Apple: Don't Buy A Falling Knife

Seekingalpha2023-01-06

SummaryApple Inc.’s shares have dropped into a new down-leg lately.Weakening consumer demand and soaring COVID-19 infection could drive Apple’s shares to further lows.EPS and revenue estimate trends ...

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May168
·2023-01-07
rally soon
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JCai
·2023-01-07
Ok
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PhilipGoh
·2023-01-07
[Cry]
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来人
·2023-01-06
Ok
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Sky Tgr
·2023-01-06
"I'm free... Free falling!" (pls like the song) [Happy] [Facepalm]
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Henryee18
·2023-01-06
Do your own DD
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chaicka
·2023-01-06
Risk Off, Move Back to Pre-Pandemic PE Norm. Right now still high...room to drop further.
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kong1509
·2023-01-06
Ok
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henglaw
·2023-01-06
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MengKeng
·2023-01-06
wait for the apple to fall lower, hehe
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Thalos
·2023-01-06
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Right now still high...room to drop further.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9959276425","repostId":1103843631,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9959276954,"gmtCreate":1673014584279,"gmtModify":1676538769770,"author":{"id":"4112855949003692","authorId":"4112855949003692","name":"kong1509","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5c7779ca51cd488037d326183dfd5994","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4112855949003692","authorIdStr":"4112855949003692"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9959276954","repostId":1103843631,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9959278291,"gmtCreate":1673014531013,"gmtModify":1676538769754,"author":{"id":"4094906971334360","authorId":"4094906971334360","name":"henglaw","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/7af102d7792625d4e5687447a943269e","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4094906971334360","authorIdStr":"4094906971334360"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9959278291","repostId":1103843631,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9959219197,"gmtCreate":1672994235520,"gmtModify":1676538767348,"author":{"id":"3582668988155006","authorId":"3582668988155006","name":"MengKeng","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/daf999525f61ba41d3c13b0ed728eb77","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3582668988155006","authorIdStr":"3582668988155006"},"htmlText":"wait for the apple to fall lower, hehe","listText":"wait for the apple to fall lower, hehe","text":"wait for the apple to fall lower, hehe","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9959219197","repostId":1103843631,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9959234895,"gmtCreate":1672993222218,"gmtModify":1676538767223,"author":{"id":"4101955883486630","authorId":"4101955883486630","name":"Thalos","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/55ba87139db7cd8dd783879dbd6ed4c5","vip":1,"crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4101955883486630","authorIdStr":"4101955883486630"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9959234895","repostId":1103843631,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"}],"hasMoreComments":true,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":112,"commentSize":11,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false}}