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11-19

Take profit u say. Now? lol

Palantir: Rally Isn't Over Yet (Rating Upgrade)

11-15

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ Meme. Obviously. What goes up fast will fall very hard

09-20

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ it's gonna shoot up unless Elon says some silly stuff

08-13

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

06-11

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ title says $5.6 B. It is more like $56 B

04-24

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ it should had already factored in the earning call . Likely it will see $150 by this week. But next week... might come back down again after Elon Musk talk nonsense again. Let that sink in!

04-17

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful. Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks. $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$

04-06

And u allow such trash to be posted here ??

Tesla Scraps Low-Cost Car Plans Amid Fierce Chinese EV Competition

03-15

Nope it didn't. It is red

Tesla Shares Gained 1% As Ark Invest Scoops up $35M of Its Stock

02-06

Gg

Tesla's Losing Battle For EV Market Share In Europe Highlights Its Sales Growth Challenge

01-31

Short seller Author?

Tesla: Max Pain Ahead (Rating Downgrade)

2023-11-03

How can Tesla at $600 M currently? Error?

Elon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation

2023-09-28

lol

Wait! Don’t Buy Tesla Stock Before This Crucial Date

2023-07-21

$26!!!? Hahahaha

Tesla's Big Short: Tesla Stock Is Worth Just $26 Per Share

2023-06-16

Here he goes again. Pushing his company down. Can't he just shut up? Lol

Musk: Tesla's Value Is Based Primarily on Autonomy

2023-05-23

This writer is a shorter lol

Tesla Sell Signals Confirmed (Technical Analysis, Downgrade)

2023-04-25

Dead stock

Tesla Shares Drop over 2% in Premarket Trading

2023-04-14

Gary black of cuz says so! Hahhaa

Disappointed With Tesla's Latest 13% Slump? Analyst Sees These 2 Factors Priming Stock For A 740% Surge!

2023-03-23

Nah. It's only worth at max $200.

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2023-03-02

Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.

