Wall Street Turns Bearish on Stocks After Bad Year

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Wall Street Turns Bearish on Stocks After Bad Year

Bloomberg2022-12-02

Average forecast points to another drop for S&P 500 in 2023Gap in highest, lowest targets is widest in more than a decadeOne bad year in the stock market has turned Wall Street strategists into bears ...

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·2022-12-04
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Time the market - getting tougher[LOL]
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·2022-12-02
Reality sinking in but slowly🤔
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·2022-12-02
Wednesday was another false dawn. Especially for those Chinese ADR's.
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