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05-14 04:19
CPI will go down delvers a rate cut in September
Patmos
05-10
You buy when market dips
Patmos
05-10
Dirty Deeds by ACDC
Patmos
05-05
Not this time Buy in May & be Rewarded
Patmos
05-04
The markets on a roll invest more
Patmos
04-29
Buy AMD have new chip in development buy price exceeds NAVIDA
Patmos
04-24
Meta stock will be up 5%on earnings
Patmos
04-22
Amazon stock to outperform earnings as AWS is booming, retail is on track & Amazon prime will generate a lot of money from advertising
Patmos
04-21
I sold Navide stock last week luckythe hedge funds are shorting the according to charts ii could fall below $500
Patmos
04-20
Hold Amazon reports in a week advertising from Amazon Prime will push the stock price higher
Patmos
04-19
Good luck yes Singapore needs to accelerate investments
Patmos
04-14
$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$
Patmos
04-14
$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$
Buying BABA - Ali Baba for $250 3 years ago then going to $307 within a week of buying BABA as they about to launch Ant Pay then CEO Jack Ma went missing I still have the stock
Patmos
04-13
$Amazon.com(AMZN)$
But & make money
Patmos
04-13
$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$
Patmos
04-13
$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$
Amazon will have great reporting session on the 22nd of April because of advertising income from prime stwaning will be huge
Patmos
04-11
Yes Wells Fargo ticker WFC will be up 2%
Patmos
04-11
Excellent returns Yes
Patmos
03-30
Bull run in stocks will continue go Tiger Brokers's
Patmos
03-29
Excellent returns the market is on fire
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rival for about $3.3 billion in an share deal that includes extensive guarantees and liquidity provisions. Here are some of the big winners and losers to emerge from the deal.</p><p>The Winner: Ralph Hamers</p><p>UBS’s chief executive officer will see the bank’s wealth and asset management invested assets soar to about $5 trillion and got a special waiver to keep Credit Suisse’s profitable Swiss unit that many analysts said was worth more than triple what UBS paid for the whole firm.</p><p>Ralph Hamers, the former ING Groep NV executive, and his team will have plenty to work through as they consider which businesses and people to keep, alter or jettison. But he’ll have 56 billion francs of so-called badwill to help cover any writedowns, as well as 9 billion francs of guarantees from the Swiss government to take on certain losses. And the firm can access a huge liquidity line from the central bank.</p><p>While UBS will suspend its share buybacks for now, it said it’s still committed to a progressive dividend.</p><p>The (Many) Losers:</p><p>Credit Suisse’s Top Shareholders</p><p>Gulf investors old and new are hurting. Saudi National Bank’s investment was stunning in its brevity: the lender lost 1.1 billion francs less than 15 weeks from when it finished buying its stake in Credit Suisse’s latest capital raise. The firm thought it was buying at a bargain when it became the Swiss bank’s largest shareholder just a few months ago. Saudi National Bank’s chairman helped fuel the panic this week when he ruled out raising its stake in Credit Suisse.</p><p>The Qatar Investment Authority’s pain came over a much longer period, as it first invested in the last financial crisis, but it likely lost an even greater amount. In addition to being the bank’s second-biggest holder, it had owned in the past the firm’s AT1 bonds that were written to zero in the deal, though it’s unclear if QIA still held that debt. Shareholders won’t even get to vote on this deal after Switzerland changed its rules to rush the merger through.</p><p>Ulrich Koerner</p><p>Credit Suisse’s chief executive officer is expected to depart, having inherited a broken lender that he was unable to revive. Ulrich Koerner, who only took the top job last summer, had already mapped out a plan to cut back risk after a torrent of scandals and losses to focus more on wealth management. Bolder still was a plan to break out the bank’s best-performing investment banking businesses. But the firm was unable to recover from a crisis of confidence that caused billions of dollars to exit in October. In recent days, the pressure intensified until the Swiss government was forced to step in.</p><p>Michael Klein</p><p>The former Citigroup Inc. investment bank head’s grand plan to revive the First Boston brand and build it into a Wall Street advisory powerhouse now looks in ashes. Michael Klein, who had been tapped to lead the CSFB spinoff, was already in the process of selling his advisory boutique to Credit Suisse for a consideration of about $210 million when the bank’s fortunes suddenly unraveled in recent weeks. While UBS Chairman Colm Kelleher didn’t directly address CSFB at a press conference late Sunday, he did indicate that the firm was happy with its own investment bank and planned to cut back Credit Suisse’s substantially as well as pare back risk.</p><p>AT1 Bondholders</p><p>Bond investors are typically better protected from losses than shareholders, but not in this case. The Swiss regulator will impose losses on $17 billion of high-risk debt known as Additional Tier 1 bonds that make up part of a buffer of debt and equity intended to prevent taxpayers from having to shoulder the bill for a bank’s collapse. The total writedown marked the biggest loss yet for Europe’s $275 billion AT1 market. Shareholders, who typically are first to take a hit in a writedown scenario, got at least a small consideration.</p><p>Swiss regulators</p><p>Finma became the first regulator to watch a bank deemed systemically important have to be rescued since the financial crisis. The Swiss government had to step in an provide billions of francs in guarantees to UBS and the central bank was forced to provide extensive liquidity backstops to facilitate the rescue, putting taxpayers at risk 15 years after they bailed out UBS. Swiss Finance Minister Karin Keller-Sutter acknowledged it was the only way to stabilize international financial markets.</p></body></html>","source":"yahoofinance_sg","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The One Big Winner and Many Losers of UBS’s Credit Suisse Rescue</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe One Big Winner and Many Losers of UBS’s Credit Suisse Rescue\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-20 09:02 GMT+8 <a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-big-winner-many-losers-230133489.html><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>UBS Group AG is emerging as a rare winner in Credit Suisse Group AG’s crisis after a historic, government-brokered deal that contains a raft of financial shock absorbers.After a weekend of frantic ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-big-winner-many-losers-230133489.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"UBS":"瑞银"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-big-winner-many-losers-230133489.