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Do you think there will be a sell-off in May? And why?For example, you may find some clues from the earnings, the trend of $S&P 500(.SPX)$ or huge gains since the YTD. Please share your opinions with evidence in the comment. Buy in June and Retire by Noon | Robinhood | Know Your MemeTips:Everyone who shares specific experiences or strategies will be rewarded. 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Howard Marks has been writing \"investment memoranda\" for investors since 1990s. In his investment memoranda in January 2000, he predicted the bursting of the technology stock bubble, and then rose to fame. \"Investment memoranda\" became a must-read document on Wall Street.</p><p>\"The first email I opened and read was Howard Marks' memo. I always learned something from it. His books were even more so,\" Warren Buffett said.</p><p>Buffett rarely recommends investment books, but he strongly recommends Howard Marks' book \"The Most Important Thing in Investing,\" and says he read it twice.</p><p>This article is an excellent talk by Howard Marks in Shanghai, sharing how the investment philosophy behind \"The Most Important Thing in Investing\" came about and where these impacts came from.</p><p>I'm glad everyone came here to listen to me about the book I wrote, my investment philosophy, and how we manage money.</p><p>I want to take this opportunity to reiterate what I firmly believe they are necessary in investing. What I also want to talk to you today is how the investment philosophy behind this book came into being and where these impacts came from.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6751656f0d5e3443e7003f9db76070cd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"413\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>1. You must understand that the world is made of uncertainty</b></p><p>We need to realize that the world is a world of uncertainty, so that we can understand how to deal with it. If you think that the way to deal with the future is to predict exactly what will happen, think that you are correct and use that as a basis for action, you are asking for trouble. If something unexpected happens, you may end badly.</p><p>The humorous Mark Twain said, \"What gets you into trouble is not what you don't know, but what you think you know and are wrong.\" I think that believing too much in the future can be the source of danger.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5368906abff5d5a517cebc079de1257d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"402\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>Too much uncertainty is the source of danger in our world</b></p><p>It is very dangerous to base investment on future predictions. My predictions don't have to be much better than others. After all, no one can make correct predictions of the future macro. Therefore, our investment portfolio must perform well in various macro situations to control risks. Only by knowing that we are ignorant can we accept the many possibilities of the future.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91729fd2cecd28f5691b58fdc8e203f2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>3. I understand that the development of the world is often controlled by random events</b></p><p>We can't say what the future will certainly be, which is made up of random events that can happen. Even if you know the distribution of random events, the relative probabilities of each event, you don't know when these events will occur. I think it's important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/41ed244801f3a7fe1dba77e482484bef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>4. Leave a safe space to cope with uncertainty</b></p><p>Arguably, in my career, I have been successful because I have studied what might happen in the future, but don't think it will happen, leaving room for uncertainty, leaving room for variables, and preparing myself for life in a world of uncertainty.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/103c085e452fed0c456586740d8e21f7\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"480\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>5. Risk is exactly what most people think will not happen</b></p><p>What is risk? A very good reading is: \"Risk Means More Things Can Happen Than Will Happen\" (Eloy Dimson, a professor at the London School of Economics, points out).</p><p>If a risk is in the current market and most investors think it will happen, then it is not a risk; If most investors think something won't happen in the future, then this is where the risk lies.</p><p>But the truth is that we never know if something is going to happen, and from that point of view, we must try to understand the future, to understand its possibilities, but never assume that we have fully figured it out.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/45346b201312ac992d91e9a589ccbf62\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>6. No particularly bad record is better than good and bad</b></p><p>Simon Ramo wrote a book about tennis that had a big impact on me. Simon says there are two types of tennis matches, one is a winner's match; One is the loser's game.</p><p>The winner's game is played by pros like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Sampras. The winner of the tennis championship match is skilled and skilled, and there is no need to worry about the bounce of the tennis ball, the speed of the wind, the glare of the sun, the lack of skill, etc. They can fight as much as they want, literally as they like.</p><p>The winner's game belongs to the winner. The winner hits the ball, the opponent can't catch it. To win in a championship game, you have to hit the kind of very tricky ball that only a winner can hit.</p><p>As for us, we can't play like a winner. We won the game mainly by avoiding hitting the ball that the loser did.</p><p>Amateurs like me can't hit tricky balls, and even simple balls can't be caught sometimes. What we pursue is to hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back.</p><p>We knew that if we could fight back ten times, our opponent would probably only be able to do nine. Sooner or later, the opponent's ball will go out of bounds or fail to cross the net. We don't win by hitting good shots, we win by not hitting bad shots.</p><p>When I read this article and extended this concept to investing, I felt enlightened at the time. We live in an uncertain world where it is difficult to always make successful investments, and those who pursue great success often fail.</p><p>I came to the conclusion that for me, perhaps the best way for us to be successful in investing in the long run is to not make mistakes, not make wrong investments, and no bad years. As long as a good investment is accumulated one by one, as long as the performance is stable year after year, 20, 30, 40 and 50 years, it will be a successful investment career in the long run.</p><p>The point is that it is impossible to be right every time, it is difficult to know what the future will hold, it is difficult to make a good shot or make a beautiful investment and succeed overnight, but as long as we avoid failure, we are on the right path to success through investment. In the investment business, if you haven't had a bad performance in 20, 30, or 40 years, your record is top-notch.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a34eae22141b5d6d1664373b1999a30a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>7. Investment should not be based on macroeconomic forecasts</b></p><p>Macro forecasting refers to predicting how the economy, market and interest will change in the future, and studying the overall situation. These things, firstly, are difficult to study and understand, and secondly, it is difficult to study and understand better than others.</p><p>For people like me, to predict what will happen to the world economy, the U.S. economy or the Chinese economy or interest rates or China's A shares next year, what advantage do I have over others? It is difficult to understand these things better than others have studied. And we achieve better investment performance by understanding better than others' research.</p><p>Oaktree Capital does not base its investments on future macro forecasts.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/568a4512af2303d8f1bb9e92e5786bfa\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>8. How should you invest?</b></p><p>First, you have to consider what kind of investment results will come out of the future. When constructing a portfolio, the portfolio must be at least OK, that is, it is still viable in any possible scenario, and only under this condition should it be invested.</p><p>Second, try to control risks. The risk is not to get out of control in any scenario you can consider so that you don't encounter poor investment performance.</p><p>Third, we don't assume that we can understand macroeconomics, but we really should know more micro stuff. What is microscopic? It's the company, the industry and the securities. On these specific, smaller-picture task lists, if you can study them very hard and have the right techniques, you can understand these companies more deeply than others.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3608dc4cf2c20427504193a36c19d04\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>9. The Holy Grail of Investment: Bargains</b></p><p>When I first joined Citibank in 1968, the company invested in the so-called \"Pretty Fifty,\" the 50 best and fastest-growing companies in the United States, including<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HPQ\">HP</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TXN\">Texas Instruments</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KO\">Coca Cola</a>Merck,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LLY\">Lilly</a>。 The problem is that these companies are so expensive that if you bought them in 1968 and held them for five years, by 1973 you would have lost 80 to 90 percent, even though you bought the best companies in America.</p><p>In addition, some of these companies had high hopes and ended up falling, such as,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KODK\">Kodak</a>Polaroid. Few people take pictures with film nowadays, and few people use Polaroids because we can take countless pictures for free with our phones. These companies basically disappeared, but in 1968, people invested in these companies at very high prices, believing that they would always be so perfect, but never imagined that they would disappear. The point is, you can also lose a lot of money when you buy a very good company.</p><p>We can learn a truth from this: a good company is not the same thing as a good investment. You can lose a lot of money by buying a good company, and you can make a lot of money by buying a bad company. This tells us that it is certainly not the texture of the company that determines the investment income.</p><p>So, what determines investment returns? Is the price to buy. If the company is expensive, you may lose money. You may make money, or even safely, if companies with poor texture are cheap. This is very important to the formation of my investment philosophy.</p><p>I've learned that it's not what you buy that matters, it's how much you spend on it. The key is not to buy good things, but to buy well. This is very, very important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/60e6e337c5d9f04947275ad92b45483f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>10. The wise creates, the fools imitate</b></p><p>In investing, every trend goes to extremes at the end.</p><p>When A shares are 2000 points, the people who invest in A shares are doing the right thing. But then, the stock rose, and others were attracted, and others bought, the more they bought, the more they bought, the more excited they bought, and they bought with leverage. Those who bought at 5000 later suffered.</p><p>This tells us that if you act early in the trend, at the right timing and price, you can safely make good gains. If you act at the end of a trend, regardless of timing and price, you could be in big trouble.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/efb5834bd7cc7e92def8f35ca4009408\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>11. Never forget that six-foot tall people can drown in a river that is five feet deep on average</b></p><p>When we make investment, we can't just pursue average survival, but must survive every day.</p><p>Therefore, we have to build a portfolio that can withstand the worst. Our investment management must be very professional, with a strong sense of risk and a strong sense of conservation, so that we can get through the difficult times.</p><p>Good days are easy to live. When good days are good, it is not difficult to survive. At this time, in fact, everyone is living well. What's hard is who gets through the tough times, those with too aggressive portfolios, those with too much leverage that can't survive the tough times, six-footers that drown, those are the people talking.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/54ec5cdb9c594cf699a43411d32f2191\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>12. It is difficult to distinguish whether it is much earlier than others or whether it is wrong</b></p><p>As mentioned earlier, investing faces the future, and in the investment world, it is difficult to do the right thing, and it is impossible to always do the right thing at the right time. That said, even if we are doing the right thing, our timing may not be entirely right.</p><p>We may be too early, and if we are too late, we may be in trouble. So you should wish you were too early. But if you're too early, for a while, it looks like you're doing it wrong.</p><p>When A shares reached 4,000 points, some people said no, it was too dangerous, and they left the market. From 4000 to 5000, it looks like they're wrong and they feel wrong themselves, they probably regret leaving at 4000 and can only watch others make money all the way to 5000.</p><p>They feel like they're doing it wrong, but they're right, just too early. Our timing can never be accurate. You must have courage and conviction, and if you do something for good reason, the facts will eventually prove that your actions are rational.</p><p>I have to have courage myself. I buy something whose price is falling, I buy it because it is cheap, because it is falling, I like it, I buy it. It will continue to fall. I have to be confident that I am right. You can't sell it just because it continues to fall. So you have to keep in mind that it's hard to tell if you were a lot ahead of others or if you were doing it wrong until the facts finally prove you are right.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/091822289ba4245413c67ec3cfd391ef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>What is the task of the asset manager?</b></p><p>First, control risks.</p><p>What are the tasks of an asset manager? Is making a lot of money? Beat the market? Is it outperforming Wall Street? We disagree with none of these. The first job of an asset management manager is to control risk. We at Oaktree Asset put risk control at the highest level.</p><p>We position ourselves as an alternative asset manager. We do not invest in mainstream stocks and mainstream bonds. We discover corporate bonds, convertible securities, non-performing bonds, controllable investments (energy, infrastructure), real estate, publicly listed stocks (undervalued), emerging markets, etc. that are less concerned about teaching. We have our own investment strategies for each category.</p><p>Second, stability.</p><p>Our investment performance is not going to be first this year and then last next year. We are generally in the middle, because of our outstanding risk control, we will stand out in tough times. We have achieved that goal over the past 30 years.</p><p>We get average returns. Average returns are OK in a bull market. Everyone makes money in a bull market, which is enough, but our customers want us to beat the average performance in a bear market.</p><p>A very simple summary is: we get average returns in bull markets, and excess returns in bear markets.</p><p>What would happen if we could achieve this goal year after year, for decades? Our performance will be less volatile than average. The overall higher-than-average return is because our outstanding performance in the bear market has allowed us to achieve this goal, which is indeed necessary so that our customers will feel happy.</p><p>I think this is the secret of our company's growth. After 20 years, we have reached a scale of 100 billion dollars, from 3.5 billion dollars in 2006 to 100 billion dollars today. We really started our asset management business in 2007, and 2008 was during the financial crisis. We accepted at least 10 billion dollars in 2007, because our performance will be better than average in the bear market. We can show this investment result to people, and everyone feels that Oaktree Capital is trustworthy and capable of delivering a sustained and stable investment result. And we grow!</p><p>Third, we are looking for the part of the market that is less effective.</p><p>We think it is very difficult for investors to gain an advantage to make money in the part of the market that people can understand; But for the parts of the market that people usually can't understand, you can do relatively better, like bonds, convertible bonds, personal mortgages, infrastructure implementation, real estate, emerging markets... These projects are relatively easier to gain investment advantages, but not so easy, just relatively easier than products in a fully effective market.</p><p>Fourth, we believe that macroeconomic forecasting is not the key to successful investment.</p><p>As mentioned earlier, I don't believe macro forecasts work. In my opinion, macro forecasting is not necessary for a successful investment. All the successful investors I know, even Buffett included, did not succeed because the macro forecasts were better than others. Their success depends on their knowledge of companies, industries and securities.</p><p>Finally, we don't speculate on the ups and downs of the market.</p><p>When managing funds, we don't put money in it just because we think the market is going to rise, and take it out just because we think the market is going to fall. It's too easy to guess the ups and downs like this. We just enter the market and then basically stay in the market. However, we will adjust the degree of aggression or conservation from the price of market assets and the psychology of surrounding investors.</p><p>Long-term investment success is not achieved through great investments, in the baseball metaphor, not by hitting home runs occasionally, long-term success for investors stems from building a safe portfolio with few failures and few bad years. If you can do this seemingly simple but difficult thing right, you can achieve very successful investment performance over several decades. That's our goal and I think we've achieved it. That's what I want to share with you all.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ee355aa3c1360abf8698134c634c090f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>14. Regarding asset allocation, Howard suggested</b></p><p>1. Just as eggs should not be put in the same basket, we don't know the future, so everyone should diversify their investments.</p><p>2. There is no \"Magic Number\" (specific investment allocation ratio). For investors, investment needs to be done step by step. When you feel good, do more and take it step by step. If you don't understand, too much investment will only make it worse. You can make mistakes, but you can't lose all your money.</p><p>3. At the same time, it is also discouraged to use a very small proportion (less than 5%) in the investment portfolio to invest in the aspects you are optimistic about, because too small an investment will play a small role in your portfolio no matter how it performs, and it is meaningless.</p><p>4. Don't invest in things you don't understand. If you don't understand it at all, don't do it.</p><p></body></html></p>","source":"lsy1645511055786","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Investment Philosophy Behind \"Wall Street Must-Read Classics\"</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Investment Philosophy Behind \"Wall Street Must-Read Classics\"\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">期乐会</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2022-02-22 14:24</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>Howard Marks graduated from the Wharton School and co-founded the U.S.