Tesla Stock Falls 3% As Elon Musk's "Master Plan 3" Is Short on Details

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(NYSE:PLTR) on October 4th, 2024, with my article &#34;Palantir: Considering Taking Profits&#34;, I discussed the common arguments that the stock has reached a point of overvaluation and raised questions about whether or not it made the most sense to simply take profits on my prior gains before share prices encountered a potential reversal to the downside. Ultimately, the conclusion was that prior share price rallies were not yet over-extended and that the common arguments calling for overvaluation with Palantir seem to be missing parts of the broader picture. Since the article was written, the stock has seen another massive rally, and share prices have gained another 65.88% (far outpacing the paltry gain of 2.32% that has been seen in the S&amp;P 500). In part, these incredible price moves have been propelled by major updates that have been seen on the earnings front.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2e6d7d836d67a698fcc0caf285c7631a\" alt=\"Palantir: Quarterly Earnings Figures\" title=\"Palantir: Quarterly Earnings Figures\" tg-width=\"948\" tg-height=\"671\"/><span>Palantir: Quarterly Earnings Figures</span></p><p></p><p>For the third-quarter period, Palantir generated adjusted per-share earnings of $0.10 and this surpassed consensus expectations by more than 11%. Top-line figures for the quarter came in at $726 million, and this performance beat expectations by nearly 3.6%. On an annualized basis, these revenue figures indicated growth rates of 30% and the company saw growth rates of nearly 100.7% in net income figures (at $143.5 million). In describing the company&#39;s quarterly performances, Alex Karp (Palantir CEO) explained:</p><blockquote><p>We absolutely eviscerated this quarter, driven by unrelenting AI demand that won&#39;t slow down. This is a U.S.-driven AI revolution that has taken full hold. The world will be divided between AI haves and have-nots. At Palantir, we plan to power the winners.</p></blockquote><p>Given the strength of the growth rates generated during the third quarter, it is not entirely surprising that guidance for the full-year period has been raised to a range of $2.805-2.809 billion, which is up from the $2.742-2.75 billion range that was released during the prior quarter. If these upwardly revised figures turn out to be accurate, this would indicate annualized revenue growth rates of roughly 26%. As a result, share prices have managed to break above the $60 in bullish trend moves that have likely surprised a large number of stock analysts.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3cf8b85be9362dd2e1971f1fdd211535\" alt=\"Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations\" title=\"Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"490\"/><span>Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings Valuations</span></p><p></p><p>One of the most common arguments that is levied against Palantir is the elevated valuation that can be found in the stock&#39;s forward price-earnings ratio (which currently stands at a lofty 156.35x). If we compare this valuation to competing stocks that can be found in the information technology and cybersecurity industries, we can see that there is certainly some validity to these arguments. Specifically, CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc. (CRWD) is one of the closer names (in terms of forward price-earnings valuations) and is currently trading with a ratio of 94.6x. However, from there, these valuations start to drop off quite dramatically. For example, Palo Alto Networks, Inc. (PANW) is currently trading at 62.84x forward earnings, while Fortinet, Inc. (FTNT) is trading at 42.08x and Okta, Inc. (OKTA) is trading at 29.47x. As we can see in the chart above, Palantir&#39;s forward price-earnings ratio fell quite sharply for the entire 2023 period and has held those lower historical valuations for most of 2024. However, recent upticks have started to become visible, and now this metric has moved above 120x for the first time in nearly two years.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/cccaabc6b23b48d7deee5b2fb63882e8\" alt=\"Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations\" title=\"Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"490\"/><span>Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Sales Valuations</span></p><p></p><p>However, the picture starts to look a bit different when we assess this grouping of stocks based on their forward price-sales ratios (at least, in terms of their recent divergences). Palantir is currently trading at 48.3x forward price-sales, and this figure has really started to spike quite substantially during the second half of 2024. In comparison, CrowdStrike is now trading at 21.64x forward price-sales, and Palo Alto is seen with a ratio of 14.06x. At just 5.097x, Okta is trading at significantly lower valuations, and these readings show that Palantir&#39;s rise might be viewed as excessive as we head toward the end of this year.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0c05cae9e829ebc0130945be10ac5237\" alt=\"Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations\" title=\"Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"490\"/><span>Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Book Valuations</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p>Finally, we will view these stocks based on their respective price-book valuations because this is where the picture starts to look a bit different. Specifically, Palantir is currently trading with a price-book ratio of 29.98x and this is almost the exact same valuation that we are now seeing with CrowdStrike (at 29.58x). Palo Alto Networks is trading slightly lower (at 24.84x) and Okta is currently trading at much lower valuations (at 2.13x). However, Fortinet is now trading with a price-book ratio that is significantly more expensive (at 79.73x), which means that Palantir is no longer the most expensive stock within this industry peer grouping. Using this valuation metric, we can still see that Palantir has risen into the end of 2024, but these changes have been much more subdued when we compare trends in the stock&#39;s price-book ratio to the forward price-earnings and forward price-sales metrics.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/741f638357342eb187b88f2507bed9a2\" alt=\"PLTR: Standard Deviation Price Channels\" title=\"PLTR: Standard Deviation Price Channels\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"622\"/><span>PLTR: Standard Deviation Price Channels</span></p><p></p><p>When looking at the share performances in PLTR that have been seen this year, we can see that the stock really began its forceful move higher on November 4th. These strong rallies help to solidify key support zones, which can now be found at $40.90 (marking the price low from October 31st, 2024). Unfortunately, when a stock is trading near record highs, it can be quite difficult to determine upward price projections because this is an asset that is literally moving into &#34;uncharted territory.&#34; Ultimately, this means that there will be no regions of historical support or resistance that rest above the current all-time high (which is the November 13th, 2024 high of $63.39). However, we do still have tools at our disposal in order to make these types of upward price projections, and my favorite option in this type of scenario is to use standard deviation price channels. As we can see, the stock is currently putting pressure on the +1 standard deviation channel, while the stochastic indicator is trading in oversold territory. This suggests that further rallies could be limited without a period of consolidation near-term. Of course, there is currently strong bullish momentum that continues to support share prices, and this could be enough to propel the stock toward the +2 standard deviation price channel (currently resting near $72 per share).</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/03d7edd4aaa1bba0bbcd02257d5c6afc\" alt=\"PLTR: Key Downside Reversal Pivots\" title=\"PLTR: Key Downside Reversal Pivots\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"622\"/><span>PLTR: Key Downside Reversal Pivots</span></p><p></p><p>For these reasons, I believe that Palantir can still extend further to the topside. Common arguments of overvaluation based on forward price-earnings metrics alone seem to be missing some of the broader picture because the stock&#39;s price-book value is holding at fairly reasonable levels (despite the move higher that we have encountered toward the end of 2024). As a result, I will only be upgrading my outlook to a &#34;buy&#34; rating (rather than a &#34;strong buy&#34;). In order to revise my outlook (and begin to focus more on the neutral direction), I would need to see share prices break through the 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the rally from $40.90 to $66.00 (which is located near $56.40). In order to reverse my outlook (and begin to focus more heavily on the bearish direction), I would need to see share prices break through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement of the aforementioned yearly rally (which rests near the November 5th highs of $51.18). Until (or unless) these downside price moves occur, I will maintain my current long position and raise my rating outlook, based largely on the strong position momentum Palantir has continued to display into the final months of this year.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Rally Isn't Over Yet (Rating Upgrade)</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Rally Isn't Over Yet (Rating Upgrade)\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-19 13:52 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4738286-palantir-technologies-rally-not-over-yet-technical-analysis-rating-upgrade><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryPalantir's stock has surged 65.88% since October 2024, driven by strong earnings and revenue growth, surpassing market expectations.Despite a high forward P/E ratio of 156.35x, Palantir's price...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4738286-palantir-technologies-rally-not-over-yet-technical-analysis-rating-upgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4738286-palantir-technologies-rally-not-over-yet-technical-analysis-rating-upgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1183135571","content_text":"SummaryPalantir's stock has surged 65.88% since October 2024, driven by strong earnings and revenue growth, surpassing market expectations.Despite a high forward P/E ratio of 156.35x, Palantir's price-book ratio of 29.98x is comparable to industry peers, indicating reasonable valuation.Key support levels are at $40.90, with potential upward targets near $72, supported by strong bullish momentum and standard deviation price channels.I upgrade Palantir to a \"buy\" rating, contingent on maintaining momentum and avoiding significant retracements below $56.40 and $51.18.Palantir TechnologiesWhen I last covered Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR) on October 4th, 2024, with my article \"Palantir: Considering Taking Profits\", I discussed the common arguments that the stock has reached a point of overvaluation and raised questions about whether or not it made the most sense to simply take profits on my prior gains before share prices encountered a potential reversal to the downside. Ultimately, the conclusion was that prior share price rallies were not yet over-extended and that the common arguments calling for overvaluation with Palantir seem to be missing parts of the broader picture. Since the article was written, the stock has seen another massive rally, and share prices have gained another 65.88% (far outpacing the paltry gain of 2.32% that has been seen in the S&P 500). In part, these incredible price moves have been propelled by major updates that have been seen on the earnings front.Palantir: Quarterly Earnings FiguresFor the third-quarter period, Palantir generated adjusted per-share earnings of $0.10 and this surpassed consensus expectations by more than 11%. Top-line figures for the quarter came in at $726 million, and this performance beat expectations by nearly 3.6%. On an annualized basis, these revenue figures indicated growth rates of 30% and the company saw growth rates of nearly 100.7% in net income figures (at $143.5 million). In describing the company's quarterly performances, Alex Karp (Palantir CEO) explained:We absolutely eviscerated this quarter, driven by unrelenting AI demand that won't slow down. This is a U.S.-driven AI revolution that has taken full hold. The world will be divided between AI haves and have-nots. At Palantir, we plan to power the winners.Given the strength of the growth rates generated during the third quarter, it is not entirely surprising that guidance for the full-year period has been raised to a range of $2.805-2.809 billion, which is up from the $2.742-2.75 billion range that was released during the prior quarter. If these upwardly revised figures turn out to be accurate, this would indicate annualized revenue growth rates of roughly 26%. As a result, share prices have managed to break above the $60 in bullish trend moves that have likely surprised a large number of stock analysts.Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Earnings ValuationsOne of the most common arguments that is levied against Palantir is the elevated valuation that can be found in the stock's forward price-earnings ratio (which currently stands at a lofty 156.35x). If we compare this valuation to competing stocks that can be found in the information technology and cybersecurity industries, we can see that there is certainly some validity to these arguments. Specifically, CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc. (CRWD) is one of the closer names (in terms of forward price-earnings valuations) and is currently trading with a ratio of 94.6x. However, from there, these valuations start to drop off quite dramatically. For example, Palo Alto Networks, Inc. (PANW) is currently trading at 62.84x forward earnings, while Fortinet, Inc. (FTNT) is trading at 42.08x and Okta, Inc. (OKTA) is trading at 29.47x. As we can see in the chart above, Palantir's forward price-earnings ratio fell quite sharply for the entire 2023 period and has held those lower historical valuations for most of 2024. However, recent upticks have started to become visible, and now this metric has moved above 120x for the first time in nearly two years.Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Sales ValuationsHowever, the picture starts to look a bit different when we assess this grouping of stocks based on their forward price-sales ratios (at least, in terms of their recent divergences). Palantir is currently trading at 48.3x forward price-sales, and this figure has really started to spike quite substantially during the second half of 2024. In comparison, CrowdStrike is now trading at 21.64x forward price-sales, and Palo Alto is seen with a ratio of 14.06x. At just 5.097x, Okta is trading at significantly lower valuations, and these readings show that Palantir's rise might be viewed as excessive as we head toward the end of this year.Palantir: Comparative Forward Price to Book ValuationsFinally, we will view these stocks based on their respective price-book valuations because this is where the picture starts to look a bit different. Specifically, Palantir is currently trading with a price-book ratio of 29.98x and this is almost the exact same valuation that we are now seeing with CrowdStrike (at 29.58x). Palo Alto Networks is trading slightly lower (at 24.84x) and Okta is currently trading at much lower valuations (at 2.13x). However, Fortinet is now trading with a price-book ratio that is significantly more expensive (at 79.73x), which means that Palantir is no longer the most expensive stock within this industry peer grouping. Using this valuation metric, we can still see that Palantir has risen into the end of 2024, but these changes have been much more subdued when we compare trends in the stock's price-book ratio to the forward price-earnings and forward price-sales metrics.PLTR: Standard Deviation Price ChannelsWhen looking at the share performances in PLTR that have been seen this year, we can see that the stock really began its forceful move higher on November 4th. These strong rallies help to solidify key support zones, which can now be found at $40.90 (marking the price low from October 31st, 2024). Unfortunately, when a stock is trading near record highs, it can be quite difficult to determine upward price projections because this is an asset that is literally moving into \"uncharted territory.\" Ultimately, this means that there will be no regions of historical support or resistance that rest above the current all-time high (which is the November 13th, 2024 high of $63.39). However, we do still have tools at our disposal in order to make these types of upward price projections, and my favorite option in this type of scenario is to use standard deviation price channels. As we can see, the stock is currently putting pressure on the +1 standard deviation channel, while the stochastic indicator is trading in oversold territory. This suggests that further rallies could be limited without a period of consolidation near-term. Of course, there is currently strong bullish momentum that continues to support share prices, and this could be enough to propel the stock toward the +2 standard deviation price channel (currently resting near $72 per share).PLTR: Key Downside Reversal PivotsFor these reasons, I believe that Palantir can still extend further to the topside. Common arguments of overvaluation based on forward price-earnings metrics alone seem to be missing some of the broader picture because the stock's price-book value is holding at fairly reasonable levels (despite the move higher that we have encountered toward the end of 2024). As a result, I will only be upgrading my outlook to a \"buy\" rating (rather than a \"strong buy\"). In order to revise my outlook (and begin to focus more on the neutral direction), I would need to see share prices break through the 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the rally from $40.90 to $66.00 (which is located near $56.40). In order to reverse my outlook (and begin to focus more heavily on the bearish direction), I would need to see share prices break through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement of the aforementioned yearly rally (which rests near the November 5th highs of $51.18). Until (or unless) these downside price moves occur, I will maintain my current long position and raise my rating outlook, based largely on the strong position momentum Palantir has continued to display into the final months of this year.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":370978607665496,"gmtCreate":1731610076437,"gmtModify":1731610080625,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a> Meme. Obviously. What goes up fast will fall very hard&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a> Meme. Obviously. What goes up fast will fall very hard&nbsp;","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ Meme. Obviously. What goes up fast will fall very hard","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/370978607665496","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":82,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":351288663109976,"gmtCreate":1726786300544,"gmtModify":1726786305525,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a> it's gonna shoot up unless Elon says some silly stuff","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a> it's gonna shoot up unless Elon says some silly stuff","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ it's gonna shoot up unless Elon says some silly stuff","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/351288663109976","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":66,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":338091213775024,"gmtCreate":1723560920647,"gmtModify":1723560923250,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>&nbsp;","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/338091213775024","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":204,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":315695288873040,"gmtCreate":1718105492921,"gmtModify":1718105496752,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a> title says $5.6 B. It is more like $56 B","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a> title says $5.6 B. It is more like $56 B","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ title says $5.6 B. It is more like $56 B","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/315695288873040","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":268,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":298425439240336,"gmtCreate":1713890283039,"gmtModify":1713890286684,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> it should had already factored in the earning call . Likely it will see $150 by this week. But next week... might come back down again after Elon Musk talk nonsense again. Let that sink in!","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> it should had already factored in the earning call . Likely it will see $150 by this week. But next week... might come back down again after Elon Musk talk nonsense again. Let that sink in!","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ it should had already factored in the earning call . Likely it will see $150 by this week. But next week... might come back down again after Elon Musk talk nonsense again. Let that sink in!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/298425439240336","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":426,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":295949868277800,"gmtCreate":1713283447971,"gmtModify":1713283451950,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"0\"></v-v> I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful.&nbsp; Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks.&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a>&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"0\"></v-v> I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful.&nbsp; Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks.&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a>&nbsp;","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful. Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks. $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/295949868277800","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":343,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":292079439056992,"gmtCreate":1712334372687,"gmtModify":1712369074066,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"And&nbsp; u allow such trash to be posted here ??","listText":"And&nbsp; u allow such trash to be posted here ??","text":"And u allow such trash to be posted here ??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/292079439056992","repostId":"2425593562","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2425593562","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1712330022,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2425593562?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-04-05 23:13","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Scraps Low-Cost Car Plans Amid Fierce Chinese EV Competition","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2425593562","media":"Reuters","summary":"Tesla has canceled the long-promised inexpensive car that investors have been counting on to drive its growth into a mass-market automaker, according to three sources familiar with the matter and company messages seen by Reuters.  The decision represents an abandonment of a longstanding goal that Tesla chief Elon Musk has often characterized as its primary mission: affordable electric cars for the masses.  As recently as January, Musk told investors that Tesla planned to start production of the affordable model at its Texas factory in the second half of 2025, following an exclusive Reuters report detailing those plans.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - Tesla has canceled the long-promised inexpensive car that investors have been counting on to drive its growth into a mass-market automaker, according to three sources familiar with the matter and company messages seen by Reuters.</p><p>Tesla stock fell 4.53% in late morning trading on the news.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8aba5245d63b2cba703d631470a3ce6e\" tg-width=\"778\" tg-height=\"625\"/></p><p>The automaker will continue developing self-driving robotaxis on the same small-vehicle platform, the sources said.</p><p>The decision represents an abandonment of a longstanding goal that Tesla chief Elon Musk has often characterized as its primary mission: affordable electric cars for the masses. His first “master plan” for the company in 2006 called for manufacturing luxury models first, then using the profits to finance a “low cost family car.”</p><p>He has since repeatedly promised such a vehicle to investors and consumers. As recently as January, Musk told investors that Tesla planned to start production of the affordable model at its Texas factory in the second half of 2025, following an exclusive Reuters report detailing those plans.</p><p>Tesla’s cheapest current model, the Model 3 sedan, retails for about $39,000 in the United States. The now-defunct entry-level vehicle, sometimes described as the Model 2, was expected to start at about $25,000.</p><p>Tesla did not respond to requests for comment.</p><p>The stark reversal comes as Tesla faces fierce competition globally from Chinese electric-vehicle makers flooding the market with cars priced as low as $10,000. The plan for driverless robotaxis, which could take longer to deliver, presents a stiffer engineering challenge and more regulatory risk.</p><p>Two sources said they learned of Tesla&#39;s decision to scrap the Model 2 in a meeting attended by scores of employees, with one of them saying the gathering happened in late February.</p><p>“Elon’s directive is to go all in on robotaxi,” that person said.</p><p>The third source confirmed the cancellation and said new plans call for robotaxis to be produced, but in much lower volumes than had been projected for the Model 2.</p><p>Several company messages reviewed by Reuters about the decision included one on March 1 from an unnamed program manager for the affordable car discussing the project’s demise with engineering staff and advising them to hold off on telling suppliers “about program cancellation.”</p><p>A fourth person with knowledge of Tesla’s plans expressed optimism about the decision to pivot away from the cheap-car strategy in favor of robotaxis, a segment Musk has envisioned as the future of mobility. The source cautioned that Tesla’s product plans could change again based on economic conditions.</p><p>Squeezing profits from entry-level vehicles is a challenge for any automaker. But Tesla’s delay in pursuing the car Musk once called his dream made it much tougher because it now faces far more competition in that price range.</p><p>While Tesla spent years developing its highly experimental Cybertruck, a pricey electric pickup, Chinese automakers have raced ahead on affordable EVs, grabbing market share, gaining economies of scale and offering consumers bargain prices that Western automakers are struggling to match.</p><p>As Chinese EVs surged to challenge Tesla’s dominance, Musk was tending to his sprawling empire, which includes rocket-maker SpaceX, brain-chip developer Neuralink, and social media giant X, which Musk acquired in 2022. Formerly called Twitter, the platform has foundered under Musk’s volatile management, shedding most of its value as the company has lost revenue and advertisers.</p><p>Plans for the affordable Tesla have been seen as key to delivering on Musk’s stratospheric ambitions for sales growth. Musk said in 2020 that Tesla aspired by 2030 to sell 20 million vehicles – twice as many as the world’s largest automaker, Toyota, sells today. With the death of the Model 2, it’s unclear how he’ll get there.</p><p>Expectations for a $25,000 vehicle have underpinned Wall Street analysts’ more modest, but still ambitious, forecasts for Tesla sales. Those forecasts, according to a Tesla investor-relations document, call for vehicle sales rising to 4.2 million by 2028 from 1.8 million last year.</p><p>Musk has wavered on the project before. In a biography of the entrepreneur released last year, author Walter Issacson reported that Musk in 2022 “put a hold on” the entry-level EV plans, reasoning that a Tesla robotaxi would make the car irrelevant. Musk’s advisors urged him to stay the course, the book said.</p><p>‘HALT ALL FURTHER ACTIVITIES’</p><p>Tesla called the affordable-car project NV91 internally and H422 externally when discussing it with suppliers, according to two of the sources and company messages reviewed by Reuters.</p><p>Messages from the unnamed Tesla program manager to staffers referenced those code names in discussing the project’s termination. One of those messages sent March 1 said that “suppliers should halt all further activities related to H422/NV91.”</p><p>The sources said they did not know all the reasons behind the decision to kill the project.</p><p>In another March 1 message, the manager thanked engineering staffers for their efforts and urged them to document what they had learned.</p><p>“I’d like to thank everyone for all your hard work and dedication to pushing boundaries and executing the best design possible given the aggressive constraints we had to work within,” the message said. “We would not want all our hard work to go to waste, so it’s important that we tie things off and document things properly.”</p><p>The messages showed meetings on the affordable-car project being canceled. The two sources said some engineers have been reassigned.</p><p>Tesla’s timeline and business model for robotaxis remain unclear. Musk has publicly predicted a future of mobility in which driverless taxis could eventually become a more common mode of transport than human-driven cars. He has said Tesla, the world’s most valuable automaker, would be &#34;worth basically zero&#34; without achieving full self-driving capability.</p><p>Currently, self-driving cars have only been approved by U.S. and Chinese regulators for tightly limited, experimental use on public roads.</p><p>Tesla has yet to prove it can produce an autonomous car despite years of predictions by Musk that one was just around the corner, an expectation that partly underpinned Tesla’s soaring valuation. The automaker faces lawsuits and investigations into crashes involving its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving driver-assistance systems, which are not fully autonomous. Tesla has blamed the accidents on inattentive drivers.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s Autopilot woes are among a number of problems that have drawn scrutiny. The automaker faces another investigation into the driving-range estimates of its cars, launched after Reuters reported last year that Tesla had rigged the in-dash range meters in its vehicles to give rosy projections. Reuters reported in December that the automaker blamed “driver abuse” for chronic failures of suspension and steering parts it long knew were defective.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s image as a climate-friendly innovator has also suffered with Musk’s tilt toward right-wing politics and polarizing public statements, which have turned away some prospective Tesla buyers, according to surveys and experts.</p><p>The automaker reported an 8% year-over-year drop in deliveries on Tuesday, just after its chief Chinese competitor, BYD, reported a 13% gain. Tesla shares dropped 5% on the news, deepening a slide of more than 40% since last July, amounting to a loss of about $400 billion in market value.</p><p>Still, Tesla’s market capitalization of $545 billion is higher than the combined worth of the next three most valuable carmakers, Toyota, Porsche and Mercedes-Benz. Tesla’s stock value has long been based on future expectations for mass-market sales and driverless cars rather than its current sales and profits.</p><p>RUNNING LATE</p><p>The affordable-car project’s cancellation comes as Tesla and other established automakers have been rocked by slowing EV demand growth in the United States and Europe, and cut-throat competition in China.</p><p>If Tesla had moved forward with the low-cost car, it wouldn’t have arrived on the market until the latter half of 2025, by the company’s estimate. But the entry-level EV segment is already crowded with compelling models from BYD and many other Chinese brands.</p><p>Tesla is late to the segment in part because of a pivotal decision by Musk. In 2020, after releasing its hit crossover, the Model Y, Tesla focused on the highly experimental Cybertruck instead of an affordable car.</p><p>Musk unveiled a prototype of the angular, stainless steel-clad truck in 2019 and predicted a starting price of about $40,000. The vehicle finally arrived last year as a 2024 model. The two versions available now start at about $80,000 and $100,000. Tesla says a lower-end Cybertruck costing about $61,000 won&#39;t be ready for delivery until 2025.</p><p>The company has also struggled to work through manufacturing problems, particularly with the truck&#39;s pioneering battery technology. Musk hopes to sell the vehicle in high volumes but warned investors last fall about &#34;enormous challenges&#34; ramping up production and making the vehicle profitable.</p><p>&#34;We dug our own grave with the Cybertruck,&#34; he said.</p><p>During the same period, BYD has seen its electric-vehicle sales soar in China, growing from about 130,000 to more than 1.5 million, not including its thriving business in plug-in hybrids or its fast-growing exports.</p><p>BYD already offers a slew of low- and mid-range models, including its Seagull hatchback for less than $10,000. The Chinese automaker now plans to export that car for more than double that price - but still lower than the target for the cheap car Tesla had planned to build.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Scraps Low-Cost Car Plans Amid Fierce Chinese EV Competition</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Scraps Low-Cost Car Plans Amid Fierce Chinese EV Competition\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-04-05 23:13</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - Tesla has canceled the long-promised inexpensive car that investors have been counting on to drive its growth into a mass-market automaker, according to three sources familiar with the matter and company messages seen by Reuters.</p><p>Tesla stock fell 4.53% in late morning trading on the news.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8aba5245d63b2cba703d631470a3ce6e\" tg-width=\"778\" tg-height=\"625\"/></p><p>The automaker will continue developing self-driving robotaxis on the same small-vehicle platform, the sources said.</p><p>The decision represents an abandonment of a longstanding goal that Tesla chief Elon Musk has often characterized as its primary mission: affordable electric cars for the masses. His first “master plan” for the company in 2006 called for manufacturing luxury models first, then using the profits to finance a “low cost family car.”</p><p>He has since repeatedly promised such a vehicle to investors and consumers. As recently as January, Musk told investors that Tesla planned to start production of the affordable model at its Texas factory in the second half of 2025, following an exclusive Reuters report detailing those plans.</p><p>Tesla’s cheapest current model, the Model 3 sedan, retails for about $39,000 in the United States. The now-defunct entry-level vehicle, sometimes described as the Model 2, was expected to start at about $25,000.</p><p>Tesla did not respond to requests for comment.</p><p>The stark reversal comes as Tesla faces fierce competition globally from Chinese electric-vehicle makers flooding the market with cars priced as low as $10,000. The plan for driverless robotaxis, which could take longer to deliver, presents a stiffer engineering challenge and more regulatory risk.</p><p>Two sources said they learned of Tesla&#39;s decision to scrap the Model 2 in a meeting attended by scores of employees, with one of them saying the gathering happened in late February.</p><p>“Elon’s directive is to go all in on robotaxi,” that person said.</p><p>The third source confirmed the cancellation and said new plans call for robotaxis to be produced, but in much lower volumes than had been projected for the Model 2.</p><p>Several company messages reviewed by Reuters about the decision included one on March 1 from an unnamed program manager for the affordable car discussing the project’s demise with engineering staff and advising them to hold off on telling suppliers “about program cancellation.”</p><p>A fourth person with knowledge of Tesla’s plans expressed optimism about the decision to pivot away from the cheap-car strategy in favor of robotaxis, a segment Musk has envisioned as the future of mobility. The source cautioned that Tesla’s product plans could change again based on economic conditions.</p><p>Squeezing profits from entry-level vehicles is a challenge for any automaker. But Tesla’s delay in pursuing the car Musk once called his dream made it much tougher because it now faces far more competition in that price range.</p><p>While Tesla spent years developing its highly experimental Cybertruck, a pricey electric pickup, Chinese automakers have raced ahead on affordable EVs, grabbing market share, gaining economies of scale and offering consumers bargain prices that Western automakers are struggling to match.</p><p>As Chinese EVs surged to challenge Tesla’s dominance, Musk was tending to his sprawling empire, which includes rocket-maker SpaceX, brain-chip developer Neuralink, and social media giant X, which Musk acquired in 2022. Formerly called Twitter, the platform has foundered under Musk’s volatile management, shedding most of its value as the company has lost revenue and advertisers.</p><p>Plans for the affordable Tesla have been seen as key to delivering on Musk’s stratospheric ambitions for sales growth. Musk said in 2020 that Tesla aspired by 2030 to sell 20 million vehicles – twice as many as the world’s largest automaker, Toyota, sells today. With the death of the Model 2, it’s unclear how he’ll get there.</p><p>Expectations for a $25,000 vehicle have underpinned Wall Street analysts’ more modest, but still ambitious, forecasts for Tesla sales. Those forecasts, according to a Tesla investor-relations document, call for vehicle sales rising to 4.2 million by 2028 from 1.8 million last year.</p><p>Musk has wavered on the project before. In a biography of the entrepreneur released last year, author Walter Issacson reported that Musk in 2022 “put a hold on” the entry-level EV plans, reasoning that a Tesla robotaxi would make the car irrelevant. Musk’s advisors urged him to stay the course, the book said.</p><p>‘HALT ALL FURTHER ACTIVITIES’</p><p>Tesla called the affordable-car project NV91 internally and H422 externally when discussing it with suppliers, according to two of the sources and company messages reviewed by Reuters.</p><p>Messages from the unnamed Tesla program manager to staffers referenced those code names in discussing the project’s termination. One of those messages sent March 1 said that “suppliers should halt all further activities related to H422/NV91.”</p><p>The sources said they did not know all the reasons behind the decision to kill the project.</p><p>In another March 1 message, the manager thanked engineering staffers for their efforts and urged them to document what they had learned.</p><p>“I’d like to thank everyone for all your hard work and dedication to pushing boundaries and executing the best design possible given the aggressive constraints we had to work within,” the message said. “We would not want all our hard work to go to waste, so it’s important that we tie things off and document things properly.”</p><p>The messages showed meetings on the affordable-car project being canceled. The two sources said some engineers have been reassigned.</p><p>Tesla’s timeline and business model for robotaxis remain unclear. Musk has publicly predicted a future of mobility in which driverless taxis could eventually become a more common mode of transport than human-driven cars. He has said Tesla, the world’s most valuable automaker, would be &#34;worth basically zero&#34; without achieving full self-driving capability.</p><p>Currently, self-driving cars have only been approved by U.S. and Chinese regulators for tightly limited, experimental use on public roads.</p><p>Tesla has yet to prove it can produce an autonomous car despite years of predictions by Musk that one was just around the corner, an expectation that partly underpinned Tesla’s soaring valuation. The automaker faces lawsuits and investigations into crashes involving its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving driver-assistance systems, which are not fully autonomous. Tesla has blamed the accidents on inattentive drivers.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s Autopilot woes are among a number of problems that have drawn scrutiny. The automaker faces another investigation into the driving-range estimates of its cars, launched after Reuters reported last year that Tesla had rigged the in-dash range meters in its vehicles to give rosy projections. Reuters reported in December that the automaker blamed “driver abuse” for chronic failures of suspension and steering parts it long knew were defective.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s image as a climate-friendly innovator has also suffered with Musk’s tilt toward right-wing politics and polarizing public statements, which have turned away some prospective Tesla buyers, according to surveys and experts.</p><p>The automaker reported an 8% year-over-year drop in deliveries on Tuesday, just after its chief Chinese competitor, BYD, reported a 13% gain. Tesla shares dropped 5% on the news, deepening a slide of more than 40% since last July, amounting to a loss of about $400 billion in market value.</p><p>Still, Tesla’s market capitalization of $545 billion is higher than the combined worth of the next three most valuable carmakers, Toyota, Porsche and Mercedes-Benz. Tesla’s stock value has long been based on future expectations for mass-market sales and driverless cars rather than its current sales and profits.</p><p>RUNNING LATE</p><p>The affordable-car project’s cancellation comes as Tesla and other established automakers have been rocked by slowing EV demand growth in the United States and Europe, and cut-throat competition in China.</p><p>If Tesla had moved forward with the low-cost car, it wouldn’t have arrived on the market until the latter half of 2025, by the company’s estimate. But the entry-level EV segment is already crowded with compelling models from BYD and many other Chinese brands.</p><p>Tesla is late to the segment in part because of a pivotal decision by Musk. In 2020, after releasing its hit crossover, the Model Y, Tesla focused on the highly experimental Cybertruck instead of an affordable car.</p><p>Musk unveiled a prototype of the angular, stainless steel-clad truck in 2019 and predicted a starting price of about $40,000. The vehicle finally arrived last year as a 2024 model. The two versions available now start at about $80,000 and $100,000. Tesla says a lower-end Cybertruck costing about $61,000 won&#39;t be ready for delivery until 2025.</p><p>The company has also struggled to work through manufacturing problems, particularly with the truck&#39;s pioneering battery technology. Musk hopes to sell the vehicle in high volumes but warned investors last fall about &#34;enormous challenges&#34; ramping up production and making the vehicle profitable.</p><p>&#34;We dug our own grave with the Cybertruck,&#34; he said.</p><p>During the same period, BYD has seen its electric-vehicle sales soar in China, growing from about 130,000 to more than 1.5 million, not including its thriving business in plug-in hybrids or its fast-growing exports.</p><p>BYD already offers a slew of low- and mid-range models, including its Seagull hatchback for less than $10,000. The Chinese automaker now plans to export that car for more than double that price - but still lower than the target for the cheap car Tesla had planned to build.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://sg.news.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-tesla-scraps-low-cost-150726195.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2425593562","content_text":"(Reuters) - Tesla has canceled the long-promised inexpensive car that investors have been counting on to drive its growth into a mass-market automaker, according to three sources familiar with the matter and company messages seen by Reuters.Tesla stock fell 4.53% in late morning trading on the news.The automaker will continue developing self-driving robotaxis on the same small-vehicle platform, the sources said.The decision represents an abandonment of a longstanding goal that Tesla chief Elon Musk has often characterized as its primary mission: affordable electric cars for the masses. His first “master plan” for the company in 2006 called for manufacturing luxury models first, then using the profits to finance a “low cost family car.”He has since repeatedly promised such a vehicle to investors and consumers. As recently as January, Musk told investors that Tesla planned to start production of the affordable model at its Texas factory in the second half of 2025, following an exclusive Reuters report detailing those plans.Tesla’s cheapest current model, the Model 3 sedan, retails for about $39,000 in the United States. The now-defunct entry-level vehicle, sometimes described as the Model 2, was expected to start at about $25,000.Tesla did not respond to requests for comment.The stark reversal comes as Tesla faces fierce competition globally from Chinese electric-vehicle makers flooding the market with cars priced as low as $10,000. The plan for driverless robotaxis, which could take longer to deliver, presents a stiffer engineering challenge and more regulatory risk.Two sources said they learned of Tesla's decision to scrap the Model 2 in a meeting attended by scores of employees, with one of them saying the gathering happened in late February.“Elon’s directive is to go all in on robotaxi,” that person said.The third source confirmed the cancellation and said new plans call for robotaxis to be produced, but in much lower volumes than had been projected for the Model 2.Several company messages reviewed by Reuters about the decision included one on March 1 from an unnamed program manager for the affordable car discussing the project’s demise with engineering staff and advising them to hold off on telling suppliers “about program cancellation.”A fourth person with knowledge of Tesla’s plans expressed optimism about the decision to pivot away from the cheap-car strategy in favor of robotaxis, a segment Musk has envisioned as the future of mobility. The source cautioned that Tesla’s product plans could change again based on economic conditions.Squeezing profits from entry-level vehicles is a challenge for any automaker. But Tesla’s delay in pursuing the car Musk once called his dream made it much tougher because it now faces far more competition in that price range.While Tesla spent years developing its highly experimental Cybertruck, a pricey electric pickup, Chinese automakers have raced ahead on affordable EVs, grabbing market share, gaining economies of scale and offering consumers bargain prices that Western automakers are struggling to match.As Chinese EVs surged to challenge Tesla’s dominance, Musk was tending to his sprawling empire, which includes rocket-maker SpaceX, brain-chip developer Neuralink, and social media giant X, which Musk acquired in 2022. Formerly called Twitter, the platform has foundered under Musk’s volatile management, shedding most of its value as the company has lost revenue and advertisers.Plans for the affordable Tesla have been seen as key to delivering on Musk’s stratospheric ambitions for sales growth. Musk said in 2020 that Tesla aspired by 2030 to sell 20 million vehicles – twice as many as the world’s largest automaker, Toyota, sells today. With the death of the Model 2, it’s unclear how he’ll get there.Expectations for a $25,000 vehicle have underpinned Wall Street analysts’ more modest, but still ambitious, forecasts for Tesla sales. Those forecasts, according to a Tesla investor-relations document, call for vehicle sales rising to 4.2 million by 2028 from 1.8 million last year.Musk has wavered on the project before. In a biography of the entrepreneur released last year, author Walter Issacson reported that Musk in 2022 “put a hold on” the entry-level EV plans, reasoning that a Tesla robotaxi would make the car irrelevant. Musk’s advisors urged him to stay the course, the book said.‘HALT ALL FURTHER ACTIVITIES’Tesla called the affordable-car project NV91 internally and H422 externally when discussing it with suppliers, according to two of the sources and company messages reviewed by Reuters.Messages from the unnamed Tesla program manager to staffers referenced those code names in discussing the project’s termination. One of those messages sent March 1 said that “suppliers should halt all further activities related to H422/NV91.”The sources said they did not know all the reasons behind the decision to kill the project.In another March 1 message, the manager thanked engineering staffers for their efforts and urged them to document what they had learned.