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2320521639","content_text":"UBS Group AG is emerging as a rare winner in Credit Suisse Group AG’s crisis after a historic, government-brokered deal that contains a raft of financial shock absorbers.After a weekend of frantic talks to forge a solution before markets opened in Asia, the firm struck a deal to buy its smaller rival for about $3.3 billion in an share deal that includes extensive guarantees and liquidity provisions. Here are some of the big winners and losers to emerge from the deal.The Winner: Ralph HamersUBS’s chief executive officer will see the bank’s wealth and asset management invested assets soar to about $5 trillion and got a special waiver to keep Credit Suisse’s profitable Swiss unit that many analysts said was worth more than triple what UBS paid for the whole firm.Ralph Hamers, the former ING Groep NV executive, and his team will have plenty to work through as they consider which businesses and people to keep, alter or jettison. But he’ll have 56 billion francs of so-called badwill to help cover any writedowns, as well as 9 billion francs of guarantees from the Swiss government to take on certain losses. And the firm can access a huge liquidity line from the central bank.While UBS will suspend its share buybacks for now, it said it’s still committed to a progressive dividend.The (Many) Losers:Credit Suisse’s Top ShareholdersGulf investors old and new are hurting. Saudi National Bank’s investment was stunning in its brevity: the lender lost 1.1 billion francs less than 15 weeks from when it finished buying its stake in Credit Suisse’s latest capital raise. The firm thought it was buying at a bargain when it became the Swiss bank’s largest shareholder just a few months ago. Saudi National Bank’s chairman helped fuel the panic this week when he ruled out raising its stake in Credit Suisse.The Qatar Investment Authority’s pain came over a much longer period, as it first invested in the last financial crisis, but it likely lost an even greater amount. In addition to being the bank’s second-biggest holder, it had owned in the past the firm’s AT1 bonds that were written to zero in the deal, though it’s unclear if QIA still held that debt. Shareholders won’t even get to vote on this deal after Switzerland changed its rules to rush the merger through.Ulrich KoernerCredit Suisse’s chief executive officer is expected to depart, having inherited a broken lender that he was unable to revive. Ulrich Koerner, who only took the top job last summer, had already mapped out a plan to cut back risk after a torrent of scandals and losses to focus more on wealth management. Bolder still was a plan to break out the bank’s best-performing investment banking businesses. But the firm was unable to recover from a crisis of confidence that caused billions of dollars to exit in October. In recent days, the pressure intensified until the Swiss government was forced to step in.Michael KleinThe former Citigroup Inc. investment bank head’s grand plan to revive the First Boston brand and build it into a Wall Street advisory powerhouse now looks in ashes. Michael Klein, who had been tapped to lead the CSFB spinoff, was already in the process of selling his advisory boutique to Credit Suisse for a consideration of about $210 million when the bank’s fortunes suddenly unraveled in recent weeks. While UBS Chairman Colm Kelleher didn’t directly address CSFB at a press conference late Sunday, he did indicate that the firm was happy with its own investment bank and planned to cut back Credit Suisse’s substantially as well as pare back risk.AT1 BondholdersBond investors are typically better protected from losses than shareholders, but not in this case. The Swiss regulator will impose losses on $17 billion of high-risk debt known as Additional Tier 1 bonds that make up part of a buffer of debt and equity intended to prevent taxpayers from having to shoulder the bill for a bank’s collapse. The total writedown marked the biggest loss yet for Europe’s $275 billion AT1 market. Shareholders, who typically are first to take a hit in a writedown scenario, got at least a small consideration.Swiss regulatorsFinma became the first regulator to watch a bank deemed systemically important have to be rescued since the financial crisis. The Swiss government had to step in an provide billions of francs in guarantees to UBS and the central bank was forced to provide extensive liquidity backstops to facilitate the rescue, putting taxpayers at risk 15 years after they bailed out UBS. Swiss Finance Minister Karin Keller-Sutter acknowledged it was the only way to stabilize international financial markets.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":140,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":293925668937840,"gmtCreate":1712790654289,"gmtModify":1712790658083,"author":{"id":"4107097862867960","authorId":"4107097862867960","name":"Patmos","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d0b2e09fdb3dc618e98d3ac304599118","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Yes Wells Fargo ticker WFC will be up 2%","listText":"Yes Wells Fargo ticker WFC will be up 2%","text":"Yes Wells Fargo ticker WFC will be up 2%","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":1,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/293925668937840","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":93,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9916231850,"gmtCreate":1664596248271,"gmtModify":1676537482802,"author":{"id":"4107097862867960","authorId":"4107097862867960","name":"Patmos","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d0b2e09fdb3dc618e98d3ac304599118","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Buy into the dips for the long run , I'am a investor not a speculator ","listText":"Buy into the dips for the long run , I'am a investor not a speculator ","text":"Buy into the dips for the long run , I'am a investor not a speculator","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":4,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9916231850","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":34,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"9000000000000432","authorId":"9000000000000432","name":"PagRobinson","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f27744c1fabf17b5f44122ab53e7da10","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"excellent! 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Photographer: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images\" title=\"iRobot Roomba vacuums. Photographer: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1500\"/><span>iRobot Roomba vacuums. Photographer: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Amazon.com Inc.’s proposed $1.7 billion deal to buy robot vacuum firm iRobot Corp. was given the all-clear by the UK’s antitrust agency.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The Competition and Markets Authority said the deal would not lead to competition concerns in the UK market after an initial review, according to a statement Friday. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares of Amazon were little changed in pre-market trading as the deal still faces an in-depth review by the Federal Trade Commission in the US and a review by the European Commission in Brussels. The EU will decide on whether to start a phase 2 probe by July 6.</p><p>The iRobot deal, announced in August, has raised competition and privacy worries from tech advocacy groups as the e-commerce giant seeks more internet-connected devices in people’s homes. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The agency said that iRobot’s position in supplying robot vacuum cleaners in the UK is modest and already has significant rivals. It also found it would not disadvantage Amazon’s rival smart home platforms and the firm would have no incentive to undermine its rivals on its retail platforms. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“It’s important to ensure tech firms that already benefit from powerful positions aren’t able to use those positions to undermine competitors at the expense of UK consumers and businesses,” said Colin Raftery, senior director of mergers at the CMA. “After a thorough investigation, we’re satisfied that the deal would have no impact on competition in the UK.” </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The approval will be a relief to the tech giant given how the CMA has taken a more aggressive line with Big Tech mergers of late. It decided to to block Microsoft’s $69 billion Activision Blizzard Inc. deal in April and put a stop to Meta Platforms Inc.’s purchase of Giphy last year. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“We’re pleased with the UK Competition and Markets Authority’s decision and are committed to supporting regulatory bodies in their work,” Amazon said in a statement. “We look forward to similar decisions from other regulators soon.” </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In pre-market trading, its shares fell 0.2% to $126.80.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Seattle-based Amazon is also facing separate scrutiny from UK regulators including a cloud probe into the AWS business spearheaded by UK telecoms regulator Ofcom. and another CMA investigation into Amazon Marketplace. </p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Amazon’s $1.7 Billion iRobot Deal Gets UK Deal Clearance</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAmazon’s $1.7 Billion iRobot Deal Gets UK Deal Clearance\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-06-16 17:58 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-16/amazon-s-irobot-deal-gets-uk-competition-and-markets-authority-clearance?srnd=premium><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>CMA said deal will not lead to antitrust concerns in UK marketThe tie-up is still facing scrutiny in the EU and the USiRobot Roomba vacuums. 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Photographer: Justin Sullivan/Getty ImagesAmazon.com Inc.’s proposed $1.7 billion deal to buy robot vacuum firm iRobot Corp. was given the all-clear by the UK’s antitrust agency.The Competition and Markets Authority said the deal would not lead to competition concerns in the UK market after an initial review, according to a statement Friday. Shares of Amazon were little changed in pre-market trading as the deal still faces an in-depth review by the Federal Trade Commission in the US and a review by the European Commission in Brussels. The EU will decide on whether to start a phase 2 probe by July 6.The iRobot deal, announced in August, has raised competition and privacy worries from tech advocacy groups as the e-commerce giant seeks more internet-connected devices in people’s homes. The agency said that iRobot’s position in supplying robot vacuum cleaners in the UK is modest and already has significant rivals. It also found it would not disadvantage Amazon’s rival smart home platforms and the firm would have no incentive to undermine its rivals on its retail platforms. “It’s important to ensure tech firms that already benefit from powerful positions aren’t able to use those positions to undermine competitors at the expense of UK consumers and businesses,” said Colin Raftery, senior director of mergers at the CMA. “After a thorough investigation, we’re satisfied that the deal would have no impact on competition in the UK.” The approval will be a relief to the tech giant given how the CMA has taken a more aggressive line with Big Tech mergers of late. It decided to to block Microsoft’s $69 billion Activision Blizzard Inc. deal in April and put a stop to Meta Platforms Inc.’s purchase of Giphy last year. “We’re pleased with the UK Competition and Markets Authority’s decision and are committed to supporting regulatory bodies in their work,” Amazon said in a statement. “We look forward to similar decisions from other regulators soon.” In pre-market trading, its shares fell 0.2% to $126.80.Seattle-based Amazon is also facing separate scrutiny from UK regulators including a cloud probe into the AWS business spearheaded by UK telecoms regulator Ofcom. and another CMA investigation into Amazon Marketplace.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":19,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9966460443,"gmtCreate":1669613073382,"gmtModify":1676538213854,"author":{"id":"4107097862867960","authorId":"4107097862867960","name":"Patmos","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d0b2e09fdb3dc618e98d3ac304599118","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Don't agree Amazon is closing the gap in sales to Walmart to become number 1","listText":"Don't agree Amazon is closing the gap in sales to Walmart to become number 1","text":"Don't agree Amazon is closing the gap in sales to Walmart to become number 1","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9966460443","repostId":"2286703379","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2286703379","pubTimestamp":1669607156,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2286703379?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-11-28 11:45","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Amazon: This Is The Price Where I Will Load Up","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2286703379","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryAmazon’s business is seeing a major post-pandemic slowdown.The e-Commerce is struggling and n","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Amazon’s business is seeing a major post-pandemic slowdown.</li><li>The e-Commerce is struggling and not consistently profitable.</li><li>However, if shares fall to this price level, I will consider buying.