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/OAK\">Oaktree Capital</a>Management Company (Oaktree Capital), which today has $100 billion in assets under management. Howard Marks has been writing \"investment memoranda\" for investors since 1990s. In his investment memoranda in January 2000, he predicted the bursting of the technology stock bubble, and then rose to fame. \"Investment memoranda\" became a must-read document on Wall Street.</p><p>\"The first email I opened and read was Howard Marks' memo. I always learned something from it. His books were even more so,\" Warren Buffett said.</p><p>Buffett rarely recommends investment books, but he strongly recommends Howard Marks' book \"The Most Important Thing in Investing,\" and says he read it twice.</p><p>This article is an excellent talk by Howard Marks in Shanghai, sharing how the investment philosophy behind \"The Most Important Thing in Investing\" came about and where these impacts came from.</p><p>I'm glad everyone came here to listen to me about the book I wrote, my investment philosophy, and how we manage money.</p><p>I want to take this opportunity to reiterate what I firmly believe they are necessary in investing. What I also want to talk to you today is how the investment philosophy behind this book came into being and where these impacts came from.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6751656f0d5e3443e7003f9db76070cd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"413\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>1. You must understand that the world is made of uncertainty</b></p><p>We need to realize that the world is a world of uncertainty, so that we can understand how to deal with it. If you think that the way to deal with the future is to predict exactly what will happen, think that you are correct and use that as a basis for action, you are asking for trouble. If something unexpected happens, you may end badly.</p><p>The humorous Mark Twain said, \"What gets you into trouble is not what you don't know, but what you think you know and are wrong.\" I think that believing too much in the future can be the source of danger.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5368906abff5d5a517cebc079de1257d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"402\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>Too much uncertainty is the source of danger in our world</b></p><p>It is very dangerous to base investment on future predictions. My predictions don't have to be much better than others. After all, no one can make correct predictions of the future macro. Therefore, our investment portfolio must perform well in various macro situations to control risks. Only by knowing that we are ignorant can we accept the many possibilities of the future.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91729fd2cecd28f5691b58fdc8e203f2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>3. I understand that the development of the world is often controlled by random events</b></p><p>We can't say what the future will certainly be, which is made up of random events that can happen. Even if you know the distribution of random events, the relative probabilities of each event, you don't know when these events will occur. I think it's important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/41ed244801f3a7fe1dba77e482484bef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>4. Leave a safe space to cope with uncertainty</b></p><p>Arguably, in my career, I have been successful because I have studied what might happen in the future, but don't think it will happen, leaving room for uncertainty, leaving room for variables, and preparing myself for life in a world of uncertainty.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/103c085e452fed0c456586740d8e21f7\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"480\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>5. Risk is exactly what most people think will not happen</b></p><p>What is risk? A very good reading is: \"Risk Means More Things Can Happen Than Will Happen\" (Eloy Dimson, a professor at the London School of Economics, points out).</p><p>If a risk is in the current market and most investors think it will happen, then it is not a risk; If most investors think something won't happen in the future, then this is where the risk lies.</p><p>But the truth is that we never know if something is going to happen, and from that point of view, we must try to understand the future, to understand its possibilities, but never assume that we have fully figured it out.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/45346b201312ac992d91e9a589ccbf62\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>6. No particularly bad record is better than good and bad</b></p><p>Simon Ramo wrote a book about tennis that had a big impact on me. Simon says there are two types of tennis matches, one is a winner's match; One is the loser's game.</p><p>The winner's game is played by pros like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Sampras. The winner of the tennis championship match is skilled and skilled, and there is no need to worry about the bounce of the tennis ball, the speed of the wind, the glare of the sun, the lack of skill, etc. They can fight as much as they want, literally as they like.</p><p>The winner's game belongs to the winner. The winner hits the ball, the opponent can't catch it. To win in a championship game, you have to hit the kind of very tricky ball that only a winner can hit.</p><p>As for us, we can't play like a winner. We won the game mainly by avoiding hitting the ball that the loser did.</p><p>Amateurs like me can't hit tricky balls, and even simple balls can't be caught sometimes. What we pursue is to hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back.</p><p>We knew that if we could fight back ten times, our opponent would probably only be able to do nine. Sooner or later, the opponent's ball will go out of bounds or fail to cross the net. We don't win by hitting good shots, we win by not hitting bad shots.</p><p>When I read this article and extended this concept to investing, I felt enlightened at the time. We live in an uncertain world where it is difficult to always make successful investments, and those who pursue great success often fail.</p><p>I came to the conclusion that for me, perhaps the best way for us to be successful in investing in the long run is to not make mistakes, not make wrong investments, and no bad years. As long as a good investment is accumulated one by one, as long as the performance is stable year after year, 20, 30, 40 and 50 years, it will be a successful investment career in the long run.</p><p>The point is that it is impossible to be right every time, it is difficult to know what the future will hold, it is difficult to make a good shot or make a beautiful investment and succeed overnight, but as long as we avoid failure, we are on the right path to success through investment. In the investment business, if you haven't had a bad performance in 20, 30, or 40 years, your record is top-notch.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a34eae22141b5d6d1664373b1999a30a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>7. Investment should not be based on macroeconomic forecasts</b></p><p>Macro forecasting refers to predicting how the economy, market and interest will change in the future, and studying the overall situation. These things, firstly, are difficult to study and understand, and secondly, it is difficult to study and understand better than others.</p><p>For people like me, to predict what will happen to the world economy, the U.S. economy or the Chinese economy or interest rates or China's A shares next year, what advantage do I have over others? It is difficult to understand these things better than others have studied. And we achieve better investment performance by understanding better than others' research.</p><p>Oaktree Capital does not base its investments on future macro forecasts.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/568a4512af2303d8f1bb9e92e5786bfa\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>8. How should you invest?</b></p><p>First, you have to consider what kind of investment results will come out of the future. When constructing a portfolio, the portfolio must be at least OK, that is, it is still viable in any possible scenario, and only under this condition should it be invested.</p><p>Second, try to control risks. The risk is not to get out of control in any scenario you can consider so that you don't encounter poor investment performance.</p><p>Third, we don't assume that we can understand macroeconomics, but we really should know more micro stuff. What is microscopic? It's the company, the industry and the securities. On these specific, smaller-picture task lists, if you can study them very hard and have the right techniques, you can understand these companies more deeply than others.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3608dc4cf2c20427504193a36c19d04\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>9. The Holy Grail of Investment: Bargains</b></p><p>When I first joined Citibank in 1968, the company invested in the so-called \"Pretty Fifty,\" the 50 best and fastest-growing companies in the United States, including<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HPQ\">HP</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TXN\">Texas Instruments</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KO\">Coca Cola</a>Merck,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LLY\">Lilly</a>。 The problem is that these companies are so expensive that if you bought them in 1968 and held them for five years, by 1973 you would have lost 80 to 90 percent, even though you bought the best companies in America.</p><p>In addition, some of these companies had high hopes and ended up falling, such as,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KODK\">Kodak</a>Polaroid. Few people take pictures with film nowadays, and few people use Polaroids because we can take countless pictures for free with our phones. These companies basically disappeared, but in 1968, people invested in these companies at very high prices, believing that they would always be so perfect, but never imagined that they would disappear. The point is, you can also lose a lot of money when you buy a very good company.</p><p>We can learn a truth from this: a good company is not the same thing as a good investment. You can lose a lot of money by buying a good company, and you can make a lot of money by buying a bad company. This tells us that it is certainly not the texture of the company that determines the investment income.</p><p>So, what determines investment returns? Is the price to buy. If the company is expensive, you may lose money. You may make money, or even safely, if companies with poor texture are cheap. This is very important to the formation of my investment philosophy.</p><p>I've learned that it's not what you buy that matters, it's how much you spend on it. The key is not to buy good things, but to buy well. This is very, very important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/60e6e337c5d9f04947275ad92b45483f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>10. The wise creates, the fools imitate</b></p><p>In investing, every trend goes to extremes at the end.</p><p>When A shares are 2000 points, the people who invest in A shares are doing the right thing. But then, the stock rose, and others were attracted, and others bought, the more they bought, the more they bought, the more excited they bought, and they bought with leverage. Those who bought at 5000 later suffered.</p><p>This tells us that if you act early in the trend, at the right timing and price, you can safely make good gains. If you act at the end of a trend, regardless of timing and price, you could be in big trouble.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/efb5834bd7cc7e92def8f35ca4009408\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>11. Never forget that six-foot tall people can drown in a river that is five feet deep on average</b></p><p>When we make investment, we can't just pursue average survival, but must survive every day.</p><p>Therefore, we have to build a portfolio that can withstand the worst. Our investment management must be very professional, with a strong sense of risk and a strong sense of conservation, so that we can get through the difficult times.</p><p>Good days are easy to live. When good days are good, it is not difficult to survive. At this time, in fact, everyone is living well. What's hard is who gets through the tough times, those with too aggressive portfolios, those with too much leverage that can't survive the tough times, six-footers that drown, those are the people talking.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/54ec5cdb9c594cf699a43411d32f2191\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>12. It is difficult to distinguish whether it is much earlier than others or whether it is wrong</b></p><p>As mentioned earlier, investing faces the future, and in the investment world, it is difficult to do the right thing, and it is impossible to always do the right thing at the right time. That said, even if we are doing the right thing, our timing may not be entirely right.</p><p>We may be too early, and if we are too late, we may be in trouble. So you should wish you were too early. But if you're too early, for a while, it looks like you're doing it wrong.</p><p>When A shares reached 4,000 points, some people said no, it was too dangerous, and they left the market. From 4000 to 5000, it looks like they're wrong and they feel wrong themselves, they probably regret leaving at 4000 and can only watch others make money all the way to 5000.</p><p>They feel like they're doing it wrong, but they're right, just too early. Our timing can never be accurate. You must have courage and conviction, and if you do something for good reason, the facts will eventually prove that your actions are rational.</p><p>I have to have courage myself. I buy something whose price is falling, I buy it because it is cheap, because it is falling, I like it, I buy it. It will continue to fall. I have to be confident that I am right. You can't sell it just because it continues to fall. So you have to keep in mind that it's hard to tell if you were a lot ahead of others or if you were doing it wrong until the facts finally prove you are right.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/091822289ba4245413c67ec3cfd391ef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>What is the task of the asset manager?</b></p><p>First, control risks.</p><p>What are the tasks of an asset manager? Is making a lot of money? Beat the market? Is it outperforming Wall Street? We disagree with none of these. The first job of an asset management manager is to control risk. We at Oaktree Asset put risk control at the highest level.</p><p>We position ourselves as an alternative asset manager. We do not invest in mainstream stocks and mainstream bonds. We discover corporate bonds, convertible securities, non-performing bonds, controllable investments (energy, infrastructure), real estate, publicly listed stocks (undervalued), emerging markets, etc. that are less concerned about teaching. We have our own investment strategies for each category.</p><p>Second, stability.</p><p>Our investment performance is not going to be first this year and then last next year. We are generally in the middle, because of our outstanding risk control, we will stand out in tough times. We have achieved that goal over the past 30 years.</p><p>We get average returns. Average returns are OK in a bull market. Everyone makes money in a bull market, which is enough, but our customers want us to beat the average performance in a bear market.</p><p>A very simple summary is: we get average returns in bull markets, and excess returns in bear markets.</p><p>What would happen if we could achieve this goal year after year, for decades? Our performance will be less volatile than average. The overall higher-than-average return is because our outstanding performance in the bear market has allowed us to achieve this goal, which is indeed necessary so that our customers will feel happy.</p><p>I think this is the secret of our company's growth. After 20 years, we have reached a scale of 100 billion dollars, from 3.5 billion dollars in 2006 to 100 billion dollars today. We really started our asset management business in 2007, and 2008 was during the financial crisis. We accepted at least 10 billion dollars in 2007, because our performance will be better than average in the bear market. We can show this investment result to people, and everyone feels that Oaktree Capital is trustworthy and capable of delivering a sustained and stable investment result. And we grow!</p><p>Third, we are looking for the part of the market that is less effective.</p><p>We think it is very difficult for investors to gain an advantage to make money in the part of the market that people can understand; But for the parts of the market that people usually can't understand, you can do relatively better, like bonds, convertible bonds, personal mortgages, infrastructure implementation, real estate, emerging markets... These projects are relatively easier to gain investment advantages, but not so easy, just relatively easier than products in a fully effective market.</p><p>Fourth, we believe that macroeconomic forecasting is not the key to successful investment.</p><p>As mentioned earlier, I don't believe macro forecasts work. In my opinion, macro forecasting is not necessary for a successful investment. All the successful investors I know, even Buffett included, did not succeed because the macro forecasts were better than others. Their success depends on their knowledge of companies, industries and securities.</p><p>Finally, we don't speculate on the ups and downs of the market.</p><p>When managing funds, we don't put money in it just because we think the market is going to rise, and take it out just because we think the market is going to fall. It's too easy to guess the ups and downs like this. We just enter the market and then basically stay in the market. However, we will adjust the degree of aggression or conservation from the price of market assets and the psychology of surrounding investors.</p><p>Long-term investment success is not achieved through great investments, in the baseball metaphor, not by hitting home runs occasionally, long-term success for investors stems from building a safe portfolio with few failures and few bad years. If you can do this seemingly simple but difficult thing right, you can achieve very successful investment performance over several decades. That's our goal and I think we've achieved it. That's what I want to share with you all.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ee355aa3c1360abf8698134c634c090f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>14. Regarding asset allocation, Howard suggested</b></p><p>1. Just as eggs should not be put in the same basket, we don't know the future, so everyone should diversify their investments.</p><p>2. There is no \"Magic Number\" (specific investment allocation ratio). For investors, investment needs to be done step by step. When you feel good, do more and take it step by step. If you don't understand, too much investment will only make it worse. You can make mistakes, but you can't lose all your money.</p><p>3. At the same time, it is also discouraged to use a very small proportion (less than 5%) in the investment portfolio to invest in the aspects you are optimistic about, because too small an investment will play a small role in your portfolio no matter how it performs, and it is meaningless.</p><p>4. Don't invest in things you don't understand. If you don't understand it at all, don't do it.</p><p></body></html></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> source：<a href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/b1RLIOWPqoqGRFbKd_MSnw\">期乐会</a></p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cb5398fed733ffbbc94ab1b9a49946a8","relate_stocks":{"BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BRK.A":"伯克希尔","BK4176":"多领域控股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BRK.B":"伯克希尔B","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓"},"source_url":"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/b1RLIOWPqoqGRFbKd_MSnw","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1187542871","content_text":"导读：霍华德·马克斯毕业于沃顿商学院，1995年与人联合创建的美国橡树资本管理公司（Oaktree Capital），如今管理资产规模达1000亿美元。