To Beat Tesla, Volkswagen Bets on Making Its Own EV Batteries

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To Beat Tesla, Volkswagen Bets on Making Its Own EV Batteries

The Wall Street Journal2021-08-09

VW’s foray into battery production shows the difficulties incumbent auto makers face as they try to make money in electric vehicles. SALZGITTER, Germany—Many of the world’s traditional auto makers are...

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Frosty4ever
·2021-08-11
$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ also won't be standing still. They should be developing next gen battery. Battery efficiency is also important. Must have good software engineers. Again TSLA is ahead. What about FSD?
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Savana
·2021-08-10
[Cool]
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NickHoHo
·2021-08-09
Cools
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BruceLyy
·2021-08-09
Please like, thank you
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- Hannibal2019:
  no thanks haha
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OJC
·2021-08-09
Hahahaha
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Shadotaiger
·2021-08-09
ok
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Khoo12
·2021-08-09
Woh
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- Shadotaiger:
  nice
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kevinlaisq
·2021-08-09
Pls like and comment
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woonws
·2021-08-09
At least the German education system could help them with finding talent needed
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Keez
·2021-08-09
Ok lai
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bostonxsgp
·2021-08-09
Nice
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  Yup
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MoccaTB
·2021-08-09
Ok
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Zien
·2021-08-09
Nice
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Jimmyboy
·2021-08-09
Please like and comment.
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xygn
·2021-08-09
Good job!
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B1B2
·2021-08-09
The whole is moving towards EV. Everyone will ?
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Tchwee56
·2021-08-09
So many EV, do you think it can make it?
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