“I’d like to thank everyone for all your hard work and dedication to pushing boundaries and executing the best design possible given the aggressive constraints we had to work within,” the message said. “We would not want all our hard work to go to waste, so it’s important that we tie things off and document things properly.”The messages showed meetings on the affordable-car project being canceled. The two sources said some engineers have been reassigned.Tesla’s timeline and business model for robotaxis remain unclear. Musk has publicly predicted a future of mobility in which driverless taxis could eventually become a more common mode of transport than human-driven cars. He has said Tesla, the world’s most valuable automaker, would be \"worth basically zero\" without achieving full self-driving capability.Currently, self-driving cars have only been approved by U.S. and Chinese regulators for tightly limited, experimental use on public roads.Tesla has yet to prove it can produce an autonomous car despite years of predictions by Musk that one was just around the corner, an expectation that partly underpinned Tesla’s soaring valuation. The automaker faces lawsuits and investigations into crashes involving its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving driver-assistance systems, which are not fully autonomous. Tesla has blamed the accidents on inattentive drivers.Tesla's Autopilot woes are among a number of problems that have drawn scrutiny. The automaker faces another investigation into the driving-range estimates of its cars, launched after Reuters reported last year that Tesla had rigged the in-dash range meters in its vehicles to give rosy projections. Reuters reported in December that the automaker blamed “driver abuse” for chronic failures of suspension and steering parts it long knew were defective.Tesla's image as a climate-friendly innovator has also suffered with Musk’s tilt toward right-wing politics and polarizing public statements, which have turned away some prospective Tesla buyers, according to surveys and experts.The automaker reported an 8% year-over-year drop in deliveries on Tuesday, just after its chief Chinese competitor, BYD, reported a 13% gain. Tesla shares dropped 5% on the news, deepening a slide of more than 40% since last July, amounting to a loss of about $400 billion in market value.Still, Tesla’s market capitalization of $545 billion is higher than the combined worth of the next three most valuable carmakers, Toyota, Porsche and Mercedes-Benz. Tesla’s stock value has long been based on future expectations for mass-market sales and driverless cars rather than its current sales and profits.RUNNING LATEThe affordable-car project’s cancellation comes as Tesla and other established automakers have been rocked by slowing EV demand growth in the United States and Europe, and cut-throat competition in China.If Tesla had moved forward with the low-cost car, it wouldn’t have arrived on the market until the latter half of 2025, by the company’s estimate. But the entry-level EV segment is already crowded with compelling models from BYD and many other Chinese brands.Tesla is late to the segment in part because of a pivotal decision by Musk. In 2020, after releasing its hit crossover, the Model Y, Tesla focused on the highly experimental Cybertruck instead of an affordable car.Musk unveiled a prototype of the angular, stainless steel-clad truck in 2019 and predicted a starting price of about $40,000. The vehicle finally arrived last year as a 2024 model. The two versions available now start at about $80,000 and $100,000. Tesla says a lower-end Cybertruck costing about $61,000 won't be ready for delivery until 2025.The company has also struggled to work through manufacturing problems, particularly with the truck's pioneering battery technology. Musk hopes to sell the vehicle in high volumes but warned investors last fall about \"enormous challenges\" ramping up production and making the vehicle profitable.\"We dug our own grave with the Cybertruck,\" he said.During the same period, BYD has seen its electric-vehicle sales soar in China, growing from about 130,000 to more than 1.5 million, not including its thriving business in plug-in hybrids or its fast-growing exports.BYD already offers a slew of low- and mid-range models, including its Seagull hatchback for less than $10,000. 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It is red","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/284667526971616","repostId":"1172210046","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1172210046","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1710489939,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1172210046?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-03-15 16:05","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Shares Gained 1% As Ark Invest Scoops up $35M of Its Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1172210046","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Tesla shares gained 0.9% as Ark Invest scoops up $35m of its stock.Tesla, Inc. shares have beenon a downward spiralthis year amid worries about the EV giant potentially missing first-quarter delivery ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla shares gained 1% as Ark Invest scoops up $35m of its stock.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0fb4c0920f429c3f7dc1643b1738af3a\" tg-width=\"852\" tg-height=\"838\"/></p><p><strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> shares have been on a downward spiral this year amid worries about the EV giant potentially missing first-quarter delivery targets. Undeterred by the recent weakness, <strong>Cathie Wood</strong>‘s <strong>Ark Investment Management</strong> actively bought Tesla shares on Thursday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Ark’s Pile-Up: </strong>Ark purchased a total of 216,682 Tesla shares across three of its actively managed exchange-traded funds on Thursday. The purchase, valued at $35.21 million based on Tesla’s closing price of $162.50, is broken down as follows:</p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p>Ark Innovation ETF (ARKK): 161,956 shares</p></li><li><p>ARK Autonomous Technology &amp; Robotics ETF (ARKQ): 18,543 shares</p></li><li><p>Ark Next Generation Internet ETF (ARKW): 36,183 shares</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Tesla Faces Headwinds</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla’s stock has been on a broader downtrend since late 2021, with the decline accelerating since mid-2023. This can be attributed to several factors:</p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p><strong>EV market slowdown:</strong> The overall electric vehicle market is experiencing a slowdown.</p></li><li><p><strong>Rising interest rates:</strong> Higher interest rates are generally negative for growth stocks like Tesla.</p></li><li><p><strong>Strategic concerns:</strong> Investors are concerned about a lack of transparency in communication, the absence of a low-end vehicle in Tesla’s product lineup, and recent aggressive price cuts.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst Downgrades and Short Positions</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Adding to the pressure, Wall Street analysts are increasingly lowering their delivery estimates for Tesla in the first quarter, suggesting their initial forecasts might have been overly optimistic.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Furthermore, some prominent investors are taking a bearish stance. Longtime Tesla supporter and investor <strong>Kevin Paffrath</strong> recently announced shorting the stock, predicting a near-term drop to $148 or even $101. Additionally, <strong>Gary Black</strong> of <strong>Future Fund</strong> has significantly reduced his fund’s Tesla holdings.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Wood Remains Bullish: </strong>In contrast to the prevailing bearish sentiment, Wood maintains a largely bullish outlook on Tesla and its long-term potential. Tesla remains the third-largest holding in her flagship ARKK fund, accounting for 7.36% of its portfolio with a value of $574.88 million.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Other analysts, such as Wedbush’s <strong>Daniel Ives</strong>, also remain optimistic, pinning their hopes on advancements in AI technology to provide a boost to Tesla shares in the coming years.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Shares Gained 1% As Ark Invest Scoops up $35M of Its Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Shares Gained 1% As Ark Invest Scoops up $35M of Its Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-03-15 16:05</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla shares gained 1% as Ark Invest scoops up $35m of its stock.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0fb4c0920f429c3f7dc1643b1738af3a\" tg-width=\"852\" tg-height=\"838\"/></p><p><strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> shares have been on a downward spiral this year amid worries about the EV giant potentially missing first-quarter delivery targets. Undeterred by the recent weakness, <strong>Cathie Wood</strong>‘s <strong>Ark Investment Management</strong> actively bought Tesla shares on Thursday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Ark’s Pile-Up: </strong>Ark purchased a total of 216,682 Tesla shares across three of its actively managed exchange-traded funds on Thursday. The purchase, valued at $35.21 million based on Tesla’s closing price of $162.50, is broken down as follows:</p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p>Ark Innovation ETF (ARKK): 161,956 shares</p></li><li><p>ARK Autonomous Technology &amp; Robotics ETF (ARKQ): 18,543 shares</p></li><li><p>Ark Next Generation Internet ETF (ARKW): 36,183 shares</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Tesla Faces Headwinds</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla’s stock has been on a broader downtrend since late 2021, with the decline accelerating since mid-2023. This can be attributed to several factors:</p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p><strong>EV market slowdown:</strong> The overall electric vehicle market is experiencing a slowdown.</p></li><li><p><strong>Rising interest rates:</strong> Higher interest rates are generally negative for growth stocks like Tesla.</p></li><li><p><strong>Strategic concerns:</strong> Investors are concerned about a lack of transparency in communication, the absence of a low-end vehicle in Tesla’s product lineup, and recent aggressive price cuts.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst Downgrades and Short Positions</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Adding to the pressure, Wall Street analysts are increasingly lowering their delivery estimates for Tesla in the first quarter, suggesting their initial forecasts might have been overly optimistic.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Furthermore, some prominent investors are taking a bearish stance. Longtime Tesla supporter and investor <strong>Kevin Paffrath</strong> recently announced shorting the stock, predicting a near-term drop to $148 or even $101. Additionally, <strong>Gary Black</strong> of <strong>Future Fund</strong> has significantly reduced his fund’s Tesla holdings.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Wood Remains Bullish: </strong>In contrast to the prevailing bearish sentiment, Wood maintains a largely bullish outlook on Tesla and its long-term potential. Tesla remains the third-largest holding in her flagship ARKK fund, accounting for 7.36% of its portfolio with a value of $574.88 million.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Other analysts, such as Wedbush’s <strong>Daniel Ives</strong>, also remain optimistic, pinning their hopes on advancements in AI technology to provide a boost to Tesla shares in the coming years.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1172210046","content_text":"Tesla shares gained 1% as Ark Invest scoops up $35m of its stock.Tesla, Inc. shares have been on a downward spiral this year amid worries about the EV giant potentially missing first-quarter delivery targets. Undeterred by the recent weakness, Cathie Wood‘s Ark Investment Management actively bought Tesla shares on Thursday.Ark’s Pile-Up: Ark purchased a total of 216,682 Tesla shares across three of its actively managed exchange-traded funds on Thursday. The purchase, valued at $35.21 million based on Tesla’s closing price of $162.50, is broken down as follows:Ark Innovation ETF (ARKK): 161,956 sharesARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF (ARKQ): 18,543 sharesArk Next Generation Internet ETF (ARKW): 36,183 sharesTesla Faces HeadwindsTesla’s stock has been on a broader downtrend since late 2021, with the decline accelerating since mid-2023. This can be attributed to several factors:EV market slowdown: The overall electric vehicle market is experiencing a slowdown.Rising interest rates: Higher interest rates are generally negative for growth stocks like Tesla.Strategic concerns: Investors are concerned about a lack of transparency in communication, the absence of a low-end vehicle in Tesla’s product lineup, and recent aggressive price cuts.Analyst Downgrades and Short PositionsAdding to the pressure, Wall Street analysts are increasingly lowering their delivery estimates for Tesla in the first quarter, suggesting their initial forecasts might have been overly optimistic.Furthermore, some prominent investors are taking a bearish stance. Longtime Tesla supporter and investor Kevin Paffrath recently announced shorting the stock, predicting a near-term drop to $148 or even $101. Additionally, Gary Black of Future Fund has significantly reduced his fund’s Tesla holdings.Wood Remains Bullish: In contrast to the prevailing bearish sentiment, Wood maintains a largely bullish outlook on Tesla and its long-term potential. Tesla remains the third-largest holding in her flagship ARKK fund, accounting for 7.36% of its portfolio with a value of $574.88 million.Other analysts, such as Wedbush’s Daniel Ives, also remain optimistic, pinning their hopes on advancements in AI technology to provide a boost to Tesla shares in the coming years.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":363,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":270967438856328,"gmtCreate":1707192099753,"gmtModify":1707192104173,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Gg","listText":"Gg","text":"Gg","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/270967438856328","repostId":"2409607804","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2409607804","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1707191020,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2409607804?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-02-06 11:43","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla's Losing Battle For EV Market Share In Europe Highlights Its Sales Growth Challenge","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2409607804","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Tesla's Q4 results indicate that its era of fast sales growth is over. An analysis of the European market explains why sales growth is slowing and where things are likely headed.Tesla's emerging probl","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s Q4 results indicate that its era of fast sales growth is over.  An analysis of the European market explains why sales growth is slowing and where things are likely headed.</p></li><li><p>Tesla&#39;s emerging problem in Europe is arguably its decision to manufacture in Germany, which is an increasingly expensive place to do business, while its German &amp; Asian competitors are flocking to Hungary.</p></li><li><p>Tesla is likely to continue losing EV market share in Europe, as its competitors are positioning themselves to produce EVs at a lower cost.</p></li><li><p>I expect its shares to be range-bound between $100/share and $300/share for the foreseeable future, therefore, $150/share or below should be considered a good entry point.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0e94c2a45c7301b8ea00c807d826e5dd\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"563\"/></p><p>Xiaolu Chu</p><p><strong>Investment thesis:</strong> Having established itself as a dominant, profitable EV producer, Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) recently moved on to the next phase in its competition with emerging EV producers, namely an increasingly brutal fight for market share. With the backing of solid profit margins, it can afford to undercut competitors, especially in the Developed World, most of which are still struggling to produce &amp; sell EVs at a profit. Europe might emerge as an exception, where Tesla bet on producing its cars in Germany, while much of its German &amp; Chinese competition is building up capacity in Hungary where there is a clear comparative advantage in labor, energy, and government taxation costs. Lower production costs mean those companies that are investing heavily in EV production capacity in Hungary and other Eastern EU states, are increasingly in a position to engage in price discounting to counter anything that Tesla may try to do. Tesla is losing ground to its competition in Europe within the EV market this decade and it may continue to do so going forward. Using the European market as a case study, we can conclude that Tesla&#39;s future outlook in terms of sales looks set to be one of moderate growth, which does not support current P/E valuations. As such, I see Tesla stock trading in the $100/share to $300/share range for the foreseeable future.</p><h2 id=\"id_1309905219\">Tesla&#39;s Q4 results:</h2><p>For the fourth quarter of 2023, Tesla saw an increase in revenues of 3%, to $25.17 billion. It is nowhere near the growth levels one might expect from a company that currently has a forward P/E ratio of about 60, in other words, about two and a half times higher than the S&amp;P index. The net income attributable to shareholders increased by 115%, to $7.93 billion, which does partially justify continuing to have Tesla stock trading at a P/E ratio that is priced for growth. It should also be noted that profit margins were healthy, with net earnings at 31.5% of revenues. It is an enviable level of profitability, even as many car companies are still trying to figure out how to profitable sell EVs.</p><p>Growth in vehicle deliveries was significant, with a 13% increase in deliveries in Q4, 2023, compared with Q4, 2022. The reason why it did not translate into a corresponding increase in revenues is in large part due to a decline in the average price of Tesla cars sold. One factor was Tesla&#39;s policy of discounting its cars to start fighting for market share.</p><h2 id=\"id_992608232\">How Tesla compares to peers in terms of EV market share in Europe:</h2><p>Tesla is currently far from being the most dominant EV maker &amp; seller in Europe.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ac6840add1d1bebfcbadc9bd2c66e8fe\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\"/></p><p>Data source: InsideEVs</p><p>It is notably beating European luxury carmakers like Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGYY) &amp; BMW (OTCPK:BMWYY), both of which I expected to do a lot better in the EV sector, given that they are already catering to the same income demographic that tends to buy EVs. Both of those companies are in the process of taking part in what is shaping up to become a marriage made in Hungary, between European carmakers and Asian EV battery producers, which they hope to help them conquer the European EV market.</p><h2 id=\"id_3767111978\">Tesla&#39;s potential production cost disadvantage in Europe, as competitors flock to more cost-effective places.</h2><p>Hungary is emerging as a world leader in EV battery production, thanks to Asian investments and it is also seeing massive inflows of investments in EV assembly plants.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1233a735987e2b442441687f155a5cde\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"342\"/></p><p>Visual Capitalist</p><p>With new investments such as CATL in the pipeline, Hungary will probably maintain its role as Europe&#39;s largest EV battery producer for the foreseeable future, and with that, it will also play a significant role as an EV manufacturing hub. None of this happened accidentally. Hungary offers significant advantages, especially for manufacturing enterprises.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Corporate taxes.</p></li></ul><p>Hungary&#39;s current corporate tax rate is the lowest in the EU, while Germany&#39;s is the second-highest in Europe.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a660b9f55f712607baf3c19e2cb96d7\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"477\"/></p><p>Tax Foundation</p><p>It is difficult to quantify just how great of an impact corporate tax rates will have on producing and selling an EV. We should keep in mind that those lower corporate tax rates work their way through the entire supply chain that supports the final assembly of EVs.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Energy costs.</p></li></ul><p>Hungary is one of the lower-cost places in terms of energy prices, while Germany is among the highest in the non-household segment of the economy.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0412959ad59d4e5f8d5bdf8991fa1357\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"433\"/></p><p>EC</p><p>The difference in electricity costs for non-household consumers may not be great, but it is yet another cost advantage that German car manufacturers, as well as now BYD (OTCPK:BYDDF) are looking to take advantage of. These costs also work throughout the supply chain.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Labor costs.</p></li></ul><p>When most people think of outsourcing, within the European context from Western Europe toward the Eastern part of the EU, labor costs tend to come to mind instantly. There is no significant advantage that Hungary has over its immediate neighbors, such as Slovakia or Romania in this regard. Average gross wages in Hungary are about 3 times lower than they are in Germany. That is a significant difference. It is hard to accurately quantify what all these savings mean for Germany&#39;s automakers, in particular when it comes to producing EVs at a cost advantage relative to Tesla. A decade-old estimate from Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGAF) suggests that at least back then the savings per vehicle produced in Hungary were as high as 30% of total production costs. Much has changed since then, including a narrowing in the wage gap. On the other hand, energy prices increased more dramatically in Germany over the past few years.</p><h2 id=\"id_3913002019\">German EV manufacturers to produce models that directly compete with Tesla models in Hungary. BYD joins the trend.</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>BMW&#39;s Hungary EV &amp; new generation battery plant.</p></li></ul><p>BMW is set to produce some of the models that compete with Tesla&#39;s Model Y at its new plant in Hungary by the end of next year. A successor to the BMW iX3 is one of the models that BMW plans to produce there. The successor version of the model will feature BMW&#39;s in-house battery, which is supposed to provide 30% faster charging, as well as up to 30% more range. Its current range of 240 miles could thus get a significant boost that will take it above 300 miles. It remains to be seen whether or not the price will also be lowered. It currently sells at just under $90,000 for the base model, versus Tesla&#39;s model Y which sells at a starting price of $46,000. BMW has a long way to go to close that price gap, but it is possible that with the cost savings related to producing its cars in Hungary, it will be able to significantly lower the price, even as it improves on performance.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Mercedes &amp; Audi have a long-established presence in Hungary that is now being retooled for EV production.</p></li></ul><p>Mercedes &amp; Audi have a well-established presence in Hungary. Mercedes decided to use a flex plant model, where it can easily switch between producing EVs or conventional cars. The electric EQB SUV with a range of 240 miles, starts at $53,900 and is being manufactured in Hungary. It is price-competitive compared with Tesla&#39;s Model Y, but it lacks a bit of range, which seems to be at the heart of the lack of success that Mercedes is seeing in the EV market. Volkswagen&#39;s (OTCPK:VLKAF) Audi Q4 and other Volkswagen group EV models have electric motors built in Hungary, which helps it save money on labor, taxes, and energy costs.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s main global competitor looks to compete in Europe.</p></li></ul><p>BYD seems to have the same idea as German EV makers, given that it recently announced plans to build its first EV assembly plant in Hungary. It could be argued that it might be a way to simply try to maximize profits for BYD and all other companies that are converging on the one country that seems to have had a longer-term vision of catering to the EV industry. The profit motive may be the primary driver of EV producers and battery manufacturers converging to the place where they can be arguably the most cost-effective in Europe. If or when the battle for EV market share in Europe intensifies, Tesla&#39;s main competitors seem to be well-positioned to compete. Tesla&#39;s decision to assemble its cars in Germany on the other hand may have lessened its ability to do in Europe what it has done for most of the past decade, namely outcompete its Western market competitors, even as it became a highly profitable company.</p><h2 id=\"id_34294936\">Investment implications.</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>The reasoning behind the upgrade from sell to hold.</p></li></ul><p>I bought Tesla stock last year at just over $120/share and sold once it reached $195, as I pointed out in an article at the beginning of 2023. My current upgrade to a hold from a sell back then is by no means a reflection of a change in my overall view in terms of performance expectations. The only difference is that back in February 2023 Tesla stock was on an upswing, so an opportunity arose to take profits, while now it is on a downswing, thus I am looking for the price to be right once again to get back in. In other words, it is now once again a stock of interest that I am watching, thus the upgrade.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a84f3f37ea44b119547890fb618d249\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"300\"/></p><p>Tesla stock price &amp; other metrics (Seeking Alpha)</p><p>I missed out last year as it went as high as over $290/share, however as I write this, Tesla stock trades just slightly below my exit price point, therefore holding would not have earned me any extra gains on the trade as of right now. I am currently looking to start buying Tesla stock again if it drops below $150 or so, which is when the P/E ratio will start to resemble reasonable fundamentals of the company as I perceive them. As we can see, even after the recent decline in its stock price, Tesla stock is still trading at about twice the P/E valuation of the overall market.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s higher P/E relative to peers may be partially justified.</p></li></ul><p>One of the bear cases that can be made for Tesla is the massive discrepancy between its P/E and that of its automotive industry peers. For instance, BMW, which I foresee as becoming a major competitor in Europe for EV market share, especially within the luxury segment, has a forward P/E of only about 5.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7567bb386700b0fdd838954a08c54b79\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"298\"/></p><p>BMW stock and other financial metrics (Seeking Alpha)</p><p>It also offers a very generous dividend yield of about 8.7%, which in theory should justify a higher P/E. The difference is that BMW is far from being a growth stock. It may increase EV sales in the future, but it will likely come at a cost, with conventional car sales set to decline.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f594f20e057e1552635b045b4d027067\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"481\"/></p><p>BMW</p><p>As we can see, yearly sales have been holding flat in the past years. My personal view is that the EU EV transition plan to 2035 will lead to an overall decline in European car sales. BMW might see a net decline in total sales as a result, even though comparatively speaking it might emerge as one of the least-impacted European automakers, as I pointed out in an article in 2022. I do not think that Tesla&#39;s growth prospects justify a P/E ratio that is about 12 times higher than BMW&#39;s, but its growth profile, versus the no growth profile of BMW, does justify a significantly higher P/E valuation.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla lost EV market share in Europe this decade.</p></li></ul><p>With my analysis of Tesla&#39;s situation in Europe in mind, my perception of Tesla&#39;s overall fundamentals is that it is maturing into a solid company within the global auto industry, with strong profit margins, as well as the potential for continued moderate long-term sales growth.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39963958b96b9010c8d857993df69b89\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"321\"/></p><p>Data sources: Good car bad car.net, InsideEVs</p><p>As we can see, Tesla continues to capture more of the total automotive market share in Europe, together with the rest of the EV industry. Even as the EV industry slowed significantly in 2023 in terms of increasing its automotive sector market share, Tesla still managed to significantly increase its market share. That may not necessarily be an indication of how things will go this year and beyond, because as I pointed out, most of its competitors are gearing up to compete more intensely. Furthermore, looking at a multi-year performance, for instance, from 2019 until the present, the overall EV industry in Europe outperformed Tesla. Tesla&#39;s share of the European auto market grew about four-fold in the period, while the overall share of the EV industry grew about seven-fold, as the chart shows. In other words, this decade, Tesla is underperforming the overall European EV market in terms of sales growth.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>The size of the global luxury car market is limited and Tesla already plays a sizable role, therefore it is unclear how much more of it is up for grabs.</p></li></ul><p>It should also be noted that all of Tesla&#39;s current models target the luxury car segment in terms of potential consumers, which is as true in Europe as it is in the US or China. The total global luxury car market is estimated to be $655 billion as of 2023. Tesla is already about 13% of the global luxury car market, based on its total automotive revenues of $82.42 billion in 2023. It is questionable just how much further that market share can be expanded.</p><p>Europe&#39;s luxury carmakers are gearing up to fight for market share by keeping manufacturing costs low, as I thoroughly examined in this article. Elsewhere, competition will continue to be fierce as well, especially given that the luxury segment tends to be where the profits are for EV makers. We should not write off the ICE-powered cars from retaining a significant portion of the global luxury car segment, as well as the European car market. Many luxury car enthusiasts continue to prefer it to electric.</p><p>The global luxury car market will probably continue to expand, although it might disappoint current expectations of it reaching the trillion-dollar mark by the end of the decade. Tesla&#39;s sales growth may increasingly reflect the growth in the global luxury car market, as well as the growth of the EV segment within the overall luxury car market. I expect EVs to become dominant within the luxury car segment worldwide, perhaps by the end of the decade, whereas as of 2022, they captured about 30% of the luxury car market.</p><h2 id=\"id_1663658810\">Conclusion:</h2><p>Within this context, I expect Tesla&#39;s shares to mostly trade between $100/share and $300/share for the foreseeable future. Buyers will flock to it as it approaches $100/share, where its valuation will look increasingly reasonable, and sell as it approaches $300/share, where it will look increasingly out of step in terms of its fundamentals. For reference, with all else held equal, If Tesla stock were to trade at $100/share, its P/E ratio would drop to about 31, just slightly above the S&amp;P 500 P/E ratio currently at just over 26. Based on my view, I see Tesla&#39;s P/E ratio approaching the market&#39;s average P/E as a likely bottom, namely that most investors would choose Tesla over owning the broader market, once P/E ratios converge. It was the same reasoning that led me to buy Tesla stock early last year as it went to $120/share. I just don&#39;t see much downside for this stock once it gets close to the overall market in terms of valuation. Therefore it is worth buying its stock whenever it falls below $150/share in my view, knowing that the downside is limited from that point on and selling once its shares rise above $200/share.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla's Losing Battle For EV Market Share In Europe Highlights Its Sales Growth Challenge</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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With the backing of solid profit margins, it can afford to undercut competitors, especially in the Developed World, most of which are still struggling to produce & sell EVs at a profit. Europe might emerge as an exception, where Tesla bet on producing its cars in Germany, while much of its German & Chinese competition is building up capacity in Hungary where there is a clear comparative advantage in labor, energy, and government taxation costs. Lower production costs mean those companies that are investing heavily in EV production capacity in Hungary and other Eastern EU states, are increasingly in a position to engage in price discounting to counter anything that Tesla may try to do. Tesla is losing ground to its competition in Europe within the EV market this decade and it may continue to do so going forward. Using the European market as a case study, we can conclude that Tesla's future outlook in terms of sales looks set to be one of moderate growth, which does not support current P/E valuations. As such, I see Tesla stock trading in the $100/share to $300/share range for the foreseeable future.Tesla's Q4 results:For the fourth quarter of 2023, Tesla saw an increase in revenues of 3%, to $25.17 billion. It is nowhere near the growth levels one might expect from a company that currently has a forward P/E ratio of about 60, in other words, about two and a half times higher than the S&P index. The net income attributable to shareholders increased by 115%, to $7.93 billion, which does partially justify continuing to have Tesla stock trading at a P/E ratio that is priced for growth. It should also be noted that profit margins were healthy, with net earnings at 31.5% of revenues. It is an enviable level of profitability, even as many car companies are still trying to figure out how to profitable sell EVs.Growth in vehicle deliveries was significant, with a 13% increase in deliveries in Q4, 2023, compared with Q4, 2022. The reason why it did not translate into a corresponding increase in revenues is in large part due to a decline in the average price of Tesla cars sold. One factor was Tesla's policy of discounting its cars to start fighting for market share.How Tesla compares to peers in terms of EV market share in Europe:Tesla is currently far from being the most dominant EV maker & seller in Europe.Data source: InsideEVsIt is notably beating European luxury carmakers like Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGYY) & BMW (OTCPK:BMWYY), both of which I expected to do a lot better in the EV sector, given that they are already catering to the same income demographic that tends to buy EVs. Both of those companies are in the process of taking part in what is shaping up to become a marriage made in Hungary, between European carmakers and Asian EV battery producers, which they hope to help them conquer the European EV market.Tesla's potential production cost disadvantage in Europe, as competitors flock to more cost-effective places.Hungary is emerging as a world leader in EV battery production, thanks to Asian investments and it is also seeing massive inflows of investments in EV assembly plants.Visual CapitalistWith new investments such as CATL in the pipeline, Hungary will probably maintain its role as Europe's largest EV battery producer for the foreseeable future, and with that, it will also play a significant role as an EV manufacturing hub. None of this happened accidentally. Hungary offers significant advantages, especially for manufacturing enterprises.Corporate taxes.Hungary's current corporate tax rate is the lowest in the EU, while Germany's is the second-highest in Europe.Tax FoundationIt is difficult to quantify just how great of an impact corporate tax rates will have on producing and selling an EV. We should keep in mind that those lower corporate tax rates work their way through the entire supply chain that supports the final assembly of EVs.Energy costs.Hungary is one of the lower-cost places in terms of energy prices, while Germany is among the highest in the non-household segment of the economy.ECThe difference in electricity costs for non-household consumers may not be great, but it is yet another cost advantage that German car manufacturers, as well as now BYD (OTCPK:BYDDF) are looking to take advantage of. These costs also work throughout the supply chain.Labor costs.When most people think of outsourcing, within the European context from Western Europe toward the Eastern part of the EU, labor costs tend to come to mind instantly. There is no significant advantage that Hungary has over its immediate neighbors, such as Slovakia or Romania in this regard. Average gross wages in Hungary are about 3 times lower than they are in Germany. That is a significant difference. It is hard to accurately quantify what all these savings mean for Germany's automakers, in particular when it comes to producing EVs at a cost advantage relative to Tesla. A decade-old estimate from Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGAF) suggests that at least back then the savings per vehicle produced in Hungary were as high as 30% of total production costs. Much has changed since then, including a narrowing in the wage gap. On the other hand, energy prices increased more dramatically in Germany over the past few years.German EV manufacturers to produce models that directly compete with Tesla models in Hungary. BYD joins the trend.BMW's Hungary EV & new generation battery plant.BMW is set to produce some of the models that compete with Tesla's Model Y at its new plant in Hungary by the end of next year. A successor to the BMW iX3 is one of the models that BMW plans to produce there. The successor version of the model will feature BMW's in-house battery, which is supposed to provide 30% faster charging, as well as up to 30% more range. Its current range of 240 miles could thus get a significant boost that will take it above 300 miles. It remains to be seen whether or not the price will also be lowered. It currently sells at just under $90,000 for the base model, versus Tesla's model Y which sells at a starting price of $46,000. BMW has a long way to go to close that price gap, but it is possible that with the cost savings related to producing its cars in Hungary, it will be able to significantly lower the price, even as it improves on performance.Mercedes & Audi have a long-established presence in Hungary that is now being retooled for EV production.Mercedes & Audi have a well-established presence in Hungary. Mercedes decided to use a flex plant model, where it can easily switch between producing EVs or conventional cars. The electric EQB SUV with a range of 240 miles, starts at $53,900 and is being manufactured in Hungary. It is price-competitive compared with Tesla's Model Y, but it lacks a bit of range, which seems to be at the heart of the lack of success that Mercedes is seeing in the EV market. Volkswagen's (OTCPK:VLKAF) Audi Q4 and other Volkswagen group EV models have electric motors built in Hungary, which helps it save money on labor, taxes, and energy costs.Tesla's main global competitor looks to compete in Europe.BYD seems to have the same idea as German EV makers, given that it recently announced plans to build its first EV assembly plant in Hungary. It could be argued that it might be a way to simply try to maximize profits for BYD and all other companies that are converging on the one country that seems to have had a longer-term vision of catering to the EV industry. The profit motive may be the primary driver of EV producers and battery manufacturers converging to the place where they can be arguably the most cost-effective in Europe. If or when the battle for EV market share in Europe intensifies, Tesla's main competitors seem to be well-positioned to compete. Tesla's decision to assemble its cars in Germany on the other hand may have lessened its ability to do in Europe what it has done for most of the past decade, namely outcompete its Western market competitors, even as it became a highly profitable company.Investment implications.The reasoning behind the upgrade from sell to hold.I bought Tesla stock last year at just over $120/share and sold once it reached $195, as I pointed out in an article at the beginning of 2023. My current upgrade to a hold from a sell back then is by no means a reflection of a change in my overall view in terms of performance expectations. The only difference is that back in February 2023 Tesla stock was on an upswing, so an opportunity arose to take profits, while now it is on a downswing, thus I am looking for the price to be right once again to get back in. In other words, it is now once again a stock of interest that I am watching, thus the upgrade.Tesla stock price & other metrics (Seeking Alpha)I missed out last year as it went as high as over $290/share, however as I write this, Tesla stock trades just slightly below my exit price point, therefore holding would not have earned me any extra gains on the trade as of right now. I am currently looking to start buying Tesla stock again if it drops below $150 or so, which is when the P/E ratio will start to resemble reasonable fundamentals of the company as I perceive them. As we can see, even after the recent decline in its stock price, Tesla stock is still trading at about twice the P/E valuation of the overall market.Tesla's higher P/E relative to peers may be partially justified.One of the bear cases that can be made for Tesla is the massive discrepancy between its P/E and that of its automotive industry peers. For instance, BMW, which I foresee as becoming a major competitor in Europe for EV market share, especially within the luxury segment, has a forward P/E of only about 5.BMW stock and other financial metrics (Seeking Alpha)It also offers a very generous dividend yield of about 8.7%, which in theory should justify a higher P/E. The difference is that BMW is far from being a growth stock. It may increase EV sales in the future, but it will likely come at a cost, with conventional car sales set to decline.BMWAs we can see, yearly sales have been holding flat in the past years. My personal view is that the EU EV transition plan to 2035 will lead to an overall decline in European car sales. BMW might see a net decline in total sales as a result, even though comparatively speaking it might emerge as one of the least-impacted European automakers, as I pointed out in an article in 2022. I do not think that Tesla's growth prospects justify a P/E ratio that is about 12 times higher than BMW's, but its growth profile, versus the no growth profile of BMW, does justify a significantly higher P/E valuation.Tesla lost EV market share in Europe this decade.With my analysis of Tesla's situation in Europe in mind, my perception of Tesla's overall fundamentals is that it is maturing into a solid company within the global auto industry, with strong profit margins, as well as the potential for continued moderate long-term sales growth.Data sources: Good car bad car.net, InsideEVsAs we can see, Tesla continues to capture more of the total automotive market share in Europe, together with the rest of the EV industry. Even as the EV industry slowed significantly in 2023 in terms of increasing its automotive sector market share, Tesla still managed to significantly increase its market share. That may not necessarily be an indication of how things will go this year and beyond, because as I pointed out, most of its competitors are gearing up to compete more intensely. Furthermore, looking at a multi-year performance, for instance, from 2019 until the present, the overall EV industry in Europe outperformed Tesla. Tesla's share of the European auto market grew about four-fold in the period, while the overall share of the EV industry grew about seven-fold, as the chart shows. In other words, this decade, Tesla is underperforming the overall European EV market in terms of sales growth.The size of the global luxury car market is limited and Tesla already plays a sizable role, therefore it is unclear how much more of it is up for grabs.It should also be noted that all of Tesla's current models target the luxury car segment in terms of potential consumers, which is as true in Europe as it is in the US or China. The total global luxury car market is estimated to be $655 billion as of 2023. Tesla is already about 13% of the global luxury car market, based on its total automotive revenues of $82.42 billion in 2023. It is questionable just how much further that market share can be expanded.Europe's luxury carmakers are gearing up to fight for market share by keeping manufacturing costs low, as I thoroughly examined in this article. Elsewhere, competition will continue to be fierce as well, especially given that the luxury segment tends to be where the profits are for EV makers. We should not write off the ICE-powered cars from retaining a significant portion of the global luxury car segment, as well as the European car market. Many luxury car enthusiasts continue to prefer it to electric.The global luxury car market will probably continue to expand, although it might disappoint current expectations of it reaching the trillion-dollar mark by the end of the decade. Tesla's sales growth may increasingly reflect the growth in the global luxury car market, as well as the growth of the EV segment within the overall luxury car market. I expect EVs to become dominant within the luxury car segment worldwide, perhaps by the end of the decade, whereas as of 2022, they captured about 30% of the luxury car market.Conclusion:Within this context, I expect Tesla's shares to mostly trade between $100/share and $300/share for the foreseeable future. Buyers will flock to it as it approaches $100/share, where its valuation will look increasingly reasonable, and sell as it approaches $300/share, where it will look increasingly out of step in terms of its fundamentals. For reference, with all else held equal, If Tesla stock were to trade at $100/share, its P/E ratio would drop to about 31, just slightly above the S&P 500 P/E ratio currently at just over 26. Based on my view, I see Tesla's P/E ratio approaching the market's average P/E as a likely bottom, namely that most investors would choose Tesla over owning the broader market, once P/E ratios converge. It was the same reasoning that led me to buy Tesla stock early last year as it went to $120/share. I just don't see much downside for this stock once it gets close to the overall market in terms of valuation. Therefore it is worth buying its stock whenever it falls below $150/share in my view, knowing that the downside is limited from that point on and selling once its shares rise above $200/share.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":414,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":268861209800864,"gmtCreate":1706674585995,"gmtModify":1706674590143,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Short seller Author?&nbsp;","listText":"Short seller Author?&nbsp;","text":"Short seller Author?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/268861209800864","repostId":"2407836533","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2407836533","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1706670689,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2407836533?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-01-31 11:11","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: Max Pain Ahead (Rating Downgrade)","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2407836533","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Tesla, Inc. recently reported Q4 earnings, sending shares lower.Growth is slowing down meaningfully — Tesla could experience negative growth in Q1.Margins are compressing — are you an optimist or a pessimist?Only time will tell. On the bright side, the Services and Other business produced a record Revenue of $2.2B, up 27% YoY, as Tesla's fleet continues to expand. Despite robust YoY growth, notice how Services and Other Revenue has remained flat for two quarters in a row — perhaps, the segment is facing some challenges of its own. Regardless, the segment should grow in 2024 as Tesla's Supercharger partnerships with legacy automakers go live in 2024.   Author's Analysis Moving on to Tesla Energy, the segment generated $1.4B of Revenue in Q4, which is up 10% YoY, driven by energy storage deployments. As you can see, growth for the Energy Ge","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla, Inc. recently reported Q4 earnings, sending shares lower.</p></li><li><p>Growth is slowing down meaningfully — Tesla could experience negative growth in Q1.</p></li><li><p>Margins are compressing — are you an optimist or a pessimist?</p></li><li><p>As long as interest rates remain high, Tesla&#39;s outlook remains weak.</p></li><li><p>Things are likely to get worse before they get better.