霍华德·马克斯自上世纪90年代开始针对投资人撰写“投资备忘录”，2000年1月份的投资备忘录中，他预言了科技股泡沫破裂，之后声名鹊起，“投资备忘录”成为华尔街的必读文件。“我第一时间打开并阅读的邮件就是霍华德·马克斯的备忘录。我总能从中学到东西。他的书籍更是如此”，沃伦·巴菲特说。巴菲特很少推荐投资书籍，他却大力推荐霍华德·马克斯的书《投资最重要的事》，而且说他读了两遍。本文是霍华德·马克斯在上海的一次精彩演讲，分享《投资最重要的事》背后的投资哲学是如何产生的，这些影响是从哪里来的。很高兴大家来这里听我讲我写的书，我的投资哲学，和我们如何管理金钱。我想借这个机会，重申一下哪些东西是我在投资中坚定地相信他们是必须的，我今天还想与大家谈论的是在这本书背后的投资哲学是如何产生的，这些影响是从哪里来的。1、你必须理解世界是由不确定性构成的我们要认识到，世界是一个充满不确定性的世界，这样才能了解如何应对这个世界。要是你觉得应对未来的方法是准确预测将来会发生什么，认为自己正确无误并把这作为行动依据，肯定是自找麻烦。要是意料之外的事情发生了，你的结局可能很糟糕。幽默的马克·吐温说过：“让你陷入麻烦的，不是你不知道的事，而是你自以为知道、其实错误的事。”我认为，太相信未来可能是危险的根源。2、太多的不确定性是我们这个世界危险的来源把投资建立在对未来的预测上是一件很危险的事，我的预测不必比其他人好到哪里，毕竟没有人对未来宏观能做出正确的预测。所以我们的投资组合一定要在各种宏观情况下都有不错的表现，以此控制风险。知道我们无知，才能接受未来的多种可能。3、我理解的世界的发展往往是由随机事件控制的我们不能说未来一定会怎样，未来是由可能发生的随机事件组成的。就算你知道随机事件的分布、各个事件的相对概率，你也不知道这些事件什么时候会发生。我觉得这很重要。4、留下安全空间应对不确定性可以说，在我的职业生涯中，我能取得成功，就是因为我研究将来可能发生什么、但是不认为一定会发生，给不确定性留有余地、给可变因素留有余地，为不确定性的世界中的生活做好准备。5、风险恰恰是大多数人认为不会发生的事什么是风险？一个非常好的解读是：“风险是指总有意料之外的事情发生”(Risk Means More Things Can Happen Than Will Happen)（伦敦经济学院教授埃洛伊·迪姆森指出的）。如果一个风险在当前市场上，大多数投资者都认为会发生，那么这就不是风险；如果大多数投资者都认为某件事未来不会发生，那么这件事就是风险之所在。但是真相是我们永远不知道某一件事情会不会发生，从这一点来看，我们又必须努力去认知未来，去了解其可能性，但是永远不要假设我们已经完全搞清楚了。6、没有特别糟糕的记录好过时好时坏西蒙·拉莫(Simon Ramo)写了一本关于网球的书，对我产生了很大影响。西蒙说有两种网球比赛，一种是赢家的比赛；一种是输家的比赛。赢家的比赛是费德勒、德约科维奇、纳达尔、桑普拉斯这样的职业选手打的。网球冠军赛中的赢家技巧娴熟，球技炉火纯青，根本不用担心网球的反弹、风速、阳光刺眼、技术不到家等情况。他们想怎么打就怎么打，简直随心所欲。赢家的比赛是属于赢家的。赢家打出去的球，对手接不住。要在冠军赛中获胜，必须打出赢家才能打出来的那种非常刁钻的球。至于我们，我们打不出来赢家那样的球。我们比赛获胜，主要是靠避免打出输家那样的球。像我这样的业余爱好者打不出刁钻的球，就连简单的球有时都接不住。我们追求的就是把球打回去，我们就是把球打回去，我们就是把球打回去，我们就是把球打回去。我们知道要是我们能打回去十次，对手可能只能做到九次。或早或晚，对手的球就会出界或者过不了网。我们不靠打出好球获胜，我们靠不打坏球获胜。当我读到这篇文章时，把这个概念引申到投资上，我当时就有醍醐灌顶的感觉。我们生活在不确定的世界，很难总是做出成功的投资，那些追求伟大成功的人往往却失败了。我得出了一个结论，对我来说，我们要在投资中长期取得成功，或许最好的方式是不犯错，不做错误的投资，没有糟糕的年份。只要一笔一笔积累良好的投资，只要一年又一年业绩稳健，二十年、三十年、四十年、五十年，长此以往就是成功的投资生涯。关键是不可能每次都对，很难知道将来会怎样，很难打出一记好球或做出一笔漂亮的投资，一蹴而就地成功，但是我们只要避免失败，就走上了通过投资成功的正路。在投资这行，要是你20年、30年、40年都没有出现过糟糕的业绩，你的记录就是一流的。7、投资不应该基于宏观经济预测宏观预测是指预测经济、市场、利息将来会如何变化，研究的是大局。这些东西，首先是很难研究明白，其次是很难比别人研究得更明白。像我这样的人，去预测明年世界经济、美国经济或中国经济或利率或中国 A 股会怎样，我和别人比有什么优势？这些东西，很难比别人研究的更明白。而我们取得更好的投资业绩，靠的就是比别人研究的更明白。橡树资本的投资不以未来的宏观预测为依据。8、你应该如何投资呢第一，你要考虑未来会出什么样的投资结果。构建一个投资组合时，这个投资组合至少要OK，即在其任何可能出现的场景下依然是可行的，在这个条件下才来投资。第二，努力控制风险。这个风险是要在你能够考虑到的任何场景下不至于失控，这样你才不至于遇到糟糕的投资业绩。第三，我们不会假设我们能够理解宏观经济，但是我们确实应该知道更多微观的东西。什么是微观呢？就是公司，行业还有证券。在这些具体，比较小的画面的任务清单上，如果你能非常努力的研究这些同时又有正确的技巧，你就可以做到比别人更深入理解这些公司。9、投资的圣杯：便宜货1968 年，我刚进花旗银行工作时，公司投资了所谓的“漂亮五十”，就是美国最优秀、成长最快的五十家公司，包括惠普、德州仪器、可口可乐、默克、礼来。问题是这些公司太贵了，要是你 1968 年买了这些公司，持有五年，到了 1973 年，你会亏损 80% 到 90%，虽然你买的是美国最好的公司。此外，在这些公司里，有的被寄予厚望，最后却陨落了，比如，柯达、宝丽来。现在用胶卷拍照的人很少了，也很少有人用拍立得相机，因为我们用手机可以免费拍无数的照片。这些公司基本就消失了，可当时在 1968 年，人们以非常高的价钱投资这些公司，相信它们永远都会那么完美，想不到它们会消失。关键是，你买很优秀的公司也可能亏大钱。我们从中可以学到一个道理：好公司和好投资不是一回事。买好公司能亏很多钱，而买差公司能赚很多钱。这告诉我们，决定投资收益的肯定不是公司的质地。那么，决定投资收益的是什么？是买入的价格。要是公司价格贵，你可能亏钱。如果质地较差的公司价格便宜，你可能赚钱，甚至是安全地赚钱。这一点对我的投资理念形成非常重要。我认识到，重要的不是买什么，而是花了多少钱买的。关键不是买好东西，而是要买得好。这非常非常重要。10、智者开创，愚人模仿在投资中，每个趋势到最后都会走向极端。当 A 股 2000 点时，投资 A 股的人做的是正确的事。但是后来，股票上涨，其他人也被吸引来了，其他人也买，越买越多，越买越兴奋，还用杠杆买。后来在 5000 点买入的人就遭殃了。这告诉我们，如果你在趋势早期行动，在正确的时机和价格行动，你就能安全地取得良好收益。如果你在趋势末期行动，不管时机和价格，你可能遇上大麻烦。11、永远不要忘记六英尺高的人，可能淹死在平均五尺深的小河里我们做投资，不能只追求平均活下来，必须每天都活下来。因此，我们构建的投资组合必须要能经受得起最恶劣的考验。我们对投资的管理必须要很专业、有很强的风险意识、有很强的保守意识，这样我们就能度过艰难的时光。好日子容易过，日子好的时候，活下来并不难，这时候其实大家过得都很好。难的是谁能度过艰难的时光，那些投资组合过于激进，那些杠杆过高的人挨不过艰难时刻，六英尺高的人却淹死了，说的就是这些人。12、是比别人早了很多，还是做错了，两者很难区分正如前面所说的，投资面对的是未来，在投资领域，做正确的事情很困难，始终在正确的时机做正确的事情是不可能的。也就是说，即使我们做的事情是对的，我们的时机可能不是完全正确。我们很可能太早了，要是太晚，可能就麻烦了。所以你应该希望自己太早了。但是如果你太早了，在一段时间里，看起来你是做错了。当 A 股达到 4000 点时，有些人说不行，太危险了，他们离场了。从 4000 点到 5000 点，看起来他们错了，他们自己也觉得错了，他们可能很后悔在 4000 点离场，只能看着别人一路赚钱到 5000 点。他们觉得做错了，其实他们是对的，只是太早了。我们对时机的把握永远都不可能准确无误。你必须有勇气、有信念，如果自己做的事情有充分的理由，最后事实终将证明你的行动是理智的。我自己就必须有勇气。我买价格正在下跌的东西，我买是因为便宜，是因为跌了，我喜欢，我就买了。它会继续下跌。我必须要很自信，相信自己是正确的。不能因为继续跌，就卖了。所以你要牢记，在事实最终证明你是正确的之前，是比别人早了很多，还是做错了，两者很难区分。13、资产管理人的任务是什么第一，控制风险。资产管理人的任务是什么？是赚很多钱？击败市场？是跑赢华尔街？这些我们都不同意。资产管理经理的第一工作是控制风险。我们橡树资产把风险控制放在最高级别来看待。我们把自己定位为一个另类的资产管理人。我们不投资主流的股票，主流的债券，我们发掘教少被关注的公司债，可转换证券，不良债券，可控投资（能源，基础建设），房地产，公开上市的股票（低估），新兴市场等，对应每一个类别，我们都有自己的投资策略。第二，稳定性。我们的投资绩效不会今年排名第一，然后明年排最后。我们一般在中间，因为我们杰出的风险控制，我们会在艰难的时段会突颖而出。我们在过去30年达成了这个目标。我们获得平均的收益，平均收益在牛市已经算是可以了，牛市每个人都赚钱，这已经足够了，但是我们的客户想要我们在熊市的时候业绩能够超出平均水平。非常简单的概括就是：牛市我们获得平均收益，熊市我们获得超额收益。如果我们能够一年又一年的，数十年的达成这个目标，会出现什么情况呢？我们的业绩波动性会低于平均水平。整体高出平均收益的回报，就是因为我们在熊市杰出的表现让我们把这个目标做到了，这也确实是很有必要的，这样我们的客户就会感到开心。我认为这就是我们公司成长的秘密，我们经过20年达到千亿美元的规模，从2006的35亿到达今天1000亿，我们真正开始资产管理业务是在2007年，2008年正是金融危机期间，我们至少在2007年接受了100亿资金，因为我们的业绩在熊市的时候会好过平均水平，我们能够为人们展示这个投资结果，大家就觉得橡树资本值得信赖，有能力交付一个持续的稳定的投资成绩。我们就成长了！第三，我们寻找的是不太有效的市场那部分。我们认为人们能够理解的那部分市场，投资者要获得优势去赚钱，是非常困难的；但是对于人们通常不能理解的那部分市场，你能够做到相对好一点，像债券，可转债券，个人抵押，基础实施建设，房地产，新兴市场......这些项目获得投资优势相对要容易一点，但也没那么容易，只是相对于充分有效的市场上的产品相对容易一点。第四，我们相信宏观经济的预测不是成功投资的关键。前面已经讲过，我不相信宏观预测行得通。我认为，宏观预测不是成功投资的必要条件。我所知道的所有的成功的投资者，甚至包括巴菲特在内，都不是因为宏观预测比别人做得更好才取得成功的。他们取得成功靠的是他们关于公司、行业和证券的知识。最后一点，我们不猜测市场涨跌。在管理资金时，我们不会因为我们认为市场要涨了，就把钱投进去，认为市场要跌了，就把钱拿出来。这样猜涨跌太容易错了。我们就是进入市场，然后基本就留在市场里。但是我们会从市场资产的价格和周围投资者的心理出发，调整进取或保守的程度。长期投资成功不是通过伟大的投资取得的，以棒球为喻，不是来自偶尔打出本垒打，投资者的长期成功源于构建一个安全的投资组合，其中失败的很少、糟糕的年份很少。要是你能把这件看起来简单、其实很难的事情做好，你就能在几十年里取得非常成功的投资业绩。这是我们的目标，我认为我们已经做到了。这就是我想和大家分享的。14、关于资产配置，霍华德建议1、正如鸡蛋不要放在同一个篮子里，我们对未来未知，因此每个人都该多元化投资。2、没有“Magic 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14:12","market":"fut","language":"zh","title":"Munger: How to face the huge pullback/retracement in investing?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1179897507","media":"点拾投资","summary":"导读：这段时间市场出现了比较大的调整，也导致许多人的投资组合有所回撤。那么投资大师又是如何面对回撤的呢？今天分享一篇2019年我的好友，也是很优秀的基金经理黄韵翻译过的一篇关于查理·芒格如何面对回撤文","content":"<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>During this period, the market has seen a relatively big adjustment, which also led to a pullback/retracement in many people's investment portfolios. So how do investment gurus face pullback/retracement? Today, I would like to share an article on how Charlie Munger faced pullback/retracement translated by my friend and excellent fund manager Huang Yun in 2019. Even today, it is particularly appropriate. This also shows from the side that no matter how good the company is, there is a huge pullback/retracement every few years.<b>Foreword:</b></p><p>The content of this chapter describes a slightly cruel real market, that is, both a long-term upward market and a long-term upward company will inevitably experience large downward fluctuations, which is very similar to the market environment we are in at present. How to face market losses calmly is quite difficult for any investor, because we have to consider not only the volatility of the investment portfolio, but also the feelings of fund holders. The demands of these two aspects are also contradictory in some extremely downward market environments. Maybe we as investors have the ability to bear market losses, but we may lose our investors as a result. As a great investment mentor, Munger's personal experience gives us a good lesson on how to really have patience, discipline, and the ability to not go crazy even when suffering losses and adversity.</p><p><b>Learn to bear losses</b></p><p><i><b>You need to have patience, discipline and the ability not to go crazy even in the face of loss and adversity.</b></i></p><p><i><b>-Charlie Munger, 2005</b></i></p><p>Without a doubt,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NFLX\">Netflix</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon</a>And<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">Google</a>Are three of the most successful companies in the past decade. Their products have profoundly changed the way we live, and if their shareholders can stick to their shares for a long time, these shareholders will also receive huge investment returns. However, one of the oldest financial rules is that returns are always accompanied by risks. If you want to make a huge return on your investment, you are also doomed to take the risks that come with it.</p><p>Since its initial listing in 1997, Amazon's stock price has risen as much as 38,600%, equivalent to a compound annual rate of return of 35.5%. This means that an initial investment of $1,000 will become $387,000 by today. But in reality, the difficulty of actually turning that $1,000 into $387,000 over the past 20 years cannot be underestimated. Three times in history, Amazon's share price has fallen by more than 50%. The first was from December 1999 to October 2001, when it lost 95% of its market capitalization. During that time, the initial hypothetical $1,000 investment would have fallen from a high of $54,433 to $3,045, a loss of $51,388.</p><p>This is why it is not simple to say that being able to buy and hold a long-term winner. Perhaps you do know that \"Amazon is going to change the world,\" but even that won't make investing any easier.</p><p>Another revolutionary company, Netflix, has a compound yield of 38% since it went public in May 2002. But achieving this gain is also almost beyond the investment discipline one can afford. Netflix's share price has fallen by more than 50% four times, and it fell by more than 82% between July 2011 and September 2012. This amounts to an initial investment of $1,000 rising to $36,792 and then shrinking to $6,629. Will investors really be able to live with their initial investment pullback/retracement more than thirty times? Especially the 500% gain disappeared in just 14 months!</p><p>Google is the youngest of the three, with a compounded annual rate of return of 25% since going public in 2004. He offers investors a better investment experience than holding Amazon or Netflix. Google's share price has fallen more than 50% only once, when it fell 65% between November 2007 and November 2008. A lot of investors couldn't stand this period when his stock price saw a sharp pullback/retracement. During these 264 days, Google's turnover reached $845 billion, while Google's average market value at that time was less than $153 billion. That said, shares were changed hands 5.5 times during that time, which cost many investors the opportunity to earn 515% returns over the next eight years.</p><p>Charlie Munger has never been interested in investing in companies such as Amazon, Netflix and Google. But the companies he has invested in for a long time that have allowed him to earn huge investment returns have also seen huge pullback/retracement in a short period of time. Munger,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">Berkshire</a>Vice Chairman of Hathaway, known for being a longtime partner of Warren Buffett. His intelligent and philosophical quotes are collectively called Mungerism.<b><i>He likes to think from multiple perspectives with different ways of thinking, and one of his famous quotes is \"If you know where I will die, then I will never go to that place\". \"People count too much and think too little,\" he said at Berkshire Hathaway's 2002 shareholder meeting.</i></b></p><p>One thing that separates Munger from most of us mediocre people is that he will never be drawn to investments outside his circle of competence. He once said \"We have three baskets, which are in, out, and too hard\". Investors should all follow his advice \"If the investment target is too difficult to analyze, we turn to other investment targets. Is there anything simpler than that?\".</p><p>Today, we have a lot of new products in the market that serve investors, and these products are like those purple and green fishing baits: I think the reason why our investment management is in trouble is as revealed by the following conversation I had with the tackle boss. I asked him, \"My God, these purple and green baits! Do fish really get hooked for this?\", and he said, \"Sir, I don't sell fish\".</p><p>In 1948, Munger graduated from Harvard Law School and followed in his father's footsteps to successfully carve out a career in law. In the early years of Munger's investing career, he earned his first million dollars by investing in real estate projects. His investing enthusiasm was ignited in 1959, the year Ed Davis introduced him to Buffett as his first investors. Buffett was surprised that he easily got $100,000 from Ed Davis, because Davis didn't seem to pay much attention to Buffett's investment strategy. The reason for this is that Buffett resembles Charlie Munger, another investor Davis wholeheartedly trusts. The two of them were so similar that Davis once filled out Munger's name on a check to Buffett.</p><p>Munger and Buffett hit it off. After years of communication, learning, and sharing with Buffett, Munger and other partners founded a law firm in 1962 (Munger, Tolles & Olson; Charlie left in 1965), and he also founded a hedge fund firm (Wheeler, Munger & Company).</p><p>Munger's investment performance is remarkable. From 1962 to 1969, the fund returned an incredible 37.1% per annum before rates. Especially when you look at the market environment at that time, this achievement is even more commendable. In these eight years, picking stocks has not been a simple task. In fact, the S&P 500, including Dividend, has only gained 6.6% in the same time. For the entire 14 years of the fund's existence, Munger's average annual return was 24%, with a compound rate of return of 19.82%, much higher than the index, and the S&P 500 (including Dividend) compounded rate of return was only 5.2% during the same period. Munger's limited partners will be profitable if they can persist with Munger, but this is not as easy as holding Amazon all the time.</p><p>One of the best lessons investors can learn from past history is that there are no good times without bad times. A long-term investment often contains large losses in short-term stages. If you can't accept short-term losses, it will be hard for you to reap long-term market returns. Munger said:</p><p><b><i>If you can't take two, three or more market declines of more than 50% in a century in stride, you are not a good investor, and you can only earn relatively mediocre investment returns compared to investors who can rationally handle market volatility</i></b>。</p><p>Warren Buffett once said of Munger: \"He is willing to accept greater ups and downs in performance. He happens to be a person with a concentrated psychological structure\". Of course, Munger is not only so simple as focus, his focus is based on diverse thinking at a higher level. At the end of 1974, 61% of its funds were invested in blue-chip printing companies. In that worst bear market since the Great Depression, this company inflicted serious damage on Munger's portfolio. The blue-chip printing company's sales exceeded $124 million that year. But it soon began to decline, with sales plummeting to $9 million by 1982 and only $25,000 by 2006. \"Considering the initial business of Blue Chip Printing Company,\" I predicted that its sales would drop from $120 million to less than $100,000, so I predicted from the beginning that its business alone would almost be a failure business \"\".</p><p>However, Blue Chip Printing Company, as an important asset of fund investment, later provided a large amount of funds for the acquisition of See's Candy, Buffalo Evening News and Wesco Financial Company, and was incorporated into Berkshire Hathaway in 1983.</p><p>Munger lost 31.9% in 1973 (compared to-13.1% for the Dow Jones Industrial) and 31.5% in 1974 (compared to-23.1% for the Dow). Munger said, \"We were crushed by the market between 1973 and 1974, not because of truly undervalued value, but market value because our publicly traded securities had to trade at less than half of their true value.\" It was a tough experience — 1973 to 1974 was a very unpleasant experience. \"Munger was not alone, and it was a tough process for many great investors. Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway fell from $80 in December 1972 to $40 in December 1974. The bear market of 1973 to 1974, the S&P 500, fell 50% (the Dow Jones Industrials fell 46.6%, straight back to 1958 levels).</p><p><b><i>The $1,000 invested with Charlie Munger from January 1, 1973 would become $467 by January 1, 1975. Even as the fund rose 73.2% in 1975, Munger lost its biggest investor, frustrating him and leading him to the decision to liquidate the fund.</i></b>This fund has earned a compounded return of 24.3% before deductions throughout its lifetime even through a brutal period of history from 1973 to 1974.</p><p>It's not just those star stocks that will drop more than 50%. Those indexes with long-term compound growth are also likely to have a pullback/retracement at one point. The Dow has grown 26,400% since 1914, which contains nine pullback/retracement over 30%. The Dow fell more than 90% during the Great Depression and did not return to that high of 1929 until 1955. The Dow Jones index, a blue-chip index, experienced two major pullback/retracement in the first decade of the twenty-first century (a 38% decline during the tech bubble and a 54% decline during the financial crisis).</p><p>For most ordinary investors like you and me, if we are looking for a high return on our investment, huge losses are doomed to be a part of it, whether the investment cycle is a few years or a lifetime. Munger once said \"we are passionate about keeping it simple\". You can simplify everything you want, but it won't keep you away from losing money. Even portfolios with 50/50 equity and bond allocations lost 25% during the financial crisis.</p><p><b><i>There are several ways to deal with losses. The first is that the loss is absolute, i.e. the loss of your investment.</i></b>In Munger's case, he rarely had absolute losses. During his time running his hedge fund, he experienced a 53% decline, and his Berkshire Hathaway stock has fallen more than 20% on six occasions. For the unfamiliar, pullback/retracement is the downside from the high. In other words, it happened six times that Berkshire Hathaway fell more than 20% after hitting an all-time high.</p><p><b><i>The second type of loss is relative, your opportunity cost.</i></b>In the late nineties, when internet stocks took the country by storm, Berkshire didn't invest in them. It also took their toll. From June 1998 to March 2000, Berkshire fell 49%. What's more painful, however, is that Internet stocks continue to soar. The Nasdaq 100 is up 270% over the same period! In a 1999 Berkshire Hathaway letter to shareholders, Warren Buffett wrote that \"relative returns are our concern, and during the same period, bad relative returns have resulted in unsatisfactory absolute returns\".</p><p>Whether you invest in stocks or indexes, bad relative returns are a problem to face in investing. In the five-year dot-com bubble, Berkshire Hathaway's earnings performance lagged the S&P 500 by 117%! At the time, many people questioned whether Munger and Buffett were out of touch with<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600628\">New World</a>。</p><p>The reason why Munger's wealth has continued to compound over the past 55 years is, in his own words:<i><b>Warren and I are not geniuses. We can't play chess or become piano players blindfolded. But our achievements are excellent because we are dominant in temperament, which is enough to compensate for our lack of IQ.</b></i></p><p>You have to be able to take the loss in stride. The right time to sell is not after the stock price has fallen. If you invest this way, you may be doomed to not achieve good long-term returns. Learn from history and don't try to avoid losses. Losses are inevitable. Instead, focus on ensuring that you don't put yourself in a situation where you will be forced to sell. If you know that stocks have fallen by more than 50% at one time, which will undoubtedly happen again in the future, make sure you can face and take on such situations in the future.</p><p>How to do it? Here's an example. Let's say your portfolio is worth $100,000 and you know you can't stand a loss of more than $30,000. Assuming that if the value of the stock is reduced in half and the bond will retain its value (which is definitely an assumption, there is no guarantee), then don't allocate more than 60% of the equity assets. That way even if those 60% of assets fall by half, you should be okay.</p><p></body></html></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Munger: How to face the huge pullback/retracement in investing?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMunger: How to face the huge pullback/retracement in investing?