottom, we seriously question how the competition can keep up.”Needham upgrades Salesforce to buy from holdNeedham said after several years on the sideline that investors should buy the stock now.“Six years on the sidelines is a long time in our universe but here we are, upgradingCRMto Buy as we believe its FY24 profitability guidance better aligns its cost structure with its intermediate term growth outlook.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":107,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":302659087118552,"gmtCreate":1714910893630,"gmtModify":1714910897707,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Because just a few weeks ago he said NIO is a gone case... now that NIO is recovering back, he got to say something to justify... another just say without any concrete data to back... what a load of crap!!","listText":"Because just a few weeks ago he said NIO is a gone case... now that NIO is recovering back, he got to say something to justify... another just say without any concrete data to back... what a load of crap!!","text":"Because just a few weeks ago he said NIO is a gone case... now that NIO is recovering back, he got to say something to justify... another just say without any concrete data to back... what a load of crap!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/302659087118552","repostId":"2432792199","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2432792199","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1714907013,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2432792199?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-05-05 19:03","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Stock Outlook: Why Investors Should Tread Carefully Despite Impressive Delivery Numbers","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2432792199","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"The Chinese EV sector has been ravaged over the past year, and NIO stock hasn't been immune to this drawdown, but there are catalysts here.","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Shares of Chinese EV maker <strong>Nio </strong>(<strong>NIO</strong>) stock are skyrocketing after the company reported strong deliveries numbers.</p></li><li><p>This has some investors repositioning their portfolios toward this company, and its peers, in the Chinese EV market.</p></li><li><p>Despite obstacles, a bullish thesis is forming for these names.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e84a47955c29fe10adb6f613742afccc\" alt=\"Source: Robert Way / Shutterstock.com\" title=\"Source: Robert Way / Shutterstock.com\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"432\"/><span>Source: Robert Way / Shutterstock.com</span></p><p><strong>Nio</strong> stock has been a high-flyer in recent days, soaring more than 11% as investors priced in tail winds from excellent delivery growth in April. The Chinese EV company outperformed other EV manufacturers, with 15,620 deliveries. Delivery numbers increased by 134.6% YoY and 31.64% from March. </p><p>The EV company has again shown resilience, but is the stock worth investors’ attention and confidence? Let’s dive in.</p><h2 id=\"id_155875984\">Excellent Delivery Growth</h2><p>Nio currently offers eight car models, including five SUVs and three sedans. The most recently announced ET9 sedan will start its deliveries in Q1 2025.</p><p>From January to April, Nio has delivered over 45,000 vehicles, showing a 21.15% increase year-over-year. Moreover, as of April, Nio reached 495,267 units delivered since its launch, nearing its goal of 500,000 units to be delivered. </p><p>NIO stock has continued to outperform in recent sessions, outpacing the moves seen in the <strong>S&amp;P 500</strong> and <strong>Nasdaq</strong>.</p><p>Compared to competitors, Nio is performing well, and its recent deliveries growth acceleration speaks to a potential bifurcation building among certain. Chinese EV names.</p><h2 id=\"id_1461406715\">Ongoing Trials on Solid-State Batteries</h2><p>Aside from strong deliveries numbers, Nio’s focus on semi-solid-state battery packs is worth considering. This is a high-growth potential sector for investors looking to own a slice of the future of battery technology.</p><p>Removing the liquid substrate from battery development could lead to much faster charging batteries that are safer and carry more range.</p><p>Nio appears to be a key player in the development of such batteries, which means the company could benefit from a broader trend in this space, rather than being viewed as a niche manufacturer.</p><p>The company recently announced it introduced its new battery technology to the Chinese market, with a full rollout planned after May. These semi-solid-state packs will be accessible to customers throughout May 2024 on Weibo.</p><p>This move will boost NIO stock as users test the new tech, potentially driving its climb. Nio’s innovative approach aims to prove resilience against larger automakers.</p><h2 id=\"id_3925452654\">Be Careful with NIO Stock Right Now</h2><p>Nio has seen an impressive surge recently, and this momentum may propel certain investors to step into this name.</p><p>I think NIO stock is one of the most difficult to assess right now. On the one hand, China’s EV market is impressive, and analyst expectations for Nio to produce 18% revenue growth to $9.1 billion over the next year makes the stock look like an interesting bet on a price-sales basis (investors are paying roughly 1-times forward sales).</p><p>That said, for those looking to build a position, I think dollar cost averaging in may be a better move than diving in with both feet. We’ve seen the sort of momentum that can build around Chinese stocks over long periods of time. It’s not clear to me that this downtrend is broken just yet.