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/84e65294f63443cd34524af0f54c3ad6\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"720\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>4kodiak/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images</span></p><p>Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) disappointed in October with its outlook for the fourth-quarter which called for top line growth of just 2-8%. In the near term, there is even the possibility of a further deceleration of revenuegrowth as the company faces multiple headwinds, especially in its e-Commerce business. In November, Amazon also announced major layoffs to prepare for a recession and stop the bleeding in the e-Commerce business. Since it appears to me that more down-side looms in the short term, I will discuss at what price I am going to load up on Amazon!</p><h2>Amazon: From pandemic winner to problem child</h2><p>Amazon was one of those companies that benefited tremendously from the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 and 2021 which resulted inUS e-Commerce volumes soaring. Amazon's net revenues surged 38% year over year to $386.1B in FY 2021 and then another 22% to $469.8B in FY 2021. However, Amazon's revenue growth is going through a post-pandemic normalization period and the firm's outlook for the fourth-quarter showed that the period of hyper-growth is truly over for Amazon.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a7d756d50c1e1916bc411fd316f5bdca\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p>Amazon's Q4'22 outlook calls for $140B to $148B in revenues which implies that the firm's growth rate could slow to just 2% year over year in the fourth-quarter. It is therefore likely that Amazon will post the slowest growth ever as a public company in the near term, which could push shares of the e-Commerce giant into a new down-leg.</p><p>Amazon's core e-Commerce operations have started to struggle last year -- as opposed to AWS which is doing great -- and it is likely the key motivation for Amazon to make major adjustments to its pay-roll. Amazon announced job cuts in November that could include up to 10 thousand jobs as the e-Commerce company readies itself for a recession in FY 2023 and addresses profitability problems in its core business.</p><p>Amazon's Q3'22 e-Commerce revenues in the US totaled $78.8B, showing 20% year over year growth. The third-quarter was the second straight quarter of revenue acceleration after top line growth slowed to just 8% in Q1'22. However, a recession appears to be just around the cornerand some predictions (from Statista Digital Market Outlook) even project a first-ever decline in global e-Commerce sales in FY 2022.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c92af9065fb17b7a74a1781eeefa820e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"640\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Source: Statista</span></p><p>Amazon's e-Commerce business is highly dependent on consumer spending and a US recession could compound Amazon's current problems. Amazon's North American e-Commerce segment generated 62% of consolidated revenues in Q3'22 while the international e-Commerce segment was responsible for 22% of revenues and AWS accounted for 16% top line share.</p><p>However, the largest segment is profoundly unprofitable for Amazon, a situation which a US recession could make considerably worse and it could result in growing margin pressures in Amazon's core business. Amazon's North American e-Commerce operations generated cumulative operating losses of $2.8B in the trailing 12-month period ending September 30, 2022 which calculates to a negative margin of 0.9%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d24cec7344eca1734fe8398bd854fa28\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"333\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Source: Amazon</span></p><p>The situation is even worse for the international business, but less severe in total dollar terms because the international segment generates much lower revenues than Amazon's North American segment. The international segment generated $27.7B in Q3'22 revenues which is equal to just 35% of revenues in the North American e-Commerce business. International segment operating losses in the last 12-month period totaled $7.1B and reflected a negative operating margin of 5.9%. Both the international as well as the North American e-Commerce segments were consistently unprofitable in each of the last four quarters and losses in the international business escalated to $2.5B just in Q3'22.</p><p>The bright spot, as I mentioned in "Amazon: 2 Risks, 1 Opportunity", is Amazon's server business - Amazon Web Services -- which is compensating for the decline in the e-Commerce business. Amazon Web Services generated $20.5B in net revenues in Q3'22, showing 27% year over year growth. The business is also super profitable with a 12-month trailing operating income of $22.9B and a margin of 30%.</p><h2>Here's the price I will buy Amazon at</h2><p>Amazon is projected to generate $510.8B in revenues in FY 2022 and $566.6B in FY 2023, implying growth rates of 9% and 11%. However, due in part to the disappointing forecast for Q4'22, forward EPS estimates have started to trend down hard in the last three months and the market now widely expects the business to continue to slow down in FY 2023. Unfortunately, there is also a real possibility that Amazon's top line will contract for the first time ever in FY 2023… it certainly is possible considering that the e-Commerce business is already struggling and margins don't look great either.</p><p>Currently, shares of Amazon are priced at a P-E ratio of 1.7 X and a P/E ratio of 54.5 X. Amazon, on a consolidated level, is profitable, but the P/E ratio is rather high considering how slowly the top line is growing now. Although shares of Amazon have already lost 44% of their value in 2022, I don't consider shares of Amazon attractively priced yet. Amazon has high top line and estimate risks that are possibly at their highest in years right now, if not decades. To reflect those risks accurately, I would be willing to pay an 30-33 X P-E ratio for AMZN which translates to a price range of $52-57. This would be a very attractive price range to buy AMZN, if the stock price ever declines this much. A P/E ratio of 30-33 X would be a fair price to pay for Amazon's fast-growing AWS business.</p><h2>Risks with Amazon</h2><p>The biggest risk for Amazon, as I see it, is that revenue growth in the first half of FY 2023 will continue to decelerate as the global economy slows down and consumers become more careful of how they spend their money. In the worst case, Amazon's top line growth could even turn negative although I believe Amazon will continue to grow over the long term, chiefly because of AWS. What I also see as a risk is a compression of margins (especially in the e-Commerce business) and Amazon may have to lay off more people going forward to boost profitability.</p><h2>Final thoughts</h2><p>Amazon has built a formidable enterprise in the last two decades but there are core problems that I feel are not yet fully addressed. The e-Commerce business is slowing down hard and its margins are set to come under further pressure from a recession. AWS is providing a strong offset for Amazon, but e-Commerce, due to its large size within Amazon, should be expected to remain a drag on Amazon's commercial performance in FY 2023.