\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/67\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/9fe5d79ff06041f8a434a6ad9836f2e6);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">点拾投资 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2022-02-21 14:12</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>During this period, the market has seen a relatively big adjustment, which also led to a pullback/retracement in many people's investment portfolios. So how do investment gurus face pullback/retracement? Today, I would like to share an article on how Charlie Munger faced pullback/retracement translated by my friend and excellent fund manager Huang Yun in 2019. Even today, it is particularly appropriate. This also shows from the side that no matter how good the company is, there is a huge pullback/retracement every few years.<b>Foreword:</b></p><p>The content of this chapter describes a slightly cruel real market, that is, both a long-term upward market and a long-term upward company will inevitably experience large downward fluctuations, which is very similar to the market environment we are in at present. How to face market losses calmly is quite difficult for any investor, because we have to consider not only the volatility of the investment portfolio, but also the feelings of fund holders. The demands of these two aspects are also contradictory in some extremely downward market environments. Maybe we as investors have the ability to bear market losses, but we may lose our investors as a result. As a great investment mentor, Munger's personal experience gives us a good lesson on how to really have patience, discipline, and the ability to not go crazy even when suffering losses and adversity.</p><p><b>Learn to bear losses</b></p><p><i><b>You need to have patience, discipline and the ability not to go crazy even in the face of loss and adversity.</b></i></p><p><i><b>-Charlie Munger, 2005</b></i></p><p>Without a doubt,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NFLX\">Netflix</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon</a>And<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">Google</a>Are three of the most successful companies in the past decade. Their products have profoundly changed the way we live, and if their shareholders can stick to their shares for a long time, these shareholders will also receive huge investment returns. However, one of the oldest financial rules is that returns are always accompanied by risks. If you want to make a huge return on your investment, you are also doomed to take the risks that come with it.</p><p>Since its initial listing in 1997, Amazon's stock price has risen as much as 38,600%, equivalent to a compound annual rate of return of 35.5%. This means that an initial investment of $1,000 will become $387,000 by today. But in reality, the difficulty of actually turning that $1,000 into $387,000 over the past 20 years cannot be underestimated. Three times in history, Amazon's share price has fallen by more than 50%. The first was from December 1999 to October 2001, when it lost 95% of its market capitalization. During that time, the initial hypothetical $1,000 investment would have fallen from a high of $54,433 to $3,045, a loss of $51,388.</p><p>This is why it is not simple to say that being able to buy and hold a long-term winner. Perhaps you do know that \"Amazon is going to change the world,\" but even that won't make investing any easier.</p><p>Another revolutionary company, Netflix, has a compound yield of 38% since it went public in May 2002. But achieving this gain is also almost beyond the investment discipline one can afford. Netflix's share price has fallen by more than 50% four times, and it fell by more than 82% between July 2011 and September 2012. This amounts to an initial investment of $1,000 rising to $36,792 and then shrinking to $6,629. Will investors really be able to live with their initial investment pullback/retracement more than thirty times? Especially the 500% gain disappeared in just 14 months!</p><p>Google is the youngest of the three, with a compounded annual rate of return of 25% since going public in 2004. He offers investors a better investment experience than holding Amazon or Netflix. Google's share price has fallen more than 50% only once, when it fell 65% between November 2007 and November 2008. A lot of investors couldn't stand this period when his stock price saw a sharp pullback/retracement. During these 264 days, Google's turnover reached $845 billion, while Google's average market value at that time was less than $153 billion. That said, shares were changed hands 5.5 times during that time, which cost many investors the opportunity to earn 515% returns over the next eight years.</p><p>Charlie Munger has never been interested in investing in companies such as Amazon, Netflix and Google. But the companies he has invested in for a long time that have allowed him to earn huge investment returns have also seen huge pullback/retracement in a short period of time. Munger,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">Berkshire</a>Vice Chairman of Hathaway, known for being a longtime partner of Warren Buffett. His intelligent and philosophical quotes are collectively called Mungerism.<b><i>He likes to think from multiple perspectives with different ways of thinking, and one of his famous quotes is \"If you know where I will die, then I will never go to that place\". \"People count too much and think too little,\" he said at Berkshire Hathaway's 2002 shareholder meeting.</i></b></p><p>One thing that separates Munger from most of us mediocre people is that he will never be drawn to investments outside his circle of competence. He once said \"We have three baskets, which are in, out, and too hard\". Investors should all follow his advice \"If the investment target is too difficult to analyze, we turn to other investment targets. Is there anything simpler than that?\".</p><p>Today, we have a lot of new products in the market that serve investors, and these products are like those purple and green fishing baits: I think the reason why our investment management is in trouble is as revealed by the following conversation I had with the tackle boss. I asked him, \"My God, these purple and green baits! Do fish really get hooked for this?\", and he said, \"Sir, I don't sell fish\".</p><p>In 1948, Munger graduated from Harvard Law School and followed in his father's footsteps to successfully carve out a career in law. In the early years of Munger's investing career, he earned his first million dollars by investing in real estate projects. His investing enthusiasm was ignited in 1959, the year Ed Davis introduced him to Buffett as his first investors. Buffett was surprised that he easily got $100,000 from Ed Davis, because Davis didn't seem to pay much attention to Buffett's investment strategy. The reason for this is that Buffett resembles Charlie Munger, another investor Davis wholeheartedly trusts. The two of them were so similar that Davis once filled out Munger's name on a check to Buffett.</p><p>Munger and Buffett hit it off. After years of communication, learning, and sharing with Buffett, Munger and other partners founded a law firm in 1962 (Munger, Tolles & Olson; Charlie left in 1965), and he also founded a hedge fund firm (Wheeler, Munger & Company).</p><p>Munger's investment performance is remarkable. From 1962 to 1969, the fund returned an incredible 37.1% per annum before rates. Especially when you look at the market environment at that time, this achievement is even more commendable. In these eight years, picking stocks has not been a simple task. In fact, the S&P 500, including Dividend, has only gained 6.6% in the same time. For the entire 14 years of the fund's existence, Munger's average annual return was 24%, with a compound rate of return of 19.82%, much higher than the index, and the S&P 500 (including Dividend) compounded rate of return was only 5.2% during the same period. Munger's limited partners will be profitable if they can persist with Munger, but this is not as easy as holding Amazon all the time.</p><p>One of the best lessons investors can learn from past history is that there are no good times without bad times. A long-term investment often contains large losses in short-term stages. If you can't accept short-term losses, it will be hard for you to reap long-term market returns. Munger said:</p><p><b><i>If you can't take two, three or more market declines of more than 50% in a century in stride, you are not a good investor, and you can only earn relatively mediocre investment returns compared to investors who can rationally handle market volatility</i></b>。</p><p>Warren Buffett once said of Munger: \"He is willing to accept greater ups and downs in performance. He happens to be a person with a concentrated psychological structure\". Of course, Munger is not only so simple as focus, his focus is based on diverse thinking at a higher level. At the end of 1974, 61% of its funds were invested in blue-chip printing companies. In that worst bear market since the Great Depression, this company inflicted serious damage on Munger's portfolio. The blue-chip printing company's sales exceeded $124 million that year. But it soon began to decline, with sales plummeting to $9 million by 1982 and only $25,000 by 2006. \"Considering the initial business of Blue Chip Printing Company,\" I predicted that its sales would drop from $120 million to less than $100,000, so I predicted from the beginning that its business alone would almost be a failure business \"\".</p><p>However, Blue Chip Printing Company, as an important asset of fund investment, later provided a large amount of funds for the acquisition of See's Candy, Buffalo Evening News and Wesco Financial Company, and was incorporated into Berkshire Hathaway in 1983.</p><p>Munger lost 31.9% in 1973 (compared to-13.1% for the Dow Jones Industrial) and 31.5% in 1974 (compared to-23.1% for the Dow). Munger said, \"We were crushed by the market between 1973 and 1974, not because of truly undervalued value, but market value because our publicly traded securities had to trade at less than half of their true value.\" It was a tough experience — 1973 to 1974 was a very unpleasant experience. \"Munger was not alone, and it was a tough process for many great investors. Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway fell from $80 in December 1972 to $40 in December 1974. The bear market of 1973 to 1974, the S&P 500, fell 50% (the Dow Jones Industrials fell 46.6%, straight back to 1958 levels).</p><p><b><i>The $1,000 invested with Charlie Munger from January 1, 1973 would become $467 by January 1, 1975. Even as the fund rose 73.2% in 1975, Munger lost its biggest investor, frustrating him and leading him to the decision to liquidate the fund.</i></b>This fund has earned a compounded return of 24.3% before deductions throughout its lifetime even through a brutal period of history from 1973 to 1974.</p><p>It's not just those star stocks that will drop more than 50%. Those indexes with long-term compound growth are also likely to have a pullback/retracement at one point. The Dow has grown 26,400% since 1914, which contains nine pullback/retracement over 30%. The Dow fell more than 90% during the Great Depression and did not return to that high of 1929 until 1955. The Dow Jones index, a blue-chip index, experienced two major pullback/retracement in the first decade of the twenty-first century (a 38% decline during the tech bubble and a 54% decline during the financial crisis).</p><p>For most ordinary investors like you and me, if we are looking for a high return on our investment, huge losses are doomed to be a part of it, whether the investment cycle is a few years or a lifetime. Munger once said \"we are passionate about keeping it simple\". You can simplify everything you want, but it won't keep you away from losing money. Even portfolios with 50/50 equity and bond allocations lost 25% during the financial crisis.</p><p><b><i>There are several ways to deal with losses. The first is that the loss is absolute, i.e. the loss of your investment.</i></b>In Munger's case, he rarely had absolute losses. During his time running his hedge fund, he experienced a 53% decline, and his Berkshire Hathaway stock has fallen more than 20% on six occasions. For the unfamiliar, pullback/retracement is the downside from the high. In other words, it happened six times that Berkshire Hathaway fell more than 20% after hitting an all-time high.</p><p><b><i>The second type of loss is relative, your opportunity cost.</i></b>In the late nineties, when internet stocks took the country by storm, Berkshire didn't invest in them. It also took their toll. From June 1998 to March 2000, Berkshire fell 49%. What's more painful, however, is that Internet stocks continue to soar. The Nasdaq 100 is up 270% over the same period! In a 1999 Berkshire Hathaway letter to shareholders, Warren Buffett wrote that \"relative returns are our concern, and during the same period, bad relative returns have resulted in unsatisfactory absolute returns\".</p><p>Whether you invest in stocks or indexes, bad relative returns are a problem to face in investing. In the five-year dot-com bubble, Berkshire Hathaway's earnings performance lagged the S&P 500 by 117%! At the time, many people questioned whether Munger and Buffett were out of touch with<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600628\">New World</a>。</p><p>The reason why Munger's wealth has continued to compound over the past 55 years is, in his own words:<i><b>Warren and I are not geniuses. We can't play chess or become piano players blindfolded. But our achievements are excellent because we are dominant in temperament, which is enough to compensate for our lack of IQ.</b></i></p><p>You have to be able to take the loss in stride. The right time to sell is not after the stock price has fallen. If you invest this way, you may be doomed to not achieve good long-term returns. Learn from history and don't try to avoid losses. Losses are inevitable. Instead, focus on ensuring that you don't put yourself in a situation where you will be forced to sell. If you know that stocks have fallen by more than 50% at one time, which will undoubtedly happen again in the future, make sure you can face and take on such situations in the future.</p><p>How to do it? Here's an example. Let's say your portfolio is worth $100,000 and you know you can't stand a loss of more than $30,000. Assuming that if the value of the stock is reduced in half and the bond will retain its value (which is definitely an assumption, there is no guarantee), then don't allocate more than 60% of the equity assets. That way even if those 60% of assets fall by half, you should be 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387,000。 但实际上在过去20年中，要真的将这1000美金变为387,000美元的难度不容小觑。历史上，亚马逊的股价曾有三次跌幅超过50%。第一次是从1999年12月到2001年10月，它跌去了95％的市值。在那段时间内，初始假设的1,000美元投资将会从54,433美元的高位下跌至3,045美元，损失51,388美元。这也就是为什么会说能够买入并持有一个长期的赢家其实并不简单。也许你确实知道“亚马逊将会改变世界”，但即便如此，也不会使投资变得更加容易。另一家革命性的公司奈飞，自2002年5月上市以来的复合收益率为38％。但实现这个收益也几乎超出了人所能承受的投资纪律。奈飞的股价曾有四次跌幅超过50%，其在2011年7月至2012年9月间跌幅超过82%。这相当于初始投资的1,000美元涨到36,792美元，然后萎缩到6,629美元。投资者真的能够忍受他们的初始投资回撤三十多次吗？特别是500%收益在短短14个月内烟消云散！谷歌是这三家公司中最年轻的公司，自2004年上市以来的年复合收益率为25％。他为投资者提供了一个比持有亚马逊或Netflix更好的投资体验。 谷歌的股价只有一次跌幅超过50%，就是在2007年11月至2008年11月间跌幅达到65%。当他的股价大幅回撤时，很多投资都无法忍受这段时期。在这264天内，谷歌的换手量达到8450亿美金，而当时谷歌的平均市值不到1530亿美金。也就是说，这段时间内股票被换手了5.5次，这使很多投资者失去了未来八年能够获得515%回报的机会。查理芒格从来没有对投资亚马逊、奈飞、谷歌这类公司感过兴趣。但他长期投资过的那些让他获得巨大投资收益的公司也曾在短时期内出现过巨大的回撤。芒格，伯克希尔哈撒韦公司的副董事长，以作为沃伦巴菲特的长期合作伙伴而闻名。他那些富有智慧和哲理的名言被统称为芒格主义。他喜欢用不同的思维方式从多个角度思考问题，他的名言之一是“如果知道我会死在哪里，那我将永远不去那个地方”。在2002年伯克希尔哈撒韦股东大会上他说“人们算得太多、想得太少”。将芒格和我们大部分平庸的人区分开的一点是他永远不会被他能力圈外的投资所吸引。他曾经说过“我们有三个篮子，分别是进入、退出、太难” 。投资者都应该遵循他的建议“如果投资标的太难分析，我们就转向其他的投资标的。还有比这更简单的事情吗？” 。今天，我们的市场上涌现出很多为投资者服务的新产品，这些产品就像那些紫色和绿色的鱼饵：我想我们的投资管理之所以陷入窘境的原因就像下面这个我和渔具老板的对话所揭示的道理那样。我问他：“我的天，这些紫的和绿的鱼饵！鱼真的会因此而上钩吗？”，他说：“先生，我不卖鱼” 。1948年，芒格毕业于哈佛大学法学院，并追随其父亲的脚步成功开拓了法律事业。在芒格的早期投资生涯中，他通过投资地产项目获得了他的第一个百万美元。1959年他的投资热情被彻底点燃，这一年埃德戴维斯（Ed Davis）作为巴菲特的第一批投资者将他介绍给了巴菲特。巴菲特惊讶于他很轻松的获得了埃德戴维斯的10万美金，因为戴维斯似乎并没有太在意巴菲特的投资策略。这其中的原因在于巴菲特很像戴维斯全心全意信任的另一位投资人查理芒格。他们两人如此之像以至于戴维斯曾经在给巴菲特的支票上填了芒格的名字。芒格和巴菲特一见如故。 在和巴菲特经过多年的沟通、相互学习和分享后，芒格在1962年和其他合伙人创办了一家律师事务所（Munger，Tolles＆Olson; 查理在1965年离开），同时他也创立了一个对冲基金公司（Wheeler，Munger＆Company）。芒格的投资业绩斐然。从1962年到1969年，该基金扣除费率之前的年均回报率达到令人难以置信的37.1％。尤其是当你结合当时的市场环境看的话，这个成绩更是显的难能可贵。在这八年中，挑选股票并不是件简单的事情。 事实上，标准普尔500指数（含股息）在同一时间内只上涨了6.6％。 在整个基金存续的14年内，芒格年均回报率为24％，复合收益率为19.82％，远高于指数，同期标准普尔500指数（含股息）复合收益率仅为5.2％。 芒格的有限合伙人如果能和芒格一道坚持下来也将收益丰厚，然而这件事就像一直坚持持有亚马逊公司一样并不那么容易。投资者从过往历史中可以学到的最好一条经验就是没有坏时光就没有好时光。在一段长期的投资中往往蕴含着短期阶段性的大幅损失。如果你不能接受短期的损失，那你很难收获长期的市场回报。芒格说过：如果你对于在一个世纪内发生两三次或者更多次市场超过50%下跌不能泰然处之，你就不适合做投资，并且和那些具有能理性处理市场波动的投资者相比也只能获得相对平庸的投资收益。沃伦巴菲特曾这样评价芒格：“他愿意接受业绩出现更大的起伏，他恰好是一位心理结构倾向集中的人”。当然芒格不仅是专注这么简单，他的专注是建立在更高层面上的多元化思考。1974年底，其61％的资金投资于蓝筹印花公司。在那个自大萧条以来最糟糕的熊市里，这个公司给芒格的投资组合带来了严重的损害。 蓝筹印花公司的销售额在当年超过了1.24亿美金。但是很快就开始减少，到1982年，销售额锐减至900万美元，到2006年仅为2.5万美金。 “考虑到蓝筹印花公司的初始业务，“我预测到其销售额将从1.2亿美金降到不足10万美金，所以我从开始就预测到了其业务单独看几乎就是一个会失败的业务””。然而蓝筹印花公司作为基金投资的重要的资产，在之后为收购喜诗糖果、布法罗晚报和韦斯科金融公司等提供了大量的资金，并于1983年被纳入伯克希尔哈撒韦公司旗下。芒格在1973年损失了31.9％（相比之下，道琼斯工业指数为-13.1％），在1974年损失了31.5％（相比之下道琼斯指数为-23.1％）。 芒格说：“我们在1973年到1974年间被市场碾压了，并不是因为被真实低估的价值，而是市场价值，因为我们的公开交易证券不得不在低于他们真正价值的一半价格下交易。 “这是一段艰难的经历 -- 1973年至1974年是一个非常不愉快的经历。”芒格并不孤单，对许多伟大的投资者来说，这都是一个很艰难的过程。巴菲特的伯克希尔哈撒韦公司从1972年12月的80美元跌至1974年12月的40美元。1973年至1974年的熊市标准普尔500指数下跌50％（道琼斯工业指数下跌46.6％，直接回到1958年的水平）。与查理芒格一起从1973年1月1日开始投资的1,000美元到1975年1月1日将变为467美元。即使该基金在1975年上涨了73.2%，但芒格还是失去了其最大的投资人，这让他感到沮丧，并使他做出了清算基金的决定。这只基金在其整个生命周期即使经历了从1973年到1974年的残酷历史时期也获得了扣费前24.3%的复合收益率。不仅仅是那些明星股票会跌幅超过50%。那些长期复合增长的指数在某一个点上也都可能会发生回撤。道琼斯指数自1914年以来增长了26400%，其中包含了9次超过30%的回撤。在大萧条期间道指跌幅超过90%，直到1955年才回到1929年的那个高点。道琼斯指数作为蓝筹股指数在二十一世纪的第一个十年内就发生过两次大幅回撤（科技泡沫破灭期跌幅38%，金融危机期间跌幅54%）。对于像你我这样大多数普通的投资者而言，如果我们要寻求高额的投资回报，那么巨大亏损注定也是其中的一个部分，无论投资周期是几年还是一生。芒格曾经说过“我们热衷于保持简单” 。你可以简化你想要的一切，但这并不会使你远离亏损。即使是50/50的股票和债券配置的投资组合在金融危机期间也损失了25%。有几种方法来处理损失。第一是损失是绝对的，即你的投资损失。在芒格的例子里，他很少有绝对损失。在他管理他的对冲基金期间，他经历过53%的下跌，他持有的伯克希尔哈撒韦公司的股票有过6次跌幅超过20%。对于不熟悉的人来说，回撤就是从高点开始的下行。换句话说，伯克希尔哈撒韦创历史新高后下跌超过20%的情况发生了6次。第二种类型的损失是相对的，即你的机会成本。 在九十年代末期，当互联网股票席卷全国时，伯克希尔并没有对其进行投资。这也让他们付出了代价。 从1998年6月到2000年3月，伯克希尔下跌了49%。 然而更痛苦的是，互联网股票在持续飙升。同期纳斯达克100指数上涨了270％！ 在1999年伯克希尔哈撒韦致股东的信中，沃伦巴菲特写道“相对收益是我们关心的问题，在同期，不好的相对收益造成了并不令人满意的绝对收益”。无论你是投资股票还是指数，不好的相对收益都是投资中要面对的一个问题。在五年的互联网泡沫中，伯克希尔哈撒韦公司的收益表现落后于标准普尔500指数117％！当时很多人质疑芒格和巴菲特是否脱节与新世界。芒格的财富之所以能够在过去55年内持续复合增长的原因，用他自己的话说就是：沃伦和我并非奇才。我们不能蒙上眼睛下棋或成为钢琴演奏家。但我们的成绩斐然，因为我们在性情上占优势，这足以弥补我们在智商上的不足 。你必须能对损失泰然处之。合适的卖时点并不是在股价已经下跌之后。如果你这样投资，你可能就注定了不会取得好的长期回报。 从历史中学习，不要试图避免损失。 损失是不可避免的。相反，应该专注于确保没有把自己会被迫卖出的境地。如果你知道股票曾经跌幅超过50%，这种情况无疑将来还会发生，请确保你未来能面对和承担这样的情况。如何做？这里有个例子。假设你的投资组合价值10万美元并且你知道你不能忍受超过3万美元的损失。假设如果股票价值减少一半而债券将保留价值（这绝对是一个假设，没有任何保证），那就不要配置超过60%的股票资产。那样即使这60%的资产下跌一半，你也应该还好。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3922,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9093209633,"gmtCreate":1643627498655,"gmtModify":1676533837591,"author":{"id":"3581989768565324","authorId":"3581989768565324","name":"集韩","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9635fb33f642bba354420841f1ba0ef8","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581989768565324","idStr":"3581989768565324"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"👍🏻","listText":"👍🏻","text":"👍🏻","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9093209633","repostId":"9004448317","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":9004448317,"gmtCreate":1642676525258,"gmtModify":1676533734534,"author":{"id":"3527667667103859","authorId":"3527667667103859","name":"TigerEvents","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d95d339b1f41503e283097a33ab3ba9d","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3527667667103859","idStr":"3527667667103859"},"themes":[],"title":"Join 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May is here! Happy Labor Day! How are you going to spend your holiday?Sell in May and Go Away” – in 9 out of 11 Countries it Makes Sense to Do So snbchf.comToday we'll talk about “Sell in May and go away”. Do you think there will be a sell-off in May? And why?For example, you may find some clues from the earnings, the trend of <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/.SPX\">$S&amp;P 500(.SPX)$</a> or huge gains since the YTD. Please share your opinions with evidence in the comment. Buy in June and Retire by Noon | Robinhood | Know Your MemeTips:Everyone&nbsp;who&nbsp;shares&nbsp;specific experiences or strategies&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;rewarded.&nbsp;No&nbsp;coins&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;","listText":"Welcome&nbsp;to&nbsp;this&nbsp;week's&nbsp;Thursday&nbsp;Special!