</p></body></html>","source":"investorplace_stock_picks","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Stock Outlook: Why Investors Should Tread Carefully Despite Impressive Delivery Numbers</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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The Chinese EV company outperformed other EV manufacturers, with 15,620 deliveries. Delivery numbers increased by 134.6% YoY and 31.64% from March. The EV company has again shown resilience, but is the stock worth investors’ attention and confidence? Let’s dive in.Excellent Delivery GrowthNio currently offers eight car models, including five SUVs and three sedans. The most recently announced ET9 sedan will start its deliveries in Q1 2025.From January to April, Nio has delivered over 45,000 vehicles, showing a 21.15% increase year-over-year. Moreover, as of April, Nio reached 495,267 units delivered since its launch, nearing its goal of 500,000 units to be delivered. NIO stock has continued to outperform in recent sessions, outpacing the moves seen in the S&P 500 and Nasdaq.Compared to competitors, Nio is performing well, and its recent deliveries growth acceleration speaks to a potential bifurcation building among certain. Chinese EV names.Ongoing Trials on Solid-State BatteriesAside from strong deliveries numbers, Nio’s focus on semi-solid-state battery packs is worth considering. This is a high-growth potential sector for investors looking to own a slice of the future of battery technology.Removing the liquid substrate from battery development could lead to much faster charging batteries that are safer and carry more range.Nio appears to be a key player in the development of such batteries, which means the company could benefit from a broader trend in this space, rather than being viewed as a niche manufacturer.The company recently announced it introduced its new battery technology to the Chinese market, with a full rollout planned after May. These semi-solid-state packs will be accessible to customers throughout May 2024 on Weibo.This move will boost NIO stock as users test the new tech, potentially driving its climb. Nio’s innovative approach aims to prove resilience against larger automakers.Be Careful with NIO Stock Right NowNio has seen an impressive surge recently, and this momentum may propel certain investors to step into this name.I think NIO stock is one of the most difficult to assess right now. On the one hand, China’s EV market is impressive, and analyst expectations for Nio to produce 18% revenue growth to $9.1 billion over the next year makes the stock look like an interesting bet on a price-sales basis (investors are paying roughly 1-times forward sales).That said, for those looking to build a position, I think dollar cost averaging in may be a better move than diving in with both feet. We’ve seen the sort of momentum that can build around Chinese stocks over long periods of time. It’s not clear to me that this downtrend is broken just yet.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":279,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9944787429,"gmtCreate":1682151339161,"gmtModify":1682151346249,"author":{"id":"4088135301967120","authorId":"4088135301967120","name":"King19","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4088135301967120","authorIdStr":"4088135301967120"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Now we&nbsp;know why he cut 12000 jobs... 😂&nbsp;","listText":"Now we&nbsp;know why he cut 12000 jobs... 😂&nbsp;","text":"Now we know why he cut 12000 jobs... 😂","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9944787429","repostId":"2329320400","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2329320400","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1682124653,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2329320400?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-04-22 08:50","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alphabet CEO’s Pay Soars to $226 Million on Massive Stock Award","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2329320400","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"(Bloomberg) -- The pay package awarded to Alphabet Inc. Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai soared","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Bloomberg) -- The pay package awarded to Alphabet Inc. Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai soared to $226 million in 2022, boosted by a triennial stock award valued at $218 million, dwarfing the compensation of many Silicon Valley peers. </p><p>His pay compared with $6.3 million the prior year, when he didn’t receive the stock award, according to a filing from the Google parent company Friday. His salary has remained steady at $2 million the past three years.</p><p>The stock award comes on a three-year schedule, and Pichai received a similarly sized package in 2019. That year, he was awarded $281 million.</p><p>CEO compensation has become a particular touchy topic in the technology industry, especially after a wave of layoffs at Alphabet and other major companies. Apple Inc. CEO Tim Cook slashed his 2023 pay after drawing ire for making $100 million each of the past two years.</p><p>Pichai’s package put him well above other executives at Alphabet in 2022. Prabhakar Raghavan, the senior vice president of Google’s knowledge and information, and Philipp Schindler, chief business officer, both took in about $37 million. Chief Financial Officer Ruth Porat’s compensation was $24.5 million. Their stock grants are given out on an annual basis.