Day Traders as ‘Dumb Money’? The Pros Are Now Paying Attention

The Wall Street Journal2022-01-17

Last year, amateur investors took financial markets by storm. This year, Wall Street professionals are watching them closely.Fund managers who might have once derided small-time day traders as “dumb ...

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chinchillx
·2022-01-17
😆😆😆🤣🤣🥳🥳 dumb money some more... we squeeze u to cover if not for dark pools
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CTSM
·2022-01-17
“… make sure you don’t get hit by a bus.” I’m pretty sure that’s everyone job, not just professionals. [LOL]
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CTSM
·2022-01-17
“… make sure you don’t get hit by a bus.” [LOL]
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Catmling
·2022-01-17
We need to keep the secret a secret lol
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Susan88888
·2022-01-17
ok
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JLKang
·2022-01-17
It's time wall street learn
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Bspn
·2022-01-17
Ok
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CIG
·2022-01-17
知己知彼百戰百勝
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Baby Step 4
·2022-01-17
Wah
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Toby_Chua
·2022-01-17
Power of social media n internet to fan up demand
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CCLaunty
·2022-01-17
Thanks for sharing
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koolgal
·2022-01-17
After Wall Street Bets, the Big Boys are more wary of losing money and checking the humble small traders more regularly through social media! The small traders are now a force to be reckoned with!
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Chaishen
·2022-01-17
Dump n dumb[Miser]
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currylow
·2022-01-17
Upp
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Ac85
·2022-01-17
Thanks sharing
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Goodytrader
·2022-01-17
Cannot be ignored
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benjam
·2022-01-17
something something apes stronk
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Nagnaix
·2022-01-17
Like please
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Stephanie58
·2022-01-17
Hi
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·2022-01-17
Hi
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