&nbsp;Tomorrow is the last trading day of April. May is here! Happy Labor Day! How are you going to spend your holiday?Sell in May and Go Away” – in 9 out of 11 Countries it Makes Sense to Do So snbchf.comToday we'll talk about “Sell in May and go away”. Do you think there will be a sell-off in May? And why?For example, you may find some clues from the earnings, the trend of <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/.SPX\">$S&amp;P 500(.SPX)$</a> or huge gains since the YTD. Please share your opinions with evidence in the comment. Buy in June and Retire by Noon | Robinhood | Know Your MemeTips:Everyone&nbsp;who&nbsp;shares&nbsp;specific experiences or strategies&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;rewarded.&nbsp;No&nbsp;coins&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;","text":"Welcome to this week's Thursday Special! Tomorrow is the last trading day of April. May is here! Happy Labor Day! How are you going to spend your holiday?Sell in May and Go Away” – in 9 out of 11 Countries it Makes Sense to Do So snbchf.comToday we'll talk about “Sell in May and go away”. Do you think there will be a sell-off in May? And why?For example, you may find some clues from the earnings, the trend of $S&P 500(.SPX)$ or huge gains since the YTD. Please share your opinions with evidence in the comment. Buy in June and Retire by Noon | Robinhood | Know Your MemeTips:Everyone who shares specific experiences or strategies will be rewarded. 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14:24","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"The Investment Philosophy Behind \"Wall Street Must-Read Classics\"","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1187542871","media":"期乐会","summary":"导读：霍华德·马克斯毕业于沃顿商学院，1995年与人联合创建的美国橡树资本管理公司（Oaktree Capital），如今管理资产规模达1000亿美元。霍华德·马克斯自上世纪90年代开始针对投资人撰写","content":"<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>Howard Marks graduated from the Wharton School and co-founded the U.S.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/OAK\">Oaktree Capital</a>Management Company (Oaktree Capital), which today has $100 billion in assets under management. Howard Marks has been writing \"investment memoranda\" for investors since 1990s. In his investment memoranda in January 2000, he predicted the bursting of the technology stock bubble, and then rose to fame. \"Investment memoranda\" became a must-read document on Wall Street.</p><p>\"The first email I opened and read was Howard Marks' memo. I always learned something from it. His books were even more so,\" Warren Buffett said.</p><p>Buffett rarely recommends investment books, but he strongly recommends Howard Marks' book \"The Most Important Thing in Investing,\" and says he read it twice.</p><p>This article is an excellent talk by Howard Marks in Shanghai, sharing how the investment philosophy behind \"The Most Important Thing in Investing\" came about and where these impacts came from.</p><p>I'm glad everyone came here to listen to me about the book I wrote, my investment philosophy, and how we manage money.</p><p>I want to take this opportunity to reiterate what I firmly believe they are necessary in investing. What I also want to talk to you today is how the investment philosophy behind this book came into being and where these impacts came from.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6751656f0d5e3443e7003f9db76070cd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"413\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>1. You must understand that the world is made of uncertainty</b></p><p>We need to realize that the world is a world of uncertainty, so that we can understand how to deal with it. If you think that the way to deal with the future is to predict exactly what will happen, think that you are correct and use that as a basis for action, you are asking for trouble. If something unexpected happens, you may end badly.</p><p>The humorous Mark Twain said, \"What gets you into trouble is not what you don't know, but what you think you know and are wrong.\" I think that believing too much in the future can be the source of danger.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5368906abff5d5a517cebc079de1257d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"402\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>Too much uncertainty is the source of danger in our world</b></p><p>It is very dangerous to base investment on future predictions. My predictions don't have to be much better than others. After all, no one can make correct predictions of the future macro. Therefore, our investment portfolio must perform well in various macro situations to control risks. Only by knowing that we are ignorant can we accept the many possibilities of the future.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91729fd2cecd28f5691b58fdc8e203f2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>3. I understand that the development of the world is often controlled by random events</b></p><p>We can't say what the future will certainly be, which is made up of random events that can happen. Even if you know the distribution of random events, the relative probabilities of each event, you don't know when these events will occur. I think it's important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/41ed244801f3a7fe1dba77e482484bef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>4. Leave a safe space to cope with uncertainty</b></p><p>Arguably, in my career, I have been successful because I have studied what might happen in the future, but don't think it will happen, leaving room for uncertainty, leaving room for variables, and preparing myself for life in a world of uncertainty.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/103c085e452fed0c456586740d8e21f7\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"480\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>5. Risk is exactly what most people think will not happen</b></p><p>What is risk? A very good reading is: \"Risk Means More Things Can Happen Than Will Happen\" (Eloy Dimson, a professor at the London School of Economics, points out).</p><p>If a risk is in the current market and most investors think it will happen, then it is not a risk; If most investors think something won't happen in the future, then this is where the risk lies.</p><p>But the truth is that we never know if something is going to happen, and from that point of view, we must try to understand the future, to understand its possibilities, but never assume that we have fully figured it out.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/45346b201312ac992d91e9a589ccbf62\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>6. No particularly bad record is better than good and bad</b></p><p>Simon Ramo wrote a book about tennis that had a big impact on me. Simon says there are two types of tennis matches, one is a winner's match; One is the loser's game.</p><p>The winner's game is played by pros like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Sampras. The winner of the tennis championship match is skilled and skilled, and there is no need to worry about the bounce of the tennis ball, the speed of the wind, the glare of the sun, the lack of skill, etc. They can fight as much as they want, literally as they like.</p><p>The winner's game belongs to the winner. The winner hits the ball, the opponent can't catch it. To win in a championship game, you have to hit the kind of very tricky ball that only a winner can hit.</p><p>As for us, we can't play like a winner. We won the game mainly by avoiding hitting the ball that the loser did.</p><p>Amateurs like me can't hit tricky balls, and even simple balls can't be caught sometimes. What we pursue is to hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back.</p><p>We knew that if we could fight back ten times, our opponent would probably only be able to do nine. Sooner or later, the opponent's ball will go out of bounds or fail to cross the net. We don't win by hitting good shots, we win by not hitting bad shots.</p><p>When I read this article and extended this concept to investing, I felt enlightened at the time. We live in an uncertain world where it is difficult to always make successful investments, and those who pursue great success often fail.</p><p>I came to the conclusion that for me, perhaps the best way for us to be successful in investing in the long run is to not make mistakes, not make wrong investments, and no bad years. As long as a good investment is accumulated one by one, as long as the performance is stable year after year, 20, 30, 40 and 50 years, it will be a successful investment career in the long run.</p><p>The point is that it is impossible to be right every time, it is difficult to know what the future will hold, it is difficult to make a good shot or make a beautiful investment and succeed overnight, but as long as we avoid failure, we are on the right path to success through investment. In the investment business, if you haven't had a bad performance in 20, 30, or 40 years, your record is top-notch.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a34eae22141b5d6d1664373b1999a30a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>7. Investment should not be based on macroeconomic forecasts</b></p><p>Macro forecasting refers to predicting how the economy, market and interest will change in the future, and studying the overall situation. These things, firstly, are difficult to study and understand, and secondly, it is difficult to study and understand better than others.</p><p>For people like me, to predict what will happen to the world economy, the U.S. economy or the Chinese economy or interest rates or China's A shares next year, what advantage do I have over others? It is difficult to understand these things better than others have studied. And we achieve better investment performance by understanding better than others' research.</p><p>Oaktree Capital does not base its investments on future macro forecasts.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/568a4512af2303d8f1bb9e92e5786bfa\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>8. How should you invest?</b></p><p>First, you have to consider what kind of investment results will come out of the future. When constructing a portfolio, the portfolio must be at least OK, that is, it is still viable in any possible scenario, and only under this condition should it be invested.</p><p>Second, try to control risks. The risk is not to get out of control in any scenario you can consider so that you don't encounter poor investment performance.</p><p>Third, we don't assume that we can understand macroeconomics, but we really should know more micro stuff. What is microscopic? It's the company, the industry and the securities. On these specific, smaller-picture task lists, if you can study them very hard and have the right techniques, you can understand these companies more deeply than others.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3608dc4cf2c20427504193a36c19d04\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>9. The Holy Grail of Investment: Bargains</b></p><p>When I first joined Citibank in 1968, the company invested in the so-called \"Pretty Fifty,\" the 50 best and fastest-growing companies in the United States, including<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HPQ\">HP</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TXN\">Texas Instruments</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KO\">Coca Cola</a>Merck,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LLY\">Lilly</a>。 The problem is that these companies are so expensive that if you bought them in 1968 and held them for five years, by 1973 you would have lost 80 to 90 percent, even though you bought the best companies in America.</p><p>In addition, some of these companies had high hopes and ended up falling, such as,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KODK\">Kodak</a>Polaroid. Few people take pictures with film nowadays, and few people use Polaroids because we can take countless pictures for free with our phones. These companies basically disappeared, but in 1968, people invested in these companies at very high prices, believing that they would always be so perfect, but never imagined that they would disappear. The point is, you can also lose a lot of money when you buy a very good company.</p><p>We can learn a truth from this: a good company is not the same thing as a good investment. You can lose a lot of money by buying a good company, and you can make a lot of money by buying a bad company. This tells us that it is certainly not the texture of the company that determines the investment income.</p><p>So, what determines investment returns? Is the price to buy. If the company is expensive, you may lose money. You may make money, or even safely, if companies with poor texture are cheap. This is very important to the formation of my investment philosophy.</p><p>I've learned that it's not what you buy that matters, it's how much you spend on it. The key is not to buy good things, but to buy well. This is very, very important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/60e6e337c5d9f04947275ad92b45483f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>10. The wise creates, the fools imitate</b></p><p>In investing, every trend goes to extremes at the end.</p><p>When A shares are 2000 points, the people who invest in A shares are doing the right thing. But then, the stock rose, and others were attracted, and others bought, the more they bought, the more they bought, the more excited they bought, and they bought with leverage. Those who bought at 5000 later suffered.</p><p>This tells us that if you act early in the trend, at the right timing and price, you can safely make good gains. If you act at the end of a trend, regardless of timing and price, you could be in big trouble.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/efb5834bd7cc7e92def8f35ca4009408\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>11. Never forget that six-foot tall people can drown in a river that is five feet deep on average</b></p><p>When we make investment, we can't just pursue average survival, but must survive every day.</p><p>Therefore, we have to build a portfolio that can withstand the worst. Our investment management must be very professional, with a strong sense of risk and a strong sense of conservation, so that we can get through the difficult times.</p><p>Good days are easy to live. When good days are good, it is not difficult to survive. At this time, in fact, everyone is living well. What's hard is who gets through the tough times, those with too aggressive portfolios, those with too much leverage that can't survive the tough times, six-footers that drown, those are the people talking.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/54ec5cdb9c594cf699a43411d32f2191\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>12. It is difficult to distinguish whether it is much earlier than others or whether it is wrong</b></p><p>As mentioned earlier, investing faces the future, and in the investment world, it is difficult to do the right thing, and it is impossible to always do the right thing at the right time. That said, even if we are doing the right thing, our timing may not be entirely right.</p><p>We may be too early, and if we are too late, we may be in trouble. So you should wish you were too early. But if you're too early, for a while, it looks like you're doing it wrong.</p><p>When A shares reached 4,000 points, some people said no, it was too dangerous, and they left the market. From 4000 to 5000, it looks like they're wrong and they feel wrong themselves, they probably regret leaving at 4000 and can only watch others make money all the way to 5000.</p><p>They feel like they're doing it wrong, but they're right, just too early. Our timing can never be accurate. You must have courage and conviction, and if you do something for good reason, the facts will eventually prove that your actions are rational.</p><p>I have to have courage myself. I buy something whose price is falling, I buy it because it is cheap, because it is falling, I like it, I buy it. It will continue to fall. I have to be confident that I am right. You can't sell it just because it continues to fall. So you have to keep in mind that it's hard to tell if you were a lot ahead of others or if you were doing it wrong until the facts finally prove you are right.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/091822289ba4245413c67ec3cfd391ef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>What is the task of the asset manager?</b></p><p>First, control risks.</p><p>What are the tasks of an asset manager? Is making a lot of money? Beat the market? Is it outperforming Wall Street? We disagree with none of these. The first job of an asset management manager is to control risk. We at Oaktree Asset put risk control at the highest level.</p><p>We position ourselves as an alternative asset manager. We do not invest in mainstream stocks and mainstream bonds. We discover corporate bonds, convertible securities, non-performing bonds, controllable investments (energy, infrastructure), real estate, publicly listed stocks (undervalued), emerging markets, etc. that are less concerned about teaching. We have our own investment strategies for each category.</p><p>Second, stability.</p><p>Our investment performance is not going to be first this year and then last next year. We are generally in the middle, because of our outstanding risk control, we will stand out in tough times. We have achieved that goal over the past 30 years.</p><p>We get average returns. Average returns are OK in a bull market. Everyone makes money in a bull market, which is enough, but our customers want us to beat the average performance in a bear market.</p><p>A very simple summary is: we get average returns in bull markets, and excess returns in bear markets.</p><p>What would happen if we could achieve this goal year after year, for decades? Our performance will be less volatile than average. The overall higher-than-average return is because our outstanding performance in the bear market has allowed us to achieve this goal, which is indeed necessary so that our customers will feel happy.</p><p>I think this is the secret of our company's growth. After 20 years, we have reached a scale of 100 billion dollars, from 3.5 billion dollars in 2006 to 100 billion dollars today. We really started our asset management business in 2007, and 2008 was during the financial crisis. We accepted at least 10 billion dollars in 2007, because our performance will be better than average in the bear market. We can show this investment result to people, and everyone feels that Oaktree Capital is trustworthy and capable of delivering a sustained and stable investment result. And we grow!</p><p>Third, we are looking for the part of the market that is less effective.</p><p>We think it is very difficult for investors to gain an advantage to make money in the part of the market that people can understand; But for the parts of the market that people usually can't understand, you can do relatively better, like bonds, convertible bonds, personal mortgages, infrastructure implementation, real estate, emerging markets... These projects are relatively easier to gain investment advantages, but not so easy, just relatively easier than products in a fully effective market.</p><p>Fourth, we believe that macroeconomic forecasting is not the key to successful investment.</p><p>As mentioned earlier, I don't believe macro forecasts work. In my opinion, macro forecasting is not necessary for a successful investment. All the successful investors I know, even Buffett included, did not succeed because the macro forecasts were better than others. Their success depends on their knowledge of companies, industries and securities.</p><p>Finally, we don't speculate on the ups and downs of the market.</p><p>When managing funds, we don't put money in it just because we think the market is going to rise, and take it out just because we think the market is going to fall. It's too easy to guess the ups and downs like this. We just enter the market and then basically stay in the market. However, we will adjust the degree of aggression or conservation from the price of market assets and the psychology of surrounding investors.</p><p>Long-term investment success is not achieved through great investments, in the baseball metaphor, not by hitting home runs occasionally, long-term success for investors stems from building a safe portfolio with few failures and few bad years. If you can do this seemingly simple but difficult thing right, you can achieve very successful investment performance over several decades. That's our goal and I think we've achieved it. That's what I want to share with you all.