</p><p>I will back up the truck with shares of Amazon between $52-57 which implies a drawdown of 39% to 45% from current pricing and the growing possibility of a recession is what could drive shares down to this level. While there is no guarantee that Amazon's share price will drop this low, I believe this price level would reflect a valuation at which investors get a very decent discount on the firm's long term growth prospects!</p><p><i>This article is written by The Asian Investor for reference only. Please note the risks.</i></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Amazon: This Is The Price Where I Will Load Up</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAmazon: This Is The Price Where I Will Load Up\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-11-28 11:45 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4560596-amazon-price-load-up><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryAmazon’s business is seeing a major post-pandemic slowdown.The e-Commerce is struggling and not consistently profitable.However, if shares fall to this price level, I will consider buying.4...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4560596-amazon-price-load-up\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMZN":"亚马逊"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4560596-amazon-price-load-up","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2286703379","content_text":"SummaryAmazon’s business is seeing a major post-pandemic slowdown.The e-Commerce is struggling and not consistently profitable.However, if shares fall to this price level, I will consider buying.4kodiak/iStock Unreleased via Getty ImagesAmazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) disappointed in October with its outlook for the fourth-quarter which called for top line growth of just 2-8%. In the near term, there is even the possibility of a further deceleration of revenuegrowth as the company faces multiple headwinds, especially in its e-Commerce business. In November, Amazon also announced major layoffs to prepare for a recession and stop the bleeding in the e-Commerce business. Since it appears to me that more down-side looms in the short term, I will discuss at what price I am going to load up on Amazon!Amazon: From pandemic winner to problem childAmazon was one of those companies that benefited tremendously from the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 and 2021 which resulted inUS e-Commerce volumes soaring. Amazon's net revenues surged 38% year over year to $386.1B in FY 2021 and then another 22% to $469.8B in FY 2021. However, Amazon's revenue growth is going through a post-pandemic normalization period and the firm's outlook for the fourth-quarter showed that the period of hyper-growth is truly over for Amazon.Data by YChartsAmazon's Q4'22 outlook calls for $140B to $148B in revenues which implies that the firm's growth rate could slow to just 2% year over year in the fourth-quarter. It is therefore likely that Amazon will post the slowest growth ever as a public company in the near term, which could push shares of the e-Commerce giant into a new down-leg.Amazon's core e-Commerce operations have started to struggle last year -- as opposed to AWS which is doing great -- and it is likely the key motivation for Amazon to make major adjustments to its pay-roll. Amazon announced job cuts in November that could include up to 10 thousand jobs as the e-Commerce company readies itself for a recession in FY 2023 and addresses profitability problems in its core business.Amazon's Q3'22 e-Commerce revenues in the US totaled $78.8B, showing 20% year over year growth. The third-quarter was the second straight quarter of revenue acceleration after top line growth slowed to just 8% in Q1'22. However, a recession appears to be just around the cornerand some predictions (from Statista Digital Market Outlook) even project a first-ever decline in global e-Commerce sales in FY 2022.Source: StatistaAmazon's e-Commerce business is highly dependent on consumer spending and a US recession could compound Amazon's current problems. Amazon's North American e-Commerce segment generated 62% of consolidated revenues in Q3'22 while the international e-Commerce segment was responsible for 22% of revenues and AWS accounted for 16% top line share.However, the largest segment is profoundly unprofitable for Amazon, a situation which a US recession could make considerably worse and it could result in growing margin pressures in Amazon's core business. Amazon's North American e-Commerce operations generated cumulative operating losses of $2.8B in the trailing 12-month period ending September 30, 2022 which calculates to a negative margin of 0.9%.Source: AmazonThe situation is even worse for the international business, but less severe in total dollar terms because the international segment generates much lower revenues than Amazon's North American segment. The international segment generated $27.7B in Q3'22 revenues which is equal to just 35% of revenues in the North American e-Commerce business. International segment operating losses in the last 12-month period totaled $7.1B and reflected a negative operating margin of 5.9%. Both the international as well as the North American e-Commerce segments were consistently unprofitable in each of the last four quarters and losses in the international business escalated to $2.5B just in Q3'22.The bright spot, as I mentioned in \"Amazon: 2 Risks, 1 Opportunity\", is Amazon's server business - Amazon Web Services -- which is compensating for the decline in the e-Commerce business. Amazon Web Services generated $20.5B in net revenues in Q3'22, showing 27% year over year growth. The business is also super profitable with a 12-month trailing operating income of $22.9B and a margin of 30%.Here's the price I will buy Amazon atAmazon is projected to generate $510.8B in revenues in FY 2022 and $566.6B in FY 2023, implying growth rates of 9% and 11%. However, due in part to the disappointing forecast for Q4'22, forward EPS estimates have started to trend down hard in the last three months and the market now widely expects the business to continue to slow down in FY 2023. Unfortunately, there is also a real possibility that Amazon's top line will contract for the first time ever in FY 2023… it certainly is possible considering that the e-Commerce business is already struggling and margins don't look great either.Currently, shares of Amazon are priced at a P-E ratio of 1.7 X and a P/E ratio of 54.5 X. Amazon, on a consolidated level, is profitable, but the P/E ratio is rather high considering how slowly the top line is growing now. Although shares of Amazon have already lost 44% of their value in 2022, I don't consider shares of Amazon attractively priced yet. Amazon has high top line and estimate risks that are possibly at their highest in years right now, if not decades. To reflect those risks accurately, I would be willing to pay an 30-33 X P-E ratio for AMZN which translates to a price range