</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_3829548626\">Introduction</h2><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla, Inc.</a> recently reported weaker-than-expected Q4 earnings, sending shares tumbling more than 12% the following day.</p><p>Lackluster growth, margin headwinds, and the lack of a clear outlook were the driving forces for the selloff.</p><p>Despite already being down 23% in 2024, it seems that the path of least resistance for the stock is down, given the company&#39;s deteriorating fundamentals, weakening demand outlook, and rich valuation.</p><p>Buckle up, max pain ahead for Tesla.</p><h2 id=\"id_3382730358\">Growth</h2><p>Tesla reported Q4 revenue of $25.2B, up only 3% YoY. This missed analyst estimates by $590M, or 2%, painting a weak demand picture for the leading electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;) manufacturer.</p><p>As you can see, growth has slowed down significantly over the last few quarters, down from 37% YoY and 9% QoQ. The trend certainly does not look good, with the company on track to have its first quarter of negative growth in over three years.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/80f2bebd49a4062bb59d376b192350b8\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Breaking it down by segment, Tesla&#39;s core Automotive segment, which accounted for 86% of Total Revenue, grew only 1% YoY to $21.6B. This was primarily due to lower average selling prices and lower full self-driving, or FSD, Revenue recognition.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5e42aacff87c60a91e49a8677e38a20c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>While Tesla achieved its 2023 production target of 1.8M vehicles, production and delivery numbers continued to slow down in Q4, even despite the price cuts:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Q4 Total Production</strong> was 495K, up 13% YoY, down from Q3&#39;s relatively low growth of 18%.</p></li><li><p><strong>Q4 Total Deliveries</strong> was 485K, up 20% YoY, again, down from Q3&#39;s already-low growth of 27%.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cc783faf617863cac867e77c87ec380d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"243\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>That said, Q4 was a record quarter for both production and deliveries, showing Tesla&#39;s expansion plans in action.</p><p>We should see production numbers tick up higher in 2024 as the company has completed its factory upgrades in Q3, which increased its annual production rate to nearly 2M vehicles.</p><p>The question is: will deliveries have a record year as well? In other words, will the demand landscape support higher delivery numbers in 2024?</p><p>Only time will tell.</p><p>On the bright side, the Services and Other business produced a record Revenue of $2.2B, up 27% YoY, as Tesla&#39;s fleet continues to expand. Despite robust YoY growth, notice how Services and Other Revenue has remained flat for two quarters in a row — perhaps, the segment is facing some challenges of its own.</p><p>Regardless, the segment should grow in 2024 as Tesla&#39;s Supercharger partnerships with legacy automakers go live in 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/12e5c96cfab1916dced922869aefdfd4\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Moving on to Tesla Energy, the segment generated $1.4B of Revenue in Q4, which is up 10% YoY, driven by energy storage deployments. As you can see, growth for the Energy Generation and Storage business is fading as well.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f8c54a696ac30d4c40b3e6b1ea1410d9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Its solar unit is the clear laggard, with only 41MW deployed in Q4, down 59% YoY. Ongoing high interest rates are putting immense pressure on the solar industry and Tesla is no exception.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/500bad97780255baab7782ed51ac91c6\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"439\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>On the other hand, Tesla&#39;s storage unit grew 30% YoY to 3.2GWh deployed. However, on a sequential basis, energy storage deployments dropped by nearly 0.8GWh.</p><p>That said, &#34;deployments will continue to be volatile on a sequential basis&#34; but management still expects &#34;continued growth on a trailing twelve-month basis going forward.&#34;</p><p>To sum up, all three businesses are facing major headwinds as growth turned stagnant. Each of Tesla&#39;s businesses is interest rate sensitive and given the high interest rate environment the economy is facing right now, it&#39;s no surprise that the company&#39;s growth has come to a standstill.</p><p>Most concerning of all, its bread-and-butter Automotive segment seems to be heading for a decline in Q1, which may cause pandemonium among investors.</p><p>Fortunately, it seems that we&#39;re at the peak of the interest rate cycle with multiple rate cuts on the horizon — when that happens, Tesla will enjoy strong demand tailwinds once again.</p><p>In the meantime, Tesla has to endure the short-term challenges. Growth is one. Profitability is another.</p><h2 id=\"id_1277976259\">Profitability</h2><p>In Q4, Gross Profit declined 23% YoY to $4.4B, representing a Gross Margin of 18%, which declined 620bps YoY and 30bps QoQ. Gross Margin pressure was driven by the price cuts as well as the Cybertruck production ramp.</p><p>Whatever the reasons, Gross Margin decline never looks good as it may indicate fundamental weakness, perhaps a narrowing competitive moat or low pricing power — and that&#39;s probably why investors are turning bearish on Tesla.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1b0c06bec622338effd6202b5be8c2ce\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>While Tesla was able to reduce Cost of Revenue per Vehicle, it wasn&#39;t enough to offset the price cuts.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>As of Q4,<strong> Average Selling Prices</strong> declined about $8K YoY to $45K</p></li><li><p>However, <strong>Cost of Revenue per Vehicle</strong> dropped only $3K YoY to $36K</p></li><li><p>As a result, <strong>Automotive Gross Margin</strong> fell 700bps YoY to 19%.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a780d6156228bd559c5e1a6222a440ff\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Yes, Tesla is sacrificing margins in the short term in an attempt to gain as much market as possible, so that the company can generate high-margin Revenue through ancillary services such as FSD.</p><p>But frustration is building up among investors. When will margins bottom? What&#39;s the long-term margin profile of the business? What happens if Tesla raises prices again?</p><p>In addition, Tesla is currently working on the Next Generation Platform and a new EV model aimed at the mass market at a price tag of, get this... $25K.</p><p>What will happen to the company&#39;s Gross Margin when the company launches this new vehicle in 2025?</p><p>My gut tells me that margins are going to head lower.</p><p>Some might argue that Tesla&#39;s other two segments will compensate for the lower Automotive Gross Margins, but last time I checked, the other two businesses only produce a combined 14% of Total Revenue with not-so-impressive Gross Margins themselves.</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Energy Generation and Storage Gross Margin</strong>: 22%</p></li><li><p><strong>Services and Other Gross Margin</strong>: 3%.</p></li></ul><p>Yes, they might improve in the future. But the crux of the matter is that their sizes are minuscule compared to the Automotive business, which means that margin expansion from these two segments may not be meaningful enough to cover the margin decline from the Automotive segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2d6fbafa4625edd0a4eb1927c950f913\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>That&#39;s why Operating Margins continue to be under pressure, despite Gross Margin improvement for the two smaller segments.</p><p>In Q4, Operating Profit was $2.1B, down 47% YoY. This represents an Operating Margin of 8% in Q4, which is now half from last year, mainly due to:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Lower average selling prices</p></li><li><p>Cost of Cybertruck production ramp</p></li><li><p>Higher R&amp;D expenses.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/493f540e24bbf42a1bcd0b72e61628ff\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Oh... remember the chart below which compares Tesla&#39;s superior Operating Margin to industry peers and the S&amp;P500? Well… management decided to remove it.</p><p>In other words, Tesla&#39;s profitability profile has turned so bad that comparing it with the auto industry and the S&amp;P 500 (SP500) would weaken the investment case for Tesla — thus, it&#39;s better to leave the chart out.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2c14c50b452aa238ca2fde3369943d01\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"435\"/></p><p>Tesla FY2023 Q3 Quarterly Update</p><p>In terms of the bottom line, Q4 Net Income was $7.9B which included a one-time non-cash tax benefit of $5.9B, so without this benefit, Net Income would have been much lower.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5076243f1acd5334f505446d15b5c903\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>All in all, it&#39;s difficult to interpret Tesla&#39;s declining margin.</p><p>On one hand, <strong>optimists</strong> believe that Tesla is taking advantage of its cost advantages moats and intentionally lowering prices to maximize market share growth, which is reflected in the chart below.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3ffaf83b09bcfcd2d6b74e91f150d2a1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"301\"/></p><p>Tesla FY2023 Q4 Quarterly Update</p><p>On the other hand, <strong>pessimists</strong> believe that Tesla&#39;s falling margins are a reflection of weak demand, as a result of the macro situation and/or fierce competition.</p><p>So which side are you on?</p><p>As for me, I&#39;m leaning more toward the pessimistic side — the data says it all:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Growth slowed down significantly despite the price cuts</p></li><li><p>Gross Margin declined meaningfully despite lower Cost of Revenue per Vehicle. In addition, there&#39;s a &#34;natural limit&#34; to how much the company can cut costs.</p></li></ul><p>That said, I need to see growth rates and Gross Margin bottoming before I turn more optimistic.</p><h2 id=\"id_3035289186\">Health</h2><p>The good part about investing in Tesla over peers is that Tesla holds little leverage while peers have hundreds of billions of debt. Through whatever economic storm, Tesla is undoubtedly in the best financial position in the auto industry.</p><p>As of Q4, Tesla has $29.1B of Cash and Short-term Investments with only $5.2B of Total Debt, placing its Net Cash position at $23.9B. As you can see, Tesla&#39;s balance sheet continues to strengthen with each passing quarter as Net Cash continues to grow.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/838f570bdb90077e504a500760bd9277\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"261\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Net Cash grew $3.0B QoQ, driven by $2.1B of Free Cash Flow (&#34;FCF&#34;), representing an 8% FCF Margin. FCF remained strong despite high CapEx and R&amp;D Expenses to fund future growth projects.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0d72aecec5643d24db4ee67d087f72ac\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"258\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>Given its high Net Cash position, positive FCF profile, and plummeting share price, management might initiate a buyback program soon, especially if the share price keeps falling further, which could be a positive catalyst for the stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_418140608\">Outlook</h2><p>Things already looked bad but it got even worse as management talked about the outlook, most notably:</p><blockquote><p>In 2024, our vehicle volume growth rate may be notably lower than the growth rate achieved in 2023</p><p>(Tesla FY2023 Q4 Quarterly Update).</p></blockquote><p>To recall, Tesla produced slightly over 1.8M vehicles in 2023, which is about a 35% increase from 2022.</p><p>As it stands, Tesla has a total annual capacity of at least 2.35M vehicles. Assuming Tesla runs at full capacity and produces 2.35M vehicles in 2024, that is a 27% growth over 2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e65604abee216c13060e32473d58ac99\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"346\"/></p><p>Tesla FY2023 Q4 Quarterly Update</p><p>I think this is unlikely.</p><p>I think 2.0M to 2.1M vehicles produced in 2024 is more accurate, which is about a 14% YoY growth — also &#34;notably lower&#34; than 2023&#39;s growth of 35%</p><p>Assuming average selling prices remained stable at $45K, 2024 Automotive Revenue would be:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>2.1M x $45K = $94.5B, which is up 15% YoY.</p></li></ul><p>Mind you, Automotive Revenue grew only 1% in Q4 so a 15% growth in 2024 seems too generous.</p><p>With rate cuts expected in June, Automotive Revenue growth would likely remain depressed in the next two quarters. In fact, growth could turn negative in the first half of 2024.</p><p>It&#39;s simple: high interest rates lead to low affordability, which results in lower Revenue.</p><p>In addition, Tesla is facing a couple more problems:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Cybertruck ramp is going to take longer than anticipated &#34;given its manufacturing complexities.&#34; I have addressed the Cybertruck issue in detail in my previous article.</p></li><li><p>With the expected launch of a new $25K model in 2025, many potential customers may cancel or defer their orders and wait for the release of the cheaper model, which may mean lower unit sales in 2024.</p></li></ul><p>That said, while Tesla&#39;s long-term growth story remains intact, the near-term outlook — at least, for the next two quarters — looks bleak, given high interest rates, slowing growth, and margin compression.</p><p>As such, I believe things are going to get worse before they get better.</p><h2 id=\"id_213435201\">Valuation</h2><p>As it stands, Tesla trades at a Price to Sales ratio of 6.9x, which is a nice discount to its highs of 30x and its 10-year average of 9.2x, so on a historical basis, Tesla stock may look cheap.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/66b55325b924958efb25eb389a595436\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"435\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>However, Tesla trades at a P/E and Price to FCF ratio of 61x and 179x, respectively.</p><p>I don&#39;t know about you, but to me Tesla&#39;s valuation looks very expensive considering weak growth, weak profitability, and weak outlook.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/461f0207f5bd5242a383aaba8c8c0624\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>In light of management&#39;s gloomy remarks, I&#39;m lowering my price target as well. Here are my key assumptions:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Revenue</strong> growth follows analyst estimates for the first three years and gradually falls to just 15% in 2027 and beyond.</p></li><li><p><strong>Gross Margin</strong> to expand to 24% by 2033. This one is a bit controversial given the margin trends as of recently, but I expect high-margin Revenue (like FSD) to eventually contribute to margin expansion.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/22ebefd21bf7caa76b207e1e696610ce\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"87\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>By 2033, Revenue is estimated to be about $424B, which is more than 4x from 2023. At the same time, I project a long-term FCF Margin of 14.5% for Tesla.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b2fb69fcf910856c1ca7ac066f6cb6c0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"154\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>Based on a discount rate of 10% and a perpetual growth rate of 3%, I arrived at a <strong>fair value estimate of $171 for Tesla</strong>, which is lower than the average analyst price target of $219.</p><p>I have also included my bear and bull cases below. In all honesty, I&#39;m leaning more towards the bearish side.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/206ca604add869bd097900f1ce731026\" tg-width=\"424\" tg-height=\"156\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p>I don&#39;t care if you value Tesla as a car company or a software company or an AI robotics company — valuation matters, and right now, Tesla is still richly valued, despite being down 23% year to date.</p><p>And considering the company&#39;s deteriorating fundamentals and weak outlook, I require a wider margin of safety to upgrade the stock to a buy.</p><h2 id=\"id_2583584026\">Risks</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Higher for Longer</strong>: prolonged high interest rates will continue to put pressure on EV, solar, and energy storage demand. Rates need to go lower for Tesla to return to strong growth. That&#39;s just the way it is.</p></li><li><p><strong>Competition</strong>: Competition is catching up, even Elon Musk admits it. We need to keep track of Automotive Gross Margin to evaluate Tesla&#39;s cost advantages and pricing moat.</p></li></ul><blockquote><p>Well, our observation is generally that the <strong>Chinese car companies are the most competitive car companies in the world</strong>. So I think they will have significant success outside of China depending on what kind of tariffs or trade barriers are established. Frankly, I think if there are not trade barriers established, <strong>they will pretty much demolish most other car companies in the world</strong>. So they&#39;re extremely good.</p><p>(CEO Elon Musk — Tesla FY2023 Q4 Earnings Call, emphasis added.)</p></blockquote><h2 id=\"id_1714683878\">Thesis</h2><p>While I subscribe to Tesla, Inc.&#39;s long-term growth story, there are a few things that are stopping me from buying the stock</p><p>For one, growth is slowing down significantly, so much so that we may see negative growth in Q1 and Q2.</p><p>Second, &#34;in 2024, our vehicle volume growth rate may be notably lower than the growth rate achieved in 2023.&#34;</p><p>Third, profitability is under pressure, which may indicate weak demand and pricing power.</p><p>And finally, valuation is still rich — I need a larger margin of safety.</p><p>For these reasons, I believe Q1 and/or Q2 might be a particularly turbulent quarter for Tesla. I believe things are probably going to get worse before they get better.</p><p>That said, max pain ahead for Tesla.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Max Pain Ahead (Rating Downgrade)</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Max Pain Ahead (Rating Downgrade)\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-01-31 11:11 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4666013-tesla-max-pain-ahead-rating-downgrade><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. recently reported Q4 earnings, sending shares lower.Growth is slowing down meaningfully — Tesla could experience negative growth in Q1.Margins are compressing — are you an optimist or a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4666013-tesla-max-pain-ahead-rating-downgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4666013-tesla-max-pain-ahead-rating-downgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2407836533","content_text":"Tesla, Inc. recently reported Q4 earnings, sending shares lower.Growth is slowing down meaningfully — Tesla could experience negative growth in Q1.Margins are compressing — are you an optimist or a pessimist?As long as interest rates remain high, Tesla's outlook remains weak.Things are likely to get worse before they get better.IntroductionTesla, Inc. recently reported weaker-than-expected Q4 earnings, sending shares tumbling more than 12% the following day.Lackluster growth, margin headwinds, and the lack of a clear outlook were the driving forces for the selloff.Despite already being down 23% in 2024, it seems that the path of least resistance for the stock is down, given the company's deteriorating fundamentals, weakening demand outlook, and rich valuation.Buckle up, max pain ahead for Tesla.GrowthTesla reported Q4 revenue of $25.2B, up only 3% YoY. This missed analyst estimates by $590M, or 2%, painting a weak demand picture for the leading electric vehicle (\"EV\") manufacturer.As you can see, growth has slowed down significantly over the last few quarters, down from 37% YoY and 9% QoQ. The trend certainly does not look good, with the company on track to have its first quarter of negative growth in over three years.Author's AnalysisBreaking it down by segment, Tesla's core Automotive segment, which accounted for 86% of Total Revenue, grew only 1% YoY to $21.6B. This was primarily due to lower average selling prices and lower full self-driving, or FSD, Revenue recognition.Author's AnalysisWhile Tesla achieved its 2023 production target of 1.8M vehicles, production and delivery numbers continued to slow down in Q4, even despite the price cuts:Q4 Total Production was 495K, up 13% YoY, down from Q3's relatively low growth of 18%.Q4 Total Deliveries was 485K, up 20% YoY, again, down from Q3's already-low growth of 27%.Author's AnalysisThat said, Q4 was a record quarter for both production and deliveries, showing Tesla's expansion plans in action.We should see production numbers tick up higher in 2024 as the company has completed its factory upgrades in Q3, which increased its annual production rate to nearly 2M vehicles.The question is: will deliveries have a record year as well? In other words, will the demand landscape support higher delivery numbers in 2024?Only time will tell.On the bright side, the Services and Other business produced a record Revenue of $2.2B, up 27% YoY, as Tesla's fleet continues to expand. Despite robust YoY growth, notice how Services and Other Revenue has remained flat for two quarters in a row — perhaps, the segment is facing some challenges of its own.Regardless, the segment should grow in 2024 as Tesla's Supercharger partnerships with legacy automakers go live in 2024.Author's AnalysisMoving on to Tesla Energy, the segment generated $1.4B of Revenue in Q4, which is up 10% YoY, driven by energy storage deployments. As you can see, growth for the Energy Generation and Storage business is fading as well.Author's AnalysisIts solar unit is the clear laggard, with only 41MW deployed in Q4, down 59% YoY. Ongoing high interest rates are putting immense pressure on the solar industry and Tesla is no exception.Author's AnalysisOn the other hand, Tesla's storage unit grew 30% YoY to 3.2GWh deployed. However, on a sequential basis, energy storage deployments dropped by nearly 0.8GWh.That said, \"deployments will continue to be volatile on a sequential basis\" but management still expects \"continued growth on a trailing twelve-month basis going forward.\"To sum up, all three businesses are facing major headwinds as growth turned stagnant. Each of Tesla's businesses is interest rate sensitive and given the high interest rate environment the economy is facing right now, it's no surprise that the company's growth has come to a standstill.Most concerning of all, its bread-and-butter Automotive segment seems to be heading for a decline in Q1, which may cause pandemonium among investors.Fortunately, it seems that we're at the peak of the interest rate cycle with multiple rate cuts on the horizon — when that happens, Tesla will enjoy strong demand tailwinds once again.In the meantime, Tesla has to endure the short-term challenges. Growth is one. Profitability is another.ProfitabilityIn Q4, Gross Profit declined 23% YoY to $4.4B, representing a Gross Margin of 18%, which declined 620bps YoY and 30bps QoQ. Gross Margin pressure was driven by the price cuts as well as the Cybertruck production ramp.Whatever the reasons, Gross Margin decline never looks good as it may indicate fundamental weakness, perhaps a narrowing competitive moat or low pricing power — and that's probably why investors are turning bearish on Tesla.Author's AnalysisWhile Tesla was able to reduce Cost of Revenue per Vehicle, it wasn't enough to offset the price cuts.As of Q4, Average Selling Prices declined about $8K YoY to $45KHowever, Cost of Revenue per Vehicle dropped only $3K YoY to $36KAs a result, Automotive Gross Margin fell 700bps YoY to 19%.Author's AnalysisYes, Tesla is sacrificing margins in the short term in an attempt to gain as much market as possible, so that the company can generate high-margin Revenue through ancillary services such as FSD.But frustration is building up among investors. When will margins bottom? What's the long-term margin profile of the business? What happens if Tesla raises prices again?In addition, Tesla is currently working on the Next Generation Platform and a new EV model aimed at the mass market at a price tag of, get this... $25K.What will happen to the company's Gross Margin when the company launches this new vehicle in 2025?My gut tells me that margins are going to head lower.Some might argue that Tesla's other two segments will compensate for the lower Automotive Gross Margins, but last time I checked, the other two businesses only produce a combined 14% of Total Revenue with not-so-impressive Gross Margins themselves.Energy Generation and Storage Gross Margin: 22%Services and Other Gross Margin: 3%.Yes, they might improve in the future. But the crux of the matter is that their sizes are minuscule compared to the Automotive business, which means that margin expansion from these two segments may not be meaningful enough to cover the margin decline from the Automotive segment.Author's AnalysisThat's why Operating Margins continue to be under pressure, despite Gross Margin improvement for the two smaller segments.In Q4, Operating Profit was $2.1B, down 47% YoY. This represents an Operating Margin of 8% in Q4, which is now half from last year, mainly due to:Lower average selling pricesCost of Cybertruck production rampHigher R&D expenses.Author's AnalysisOh... remember the chart below which compares Tesla's superior Operating Margin to industry peers and the S&P500? Well… management decided to remove it.In other words, Tesla's profitability profile has turned so bad that comparing it with the auto industry and the S&P 500 (SP500) would weaken the investment case for Tesla — thus, it's better to leave the chart out.Tesla FY2023 Q3 Quarterly UpdateIn terms of the bottom line, Q4 Net Income was $7.9B which included a one-time non-cash tax benefit of $5.9B, so without this benefit, Net Income would have been much lower.Author's AnalysisAll in all, it's difficult to interpret Tesla's declining margin.On one hand, optimists believe that Tesla is taking advantage of its cost advantages moats and intentionally lowering prices to maximize market share growth, which is reflected in the chart below.Tesla FY2023 Q4 Quarterly UpdateOn the other hand, pessimists believe that Tesla's falling margins are a reflection of weak demand, as a result of the macro situation and/or fierce competition.So which side are you on?As for me, I'm leaning more toward the pessimistic side — the data says it all:Growth slowed down significantly despite the price cutsGross Margin declined meaningfully despite lower Cost of Revenue per Vehicle. In addition, there's a \"natural limit\" to how much the company can cut costs.That said, I need to see growth rates and Gross Margin bottoming before I turn more optimistic.HealthThe good part about investing in Tesla over peers is that Tesla holds little leverage while peers have hundreds of billions of debt. Through whatever economic storm, Tesla is undoubtedly in the best financial position in the auto industry.As of Q4, Tesla has $29.1B of Cash and Short-term Investments with only $5.2B of Total Debt, placing its Net Cash position at $23.9B. As you can see, Tesla's balance sheet continues to strengthen with each passing quarter as Net Cash continues to grow.Author's AnalysisNet Cash grew $3.0B QoQ, driven by $2.1B of Free Cash Flow (\"FCF\"), representing an 8% FCF Margin. FCF remained strong despite high CapEx and R&D Expenses to fund future growth projects.Author's AnalysisGiven its high Net Cash position, positive FCF profile, and plummeting share price, management might initiate a buyback program soon, especially if the share price keeps falling further, which could be a positive catalyst for the stock.OutlookThings already looked bad but it got even worse as management talked about the outlook, most notably:In 2024, our vehicle volume growth rate may be notably lower than the growth rate achieved in 2023(Tesla FY2023 Q4 Quarterly Update).To recall, Tesla produced slightly over 1.8M vehicles in 2023, which is about a 35% increase from 2022.As it stands, Tesla has a total annual capacity of at least 2.35M vehicles. Assuming Tesla runs at full capacity and produces 2.35M vehicles in 2024, that is a 27% growth over 2023.Tesla FY2023 Q4 Quarterly UpdateI think this is unlikely.I think 2.0M to 2.1M vehicles produced in 2024 is more accurate, which is about a 14% YoY growth — also \"notably lower\" than 2023's growth of 35%Assuming average selling prices remained stable at $45K, 2024 Automotive Revenue would be:2.1M x $45K = $94.5B, which is up 15% YoY.Mind you, Automotive Revenue grew only 1% in Q4 so a 15% growth in 2024 seems too generous.With rate cuts expected in June, Automotive Revenue growth would likely remain depressed in the next two quarters. In fact, growth could turn negative in the first half of 2024.It's simple: high interest rates lead to low affordability, which results in lower Revenue.In addition, Tesla is facing a couple more problems:Cybertruck ramp is going to take longer than anticipated \"given its manufacturing complexities.\" I have addressed the Cybertruck issue in detail in my previous article.With the expected launch of a new $25K model in 2025, many potential customers may cancel or defer their orders and wait for the release of the cheaper model, which may mean lower unit sales in 2024.That said, while Tesla's long-term growth story remains intact, the near-term outlook — at least, for the next two quarters — looks bleak, given high interest rates, slowing growth, and margin compression.As such, I believe things are going to get worse before they get better.ValuationAs it stands, Tesla trades at a Price to Sales ratio of 6.9x, which is a nice discount to its highs of 30x and its 10-year average of 9.2x, so on a historical basis, Tesla stock may look cheap.Data by YChartsHowever, Tesla trades at a P/E and Price to FCF ratio of 61x and 179x, respectively.I don't know about you, but to me Tesla's valuation looks very expensive considering weak growth, weak profitability, and weak outlook.Data by YChartsIn light of management's gloomy remarks, I'm lowering my price target as well. Here are my key assumptions:Revenue growth follows analyst estimates for the first three years and gradually falls to just 15% in 2027 and beyond.Gross Margin to expand to 24% by 2033. This one is a bit controversial given the margin trends as of recently, but I expect high-margin Revenue (like FSD) to eventually contribute to margin expansion.Author's AnalysisBy 2033, Revenue is estimated to be about $424B, which is more than 4x from 2023. At the same time, I project a long-term FCF Margin of 14.5% for Tesla.Author's AnalysisBased on a discount rate of 10% and a perpetual growth rate of 3%, I arrived at a fair value estimate of $171 for Tesla, which is lower than the average analyst price target of $219.I have also included my bear and bull cases below. In all honesty, I'm leaning more towards the bearish side.Author's AnalysisI don't care if you value Tesla as a car company or a software company or an AI robotics company — valuation matters, and right now, Tesla is still richly valued, despite being down 23% year to date.And considering the company's deteriorating fundamentals and weak outlook, I require a wider margin of safety to upgrade the stock to a buy.RisksHigher for Longer: prolonged high interest rates will continue to put pressure on EV, solar, and energy storage demand. Rates need to go lower for Tesla to return to strong growth. That's just the way it is.Competition: Competition is catching up, even Elon Musk admits it. We need to keep track of Automotive Gross Margin to evaluate Tesla's cost advantages and pricing moat.Well, our observation is generally that the Chinese car companies are the most competitive car companies in the world. So I think they will have significant success outside of China depending on what kind of tariffs or trade barriers are established. Frankly, I think if there are not trade barriers established, they will pretty much demolish most other car companies in the world. So they're extremely good.(CEO Elon Musk — Tesla FY2023 Q4 Earnings Call, emphasis added.)ThesisWhile I subscribe to Tesla, Inc.'s long-term growth story, there are a few things that are stopping me from buying the stockFor one, growth is slowing down significantly, so much so that we may see negative growth in Q1 and Q2.Second, \"in 2024, our vehicle volume growth rate may be notably lower than the growth rate achieved in 2023.\"Third, profitability is under pressure, which may indicate weak demand and pricing power.And finally, valuation is still rich — I need a larger margin of safety.For these reasons, I believe Q1 and/or Q2 might be a particularly turbulent quarter for Tesla. I believe things are probably going to get worse before they get better.That said, max pain ahead for Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":245,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":237413145411720,"gmtCreate":1698997747446,"gmtModify":1698997752199,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"How can Tesla at $600 M currently? Error?","listText":"How can Tesla at $600 M currently? Error?","text":"How can Tesla at $600 M currently? Error?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/237413145411720","repostId":"2380395295","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2380395295","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1698991442,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2380395295?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-03 14:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Elon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2380395295","media":"Electrek","summary":"Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.</p><p>The CEO has often commented on the potential market capitalization of Tesla.</p><p>Most famously, he said that Tesla could be worth more than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined back in October 2022.</p><p>However, Tesla’s stock is down 4% since Musk made that comment last year. The NASDAQ is up 20% over the same period:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3895f440e559e4f3ff94394efd732cef\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"472\"/></p><p>Lately, the stock has been frustrating Tesla investors with a 17% drop over just the last month.</p><p>Recently, Ron Baron, hedge fund manager and long-time Tesla investor, went on MarketWatch to reiterate his vision that Tesla would become a $4 trillion company.</p><p>He believes that Tesla will achieve that by becoming a battery company:</p><blockquote><p>“In the case of Tesla, we are convinced that people cannot do what they’re doing and that, ultimately, it’s not just going to be a car company and it’s not just going to be a battery company. All the other car companies, which 50 years ago, elected to become much more profitable and outsource supplies and compute to other people. We’re going to be like Intel was inside of computers. This is going to be Tesla inside of cars. All the cars are going to be using Tesla autonomous driving. No one else can possibly compete.”</p></blockquote><p>Musk commented on the idea that Tesla could become a $4 trillion company – agreeing, but adding that it would need to “knock the ball out of the park several times”:</p><blockquote><p>“We do need to knock the ball out of the park several times to achieve that value, but I think we can.”</p></blockquote><p>Tesla is currently valued at over $600 million.</p><h2 id=\"id_245739695\">Electrek’s Take</h2><p>$4 trillion sounds ridiculous, and it very well might be, but most people said the same thing about Tesla being worth $100 billion, and it is worth $600 billion today.</p><p>As for knocking it out of the park, Tesla has certainly done it with the Model Y. The vehicle is as big of a success as it gets.</p><p>I assume that Musk means that Tesla will have to do that again with the next-generation vehicles and Full Self-Driving.</p><p>Those are big ifs.</p></body></html>","source":"electrek_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nElon Musk Thinks Tesla Can Reach $4 Trillion Valuation\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-11-03 14:04 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://electrek.co/2023/11/02/elon-musk-thinks-tesla-tsla-4-trillion-valuation/><strong>Electrek</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.The CEO has often commented on the potential market capitalization of Tesla....</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2023/11/02/elon-musk-thinks-tesla-tsla-4-trillion-valuation/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://electrek.co/2023/11/02/elon-musk-thinks-tesla-tsla-4-trillion-valuation/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2380395295","content_text":"Elon Musk believes that Tesla (TSLA) can reach a $4 trillion valuation if they “knock the ball out of the park” a few times.The CEO has often commented on the potential market capitalization of Tesla.Most famously, he said that Tesla could be worth more than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined back in October 2022.However, Tesla’s stock is down 4% since Musk made that comment last year. The NASDAQ is up 20% over the same period:Lately, the stock has been frustrating Tesla investors with a 17% drop over just the last month.Recently, Ron Baron, hedge fund manager and long-time Tesla investor, went on MarketWatch to reiterate his vision that Tesla would become a $4 trillion company.He believes that Tesla will achieve that by becoming a battery company:“In the case of Tesla, we are convinced that people cannot do what they’re doing and that, ultimately, it’s not just going to be a car company and it’s not just going to be a battery company. All the other car companies, which 50 years ago, elected to become much more profitable and outsource supplies and compute to other people. We’re going to be like Intel was inside of computers. This is going to be Tesla inside of cars. All the cars are going to be using Tesla autonomous driving. No one else can possibly compete.”Musk commented on the idea that Tesla could become a $4 trillion company – agreeing, but adding that it would need to “knock the ball out of the park several times”:“We do need to knock the ball out of the park several times to achieve that value, but I think we can.”Tesla is currently valued at over $600 million.Electrek’s Take$4 trillion sounds ridiculous, and it very well might be, but most people said the same thing about Tesla being worth $100 billion, and it is worth $600 billion today.As for knocking it out of the park, Tesla has certainly done it with the Model Y. The vehicle is as big of a success as it gets.I assume that Musk means that Tesla will have to do that again with the next-generation vehicles and Full Self-Driving.Those are big ifs.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":333,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":224643883687936,"gmtCreate":1695853760214,"gmtModify":1695853765031,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"lol&nbsp;","listText":"lol&nbsp;","text":"lol","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/224643883687936","repostId":"2370202522","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2370202522","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1695810707,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2370202522?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-09-27 18:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Wait! Don’t Buy Tesla Stock Before This Crucial Date","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2370202522","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Tesla and its chief executive remain quite controversial in 2023. Until more data comes in, it's wise to hold off on buying TSLA stock.","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>An important day for <strong>Tesla</strong> (<strong><u>TSLA</u></strong>) is coming in early October.</p></li><li><p>Furthermore, the long-term outlook for Tesla is unknown and there’s no firm consensus on Wall Street.</p></li><li><p>Investors don’t have to sell TSLA stock, but there’s no hurry to buy any shares now.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d56db6858414010314163a5a690eec3b\" alt=\"Source: Arina P Habich / Shutterstock.com\" title=\"Source: Arina P Habich / Shutterstock.com\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"432\"/><span>Source: Arina P Habich / Shutterstock.com</span></p><p>Elon Musk, the CEO of electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer <strong>Tesla </strong>(NASDAQ:<strong><u>TSLA</u></strong>), is unpredictable. That’s one of the reasons TSLA stock can soar one month but then plunge the next month. The best strategy right now is to avoid the Tesla roller coaster until more data comes in, which will happen next month.</p><p>At the same time, it’s important to keep track of the major news items pertaining to Tesla. As we’ll see, Tesla has been the center of attention for multiple reasons. There’s little to no consensus about Tesla’s future prospects — but then, that’s probably why Musk and his company continue to captivate investors’ attention.</p><h2 id=\"id_2606495295\">Tesla Share Price Predictions: $24 or $2,000?</h2><p>When I say that there’s no established consensus about Tesla, I’m not exaggerating. On one end of the bear-bull spectrum, GLJ Research analyst Gordon Johnson believes that TSLA stock is worth around $24 per share. Meanwhile, Cathie Wood of <strong>ARK Invest</strong> reportedly expects the Tesla share price to reach $2,000 in the coming years. (On the other hand, Wood evidently sold 170,000 Tesla shares not long ago.)</p><p>This, along with Musk’s unpredictable temperament, only adds to the market’s confusion about Tesla. Some folks admire Musk, while famous investor Jeremy Grantham reportedly called the Tesla CEO a “wonderful propagandist” who generated money “out of thin air” to make his company succeed.</p><p>At the end of the day, it’s wise to ignore the extremely low and high TSLA stock forecasts. Instead, focus on the coming quarters and take note of Tesla’s headwinds and tailwinds. For example, Tesla will probably benefit from the ongoing United Auto Workers (UAW) strike in Detroit.</p><p>Furthermore, Tesla appears to be expanding abroad, as the company has “drawn up plans to make and sell battery storage systems in India,” according to <em>Reuters</em>. Not only that, but Tesla has “been in talks about setting up a new” EV factory “in India to build a car priced around $24,000.”</p><h2 id=\"id_1171835633\">TSLA Stock Traders: Mark These Two Dates</h2><p>Along with all of those considerations, investors also need to take note of Tesla’s challenges in China. From Sept. 11 to Sept. 17, the automaker only sold 240 Tesla Model 3 sedans in China. In contrast, the typical Model 3 sales figure in China has been between 2,000 and 3,000 units per week.</p><p>Clearly, Tesla’s investors have a lot to think about. Their concerns are likely to compound in October, as there are two crucial dates to mark down. The first one is Oct. 2, as Tesla is expected to release its latest round of delivery data on or around that date.</p><p>In addition, Tesla is getting ready to report its third-quarter 2023 earnings results on or around Oct. 18. Barclays analysts are bracing for disappointment, as they “expect 3Q deliveries of 455k units, a miss vs. consensus of 463k, and also below our currently published [estimate] of 483k.”</p><h2 id=\"id_3291089972\">TSLA Stock: Hold It, But Don’t Buy It Now</h2><p>I’ve thrown a lot of information at you, and it’s probably hard to keep track of it all. And apparently, there’s more data coming next month. Hence, you’ll need to be nimble if you intend to trade Tesla shares long or short during the next couple of weeks.</p><p>Instead of trying to be nimble and outsmart the market, it’s prudent to stay out of the trade for a little while. I’m not saying that anyone needs to dump his or her Tesla shares. If you have a bullish long-term outlook for Tesla, it’s fine to hold your share position.</p><p>Yet, there’s no need to hastily add to your TSLA stock position right now. We’ll all be privy to new information about Tesla in October.</p><p>Consequently, investors should let the stock make its volatile moves in the near term. Then, after the Oct. 18 quarterly data release, decide whether you’re ready to start or add to your share position in Tesla for the long haul.</p></body></html>","source":"investorplace_stock_picks","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Wait! 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Don’t Buy Tesla Stock Before This Crucial Date\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-09-27 18:31 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2023/09/wait-dont-buy-tsla-stock-before-this-crucial-date/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>An important day for Tesla (TSLA) is coming in early October.Furthermore, the long-term outlook for Tesla is unknown and there’s no firm consensus on Wall Street.Investors don’t have to sell TSLA ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2023/09/wait-dont-buy-tsla-stock-before-this-crucial-date/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","BK4588":"碎股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU1914381329.SGD":"Allianz Best Styles Global Equity Cl ET Acc H2-SGD","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","BK4574":"无人驾驶","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","BK4581":"高盛持仓"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2023/09/wait-dont-buy-tsla-stock-before-this-crucial-date/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2370202522","content_text":"An important day for Tesla (TSLA) is coming in early October.Furthermore, the long-term outlook for Tesla is unknown and there’s no firm consensus on Wall Street.Investors don’t have to sell TSLA stock, but there’s no hurry to buy any shares now.Source: Arina P Habich / Shutterstock.comElon Musk, the CEO of electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), is unpredictable. That’s one of the reasons TSLA stock can soar one month but then plunge the next month. The best strategy right now is to avoid the Tesla roller coaster until more data comes in, which will happen next month.At the same time, it’s important to keep track of the major news items pertaining to Tesla. As we’ll see, Tesla has been the center of attention for multiple reasons. There’s little to no consensus about Tesla’s future prospects — but then, that’s probably why Musk and his company continue to captivate investors’ attention.Tesla Share Price Predictions: $24 or $2,000?When I say that there’s no established consensus about Tesla, I’m not exaggerating. On one end of the bear-bull spectrum, GLJ Research analyst Gordon Johnson believes that TSLA stock is worth around $24 per share. Meanwhile, Cathie Wood of ARK Invest reportedly expects the Tesla share price to reach $2,000 in the coming years. (On the other hand, Wood evidently sold 170,000 Tesla shares not long ago.)This, along with Musk’s unpredictable temperament, only adds to the market’s confusion about Tesla. Some folks admire Musk, while famous investor Jeremy Grantham reportedly called the Tesla CEO a “wonderful propagandist” who generated money “out of thin air” to make his company succeed.At the end of the day, it’s wise to ignore the extremely low and high TSLA stock forecasts. Instead, focus on the coming quarters and take note of Tesla’s headwinds and tailwinds. For example, Tesla will probably benefit from the ongoing United Auto Workers (UAW) strike in Detroit.Furthermore, Tesla appears to be expanding abroad, as the company has “drawn up plans to make and sell battery storage systems in India,” according to Reuters. Not only that, but Tesla has “been in talks about setting up a new” EV factory “in India to build a car priced around $24,000.”TSLA Stock Traders: Mark These Two DatesAlong with all of those considerations, investors also need to take note of Tesla’s challenges in China. From Sept. 11 to Sept. 17, the automaker only sold 240 Tesla Model 3 sedans in China. In contrast, the typical Model 3 sales figure in China has been between 2,000 and 3,000 units per week.Clearly, Tesla’s investors have a lot to think about. Their concerns are likely to compound in October, as there are two crucial dates to mark down. The first one is Oct. 2, as Tesla is expected to release its latest round of delivery data on or around that date.In addition, Tesla is getting ready to report its third-quarter 2023 earnings results on or around Oct. 18. Barclays analysts are bracing for disappointment, as they “expect 3Q deliveries of 455k units, a miss vs. consensus of 463k, and also below our currently published [estimate] of 483k.”TSLA Stock: Hold It, But Don’t Buy It NowI’ve thrown a lot of information at you, and it’s probably hard to keep track of it all. And apparently, there’s more data coming next month. Hence, you’ll need to be nimble if you intend to trade Tesla shares long or short during the next couple of weeks.Instead of trying to be nimble and outsmart the market, it’s prudent to stay out of the trade for a little while. I’m not saying that anyone needs to dump his or her Tesla shares. If you have a bullish long-term outlook for Tesla, it’s fine to hold your share position.Yet, there’s no need to hastily add to your TSLA stock position right now. We’ll all be privy to new information about Tesla in October.Consequently, investors should let the stock make its volatile moves in the near term. Then, after the Oct. 18 quarterly data release, decide whether you’re ready to start or add to your share position in Tesla for the long haul.