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ee355aa3c1360abf8698134c634c090f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>14. Regarding asset allocation, Howard suggested</b></p><p>1. Just as eggs should not be put in the same basket, we don't know the future, so everyone should diversify their investments.</p><p>2. There is no \"Magic Number\" (specific investment allocation ratio). For investors, investment needs to be done step by step. When you feel good, do more and take it step by step. If you don't understand, too much investment will only make it worse. You can make mistakes, but you can't lose all your money.</p><p>3. At the same time, it is also discouraged to use a very small proportion (less than 5%) in the investment portfolio to invest in the aspects you are optimistic about, because too small an investment will play a small role in your portfolio no matter how it performs, and it is meaningless.</p><p>4. Don't invest in things you don't understand. If you don't understand it at all, don't do it.</p><p></body></html></p>","source":"lsy1645511055786","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Investment Philosophy Behind \"Wall Street Must-Read Classics\"</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Investment Philosophy Behind \"Wall Street Must-Read Classics\"\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">期乐会</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2022-02-22 14:24</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>Howard Marks graduated from the Wharton School and co-founded the U.S.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/OAK\">Oaktree Capital</a>Management Company (Oaktree Capital), which today has $100 billion in assets under management. Howard Marks has been writing \"investment memoranda\" for investors since 1990s. In his investment memoranda in January 2000, he predicted the bursting of the technology stock bubble, and then rose to fame. \"Investment memoranda\" became a must-read document on Wall Street.</p><p>\"The first email I opened and read was Howard Marks' memo. I always learned something from it. His books were even more so,\" Warren Buffett said.</p><p>Buffett rarely recommends investment books, but he strongly recommends Howard Marks' book \"The Most Important Thing in Investing,\" and says he read it twice.</p><p>This article is an excellent talk by Howard Marks in Shanghai, sharing how the investment philosophy behind \"The Most Important Thing in Investing\" came about and where these impacts came from.</p><p>I'm glad everyone came here to listen to me about the book I wrote, my investment philosophy, and how we manage money.</p><p>I want to take this opportunity to reiterate what I firmly believe they are necessary in investing. What I also want to talk to you today is how the investment philosophy behind this book came into being and where these impacts came from.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6751656f0d5e3443e7003f9db76070cd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"413\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>1. You must understand that the world is made of uncertainty</b></p><p>We need to realize that the world is a world of uncertainty, so that we can understand how to deal with it. If you think that the way to deal with the future is to predict exactly what will happen, think that you are correct and use that as a basis for action, you are asking for trouble. If something unexpected happens, you may end badly.</p><p>The humorous Mark Twain said, \"What gets you into trouble is not what you don't know, but what you think you know and are wrong.\" I think that believing too much in the future can be the source of danger.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5368906abff5d5a517cebc079de1257d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"402\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>Too much uncertainty is the source of danger in our world</b></p><p>It is very dangerous to base investment on future predictions. My predictions don't have to be much better than others. After all, no one can make correct predictions of the future macro. Therefore, our investment portfolio must perform well in various macro situations to control risks. Only by knowing that we are ignorant can we accept the many possibilities of the future.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91729fd2cecd28f5691b58fdc8e203f2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>3. I understand that the development of the world is often controlled by random events</b></p><p>We can't say what the future will certainly be, which is made up of random events that can happen. Even if you know the distribution of random events, the relative probabilities of each event, you don't know when these events will occur. I think it's important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/41ed244801f3a7fe1dba77e482484bef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>4. Leave a safe space to cope with uncertainty</b></p><p>Arguably, in my career, I have been successful because I have studied what might happen in the future, but don't think it will happen, leaving room for uncertainty, leaving room for variables, and preparing myself for life in a world of uncertainty.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/103c085e452fed0c456586740d8e21f7\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"480\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>5. Risk is exactly what most people think will not happen</b></p><p>What is risk? A very good reading is: \"Risk Means More Things Can Happen Than Will Happen\" (Eloy Dimson, a professor at the London School of Economics, points out).</p><p>If a risk is in the current market and most investors think it will happen, then it is not a risk; If most investors think something won't happen in the future, then this is where the risk lies.</p><p>But the truth is that we never know if something is going to happen, and from that point of view, we must try to understand the future, to understand its possibilities, but never assume that we have fully figured it out.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/45346b201312ac992d91e9a589ccbf62\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>6. No particularly bad record is better than good and bad</b></p><p>Simon Ramo wrote a book about tennis that had a big impact on me. Simon says there are two types of tennis matches, one is a winner's match; One is the loser's game.</p><p>The winner's game is played by pros like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Sampras. The winner of the tennis championship match is skilled and skilled, and there is no need to worry about the bounce of the tennis ball, the speed of the wind, the glare of the sun, the lack of skill, etc. They can fight as much as they want, literally as they like.</p><p>The winner's game belongs to the winner. The winner hits the ball, the opponent can't catch it. To win in a championship game, you have to hit the kind of very tricky ball that only a winner can hit.</p><p>As for us, we can't play like a winner. We won the game mainly by avoiding hitting the ball that the loser did.</p><p>Amateurs like me can't hit tricky balls, and even simple balls can't be caught sometimes. What we pursue is to hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back, we just hit the ball back.</p><p>We knew that if we could fight back ten times, our opponent would probably only be able to do nine. Sooner or later, the opponent's ball will go out of bounds or fail to cross the net. We don't win by hitting good shots, we win by not hitting bad shots.</p><p>When I read this article and extended this concept to investing, I felt enlightened at the time. We live in an uncertain world where it is difficult to always make successful investments, and those who pursue great success often fail.</p><p>I came to the conclusion that for me, perhaps the best way for us to be successful in investing in the long run is to not make mistakes, not make wrong investments, and no bad years. As long as a good investment is accumulated one by one, as long as the performance is stable year after year, 20, 30, 40 and 50 years, it will be a successful investment career in the long run.</p><p>The point is that it is impossible to be right every time, it is difficult to know what the future will hold, it is difficult to make a good shot or make a beautiful investment and succeed overnight, but as long as we avoid failure, we are on the right path to success through investment. In the investment business, if you haven't had a bad performance in 20, 30, or 40 years, your record is top-notch.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a34eae22141b5d6d1664373b1999a30a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>7. Investment should not be based on macroeconomic forecasts</b></p><p>Macro forecasting refers to predicting how the economy, market and interest will change in the future, and studying the overall situation. These things, firstly, are difficult to study and understand, and secondly, it is difficult to study and understand better than others.</p><p>For people like me, to predict what will happen to the world economy, the U.S. economy or the Chinese economy or interest rates or China's A shares next year, what advantage do I have over others? It is difficult to understand these things better than others have studied. And we achieve better investment performance by understanding better than others' research.</p><p>Oaktree Capital does not base its investments on future macro forecasts.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/568a4512af2303d8f1bb9e92e5786bfa\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>8. How should you invest?</b></p><p>First, you have to consider what kind of investment results will come out of the future. When constructing a portfolio, the portfolio must be at least OK, that is, it is still viable in any possible scenario, and only under this condition should it be invested.</p><p>Second, try to control risks. The risk is not to get out of control in any scenario you can consider so that you don't encounter poor investment performance.</p><p>Third, we don't assume that we can understand macroeconomics, but we really should know more micro stuff. What is microscopic? It's the company, the industry and the securities. On these specific, smaller-picture task lists, if you can study them very hard and have the right techniques, you can understand these companies more deeply than others.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3608dc4cf2c20427504193a36c19d04\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>9. The Holy Grail of Investment: Bargains</b></p><p>When I first joined Citibank in 1968, the company invested in the so-called \"Pretty Fifty,\" the 50 best and fastest-growing companies in the United States, including<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HPQ\">HP</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TXN\">Texas Instruments</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KO\">Coca Cola</a>Merck,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LLY\">Lilly</a>。 The problem is that these companies are so expensive that if you bought them in 1968 and held them for five years, by 1973 you would have lost 80 to 90 percent, even though you bought the best companies in America.</p><p>In addition, some of these companies had high hopes and ended up falling, such as,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KODK\">Kodak</a>Polaroid. Few people take pictures with film nowadays, and few people use Polaroids because we can take countless pictures for free with our phones. These companies basically disappeared, but in 1968, people invested in these companies at very high prices, believing that they would always be so perfect, but never imagined that they would disappear. The point is, you can also lose a lot of money when you buy a very good company.</p><p>We can learn a truth from this: a good company is not the same thing as a good investment. You can lose a lot of money by buying a good company, and you can make a lot of money by buying a bad company. This tells us that it is certainly not the texture of the company that determines the investment income.</p><p>So, what determines investment returns? Is the price to buy. If the company is expensive, you may lose money. You may make money, or even safely, if companies with poor texture are cheap. This is very important to the formation of my investment philosophy.</p><p>I've learned that it's not what you buy that matters, it's how much you spend on it. The key is not to buy good things, but to buy well. This is very, very important.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/60e6e337c5d9f04947275ad92b45483f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>10. The wise creates, the fools imitate</b></p><p>In investing, every trend goes to extremes at the end.</p><p>When A shares are 2000 points, the people who invest in A shares are doing the right thing. But then, the stock rose, and others were attracted, and others bought, the more they bought, the more they bought, the more excited they bought, and they bought with leverage. Those who bought at 5000 later suffered.</p><p>This tells us that if you act early in the trend, at the right timing and price, you can safely make good gains. If you act at the end of a trend, regardless of timing and price, you could be in big trouble.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/efb5834bd7cc7e92def8f35ca4009408\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>11. Never forget that six-foot tall people can drown in a river that is five feet deep on average</b></p><p>When we make investment, we can't just pursue average survival, but must survive every day.</p><p>Therefore, we have to build a portfolio that can withstand the worst. Our investment management must be very professional, with a strong sense of risk and a strong sense of conservation, so that we can get through the difficult times.</p><p>Good days are easy to live. When good days are good, it is not difficult to survive. At this time, in fact, everyone is living well. What's hard is who gets through the tough times, those with too aggressive portfolios, those with too much leverage that can't survive the tough times, six-footers that drown, those are the people talking.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/54ec5cdb9c594cf699a43411d32f2191\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>12. It is difficult to distinguish whether it is much earlier than others or whether it is wrong</b></p><p>As mentioned earlier, investing faces the future, and in the investment world, it is difficult to do the right thing, and it is impossible to always do the right thing at the right time. That said, even if we are doing the right thing, our timing may not be entirely right.</p><p>We may be too early, and if we are too late, we may be in trouble. So you should wish you were too early. But if you're too early, for a while, it looks like you're doing it wrong.</p><p>When A shares reached 4,000 points, some people said no, it was too dangerous, and they left the market. From 4000 to 5000, it looks like they're wrong and they feel wrong themselves, they probably regret leaving at 4000 and can only watch others make money all the way to 5000.</p><p>They feel like they're doing it wrong, but they're right, just too early. Our timing can never be accurate. You must have courage and conviction, and if you do something for good reason, the facts will eventually prove that your actions are rational.</p><p>I have to have courage myself. I buy something whose price is falling, I buy it because it is cheap, because it is falling, I like it, I buy it. It will continue to fall. I have to be confident that I am right. You can't sell it just because it continues to fall. So you have to keep in mind that it's hard to tell if you were a lot ahead of others or if you were doing it wrong until the facts finally prove you are right.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/091822289ba4245413c67ec3cfd391ef\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"426\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>What is the task of the asset manager?</b></p><p>First, control risks.</p><p>What are the tasks of an asset manager? Is making a lot of money? Beat the market? Is it outperforming Wall Street? We disagree with none of these. The first job of an asset management manager is to control risk. We at Oaktree Asset put risk control at the highest level.</p><p>We position ourselves as an alternative asset manager. We do not invest in mainstream stocks and mainstream bonds. We discover corporate bonds, convertible securities, non-performing bonds, controllable investments (energy, infrastructure), real estate, publicly listed stocks (undervalued), emerging markets, etc. that are less concerned about teaching. We have our own investment strategies for each category.</p><p>Second, stability.</p><p>Our investment performance is not going to be first this year and then last next year. We are generally in the middle, because of our outstanding risk control, we will stand out in tough times. We have achieved that goal over the past 30 years.</p><p>We get average returns. Average returns are OK in a bull market. Everyone makes money in a bull market, which is enough, but our customers want us to beat the average performance in a bear market.</p><p>A very simple summary is: we get average returns in bull markets, and excess returns in bear markets.</p><p>What would happen if we could achieve this goal year after year, for decades? Our performance will be less volatile than average. The overall higher-than-average return is because our outstanding performance in the bear market has allowed us to achieve this goal, which is indeed necessary so that our customers will feel happy.</p><p>I think this is the secret of our company's growth. After 20 years, we have reached a scale of 100 billion dollars, from 3.5 billion dollars in 2006 to 100 billion dollars today. We really started our asset management business in 2007, and 2008 was during the financial crisis. We accepted at least 10 billion dollars in 2007, because our performance will be better than average in the bear market. We can show this investment result to people, and everyone feels that Oaktree Capital is trustworthy and capable of delivering a sustained and stable investment result. And we grow!</p><p>Third, we are looking for the part of the market that is less effective.</p><p>We think it is very difficult for investors to gain an advantage to make money in the part of the market that people can understand; But for the parts of the market that people usually can't understand, you can do relatively better, like bonds, convertible bonds, personal mortgages, infrastructure implementation, real estate, emerging markets... These projects are relatively easier to gain investment advantages, but not so easy, just relatively easier than products in a fully effective market.</p><p>Fourth, we believe that macroeconomic forecasting is not the key to successful investment.</p><p>As mentioned earlier, I don't believe macro forecasts work. In my opinion, macro forecasting is not necessary for a successful investment. All the successful investors I know, even Buffett included, did not succeed because the macro forecasts were better than others. Their success depends on their knowledge of companies, industries and securities.</p><p>Finally, we don't speculate on the ups and downs of the market.</p><p>When managing funds, we don't put money in it just because we think the market is going to rise, and take it out just because we think the market is going to fall. It's too easy to guess the ups and downs like this. We just enter the market and then basically stay in the market. However, we will adjust the degree of aggression or conservation from the price of market assets and the psychology of surrounding investors.</p><p>Long-term investment success is not achieved through great investments, in the baseball metaphor, not by hitting home runs occasionally, long-term success for investors stems from building a safe portfolio with few failures and few bad years. If you can do this seemingly simple but difficult thing right, you can achieve very successful investment performance over several decades. That's our goal and I think we've achieved it. That's what I want to share with you all.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ee355aa3c1360abf8698134c634c090f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"427\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>14. Regarding asset allocation, Howard suggested</b></p><p>1. Just as eggs should not be put in the same basket, we don't know the future, so everyone should diversify their investments.