Apple: Cracks Appearing?

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Apple: Cracks Appearing?

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SummaryApple is starting to face cracks in consumer demand for smartphones and computers.The market continues to miss that analysts only forecast slow growth for the years ahead, and analysts are ...

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Jess261
·2022-04-12
Okay
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Willo88
·2022-04-12
Still ppl will buy WW due to great quality products. Better buy at 165 before we shoot up back to 175 and above!!! [Miser]
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ABTSP
·2022-04-12
Still a profit company
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MSTAN
·2022-04-12
👌👌
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Andrewinho
·2022-04-12
Of course, it is a great business!!! 👏
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MengKeng
·2022-04-12
Let's monitor for a while first before buying, better this way
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romanc9
·2022-04-12
He comments may be right but did not really mentioned about Apple EV.. Also should consider overall earning and not individual products. A overall sales represents the company P/L not individual products.
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GL90
·2022-04-12
Yes
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Andrewcms
·2022-04-12
Yes
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Aoyjai
·2022-04-12
Cracks appearing for DCA and dip buying.
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DingDongBell
·2022-04-12
When Apple takes a hit, there goes rest of the markets [Cry]
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Xalier
·2022-04-12
Wa
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Mireyachen万亿丰
·2022-04-12
Apple car is ahead schedule . It is launching in September 2022.
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Kael.Foo
·2022-04-12
About time they are finally addressing the. Too high stock price.
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Kopred
·2022-04-12
Nice
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Boink
·2022-04-12
Liks pls
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Hayz
·2022-04-12
Apple is naturally diversified....in products, in geographic locations, etc, etc, best buy the dip stock
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Jasonbehr87
·2022-04-12
Well. Aapl is still so so much more affordable compared to lots like Alphabet... or amazon... or tesla.... do what say u?
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Tiger7989
·2022-04-12
OK dump
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Daviistoh
·2022-04-12
Bye
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After all, TSMC still can't fully meet chip demand.Elevated RisksThe risk isn't that Apple misses consensus analyst targets, but rather that the tech giant actually matches current weak growth targets. Most readers are probably tired of hearing this point, but nobody actually expected the tech giant to record fast growth over the next 4 years.The highest forecasted growth rates through FY25 is the 8.2% rate this fiscal year. The quarterly growth rates are set to dip to the 5% to 7% range for the next few years with Apple likely reporting the last double-digit growth in FQ1'22.SA earnings estimatesIn essence, Apple analysts didn't expect fast growth and the company only matching analyst estimates won't warrant the stock still trading at ~28x EPS estimates. The trend over the last month has been revenue estimates actually trending lower. 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Better buy at 165 before we shoot up back to 175 and above!!!&nbsp;[Miser]&nbsp;","listText":"Still ppl will buy WW due to great quality products. Better buy at 165 before we shoot up back to 175 and above!!!&nbsp;[Miser]&nbsp;","text":"Still ppl will buy WW due to great quality products. Better buy at 165 before we shoot up back to 175 and above!!! 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Also should consider overall earning and not individual products. A overall sales represents the company P/L not individual products.&nbsp;","listText":"He comments may be right but did not really mentioned about Apple EV.. Also should consider overall earning and not individual products. A overall sales represents the company P/L not individual products.&nbsp;","text":"He comments may be right but did not really mentioned about Apple EV.. Also should consider overall earning and not individual products. 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