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":277,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":200256987291776,"gmtCreate":1689925230995,"gmtModify":1689925234149,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$26!!!? Hahahaha","listText":"$26!!!? Hahahaha","text":"$26!!!? Hahahaha","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/200256987291776","repostId":"2353078535","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2353078535","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1689917315,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2353078535?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-07-21 13:28","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla's Big Short: Tesla Stock Is Worth Just $26 Per Share","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2353078535","media":"Fortune","summary":"Shares of Tesla sank more than 9% on Thursday after the company reported mixed results for the second quarter. Now, some Wall Street analysts are making the case that it's just the beginning of a nigh","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Shares of Tesla sank nearly 10% on Thursday after the company reported mixed results for the second quarter. Now, some Wall Street analysts are making the case that it&#39;s just the beginning of a nightmare for Elon Musk and company.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e36a0e75116f0d99a67b1613cfc60eeb\" title=\"Tesla CEO Elon Musk\" tg-width=\"1440\" tg-height=\"960\"/><span>Tesla CEO Elon Musk</span></p><p>David Trainer, CEO of the investment research firm New Constructs, believes Tesla is worth just $26 per share after its latest earnings showed deteriorating margins and waning demand. That’s roughly a tenth of the EV giant’s Thursday closing price.</p><p>“Tesla’s (TSLA) second quarter earnings confirm our view that the stock is one of the most overvalued stocks in the market,” the veteran analyst wrote in a Thursday note. </p><p>Although Tesla managed to beat Wall Street’s consensus estimates for the second quarter, reporting revenue of $24.9 billion compared to the forecasted $24.51 billion (and adjusted earnings-per-share of $0.91 against the estimated $0.81), margins came under pressure.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s gross profit margin fell from its fourth quarter 2022 peak of 24% to just 18.2% last quarter, slightly below Wall Street’s consensus estimate for 18.8%. Musk also signaled that third quarter EV production will be down slightly, hinted that more price cuts could be on the way, and flagged an unpredictable economy in the company’s earnings call.</p><p>Tesla has slashed prices on some of its most popular EV models over the past year in an attempt to fight off rising competition and economic headwinds, but the move has some analysts concerned about the firm’s ability to maintain profitability. </p><p>Despite the warnings from bears on Wall Street, Tesla stock has jumped more than 140% year-to-date, recovering from a brutal 2022 where tech and growth stocks were hammered by rising interest rates. </p><p>After more than a year of recession predictions from economists have failed to materialize, many investors have been anticipating a soft landing for the U.S. economy and pricing in a new bull market for tech shares like Tesla, but David Trainer warned that could be a mistake.</p><p>“Tesla’s stock has been rising this year amid a sudden shift in overall market sentiment, with many investors now pricing in a soft landing scenario after a brutal past year of Federal Reserve rate hikes,” he said. “But the shift in market sentiment doesn’t change the fact that Tesla’s stock fundamentals are completely disconnected from reality.”</p><h2 id=\"id_22581469\">5 reasons to be bearish</h2><p>Trainer, whose firm is known for its focus on analyzing corporate fundamentals such as cash flow and profit margins, laid out five main reasons why he’s bearish on Tesla shares Thursday.</p><p>First, he warned that demand for Tesla EVs has become an issue amid rising competition and consistent inflation. Tesla has now produced more vehicles than it sold for five consecutive quarters, and there are hundreds of up and coming EV models set to hit the market over the next few years. </p><p>The only solution to this demand problem is price cuts, Trainer argued, and that brings us to his second key concern—margins. As previously mentioned, Tesla’s gross margins have dropped significantly in the past few quarters due to consistent price cuts and rising costs. And “should demand for EVs slow, Tesla could find itself with higher than wanted inventory levels, which could lead to further price cuts and additional pressure on already falling margins,” Trainer warned.</p><p>Third, Trainer said Tesla is in the middle of a “massive cash burn,” noting that the company has had negative free cash flow—a measure of the amount of cash a company has left after paying its operating expenses and capital expenditures—in all but one year of its existence as a public company (2019).</p><p>“Despite Tesla’s top line growth, it continues to burn massive amounts of cash. Over the past five years, Tesla has burned a cumulative $4.2 billion in free cash flow (FCF), including $3.6 billion over the trailing-twelve months (TTM) alone,” he wrote. </p><p>Fourth, Trainer argued that Tesla bulls rely on lofty estimates for the firm’s full-self driving business and EV charging network in order to value the company, but these business segments “aren’t material” to the bottom line at the moment as some 86% of Tesla’s revenues come from selling cars.</p><p>“Bulls have long argued that Tesla isn’t just an automaker, but rather a technology company with multiple verticals such as insurance, solar power, housing, and, yes, robots. We’ve long refuted these bull dreams,” he wrote. “Regardless of the promises of developing multiple business lines, Tesla’s business remains concentrated in its auto segment.”</p><p>Finally, Trainer believes that with price cuts weighing on margins, and competition from legacy automakers heating up, Tesla’s current valuation just doesn’t make sense. “While Tesla is profitable, its profits are nowhere near the levels needed to justify its current valuation,” he explained.</p><p>Tesla currently trades at roughly 80 times forward earnings compared to just over 25 times forward earnings for tech companies within the S&amp;P 500. </p><p>To determine a more accurate valuation for Tesla, Trainer and his team used a reverse discounted cash flow (DCF) model—a valuation method that estimates the level of future cash flows or profits that would be required to justify a company’s current stock price.</p><p>Using this model they found that Tesla would need to achieve a nearly unprecedented 129% return on invested capital (ROIC) and become more than twice as profitable as Apple by 2032 in order to justify its current share price. </p><p>For reference, Tesla’s trailing twelve month ROIC is just 24%, according to Morningstar data, and although the company earned a record profit of $12.6 billion last year, that was still dwarfed by Apple’s $99.8 billion profit. </p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0e70b4d8695bab0f6c39309ed7d8639a\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"547\"/></p><p>“We aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation,” Trainer wrote. “Even doing so, we find that Tesla is significantly overvalued.”</p><h2 id=\"id_2572859896\">The bull case</h2><p>Of course, for every bear, there’s a bull—and Tesla has its fair share of bulls. Take Wedbush’s top tech analyst Dan Ives, for example. Ives saw Tesla’s second quarter earnings in a very different light than Trainer and the bears. </p><p>He argued in a Thursday note that Tesla’s gross margins, which Trainer fears will continue to fall, are in &#34;stabilization mode,&#34; Musk’s price cuts have helped boost demand for Tesla’s EVs, and the company’s full self-driving (FSD) A.I. technology and EV charging network will help boost profits for years to come.</p><p>“This is the ‘golden vision’ as Tesla is now monetizing its supercharger network with batteries and AI/FSD next adding to the sum-of-the-parts story for Tesla,” he wrote in a Thursday note, reiterating his buy-equivalent “outperform” rating and raising his 12-month price target from $300 to $350.  </p><p>Ives&#39; comments echo those of Musk, who argued Thursday that recent price cuts are leading to “minor” and “short-term” variances in gross margin, but ultimately FSD will be the real money maker. “Autonomy will make all of these numbers look silly,” the billionaire said.</p><p>And while Trainer warned that Tesla would need to make nearly twice Apple’s current profits in order to justify its current valuation by 2032, Ives doesn’t see that as being so outlandish.</p><p>“In a nutshell, we view Tesla where Apple was in the 2008/2009 period as Cupertino was just starting to monetize its services and golden ecosystem with the Street not seeing the broader golden vision at the time,” he said. “We view this quarter as a major step in the right direction as Tesla is playing chess while others play checkers.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1618285953446","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla's Big Short: Tesla Stock Is Worth Just $26 Per Share</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla's Big Short: Tesla Stock Is Worth Just $26 Per Share\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-07-21 13:28 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://fortune.com/2023/07/20/tesla-stock-price-outlook-most-overvalued-worth-tenth-current-share-price-new-constructs-david-trainer/><strong>Fortune</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Shares of Tesla sank nearly 10% on Thursday after the company reported mixed results for the second quarter. Now, some Wall Street analysts are making the case that it's just the beginning of a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://fortune.com/2023/07/20/tesla-stock-price-outlook-most-overvalued-worth-tenth-current-share-price-new-constructs-david-trainer/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","BK4099":"汽车制造商","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","BK4555":"新能源车","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","BK4211":"区域性银行","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","BK4080":"零售业房地产投资信托","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4588":"碎股","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","BK4231":"零售房地产信托","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC"},"source_url":"https://fortune.com/2023/07/20/tesla-stock-price-outlook-most-overvalued-worth-tenth-current-share-price-new-constructs-david-trainer/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2353078535","content_text":"Shares of Tesla sank nearly 10% on Thursday after the company reported mixed results for the second quarter. Now, some Wall Street analysts are making the case that it's just the beginning of a nightmare for Elon Musk and company.Tesla CEO Elon MuskDavid Trainer, CEO of the investment research firm New Constructs, believes Tesla is worth just $26 per share after its latest earnings showed deteriorating margins and waning demand. That’s roughly a tenth of the EV giant’s Thursday closing price.“Tesla’s (TSLA) second quarter earnings confirm our view that the stock is one of the most overvalued stocks in the market,” the veteran analyst wrote in a Thursday note. Although Tesla managed to beat Wall Street’s consensus estimates for the second quarter, reporting revenue of $24.9 billion compared to the forecasted $24.51 billion (and adjusted earnings-per-share of $0.91 against the estimated $0.81), margins came under pressure.Tesla's gross profit margin fell from its fourth quarter 2022 peak of 24% to just 18.2% last quarter, slightly below Wall Street’s consensus estimate for 18.8%. Musk also signaled that third quarter EV production will be down slightly, hinted that more price cuts could be on the way, and flagged an unpredictable economy in the company’s earnings call.Tesla has slashed prices on some of its most popular EV models over the past year in an attempt to fight off rising competition and economic headwinds, but the move has some analysts concerned about the firm’s ability to maintain profitability. Despite the warnings from bears on Wall Street, Tesla stock has jumped more than 140% year-to-date, recovering from a brutal 2022 where tech and growth stocks were hammered by rising interest rates. After more than a year of recession predictions from economists have failed to materialize, many investors have been anticipating a soft landing for the U.S. economy and pricing in a new bull market for tech shares like Tesla, but David Trainer warned that could be a mistake.“Tesla’s stock has been rising this year amid a sudden shift in overall market sentiment, with many investors now pricing in a soft landing scenario after a brutal past year of Federal Reserve rate hikes,” he said. “But the shift in market sentiment doesn’t change the fact that Tesla’s stock fundamentals are completely disconnected from reality.”5 reasons to be bearishTrainer, whose firm is known for its focus on analyzing corporate fundamentals such as cash flow and profit margins, laid out five main reasons why he’s bearish on Tesla shares Thursday.First, he warned that demand for Tesla EVs has become an issue amid rising competition and consistent inflation. Tesla has now produced more vehicles than it sold for five consecutive quarters, and there are hundreds of up and coming EV models set to hit the market over the next few years. The only solution to this demand problem is price cuts, Trainer argued, and that brings us to his second key concern—margins. As previously mentioned, Tesla’s gross margins have dropped significantly in the past few quarters due to consistent price cuts and rising costs. And “should demand for EVs slow, Tesla could find itself with higher than wanted inventory levels, which could lead to further price cuts and additional pressure on already falling margins,” Trainer warned.Third, Trainer said Tesla is in the middle of a “massive cash burn,” noting that the company has had negative free cash flow—a measure of the amount of cash a company has left after paying its operating expenses and capital expenditures—in all but one year of its existence as a public company (2019).“Despite Tesla’s top line growth, it continues to burn massive amounts of cash. Over the past five years, Tesla has burned a cumulative $4.2 billion in free cash flow (FCF), including $3.6 billion over the trailing-twelve months (TTM) alone,” he wrote. Fourth, Trainer argued that Tesla bulls rely on lofty estimates for the firm’s full-self driving business and EV charging network in order to value the company, but these business segments “aren’t material” to the bottom line at the moment as some 86% of Tesla’s revenues come from selling cars.“Bulls have long argued that Tesla isn’t just an automaker, but rather a technology company with multiple verticals such as insurance, solar power, housing, and, yes, robots. We’ve long refuted these bull dreams,” he wrote. “Regardless of the promises of developing multiple business lines, Tesla’s business remains concentrated in its auto segment.”Finally, Trainer believes that with price cuts weighing on margins, and competition from legacy automakers heating up, Tesla’s current valuation just doesn’t make sense. “While Tesla is profitable, its profits are nowhere near the levels needed to justify its current valuation,” he explained.Tesla currently trades at roughly 80 times forward earnings compared to just over 25 times forward earnings for tech companies within the S&P 500. To determine a more accurate valuation for Tesla, Trainer and his team used a reverse discounted cash flow (DCF) model—a valuation method that estimates the level of future cash flows or profits that would be required to justify a company’s current stock price.Using this model they found that Tesla would need to achieve a nearly unprecedented 129% return on invested capital (ROIC) and become more than twice as profitable as Apple by 2032 in order to justify its current share price. For reference, Tesla’s trailing twelve month ROIC is just 24%, according to Morningstar data, and although the company earned a record profit of $12.6 billion last year, that was still dwarfed by Apple’s $99.8 billion profit. “We aim to provide inarguably best-case scenarios for assessing the expectations for future market share and profits reflected in Tesla’s stock market valuation,” Trainer wrote. “Even doing so, we find that Tesla is significantly overvalued.”The bull caseOf course, for every bear, there’s a bull—and Tesla has its fair share of bulls. Take Wedbush’s top tech analyst Dan Ives, for example. Ives saw Tesla’s second quarter earnings in a very different light than Trainer and the bears. He argued in a Thursday note that Tesla’s gross margins, which Trainer fears will continue to fall, are in \"stabilization mode,\" Musk’s price cuts have helped boost demand for Tesla’s EVs, and the company’s full self-driving (FSD) A.I. technology and EV charging network will help boost profits for years to come.“This is the ‘golden vision’ as Tesla is now monetizing its supercharger network with batteries and AI/FSD next adding to the sum-of-the-parts story for Tesla,” he wrote in a Thursday note, reiterating his buy-equivalent “outperform” rating and raising his 12-month price target from $300 to $350.  Ives' comments echo those of Musk, who argued Thursday that recent price cuts are leading to “minor” and “short-term” variances in gross margin, but ultimately FSD will be the real money maker. “Autonomy will make all of these numbers look silly,” the billionaire said.And while Trainer warned that Tesla would need to make nearly twice Apple’s current profits in order to justify its current valuation by 2032, Ives doesn’t see that as being so outlandish.“In a nutshell, we view Tesla where Apple was in the 2008/2009 period as Cupertino was just starting to monetize its services and golden ecosystem with the Street not seeing the broader golden vision at the time,” he said. “We view this quarter as a major step in the right direction as Tesla is playing chess while others play checkers.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":259,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":188022276501728,"gmtCreate":1686929547750,"gmtModify":1686931839537,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Here he goes again. 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(NASDAQ:TSLA), we can expect TSLA&#39;s growth and profitability to suffer. That means that TSLA&#39;s P/E and PEG likely will come down. The way that is accomplished is by a falling price for TSLA stock. That is exactly what is happening, as you can see on the chart below.</p><p>Tesla is in a bear market looking for a bottom, not unlike the overall market, as represented by SPDR® S&amp;P 500 ETF Trust (SPY). The overvaluation of the mega-cap stocks that move the SPY higher continues. When the recession comes, these overvalued stocks should drop to the levels of last October, if not lower, especially TSLA with a Beta of 2. You can see the SPY breakout on the chart below, and we think this is the last hurrah for the October bounce. When the SPY turns down, it should take TSLA with it.</p><p>Everyone knows the growth cycle. The new company is growing like crazy and then the competition comes alive. The growth begins to slow, especially as the company becomes larger and larger. 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However, bottom fishers do buy underperforming stocks like TSLA if the price is low enough.</p><p>Now, if TSLA could beat all the competition and maintain its aggressive growth in the future, that would change the downtrends. If its earnings revisions improved dramatically, that would change the downtrends. However, the market right now does not see that happening for TSLA and that is why price continues to drop. Great company, great profits, ahead of the competition, but how long will that last in such a competitive industry? TSLA is going to lose market share and the market is trying to compute how fast that is going to happen and how to value TSLA stock accordingly. Right now it thinks the price is too high. The charts show price dropping for that reason.</p><p>In our previous article, we showed the downtrends and the sell signal after earnings. When price gapped down after earnings, the bargain hunters came in and took the price back up, filling the gap down. This is classical technical movement of price. TSLA is in a downtrend, but it is not going to dive to the bottom. It is moving down in a very orderly manner to the next support level and then bouncing as the bargain hunters come in again. Then it goes down lower than before, forming the classical lower-high and lower-low in price until it finally hits bottom.</p><p>You can see the last bottom was $102 and you can see price moving in a slow, and orderly manner, back down to retest that price. As noted above, any improvement in growth, earnings revisions and profit margins would change the outcome. We don&#39;t think that happens. We see the growing competition taking market share from TSLA. The competition has shown that they are willing to lose money to catch up with TSLA.</p><p>Technically, we look for bounces in prices to change our Sell Signals. In the case of TSLA, we can see that the current bounce has not changed our Sell Signal, which uses both technicals and fundamentals. When this happens on a bounce, that becomes a confirmation of the Sell Signal and we expect the stock to move lower. That is what you can see on this weekly chart below:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e4ff653f9f3ba4cd18dd5631fbee0fd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"884\"/></p><p>TSLA bounce fails to change sell signals. (stockcharts.com)</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the market has recently helped the TSLA stock price, along with the Musk interview. As you can see on the SPY chart below, there is a positive breakout above $420. This was caused by positive, no-default talk, but on Friday negotiations broke down and the SPY dropped below $420 looking for support at $415. On Sunday, Biden was on TV about negotiations and in touch with McCarthy.</p><p>Here is the daily SPY chart, and it still is holding on to our vertical, blue line buy signal. 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(NASDAQ:TSLA), we can expect TSLA's growth and profitability to suffer. That means that TSLA's P/E and PEG likely will come down. The way that is accomplished is by a falling price for TSLA stock. That is exactly what is happening, as you can see on the chart below.Tesla is in a bear market looking for a bottom, not unlike the overall market, as represented by SPDR® S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY). The overvaluation of the mega-cap stocks that move the SPY higher continues. When the recession comes, these overvalued stocks should drop to the levels of last October, if not lower, especially TSLA with a Beta of 2. You can see the SPY breakout on the chart below, and we think this is the last hurrah for the October bounce. When the SPY turns down, it should take TSLA with it.Everyone knows the growth cycle. The new company is growing like crazy and then the competition comes alive. The growth begins to slow, especially as the company becomes larger and larger. Finally it morphs from growth to value, a blue chip paying dividends. TSLA has moved from being aggressive growth to slower growth, but with a long runway still ahead of it. The only problem with that picture is that it is overvalued and price has to come down. Then there was the dumping of stock on the market so Elon could buy Twitter. Increased supply brings price down. Plus, institutional ownership of TSLA stock is a very low 44%.All of this is well known by the market and can be seen in price trends. The short, intermediate, and long-term price trends are down and price is continuing a downward movement. You can see this on the chart below. The 200-day moving average, long-term trend is down. So is the intermediate 50-day trend and the short term 20-day trend moving average. TSLA is underperforming the market, and portfolio managers are dumping it because it is hurting their performance. You cannot beat the Index by holding underperforming stocks. However, bottom fishers do buy underperforming stocks like TSLA if the price is low enough.Now, if TSLA could beat all the competition and maintain its aggressive growth in the future, that would change the downtrends. If its earnings revisions improved dramatically, that would change the downtrends. However, the market right now does not see that happening for TSLA and that is why price continues to drop. Great company, great profits, ahead of the competition, but how long will that last in such a competitive industry? TSLA is going to lose market share and the market is trying to compute how fast that is going to happen and how to value TSLA stock accordingly. Right now it thinks the price is too high. The charts show price dropping for that reason.In our previous article, we showed the downtrends and the sell signal after earnings. When price gapped down after earnings, the bargain hunters came in and took the price back up, filling the gap down. This is classical technical movement of price. TSLA is in a downtrend, but it is not going to dive to the bottom. It is moving down in a very orderly manner to the next support level and then bouncing as the bargain hunters come in again. Then it goes down lower than before, forming the classical lower-high and lower-low in price until it finally hits bottom.You can see the last bottom was $102 and you can see price moving in a slow, and orderly manner, back down to retest that price. As noted above, any improvement in growth, earnings revisions and profit margins would change the outcome. We don't think that happens. We see the growing competition taking market share from TSLA. The competition has shown that they are willing to lose money to catch up with TSLA.Technically, we look for bounces in prices to change our Sell Signals. In the case of TSLA, we can see that the current bounce has not changed our Sell Signal, which uses both technicals and fundamentals. When this happens on a bounce, that becomes a confirmation of the Sell Signal and we expect the stock to move lower. That is what you can see on this weekly chart below:TSLA bounce fails to change sell signals. (stockcharts.com)Meanwhile the market has recently helped the TSLA stock price, along with the Musk interview. As you can see on the SPY chart below, there is a positive breakout above $420. This was caused by positive, no-default talk, but on Friday negotiations broke down and the SPY dropped below $420 looking for support at $415. On Sunday, Biden was on TV about negotiations and in touch with McCarthy.Here is the daily SPY chart, and it still is holding on to our vertical, blue line buy signal. 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As of January, Tesla provided a forecast range that was $1 billion less at both the low and high end.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">While Tesla executives have been emphasizing cost-cutting efforts recently, as the company has repeatedly reduced vehicle prices, the carmaker has increased its capex forecast several times in the last nine months. In July, the company was expecting $6 billion to $8 billion for 2022 and the following two years.</p><p>Tesla shares dropped over 2% in premarket trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/43bd226f0c37c7407886ff37b0873fd8\" tg-width=\"826\" tg-height=\"641\"/></p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1120006017","content_text":"Tesla Inc. increased its forecast for capital expenditures again and is now budgeting at least $7 billion for this year.The electric-car maker expects to spend as much as $9 billion in 2023, according to a regulatory filing. 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Analyst Sees These 2 Factors Priming Stock For A 740% Surge!\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Benzinga </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-04-13 14:38</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><h4 style=\"text-align: start;\">ZINGER KEY POINTS</h4><ul><li><p>Tesla stock is currently caught in a rut amid worries concerning competitive pressure.</p></li><li><p>The EV maker is constrained due to a lack of models in the affordability segment, which is where much of the growth is seen currently.</p></li></ul><p>Since reporting its first-quarter deliveries, shares of electric vehicle maker <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla, Inc.</a>, which had a strong run-up this year, have been on a lean trot.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">An analyst, however, sees the possibility of a reignition of the rally.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>What Happened: </strong>Tesla’s total addressable market, or TAM, will increase from 30% to 100% of the industry due to the addition of Cybertruck and the rumored $25,000 Model 2, Black said.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In 2020, the Model Y added 40% of the crossover utility vehicle market to Tesla’s TAM, according to Black, which resulted in Tesla’s stock increasing by 743%, compared to the Nasdaq 100 index, which increased by only 48%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ad449a3b832bb624e70c01ce162c9a7\" tg-width=\"431\" tg-height=\"492\"/></p><p><strong>EV Market Share To Rise: </strong>Black expressed confidence in Tesla&#39;s global EV market share returning to 20%, premised on the Cybertruck and the Model 2 for the masses.</p><p>&#34;Both huge TAMs [are] not currently being advanced. Same as M-Y in CUVs in 2020,&#34; he added.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">He was replying to a comment by one of his Twitter followers who expressed concerns that Tesla will likely continue to bleed share as there is “a new EV every day on the market.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>Price Action</strong>: Tesla closed Wednesday&#39;s session down 3.35% at $180.54.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1163213615","content_text":"ZINGER KEY POINTSTesla stock is currently caught in a rut amid worries concerning competitive pressure.The EV maker is constrained due to a lack of models in the affordability segment, which is where much of the growth is seen currently.Since reporting its first-quarter deliveries, shares of electric vehicle maker Tesla, Inc., which had a strong run-up this year, have been on a lean trot.An analyst, however, sees the possibility of a reignition of the rally.What Happened: Tesla’s total addressable market, or TAM, will increase from 30% to 100% of the industry due to the addition of Cybertruck and the rumored $25,000 Model 2, Black said.In 2020, the Model Y added 40% of the crossover utility vehicle market to Tesla’s TAM, according to Black, which resulted in Tesla’s stock increasing by 743%, compared to the Nasdaq 100 index, which increased by only 48%.EV Market Share To Rise: Black expressed confidence in Tesla's global EV market share returning to 20%, premised on the Cybertruck and the Model 2 for the masses.\"Both huge TAMs [are] not currently being advanced. Same as M-Y in CUVs in 2020,\" he added.He was replying to a comment by one of his Twitter followers who expressed concerns that Tesla will likely continue to bleed share as there is “a new EV every day on the market.”Price Action: Tesla closed Wednesday's session down 3.35% at $180.54.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":253,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9943249799,"gmtCreate":1679508919712,"gmtModify":1679508923538,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nah. It's only worth at max $200.&nbsp;","listText":"Nah. It's only worth at max $200.&nbsp;","text":"Nah. It's only worth at max $200.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9943249799","repostId":"2321953283","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":201,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9940355711,"gmtCreate":1677718504533,"gmtModify":1677718509331,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4108081253060460","idStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.&nbsp;","listText":"Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.&nbsp;","text":"Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9940355711","repostId":"2316678154","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2316678154","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1677712760,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2316678154?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-02 07:19","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Falls 3% As Elon Musk's \"Master Plan 3\" Is Short on Details","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2316678154","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Tesla Inc. stock lost 3% in the extended session Wednesday after the electric-vehicle maker teased a","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla Inc. stock lost 3% in the extended session Wednesday after the electric-vehicle maker teased a &#34;next generation&#34; EV to be part of a bigger push toward electrification but stopped short of details.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b305149f3a4ebb40a006fbbe27e4425\" tg-width=\"820\" tg-height=\"850\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Tesla stock <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> had advanced right after the close after ending the regular trading day down 1.4%.</p><p>The stock then saw losses accelerate as the event progressed. Tesla executives sought to highlight Tesla&#39;s technological prowess, but no date for a next-generation vehicle was offered.</p><p>Tesla had to &#34;fully rethink&#34; the manufacturing process with the goal of improving assembly and making EVs faster and more cheaply, and with a smaller powertrain and lighter.</p><p>Tesla stopped short of giving a timeline for the next-generation car, however.</p><p>Chief Executive Elon Musk took the stage, saying that he didn&#39;t want the day to be for only Tesla investors but for &#34;anyone invested in Earth,&#34; and he wanted to offer &#34;hope and optimism based on actual physics and calculations.&#34;</p><p>&#34;There&#39;s a clear path toward sustainable energy&#34; that doesn&#39;t require destroying natural habitats or austerity, combining energy storage, EVs, and other aspects of electrification, Musk said.</p><p>Musk tweeted nearly a year ago he was &#34;working on&#34; the plan. &#34;Master Plan 2&#34; was released in March 2016, promising a few things that have fallen short of reality, especially around Musk&#39;s hopes for self-driving cars and car-sharing.</p><p>The first plan, from 2006, outlined Tesla&#39;s strategy of starting off with a pricey and highly desirable sports car as a springboard funding to future affordable EVs.</p><p>The newest blueprint comes as Tesla stock regained the $200 level after trading as low as $109.10 in late December. The stock has gained 64% in the quarter so far, and down 30% in the past 12 months.</p><p>That compares with a decline of about 8% for the S&amp;P 500 index  in the past 12 months, and contrasts with a quarterly advance around 3%.</p><p>Tesla in late January reported mixed fourth-quarter results, with revenue  slightly below Wall Street expectations, but injected some optimism in its production outlook for 2023 and promised to rein in costs faster. Musk also told investors that demand for Tesla&#39;s EVs were not a problem.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Falls 3% As Elon Musk's \"Master Plan 3\" Is Short on Details</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Falls 3% As Elon Musk's \"Master Plan 3\" Is Short on Details\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-03-02 07:19</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla Inc. stock lost 3% in the extended session Wednesday after the electric-vehicle maker teased a &#34;next generation&#34; EV to be part of a bigger push toward electrification but stopped short of details.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b305149f3a4ebb40a006fbbe27e4425\" tg-width=\"820\" tg-height=\"850\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Tesla stock <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> had advanced right after the close after ending the regular trading day down 1.4%.</p><p>The stock then saw losses accelerate as the event progressed. Tesla executives sought to highlight Tesla&#39;s technological prowess, but no date for a next-generation vehicle was offered.</p><p>Tesla had to &#34;fully rethink&#34; the manufacturing process with the goal of improving assembly and making EVs faster and more cheaply, and with a smaller powertrain and lighter.</p><p>Tesla stopped short of giving a timeline for the next-generation car, however.</p><p>Chief Executive Elon Musk took the stage, saying that he didn&#39;t want the day to be for only Tesla investors but for &#34;anyone invested in Earth,&#34; and he wanted to offer &#34;hope and optimism based on actual physics and calculations.&#34;</p><p>&#34;There&#39;s a clear path toward sustainable energy&#34; that doesn&#39;t require destroying natural habitats or austerity, combining energy storage, EVs, and other aspects of electrification, Musk said.</p><p>Musk tweeted nearly a year ago he was &#34;working on&#34; the plan. &#34;Master Plan 2&#34; was released in March 2016, promising a few things that have fallen short of reality, especially around Musk&#39;s hopes for self-driving cars and car-sharing.</p><p>The first plan, from 2006, outlined Tesla&#39;s strategy of starting off with a pricey and highly desirable sports car as a springboard funding to future affordable EVs.</p><p>The newest blueprint comes as Tesla stock regained the $200 level after trading as low as $109.10 in late December. The stock has gained 64% in the quarter so far, and down 30% in the past 12 months.</p><p>That compares with a decline of about 8% for the S&amp;P 500 index  in the past 12 months, and contrasts with a quarterly advance around 3%.</p><p>Tesla in late January reported mixed fourth-quarter results, with revenue  slightly below Wall Street expectations, but injected some optimism in its production outlook for 2023 and promised to rein in costs faster. Musk also told investors that demand for Tesla&#39;s EVs were not a problem.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4588":"碎股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","BK4581":"高盛持仓","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","BK4099":"汽车制造商","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2316678154","content_text":"Tesla Inc. stock lost 3% in the extended session Wednesday after the electric-vehicle maker teased a \"next generation\" EV to be part of a bigger push toward electrification but stopped short of details.Tesla stock $(TSLA)$ had advanced right after the close after ending the regular trading day down 1.4%.The stock then saw losses accelerate as the event progressed. Tesla executives sought to highlight Tesla's technological prowess, but no date for a next-generation vehicle was offered.Tesla had to \"fully rethink\" the manufacturing process with the goal of improving assembly and making EVs faster and more cheaply, and with a smaller powertrain and lighter.Tesla stopped short of giving a timeline for the next-generation car, however.Chief Executive Elon Musk took the stage, saying that he didn't want the day to be for only Tesla investors but for \"anyone invested in Earth,\" and he wanted to offer \"hope and optimism based on actual physics and calculations.\"\"There's a clear path toward sustainable energy\" that doesn't require destroying natural habitats or austerity, combining energy storage, EVs, and other aspects of electrification, Musk said.Musk tweeted nearly a year ago he was \"working on\" the plan. \"Master Plan 2\" was released in March 2016, promising a few things that have fallen short of reality, especially around Musk's hopes for self-driving cars and car-sharing.The first plan, from 2006, outlined Tesla's strategy of starting off with a pricey and highly desirable sports car as a springboard funding to future affordable EVs.The newest blueprint comes as Tesla stock regained the $200 level after trading as low as $109.10 in late December. The stock has gained 64% in the quarter so far, and down 30% in the past 12 months.That compares with a decline of about 8% for the S&P 500 index  in the past 12 months, and contrasts with a quarterly advance around 3%.Tesla in late January reported mixed fourth-quarter results, with revenue  slightly below Wall Street expectations, but injected some optimism in its production outlook for 2023 and promised to rein in costs faster. 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Else the stress that Tesla willbring you... darn!!","listText":"Fundamental Tesla is very strongly positioned but recession can take away all of that. Again Investors must be so weary of the intraday dip. It's really notfor the faint hearted. Some said delete this app and come back 5 years later. Better 10 years! Else the stress that Tesla willbring you... darn!!","text":"Fundamental Tesla is very strongly positioned but recession can take away all of that. Again Investors must be so weary of the intraday dip. It's really notfor the faint hearted. Some said delete this app and come back 5 years later. Better 10 years! 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Let’s take a look at this week’s news rundown for TSLA stock investors.</p><p>Top Headlines for TSLA Stock Investors</p><p><i>Tesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with Vale</i></p><p>This news represents a significant step forward in Tesla’s quest to conquer the electric vehicle (EV) battery market. Supply chain constraints, including those stemming from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, have posed significant threats to battery production. For Tesla to confirm a multi-year deal with<b>Vale</b>(NYSE:<b><u>VALE</u></b>), one of the world’s leading nickel producers, is no small thing. It positions the company well to keep producing batteries. Anyone who doubted Tesla’s resources should be reassured of its ability to procure valuable battery materials.</p><p><i>Tesla targets pre-lockdown output in Shanghai by mid-May</i></p><p>Tesla has resumed production in Shanghai and it is determined to make up for lost time. The company has already scaled EV production at the plant back to 80% of its pre-shutdown levels. <i>Reuters</i> reports that while the company is only running one shift at the Shanghai facility, it plans to add another soon. Prior to the recent shutdowns, it was running three. At this rate, Tesla won’t have a problem meeting its goal of returning to its original output by mid-May.</p><p><i>Analyst: Q2 2022 will be “monstrous” for Tesla</i></p><p>Wall Street is still bullish on TSLA stock and one analyst just issued a positive take. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry recently issued a note to investors. “May 2022 is off to an extremely strong [start with] Production, Shipments, and Deliveries,” he wrote. 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TSLA stock was no different, now down 20% for the month.However, Tesla reported some good news this week.The company is planning to expand its gigafactory facilities in both Berlin and Shanghai. Plus, production is already back up to 80% of what it was prior to the Shanghai shutdowns. If both expansion efforts materialize, the factories will be set to continue scaling production and meet the rising demand across both Europe and Asia.Those weren’t the only stories worth paying attention to, though. Let’s take a look at this week’s news rundown for TSLA stock investors.Top Headlines for TSLA Stock InvestorsTesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with ValeThis news represents a significant step forward in Tesla’s quest to conquer the electric vehicle (EV) battery market. Supply chain constraints, including those stemming from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, have posed significant threats to battery production. For Tesla to confirm a multi-year deal withVale(NYSE:VALE), one of the world’s leading nickel producers, is no small thing. It positions the company well to keep producing batteries. Anyone who doubted Tesla’s resources should be reassured of its ability to procure valuable battery materials.Tesla targets pre-lockdown output in Shanghai by mid-MayTesla has resumed production in Shanghai and it is determined to make up for lost time. The company has already scaled EV production at the plant back to 80% of its pre-shutdown levels. Reuters reports that while the company is only running one shift at the Shanghai facility, it plans to add another soon. Prior to the recent shutdowns, it was running three. At this rate, Tesla won’t have a problem meeting its goal of returning to its original output by mid-May.Analyst: Q2 2022 will be “monstrous” for TeslaWall Street is still bullish on TSLA stock and one analyst just issued a positive take. 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Musk himself also has described user-friendly tweaks to the service, such as an edit button and defeating &#34;spam bots&#34; that send overwhelming amounts of unwanted tweets.</p><p>Discussions over the deal, which last week appeared uncertain, accelerated over the weekend after Musk wooed Twitter shareholders with financing details of his offer.</p><p>Under pressure, Twitter started negotiating with Musk to buy the company at the proposed $54.20 per share price.</p><p>&#34;Free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated,&#34; Musk said in a statement.</p><p>Twitter shares rose 5.7% on Monday to close at $51.70. The deal represents a near 40% premium to the closing price the day before Musk disclosed he had bought a more than 9% stake.</p><p>Even so, the offer is below the $70 range where Twitter was trading last year.</p><p>&#34;I think if the company were given enough time to transform, we would have made substantially more than what Musk is currently offering,&#34; said Jonathan Boyar, managing director at Boyar Value Group, which holds a stake in Twitter.</p><p>However, he added, &#34;this transaction reinforces our belief that if the public markets do not properly value a company, an acquirer eventually will.&#34;</p><p>Musk’s move continues a tradition of billionaires buying control of influential media platforms that include Rupert Murdoch’s takeover of the New York Post in 1976 and the Wall Street Journal in 2007 and Jeff Bezos’ 2013 acquisition of the Washington Post.</p><p>Twitter said Musk secured $25.5 billion of debt and margin loan financing and is providing a $21 billion equity commitment.</p><p>Musk, who is worth $268 billion according to Forbes, has said he is not primarily concerned with the economics of Twitter.</p><p>&#34;Having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive is extremely important to the future of civilization. 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No regulatory hurdles are expected, analysts said.</p><p>Daniel Ives, an analyst at Wedbush, said the company&#39;s board of directors had its back &#34;against the wall&#34; once Musk detailed his financing package and no other bidders or white knights emerged.</p><p>It was not immediately clear what the breakup fee would be or who would run the new company.</p><p>Twitter&#39;s outsized importance as a mouthpiece for politicians, political dissidents and activists belies its relatively small size.</p><p>Although it is only about a tenth of the size of far larger social media platforms like Meta Platforms Facebook, it has been credited with helping spawn the Arab Spring uprising and accused of playing a role in the Jan. 6, 2021, storming of the U.S. Capitol.</p><p>After Twitter banned former President Donald Trump over concerns around incitement of violence following last year&#39;s U.S. Capitol attack by his supporters, Musk tweeted: &#34;A lot of people are going to be super unhappy with West Coast high tech as the de facto arbiter of free speech.&#34;</p><p>Trump, whose company is building a rival to Twitter called Truth Social, said he will not return to Twitter, according to a Fox News interview.</p><p>The White House declined on Monday to comment on Musk&#39;s deal, but said that President Joe Biden has long been concerned about the power of social media platforms.</p><p> &#34;Our concerns are not new,&#34; said White House spokesperson Jen Psaki, adding that the platforms need to be held accountable. &#34;The president has long talked about his concerns about the power of social media platforms, including Twitter and others, to spread misinformation.