</p><p>2. There is no \"Magic Number\" (specific investment allocation ratio). For investors, investment needs to be done step by step. When you feel good, do more and take it step by step. If you don't understand, too much investment will only make it worse. You can make mistakes, but you can't lose all your money.</p><p>3. At the same time, it is also discouraged to use a very small proportion (less than 5%) in the investment portfolio to invest in the aspects you are optimistic about, because too small an investment will play a small role in your portfolio no matter how it performs, and it is meaningless.</p><p>4. Don't invest in things you don't understand. 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Capital），如今管理资产规模达1000亿美元。霍华德·马克斯自上世纪90年代开始针对投资人撰写“投资备忘录”，2000年1月份的投资备忘录中，他预言了科技股泡沫破裂，之后声名鹊起，“投资备忘录”成为华尔街的必读文件。“我第一时间打开并阅读的邮件就是霍华德·马克斯的备忘录。我总能从中学到东西。他的书籍更是如此”，沃伦·巴菲特说。巴菲特很少推荐投资书籍，他却大力推荐霍华德·马克斯的书《投资最重要的事》，而且说他读了两遍。本文是霍华德·马克斯在上海的一次精彩演讲，分享《投资最重要的事》背后的投资哲学是如何产生的，这些影响是从哪里来的。很高兴大家来这里听我讲我写的书，我的投资哲学，和我们如何管理金钱。我想借这个机会，重申一下哪些东西是我在投资中坚定地相信他们是必须的，我今天还想与大家谈论的是在这本书背后的投资哲学是如何产生的，这些影响是从哪里来的。1、你必须理解世界是由不确定性构成的我们要认识到，世界是一个充满不确定性的世界，这样才能了解如何应对这个世界。要是你觉得应对未来的方法是准确预测将来会发生什么，认为自己正确无误并把这作为行动依据，肯定是自找麻烦。要是意料之外的事情发生了，你的结局可能很糟糕。幽默的马克·吐温说过：“让你陷入麻烦的，不是你不知道的事，而是你自以为知道、其实错误的事。”我认为，太相信未来可能是危险的根源。2、太多的不确定性是我们这个世界危险的来源把投资建立在对未来的预测上是一件很危险的事，我的预测不必比其他人好到哪里，毕竟没有人对未来宏观能做出正确的预测。所以我们的投资组合一定要在各种宏观情况下都有不错的表现，以此控制风险。知道我们无知，才能接受未来的多种可能。3、我理解的世界的发展往往是由随机事件控制的我们不能说未来一定会怎样，未来是由可能发生的随机事件组成的。就算你知道随机事件的分布、各个事件的相对概率，你也不知道这些事件什么时候会发生。我觉得这很重要。4、留下安全空间应对不确定性可以说，在我的职业生涯中，我能取得成功，就是因为我研究将来可能发生什么、但是不认为一定会发生，给不确定性留有余地、给可变因素留有余地，为不确定性的世界中的生活做好准备。5、风险恰恰是大多数人认为不会发生的事什么是风险？一个非常好的解读是：“风险是指总有意料之外的事情发生”(Risk Means More Things Can Happen Than Will Happen)（伦敦经济学院教授埃洛伊·迪姆森指出的）。如果一个风险在当前市场上，大多数投资者都认为会发生，那么这就不是风险；如果大多数投资者都认为某件事未来不会发生，那么这件事就是风险之所在。但是真相是我们永远不知道某一件事情会不会发生，从这一点来看，我们又必须努力去认知未来，去了解其可能性，但是永远不要假设我们已经完全搞清楚了。6、没有特别糟糕的记录好过时好时坏西蒙·拉莫(Simon Ramo)写了一本关于网球的书，对我产生了很大影响。西蒙说有两种网球比赛，一种是赢家的比赛；一种是输家的比赛。赢家的比赛是费德勒、德约科维奇、纳达尔、桑普拉斯这样的职业选手打的。网球冠军赛中的赢家技巧娴熟，球技炉火纯青，根本不用担心网球的反弹、风速、阳光刺眼、技术不到家等情况。他们想怎么打就怎么打，简直随心所欲。赢家的比赛是属于赢家的。赢家打出去的球，对手接不住。要在冠军赛中获胜，必须打出赢家才能打出来的那种非常刁钻的球。至于我们，我们打不出来赢家那样的球。我们比赛获胜，主要是靠避免打出输家那样的球。像我这样的业余爱好者打不出刁钻的球，就连简单的球有时都接不住。我们追求的就是把球打回去，我们就是把球打回去，我们就是把球打回去，我们就是把球打回去。我们知道要是我们能打回去十次，对手可能只能做到九次。或早或晚，对手的球就会出界或者过不了网。我们不靠打出好球获胜，我们靠不打坏球获胜。当我读到这篇文章时，把这个概念引申到投资上，我当时就有醍醐灌顶的感觉。我们生活在不确定的世界，很难总是做出成功的投资，那些追求伟大成功的人往往却失败了。我得出了一个结论，对我来说，我们要在投资中长期取得成功，或许最好的方式是不犯错，不做错误的投资，没有糟糕的年份。只要一笔一笔积累良好的投资，只要一年又一年业绩稳健，二十年、三十年、四十年、五十年，长此以往就是成功的投资生涯。关键是不可能每次都对，很难知道将来会怎样，很难打出一记好球或做出一笔漂亮的投资，一蹴而就地成功，但是我们只要避免失败，就走上了通过投资成功的正路。在投资这行，要是你20年、30年、40年都没有出现过糟糕的业绩，你的记录就是一流的。7、投资不应该基于宏观经济预测宏观预测是指预测经济、市场、利息将来会如何变化，研究的是大局。这些东西，首先是很难研究明白，其次是很难比别人研究得更明白。像我这样的人，去预测明年世界经济、美国经济或中国经济或利率或中国 A 股会怎样，我和别人比有什么优势？这些东西，很难比别人研究的更明白。而我们取得更好的投资业绩，靠的就是比别人研究的更明白。橡树资本的投资不以未来的宏观预测为依据。8、你应该如何投资呢第一，你要考虑未来会出什么样的投资结果。构建一个投资组合时，这个投资组合至少要OK，即在其任何可能出现的场景下依然是可行的，在这个条件下才来投资。第二，努力控制风险。这个风险是要在你能够考虑到的任何场景下不至于失控，这样你才不至于遇到糟糕的投资业绩。第三，我们不会假设我们能够理解宏观经济，但是我们确实应该知道更多微观的东西。什么是微观呢？就是公司，行业还有证券。在这些具体，比较小的画面的任务清单上，如果你能非常努力的研究这些同时又有正确的技巧，你就可以做到比别人更深入理解这些公司。9、投资的圣杯：便宜货1968 年，我刚进花旗银行工作时，公司投资了所谓的“漂亮五十”，就是美国最优秀、成长最快的五十家公司，包括惠普、德州仪器、可口可乐、默克、礼来。问题是这些公司太贵了，要是你 1968 年买了这些公司，持有五年，到了 1973 年，你会亏损 80% 到 90%，虽然你买的是美国最好的公司。此外，在这些公司里，有的被寄予厚望，最后却陨落了，比如，柯达、宝丽来。现在用胶卷拍照的人很少了，也很少有人用拍立得相机，因为我们用手机可以免费拍无数的照片。这些公司基本就消失了，可当时在 1968 年，人们以非常高的价钱投资这些公司，相信它们永远都会那么完美，想不到它们会消失。关键是，你买很优秀的公司也可能亏大钱。我们从中可以学到一个道理：好公司和好投资不是一回事。买好公司能亏很多钱，而买差公司能赚很多钱。这告诉我们，决定投资收益的肯定不是公司的质地。那么，决定投资收益的是什么？是买入的价格。要是公司价格贵，你可能亏钱。如果质地较差的公司价格便宜，你可能赚钱，甚至是安全地赚钱。这一点对我的投资理念形成非常重要。我认识到，重要的不是买什么，而是花了多少钱买的。关键不是买好东西，而是要买得好。这非常非常重要。10、智者开创，愚人模仿在投资中，每个趋势到最后都会走向极端。当 A 股 2000 点时，投资 A 股的人做的是正确的事。但是后来，股票上涨，其他人也被吸引来了，其他人也买，越买越多，越买越兴奋，还用杠杆买。后来在 5000 点买入的人就遭殃了。这告诉我们，如果你在趋势早期行动，在正确的时机和价格行动，你就能安全地取得良好收益。如果你在趋势末期行动，不管时机和价格，你可能遇上大麻烦。11、永远不要忘记六英尺高的人，可能淹死在平均五尺深的小河里我们做投资，不能只追求平均活下来，必须每天都活下来。因此，我们构建的投资组合必须要能经受得起最恶劣的考验。我们对投资的管理必须要很专业、有很强的风险意识、有很强的保守意识，这样我们就能度过艰难的时光。好日子容易过，日子好的时候，活下来并不难，这时候其实大家过得都很好。难的是谁能度过艰难的时光，那些投资组合过于激进，那些杠杆过高的人挨不过艰难时刻，六英尺高的人却淹死了，说的就是这些人。12、是比别人早了很多，还是做错了，两者很难区分正如前面所说的，投资面对的是未来，在投资领域，做正确的事情很困难，始终在正确的时机做正确的事情是不可能的。也就是说，即使我们做的事情是对的，我们的时机可能不是完全正确。我们很可能太早了，要是太晚，可能就麻烦了。所以你应该希望自己太早了。但是如果你太早了，在一段时间里，看起来你是做错了。当 A 股达到 4000 点时，有些人说不行，太危险了，他们离场了。从 4000 点到 5000 点，看起来他们错了，他们自己也觉得错了，他们可能很后悔在 4000 点离场，只能看着别人一路赚钱到 5000 点。他们觉得做错了，其实他们是对的，只是太早了。我们对时机的把握永远都不可能准确无误。你必须有勇气、有信念，如果自己做的事情有充分的理由，最后事实终将证明你的行动是理智的。我自己就必须有勇气。我买价格正在下跌的东西，我买是因为便宜，是因为跌了，我喜欢，我就买了。它会继续下跌。我必须要很自信，相信自己是正确的。不能因为继续跌，就卖了。所以你要牢记，在事实最终证明你是正确的之前，是比别人早了很多，还是做错了，两者很难区分。13、资产管理人的任务是什么第一，控制风险。资产管理人的任务是什么？是赚很多钱？击败市场？是跑赢华尔街？这些我们都不同意。资产管理经理的第一工作是控制风险。我们橡树资产把风险控制放在最高级别来看待。我们把自己定位为一个另类的资产管理人。我们不投资主流的股票，主流的债券，我们发掘教少被关注的公司债，可转换证券，不良债券，可控投资（能源，基础建设），房地产，公开上市的股票（低估），新兴市场等，对应每一个类别，我们都有自己的投资策略。第二，稳定性。我们的投资绩效不会今年排名第一，然后明年排最后。我们一般在中间，因为我们杰出的风险控制，我们会在艰难的时段会突颖而出。我们在过去30年达成了这个目标。我们获得平均的收益，平均收益在牛市已经算是可以了，牛市每个人都赚钱，这已经足够了，但是我们的客户想要我们在熊市的时候业绩能够超出平均水平。非常简单的概括就是：牛市我们获得平均收益，熊市我们获得超额收益。如果我们能够一年又一年的，数十年的达成这个目标，会出现什么情况呢？我们的业绩波动性会低于平均水平。整体高出平均收益的回报，就是因为我们在熊市杰出的表现让我们把这个目标做到了，这也确实是很有必要的，这样我们的客户就会感到开心。我认为这就是我们公司成长的秘密，我们经过20年达到千亿美元的规模，从2006的35亿到达今天1000亿，我们真正开始资产管理业务是在2007年，2008年正是金融危机期间，我们至少在2007年接受了100亿资金，因为我们的业绩在熊市的时候会好过平均水平，我们能够为人们展示这个投资结果，大家就觉得橡树资本值得信赖，有能力交付一个持续的稳定的投资成绩。我们就成长了！第三，我们寻找的是不太有效的市场那部分。我们认为人们能够理解的那部分市场，投资者要获得优势去赚钱，是非常困难的；但是对于人们通常不能理解的那部分市场，你能够做到相对好一点，像债券，可转债券，个人抵押，基础实施建设，房地产，新兴市场......这些项目获得投资优势相对要容易一点，但也没那么容易，只是相对于充分有效的市场上的产品相对容易一点。第四，我们相信宏观经济的预测不是成功投资的关键。前面已经讲过，我不相信宏观预测行得通。我认为，宏观预测不是成功投资的必要条件。我所知道的所有的成功的投资者，甚至包括巴菲特在内，都不是因为宏观预测比别人做得更好才取得成功的。他们取得成功靠的是他们关于公司、行业和证券的知识。最后一点，我们不猜测市场涨跌。在管理资金时，我们不会因为我们认为市场要涨了，就把钱投进去，认为市场要跌了，就把钱拿出来。这样猜涨跌太容易错了。我们就是进入市场，然后基本就留在市场里。但是我们会从市场资产的价格和周围投资者的心理出发，调整进取或保守的程度。长期投资成功不是通过伟大的投资取得的，以棒球为喻，不是来自偶尔打出本垒打，投资者的长期成功源于构建一个安全的投资组合，其中失败的很少、糟糕的年份很少。要是你能把这件看起来简单、其实很难的事情做好，你就能在几十年里取得非常成功的投资业绩。这是我们的目标，我认为我们已经做到了。这就是我想和大家分享的。14、关于资产配置，霍华德建议1、正如鸡蛋不要放在同一个篮子里，我们对未来未知，因此每个人都该多元化投资。2、没有“Magic Number”（具体的投资配置比例）。对于投资者来说，投资需要一步步来，感觉好了，就多做一点，循序渐进，如果不了解，投资过多只会更糟，可以犯错，但不能血本无归。3、同时也不鼓励投资组合中用极小的比例（小于5%）去投资你看好的方面，因为过小的投资无论怎样的表现对你的组合起到的作用很小，没有意义。4、不要投资不理解的东西，如果完全不懂，就不要去做。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BRK.A":0.9,"BRK.B":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3656,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9097661560,"gmtCreate":1645445177639,"gmtModify":1676534028464,"author":{"id":"3581989768565324","authorId":"3581989768565324","name":"集韩","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9635fb33f642bba354420841f1ba0ef8","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581989768565324","idStr":"3581989768565324"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"👍🏻","listText":"👍🏻","text":"👍🏻","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9097661560","repostId":"1179897507","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1179897507","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"点拾是由行业最专业的投资研究人组成，专注于中国和海外新兴领域的互联网，消费，金融等行业研究。我们的研究，已经获得行业内最优秀的投资者认可，特别是消费，科技互联网和跨境比较是我们的优势。我们相信自己的努力一定能为您的投资助力。","home_visible":1,"media_name":"点拾投资","id":"67","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9fe5d79ff06041f8a434a6ad9836f2e6"},"pubTimestamp":1645423968,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1179897507?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-02-21 14:12","market":"fut","language":"zh","title":"Munger: How to face the huge pullback/retracement in investing?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1179897507","media":"点拾投资","summary":"导读：这段时间市场出现了比较大的调整，也导致许多人的投资组合有所回撤。那么投资大师又是如何面对回撤的呢？今天分享一篇2019年我的好友，也是很优秀的基金经理黄韵翻译过的一篇关于查理·芒格如何面对回撤文","content":"<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>During this period, the market has seen a relatively big adjustment, which also led to a pullback/retracement in many people's investment portfolios. So how do investment gurus face pullback/retracement? Today, I would like to share an article on how Charlie Munger faced pullback/retracement translated by my friend and excellent fund manager Huang Yun in 2019. Even today, it is particularly appropriate. This also shows from the side that no matter how good the company is, there is a huge pullback/retracement every few years.<b>Foreword:</b></p><p>The content of this chapter describes a slightly cruel real market, that is, both a long-term upward market and a long-term upward company will inevitably experience large downward fluctuations, which is very similar to the market environment we are in at present. How to face market losses calmly is quite difficult for any investor, because we have to consider not only the volatility of the investment portfolio, but also the feelings of fund holders. The demands of these two aspects are also contradictory in some extremely downward market environments. Maybe we as investors have the ability to bear market losses, but we may lose our investors as a result. As a great investment mentor, Munger's personal experience gives us a good lesson on how to really have patience, discipline, and the ability to not go crazy even when suffering losses and adversity.</p><p><b>Learn to bear losses</b></p><p><i><b>You need to have patience, discipline and the ability not to go crazy even in the face of loss and adversity.</b></i></p><p><i><b>-Charlie Munger, 2005</b></i></p><p>Without a doubt,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NFLX\">Netflix</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon</a>And<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">Google</a>Are three of the most successful companies in the past decade. Their products have profoundly changed the way we live, and if their shareholders can stick to their shares for a long time, these shareholders will also receive huge investment returns. However, one of the oldest financial rules is that returns are always accompanied by risks. If you want to make a huge return on your investment, you are also doomed to take the risks that come with it.</p><p>Since its initial listing in 1997, Amazon's stock price has risen as much as 38,600%, equivalent to a compound annual rate of return of 35.5%. This means that an initial investment of $1,000 will become $387,000 by today. But in reality, the difficulty of actually turning that $1,000 into $387,000 over the past 20 years cannot be underestimated. Three times in history, Amazon's share price has fallen by more than 50%. The first was from December 1999 to October 2001, when it lost 95% of its market capitalization. During that time, the initial hypothetical $1,000 investment would have fallen from a high of $54,433 to $3,045, a loss of $51,388.</p><p>This is why it is not simple to say that being able to buy and hold a long-term winner. Perhaps you do know that \"Amazon is going to change the world,\" but even that won't make investing any easier.</p><p>Another revolutionary company, Netflix, has a compound yield of 38% since it went public in May 2002. But achieving this gain is also almost beyond the investment discipline one can afford. Netflix's share price has fallen by more than 50% four times, and it fell by more than 82% between July 2011 and September 2012. This amounts to an initial investment of $1,000 rising to $36,792 and then shrinking to $6,629. Will investors really be able to live with their initial investment pullback/retracement more than thirty times? Especially the 500% gain disappeared in just 14 months!</p><p>Google is the youngest of the three, with a compounded annual rate of return of 25% since going public in 2004. He offers investors a better investment experience than holding Amazon or Netflix. Google's share price has fallen more than 50% only once, when it fell 65% between November 2007 and November 2008. A lot of investors couldn't stand this period when his stock price saw a sharp pullback/retracement. During these 264 days, Google's turnover reached $845 billion, while Google's average market value at that time was less than $153 billion. That said, shares were changed hands 5.5 times during that time, which cost many investors the opportunity to earn 515% returns over the next eight years.</p><p>Charlie Munger has never been interested in investing in companies such as Amazon, Netflix and Google. But the companies he has invested in for a long time that have allowed him to earn huge investment returns have also seen huge pullback/retracement in a short period of time. Munger,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">Berkshire</a>Vice Chairman of Hathaway, known for being a longtime partner of Warren Buffett. His intelligent and philosophical quotes are collectively called Mungerism.<b><i>He likes to think from multiple perspectives with different ways of thinking, and one of his famous quotes is \"If you know where I will die, then I will never go to that place\". \"People count too much and think too little,\" he said at Berkshire Hathaway's 2002 shareholder meeting.</i></b></p><p>One thing that separates Munger from most of us mediocre people is that he will never be drawn to investments outside his circle of competence. He once said \"We have three baskets, which are in, out, and too hard\". Investors should all follow his advice \"If the investment target is too difficult to analyze, we turn to other investment targets. Is there anything simpler than that?\".</p><p>Today, we have a lot of new products in the market that serve investors, and these products are like those purple and green fishing baits: I think the reason why our investment management is in trouble is as revealed by the following conversation I had with the tackle boss. I asked him, \"My God, these purple and green baits! Do fish really get hooked for this?\", and he said, \"Sir, I don't sell fish\".</p><p>In 1948, Munger graduated from Harvard Law School and followed in his father's footsteps to successfully carve out a career in law. In the early years of Munger's investing career, he earned his first million dollars by investing in real estate projects. His investing enthusiasm was ignited in 1959, the year Ed Davis introduced him to Buffett as his first investors. Buffett was surprised that he easily got $100,000 from Ed Davis, because Davis didn't seem to pay much attention to Buffett's investment strategy. The reason for this is that Buffett resembles Charlie Munger, another investor Davis wholeheartedly trusts. The two of them were so similar that Davis once filled out Munger's name on a check to Buffett.</p><p>Munger and Buffett hit it off. After years of communication, learning, and sharing with Buffett, Munger and other partners founded a law firm in 1962 (Munger, Tolles & Olson; Charlie left in 1965), and he also founded a hedge fund firm (Wheeler, Munger & Company).</p><p>Munger's investment performance is remarkable. From 1962 to 1969, the fund returned an incredible 37.1% per annum before rates. Especially when you look at the market environment at that time, this achievement is even more commendable. In these eight years, picking stocks has not been a simple task. In fact, the S&P 500, including Dividend, has only gained 6.6% in the same time. For the entire 14 years of the fund's existence, Munger's average annual return was 24%, with a compound rate of return of 19.82%, much higher than the index, and the S&P 500 (including Dividend) compounded rate of return was only 5.2% during the same period. Munger's limited partners will be profitable if they can persist with Munger, but this is not as easy as holding Amazon all the time.</p><p>One of the best lessons investors can learn from past history is that there are no good times without bad times. A long-term investment often contains large losses in short-term stages. If you can't accept short-term losses, it will be hard for you to reap long-term market returns. Munger said:</p><p><b><i>If you can't take two, three or more market declines of more than 50% in a century in stride, you are not a good investor, and you can only earn relatively mediocre investment returns compared to investors who can rationally handle market volatility</i></b>。</p><p>Warren Buffett once said of Munger: \"He is willing to accept greater ups and downs in performance. He happens to be a person with a concentrated psychological structure\". Of course, Munger is not only so simple as focus, his focus is based on diverse thinking at a higher level. At the end of 1974, 61% of its funds were invested in blue-chip printing companies. In that worst bear market since the Great Depression, this company inflicted serious damage on Munger's portfolio. The blue-chip printing company's sales exceeded $124 million that year. But it soon began to decline, with sales plummeting to $9 million by 1982 and only $25,000 by 2006. \"Considering the initial business of Blue Chip Printing Company,\" I predicted that its sales would drop from $120 million to less than $100,000, so I predicted from the beginning that its business alone would almost be a failure business \"\".</p><p>However, Blue Chip Printing Company, as an important asset of fund investment, later provided a large amount of funds for the acquisition of See's Candy, Buffalo Evening News and Wesco Financial Company, and was incorporated into Berkshire Hathaway in 1983.</p><p>Munger lost 31.9% in 1973 (compared to-13.1% for the Dow Jones Industrial) and 31.5% in 1974 (compared to-23.1% for the Dow). Munger said, \"We were crushed by the market between 1973 and 1974, not because of truly undervalued value, but market value because our publicly traded securities had to trade at less than half of their true value.\" It was a tough experience — 1973 to 1974 was a very unpleasant experience. \"Munger was not alone, and it was a tough process for many great investors. Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway fell from $80 in December 1972 to $40 in December 1974. The bear market of 1973 to 1974, the S&P 500, fell 50% (the Dow Jones Industrials fell 46.6%, straight back to 1958 levels).</p><p><b><i>The $1,000 invested with Charlie Munger from January 1, 1973 would become $467 by January 1, 1975. Even as the fund rose 73.2% in 1975, Munger lost its biggest investor, frustrating him and leading him to the decision to liquidate the fund.</i></b>This fund has earned a compounded return of 24.3% before deductions throughout its lifetime even through a brutal period of history from 1973 to 1974.</p><p>It's not just those star stocks that will drop more than 50%. Those indexes with long-term compound growth are also likely to have a pullback/retracement at one point. The Dow has grown 26,400% since 1914, which contains nine pullback/retracement over 30%. The Dow fell more than 90% during the Great Depression and did not return to that high of 1929 until 1955. The Dow Jones index, a blue-chip index, experienced two major pullback/retracement in the first decade of the twenty-first century (a 38% decline during the tech bubble and a 54% decline during the financial crisis).</p><p>For most ordinary investors like you and me, if we are looking for a high return on our investment, huge losses are doomed to be a part of it, whether the investment cycle is a few years or a lifetime. Munger once said \"we are passionate about keeping it simple\". You can simplify everything you want, but it won't keep you away from losing money. Even portfolios with 50/50 equity and bond allocations lost 25% during the financial crisis.</p><p><b><i>There are several ways to deal with losses. The first is that the loss is absolute, i.e. the loss of your investment.</i></b>In Munger's case, he rarely had absolute losses. During his time running his hedge fund, he experienced a 53% decline, and his Berkshire Hathaway stock has fallen more than 20% on six occasions. For the unfamiliar, pullback/retracement is the downside from the high. In other words, it happened six times that Berkshire Hathaway fell more than 20% after hitting an all-time high.</p><p><b><i>The second type of loss is relative, your opportunity cost.</i></b>In the late nineties, when internet stocks took the country by storm, Berkshire didn't invest in them. It also took their toll. From June 1998 to March 2000, Berkshire fell 49%. What's more painful, however, is that Internet stocks continue to soar. The Nasdaq 100 is up 270% over the same period! In a 1999 Berkshire Hathaway letter to shareholders, Warren Buffett wrote that \"relative returns are our concern, and during the same period, bad relative returns have resulted in unsatisfactory absolute returns\".</p><p>Whether you invest in stocks or indexes, bad relative returns are a problem to face in investing. In the five-year dot-com bubble, Berkshire Hathaway's earnings performance lagged the S&P 500 by 117%! At the time, many people questioned whether Munger and Buffett were out of touch with<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600628\">New World</a>。