of $52-57. This would be a very attractive price range to buy AMZN, if the stock price ever declines this much. A P/E ratio of 30-33 X would be a fair price to pay for Amazon's fast-growing AWS business.Risks with AmazonThe biggest risk for Amazon, as I see it, is that revenue growth in the first half of FY 2023 will continue to decelerate as the global economy slows down and consumers become more careful of how they spend their money. In the worst case, Amazon's top line growth could even turn negative although I believe Amazon will continue to grow over the long term, chiefly because of AWS. What I also see as a risk is a compression of margins (especially in the e-Commerce business) and Amazon may have to lay off more people going forward to boost profitability.Final thoughtsAmazon has built a formidable enterprise in the last two decades but there are core problems that I feel are not yet fully addressed. The e-Commerce business is slowing down hard and its margins are set to come under further pressure from a recession. AWS is providing a strong offset for Amazon, but e-Commerce, due to its large size within Amazon, should be expected to remain a drag on Amazon's commercial performance in FY 2023.I will back up the truck with shares of Amazon between $52-57 which implies a drawdown of 39% to 45% from current pricing and the growing possibility of a recession is what could drive shares down to this level. While there is no guarantee that Amazon's share price will drop this low, I believe this price level would reflect a valuation at which investors get a very decent discount on the firm's long term growth prospects!This article is written by The Asian Investor for reference only. 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Move Slowly, Size Properly, And Diversify","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2264713810","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir is down 80% from its all-time high.Investors getting back to even face a tough road ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>Palantir is down 80% from its all-time high.</li><li>Investors getting back to even face a tough road ahead.</li><li>Volatility can cloud judgment and amplifies emotions.</li><li>PLTR could be a Buy for certain investors; I'm cautiously optimistic.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5161cf24383825916fdda5a8d1265e6a\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"720\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Maria Symchych-Navrotska</span></p><p><b>Down 80%</b></p><p>Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) is down 80% from its all-time high. Actually, to be very precise, PLTR is down 81%, but what's 1% between friends?</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/95e793f0a76a887f0d46cde8613a143b\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>PLTR data by YCharts</span></p><p>So, what was happening back then?</p><ul><li>Palantir Technologiesbags new $22.5M contract in Japan</li><li>Fujitsu signs $8M contract as Palantir Foundry customer</li><li>Palantir selected to work on Army’s Ground Station modernization</li><li>Palantir announces multi-million dollar deal with PG&E</li><li>Palantir shares surge 25% ahead of Demo Day</li></ul><p>It certainly wasn't all good news:</p><ul><li>Palantir cut to sell at Citi ahead of lockup, decelerating growth</li></ul><p>Yet, we were in the days of Wall Street Bets going wild. And, the key back in early 2021 was that PLTR was riding high on sentiment, <i>and retail</i>. At that point in time, few people were thinking about "macro" at all:</p><blockquote>Retail trading is definitely changing the way markets function, but what really seems to matter is that we now have a stock picker's market for the first time since the dot-com bubble. That means stocks may be less sensitive to the broader economy than they used to be, while the professionals need to pay attention to a new generation of investors that entered the scene after the rise of commission-free trading. Instead of following many of the upgrades and downgrades on Wall Street, they're doing their own research on platforms like Seeking Alpha, and signaling a new era to the DIY investing atmosphere.</blockquote><p>Of course, we know from even the most basic charts that retail went sour and macro has taken over for now: interest rates, inflation, war, just to name a few factors that have taken hold. I was rather clear about this in May 2022:</p><blockquote>The biggest macro story last year into this year was that growth was shifting to value. Of course, PLTR is clearly in the growth category. However, at this time, we have the perfect storm of inflation, supply chain issues, growth out of favor, and way more. Just about everything is against PLTR in the grand view.</blockquote><p><b>Are We Really Down 80%</b></p><p>This is where things get tricky. I'm down about 35% because my cost basis is over $11. It's not too hard to mathematically figure out how far an investor is down. It's also not mathematically hard to figure out how much is required to get back to even. The problem is that it's psychologically difficult to put losses and gains together.Here's what I mean:</p><blockquote>One of the more compelling aspects of investing is the math of gains and losses. Very simply, a 50% gain does not allow a portfolio to recover from a 50% loss. In fact, a 100% gain is required to restore a 50% loss.</blockquote><p>Here's a compelling picture to better understand how this works:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b77ef4ec0b7a3bd2e6445460fe02376\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"484\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>The Math of Recovery From a Portfolio Loss (Craig Israelsen, Ph.D.)</span></p><p>Importantly, this also applies to any individual stock. The math doesn't change because we're looking at the S&P 500 (SPY) or PLTR.</p><p>Making this personal, I'm down 35% so PLTR needs to gain about 54% from here for me to get back to even on my investment. As I'm writing this up, PLTR is trading at $7.40 so I can multiply by 1.54 (i.e., 54%) to see that is how I get back to my cost basis of $11.40.</p><p>Again, I must stress that the math isn't too difficult. The decline is easy to calculate. And, the gain is easy to calculate. But, what happens is that we anchor to our starting price, so the recovery feels extra painful. Pain and pleasure are not symmetric.</p><blockquote>If there is a tiger chasing after you versus a suitcase full of money in front of you, which would motivate the average person to act quickly? Avoiding a certain amount of immediate pain wins over gaining immediate pleasure every time. Studies have demonstrated time and time again that people will do much more to avoid short-term pain than they will to gain short-term pleasure.