&#34;</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TWTR":"Twitter","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1196012393","content_text":"(Reuters) - Elon Musk clinched a deal to buy Twitter for $44 billion cash on Monday in a transaction that will shift control of the social media platform populated by millions of users and global leaders to the world's richest person.It is a seminal moment for the 16-year-old company that emerged as one of the world's most influential public squares and now faces a string of challenges.Musk has criticized Twitter's moderation, calling himself a free speech absolutist, said that Twitter's algorithm for prioritizing tweets should be public and criticized giving too much power on the service to corporations that advertise.Political conservatives hope that a Musk regime would mean less moderation and reinstatement of banned individuals including former President Donald Trump. Musk himself also has described user-friendly tweaks to the service, such as an edit button and defeating \"spam bots\" that send overwhelming amounts of unwanted tweets.Discussions over the deal, which last week appeared uncertain, accelerated over the weekend after Musk wooed Twitter shareholders with financing details of his offer.Under pressure, Twitter started negotiating with Musk to buy the company at the proposed $54.20 per share price.\"Free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated,\" Musk said in a statement.Twitter shares rose 5.7% on Monday to close at $51.70. The deal represents a near 40% premium to the closing price the day before Musk disclosed he had bought a more than 9% stake.Even so, the offer is below the $70 range where Twitter was trading last year.\"I think if the company were given enough time to transform, we would have made substantially more than what Musk is currently offering,\" said Jonathan Boyar, managing director at Boyar Value Group, which holds a stake in Twitter.However, he added, \"this transaction reinforces our belief that if the public markets do not properly value a company, an acquirer eventually will.\"Musk’s move continues a tradition of billionaires buying control of influential media platforms that include Rupert Murdoch’s takeover of the New York Post in 1976 and the Wall Street Journal in 2007 and Jeff Bezos’ 2013 acquisition of the Washington Post.Twitter said Musk secured $25.5 billion of debt and margin loan financing and is providing a $21 billion equity commitment.Musk, who is worth $268 billion according to Forbes, has said he is not primarily concerned with the economics of Twitter.\"Having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive is extremely important to the future of civilization. I don't care about the economics at all,\" he said in a recent public talk.Musk is chief executive of electric car maker Tesla and aerospace company SpaceX, and it is not clear how he much time he will devote to Twitter.\"This is great news for Twitter shareholders as it doesn’t seem like the company was going to get things right anytime soon. Tesla shareholders can’t be happy that Musk will have to divert even more attention away from winning the EV (electric vehicle) race,\" Edward Moya, and analyst at currency broker OANDA, said in an email to clients.Still, Musk's 80 million-strong Twitter account is seen as an important, free public relations tool for Tesla.The Twitter transaction was approved by the board and is now subject to a shareholder vote. No regulatory hurdles are expected, analysts said.Daniel Ives, an analyst at Wedbush, said the company's board of directors had its back \"against the wall\" once Musk detailed his financing package and no other bidders or white knights emerged.It was not immediately clear what the breakup fee would be or who would run the new company.Twitter's outsized importance as a mouthpiece for politicians, political dissidents and activists belies its relatively small size.Although it is only about a tenth of the size of far larger social media platforms like Meta Platforms Facebook, it has been credited with helping spawn the Arab Spring uprising and accused of playing a role in the Jan. 6, 2021, storming of the U.S. Capitol.After Twitter banned former President Donald Trump over concerns around incitement of violence following last year's U.S. Capitol attack by his supporters, Musk tweeted: \"A lot of people are going to be super unhappy with West Coast high tech as the de facto arbiter of free speech.\"Trump, whose company is building a rival to Twitter called Truth Social, said he will not return to Twitter, according to a Fox News interview.The White House declined on Monday to comment on Musk's deal, but said that President Joe Biden has long been concerned about the power of social media platforms. \"Our concerns are not new,\" said White House spokesperson Jen Psaki, adding that the platforms need to be held accountable. \"The president has long talked about his concerns about the power of social media platforms, including Twitter and others, to spread misinformation.\"","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":203,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3553658931361428","authorId":"3553658931361428","name":"yaozong7","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0db82c58fe151c6056334e54bf8ceeee","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3553658931361428","authorIdStr":"3553658931361428"},"content":"in Elon we trust!","text":"in Elon we trust!","html":"in Elon we trust!"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":188022276501728,"gmtCreate":1686929547750,"gmtModify":1686931839537,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Here he goes again. Pushing his company down. Can't he just shut up? Lol","listText":"Here he goes again. Pushing his company down. Can't he just shut up? Lol","text":"Here he goes again. Pushing his company down. Can't he just shut up? 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regarding the company&#39;s stock market value.</p><p>&#34;The value of the company is primarily on the basis of autonomy,&#34; Musk told the Paris VivaTech event.</p><p>He reaffirmed his view that there should be a &#39;pause&#39; on the development of artificial intelligence (AI) and that the AI sector needed regulation.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;There is a real danger for digital superintelligence having negative consequences,&#34; said Musk.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;I am in favour of AI regulation,&#34; he added.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4099":"汽车制造商","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","BK4588":"碎股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H"},"source_url":"https://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2343019135","content_text":"PARIS, June 16 (Reuters) - Tesla's market value is essentially based on 'autonomy', said Tesla CEO Elon Musk on Friday, and Musk added that he 'did not expect that Tesla would be at this level' regarding the company's stock market value.\"The value of the company is primarily on the basis of autonomy,\" Musk told the Paris VivaTech event.He reaffirmed his view that there should be a 'pause' on the development of artificial intelligence (AI) and that the AI sector needed regulation.\"There is a real danger for digital superintelligence having negative consequences,\" said Musk.\"I am in favour of AI regulation,\" he added.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":328,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9022287523,"gmtCreate":1653531679362,"gmtModify":1676535299829,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"If only Elon and Gates and Buffet were close friends. Telsa would prob be in the $2k range today.&nbsp;","listText":"If only Elon and Gates and Buffet were close friends. Telsa would prob be in the $2k range today.&nbsp;","text":"If only Elon and Gates and Buffet were close friends. Telsa would prob be in the $2k range today.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9022287523","repostId":"1169162142","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1169162142","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1653531382,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1169162142?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-05-26 10:16","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Billionaire Bill Gates Is Betting Against TSLA Stock. 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Gates reportedly responded: “Sorry to say I haven’t closed it out. I would like to discuss philanthropy possibilities.”</p><p>Gates did not disclose the Tesla short via a quarterly 13-F filing. This is because the short is most likely an outright short, which is not required to be disclosed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). With that in mind, let’s take a look at what Bill Gates is betting on.</p><h2>What Does Bill Gates Own in His Portfolio?</h2><p>Bill Gates manages two investment vehicles, the <b>Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation</b> and the <b>Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation Trust</b>. The foundation has assets under management (AUM) of$186 million, while the trust has an AUM of$19.76 billion. Let’s go over the details of the trust first.</p><p>As of Q1, the trust’s largest holdings in order are <b>Berkshire Hathaway Class B</b>(NYSE:<b><u>BRK-B</u></b>), <b>Waste Management</b>(NYSE:<b><u>WM</u></b>) and <b>Canadian National Railway</b>(NYSE:<b><u>CNI</u></b>). Gates seems to be a big fan of Warren Buffett, as BRK-B stock accounts for a massive 51% of the trust’s entire holdings. Meanwhile, WM has a 15% allocation, and CNI has a 9% allocation. The trust is also extremely concentrated and holds only 18 positions, while its top 10 positions account for 95.92% of the entire portfolio. During Q1, Gates sold off 5 million shares of BRKB and made no changes to his WM and CNI positions.</p><p>Like his trust, Gates’ foundation is extremely concentrated as well. The fund owns a total of11 positions, with its top 10 positions accounting for 99.89% of the entire portfolio. The foundation’s largest positions in order are <b>Vir Biotechnology</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>VIR</u></b>),<b>CureVac</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>CVAC</u></b>) and <b>LumiraDX</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>LMDX</u></b>). VIR accounts for 21.5% of the foundation’s portfolio, while CVAC and LMDX both account for around 18% of the portfolio. During Q1, Gates purchased 881,363 shares of VIR and sold off 1.42 million shares of CVAC. His LMDX position remained constant.</p><p>The foundation’s portfolio is interesting, as six of the 11 total positions are related to healthcare. This makes sense, as the Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation has an ultimate goal of “fighting poverty, disease, and inequity around the world.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Billionaire Bill Gates Is Betting Against TSLA Stock. 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Here’s Where He’s Putting His Money Instead.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-26 10:16 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/05/billionaire-bill-gates-is-betting-against-tsla-stock-heres-where-hes-putting-his-money-instead/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Bill Gates reportedly has a half a billion dollar short on TSLA stockThe short was revealed through a text message conversation with Elon MuskGates’ largest holding is Berkshire Hathaway Class B(NYSE:...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/billionaire-bill-gates-is-betting-against-tsla-stock-heres-where-hes-putting-his-money-instead/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","BRK.B":"伯克希尔B","BRK.A":"伯克希尔"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/billionaire-bill-gates-is-betting-against-tsla-stock-heres-where-hes-putting-his-money-instead/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1169162142","content_text":"Bill Gates reportedly has a half a billion dollar short on TSLA stockThe short was revealed through a text message conversation with Elon MuskGates’ largest holding is Berkshire Hathaway Class B(NYSE:BRK-B)In April, it was revealed that Bill Gates had a roughly half a billion dollar short position againstTesla(NASDAQ:TSLA). The position was revealed after a text message exchange was disclosed between Gates and Tesla CEO Elon Musk. Furthermore, Musk confirmed the legitimacy of the exchange via a tweet. In the exchange, Musk asks Gates if he still owns a short position against TSLA stock. Gates reportedly responded: “Sorry to say I haven’t closed it out. I would like to discuss philanthropy possibilities.”Gates did not disclose the Tesla short via a quarterly 13-F filing. This is because the short is most likely an outright short, which is not required to be disclosed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). With that in mind, let’s take a look at what Bill Gates is betting on.What Does Bill Gates Own in His Portfolio?Bill Gates manages two investment vehicles, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust. The foundation has assets under management (AUM) of$186 million, while the trust has an AUM of$19.76 billion. Let’s go over the details of the trust first.As of Q1, the trust’s largest holdings in order are Berkshire Hathaway Class B(NYSE:BRK-B), Waste Management(NYSE:WM) and Canadian National Railway(NYSE:CNI). Gates seems to be a big fan of Warren Buffett, as BRK-B stock accounts for a massive 51% of the trust’s entire holdings. Meanwhile, WM has a 15% allocation, and CNI has a 9% allocation. The trust is also extremely concentrated and holds only 18 positions, while its top 10 positions account for 95.92% of the entire portfolio. During Q1, Gates sold off 5 million shares of BRKB and made no changes to his WM and CNI positions.Like his trust, Gates’ foundation is extremely concentrated as well. The fund owns a total of11 positions, with its top 10 positions accounting for 99.89% of the entire portfolio. The foundation’s largest positions in order are Vir Biotechnology(NASDAQ:VIR),CureVac(NASDAQ:CVAC) and LumiraDX(NASDAQ:LMDX). VIR accounts for 21.5% of the foundation’s portfolio, while CVAC and LMDX both account for around 18% of the portfolio. During Q1, Gates purchased 881,363 shares of VIR and sold off 1.42 million shares of CVAC. His LMDX position remained constant.The foundation’s portfolio is interesting, as six of the 11 total positions are related to healthcare. This makes sense, as the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has an ultimate goal of “fighting poverty, disease, and inequity around the world.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":59,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3581934394230212","authorId":"3581934394230212","name":"Tiyenger","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/19f86e7f2a2c2bdd786b78dfd45bd48b","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3581934394230212","authorIdStr":"3581934394230212"},"content":"Gates and buffet are close friends but not with Elon. they have differing views on investment, running a business etc","text":"Gates and buffet are close friends but not with Elon. they have differing views on investment, running a business etc","html":"Gates and buffet are close friends but not with Elon. they have differing views on investment, running a business etc"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9081503674,"gmtCreate":1650249190598,"gmtModify":1676534678891,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Well in the long term Tesla will definitely rise to 5x maybe 10x. Short term wise indeed it's gonna be pumping with adrenaline with Elon having his center stage. &nbsp;🥹","listText":"Well in the long term Tesla will definitely rise to 5x maybe 10x. Short term wise indeed it's gonna be pumping with adrenaline with Elon having his center stage. &nbsp;🥹","text":"Well in the long term Tesla will definitely rise to 5x maybe 10x. Short term wise indeed it's gonna be pumping with adrenaline with Elon having his center stage. 🥹","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9081503674","repostId":"1186698300","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1186698300","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1650247912,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1186698300?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-04-18 10:11","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The ‘Key-Man’ Risk and Tesla Shareholders’ Nerves","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1186698300","media":"Barrons","summary":"It’s not easy riding with Elon Musk on one of his adventures. Tesla stock has been jumpy since he to","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>It’s not easy riding with Elon Musk on one of his adventures. Tesla stock has been jumpy since he took his Twitter stake. On Thursday, after he made his takeover bid, Tesla shares fell 3.7%, shedding $38.6 billion in market value.</p><p>Shareholders are nervous. Many investors see the unpredictable Musk as irreplaceable—the so-called key-man risk. “Tesla is Elon Musk,” says Roth Capital analyst Craig Irwin, likening him to Apple’s Steve Jobs. “He’ll be the most important person at Tesla for the next 20 years.”</p><p>Last year, Tesla shares (ticker: TSLA) fell 16% in two days following a Twitter poll Musk ran asking if he should sell 10% of his stake to pay taxes. The Twitterverse voted “yes,” Musk sold $16 billion in shares—and the stock hasn’t closed above $1,200 a share since. It’s now just under $1,000.</p><p>Accounting for what Musk already owns, buying Twitter could mean selling some 40 million Tesla shares. Of course, Musk could borrow against his Twitter stake, with a loan secured by his Tesla position, or, says Future Fund Active exchange-traded fund founder Gary Black, “line up a private equity backer or lenders who can provide leverage. He can sell some SpaceX shares. He doesn’t necessarily have to sell more [Tesla] stock.”</p><p>Bottom line: Most Tesla shareholders are used to Musk’s non-Tesla activities. In the long run, the stock moves on making and selling electric cars.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The ‘Key-Man’ Risk and Tesla Shareholders’ Nerves</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe ‘Key-Man’ Risk and Tesla Shareholders’ Nerves\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-18 10:11 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-elon-musk-stock-twitter-51650058828?mod=hp_LATEST><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>It’s not easy riding with Elon Musk on one of his adventures. Tesla stock has been jumpy since he took his Twitter stake. On Thursday, after he made his takeover bid, Tesla shares fell 3.7%, shedding ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-elon-musk-stock-twitter-51650058828?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-elon-musk-stock-twitter-51650058828?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1186698300","content_text":"It’s not easy riding with Elon Musk on one of his adventures. Tesla stock has been jumpy since he took his Twitter stake. On Thursday, after he made his takeover bid, Tesla shares fell 3.7%, shedding $38.6 billion in market value.Shareholders are nervous. Many investors see the unpredictable Musk as irreplaceable—the so-called key-man risk. “Tesla is Elon Musk,” says Roth Capital analyst Craig Irwin, likening him to Apple’s Steve Jobs. “He’ll be the most important person at Tesla for the next 20 years.”Last year, Tesla shares (ticker: TSLA) fell 16% in two days following a Twitter poll Musk ran asking if he should sell 10% of his stake to pay taxes. The Twitterverse voted “yes,” Musk sold $16 billion in shares—and the stock hasn’t closed above $1,200 a share since. It’s now just under $1,000.Accounting for what Musk already owns, buying Twitter could mean selling some 40 million Tesla shares. Of course, Musk could borrow against his Twitter stake, with a loan secured by his Tesla position, or, says Future Fund Active exchange-traded fund founder Gary Black, “line up a private equity backer or lenders who can provide leverage. He can sell some SpaceX shares. He doesn’t necessarily have to sell more [Tesla] stock.”Bottom line: Most Tesla shareholders are used to Musk’s non-Tesla activities. In the long run, the stock moves on making and selling electric cars.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":80,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3572923586954779","authorId":"3572923586954779","name":"LimLS","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/217b03b0c4808fb537070ba4e8f9d83f","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3572923586954779","authorIdStr":"3572923586954779"},"content":"5-10x? that's USD 5000-10,000. Even higher that the super bullish Woods of her call for 3000. Most forecast of Tesla price, even for the long term is only at 1500-1800. Let's stay rational.","text":"5-10x? that's USD 5000-10,000. Even higher that the super bullish Woods of her call for 3000. Most forecast of Tesla price, even for the long term is only at 1500-1800. Let's stay rational.","html":"5-10x? that's USD 5000-10,000. Even higher that the super bullish Woods of her call for 3000. Most forecast of Tesla price, even for the long term is only at 1500-1800. 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Coyle’s son, who got into trading during the 2020 retail frenzy, implored him to sell. But he held on, believing in Tesla’s long term potential. He’s now lost about $1.5 million in paper gains.</p><p>“It just all started falling down,” said Coyle, who lives in North Carolina.</p><p>Tesla investors who stayed loyal to Musk over the years are facing a brutal collapse. After a decade of gains that catapulted the company’s market value to more than $1 trillion and made Musk theworld’s richest man, the stock dropped 65% last year, with rising interest rates slamming the tech sector and ending a bull run for stocks.</p><p>In some ways, Tesla was the original meme stock. Back when GameStop Corp. was just a failing video game outlet, an ecosystem of YouTube channels, podcasts and Reddit threads from amateur analysts fostered a devoted community of Musk followers who made a fortune betting on the company’s clean-energy mission and visionary chief executive.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/52b619f66b4aa9081c7877689f32b506\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"665\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Elon Musk</span></p><p>Now, those high-flying days appear to be over. Musk’s controversial Twitter acquisition has rattled investor confidence. He’s sold billions worth of Tesla stock to fund the purchase, and is spending more time running the social media site and tweeting controversial takes on everything from politics and birth rates to the war in Ukraine. Tesla’s share price has slipped 37% since Dec. 1 and the stock is now trading around $123, down from more than $400 at the top.</p><h2>Down to Earth</h2><p>For Musk fans, it’s hard to believe the difference a year makes. Michael Williams, a 49-year-old trader in Utah, first started buying the company’s shares in 2018 and used complicated options strategies to make supersized bets.</p><p>He admits he got lucky. Using calls, he turned about $3,000 in his Robinhood account into “several hundred thousand.” Then he took it a step further, piling about 90% of his 401(k) into Tesla. Soon $40,000 became $800,000.</p><p>It didn’t last. In the middle of 2021, Williams made a couple of bad trades, first losing $600,000 and then $200,000. Now, the value of his 401(k) is down to about $300,000. And that Robinhood account? It has about $50 in it.</p><p>Williams, who works in telecommunications, has sold about half his shares in Tesla, but now plans to slowly build his stake again. He still believes in Musk, though he says the billionaire is prone to “doing dumb things.”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5fc6d7eb5f05df2e35c0f37dfdb48645\" tg-width=\"970\" tg-height=\"559\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><h2>Final Straws</h2><p>Adrian Mora in Denver bought his first Tesla shares in July 2022 after hearing hype around the electric Semi trucks the company started delivering late last year. The 42-year-old, who works for the Department of Veteran Affairs, had recently sold his house and decided to put the money — about $210,000 — into Tesla. His shares have since dropped about 70% in value, and he’s considering selling what’s left.</p><p>“This is my whole life savings,” he said. “I come from a Hispanic family, and you always hear that my people never get ahead because we never invest. But now I see there’s a good reason my people never invest — you can lose all your money.”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c03b4dd1364d47b13a50e14cc66805a4\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"685\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Karim Jovian. Source: Karim Jovian</span></p><p>For Karim Jovian in New York, this year will be crucial in determining whether Tesla can mount a turnaround. The 29-year-old content creator started investing in the car company in 2020 after hearing other social media stars talking up Tesla and its potential. He jumped in after the stock plunged at the start of the pandemic.</p><p>With about 80% of his net worth in the stock now, he’s worried about all the drama surrounding Musk and how that will affect the share price.</p><p>“He talks too much, it’s like, ‘Please shut up,’” Jovian said about the CEO. “I’m definitely considering selling.”</p><h2>Loyal Fans</h2><p>Of course, there are some success stories from Tesla traders who got out at the right time. Doug Coyle’s son Dennis bought $20,000 worth of the company’s stock following the March 2020 crash, a sum that ballooned to $60,000 by July 2021. So the 36-year-old living in New Jersey decided to take that out and use it for a down payment on a $380,000 home in southern New Jersey that he calls his “Tesla house.”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0bfedc1018f8d5fd99cb9e2a474089f0\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"800\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Dennis Coyle and his father Doug. Source: Dennis Coyle</span></p><p>He’s been slowly building back his position since then, and plans to put another $20,000 in when the share price drops to $85 or $80.</p><p>Like father, like son. His dad Doug has faith in Tesla as a company and takes heart in predictions from Ark Investment Management’s Cathie Wood, a longtime believer in the stock whose firm recently said the price will rise to at least $500 by 2026.  However, he does wish that Musk “would keep his mouth shut.”</p><p>“I’m still behind it 100%,” Coyle said. “He&#39;s made me a wealthy person.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk Fan With 2,900% Gain Sees $1.5 Million Wiped Away</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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}\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nElon Musk Fan With 2,900% Gain Sees $1.5 Million Wiped Away\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-01-13 11:51 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/should-i-sell-tesla-tsla-musk-fan-made-millions-then-lost-it-as-stock-plunged?srnd=markets-vp><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla’s brutal performance in the stock market has hammered the fortunes of retail investors who stayed loyal to the once high-flying company.Doug Coyle’s son told him to sell the shares.The 68-year-...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/should-i-sell-tesla-tsla-musk-fan-made-millions-then-lost-it-as-stock-plunged?srnd=markets-vp\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/should-i-sell-tesla-tsla-musk-fan-made-millions-then-lost-it-as-stock-plunged?srnd=markets-vp","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1158526314","content_text":"Tesla’s brutal performance in the stock market has hammered the fortunes of retail investors who stayed loyal to the once high-flying company.Doug Coyle’s son told him to sell the shares.The 68-year-old retired landscaper first started investing in Tesla Inc. in 2012 after hearing about Elon Musk, who wasn’t nearly as famous at the time. Over the next decade he put about $100,000 into the stock, and his investment value ballooned to about $3 million at the peak in November 2021.Then came the plunge, as the pandemic-era tech bubble began to unwind. Coyle’s son, who got into trading during the 2020 retail frenzy, implored him to sell. But he held on, believing in Tesla’s long term potential. He’s now lost about $1.5 million in paper gains.“It just all started falling down,” said Coyle, who lives in North Carolina.Tesla investors who stayed loyal to Musk over the years are facing a brutal collapse. After a decade of gains that catapulted the company’s market value to more than $1 trillion and made Musk theworld’s richest man, the stock dropped 65% last year, with rising interest rates slamming the tech sector and ending a bull run for stocks.In some ways, Tesla was the original meme stock. Back when GameStop Corp. was just a failing video game outlet, an ecosystem of YouTube channels, podcasts and Reddit threads from amateur analysts fostered a devoted community of Musk followers who made a fortune betting on the company’s clean-energy mission and visionary chief executive.Elon MuskNow, those high-flying days appear to be over. Musk’s controversial Twitter acquisition has rattled investor confidence. He’s sold billions worth of Tesla stock to fund the purchase, and is spending more time running the social media site and tweeting controversial takes on everything from politics and birth rates to the war in Ukraine. Tesla’s share price has slipped 37% since Dec. 1 and the stock is now trading around $123, down from more than $400 at the top.Down to EarthFor Musk fans, it’s hard to believe the difference a year makes. Michael Williams, a 49-year-old trader in Utah, first started buying the company’s shares in 2018 and used complicated options strategies to make supersized bets.He admits he got lucky. Using calls, he turned about $3,000 in his Robinhood account into “several hundred thousand.” Then he took it a step further, piling about 90% of his 401(k) into Tesla. Soon $40,000 became $800,000.It didn’t last. In the middle of 2021, Williams made a couple of bad trades, first losing $600,000 and then $200,000. Now, the value of his 401(k) is down to about $300,000. And that Robinhood account? It has about $50 in it.Williams, who works in telecommunications, has sold about half his shares in Tesla, but now plans to slowly build his stake again. He still believes in Musk, though he says the billionaire is prone to “doing dumb things.”Final StrawsAdrian Mora in Denver bought his first Tesla shares in July 2022 after hearing hype around the electric Semi trucks the company started delivering late last year. The 42-year-old, who works for the Department of Veteran Affairs, had recently sold his house and decided to put the money — about $210,000 — into Tesla. His shares have since dropped about 70% in value, and he’s considering selling what’s left.“This is my whole life savings,” he said. “I come from a Hispanic family, and you always hear that my people never get ahead because we never invest. But now I see there’s a good reason my people never invest — you can lose all your money.”Karim Jovian. Source: Karim JovianFor Karim Jovian in New York, this year will be crucial in determining whether Tesla can mount a turnaround. The 29-year-old content creator started investing in the car company in 2020 after hearing other social media stars talking up Tesla and its potential. He jumped in after the stock plunged at the start of the pandemic.With about 80% of his net worth in the stock now, he’s worried about all the drama surrounding Musk and how that will affect the share price.“He talks too much, it’s like, ‘Please shut up,’” Jovian said about the CEO. “I’m definitely considering selling.”Loyal FansOf course, there are some success stories from Tesla traders who got out at the right time. Doug Coyle’s son Dennis bought $20,000 worth of the company’s stock following the March 2020 crash, a sum that ballooned to $60,000 by July 2021. So the 36-year-old living in New Jersey decided to take that out and use it for a down payment on a $380,000 home in southern New Jersey that he calls his “Tesla house.”Dennis Coyle and his father Doug. Source: Dennis CoyleHe’s been slowly building back his position since then, and plans to put another $20,000 in when the share price drops to $85 or $80.Like father, like son. His dad Doug has faith in Tesla as a company and takes heart in predictions from Ark Investment Management’s Cathie Wood, a longtime believer in the stock whose firm recently said the price will rise to at least $500 by 2026.  However, he does wish that Musk “would keep his mouth shut.”“I’m still behind it 100%,” Coyle said. “He's made me a wealthy person.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":153,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9954681876,"gmtCreate":1676326689496,"gmtModify":1676326692871,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another lousy writer","listText":"Another lousy writer","text":"Another lousy writer","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":11,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9954681876","repostId":"2310962775","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2310962775","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1676294159,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2310962775?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-02-13 21:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"My Tesla (TSLA) Stock Price Prediction for 2025","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2310962775","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Tesla (TSLA) stock keeps climbing on hopes that the electric vehicle (EV) maker can continue to win ","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><b>Tesla</b> (<b>TSLA</b>) stock keeps climbing on hopes that the electric vehicle (EV) maker can continue to win despite economic headwinds.</li><li>TSLA stock could keep performing well this year, due to several factors.</li><li>Returns may be far less impressive in 2024 and 2025 as Tesla tries to keep the competition at bay.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9d18ab4194152a873efab2d291a63f65\" tg-width=\"1600\" tg-height=\"900\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Source: Shutterstock</p><p>After doubling off its 52-week lows, <b>Tesla</b> (NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>) stock continues to climb. The market’s high pessimism for TSLA stock at the start of the year seems to have shifted into high optimism. Hopes are that this electric vehicle (EV) maker can continue to thrive despite current economic challenges. Even as other growth stocks pull back on recent macro news, investors are willing to keep bidding up TSLA.</p><p>With all this in mind, you may be wondering what lies ahead for the company from here. In the near term, due to several different factors, shares of this EV play could stay on an upward trajectory.</p><p>However, while TSLA may keep performing well in 2023, investment returns over a longer timeframe (like, say, two years) could end up being far less impressive than many fans of the stock currently expect.</p><p>Let’s dive into my Tesla price prediction for 2025.</p><h2>TSLA Stock Should Stay Elevated (For Now)</h2><p>I’ve expressed skepticism in recent coverage, but I’ll admit that there’s plenty in play that could potentially keep this top EV stock at elevated prices.</p><p>For instance, with Tesla’s much-awaited “Investor Day” just a few weeks away (March 1), more investors could continue to jump into TSLA stock, expecting that the event will include an unveiling of plans for its third-generation vehicle platform. This next vehicle platform could enable Tesla to further reduce manufacturing costs.</p><p>Besides boosting its chances of winning an emerging “EV price war,” production cost reductions may also enable Tesla to introduce lower-priced vehicle models for the mass market. And alongside that, two other things may help TSLA stock sustain (and possibly grow) its current valuation.</p><p>First, upcoming delivery numbers could indicate that Tesla’s recent vehicle price cuts are creating significant demand, which would suggest the company has a shot of hitting CEO Elon Musk’s deliveries stretch goal of 2 million vehicles this year. Second, if the next few quarterly reports indicate that price cuts are not having a big impact on margins — or that increased demand outweighs the impact — that could also bolster investor confidence.</p><h2>Challenges Ahead in 2024 and 2025</h2><p>So, TSLA stock may stay in the fast lane during 2023. However, next year may also be a different story as well as the year after that. Why? Although Tesla is perhaps successfully keeping the competition at bay today, that may not be the case in the years ahead.</p><p>With the aforementioned “EV price war” only in its early stages, it’s unclear how far automakers will go in order to capture a larger piece of the market. Traditional automakers are also tweaking their dealership-based sales models, which could also minimize the edge Tesla gains from its direct-to-consumer model.</p><p>As old school competitors play catch up over the next two years, Tesla could see a serious impact on its future growth, not to mention margins. The company could keep growing at a double-digit clip, but it’s possible said growth decelerates greatly in 2024 and 2025. In turn, this stands to have a big effect on TSLA stock’s future performance.</p><p>Right now, with rising confidence that Tesla will be able to get back to 50% annualized growth, shares have propelled back up to a very high valuation (50 times trailing earnings). If growth decelerates, this valuation will likely contract in a huge way.</p><h2>My Price Prediction for Tesla in 2025</h2><p>Don’t get me wrong. After years of trading at a tech stock valuation, I don’t think TSLA stock is headed toward a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio in line with traditional automakers (less than 10 times earnings).</p><p>However, it’s not far-fetched to believe that, as growth slows, Tesla’s valuation will contract to 20 or 30 times earnings. Per current forecasts, Tesla is expected to earn $6.68 per share by 2025. Apply a 30 times multiple and that yields a price of around $200 per share.</p><p>Sure, factors like the rollout of new vehicle models could outweigh negatives to growth like competition. Yet, looking at the Cybertruck delays as precedent, lower-priced models may be many years away from launch. Hitting consensus may be the best case scenario here.</p><p>With that in mind, I predict that TSLA stock in 2025 will (at best) trade at prices at or near current levels.</p></body></html>","source":"investorplace","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>My Tesla (TSLA) Stock Price Prediction for 2025</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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The market’s high pessimism for TSLA stock at the start of the year seems to have shifted into high optimism. Hopes are that this electric vehicle (EV) maker can continue to thrive despite current economic challenges. Even as other growth stocks pull back on recent macro news, investors are willing to keep bidding up TSLA.With all this in mind, you may be wondering what lies ahead for the company from here. In the near term, due to several different factors, shares of this EV play could stay on an upward trajectory.However, while TSLA may keep performing well in 2023, investment returns over a longer timeframe (like, say, two years) could end up being far less impressive than many fans of the stock currently expect.Let’s dive into my Tesla price prediction for 2025.TSLA Stock Should Stay Elevated (For Now)I’ve expressed skepticism in recent coverage, but I’ll admit that there’s plenty in play that could potentially keep this top EV stock at elevated prices.For instance, with Tesla’s much-awaited “Investor Day” just a few weeks away (March 1), more investors could continue to jump into TSLA stock, expecting that the event will include an unveiling of plans for its third-generation vehicle platform. This next vehicle platform could enable Tesla to further reduce manufacturing costs.Besides boosting its chances of winning an emerging “EV price war,” production cost reductions may also enable Tesla to introduce lower-priced vehicle models for the mass market. And alongside that, two other things may help TSLA stock sustain (and possibly grow) its current valuation.First, upcoming delivery numbers could indicate that Tesla’s recent vehicle price cuts are creating significant demand, which would suggest the company has a shot of hitting CEO Elon Musk’s deliveries stretch goal of 2 million vehicles this year. Second, if the next few quarterly reports indicate that price cuts are not having a big impact on margins — or that increased demand outweighs the impact — that could also bolster investor confidence.Challenges Ahead in 2024 and 2025So, TSLA stock may stay in the fast lane during 2023. However, next year may also be a different story as well as the year after that. Why? Although Tesla is perhaps successfully keeping the competition at bay today, that may not be the case in the years ahead.With the aforementioned “EV price war” only in its early stages, it’s unclear how far automakers will go in order to capture a larger piece of the market. Traditional automakers are also tweaking their dealership-based sales models, which could also minimize the edge Tesla gains from its direct-to-consumer model.As old school competitors play catch up over the next two years, Tesla could see a serious impact on its future growth, not to mention margins. The company could keep growing at a double-digit clip, but it’s possible said growth decelerates greatly in 2024 and 2025. In turn, this stands to have a big effect on TSLA stock’s future performance.Right now, with rising confidence that Tesla will be able to get back to 50% annualized growth, shares have propelled back up to a very high valuation (50 times trailing earnings). If growth decelerates, this valuation will likely contract in a huge way.My Price Prediction for Tesla in 2025Don’t get me wrong. After years of trading at a tech stock valuation, I don’t think TSLA stock is headed toward a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio in line with traditional automakers (less than 10 times earnings).However, it’s not far-fetched to believe that, as growth slows, Tesla’s valuation will contract to 20 or 30 times earnings. Per current forecasts, Tesla is expected to earn $6.68 per share by 2025. Apply a 30 times multiple and that yields a price of around $200 per share.Sure, factors like the rollout of new vehicle models could outweigh negatives to growth like competition. Yet, looking at the Cybertruck delays as precedent, lower-priced models may be many years away from launch. Hitting consensus may be the best case scenario here.With that in mind, I predict that TSLA stock in 2025 will (at best) trade at prices at or near current levels.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":157,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9084839590,"gmtCreate":1650845834431,"gmtModify":1676534801415,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Not so sure this is beneficial to Tesla&nbsp;","listText":"Not so sure this is beneficial to Tesla&nbsp;","text":"Not so sure this is beneficial to Tesla","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9084839590","repostId":"2230872118","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2230872118","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1650844443,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2230872118?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-04-25 07:54","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Twitter Under Shareholder Pressure to Seek Deal With Musk","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2230872118","media":"Reuters","summary":"(Reuters) - $Twitter(TWTR)$ Inc is coming under increasing pressure from its shareholders to negotiate with Elon Musk even though the world's richest person has called his $43 billion bid for the soci","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> Inc is coming under increasing pressure from its shareholders to negotiate with Elon Musk even though the world&#39;s richest person has called his $43 billion bid for the social media platform his best and final offer, people familiar with the matter said on Sunday.</p><p>While the views of Twitter shareholders vary over what a fair price for a deal would be, many reached out to the company after Musk outlined his acquisition financing plan on Thursday and urged it not to let the opportunity for a deal slip away, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.</p><p>Twitter&#39;s board is expected to find that Musk&#39;s all-cash $54.20 per share offer for the company is too low by the time it reports quarterly earnings on Thursday. Nonetheless, some shareholders who agree with that stance still want Twitter to seek a better offer from Musk, whose net worth is pegged by Forbes at $270 billion, the sources told Reuters.</p><p>One option available to Twitter&#39;s board is to open its books to Musk to try to coax him to sweeten his bid. Another would be to solicit offers from other potential bidders. While it is not yet clear which path Twitter will take, it is increasingly likely that its board will attempt to solicit a better offer from Musk even as it rebuffs the current <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a>, the sources said.</p><p>&#34;I wouldn&#39;t be surprised to wake up next week and see Musk raise what he called his best and final offer to possibly $64.20 per share,&#34; one of the fund managers who is invested in Twitter said on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations with the company.</p><p>&#34;He could also drop the whole thing entirely. Anything is possible,&#34; the fund manager said about Musk&#39;s offer.</p><p>Twitter shares closed at $48.93 on Friday, a significant discount to Musk&#39;s offer that reflects the uncertainty over his bid&#39;s fate.</p><p>Twitter adopted a poison pill after Musk made his offer to prevent him from raising his more than 9% stake in the company above 15% without negotiating a deal with its board. In response, Musk has threatened to launch a tender offer that he could use to register Twitter shareholder support for his bid.</p><p>A concern that Twitter&#39;s board is weighing is that unless it seeks to negotiate a deal with Musk, many shareholders could back him in a tender offer, the sources said. While the poison pill would prevent Twitter shareholders from tendering their shares, the company is worried that its negotiating hand would weaken considerably if it was shown to be going against the will of many of its investors, the sources added.</p><p>Musk, the chief executive of electric car maker Tesla Inc, has been meeting with Twitter shareholders since he unveiled his offer on April 14, seeking support for his bid. Musk has said Twitter needs to be taken private to grow and become a genuine platform for free speech.</p><p>Representatives for Twitter and Musk did not immediately respond to requests for comment.</p><p>The Wall Street Journal reported earlier on Sunday on some of Musk&#39;s meetings with Twitter shareholders.</p><p>The price expectations among Twitter shareholders for the deal diverge largely based on their investment strategy, the sources said. Active long-term shareholders, who together with index funds hold the biggest chunk of Twitter shares, have higher price expectations, some in the $60s-per-share, the sources said. They are also more inclined to give Parag Agrawal, who became Twitter&#39;s chief executive in November, more time to boost the value of the company&#39;s stock, the sources added.</p><p>&#34;I don&#39;t believe that the proposed offer by Elon Musk ($54.20 per share) comes close to the intrinsic value of Twitter given its growth prospects,&#34; Saudi Arabia&#39;s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a Twitter shareholder, tweeted on April 14.</p><p>Short term-minded investors such as hedge funds want Twitter to accept Musk&#39;s offer or ask for only a small increase, the sources said. Some of these are fretting that a recent plunge in the value of technology stocks amid concerns over inflation and an economic slowdown makes it unlikely Twitter will be able to deliver more value for itself anytime soon, the sources added.</p><p>&#34;I would say, take the $54.20 a share and be done with it,&#34; said Sahm Adrangi, portfolio manager at Kerrisdale Capital Management, a hedge fund that owns 1.13 million shares in Twitter, or 0.15% of the company, and has been an investor since early 2020.</p><p>One silver lining for Twitter&#39;s board is that Musk&#39;s offer did not appear to convert his army of Twitter followers into new shareholders in the San Francisco-based company who could back his bid, the sources said. Twitter&#39;s retail investor base has increased from about 20% before Musk unveiled his stake on April 4 to some 22%, according to the sources.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Twitter Under Shareholder Pressure to Seek Deal With Musk</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTwitter Under Shareholder Pressure to Seek Deal With Musk\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-04-25 07:54</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> Inc is coming under increasing pressure from its shareholders to negotiate with Elon Musk even though the world&#39;s richest person has called his $43 billion bid for the social media platform his best and final offer, people familiar with the matter said on Sunday.</p><p>While the views of Twitter shareholders vary over what a fair price for a deal would be, many reached out to the company after Musk outlined his acquisition financing plan on Thursday and urged it not to let the opportunity for a deal slip away, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.