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SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...

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Albert Teo
·2023-03-29
Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom
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VexMonster
·2023-03-29
It will drop again
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meta ultramafic
·2023-03-29
Tesla will keep growing any slowdown in stock price is only a buying opportunity so far 50% grouth since 2019 approx ? It's up to you do you really want to bet against Elon?
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- ClarenceNehemiah:
  Still a good time to buy TSLA and hold for long term.
  2023-03-29
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- CaesarHicks:
  Come on! Let's keep going Tesla.
  2023-03-29
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Wallstrtbets
·2023-03-29
I told u so.
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Musky
·2023-03-29
A shitty article. Guess he has to clocked time n so write this piece. In short he sees no upside n no downside ( as he dares not short it). So holding it is the best strategy as if recession didnt occur n if sale volumes surge, the stcok prices will ahoot
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acwl
·2023-03-29
Haha some of these comments.. do note that this is a purely fundemental perspective.. speaking from technicals Vs sentiments.. I wouldn't claim this as a biased article but sure enough nothing beats consumer sentiments
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- AndreaClarissa:
  There are some interseting comments here.
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- LeonaClemens:
  Consumer sentiments is really significant actually.
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AdelGYS
·2023-03-29
Noted
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leon leong
·2023-03-29
When ppl says drop it will up lol
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AlexHeng
·2023-03-29
Oil n energy prices are going up hence EV is still in demand. Tesla will continue to grow in the long run.
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JediGingerNinja
·2023-03-29
Im of the opinion that lowering its prices will ultimately prove to be genius let me explain... 1. The % of the global population that can now probably afford a tesla has increased exponentially. 2. the ability now for competition to compete at that price range will decrease if not evaporate into the abyss... I see this as strategic short term pain for an obvious long term domination which once achieved can then increase profits to a higher margin than if the premium producer stayed at premium prices! 😉
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- Jteokw:
  Good
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romanc9
·2023-03-29
Seem like alot of analysts giving negative information on Tesla. The more they have negative effect, the next moment the stock move north. Please give more.
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AlanChong
·2023-03-29
OMG!😱 Just read your post, I should sell it to cut lost. And also I need to use $ now... 😓
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xupper22
·2023-03-29
Ah yes the floor is made of floor. 🤦‍♂️
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Roy pv
·2023-03-29
Misguiding
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HAN8
·2023-03-29
Thks
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DelgohccTiger
·2023-03-29
Thanks for sharing your views.
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Sphere
·2023-03-29
Rubbish article
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Tommy turtle
·2023-03-29
Delusional take
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valentia
·2023-03-29
Yes it's overly priced
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BenGI
·2023-03-29
Roti Prata..
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I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941155502,"gmtCreate":1680075618107,"gmtModify":1680075622905,"author":{"id":"4094995573364440","authorId":"4094995573364440","name":"VexMonster","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4094995573364440","authorIdStr":"4094995573364440"},"htmlText":"It will drop again","listText":"It will drop again","text":"It will drop again","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941155502","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941158796,"gmtCreate":1680073226815,"gmtModify":1680073257147,"author":{"id":"4139109839512342","authorId":"4139109839512342","name":"meta ultramafic","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4139109839512342","authorIdStr":"4139109839512342"},"htmlText":"Tesla will keep growing any slowdown in stock price is only a buying opportunity so far 50% grouth since 2019 approx ?&nbsp; It's up to you do you really want to bet against Elon?","listText":"Tesla will keep growing any slowdown in stock price is only a buying opportunity so far 50% grouth since 2019 approx ?&nbsp; It's up to you do you really want to bet against Elon?","text":"Tesla will keep growing any slowdown in stock price is only a buying opportunity so far 50% grouth since 2019 approx ? It's up to you do you really want to bet against Elon?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941158796","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":106164769,"gmtCreate":1680080780995,"gmtModify":1680080787663,"authorId":9000000000000650,"author":{"id":9000000000000650,"idStr":"9000000000000650","authorId":9000000000000650,"name":"ClarenceNehemiah","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5fee988f6e6e3c043a31a7e8992655c4","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9941158796,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Still a good time to buy TSLA and hold for long term.","text":"Still a good time to buy TSLA and hold for long term.","html":"Still a good time to buy TSLA and hold for long term."