</p><p>In January, Alphabet started cutting about 12,000 jobs, or 6% of its global workforce, following months of other measures to reduce spending and set new priorities. The median total compensation for Alphabet employees was $279,802 in 2022, according to the filing. Pichai’s compensation was 808 times that amount. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">As part of his compensation package, Alphabet spent $5.94 million on personal security for Pichai, according to the filing. </p></body></html>","source":"yahoofinance","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alphabet CEO’s Pay Soars to $226 Million on Massive Stock Award</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlphabet CEO’s Pay Soars to $226 Million on Massive Stock Award\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-04-22 08:50 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alphabet-ceo-pay-soars-226-215127556.html><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>(Bloomberg) -- The pay package awarded to Alphabet Inc. Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai soared to $226 million in 2022, boosted by a triennial stock award valued at $218 million, dwarfing the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alphabet-ceo-pay-soars-226-215127556.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","SG9999014914.USD":"UNITED GLOBAL QUALITY GROWTH (USDHDG) INC","GOOGL":"谷歌A","LU0238689110.USD":"贝莱德环球动力股票基金","LU0109391861.USD":"富兰克林美国机遇基金A Acc","SG9999018865.SGD":"United Global Quality Growth Fd Cl Dist SGD-H","LU0170899867.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS WORLD VALUE EQUITY  \"A\" (USD) ACC","GOOG":"谷歌","LU0642271901.SGD":"Janus Henderson Horizon Global Technology Leaders A2 SGD-H","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","BK4553":"喜马拉雅资本持仓","LU2237443382.USD":"Aberdeen Standard SICAV I - Global Dynamic Dividend A MIncA USD","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0889565833.HKD":"FRANKLIN TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (HKD) ACC","SG9999014880.SGD":"大华全球优质成长基金Acc SGD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU1803068979.SGD":"FTIF - Franklin Technology A (acc) SGD-H1","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0353189680.USD":"富国美国全盘成长基金Cl A Acc","BK4576":"AR","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","IE00B7KXQ091.USD":"Janus Henderson Balanced A Inc USD","LU0128525689.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL BALANCED \"A\"(USD) ACC","LU0310800965.SGD":"FTIF - Templeton Global Balanced A Acc SGD","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4588":"碎股","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","LU0061474705.USD":"THREADNEEDLE (LUX) GLOBAL DYNAMIC REAL RETURN \"AU\" (USD) ACC","BK4503":"景林资产持仓","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","LU0861579265.USD":"联博低波幅策略股票基金A","LU0672654240.SGD":"FTIF - Franklin US Opportunities A Acc SGD-H1","IE00B1BXHZ80.USD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - US Appreciation A Acc USD","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0061475181.USD":"THREADNEEDLE (LUX) AMERICAN \"AU\" (USD) ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4573":"虚拟现实","LU0029864427.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0786609619.USD":"高盛全球千禧一代股票组合Acc","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU0708994859.HKD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU0149725797.USD":"汇丰美国股市经济规模基金","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0127658192.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU0256863811.USD":"ALLIANZ US EQUITY \"A\" INC","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4514":"搜索引擎"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alphabet-ceo-pay-soars-226-215127556.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5f26f4a48f9cb3e29be4d71d3ba8c038","article_id":"2329320400","content_text":"(Bloomberg) -- The pay package awarded to Alphabet Inc. Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai soared to $226 million in 2022, boosted by a triennial stock award valued at $218 million, dwarfing the compensation of many Silicon Valley peers. His pay compared with $6.3 million the prior year, when he didn’t receive the stock award, according to a filing from the Google parent company Friday. His salary has remained steady at $2 million the past three years.The stock award comes on a three-year schedule, and Pichai received a similarly sized package in 2019. That year, he was awarded $281 million.CEO compensation has become a particular touchy topic in the technology industry, especially after a wave of layoffs at Alphabet and other major companies. Apple Inc. CEO Tim Cook slashed his 2023 pay after drawing ire for making $100 million each of the past two years.Pichai’s package put him well above other executives at Alphabet in 2022. Prabhakar Raghavan, the senior vice president of Google’s knowledge and information, and Philipp Schindler, chief business officer, both took in about $37 million. Chief Financial Officer Ruth Porat’s compensation was $24.5 million. Their stock grants are given out on an annual basis.In January, Alphabet started cutting about 12,000 jobs, or 6% of its global workforce, following months of other measures to reduce spending and set new priorities. The median total compensation for Alphabet employees was $279,802 in 2022, according to the filing. Pichai’s compensation was 808 times that amount. As part of his compensation package, Alphabet spent $5.94 million on personal security for Pichai, according to the filing.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":205,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}