</p><p>Twitter&#39;s board is expected to find that Musk&#39;s all-cash $54.20 per share offer for the company is too low by the time it reports quarterly earnings on Thursday. Nonetheless, some shareholders who agree with that stance still want Twitter to seek a better offer from Musk, whose net worth is pegged by Forbes at $270 billion, the sources told Reuters.</p><p>One option available to Twitter&#39;s board is to open its books to Musk to try to coax him to sweeten his bid. Another would be to solicit offers from other potential bidders. While it is not yet clear which path Twitter will take, it is increasingly likely that its board will attempt to solicit a better offer from Musk even as it rebuffs the current <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a>, the sources said.</p><p>&#34;I wouldn&#39;t be surprised to wake up next week and see Musk raise what he called his best and final offer to possibly $64.20 per share,&#34; one of the fund managers who is invested in Twitter said on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations with the company.</p><p>&#34;He could also drop the whole thing entirely. Anything is possible,&#34; the fund manager said about Musk&#39;s offer.</p><p>Twitter shares closed at $48.93 on Friday, a significant discount to Musk&#39;s offer that reflects the uncertainty over his bid&#39;s fate.</p><p>Twitter adopted a poison pill after Musk made his offer to prevent him from raising his more than 9% stake in the company above 15% without negotiating a deal with its board. In response, Musk has threatened to launch a tender offer that he could use to register Twitter shareholder support for his bid.</p><p>A concern that Twitter&#39;s board is weighing is that unless it seeks to negotiate a deal with Musk, many shareholders could back him in a tender offer, the sources said. While the poison pill would prevent Twitter shareholders from tendering their shares, the company is worried that its negotiating hand would weaken considerably if it was shown to be going against the will of many of its investors, the sources added.</p><p>Musk, the chief executive of electric car maker Tesla Inc, has been meeting with Twitter shareholders since he unveiled his offer on April 14, seeking support for his bid. Musk has said Twitter needs to be taken private to grow and become a genuine platform for free speech.</p><p>Representatives for Twitter and Musk did not immediately respond to requests for comment.</p><p>The Wall Street Journal reported earlier on Sunday on some of Musk&#39;s meetings with Twitter shareholders.</p><p>The price expectations among Twitter shareholders for the deal diverge largely based on their investment strategy, the sources said. Active long-term shareholders, who together with index funds hold the biggest chunk of Twitter shares, have higher price expectations, some in the $60s-per-share, the sources said. They are also more inclined to give Parag Agrawal, who became Twitter&#39;s chief executive in November, more time to boost the value of the company&#39;s stock, the sources added.</p><p>&#34;I don&#39;t believe that the proposed offer by Elon Musk ($54.20 per share) comes close to the intrinsic value of Twitter given its growth prospects,&#34; Saudi Arabia&#39;s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a Twitter shareholder, tweeted on April 14.</p><p>Short term-minded investors such as hedge funds want Twitter to accept Musk&#39;s offer or ask for only a small increase, the sources said. Some of these are fretting that a recent plunge in the value of technology stocks amid concerns over inflation and an economic slowdown makes it unlikely Twitter will be able to deliver more value for itself anytime soon, the sources added.</p><p>&#34;I would say, take the $54.20 a share and be done with it,&#34; said Sahm Adrangi, portfolio manager at Kerrisdale Capital Management, a hedge fund that owns 1.13 million shares in Twitter, or 0.15% of the company, and has been an investor since early 2020.</p><p>One silver lining for Twitter&#39;s board is that Musk&#39;s offer did not appear to convert his army of Twitter followers into new shareholders in the San Francisco-based company who could back his bid, the sources said. 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Nonetheless, some shareholders who agree with that stance still want Twitter to seek a better offer from Musk, whose net worth is pegged by Forbes at $270 billion, the sources told Reuters.One option available to Twitter's board is to open its books to Musk to try to coax him to sweeten his bid. Another would be to solicit offers from other potential bidders. While it is not yet clear which path Twitter will take, it is increasingly likely that its board will attempt to solicit a better offer from Musk even as it rebuffs the current one, the sources said.\"I wouldn't be surprised to wake up next week and see Musk raise what he called his best and final offer to possibly $64.20 per share,\" one of the fund managers who is invested in Twitter said on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations with the company.\"He could also drop the whole thing entirely. Anything is possible,\" the fund manager said about Musk's offer.Twitter shares closed at $48.93 on Friday, a significant discount to Musk's offer that reflects the uncertainty over his bid's fate.Twitter adopted a poison pill after Musk made his offer to prevent him from raising his more than 9% stake in the company above 15% without negotiating a deal with its board. In response, Musk has threatened to launch a tender offer that he could use to register Twitter shareholder support for his bid.A concern that Twitter's board is weighing is that unless it seeks to negotiate a deal with Musk, many shareholders could back him in a tender offer, the sources said. While the poison pill would prevent Twitter shareholders from tendering their shares, the company is worried that its negotiating hand would weaken considerably if it was shown to be going against the will of many of its investors, the sources added.Musk, the chief executive of electric car maker Tesla Inc, has been meeting with Twitter shareholders since he unveiled his offer on April 14, seeking support for his bid. Musk has said Twitter needs to be taken private to grow and become a genuine platform for free speech.Representatives for Twitter and Musk did not immediately respond to requests for comment.The Wall Street Journal reported earlier on Sunday on some of Musk's meetings with Twitter shareholders.The price expectations among Twitter shareholders for the deal diverge largely based on their investment strategy, the sources said. Active long-term shareholders, who together with index funds hold the biggest chunk of Twitter shares, have higher price expectations, some in the $60s-per-share, the sources said. They are also more inclined to give Parag Agrawal, who became Twitter's chief executive in November, more time to boost the value of the company's stock, the sources added.\"I don't believe that the proposed offer by Elon Musk ($54.20 per share) comes close to the intrinsic value of Twitter given its growth prospects,\" Saudi Arabia's Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a Twitter shareholder, tweeted on April 14.Short term-minded investors such as hedge funds want Twitter to accept Musk's offer or ask for only a small increase, the sources said. Some of these are fretting that a recent plunge in the value of technology stocks amid concerns over inflation and an economic slowdown makes it unlikely Twitter will be able to deliver more value for itself anytime soon, the sources added.\"I would say, take the $54.20 a share and be done with it,\" said Sahm Adrangi, portfolio manager at Kerrisdale Capital Management, a hedge fund that owns 1.13 million shares in Twitter, or 0.15% of the company, and has been an investor since early 2020.One silver lining for Twitter's board is that Musk's offer did not appear to convert his army of Twitter followers into new shareholders in the San Francisco-based company who could back his bid, the sources said. Twitter's retail investor base has increased from about 20% before Musk unveiled his stake on April 4 to some 22%, according to the sources.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":316,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9957513138,"gmtCreate":1677382254524,"gmtModify":1677382258017,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Shorters supported this article&nbsp;","listText":"Shorters supported this article&nbsp;","text":"Shorters supported this article","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9957513138","repostId":"1178083449","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1178083449","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1677373563,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1178083449?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-02-26 09:06","market":"us","language":"en","title":"A One-Way Market Foils Stock Pickers as Fed Trounces Everything","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1178083449","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Repricing of expectations for rates overshadows other factorsGrowth, value stocks moving in lockstep","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li>Repricing of expectations for rates overshadows other factors</li><li>Growth, value stocks moving in lockstep by most since 2005</li></ul><p>Stock pickers who successfully navigated the 2022 bear market are having a harder time making it through the 2023 faltering recovery.</p><p>First, an unexpected risk-on rally in January caught some defensively positioned mutual funds off-guard. Then, stocks started falling pretty much in unison on renewed anxiety about how far the Federal Reserve will go with its rate hikes, ruining efforts to find some way to come out ahead. And as long this one-way wave lasts, equities traders will find few opportunities to make money.</p><p>Consider that the correlation between the movement of growth and value stocks has jumped to the highest level since at least 2005, data compiled by 22V Research show. How are stock pickers supposed to find market dislocations when value and growth are doing the same thing?</p><p>What’s more, the trend seems unlikely to change: A gauge that measures how in sync stocks are expected to move in the future relative to the past has jumped to nearly a one-year high.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/18f563d72e3d117713f49c380611fec0\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"514\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Source: 22V Research</p><p>To Michael O’Rourke, chief market strategist at JonesTrading, S&amp;P 500 stocks will continue to move in closer lockstep until the market is done pricing in the prospect that the Fed will raise its benchmark rate as high as 5.5%. The repricing got underway this week. In the swaps market, traders are now pricing in a 25 basis-point rate hike at each of the next three Fed meetings, which would push it to a range of 5.25%-5.5%.</p><p>The S&amp;P 500 responded by falling 1.1% on Friday and posting its worst week since December. But the full reaction will likely come with a lag, according to O’Rourke.</p><p>“When the dispersion among the S&amp;P 500 members emerges all depends on how quickly it takes for the majority of market participants to realize” that rates are staying higher for longer, he said. “What we are seeing today is the market finally acknowledging that there is no ‘policy pivot’ on the horizon.”</p><h2>Challenging Conditions</h2><p>The fact that the market is back to being driven almost entirely by speculation about the Fed’s path is vexing for active fund managers who seek to outperform the broader indexes. Only 29% of the core mutual funds tracked byBank of America Corp.beat their benchmarks in January. That’s a stark contrast from 2022, when the orderly selloffallowed61% of them do it.</p><p>Conditions may only get more challenging from here. A gauge of implied correlation among S&amp;P 500 stocks over the next 30 days rose to 0.5, compared with 0.3 for a similar gauge of the actual realized correlation. A reading of 1 means securities are moving in sync. The gap between the actual and expected correlations is the highest since early March 2022, when the war in Ukraine and the Fed’s hawkish shift sent markets into a unified drop, data compiled by Bloomberg show.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4814b46d1df78b36b15f675617cc23d5\" tg-width=\"930\" tg-height=\"523\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>A similar picture emerges from the performance of value stocks — like trucks and equipment manufacturers that often trade at a discount to fundamentals — relative to growth companies with high valuations. The correlations between the two turned positive recently and went on to hit the highest since 2005, data compiled by 22V Research show.</p><p>“That leaves forward returns for value and growth more likely to move together near-term,” Dennis DeBusschere, founder of 22V Research, said in a note.</p><p>The good news is the more correlations rise, the more room there is for them to break down once the market finally prices in the Fed’s expected path, according to both DeBusschere and O’Rourke. When that happens, the market will again focus on which sectors will fare best as the tighter monetary policy keeps rippling through the economy.</p><p>“It may take some time, but once the interest rate-related uncertainty settles, it will be a stock pickers’ environment again,” said Michael Purves, founder of Tallbacken Capital Advisors. “But it’s not going to be easy for anyone.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>A One-Way Market Foils Stock Pickers as Fed Trounces Everything</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nA One-Way Market Foils Stock Pickers as Fed Trounces Everything\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-02-26 09:06 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-25/a-one-way-market-foils-stock-pickers-as-fed-trounces-everything><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Repricing of expectations for rates overshadows other factorsGrowth, value stocks moving in lockstep by most since 2005Stock pickers who successfully navigated the 2022 bear market are having a harder...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-25/a-one-way-market-foils-stock-pickers-as-fed-trounces-everything\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".DJI":"道琼斯",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-25/a-one-way-market-foils-stock-pickers-as-fed-trounces-everything","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1178083449","content_text":"Repricing of expectations for rates overshadows other factorsGrowth, value stocks moving in lockstep by most since 2005Stock pickers who successfully navigated the 2022 bear market are having a harder time making it through the 2023 faltering recovery.First, an unexpected risk-on rally in January caught some defensively positioned mutual funds off-guard. Then, stocks started falling pretty much in unison on renewed anxiety about how far the Federal Reserve will go with its rate hikes, ruining efforts to find some way to come out ahead. And as long this one-way wave lasts, equities traders will find few opportunities to make money.Consider that the correlation between the movement of growth and value stocks has jumped to the highest level since at least 2005, data compiled by 22V Research show. How are stock pickers supposed to find market dislocations when value and growth are doing the same thing?What’s more, the trend seems unlikely to change: A gauge that measures how in sync stocks are expected to move in the future relative to the past has jumped to nearly a one-year high.Source: 22V ResearchTo Michael O’Rourke, chief market strategist at JonesTrading, S&P 500 stocks will continue to move in closer lockstep until the market is done pricing in the prospect that the Fed will raise its benchmark rate as high as 5.5%. The repricing got underway this week. In the swaps market, traders are now pricing in a 25 basis-point rate hike at each of the next three Fed meetings, which would push it to a range of 5.25%-5.5%.The S&P 500 responded by falling 1.1% on Friday and posting its worst week since December. But the full reaction will likely come with a lag, according to O’Rourke.“When the dispersion among the S&P 500 members emerges all depends on how quickly it takes for the majority of market participants to realize” that rates are staying higher for longer, he said. “What we are seeing today is the market finally acknowledging that there is no ‘policy pivot’ on the horizon.”Challenging ConditionsThe fact that the market is back to being driven almost entirely by speculation about the Fed’s path is vexing for active fund managers who seek to outperform the broader indexes. Only 29% of the core mutual funds tracked byBank of America Corp.beat their benchmarks in January. That’s a stark contrast from 2022, when the orderly selloffallowed61% of them do it.Conditions may only get more challenging from here. A gauge of implied correlation among S&P 500 stocks over the next 30 days rose to 0.5, compared with 0.3 for a similar gauge of the actual realized correlation. A reading of 1 means securities are moving in sync. The gap between the actual and expected correlations is the highest since early March 2022, when the war in Ukraine and the Fed’s hawkish shift sent markets into a unified drop, data compiled by Bloomberg show.A similar picture emerges from the performance of value stocks — like trucks and equipment manufacturers that often trade at a discount to fundamentals — relative to growth companies with high valuations. The correlations between the two turned positive recently and went on to hit the highest since 2005, data compiled by 22V Research show.“That leaves forward returns for value and growth more likely to move together near-term,” Dennis DeBusschere, founder of 22V Research, said in a note.The good news is the more correlations rise, the more room there is for them to break down once the market finally prices in the Fed’s expected path, according to both DeBusschere and O’Rourke. When that happens, the market will again focus on which sectors will fare best as the tighter monetary policy keeps rippling through the economy.“It may take some time, but once the interest rate-related uncertainty settles, it will be a stock pickers’ environment again,” said Michael Purves, founder of Tallbacken Capital Advisors. “But it’s not going to be easy for anyone.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":411,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9955561745,"gmtCreate":1675571336787,"gmtModify":1676539008051,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Okk","listText":"Okk","text":"Okk","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9955561745","repostId":"2308684441","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2308684441","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1675558051,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2308684441?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-02-05 08:47","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The Stock-Market Rally Survived a Confusing Week. 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GETTY IMAGES/ISTOCKPHOTO</span></p><p>Despite a Friday stumble, stocks ended a turbulent week with another round of solid gains, keeping 2023&#39;s young but robust stock-market rally very much alive.</p><p>But a cloud of confusion also sets over the market, and it will eventually need to be resolved, strategists said.</p><p>Stocks rose early in the week as traders continued to bet that the Federal Reserve won&#39;t follow through on its forecast to push the federal funds rate to a peak above 5% and hold it there, instead looking for cuts by year-end. Fed chief Jerome Powell pushed back against that expectation again on Wednesday, but a nuanced answer to a question about loosening financial conditions and an acknowledgment that the &#34;disinflationary process&#34; had begun convinced traders they remained right about the rate path.</p><p>On Friday, however, a blowout January jobs report, with the U.S. economy adding 517,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropping to 3.4%, its lowest level since 1969, appeared to affirm Powell&#39;s position.</p><p>Stocks took a hit, even if they finished off session lows, with the Nasdaq Composite  booking a fifth straight weekly gain and the S&amp;P 500  achieving back-to-back weekly wins. The Dow Jones Industrial Average  suffered a 0.2% weekly fall.</p><p>&#34;It kind of leaves you shaking your head right now, doesn&#39;t it?&#34; asked Jim Baird, chief investment officer at Plante Moran Financial Advisors, in a phone interview.</p><p>At some point in the coming months there will need to be &#34;a reconciliation between what the markets think the Fed will do and what Powell says the Fed will do,&#34; Baird said.</p><p>The rally could continue for now, Baird said, but he argued it would be wise in the long run to take the Fed at face value. &#34;I think the overall tone of risk taking in the market right now is a little bit too optimistic.&#34;</p><p>Money-market traders did react to Friday&#39;s data. Fed funds futures on Friday afternoon reflected a 99.6% probability that the Fed would raise the target rate by 25 basis points to a range of 4.75% to 5% at the conclusion of its next policy meeting, on March 22, up from an 82.7% probability on Thursday, according to the CME FedWatch tool.</p><p>For the Fed&#39;s May meeting, the market reflected a 61.3% chance of another quarter-point rise to 5% to 5.25%, the level the Fed has signaled is its expected high-water-mark rate. On Thursday, it saw just a 30% chance of a quarter-point rise in May. But markets still look for a cut by year-end.</p><p>Of course, one month&#39;s data do not represent the end of the argument. But unless January&#39;s labor-market strength turns out to be a blip, the hawks on the Fed are likely to dig in and keep rates higher for longer, said Yung-Yu Ma, chief investment strategist at BMO Wealth Management, in a phone interview.</p><p>For markets, the lack of a resolution to the long-simmering disconnect with the Fed could lead to a period of consolidation after an admittedly impressive start to 2023, he said.</p><p>Indeed, the momentum behind the market&#39;s rally could be set to continue. It&#39;s been led by tech and other growth stocks that were hammered in last year&#39;s market rout. Market watchers detect a sense of &#34;FOMO,&#34; or fear of missing out, is driving what some have termed a tech-stock &#34;meltup.&#34;</p><p>&#34;The impressive equity rally to start the year has caught cautious institutional investors, hedge funds, and strategists off guard. While overbought conditions are obvious, the near-universal level of skepticism among institutions provides a contrarian degree of support for continued strength,&#34; said Mark Hackett, chief of investment research at Nationwide, in a Friday note.</p><p>And then there&#39;s earnings season, which has so far seen results from around half of the S&amp;P 500.</p><p>Companies through Friday had reported lower earnings for the fourth quarter relative to the end of the previous week and relative to the end of the quarter.</p><p>The blended earnings decline (a combination of actual results for companies that have reported and estimated results for companies that have yet to report) for the fourth quarter was 5.3% through Friday, compared with an earnings decline of 5.1% last week and an earnings decline of 3.3% at the end of the fourth quarter, according to FactSet. If earnings come out negative for the quarter, it would be the first year-over-year decline since the third quarter of 2020.</p><p>When it comes to earnings, &#34;there&#39;s definitely been a mood of forgiveness in the market,&#34; said BMO&#39;s Ma.</p><p>&#34;I think the market just didn&#39;t want to see a disastrous earnings season,&#34; he said, noting expectations remain for weak earnings in the current quarter and next, with bulls looking into the second half of this year and even into 2024 to get on a better footing.</p><p>For the market, the main driver will remain data on inflation and wage growth, Ma said.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Stock-Market Rally Survived a Confusing Week. 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Here's What Comes Next\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-02-05 08:47</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>A key point of conflict requires resolution</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d84acd0fff9a6d03a294f0091d5a09d\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Investors can be excused for feeling a sense of confusion. GETTY IMAGES/ISTOCKPHOTO</span></p><p>Despite a Friday stumble, stocks ended a turbulent week with another round of solid gains, keeping 2023&#39;s young but robust stock-market rally very much alive.</p><p>But a cloud of confusion also sets over the market, and it will eventually need to be resolved, strategists said.</p><p>Stocks rose early in the week as traders continued to bet that the Federal Reserve won&#39;t follow through on its forecast to push the federal funds rate to a peak above 5% and hold it there, instead looking for cuts by year-end. Fed chief Jerome Powell pushed back against that expectation again on Wednesday, but a nuanced answer to a question about loosening financial conditions and an acknowledgment that the &#34;disinflationary process&#34; had begun convinced traders they remained right about the rate path.</p><p>On Friday, however, a blowout January jobs report, with the U.S. economy adding 517,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropping to 3.4%, its lowest level since 1969, appeared to affirm Powell&#39;s position.</p><p>Stocks took a hit, even if they finished off session lows, with the Nasdaq Composite  booking a fifth straight weekly gain and the S&amp;P 500  achieving back-to-back weekly wins. The Dow Jones Industrial Average  suffered a 0.2% weekly fall.</p><p>&#34;It kind of leaves you shaking your head right now, doesn&#39;t it?&#34; asked Jim Baird, chief investment officer at Plante Moran Financial Advisors, in a phone interview.</p><p>At some point in the coming months there will need to be &#34;a reconciliation between what the markets think the Fed will do and what Powell says the Fed will do,&#34; Baird said.</p><p>The rally could continue for now, Baird said, but he argued it would be wise in the long run to take the Fed at face value. &#34;I think the overall tone of risk taking in the market right now is a little bit too optimistic.&#34;</p><p>Money-market traders did react to Friday&#39;s data. Fed funds futures on Friday afternoon reflected a 99.6% probability that the Fed would raise the target rate by 25 basis points to a range of 4.75% to 5% at the conclusion of its next policy meeting, on March 22, up from an 82.7% probability on Thursday, according to the CME FedWatch tool.</p><p>For the Fed&#39;s May meeting, the market reflected a 61.3% chance of another quarter-point rise to 5% to 5.25%, the level the Fed has signaled is its expected high-water-mark rate. On Thursday, it saw just a 30% chance of a quarter-point rise in May. But markets still look for a cut by year-end.</p><p>Of course, one month&#39;s data do not represent the end of the argument. But unless January&#39;s labor-market strength turns out to be a blip, the hawks on the Fed are likely to dig in and keep rates higher for longer, said Yung-Yu Ma, chief investment strategist at BMO Wealth Management, in a phone interview.</p><p>For markets, the lack of a resolution to the long-simmering disconnect with the Fed could lead to a period of consolidation after an admittedly impressive start to 2023, he said.</p><p>Indeed, the momentum behind the market&#39;s rally could be set to continue. It&#39;s been led by tech and other growth stocks that were hammered in last year&#39;s market rout. Market watchers detect a sense of &#34;FOMO,&#34; or fear of missing out, is driving what some have termed a tech-stock &#34;meltup.&#34;</p><p>&#34;The impressive equity rally to start the year has caught cautious institutional investors, hedge funds, and strategists off guard. While overbought conditions are obvious, the near-universal level of skepticism among institutions provides a contrarian degree of support for continued strength,&#34; said Mark Hackett, chief of investment research at Nationwide, in a Friday note.</p><p>And then there&#39;s earnings season, which has so far seen results from around half of the S&amp;P 500.</p><p>Companies through Friday had reported lower earnings for the fourth quarter relative to the end of the previous week and relative to the end of the quarter.</p><p>The blended earnings decline (a combination of actual results for companies that have reported and estimated results for companies that have yet to report) for the fourth quarter was 5.3% through Friday, compared with an earnings decline of 5.1% last week and an earnings decline of 3.3% at the end of the fourth quarter, according to FactSet. If earnings come out negative for the quarter, it would be the first year-over-year decline since the third quarter of 2020.</p><p>When it comes to earnings, &#34;there&#39;s definitely been a mood of forgiveness in the market,&#34; said BMO&#39;s Ma.</p><p>&#34;I think the market just didn&#39;t want to see a disastrous earnings season,&#34; he said, noting expectations remain for weak earnings in the current quarter and next, with bulls looking into the second half of this year and even into 2024 to get on a better footing.</p><p>For the market, the main driver will remain data on inflation and wage growth, Ma said.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".DJI":"道琼斯",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2308684441","content_text":"A key point of conflict requires resolutionInvestors can be excused for feeling a sense of confusion. GETTY IMAGES/ISTOCKPHOTODespite a Friday stumble, stocks ended a turbulent week with another round of solid gains, keeping 2023's young but robust stock-market rally very much alive.But a cloud of confusion also sets over the market, and it will eventually need to be resolved, strategists said.Stocks rose early in the week as traders continued to bet that the Federal Reserve won't follow through on its forecast to push the federal funds rate to a peak above 5% and hold it there, instead looking for cuts by year-end. Fed chief Jerome Powell pushed back against that expectation again on Wednesday, but a nuanced answer to a question about loosening financial conditions and an acknowledgment that the \"disinflationary process\" had begun convinced traders they remained right about the rate path.On Friday, however, a blowout January jobs report, with the U.S. economy adding 517,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropping to 3.4%, its lowest level since 1969, appeared to affirm Powell's position.Stocks took a hit, even if they finished off session lows, with the Nasdaq Composite  booking a fifth straight weekly gain and the S&P 500  achieving back-to-back weekly wins. The Dow Jones Industrial Average  suffered a 0.2% weekly fall.\"It kind of leaves you shaking your head right now, doesn't it?\" asked Jim Baird, chief investment officer at Plante Moran Financial Advisors, in a phone interview.At some point in the coming months there will need to be \"a reconciliation between what the markets think the Fed will do and what Powell says the Fed will do,\" Baird said.The rally could continue for now, Baird said, but he argued it would be wise in the long run to take the Fed at face value. \"I think the overall tone of risk taking in the market right now is a little bit too optimistic.\"Money-market traders did react to Friday's data. Fed funds futures on Friday afternoon reflected a 99.6% probability that the Fed would raise the target rate by 25 basis points to a range of 4.75% to 5% at the conclusion of its next policy meeting, on March 22, up from an 82.7% probability on Thursday, according to the CME FedWatch tool.For the Fed's May meeting, the market reflected a 61.3% chance of another quarter-point rise to 5% to 5.25%, the level the Fed has signaled is its expected high-water-mark rate. On Thursday, it saw just a 30% chance of a quarter-point rise in May. But markets still look for a cut by year-end.Of course, one month's data do not represent the end of the argument. But unless January's labor-market strength turns out to be a blip, the hawks on the Fed are likely to dig in and keep rates higher for longer, said Yung-Yu Ma, chief investment strategist at BMO Wealth Management, in a phone interview.For markets, the lack of a resolution to the long-simmering disconnect with the Fed could lead to a period of consolidation after an admittedly impressive start to 2023, he said.Indeed, the momentum behind the market's rally could be set to continue. It's been led by tech and other growth stocks that were hammered in last year's market rout. Market watchers detect a sense of \"FOMO,\" or fear of missing out, is driving what some have termed a tech-stock \"meltup.\"\"The impressive equity rally to start the year has caught cautious institutional investors, hedge funds, and strategists off guard. While overbought conditions are obvious, the near-universal level of skepticism among institutions provides a contrarian degree of support for continued strength,\" said Mark Hackett, chief of investment research at Nationwide, in a Friday note.And then there's earnings season, which has so far seen results from around half of the S&P 500.Companies through Friday had reported lower earnings for the fourth quarter relative to the end of the previous week and relative to the end of the quarter.The blended earnings decline (a combination of actual results for companies that have reported and estimated results for companies that have yet to report) for the fourth quarter was 5.3% through Friday, compared with an earnings decline of 5.1% last week and an earnings decline of 3.3% at the end of the fourth quarter, according to FactSet. If earnings come out negative for the quarter, it would be the first year-over-year decline since the third quarter of 2020.When it comes to earnings, \"there's definitely been a mood of forgiveness in the market,\" said BMO's Ma.\"I think the market just didn't want to see a disastrous earnings season,\" he said, noting expectations remain for weak earnings in the current quarter and next, with bulls looking into the second half of this year and even into 2024 to get on a better footing.For the market, the main driver will remain data on inflation and wage growth, Ma said.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":151,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9999520087,"gmtCreate":1660556509251,"gmtModify":1676534479613,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok then?","listText":"Ok then?","text":"Ok then?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9999520087","repostId":"2259015474","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2259015474","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1660555476,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2259015474?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-15 17:24","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Did Warren Buffett Really Lose Almost $44 Billion in 3 Months?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2259015474","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"The Oracle of Omaha's company reported an eye-popping second-quarter loss -- but not all is what it seems.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>It&#39;s been an &#34;interesting&#34; year on Wall Street. I say interesting with quotes because we&#39;ve witnessed some truly unprecedented economic data and headlines. In no particular order, we&#39;ve:</p><ul><li>Watched the U.S. inflation rate soar to levels not seen since the early days of the Reagan administration.</li><li>Seen Russia&#39;s invasion of Ukraine cripple an already fragile energy supply chain.</li><li>Borne witness to back-to-back quarters of U.S. gross domestic product declines that hasn&#39;t officially been labeled as a recession.</li><li>Witnessed the Federal Reserve begin a monetary tightening cycle with the stock market in a notable decline.</li></ul><p>As if this wasn&#39;t enough, Wall Street was graced with an eye-popping headline following the release of <b>Berkshire Hathaway</b>&#39;s (BRK.A 1.66%) (BRK.B 1.71%) earnings report on Aug. 6, 2022. In the three months ended June 30, 2022, Berkshire Hathaway lost -- and I hope you&#39;re sitting down for this -- $43.76 billion dollars.</p><p>How on Earth did Berkshire CEO Warren Buffett, one of the greatest investors of our generation, manage to lose almost $44 billion in three months&#39; time? Let me spoil it for you: All is not what it seems in Berkshire&#39;s quarterly earnings report.</p><p><img src=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F695508%2Fwarren-buffett-motley-fool6-brka-brkb-berkshire.jpg&amp;w=700&amp;op=resize\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"467\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett. Image source: The Motley Fool.</p><h2>Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s historic quarterly loss isn&#39;t what it seems</h2><p>Back in 2016, the Financial Accounting Standards Board passed new measures aimed at making corporate income statements, and generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) reporting, more transparent for investors. One of these measures, ASU 2016-01 (&#34;Recognition and Measurement of Financial Assets and Financial Liabilities&#34;), eliminated the need to classify various categories of equity investments and, instead, required that equity investments be measured at fair value. This meant that changes in equity investments from one quarter to the next would be recognized as net income, or a net loss. Berkshire Hathaway officially adopted this accounting change in its reporting beginning in 2018.</p><p>In simpler terms, the closing price of Warren Buffett&#39;s investments on March 31, 2022 represented their fair value at the end of the first quarter. Comparably, the closing price of securities on June 30, 2022 represented their fair value at the end of the second quarter. In addition to counting the realized gains and losses recognized by selling stocks, ASU 2016-01 requires Buffett&#39;s company to recognize the unrealized gains and losses as a result of share price movements in its investment portfolio from one quarter to the next.</p><p>During the second quarter, the three major U.S. stock indexes were pummeled. The timeless <b>Dow Jones Industrial Average</b>, broad-based <b>S&amp;P 500</b>, and tech-centric <b>Nasdaq Composite</b> respectively plunged by 11.3%, 16.5%, and 22.4% in a three-month stretch. Not surprisingly, Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s investment portfolio took it on the chin as well. This resulted in a staggering &#34;loss&#34; of $66.9 billion from investments and derivative contracts in just three months, and the aforementioned net loss of almost $44 billion for the second quarter.</p><p><img src=\"https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F695508%2Finvestor-looking-at-financials-magnifying-glass-getty.jpg&amp;w=700&amp;op=resize\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"467\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Image source: Getty Images.</p><h2>Warren Buffett&#39;s company is as strong as ever</h2><p>Did Warren Buffett lose close to $44 billion in three months? On paper, and based on financial requirements, yes. But when looking at what counts, this was another successful quarter for the Oracle of Omaha and his company.</p><p>To begin with, Warren Buffett and his investing lieutenants, Todd Combs and Ted Weschler, aren&#39;t traders. While they might chase the rare arbitrage play or high-yielding stock in an inflationary environment, most of Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s more than four dozen holdings are longer-term investments. In fact, the Oracle of Omaha has continuously held 15 stocks for at least a decade. Stocks are always going to ebb and flow, which makes unrealized gains and losses something of a moot point in Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s quarterly operating results.</p><p>A far better measure of Warren Buffett&#39;s success as an investor can be found in his annual letter to shareholders. In that letter, investors can see that Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s Class A shares (BRK.A) have averaged a 20.1% annual return since the Oracle of Omaha became CEO in 1965. Imagine averaging a 20.1% annual return for 57 years!</p><p>To add, &#34;unrealized losses&#34; is simply another phrase that means opportunity for Warren Buffett. A declining stock market provides the Oracle of Omaha and his investing team with the opportunity to deploy their mammoth cash pile into stocks, acquisitions, or even share buybacks. The plunging stock market during the second quarter allowed Buffett to buy $57.3 billion worth of equity securities, as well as $1 billion worth of the company&#39;s Class A and B common stock. Buffett and his right-hand man Charlie Munger have overseen $62.1 billion in aggregate stock buybacks since July 2018.</p><p>Another thing for investors to note is that Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s over five dozen owned entities performed extremely well during the challenging second quarter (Q2). Total insurance earnings hit $3 billion, which was up from $1.9 billion in Q2 2021, while railroad BNSF saw its quarterly profit rise to $2.15 billion from $1.98 billion in the prior-year quarter. All told, Berkshire Hathaway&#39;s operating businesses increased their net income to $10 billion in Q2 2022 from $8.6 billion in the prior-year period.</p><p>Sure, Warren Buffett oversaw a nearly $44 billion &#34;loss&#34; in the second quarter. However, his company is as strong as it&#39;s ever been.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Did Warren Buffett Really Lose Almost $44 Billion in 3 Months?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nDid Warren Buffett Really Lose Almost $44 Billion in 3 Months?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-15 17:24 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/08/15/did-warren-buffett-really-lose-44-billion-3-months/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>It's been an \"interesting\" year on Wall Street. I say interesting with quotes because we've witnessed some truly unprecedented economic data and headlines. In no particular order, we've:Watched the U....</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/08/15/did-warren-buffett-really-lose-44-billion-3-months/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4176":"多领域控股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4528":"SaaS概念","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4581":"高盛持仓","BK4516":"特朗普概念","BK4097":"系统软件","BRK.A":"伯克希尔","BK4538":"云计算","ORCL":"甲骨文","BRK.B":"伯克希尔B","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/08/15/did-warren-buffett-really-lose-44-billion-3-months/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2259015474","content_text":"It's been an \"interesting\" year on Wall Street. I say interesting with quotes because we've witnessed some truly unprecedented economic data and headlines. In no particular order, we've:Watched the U.S. inflation rate soar to levels not seen since the early days of the Reagan administration.Seen Russia's invasion of Ukraine cripple an already fragile energy supply chain.Borne witness to back-to-back quarters of U.S. gross domestic product declines that hasn't officially been labeled as a recession.Witnessed the Federal Reserve begin a monetary tightening cycle with the stock market in a notable decline.As if this wasn't enough, Wall Street was graced with an eye-popping headline following the release of Berkshire Hathaway's (BRK.A 1.66%) (BRK.B 1.71%) earnings report on Aug. 6, 2022. In the three months ended June 30, 2022, Berkshire Hathaway lost -- and I hope you're sitting down for this -- $43.76 billion dollars.How on Earth did Berkshire CEO Warren Buffett, one of the greatest investors of our generation, manage to lose almost $44 billion in three months' time? Let me spoil it for you: All is not what it seems in Berkshire's quarterly earnings report.Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett. Image source: The Motley Fool.Berkshire Hathaway's historic quarterly loss isn't what it seemsBack in 2016, the Financial Accounting Standards Board passed new measures aimed at making corporate income statements, and generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) reporting, more transparent for investors. One of these measures, ASU 2016-01 (\"Recognition and Measurement of Financial Assets and Financial Liabilities\"), eliminated the need to classify various categories of equity investments and, instead, required that equity investments be measured at fair value. This meant that changes in equity investments from one quarter to the next would be recognized as net income, or a net loss. Berkshire Hathaway officially adopted this accounting change in its reporting beginning in 2018.In simpler terms, the closing price of Warren Buffett's investments on March 31, 2022 represented their fair value at the end of the first quarter. Comparably, the closing price of securities on June 30, 2022 represented their fair value at the end of the second quarter. In addition to counting the realized gains and losses recognized by selling stocks, ASU 2016-01 requires Buffett's company to recognize the unrealized gains and losses as a result of share price movements in its investment portfolio from one quarter to the next.During the second quarter, the three major U.S. stock indexes were pummeled. The timeless Dow Jones Industrial Average, broad-based S&P 500, and tech-centric Nasdaq Composite respectively plunged by 11.3%, 16.5%, and 22.4% in a three-month stretch. Not surprisingly, Berkshire Hathaway's investment portfolio took it on the chin as well. This resulted in a staggering \"loss\" of $66.9 billion from investments and derivative contracts in just three months, and the aforementioned net loss of almost $44 billion for the second quarter.Image source: Getty Images.Warren Buffett's company is as strong as everDid Warren Buffett lose close to $44 billion in three months? On paper, and based on financial requirements, yes. But when looking at what counts, this was another successful quarter for the Oracle of Omaha and his company.To begin with, Warren Buffett and his investing lieutenants, Todd Combs and Ted Weschler, aren't traders. While they might chase the rare arbitrage play or high-yielding stock in an inflationary environment, most of Berkshire Hathaway's more than four dozen holdings are longer-term investments. In fact, the Oracle of Omaha has continuously held 15 stocks for at least a decade. Stocks are always going to ebb and flow, which makes unrealized gains and losses something of a moot point in Berkshire Hathaway's quarterly operating results.A far better measure of Warren Buffett's success as an investor can be found in his annual letter to shareholders. In that letter, investors can see that Berkshire Hathaway's Class A shares (BRK.A) have averaged a 20.1% annual return since the Oracle of Omaha became CEO in 1965. Imagine averaging a 20.1% annual return for 57 years!To add, \"unrealized losses\" is simply another phrase that means opportunity for Warren Buffett. A declining stock market provides the Oracle of Omaha and his investing team with the opportunity to deploy their mammoth cash pile into stocks, acquisitions, or even share buybacks. The plunging stock market during the second quarter allowed Buffett to buy $57.3 billion worth of equity securities, as well as $1 billion worth of the company's Class A and B common stock. Buffett and his right-hand man Charlie Munger have overseen $62.1 billion in aggregate stock buybacks since July 2018.Another thing for investors to note is that Berkshire Hathaway's over five dozen owned entities performed extremely well during the challenging second quarter (Q2). Total insurance earnings hit $3 billion, which was up from $1.9 billion in Q2 2021, while railroad BNSF saw its quarterly profit rise to $2.15 billion from $1.98 billion in the prior-year quarter. All told, Berkshire Hathaway's operating businesses increased their net income to $10 billion in Q2 2022 from $8.6 billion in the prior-year period.Sure, Warren Buffett oversaw a nearly $44 billion \"loss\" in the second quarter. However, his company is as strong as it's ever been.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":227,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9940355711,"gmtCreate":1677718504533,"gmtModify":1677718509331,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.&nbsp;","listText":"Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.&nbsp;","text":"Don't Understand the reason behind this inventory day bs. Nothing new is made know till the giga factory at the last part. The rest all boring. Tesla is worth $200 at max now.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9940355711","repostId":"2316678154","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":563,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9016538781,"gmtCreate":1649205838260,"gmtModify":1676534469820,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Huat ah","listText":"Huat ah","text":"Huat ah","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9016538781","repostId":"1100616009","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1100616009","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1649205134,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1100616009?