</p><p>The reason why Munger's wealth has continued to compound over the past 55 years is, in his own words:<i><b>Warren and I are not geniuses. We can't play chess or become piano players blindfolded. But our achievements are excellent because we are dominant in temperament, which is enough to compensate for our lack of IQ.</b></i></p><p>You have to be able to take the loss in stride. The right time to sell is not after the stock price has fallen. If you invest this way, you may be doomed to not achieve good long-term returns. Learn from history and don't try to avoid losses. Losses are inevitable. Instead, focus on ensuring that you don't put yourself in a situation where you will be forced to sell. If you know that stocks have fallen by more than 50% at one time, which will undoubtedly happen again in the future, make sure you can face and take on such situations in the future.</p><p>How to do it? Here's an example. Let's say your portfolio is worth $100,000 and you know you can't stand a loss of more than $30,000. Assuming that if the value of the stock is reduced in half and the bond will retain its value (which is definitely an assumption, there is no guarantee), then don't allocate more than 60% of the equity assets. That way even if those 60% of assets fall by half, you should be okay.</p><p></body></html></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Munger: How to face the huge pullback/retracement in investing?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMunger: How to face the huge pullback/retracement in investing?\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/67\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/9fe5d79ff06041f8a434a6ad9836f2e6);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">点拾投资 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2022-02-21 14:12</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><html><head></head><body><b>Introduction:</b>During this period, the market has seen a relatively big adjustment, which also led to a pullback/retracement in many people's investment portfolios. So how do investment gurus face pullback/retracement? Today, I would like to share an article on how Charlie Munger faced pullback/retracement translated by my friend and excellent fund manager Huang Yun in 2019. Even today, it is particularly appropriate. This also shows from the side that no matter how good the company is, there is a huge pullback/retracement every few years.<b>Foreword:</b></p><p>The content of this chapter describes a slightly cruel real market, that is, both a long-term upward market and a long-term upward company will inevitably experience large downward fluctuations, which is very similar to the market environment we are in at present. How to face market losses calmly is quite difficult for any investor, because we have to consider not only the volatility of the investment portfolio, but also the feelings of fund holders. The demands of these two aspects are also contradictory in some extremely downward market environments. Maybe we as investors have the ability to bear market losses, but we may lose our investors as a result. As a great investment mentor, Munger's personal experience gives us a good lesson on how to really have patience, discipline, and the ability to not go crazy even when suffering losses and adversity.</p><p><b>Learn to bear losses</b></p><p><i><b>You need to have patience, discipline and the ability not to go crazy even in the face of loss and adversity.</b></i></p><p><i><b>-Charlie Munger, 2005</b></i></p><p>Without a doubt,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NFLX\">Netflix</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon</a>And<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">Google</a>Are three of the most successful companies in the past decade. Their products have profoundly changed the way we live, and if their shareholders can stick to their shares for a long time, these shareholders will also receive huge investment returns. However, one of the oldest financial rules is that returns are always accompanied by risks. If you want to make a huge return on your investment, you are also doomed to take the risks that come with it.</p><p>Since its initial listing in 1997, Amazon's stock price has risen as much as 38,600%, equivalent to a compound annual rate of return of 35.5%. This means that an initial investment of $1,000 will become $387,000 by today. But in reality, the difficulty of actually turning that $1,000 into $387,000 over the past 20 years cannot be underestimated. Three times in history, Amazon's share price has fallen by more than 50%. The first was from December 1999 to October 2001, when it lost 95% of its market capitalization. During that time, the initial hypothetical $1,000 investment would have fallen from a high of $54,433 to $3,045, a loss of $51,388.</p><p>This is why it is not simple to say that being able to buy and hold a long-term winner. Perhaps you do know that \"Amazon is going to change the world,\" but even that won't make investing any easier.</p><p>Another revolutionary company, Netflix, has a compound yield of 38% since it went public in May 2002. But achieving this gain is also almost beyond the investment discipline one can afford. Netflix's share price has fallen by more than 50% four times, and it fell by more than 82% between July 2011 and September 2012. This amounts to an initial investment of $1,000 rising to $36,792 and then shrinking to $6,629. Will investors really be able to live with their initial investment pullback/retracement more than thirty times? Especially the 500% gain disappeared in just 14 months!</p><p>Google is the youngest of the three, with a compounded annual rate of return of 25% since going public in 2004. He offers investors a better investment experience than holding Amazon or Netflix. Google's share price has fallen more than 50% only once, when it fell 65% between November 2007 and November 2008. A lot of investors couldn't stand this period when his stock price saw a sharp pullback/retracement. During these 264 days, Google's turnover reached $845 billion, while Google's average market value at that time was less than $153 billion. That said, shares were changed hands 5.5 times during that time, which cost many investors the opportunity to earn 515% returns over the next eight years.</p><p>Charlie Munger has never been interested in investing in companies such as Amazon, Netflix and Google. But the companies he has invested in for a long time that have allowed him to earn huge investment returns have also seen huge pullback/retracement in a short period of time. Munger,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">Berkshire</a>Vice Chairman of Hathaway, known for being a longtime partner of Warren Buffett. His intelligent and philosophical quotes are collectively called Mungerism.<b><i>He likes to think from multiple perspectives with different ways of thinking, and one of his famous quotes is \"If you know where I will die, then I will never go to that place\". \"People count too much and think too little,\" he said at Berkshire Hathaway's 2002 shareholder meeting.</i></b></p><p>One thing that separates Munger from most of us mediocre people is that he will never be drawn to investments outside his circle of competence. He once said \"We have three baskets, which are in, out, and too hard\". Investors should all follow his advice \"If the investment target is too difficult to analyze, we turn to other investment targets. Is there anything simpler than that?\".</p><p>Today, we have a lot of new products in the market that serve investors, and these products are like those purple and green fishing baits: I think the reason why our investment management is in trouble is as revealed by the following conversation I had with the tackle boss. I asked him, \"My God, these purple and green baits! Do fish really get hooked for this?\", and he said, \"Sir, I don't sell fish\".</p><p>In 1948, Munger graduated from Harvard Law School and followed in his father's footsteps to successfully carve out a career in law. In the early years of Munger's investing career, he earned his first million dollars by investing in real estate projects. His investing enthusiasm was ignited in 1959, the year Ed Davis introduced him to Buffett as his first investors. Buffett was surprised that he easily got $100,000 from Ed Davis, because Davis didn't seem to pay much attention to Buffett's investment strategy. The reason for this is that Buffett resembles Charlie Munger, another investor Davis wholeheartedly trusts. The two of them were so similar that Davis once filled out Munger's name on a check to Buffett.</p><p>Munger and Buffett hit it off. After years of communication, learning, and sharing with Buffett, Munger and other partners founded a law firm in 1962 (Munger, Tolles & Olson; Charlie left in 1965), and he also founded a hedge fund firm (Wheeler, Munger & Company).</p><p>Munger's investment performance is remarkable. From 1962 to 1969, the fund returned an incredible 37.1% per annum before rates. Especially when you look at the market environment at that time, this achievement is even more commendable. In these eight years, picking stocks has not been a simple task. In fact, the S&P 500, including Dividend, has only gained 6.6% in the same time. For the entire 14 years of the fund's existence, Munger's average annual return was 24%, with a compound rate of return of 19.82%, much higher than the index, and the S&P 500 (including Dividend) compounded rate of return was only 5.2% during the same period. Munger's limited partners will be profitable if they can persist with Munger, but this is not as easy as holding Amazon all the time.</p><p>One of the best lessons investors can learn from past history is that there are no good times without bad times. A long-term investment often contains large losses in short-term stages. If you can't accept short-term losses, it will be hard for you to reap long-term market returns. Munger said:</p><p><b><i>If you can't take two, three or more market declines of more than 50% in a century in stride, you are not a good investor, and you can only earn relatively mediocre investment returns compared to investors who can rationally handle market volatility</i></b>。</p><p>Warren Buffett once said of Munger: \"He is willing to accept greater ups and downs in performance. He happens to be a person with a concentrated psychological structure\". Of course, Munger is not only so simple as focus, his focus is based on diverse thinking at a higher level. At the end of 1974, 61% of its funds were invested in blue-chip printing companies. In that worst bear market since the Great Depression, this company inflicted serious damage on Munger's portfolio. The blue-chip printing company's sales exceeded $124 million that year. But it soon began to decline, with sales plummeting to $9 million by 1982 and only $25,000 by 2006. \"Considering the initial business of Blue Chip Printing Company,\" I predicted that its sales would drop from $120 million to less than $100,000, so I predicted from the beginning that its business alone would almost be a failure business \"\".</p><p>However, Blue Chip Printing Company, as an important asset of fund investment, later provided a large amount of funds for the acquisition of See's Candy, Buffalo Evening News and Wesco Financial Company, and was incorporated into Berkshire Hathaway in 1983.</p><p>Munger lost 31.9% in 1973 (compared to-13.1% for the Dow Jones Industrial) and 31.5% in 1974 (compared to-23.1% for the Dow). Munger said, \"We were crushed by the market between 1973 and 1974, not because of truly undervalued value, but market value because our publicly traded securities had to trade at less than half of their true value.\" It was a tough experience — 1973 to 1974 was a very unpleasant experience. \"Munger was not alone, and it was a tough process for many great investors. Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway fell from $80 in December 1972 to $40 in December 1974. The bear market of 1973 to 1974, the S&P 500, fell 50% (the Dow Jones Industrials fell 46.6%, straight back to 1958 levels).</p><p><b><i>The $1,000 invested with Charlie Munger from January 1, 1973 would become $467 by January 1, 1975. Even as the fund rose 73.2% in 1975, Munger lost its biggest investor, frustrating him and leading him to the decision to liquidate the fund.</i></b>This fund has earned a compounded return of 24.3% before deductions throughout its lifetime even through a brutal period of history from 1973 to 1974.</p><p>It's not just those star stocks that will drop more than 50%. Those indexes with long-term compound growth are also likely to have a pullback/retracement at one point. The Dow has grown 26,400% since 1914, which contains nine pullback/retracement over 30%. The Dow fell more than 90% during the Great Depression and did not return to that high of 1929 until 1955. The Dow Jones index, a blue-chip index, experienced two major pullback/retracement in the first decade of the twenty-first century (a 38% decline during the tech bubble and a 54% decline during the financial crisis).</p><p>For most ordinary investors like you and me, if we are looking for a high return on our investment, huge losses are doomed to be a part of it, whether the investment cycle is a few years or a lifetime. Munger once said \"we are passionate about keeping it simple\". You can simplify everything you want, but it won't keep you away from losing money. Even portfolios with 50/50 equity and bond allocations lost 25% during the financial crisis.</p><p><b><i>There are several ways to deal with losses. The first is that the loss is absolute, i.e. the loss of your investment.</i></b>In Munger's case, he rarely had absolute losses. During his time running his hedge fund, he experienced a 53% decline, and his Berkshire Hathaway stock has fallen more than 20% on six occasions. For the unfamiliar, pullback/retracement is the downside from the high. In other words, it happened six times that Berkshire Hathaway fell more than 20% after hitting an all-time high.</p><p><b><i>The second type of loss is relative, your opportunity cost.</i></b>In the late nineties, when internet stocks took the country by storm, Berkshire didn't invest in them. It also took their toll. From June 1998 to March 2000, Berkshire fell 49%. What's more painful, however, is that Internet stocks continue to soar. The Nasdaq 100 is up 270% over the same period! In a 1999 Berkshire Hathaway letter to shareholders, Warren Buffett wrote that \"relative returns are our concern, and during the same period, bad relative returns have resulted in unsatisfactory absolute returns\".</p><p>Whether you invest in stocks or indexes, bad relative returns are a problem to face in investing. In the five-year dot-com bubble, Berkshire Hathaway's earnings performance lagged the S&P 500 by 117%! At the time, many people questioned whether Munger and Buffett were out of touch with<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600628\">New World</a>。</p><p>The reason why Munger's wealth has continued to compound over the past 55 years is, in his own words:<i><b>Warren and I are not geniuses. We can't play chess or become piano players blindfolded. But our achievements are excellent because we are dominant in temperament, which is enough to compensate for our lack of IQ.</b></i></p><p>You have to be able to take the loss in stride. The right time to sell is not after the stock price has fallen. If you invest this way, you may be doomed to not achieve good long-term returns. Learn from history and don't try to avoid losses. Losses are inevitable. Instead, focus on ensuring that you don't put yourself in a situation where you will be forced to sell. If you know that stocks have fallen by more than 50% at one time, which will undoubtedly happen again in the future, make sure you can face and take on such situations in the future.</p><p>How to do it? Here's an example. Let's say your portfolio is worth $100,000 and you know you can't stand a loss of more than $30,000. Assuming that if the value of the stock is reduced in half and the bond will retain its value (which is definitely an assumption, there is no guarantee), then don't allocate more than 60% of the equity assets. That way even if those 60% of assets fall by half, you should be 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387,000。 但实际上在过去20年中，要真的将这1000美金变为387,000美元的难度不容小觑。历史上，亚马逊的股价曾有三次跌幅超过50%。第一次是从1999年12月到2001年10月，它跌去了95％的市值。在那段时间内，初始假设的1,000美元投资将会从54,433美元的高位下跌至3,045美元，损失51,388美元。这也就是为什么会说能够买入并持有一个长期的赢家其实并不简单。也许你确实知道“亚马逊将会改变世界”，但即便如此，也不会使投资变得更加容易。另一家革命性的公司奈飞，自2002年5月上市以来的复合收益率为38％。但实现这个收益也几乎超出了人所能承受的投资纪律。奈飞的股价曾有四次跌幅超过50%，其在2011年7月至2012年9月间跌幅超过82%。这相当于初始投资的1,000美元涨到36,792美元，然后萎缩到6,629美元。投资者真的能够忍受他们的初始投资回撤三十多次吗？特别是500%收益在短短14个月内烟消云散！谷歌是这三家公司中最年轻的公司，自2004年上市以来的年复合收益率为25％。他为投资者提供了一个比持有亚马逊或Netflix更好的投资体验。 谷歌的股价只有一次跌幅超过50%，就是在2007年11月至2008年11月间跌幅达到65%。当他的股价大幅回撤时，很多投资都无法忍受这段时期。在这264天内，谷歌的换手量达到8450亿美金，而当时谷歌的平均市值不到1530亿美金。也就是说，这段时间内股票被换手了5.5次，这使很多投资者失去了未来八年能够获得515%回报的机会。查理芒格从来没有对投资亚马逊、奈飞、谷歌这类公司感过兴趣。但他长期投资过的那些让他获得巨大投资收益的公司也曾在短时期内出现过巨大的回撤。芒格，伯克希尔哈撒韦公司的副董事长，以作为沃伦巴菲特的长期合作伙伴而闻名。他那些富有智慧和哲理的名言被统称为芒格主义。他喜欢用不同的思维方式从多个角度思考问题，他的名言之一是“如果知道我会死在哪里，那我将永远不去那个地方”。在2002年伯克希尔哈撒韦股东大会上他说“人们算得太多、想得太少”。将芒格和我们大部分平庸的人区分开的一点是他永远不会被他能力圈外的投资所吸引。他曾经说过“我们有三个篮子，分别是进入、退出、太难” 。投资者都应该遵循他的建议“如果投资标的太难分析，我们就转向其他的投资标的。还有比这更简单的事情吗？” 。今天，我们的市场上涌现出很多为投资者服务的新产品，这些产品就像那些紫色和绿色的鱼饵：我想我们的投资管理之所以陷入窘境的原因就像下面这个我和渔具老板的对话所揭示的道理那样。我问他：“我的天，这些紫的和绿的鱼饵！鱼真的会因此而上钩吗？”，他说：“先生，我不卖鱼” 。1948年，芒格毕业于哈佛大学法学院，并追随其父亲的脚步成功开拓了法律事业。在芒格的早期投资生涯中，他通过投资地产项目获得了他的第一个百万美元。1959年他的投资热情被彻底点燃，这一年埃德戴维斯（Ed Davis）作为巴菲特的第一批投资者将他介绍给了巴菲特。巴菲特惊讶于他很轻松的获得了埃德戴维斯的10万美金，因为戴维斯似乎并没有太在意巴菲特的投资策略。这其中的原因在于巴菲特很像戴维斯全心全意信任的另一位投资人查理芒格。他们两人如此之像以至于戴维斯曾经在给巴菲特的支票上填了芒格的名字。芒格和巴菲特一见如故。 在和巴菲特经过多年的沟通、相互学习和分享后，芒格在1962年和其他合伙人创办了一家律师事务所（Munger，Tolles＆Olson; 查理在1965年离开），同时他也创立了一个对冲基金公司（Wheeler，Munger＆Company）。芒格的投资业绩斐然。从1962年到1969年，该基金扣除费率之前的年均回报率达到令人难以置信的37.1％。尤其是当你结合当时的市场环境看的话，这个成绩更是显的难能可贵。在这八年中，挑选股票并不是件简单的事情。 事实上，标准普尔500指数（含股息）在同一时间内只上涨了6.6％。 在整个基金存续的14年内，芒格年均回报率为24％，复合收益率为19.82％，远高于指数，同期标准普尔500指数（含股息）复合收益率仅为5.2％。 芒格的有限合伙人如果能和芒格一道坚持下来也将收益丰厚，然而这件事就像一直坚持持有亚马逊公司一样并不那么容易。投资者从过往历史中可以学到的最好一条经验就是没有坏时光就没有好时光。在一段长期的投资中往往蕴含着短期阶段性的大幅损失。如果你不能接受短期的损失，那你很难收获长期的市场回报。芒格说过：如果你对于在一个世纪内发生两三次或者更多次市场超过50%下跌不能泰然处之，你就不适合做投资，并且和那些具有能理性处理市场波动的投资者相比也只能获得相对平庸的投资收益。沃伦巴菲特曾这样评价芒格：“他愿意接受业绩出现更大的起伏，他恰好是一位心理结构倾向集中的人”。当然芒格不仅是专注这么简单，他的专注是建立在更高层面上的多元化思考。1974年底，其61％的资金投资于蓝筹印花公司。在那个自大萧条以来最糟糕的熊市里，这个公司给芒格的投资组合带来了严重的损害。 蓝筹印花公司的销售额在当年超过了1.24亿美金。但是很快就开始减少，到1982年，销售额锐减至900万美元，到2006年仅为2.5万美金。 “考虑到蓝筹印花公司的初始业务，“我预测到其销售额将从1.2亿美金降到不足10万美金，所以我从开始就预测到了其业务单独看几乎就是一个会失败的业务””。然而蓝筹印花公司作为基金投资的重要的资产，在之后为收购喜诗糖果、布法罗晚报和韦斯科金融公司等提供了大量的资金，并于1983年被纳入伯克希尔哈撒韦公司旗下。芒格在1973年损失了31.9％（相比之下，道琼斯工业指数为-13.1％），在1974年损失了31.5％（相比之下道琼斯指数为-23.1％）。 芒格说：“我们在1973年到1974年间被市场碾压了，并不是因为被真实低估的价值，而是市场价值，因为我们的公开交易证券不得不在低于他们真正价值的一半价格下交易。 “这是一段艰难的经历 -- 1973年至1974年是一个非常不愉快的经历。”芒格并不孤单，对许多伟大的投资者来说，这都是一个很艰难的过程。巴菲特的伯克希尔哈撒韦公司从1972年12月的80美元跌至1974年12月的40美元。1973年至1974年的熊市标准普尔500指数下跌50％（道琼斯工业指数下跌46.6％，直接回到1958年的水平）。与查理芒格一起从1973年1月1日开始投资的1,000美元到1975年1月1日将变为467美元。即使该基金在1975年上涨了73.2%，但芒格还是失去了其最大的投资人，这让他感到沮丧，并使他做出了清算基金的决定。这只基金在其整个生命周期即使经历了从1973年到1974年的残酷历史时期也获得了扣费前24.3%的复合收益率。不仅仅是那些明星股票会跌幅超过50%。那些长期复合增长的指数在某一个点上也都可能会发生回撤。道琼斯指数自1914年以来增长了26400%，其中包含了9次超过30%的回撤。在大萧条期间道指跌幅超过90%，直到1955年才回到1929年的那个高点。道琼斯指数作为蓝筹股指数在二十一世纪的第一个十年内就发生过两次大幅回撤（科技泡沫破灭期跌幅38%，金融危机期间跌幅54%）。对于像你我这样大多数普通的投资者而言，如果我们要寻求高额的投资回报，那么巨大亏损注定也是其中的一个部分，无论投资周期是几年还是一生。芒格曾经说过“我们热衷于保持简单” 。你可以简化你想要的一切，但这并不会使你远离亏损。即使是50/50的股票和债券配置的投资组合在金融危机期间也损失了25%。有几种方法来处理损失。第一是损失是绝对的，即你的投资损失。在芒格的例子里，他很少有绝对损失。在他管理他的对冲基金期间，他经历过53%的下跌，他持有的伯克希尔哈撒韦公司的股票有过6次跌幅超过20%。对于不熟悉的人来说，回撤就是从高点开始的下行。换句话说，伯克希尔哈撒韦创历史新高后下跌超过20%的情况发生了6次。第二种类型的损失是相对的，即你的机会成本。 在九十年代末期，当互联网股票席卷全国时，伯克希尔并没有对其进行投资。这也让他们付出了代价。 从1998年6月到2000年3月，伯克希尔下跌了49%。 然而更痛苦的是，互联网股票在持续飙升。同期纳斯达克100指数上涨了270％！ 在1999年伯克希尔哈撒韦致股东的信中，沃伦巴菲特写道“相对收益是我们关心的问题，在同期，不好的相对收益造成了并不令人满意的绝对收益”。无论你是投资股票还是指数，不好的相对收益都是投资中要面对的一个问题。在五年的互联网泡沫中，伯克希尔哈撒韦公司的收益表现落后于标准普尔500指数117％！当时很多人质疑芒格和巴菲特是否脱节与新世界。芒格的财富之所以能够在过去55年内持续复合增长的原因，用他自己的话说就是：沃伦和我并非奇才。我们不能蒙上眼睛下棋或成为钢琴演奏家。但我们的成绩斐然，因为我们在性情上占优势，这足以弥补我们在智商上的不足 。你必须能对损失泰然处之。合适的卖时点并不是在股价已经下跌之后。如果你这样投资，你可能就注定了不会取得好的长期回报。 从历史中学习，不要试图避免损失。 损失是不可避免的。相反，应该专注于确保没有把自己会被迫卖出的境地。如果你知道股票曾经跌幅超过50%，这种情况无疑将来还会发生，请确保你未来能面对和承担这样的情况。如何做？这里有个例子。假设你的投资组合价值10万美元并且你知道你不能忍受超过3万美元的损失。假设如果股票价值减少一半而债券将保留价值（这绝对是一个假设，没有任何保证），那就不要配置超过60%的股票资产。那样即使这60%的资产下跌一半，你也应该还好。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3922,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}