Nio Stock Still Has a Great Story and Valuation Issues

InvestorPlace2021-05-10

A big pullback leaves NIO stock cheaper, but perhaps not cheap enough. There are two figures that highlight the case for and againstNio(NYSE:NIO) stock. The bull case is strengthened by the fact that...

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sklow288
·2021-05-12
Well written..???
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Ahwei6868
·2021-05-11
Go nio
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KMK
·2021-05-11
Common NIO
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RodericK
·2021-05-10
A
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- POOP:
  A what
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fongj
·2021-05-10
Guess current price is based on not too far away potential.
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Brandon2207
·2021-05-10
Nio has lots of potential to go up even more !
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TriciaChang
·2021-05-10
Yaa
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  is it cheap enough?
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Luck93
·2021-05-10
Look up youtube on jp morgan analyst on Nio. Support lv at 36.13 and price could go up 38.3x ~ 38.6x. Still got buy signal. Long term wise will be bullish. Short term got to see market reaction.Like and comment
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Anonymously
·2021-05-10
Hi
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  Ok
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ChrisLiew
·2021-05-10
Great story, but has valuation issues?[呆住]
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<u>what</u>","text":"A <u>what</u>","html":"A <u>what</u>"}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":199062917,"gmtCreate":1620657457339,"gmtModify":1704346301914,"author":{"id":"3576237822910328","authorId":"3576237822910328","name":"fongj","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9ce49c725fb9db07e6d4fad9c0dc7eef","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3576237822910328","authorIdStr":"3576237822910328"},"htmlText":"Guess current price is based on not too far away potential.","listText":"Guess current price is based on not too far away potential.","text":"Guess current price is based on not too far away 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it cheap enough?","text":"is it cheap enough?","html":"is it cheap enough?"}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":190519085,"gmtCreate":1620632885647,"gmtModify":1704345850233,"author":{"id":"3580014056152274","authorId":"3580014056152274","name":"Luck93","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1ae7f0ce33ae6a51568df8a678abb93e","vip":1,"crmLevel":6,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3580014056152274","authorIdStr":"3580014056152274"},"htmlText":"Look up youtube on jp morgan analyst on Nio. 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Short term got to see market reaction.Like and comment","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/190519085","repostId":1118550439,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":190502751,"gmtCreate":1620629820373,"gmtModify":1704345816847,"author":{"id":"3583723254185783","authorId":"3583723254185783","name":"Anonymously","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5a4ee85ef8f809cc8ad443e9f4c1059e","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3583723254185783","authorIdStr":"3583723254185783"},"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/190502751","repostId":1118550439,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":4278748,"gmtCreate":1620631103019,"gmtModify":1680787888624,"authorId":3577131990335289,"author":{"id":3577131990335289,"idStr":"3577131990335289","authorId":3577131990335289,"name":"Saintrade","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0586ed865bb515fc4dd23fea4fa2590d","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":190502751,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Ok","text":"Ok","html":"Ok"}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":190501430,"gmtCreate":1620629433120,"gmtModify":1704345814087,"author":{"id":"3580393689769738","authorId":"3580393689769738","name":"ChrisLiew","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/35b3b9b772013ce79f9f4c5318d46fa7","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f84859c65fc2d7681e28f6b8e9b0535a","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3580393689769738","authorIdStr":"3580393689769738"},"htmlText":"Great story, but has valuation issues?[呆住]&nbsp;","listText":"Great story, but has valuation issues?[呆住]&nbsp;","text":"Great story, but has valuation issues?[呆住]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/190501430","repostId":1118550439,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":4278783,"gmtCreate":1620631793865,"gmtModify":1680787890280,"authorId":3582094048004898,"author":{"id":3582094048004898,"idStr":"3582094048004898","authorId":3582094048004898,"name":"idkwhatimdoi","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":190501430,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"hmmm","text":"hmmm","html":"hmmm"}],"langContent":"CN"}],"hasMoreComments":true,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":39,"commentSize":10,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false}}