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-04-06 08:32","market":"us","language":"en","title":"3 Things TSLA Stock Fans Should Watch at April 7’s Tesla Cyber Rodeo","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1100616009","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"April 7 is going to be a big day forTesla(NASDAQ:TSLA). Investors andelectric vehicle(EV) enthusiasts were already excited forGigaFest, but now Austin, Texas will also play host to the company’s Cyber","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>April 7 is going to be a big day for <b>Tesla</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>TSLA</u></b>). Investors and electric vehicle(EV) enthusiasts were already excited forGigaFest, but now Austin, Texas will also play host to the company’s Cyber Rodeo. This event will celebrate the grand opening of Tesla’s new factory. The company has been riding high since the successful opening of its Berlin Gigafactory. Now, this recent news promises to boost TSLA stock even further. Shares are down about 4% today, but they will likely rise again as the catalyst drives positive momentum.</p><p>As the Cyber Rodeo draws closer, speculation is intensifying on what Tesla actually has planned for the event. Elon Musk has reportedly invited 15,000 people. Further, the name Cyber Rodeo calls to mind the upcoming Cybertruck, although Tesla may in fact debut other new vehicles on the day.</p><p>Tesla hasn’t made any direct statements as to what will be on display. What we do know, however, is that guests will be able to take interactive tours of the new Texas factory. The event will feature food and live entertainment as well.</p><p>So, let’s take a closer look at what fans and TSLA stock investors alike can expect from the Cyber Rodeo.</p><p>1. The Tesla Semi Is Coming</p><p>Recently, a dronepicked up imagesof Tesla’s long-awaited semi truck at the new Austin, Texas factory. Now, the internet is buzzing with anticipation. Up until now, Tesla hadbuilt the model in small scaleat its Nevada facility. However, production is expected to increase after the opening of Gigafactory Texas. If Tesla is able to scale production of the long-haul truck — and there’s nothing to indicate that it can’t — it will be a significant boost for TSLA stock.</p><p>2.  Model Ys Are on Their Way</p><p>The semi isn’t the only thing drone photos picked up, however. Images also included several new Tesla Model Ys. Production for the Tesla SUVbegan in Austin in late 2021 and fans have eagerly awaited updates. Now, they will likely receive them soon.</p><p>The Model Ys seen in Austin appear to be painted in several colors, including a matte black and a darker red. Many have speculated about new Tesla paint colors, but little evidence has been revealed until now. <i>Electrek</i> reports that Tesla may provide new information on a mid-range edition of the Model Y as well.</p><p>3. Expect a Battery Update</p><p>Finally, the Cyber Rodeo should bring an important update on batteries. Battery cell production is a fundamental component of Gigafactory Texas’ operations. So, investors can probably expect to hear about efforts to scale battery production and keep pace with demand. <i>Not a Tesla App</i> reports there has been speculation that “the first Tesla from the new factory will use the new 4680 cells with a structural battery pack,” although the “efficiency reported doesn’t seem large enough to be the new battery cells.”</p><p>This is exactly the type of news investors should be watching for an update on. TSLA stock will rise if the company provides positive updates on either new EVs or batteries.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>3 Things TSLA Stock Fans Should Watch at April 7’s Tesla Cyber Rodeo</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n3 Things TSLA Stock Fans Should Watch at April 7’s Tesla Cyber Rodeo\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-04-06 08:32 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/04/3-things-tsla-stock-fans-should-watch-at-april-7s-tesla-cyber-rodeo/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>April 7 is going to be a big day for Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA). Investors and electric vehicle(EV) enthusiasts were already excited forGigaFest, but now Austin, Texas will also play host to the company’s ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/04/3-things-tsla-stock-fans-should-watch-at-april-7s-tesla-cyber-rodeo/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/04/3-things-tsla-stock-fans-should-watch-at-april-7s-tesla-cyber-rodeo/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1100616009","content_text":"April 7 is going to be a big day for Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA). Investors and electric vehicle(EV) enthusiasts were already excited forGigaFest, but now Austin, Texas will also play host to the company’s Cyber Rodeo. This event will celebrate the grand opening of Tesla’s new factory. The company has been riding high since the successful opening of its Berlin Gigafactory. Now, this recent news promises to boost TSLA stock even further. Shares are down about 4% today, but they will likely rise again as the catalyst drives positive momentum.As the Cyber Rodeo draws closer, speculation is intensifying on what Tesla actually has planned for the event. Elon Musk has reportedly invited 15,000 people. Further, the name Cyber Rodeo calls to mind the upcoming Cybertruck, although Tesla may in fact debut other new vehicles on the day.Tesla hasn’t made any direct statements as to what will be on display. What we do know, however, is that guests will be able to take interactive tours of the new Texas factory. The event will feature food and live entertainment as well.So, let’s take a closer look at what fans and TSLA stock investors alike can expect from the Cyber Rodeo.1. The Tesla Semi Is ComingRecently, a dronepicked up imagesof Tesla’s long-awaited semi truck at the new Austin, Texas factory. Now, the internet is buzzing with anticipation. Up until now, Tesla hadbuilt the model in small scaleat its Nevada facility. However, production is expected to increase after the opening of Gigafactory Texas. If Tesla is able to scale production of the long-haul truck — and there’s nothing to indicate that it can’t — it will be a significant boost for TSLA stock.2.  Model Ys Are on Their WayThe semi isn’t the only thing drone photos picked up, however. Images also included several new Tesla Model Ys. Production for the Tesla SUVbegan in Austin in late 2021 and fans have eagerly awaited updates. Now, they will likely receive them soon.The Model Ys seen in Austin appear to be painted in several colors, including a matte black and a darker red. Many have speculated about new Tesla paint colors, but little evidence has been revealed until now. Electrek reports that Tesla may provide new information on a mid-range edition of the Model Y as well.3. Expect a Battery UpdateFinally, the Cyber Rodeo should bring an important update on batteries. Battery cell production is a fundamental component of Gigafactory Texas’ operations. So, investors can probably expect to hear about efforts to scale battery production and keep pace with demand. Not a Tesla App reports there has been speculation that “the first Tesla from the new factory will use the new 4680 cells with a structural battery pack,” although the “efficiency reported doesn’t seem large enough to be the new battery cells.”This is exactly the type of news investors should be watching for an update on. TSLA stock will rise if the company provides positive updates on either new EVs or batteries.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":200,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9956258836,"gmtCreate":1674027077026,"gmtModify":1676538917643,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"There are so many YouTube videos out there. What's this article trying to do?","listText":"There are so many YouTube videos out there. What's this article trying to do?","text":"There are so many YouTube videos out there. What's this article trying to do?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9956258836","repostId":"2304528110","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2304528110","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1674022353,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2304528110?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-01-18 14:12","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Engineer Testifies That 2016 Self-Driving Footage Was Faked","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2304528110","media":"Seekingalpha","summary":"A senior Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) engineer admitted that a 2016 video promoting the automaker’s autonomo","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>A senior Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) engineer admitted that a 2016 video promoting the automaker’s autonomous driving technology was staged, according to a deposition transcript seen by Reuters.</p><p>Ashok Elluswamy, director of Autopilot software at Tesla, acknowledged that the video showcased capabilities like obeying traffic signals that the technology did not possess at the time in sworn testimony. The route was also pre-planned and even still required driver intervention after crashing into a parking lot fence, per the testimony.</p><p>The staging of the video was previously reported by The New York Times in 2021, though details as to its staging were previously unreported. The video remains active on the EV manufacturer’s website.</p><p>Tesla CEO Elon Musk will head to court on Tuesday over his “funding secured” tweets in late 2019. Shareholders claim they were defrauded by the social media statements and are seeking damages.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha_fund","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Engineer Testifies That 2016 Self-Driving Footage Was Faked</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Engineer Testifies That 2016 Self-Driving Footage Was Faked\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-01-18 14:12 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/news/3925123-tesla-engineer-testifies-that-2016-self-driving-footage-was-faked><strong>Seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>A senior Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) engineer admitted that a 2016 video promoting the automaker’s autonomous driving technology was staged, according to a deposition transcript seen by Reuters.Ashok ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/news/3925123-tesla-engineer-testifies-that-2016-self-driving-footage-was-faked\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/news/3925123-tesla-engineer-testifies-that-2016-self-driving-footage-was-faked","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2304528110","content_text":"A senior Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) engineer admitted that a 2016 video promoting the automaker’s autonomous driving technology was staged, according to a deposition transcript seen by Reuters.Ashok Elluswamy, director of Autopilot software at Tesla, acknowledged that the video showcased capabilities like obeying traffic signals that the technology did not possess at the time in sworn testimony. The route was also pre-planned and even still required driver intervention after crashing into a parking lot fence, per the testimony.The staging of the video was previously reported by The New York Times in 2021, though details as to its staging were previously unreported. The video remains active on the EV manufacturer’s website.Tesla CEO Elon Musk will head to court on Tuesday over his “funding secured” tweets in late 2019. Shareholders claim they were defrauded by the social media statements and are seeking damages.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":125,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9921804679,"gmtCreate":1671019239392,"gmtModify":1676538476316,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So lost! No longer seeing the light these days. Dailyis just red and red. With a day of green but the next triple red to kill the single Green Day&nbsp;","listText":"So lost! No longer seeing the light these days. Dailyis just red and red. With a day of green but the next triple red to kill the single Green Day&nbsp;","text":"So lost! No longer seeing the light these days. Dailyis just red and red. With a day of green but the next triple red to kill the single Green Day","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9921804679","repostId":"1149613926","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1149613926","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1671018808,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1149613926?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-12-14 19:53","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Investors Voice Concern Over Elon Musk’s Focus on Twitter","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1149613926","media":"The Wall Street Journal","summary":"The chorus of Tesla Inc. individual investors expressing misgivings that Chief ExecutiveElon Musk‘s ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/13c92c6da6a42715447c56785ae3e32d\" tg-width=\"860\" tg-height=\"573\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>The chorus of Tesla Inc. individual investors expressing misgivings that Chief ExecutiveElon Musk‘s involvement with Twitter Inc. may be to the detriment of the electric-vehicle maker is getting louder, with the car company’s stock on track for its worst full-year performance.</p><p>“There is no TSLA CEO today,”Gary Black, managing partner of the Future Fund LLC, which owns roughly $50 million worth of Tesla, tweeted Monday.</p><p>Mr. Black voiced frustration after another sharp selloff in Tesla’s stock Monday. Shares in the world’s largest car company by market value fell more than 6% in Monday trading after atumultuous weekend for Mr. Musk on Twitter, including the billionaire taking aim at the company’s former head of trust and safety; calling for the prosecution of top U.S. government medical adviser Anthony Fauci; and criticizing people who offer their pronouns without being asked.</p><p>Mr. Black said, “The market voted today that the $TSLA brand has been negatively impacted by the Twitter drama. Where before EV buyers were proud to drive their Teslas to their friends or show off Teslas in their driveways, now the Twitter controversy is hurting Tesla’s brand equity.”</p><p>Ross Gerber, a longtime backer of Tesla, on Monday tweeted a question directed at Tesla’s board of directors. “Who is running tesla day to day during this critical time for the company,” Mr. Gerber said.</p><p>He separately tweeted, “There is nothing wrong at tesla at all. Other than the CEO working at another company, certainly tesla deserves a focused ceo. It would be helpful to know what Elon’s plans are.”</p><p>Mr. Musk, at a trial about his Tesla compensation package last month, said he had beenspending most of his time of late focusing on Twitter, which he acquired for $44 billion. “I expect to reduce my time at Twitter and find somebody else to run Twitter over time,” he testified.</p><p>Tesla shares are down 54.31% this year through Tuesday’s close, putting it on pace for their worst year on record. The only other year where the shares fell was in 2016, when Tesla’s stock ended down 10.97%. The Nasdaq, which advanced Tuesday, has fallen around 28% this year.</p><p>Tesla shares closed down 4.09% Tuesday, the day Mr. Musk ceded the unofficial title to European mogulBernard Arnaultfor theworld’s wealthiest individual, according to Bloomberg, which publishes a ranking of the richest people.</p><p>Mr. Musk’s takeover of Twitter has raised anxiety among Tesla backers for months. Severalurged the Tesla CEO to abandon the dealand focus on the car maker, when shares were already down around 30%. The stock has declined further in ensuing months amid growing recession concerns and cost pressure from high inflation. Tesla also has scaled back vehicle delivery plans. Tesla’s stock has fallen about 28% since the Twitter deal closed in late October through Tuesday, when it ended trading at its lowest level in more than two years.</p><p>The Tesla boss on Tuesday tweeted: “Tesla will be great long-term, but doesn’t control macroeconomic tides.” He later added “I will make sure Tesla shareholders benefit from Twitter long-term,” but didn’t offer details.</p><p>Tesla didn’t respond to a request for comment. Mr. Musk last week said he continues to work on Tesla as well as SpaceX, formally known as Space Exploration Technologies Corp. “I continue to oversee both Tesla &amp; SpaceX, but the teams there are so good that often little is needed from me,” he tweeted Saturday.</p><p>Bill Nelson, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s administrator, said Sunday that he had asked SpaceX PresidentGwynne Shotwellif Mr. Musk’s purchase of the social-media platformwould divert from the rocket company’s mission. Mr. Nelson said he was given assurance that wouldn’t be the case.</p><p>Leo KoGuan, a self-proclaimed Tesla investor, last week tweeted: “Tesla board is missing in action” and called on the company to initiate a share buyback. Mr. Black also has been urging the company to pursue a $10 billion share repurchase.</p><p>Mr. Musk in October said Teslacould pursue a $5 billion to $10 billion share buybackand said some meaningful buyback was likely. The company had discussed such a share repurchase at the board level, but at the time hadn’t signed off on it. Mr. Musk hassold more than $19 billion in Tesla stock this year, including almost $4 billion in November to help finance Twitter.</p><p>Tesla’sbrand image has taken a hitin recent months, according to market surveys. Self-identifying Democrats in particular have soured on the car maker since Mr. Musk bought Twitter, according to data from research firm Morning Consult.</p></body></html>","source":"wsj_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Investors Voice Concern Over Elon Musk’s Focus on Twitter</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Investors Voice Concern Over Elon Musk’s Focus on Twitter\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-12-14 19:53 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-investors-voice-concern-over-elon-musks-focus-on-twitter-11670948786?mod=hp_lista_pos1><strong>The Wall Street Journal</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The chorus of Tesla Inc. individual investors expressing misgivings that Chief ExecutiveElon Musk‘s involvement with Twitter Inc. may be to the detriment of the electric-vehicle maker is getting ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-investors-voice-concern-over-elon-musks-focus-on-twitter-11670948786?mod=hp_lista_pos1\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-investors-voice-concern-over-elon-musks-focus-on-twitter-11670948786?mod=hp_lista_pos1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1149613926","content_text":"The chorus of Tesla Inc. individual investors expressing misgivings that Chief ExecutiveElon Musk‘s involvement with Twitter Inc. may be to the detriment of the electric-vehicle maker is getting louder, with the car company’s stock on track for its worst full-year performance.“There is no TSLA CEO today,”Gary Black, managing partner of the Future Fund LLC, which owns roughly $50 million worth of Tesla, tweeted Monday.Mr. Black voiced frustration after another sharp selloff in Tesla’s stock Monday. Shares in the world’s largest car company by market value fell more than 6% in Monday trading after atumultuous weekend for Mr. Musk on Twitter, including the billionaire taking aim at the company’s former head of trust and safety; calling for the prosecution of top U.S. government medical adviser Anthony Fauci; and criticizing people who offer their pronouns without being asked.Mr. Black said, “The market voted today that the $TSLA brand has been negatively impacted by the Twitter drama. Where before EV buyers were proud to drive their Teslas to their friends or show off Teslas in their driveways, now the Twitter controversy is hurting Tesla’s brand equity.”Ross Gerber, a longtime backer of Tesla, on Monday tweeted a question directed at Tesla’s board of directors. “Who is running tesla day to day during this critical time for the company,” Mr. Gerber said.He separately tweeted, “There is nothing wrong at tesla at all. Other than the CEO working at another company, certainly tesla deserves a focused ceo. It would be helpful to know what Elon’s plans are.”Mr. Musk, at a trial about his Tesla compensation package last month, said he had beenspending most of his time of late focusing on Twitter, which he acquired for $44 billion. “I expect to reduce my time at Twitter and find somebody else to run Twitter over time,” he testified.Tesla shares are down 54.31% this year through Tuesday’s close, putting it on pace for their worst year on record. The only other year where the shares fell was in 2016, when Tesla’s stock ended down 10.97%. The Nasdaq, which advanced Tuesday, has fallen around 28% this year.Tesla shares closed down 4.09% Tuesday, the day Mr. Musk ceded the unofficial title to European mogulBernard Arnaultfor theworld’s wealthiest individual, according to Bloomberg, which publishes a ranking of the richest people.Mr. Musk’s takeover of Twitter has raised anxiety among Tesla backers for months. Severalurged the Tesla CEO to abandon the dealand focus on the car maker, when shares were already down around 30%. The stock has declined further in ensuing months amid growing recession concerns and cost pressure from high inflation. Tesla also has scaled back vehicle delivery plans. Tesla’s stock has fallen about 28% since the Twitter deal closed in late October through Tuesday, when it ended trading at its lowest level in more than two years.The Tesla boss on Tuesday tweeted: “Tesla will be great long-term, but doesn’t control macroeconomic tides.” He later added “I will make sure Tesla shareholders benefit from Twitter long-term,” but didn’t offer details.Tesla didn’t respond to a request for comment. Mr. Musk last week said he continues to work on Tesla as well as SpaceX, formally known as Space Exploration Technologies Corp. “I continue to oversee both Tesla & SpaceX, but the teams there are so good that often little is needed from me,” he tweeted Saturday.Bill Nelson, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s administrator, said Sunday that he had asked SpaceX PresidentGwynne Shotwellif Mr. Musk’s purchase of the social-media platformwould divert from the rocket company’s mission. Mr. Nelson said he was given assurance that wouldn’t be the case.Leo KoGuan, a self-proclaimed Tesla investor, last week tweeted: “Tesla board is missing in action” and called on the company to initiate a share buyback. Mr. Black also has been urging the company to pursue a $10 billion share repurchase.Mr. Musk in October said Teslacould pursue a $5 billion to $10 billion share buybackand said some meaningful buyback was likely. The company had discussed such a share repurchase at the board level, but at the time hadn’t signed off on it. Mr. Musk hassold more than $19 billion in Tesla stock this year, including almost $4 billion in November to help finance Twitter.Tesla’sbrand image has taken a hitin recent months, according to market surveys. Self-identifying Democrats in particular have soured on the car maker since Mr. Musk bought Twitter, according to data from research firm Morning Consult.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":133,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":295949868277800,"gmtCreate":1713283447971,"gmtModify":1713283451950,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"0\"></v-v> I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful.&nbsp; Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks.&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a>&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"0\"></v-v> I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful.&nbsp; Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks.&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$&nbsp;</a>&nbsp;","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ I have quite a large holding but I am not hopeful. Tesla will crash and burn due to Elon Musks. $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/295949868277800","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":343,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9053191698,"gmtCreate":1654492171814,"gmtModify":1676535457074,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$1004 at year 2032? What drugs is this writer taking?","listText":"$1004 at year 2032? What drugs is this writer taking?","text":"$1004 at year 2032? What drugs is this writer taking?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9053191698","repostId":"1142862393","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1142862393","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1654485739,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1142862393?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-06-06 11:22","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: What The Future Holds","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1142862393","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryWe present a detailed analysis of Tesla's growth prospects, revenue streams, and market share","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>We present a detailed analysis of Tesla&#39;s growth prospects, revenue streams, and market share.</li><li>TSLA has grown substantially over the past few years, but so has the entire auto industry. The automotive business may be at a cyclical peak.</li><li>From these price levels, we believe TSLA will return just 3% per annum to long-term shareholders.</li></ul><p><b>Investment Thesis</b></p><p>Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) has perhaps been the most popular investment globally over the past five years. During that time, the stock has gained nearly 1000% in value and now trades at a PE of 100.</p><p>Tesla needs to deliver substantial growth in a competitive and cyclical industry to justify its current valuation. We take the view of the long-term shareholder and argue the risk still outweighs the reward.</p><p><b>A Cyclical Peak</b></p><p>The COVID-19 recession was not a typical recession. Interest rates hit rock bottom, making a new vehicle purchase very affordable. Banks were willing to lend, and consumers had more cash around than ever before.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/62364c64bae418754f1869273011cada\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"460\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Cash Balances of U.S. Consumers (RSM)</p><p>Tesla&#39;s margins have increased, but that is an industry-wide phenomena. Toyota Motor Corp. (TM) is the largest auto manufacturer in the world by revenue. The company has never seen profit margins as high as 2021.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2c9b5a6023a3041674bff0bea53d68bd\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data by YCharts</p><p>While this is all great news, the auto industry is notoriously capital intensive and cyclical. Inflation increases the cost of manufacturing vehicles. As interest rates rise, Tesla may not be able to pass those costs on to consumers. Nearly every auto manufacturer experienced loses in the global financial crisis of 2009, and some even went bankrupt. Tesla is not immune to seeing its net income and margins decline if we see another substantial recession.</p><p><b>Tesla&#39;s Future Growth</b></p><p>First, let&#39;s take a look at earnings estimates for TSLA:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/664673a729511f5cd05084167720cedb\" tg-width=\"283\" tg-height=\"388\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Tesla EPS Forecast (NASDAQ)</p><p>From 2022 to 2025, TSLA&#39;s earnings per share are projected to grow at 30% per annum. Yes, the days of 50% per annum growth are in the rearview mirror for TSLA. But, 30% is nothing to complain about. The problem is, growth often continues to slow as a company matures.</p><p><b>Competition &amp; Market Share</b></p><p>Tesla is going global and getting closer to its customer base, with new factories in Shanghai, China, as well as Berlin, Germany. You would think that this move should expand Tesla&#39;s share of global EV sales. But from 2020 to 2021, Tesla&#39;s global market share actually shrank from 17% to just under14%.</p><p>Despite this recent performance, we are estimating that Tesla maintains its current market share. TSLA&#39;s global expansion should eventually help in this regard. The company can also sell more entry-level EV&#39;s to maintain its share.</p><p>Competition is stronger for EV manufacturers now than it was three years ago. Every automaker globally knows the world is transitioning to electric vehicles. In China, BYD Co Ltd (OTCPK:BYDDF) presents a challenge for TSLA. Globally, Tesla is also up against many strong and entrenched brands such as Mercedes-Benz (OTCPK:DDAIF), Ford (F), and Toyota. Yes, they may not have the technology to match Tesla yet, but we cannot know for sure what the future holds.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/71bf486972329076b30bf40fb816b6b0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"676\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Global EV Market Share (Statista)</p><p><b>Follow The Money</b></p><p>Tesla is still a car company first. To simplify, Tesla&#39;s revenue comes from two sources, automotive (EVs) and energy generation and storage (Energy). The energy part of the business represents only 5% of the revenue. Despite what people say, 95% of the TSLA&#39;s revenue still comes from automotive sales and related products.</p><p>Below is a breakdown of Tesla&#39;s Revenue for 2021:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/55e39ba5715ec47f817af5904304014e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"174\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Tesla Revenue Breakdown (2021 TSLA Annual Report)</p><p>From 2018 to 2021, Tesla&#39;s sales and leasing revenue from the energy business grew 21% per year from$1.56 billion to $2.79 billion. The remaining revenue from automotive and related products grew 37% per year. The energy business is near profitability, but still making losses. The cost of its revenue sits at$2.92 billion.</p><p><b>The Future Of EV</b></p><p>EV sales globally should grow around 20% per annum over the next decade.</p><ul><li>The number of electric vehicles sold globally is projected to grow at 17.5% per annum. We are projecting the <i>per unit price</i> of an EV to grow at just 2% per annum as competition improves, interest rates normalize, and used EV&#39;s come online.</li></ul><p><b>The Tesla Story</b></p><p>The future of Tesla is very up in the air. Elon Musk has all sorts of stories for investors revolving around autonomous drive, robotics, ride sharing, and artificial intelligence. However, we do not yet have substantial revenues from Musk&#39;s many grand ideas. When those revenues do materialize, the businesses are likely to be loss making, much like TSLA&#39;s energy business has been thus far. Competition will be strong in these fields. There are many innovative entrepreneurs, especially in China and the U.S.</p><p><b>Margins</b></p><p>When it comes to Tesla&#39;s margins, there is just as much uncertainty. Margins for the auto business may have peaked as the industry seems to be at a cyclical high. Competition will only get stronger. Keep in mind that the auto industry is capital intensive and cyclical, with many producers reporting negative net margins in times of recession. On the other hand, the energy business should be profitable in the future. And, it is likely that Tesla develops another prominent business that is also profitable in 10 years&#39; time.</p><ul><li>We are assuming these factors cancel each other out, resulting in a continuation of TSLA&#39;scurrent net margin of 13.5%.</li></ul><p><b>Our Estimate</b></p><p>Combining our projections for Tesla&#39;s market share, margins, EV sales, and energy business, we estimate Tesla will grow net income at 20% per year. The probability of underperformance in automotive and the probability of profitable developments in a new business appear equally weighted.</p><p><b>The Valuation</b></p><p>We are projecting TSLA to make $52 billion in 2032. This is a result of growing the company&#39;s net income($8.4 billion) at 20% per annum. We are also projecting shares outstanding to remain unchanged at 1.036 billion. This results in 2032<i>earnings per share of $50.20</i>.</p><p>Our base case scenario is a <i>multiple of 20</i>on TSLA&#39;s 2032 earnings. This gives us a 2032 price target of $1004 per share, implying a return of just 3<i>% per</i> annum.</p><p><b>Risks To The Thesis</b></p><p>There is risk on the upside and downside of this estimation. Tesla is a constantly evolving business, operating in a difficult industry. The company can change materially in 10 years&#39; time. On the upside, a 2032 price of $1500/share is reasonable if there are positive developments in A.I. and renewables. On the downside, a 2032 price of $500/share is possible if Tesla fails to innovate or loses market share. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4516271-tesla-what-future-holds\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4516271-tesla-what-future-holds","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1142862393","content_text":"SummaryWe present a detailed analysis of Tesla's growth prospects, revenue streams, and market share.TSLA has grown substantially over the past few years, but so has the entire auto industry. The automotive business may be at a cyclical peak.From these price levels, we believe TSLA will return just 3% per annum to long-term shareholders.Investment ThesisTesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) has perhaps been the most popular investment globally over the past five years. During that time, the stock has gained nearly 1000% in value and now trades at a PE of 100.Tesla needs to deliver substantial growth in a competitive and cyclical industry to justify its current valuation. We take the view of the long-term shareholder and argue the risk still outweighs the reward.A Cyclical PeakThe COVID-19 recession was not a typical recession. Interest rates hit rock bottom, making a new vehicle purchase very affordable. Banks were willing to lend, and consumers had more cash around than ever before.Cash Balances of U.S. Consumers (RSM)Tesla's margins have increased, but that is an industry-wide phenomena. Toyota Motor Corp. (TM) is the largest auto manufacturer in the world by revenue. The company has never seen profit margins as high as 2021.Data by YChartsWhile this is all great news, the auto industry is notoriously capital intensive and cyclical. Inflation increases the cost of manufacturing vehicles. As interest rates rise, Tesla may not be able to pass those costs on to consumers. Nearly every auto manufacturer experienced loses in the global financial crisis of 2009, and some even went bankrupt. Tesla is not immune to seeing its net income and margins decline if we see another substantial recession.Tesla's Future GrowthFirst, let's take a look at earnings estimates for TSLA:Tesla EPS Forecast (NASDAQ)From 2022 to 2025, TSLA's earnings per share are projected to grow at 30% per annum. Yes, the days of 50% per annum growth are in the rearview mirror for TSLA. But, 30% is nothing to complain about. The problem is, growth often continues to slow as a company matures.Competition & Market ShareTesla is going global and getting closer to its customer base, with new factories in Shanghai, China, as well as Berlin, Germany. You would think that this move should expand Tesla's share of global EV sales. But from 2020 to 2021, Tesla's global market share actually shrank from 17% to just under14%.Despite this recent performance, we are estimating that Tesla maintains its current market share. TSLA's global expansion should eventually help in this regard. The company can also sell more entry-level EV's to maintain its share.Competition is stronger for EV manufacturers now than it was three years ago. Every automaker globally knows the world is transitioning to electric vehicles. In China, BYD Co Ltd (OTCPK:BYDDF) presents a challenge for TSLA. Globally, Tesla is also up against many strong and entrenched brands such as Mercedes-Benz (OTCPK:DDAIF), Ford (F), and Toyota. Yes, they may not have the technology to match Tesla yet, but we cannot know for sure what the future holds.Global EV Market Share (Statista)Follow The MoneyTesla is still a car company first. To simplify, Tesla's revenue comes from two sources, automotive (EVs) and energy generation and storage (Energy). The energy part of the business represents only 5% of the revenue. Despite what people say, 95% of the TSLA's revenue still comes from automotive sales and related products.Below is a breakdown of Tesla's Revenue for 2021:Tesla Revenue Breakdown (2021 TSLA Annual Report)From 2018 to 2021, Tesla's sales and leasing revenue from the energy business grew 21% per year from$1.56 billion to $2.79 billion. The remaining revenue from automotive and related products grew 37% per year. The energy business is near profitability, but still making losses. The cost of its revenue sits at$2.92 billion.The Future Of EVEV sales globally should grow around 20% per annum over the next decade.The number of electric vehicles sold globally is projected to grow at 17.5% per annum. We are projecting the per unit price of an EV to grow at just 2% per annum as competition improves, interest rates normalize, and used EV's come online.The Tesla StoryThe future of Tesla is very up in the air. Elon Musk has all sorts of stories for investors revolving around autonomous drive, robotics, ride sharing, and artificial intelligence. However, we do not yet have substantial revenues from Musk's many grand ideas. When those revenues do materialize, the businesses are likely to be loss making, much like TSLA's energy business has been thus far. Competition will be strong in these fields. There are many innovative entrepreneurs, especially in China and the U.S.MarginsWhen it comes to Tesla's margins, there is just as much uncertainty. Margins for the auto business may have peaked as the industry seems to be at a cyclical high. Competition will only get stronger. Keep in mind that the auto industry is capital intensive and cyclical, with many producers reporting negative net margins in times of recession. On the other hand, the energy business should be profitable in the future. And, it is likely that Tesla develops another prominent business that is also profitable in 10 years' time.We are assuming these factors cancel each other out, resulting in a continuation of TSLA'scurrent net margin of 13.5%.Our EstimateCombining our projections for Tesla's market share, margins, EV sales, and energy business, we estimate Tesla will grow net income at 20% per year. The probability of underperformance in automotive and the probability of profitable developments in a new business appear equally weighted.The ValuationWe are projecting TSLA to make $52 billion in 2032. This is a result of growing the company's net income($8.4 billion) at 20% per annum. We are also projecting shares outstanding to remain unchanged at 1.036 billion. This results in 2032earnings per share of $50.20.Our base case scenario is a multiple of 20on TSLA's 2032 earnings. This gives us a 2032 price target of $1004 per share, implying a return of just 3% per annum.Risks To The ThesisThere is risk on the upside and downside of this estimation. Tesla is a constantly evolving business, operating in a difficult industry. The company can change materially in 10 years' time. On the upside, a 2032 price of $1500/share is reasonable if there are positive developments in A.I. and renewables. On the downside, a 2032 price of $500/share is possible if Tesla fails to innovate or loses market share. Remember, mature auto manufacturers tend to have a PE of just 10.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":228,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9023444590,"gmtCreate":1652954930410,"gmtModify":1676535195667,"author":{"id":"4108081253060460","authorId":"4108081253060460","name":"Kobeba","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d4b9f427a8190f4903e580a059f12ef3","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4108081253060460","authorIdStr":"4108081253060460"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Who wrote this? So much baisness . Time will tell.&nbsp;","listText":"Who wrote this? So much baisness . Time will tell.&nbsp;","text":"Who wrote this? So much baisness . Time will tell.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9023444590","repostId":"1152395035","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1152395035","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1652974277,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1152395035?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-05-19 23:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: Never Bought it and Never Will","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1152395035","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Tesla stock is overvalued and Chief Executive Officer  Elon Musk is bored.The company has yet to begin planning on a true mass market car.Tesla loses share wherever the middle class gets into the electric revolution.I am not a fan ofTesla or TSLA stock.I question the basic bull thesis. Having taken the luxury end of the market, the theory goes that Tesla can take the mass market by simply scaling up.But in markets where there is mass market demand forelectric vehicles , like China and Europe, Te","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><b>Tesla</b>(<b><u>TSLA</u></b>) stock is overvalued and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Elon Musk is bored.</li><li>The company has yet to begin planning on a true mass market car.</li><li>Tesla loses share wherever the middle class gets into the electric revolution.</li></ul><p>I am not a fan of <b>Tesla</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>TSLA</u></b>) or TSLA stock.</p><p>I question the basic bull thesis. Having taken the luxury end of the market, the theory goes that Tesla can take the mass market by simply scaling up.</p><p>But in markets where there is mass market demand for electric vehicles (EVs), like China and Europe, Tesla’s market share is dropping. The mass market doesn’t need huge batteries, fancy fittings, or a $50,000 price tag. Why pay 18 times revenue to own Cadillac when <b>Chevrolet</b> is what the people want?</p><p>Dances With Bulls</p><p>If I am right, Tesla is overvalued. Tesla is getting fat on the cream of the market when any dairyman knows the big sales are in low fat milk.</p><p>Tesla is indeed getting fat. Tesla bears turned into bulls after first quarter numbers came out. Tesla earned $3.3 billion, $2.86/share under GAAP, on first quarter revenue of $18.7 billion. Auto revenues were 87% ahead of a year earlier. But they were just 5% ahead of the previous quarter.</p><p>Bulls think Tesla is <b>Apple</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>AAPL</u></b>), that it has the market sewn up. They say there will be haves and have-nots in the new tech market and Tesla will be one of the haves. They see continuing supply chain worries and assume Tesla will surmount them while rivals won’t.</p><p>Tesla has taught its industry many lessons, but the lessons are being learned. Buy a <b>Toyota</b>(NYSE:<b><u>TM</u></b>) today and you’ll be faced with a host of services aimed at tying you to the brand. For car dealers, service and support are where the money is. Even <b>General Motors</b>(NYSE:<b><u>GM</u></b>) has learned that you build your full line off one platform to keep costs down and focus on battery supply.</p><p>Despite Tesla’s pretensions, in other words, it’s a car company. No car company is worth 18 times its revenue.</p><p>The Great Replacement</p><p>A walk around my middle-class neighborhood tells the story. The “Great Replacement” today isn’t people quitting their jobs. It’s replacing America’s gas-guzzling fleet with EVs.</p><p>Tesla made the big jump look cool. We have two Teslas on my block. But for most people it’s still a question of small steps. That’s why I recently became the fifth homeowner on my street to buy a Toyota hybrid. It cuts my gas use in half, but I don’t have to worry about finding a plug in the middle of West Virginia. It also cost half what a Tesla costs.</p><p>Cars with plugs, like Tesla, still represent just 5% of the U.S. car market. Hybrids are where the growth is in today’s mass market, which is dominated by Japanese, Korean and Chinese names.</p><p>Tesla’s market share in China is falling. In Europe, <b>Volkswagen</b>(OTCMKTS:<b><u>VWAGY</u></b>) and <b>Stellantis</b>(NYSE:<b><u>STLA</u></b>) now have bigger shares of the plug-in market.</p><p>The Bottom Line on TSLA Stock</p><p>Bulls look at CEO Elon Musk’s effort to buy <b>Twitter</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>TWTR</u></b>) and worry that might distract him. They even bought Tesla when it seemed he might back off the Twitter purchase.</p><p>The Twitter saga tells me Musk is bored. Tesla is being run by car guys. The great strategic cut-and-thrust is mostly over. He wants to do something else. So don’t buy or sell Tesla stock based on Musk.</p><p>Look at the fundamentals. In the near term, they’re great, but you’re overpaying. In the longer run, they’re troubled, which is why even tech whisperer Cathie Woods has been loading up on GM stock.</p><p>My bottom line: Don’t go near Tesla until it can make a Chevy.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Never Bought it and Never Will</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Never Bought it and Never Will\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-19 23:31 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-never-bought-it-and-never-will/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla(TSLA) stock is overvalued and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Elon Musk is bored.The company has yet to begin planning on a true mass market car.Tesla loses share wherever the middle class gets ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-never-bought-it-and-never-will/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/05/tsla-stock-never-bought-it-and-never-will/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1152395035","content_text":"Tesla(TSLA) stock is overvalued and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Elon Musk is bored.The company has yet to begin planning on a true mass market car.Tesla loses share wherever the middle class gets into the electric revolution.I am not a fan of Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA) or TSLA stock.I question the basic bull thesis. Having taken the luxury end of the market, the theory goes that Tesla can take the mass market by simply scaling up.But in markets where there is mass market demand for electric vehicles (EVs), like China and Europe, Tesla’s market share is dropping. The mass market doesn’t need huge batteries, fancy fittings, or a $50,000 price tag. Why pay 18 times revenue to own Cadillac when Chevrolet is what the people want?Dances With BullsIf I am right, Tesla is overvalued. Tesla is getting fat on the cream of the market when any dairyman knows the big sales are in low fat milk.Tesla is indeed getting fat. Tesla bears turned into bulls after first quarter numbers came out. Tesla earned $3.3 billion, $2.86/share under GAAP, on first quarter revenue of $18.7 billion. Auto revenues were 87% ahead of a year earlier. But they were just 5% ahead of the previous quarter.Bulls think Tesla is Apple(NASDAQ:AAPL), that it has the market sewn up. They say there will be haves and have-nots in the new tech market and Tesla will be one of the haves. They see continuing supply chain worries and assume Tesla will surmount them while rivals won’t.Tesla has taught its industry many lessons, but the lessons are being learned. Buy a Toyota(NYSE:TM) today and you’ll be faced with a host of services aimed at tying you to the brand. For car dealers, service and support are where the money is. Even General Motors(NYSE:GM) has learned that you build your full line off one platform to keep costs down and focus on battery supply.Despite Tesla’s pretensions, in other words, it’s a car company. No car company is worth 18 times its revenue.The Great ReplacementA walk around my middle-class neighborhood tells the story. The “Great Replacement” today isn’t people quitting their jobs. It’s replacing America’s gas-guzzling fleet with EVs.Tesla made the big jump look cool. We have two Teslas on my block. But for most people it’s still a question of small steps. That’s why I recently became the fifth homeowner on my street to buy a Toyota hybrid. It cuts my gas use in half, but I don’t have to worry about finding a plug in the middle of West Virginia. It also cost half what a Tesla costs.Cars with plugs, like Tesla, still represent just 5% of the U.S. car market. Hybrids are where the growth is in today’s mass market, which is dominated by Japanese, Korean and Chinese names.Tesla’s market share in China is falling. In Europe, Volkswagen(OTCMKTS:VWAGY) and Stellantis(NYSE:STLA) now have bigger shares of the plug-in market.The Bottom Line on TSLA StockBulls look at CEO Elon Musk’s effort to buy Twitter(NASDAQ:TWTR) and worry that might distract him. They even bought Tesla when it seemed he might back off the Twitter purchase.The Twitter saga tells me Musk is bored. Tesla is being run by car guys. The great strategic cut-and-thrust is mostly over. He wants to do something else. So don’t buy or sell Tesla stock based on Musk.Look at the fundamentals. In the near term, they’re great, but you’re overpaying. In the longer run, they’re troubled, which is why even tech whisperer Cathie Woods has been loading up on GM stock.My bottom line: Don’t go near Tesla until it can make a Chevy.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":129,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}