},{"id":106164766,"gmtCreate":1680080746512,"gmtModify":1680080752805,"authorId":9000000000000664,"author":{"id":9000000000000664,"idStr":"9000000000000664","authorId":9000000000000664,"name":"CaesarHicks","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/067cda6133365badca6b51d9248d2066","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9941158796,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Come on! Let's keep going Tesla.","text":"Come on! Let's keep going Tesla.","html":"Come on! Let's keep going Tesla."}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941127862,"gmtCreate":1680069548257,"gmtModify":1680069552768,"author":{"id":"3566244878628904","authorId":"3566244878628904","name":"Wallstrtbets","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6c38bbee1121ea92508ad9508fa15c5e","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b073a07f77dbe6b3bec6b12311fde6bd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3566244878628904","authorIdStr":"3566244878628904"},"htmlText":"I told u so.","listText":"I told u so.","text":"I told u so.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941127862","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941124388,"gmtCreate":1680069000545,"gmtModify":1680069004446,"author":{"id":"4109816621463940","authorId":"4109816621463940","name":"Musky","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4109816621463940","authorIdStr":"4109816621463940"},"htmlText":"A shitty article. Guess he has to clocked time n so write this piece. In short he sees no upside n no downside ( as he dares not short it). So holding it is the best strategy as if recession didnt occur n if&nbsp; sale volumes surge, the stcok prices will ahoot","listText":"A shitty article. Guess he has to clocked time n so write this piece. In short he sees no upside n no downside ( as he dares not short it). So holding it is the best strategy as if recession didnt occur n if&nbsp; sale volumes surge, the stcok prices will ahoot","text":"A shitty article. Guess he has to clocked time n so write this piece. In short he sees no upside n no downside ( as he dares not short it). So holding it is the best strategy as if recession didnt occur n if sale volumes surge, the stcok prices will ahoot","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941124388","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. 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I wouldn't claim this as a biased article but sure enough nothing beats consumer sentiments","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941125838","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941122996,"gmtCreate":1680067801815,"gmtModify":1680068012063,"author":{"id":"4096249944808010","authorId":"4096249944808010","name":"leon leong","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4096249944808010","authorIdStr":"4096249944808010"},"htmlText":"When ppl says drop it will up lol","listText":"When ppl says drop it will up lol","text":"When ppl says drop it will up lol","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941122996","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941126271,"gmtCreate":1680067153794,"gmtModify":1680067997094,"author":{"id":"3581742599050106","authorId":"3581742599050106","name":"AlexHeng","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b29b12ce264cc14b43dad5818f6ed0f","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3581742599050106","authorIdStr":"3581742599050106"},"htmlText":"Oil n energy prices are going up hence EV is still in demand. &nbsp;Tesla will continue to grow in the long run.&nbsp;","listText":"Oil n energy prices are going up hence EV is still in demand. &nbsp;Tesla will continue to grow in the long run.&nbsp;","text":"Oil n energy prices are going up hence EV is still in demand. Tesla will continue to grow in the long run.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941126271","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941126196,"gmtCreate":1680066940816,"gmtModify":1680066947077,"author":{"id":"4126558027897282","authorId":"4126558027897282","name":"JediGingerNinja","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9fec3f291b238bacf1a948fd098d3042","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4c5ceab71416b120bab4604c0754b52a","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4126558027897282","authorIdStr":"4126558027897282"},"htmlText":"Im of the opinion that lowering its prices will ultimately prove to be genius let me explain...&nbsp; 1. The % of the global population that can now probably afford a tesla has increased exponentially. 2. the ability now for competition to compete at that price range will decrease if not evaporate into the abyss... I see this as strategic short term pain for an obvious long term domination which once achieved can then increase profits to a higher margin than if the premium producer stayed at premium prices! 😉&nbsp;","listText":"Im of the opinion that lowering its prices will ultimately prove to be genius let me explain...&nbsp; 1. The % of the global population that can now probably afford a tesla has increased exponentially. 2. the ability now for competition to compete at that price range will decrease if not evaporate into the abyss... I see this as strategic short term pain for an obvious long term domination which once achieved can then increase profits to a higher margin than if the premium producer stayed at premium prices! 😉&nbsp;","text":"Im of the opinion that lowering its prices will ultimately prove to be genius let me explain... 1. The % of the global population that can now probably afford a tesla has increased exponentially. 2. the ability now for competition to compete at that price range will decrease if not evaporate into the abyss... I see this as strategic short term pain for an obvious long term domination which once achieved can then increase profits to a higher margin than if the premium producer stayed at premium prices! 😉","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":24,"commentSize":22,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941126196","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. 