The Apple-Microsoft Tech War Reignites for a New Era

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The Apple-Microsoft Tech War Reignites for a New Era

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A new clash of tech titans is taking shape asAppleInc.AAPL-0.22%andMicrosoftCorp.MSFT-0.63%reignite a feud that dates back to the formative days of the personal computer era. The companies’ co-...

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steelyding
·2021-06-28
Nice
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Feeeedel
·2021-06-28
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Lingmean
·2021-06-28
Wow
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LuffyDono
·2021-06-28
Apple FTW [Miser]
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beebeebee
·2021-06-28
[得意]
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TweetyCSL
·2021-06-28
Nice
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AdrianT
·2021-06-28
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yvneyng
·2021-06-28
It’s healthy to have competition but this is also getting a bit old. If Jobs and Gates can put it behind them there’s no reason the new managements can’t. Just my two cents worth. Lol
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- KS_Lee:
  Agree
  2021-06-28
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- LuffyDono:
  Damn right
  2021-06-28
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- Triggerme:
  Totally agree.
  2021-06-28
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b8kson
·2021-06-28
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- MJ89:
  Done
  2021-06-28
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Koropok88
·2021-06-28
I support items I am using. Microsoft 365 is user friendly and adding efficiency to boost work productivity. [強] [比心]
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- 小狮狮:
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五指神獭
·2021-06-28
Back to I am Mac/I am PC era
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Atta9
·2021-06-28
Like and comment please! Thanks!
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Finree
·2021-06-28
Do they need to have a tech war? Both have their own customer base and in fact can work on aynergy
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- YIPKF:
  Both to invest keep long [笑哭]
  2021-06-28
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emeliaks
·2021-06-28
[Surprised]
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sharonyim
·2021-06-28
pls comment and like ?
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- aaronhReplying tosharonyim:
  [开心]
  2021-07-21
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- sharonyim:
  like
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- sharonyim:
  pls comment and like ?
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JayD
·2021-06-28
Nice move MS
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- shaunlohloh:
  Yeah
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mengss7
·2021-06-28
Support apple
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SXZX2026
·2021-06-28
Let's compete ?
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Chinyj
·2021-06-28
Please like and share
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- MugenQiang:
  ok
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RS142
·2021-06-28
Clash of giants
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Microsoft has been vocal in criticizing limits that it sees as hampering the growth of its own booming videogaming business.\nMicrosoft this year backed videogame creator Epic Games when it sued Apple forwhat it allegedare anticompetitive practices that the Cupertino, Calif.-based company denies. Apple takes as much as a 30% cut for in-app sales made when the software is downloaded through the App Store.\nEpic Games called Lori Wright, Microsoft’s vice president of business development for gaming, media and entertainment, as a witness to talk about her failed attempt to bring a bundled videogame streaming service called Game Pass Ultimate to Apple’s App Store. Apple, she said, treated Microsoft’s offering in a way that was different from how it handled streaming services provided by other companies such asNetflixInc.\nIn a court filing, Apple tried to discredit her testimony and raise questions about the motives of other Epic witnesses, suggesting Microsoft was pulling the strings behind Epic’s legal action.\n“A reasonable observer might wonder whether Epic is serving as a stalking horse for Microsoft,” Apple said in a court filing. “Yet Microsoft shielded itself from meaningful discovery in this litigation by not appearing as a party or sending a corporate representative to testify.”\nA judge is expected to rule on the overall case in the coming weeks.\nWhile Microsoft said it is lowering the cut it takes on content sold on its new app store, the company will continue to take 30% on games sold on its Xbox console.\nBoth Apple and Microsoft have other companies they spar with. 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