Why inflation makes holding bonds for the long run riskier than owning stocks

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Why inflation makes holding bonds for the long run riskier than owning stocks

MarketWatch2021-03-15

You’d have to hold U.S. Treasury bonds for 57 years to not lose to inflation How long is the long term in the bond market? Would you believe 57 years? That’s how long you must be prepared to own U.S. ...

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TopGainerz
·2021-03-15
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ahswee
·2021-03-15
Death of fixed income, for now at least.
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·2021-03-15
Bonds lousy
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·2021-03-15
True
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Instead of 57 years, the comparable “long term” for U.S. stocks is 16 years. (See chart, below.) That’s the longest period since 1900 in which U.S. equities produced a negative real return. From the point of view of the long-term investor, stocks therefore appear to be far less risky.\n\nThere is one sense in which government bonds are less risky than stocks. Assuming the federal government doesn’t default, then U.S. government bonds are undoubtedly safer than stocks. But, as the Credit Suisse Yearbook’s authors point out, “there is a price to be paid” for that safety. “In terms of inflation-adjusted returns, there is a high chance of disappointment.”\nAt a minimum, the Yearbook encourages us to focus on risk from many different angles. 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