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The more they have negative effect, the next moment the stock move north. Please give more.&nbsp;","listText":"Seem like alot of analysts giving negative information on Tesla. The more they have negative effect, the next moment the stock move north. Please give more.&nbsp;","text":"Seem like alot of analysts giving negative information on Tesla. The more they have negative effect, the next moment the stock move north. Please give more.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941126373","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941128737,"gmtCreate":1680066716630,"gmtModify":1680066720763,"author":{"id":"4125148185432112","authorId":"4125148185432112","name":"AlanChong","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3dee1aa3a3a3c1814833a4d3f8a5669","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4125148185432112","authorIdStr":"4125148185432112"},"htmlText":"OMG!😱 Just read your&nbsp;post,&nbsp;I should sell it to&nbsp;cut lost. And also I need to use $ now... 😓","listText":"OMG!😱 Just read your&nbsp;post,&nbsp;I should sell it to&nbsp;cut lost. And also I need to use $ now... 😓","text":"OMG!😱 Just read your post, I should sell it to cut lost. And also I need to use $ now... 😓","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941128737","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941128654,"gmtCreate":1680066557779,"gmtModify":1680066802611,"author":{"id":"4135428748518022","authorId":"4135428748518022","name":"Roy pv","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0aaef0d11e3727af41b7b5e1768d6b58","vip":1,"crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4135428748518022","authorIdStr":"4135428748518022"},"htmlText":"Misguiding&nbsp;","listText":"Misguiding&nbsp;","text":"Misguiding","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941128654","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941121706,"gmtCreate":1680065972806,"gmtModify":1680065975850,"author":{"id":"4101519928373730","authorId":"4101519928373730","name":"HAN8","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f03651132a03205c38c32fafbfb71da4","vip":1,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4101519928373730","authorIdStr":"4101519928373730"},"htmlText":"Thks","listText":"Thks","text":"Thks","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941121706","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941121251,"gmtCreate":1680065853374,"gmtModify":1680065856956,"author":{"id":"4140610748863342","authorId":"4140610748863342","name":"DelgohccTiger","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4140610748863342","authorIdStr":"4140610748863342"},"htmlText":"Thanks for sharing your views.","listText":"Thanks for sharing your views.","text":"Thanks for sharing your views.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941121251","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941121977,"gmtCreate":1680065572699,"gmtModify":1680065576741,"author":{"id":"4116569270341752","authorId":"4116569270341752","name":"valentia","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/64f8204fb4e5976eb0c1960943ccb2a2","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4116569270341752","authorIdStr":"4116569270341752"},"htmlText":"Yes it's overly priced&nbsp;","listText":"Yes it's overly priced&nbsp;","text":"Yes it's overly priced","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941121977","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9941121089,"gmtCreate":1680065523342,"gmtModify":1680065528179,"author":{"id":"3583129687538144","authorId":"3583129687538144","name":"BenGI","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b0a2963eb37c60c5d6d4a8dbcd266952","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3583129687538144","authorIdStr":"3583129687538144"},"htmlText":"Roti Prata..","listText":"Roti Prata..","text":"Roti Prata..","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941121089","repostId":1129951895,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.&#39;s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker&#39;s profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla&#39;s news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (&#34;EV&#34;). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk&#39;s brand are likely to be Tesla&#39;s potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla&#39;s management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla&#39;s Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla&#39;s most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla&#39;s profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor&#39;s presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company&#39;s new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company&#39;s past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla&#39;s existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk&#39;s company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla&#39;s business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla&#39;s artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let&#39;s start with the company&#39;s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company&#39;s price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company&#39;s cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla&#39;s price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a &#34;good&#34; P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla&#39;s is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the &#34;next Apple&#34; in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company&#39;s cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla&#39;s credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla&#39;s EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla&#39;s cash and debt improvements. 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Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"}],"hasMoreComments":true,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":104,"commentSize":28,"repostSize":21,"favoriteSize":3,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false}}