Premium Or Mid-Range? Struggling XPeng Stuck In Identity Crisis

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SummaryXPeng’s sales rose just 19% in the third quarter to 6.82 billion yuan, but its loss ballooned by a much larger 49% to 2.38 billion yuan.The company shocked markets earlier this month when it ...

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Guavaxf30
·2022-12-19
XPeng has a lot of room to correct down. I confess I am negative and have taken a shortposition.
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·2022-12-14
Their cars are really not impressive and it look very dated. You can check it out at their website. [Onlooker]
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·2022-12-14
The China EV market is huge. But it is also one where there are many participants carving out a pie of it. Amongst the newer "Growth" EV's (Li, Nio, Xpeng), Xpeng is showing the worst results. So bad that even their founding CEO resigned. Best to park your investment elsewhere for now. Not all EV's will survive this round.
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But its net loss widened by a far larger 49% to 2.38 billion yuan.“They’re in an increasingly competitive market and are getting squeezed in their current market position,” said Bill Russo, founder and CEO of Shanghai-based consulting firm Automobility. He added that XPeng also faces bigger cost pressures than its competitors due to its relative lack of vertical integration.Stock surgeWhile XPeng’s third quarter report hardly looked encouraging, you would never know that based on investor reaction. XPeng’s stock soared 47% the day of the announcement, adding $3 billion to its market value. The stock has maintained all of those gains since then, amid a broader rally that has seen the broader Hang Seng China Enterprises Index rise 18% since the end of November.But the rapid gains for XPeng’s stock have come after a long period of suffering. Before the Nov. 30 rally, XPeng’s shares had lost 76% of their value since July 1. And even after the rally, they are still down by a similar amount year to date. NIO and Li Auto aren’t doing much better, down 57% and 28%, respectively, since the start of the year.In order to boost sales, XPeng has launched a limited-time price guarantee policy, effectively meaning that consumers who complete orders with deposit payments before the end of 2022 will continue to enjoy EV subsidies set to expire at the end of this year.The entire group of EV makers is taking a hit from rising raw material price, combined with the continuous need for big R&D and marketing spending. XPeng has spent over 20 billion yuan alone on R&D and marketing since 2020.As costs climb and sales slow, consolidation in the industry will inevitably accelerate, said Wang Dan, chief economist at Hang Seng Bank. “EV makers with the best technology and the most cash will survive and expand, similar to what happened in the solar industry five years ago,” she said. “We will see more Chinese EV carmakers exiting the industry.”XPeng needs to sell more cars to boost its chances of emerging from the consolidation intact. But the reality isn’t great. The company’s previously popular P7 model is no longer a leader, and sales have been mediocre so far for its G9 model, launched in September, with only 2,353 units sold by the end of November.“They entered with low premium pricing but there’s a lot of competition there,” said Russo. “And their … products are not standouts in their segment. 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