</blockquote><p>This is why having a long-term view of an investment is so critical. The more you check your investments, like PLTR, the more likely you are to feel bad. This is true even when the stock is mostly going up, because every tick down is 2-3x more painful than one tick up. Furthermore, this also partially explains why it's critical to have a portfolio that makes you comfortable. In other words, diversification helps to moderate feelings because quite often at least some investments are going up.</p><p><b>Putting The "Loss" in Perspective</b></p><p>My little psychology lesson here is of paramount importance. If you believe that PLTR is a meme stock, then you will be thinking of PLTR as a short-term play. It's quite likely that selling will happen on big dips and it will be painful.</p><p>On the other hand, if you believe Alex Karp, in that PLTR is a long-term play, then your patience will grow dramatically.Hat Tip to Samuel Smith for clarifying this, in regards to Karp speaking at the World Economic Forum:</p><blockquote>Given the required scale, scope, and strength of enterprise software products, PLTR typically takes up to 5 years to fully build them. As a result, the true value of PLTR at any point in time is often never fully appreciated until ~5 years down the road. The bright side of this, however, is that due to the length of time required for fully building and implementing a new enterprise software product, they often have even longer durations in the marketplace.</blockquote><p>I don't think I've ever really made the case that PLTR was a short play. My minimum is nearly always 2-3 years, often much longer. When you buy PLTR, you better plan on holding a long time or you'll almost certainly be selling.</p><p>Here, let me help you with that using a simple visual.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bdb4a1bd8a48e99a7dde89069d38ff1f\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"826\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>PLTR 30-Day Rolling Volatility data by YCharts</span></p><p>That's volatility and it will shake weak hands, forcing them to sell. That's the fear part of volatility. But keep in mind that volatility also generates greed. When the price is rising like crazy the herd jumps on board:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/06bef574ff547e600696e1a28b73f598\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"177\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>25% PLTR Share Price Gain Without Any Catalysts (Seeking Alpha)</span></p><p>No new catalysts? That's not entirely true because we know from the title that this was on the cusp of PLTR's Demo Day. Emotions. Sentiment. Yes, that's absolutely true, <i>and the expectations of the herd itself was the catalyst</i>. Although, to be clear, and fair, there was no tangible catalyst on July 22nd, 2021. In any event, we know PLTR will vacillate. I see no reason why this will not continue so "Fair Warning!" is issued again: <i>Here There Be Volatility</i>.</p><p><b>Wrap Up</b></p><p>Most investors holding PLTR are holding onto a capital loss. The downside is the difficult problem of getting back to even, or even moving into the green. We're all looking to win, right?</p><p>The upside is that it's now a bit easier to understand PLTR's price action, with a reference to volatility. Furthermore, it's a wee bit more simple to know what it will take to get to even, at least in terms of the financials.</p><p>What are the catalysts?Q2 2022 tells us quite a bit:</p><ul><li>Overall Revenue Growth (i.e., $473 million in Q2 2022)</li><li>Customer Count Increases (e.g., Q2 2022 count up to 304 from 169 YoY)</li><li>TAM Expansion (i.e., Gotham, Foundry, Apollo all open for expansion)</li><li>New Products (e.g., Edge AI, HyperAuto, OPIs, Cosmos, Pipeline Builder)</li><li>Developer Community (e.g., Foundry Docs, APIs public, Content Creators)</li></ul><p>Of course, I'm still frustrated by stock-based compensation. Just look up some of my PLTR articles. It comes up many times. But, I also note that I expect that to burn down a lot over the next 2-3 years. We'll see.</p><p>While I do think that PLTR's 30% growth is at risk, I said this too:</p><blockquote>I believe that PLTR is still a Hold. Furthermore, I would not consider buying unless we see the price dip below $8, although that might not be low enough to get me to pull the trigger. We're in rough waters right now. But, again, I do think this is very unique and special company, that should do well over the very long term.</blockquote><p>The company isn't going bankrupt, or anything remotely that silly. And, we are below $8 at this time. I'm going to very, very cautiously issue a "Buy" of PLTR at this point, for those investors looking to lower their cost basis, and also for those investors who want to tip toe into the company. Tread carefully. Move slowly. Size properly, and be sure to diversify as appropriate for your risk tolerance and portfolio composition.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Down 80% - Move Slowly, Size Properly, And Diversify</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Down 80% - Move Slowly, Size Properly, And Diversify\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-06 07:57 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4538855-palantir-down-80-percent-move-slowly-size-properly-and-diversify><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryPalantir is down 80% from its all-time high.Investors getting back to even face a tough road ahead.Volatility can cloud judgment and amplifies emotions.PLTR could be a Buy for certain investors...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4538855-palantir-down-80-percent-move-slowly-size-properly-and-diversify\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4538855-palantir-down-80-percent-move-slowly-size-properly-and-diversify","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2264713810","content_text":"SummaryPalantir is down 80% from its all-time high.Investors getting back to even face a tough road ahead.Volatility can cloud judgment and amplifies emotions.PLTR could be a Buy for certain investors; I'm cautiously optimistic.Maria Symchych-NavrotskaDown 80%Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) is down 80% from its all-time high. Actually, to be very precise, PLTR is down 81%, but what's 1% between friends?PLTR data by YChartsSo, what was happening back then?Palantir Technologiesbags new $22.5M contract in JapanFujitsu signs $8M contract as Palantir Foundry customerPalantir selected to work on Army’s Ground Station modernizationPalantir announces multi-million dollar deal with PG&EPalantir shares surge 25% ahead of Demo DayIt certainly wasn't all good news:Palantir cut to sell at Citi ahead of lockup, decelerating growthYet, we were in the days of Wall Street Bets going wild. And, the key back in early 2021 was that PLTR was riding high on sentiment, and retail. At that point in time, few people were thinking about \"macro\" at all:Retail trading is definitely changing the way markets function, but what really seems to matter is that we now have a stock picker's market for the first time since the dot-com bubble. That means stocks may be less sensitive to the broader economy than they used to be, while the professionals need to pay attention to a new generation of investors that entered the scene after the rise of commission-free trading. Instead of following many of the upgrades and downgrades on Wall Street, they're doing their own research on platforms like Seeking Alpha, and signaling a new era to the DIY investing atmosphere.Of course, we know from even the most basic charts that retail went sour and macro has taken over for now: interest rates, inflation, war, just to name a few factors that have taken hold. I was rather clear about this in May 2022:The biggest macro story last year into this year was that growth was shifting to value. Of course, PLTR is clearly in the growth category. However, at this time, we have the perfect storm of inflation, supply chain issues, growth out of favor, and way more. Just about everything is against PLTR in the grand view.Are We Really Down 80%This is where things get tricky. I'm down about 35% because my cost basis is over $11. It's not too hard to mathematically figure out how far an investor is down. It's also not mathematically hard to figure out how much is required to get back to even. The problem is that it's psychologically difficult to put losses and gains together.Here's what I mean:One of the more compelling aspects of investing is the math of gains and losses. Very simply, a 50% gain does not allow a portfolio to recover from a 50% loss. In fact, a 100% gain is required to restore a 50% loss.Here's a compelling picture to better understand how this works:The Math of Recovery From a Portfolio Loss (Craig Israelsen, Ph.D.)Importantly, this also applies to any individual stock. The math doesn't change because we're looking at the S&P 500 (SPY) or PLTR.Making this personal, I'm down 35% so PLTR needs to gain about 54% from here for me to get back to even on my investment. As I'm writing this up, PLTR is trading at $7.40 so I can multiply by 1.54 (i.e., 54%) to see that is how I get back to my cost basis of $11.40.Again, I must stress that the math isn't too difficult. The decline is easy to calculate. And, the gain is easy to calculate. But, what happens is that we anchor to our starting price, so the recovery feels extra painful. Pain and pleasure are not symmetric.If there is a tiger chasing after you versus a suitcase full of money in front of you, which would motivate the average person to act quickly? Avoiding a certain amount of immediate pain wins over gaining immediate pleasure every time. Studies have demonstrated time and time again that people will do much more to avoid short-term pain than they will to gain short-term pleasure.This is why having a long-term view of an investment is so critical. The more you check your investments, like PLTR, the more likely you are to feel bad. This is true even when the stock is mostly going up, because every tick down is 2-3x more painful than one tick up. Furthermore, this also partially explains why it's critical to have a portfolio that makes you comfortable. In other words, diversification helps to moderate feelings because quite often at least some investments are going up.Putting The \"Loss\" in PerspectiveMy little psychology lesson here is of paramount importance. If you believe that PLTR is a meme stock, then you will be thinking of PLTR as a short-term play. It's quite likely that selling will happen on big dips and it will be painful.On the other hand, if you believe Alex Karp, in that PLTR is a long-term play, then your patience will grow dramatically.Hat Tip to Samuel Smith for clarifying this, in regards to Karp speaking at the World Economic Forum:Given the required scale, scope, and strength of enterprise software products, PLTR typically takes up to 5 years to fully build them. As a result, the true value of PLTR at any point in time is often never fully appreciated until ~5 years down the road. The bright side of this, however, is that due to the length of time required for fully building and implementing a new enterprise software product, they often have even longer durations in the marketplace.I don't think I've ever really made the case that PLTR was a short play. My minimum is nearly always 2-3 years, often much longer. When you buy PLTR, you better plan on holding a long time or you'll almost certainly be selling.Here, let me help you with that using a simple visual.PLTR 30-Day Rolling Volatility data by YChartsThat's volatility and it will shake weak hands, forcing them to sell. That's the fear part of volatility. But keep in mind that volatility also generates greed. When the price is rising like crazy the herd jumps on board:25% PLTR Share Price Gain Without Any Catalysts (Seeking Alpha)No new catalysts? That's not entirely true because we know from the title that this was on the cusp of PLTR's Demo Day. Emotions. Sentiment. Yes, that's absolutely true, and the expectations of the herd itself was the catalyst. Although, to be clear, and fair, there was no tangible catalyst on July 22nd, 2021. In any event, we know PLTR will vacillate. I see no reason why this will not continue so \"Fair Warning!\" is issued again: Here There Be Volatility.Wrap UpMost investors holding PLTR are holding onto a capital loss. The downside is the difficult problem of getting back to even, or even moving into the green. We're all looking to win, right?The upside is that it's now a bit easier to understand PLTR's price action, with a reference to volatility. Furthermore, it's a wee bit more simple to know what it will take to get to even, at least in terms of the financials.What are the catalysts?Q2 2022 tells us quite a bit:Overall Revenue Growth (i.e., $473 million in Q2 2022)Customer Count Increases (e.g., Q2 2022 count up to 304 from 169 YoY)TAM Expansion (i.e., Gotham, Foundry, Apollo all open for expansion)New Products (e.g., Edge AI, HyperAuto, OPIs, Cosmos, Pipeline Builder)Developer Community (e.g., Foundry Docs, APIs public, Content Creators)Of course, I'm still frustrated by stock-based compensation. Just look up some of my PLTR articles. It comes up many times. But, I also note that I expect that to burn down a lot over the next 2-3 years. We'll see.While I do think that PLTR's 30% growth is at risk, I said this too:I believe that PLTR is still a Hold. Furthermore, I would not consider buying unless we see the price dip below $8, although that might not be low enough to get me to pull the trigger. We're in rough waters right now. But, again, I do think this is very unique and special company, that should do well over the very long term.The company isn't going bankrupt, or anything remotely that silly. And, we are below $8 at this time. I'm going to very, very cautiously issue a \"Buy\" of PLTR at this point, for those investors looking to lower their cost basis, and also for those investors who want to tip toe into the company. Tread carefully. Move slowly. Size properly, and be sure to diversify as appropriate for your risk tolerance and portfolio composition.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":14,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}