Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.

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Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...

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Bunsy
·2021-03-20
Slightly Green for a few days then very red again
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dexterlimm
·2021-03-19
Ohh
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NickFaithZ
·2021-03-19
Time to buy the dip!
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james33738
·2021-03-19
Like anf comment pls
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- Terry1989:
  buy
  2021-03-22
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JojoLee
·2021-03-19
[思考]
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- TradingNewbie:
  [呆住]
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FTGR
·2021-03-19
Many competitors..
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Swifty
·2021-03-19
Can someone help to comment please thanks
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- wallstreaks:
  support
  2021-03-20
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- YiiYii:
  Here you go.
  2021-03-19
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- 627ac981:
  Sure
  2021-03-19
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Angsana
·2021-03-19
Wah Lao eh
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  Ya lor
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Ngansee
·2021-03-19
Tesla
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- BoonSeng:
  go go go
  2021-03-19
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Ray140101
·2021-03-19
??
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- RyC:
  [惊讶]
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MightyPooP
·2021-03-19
Diamond hands!
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TSL1121
·2021-03-19
buy tesla?
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geniet
·2021-03-19
Buy the dip
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Nebhol
·2021-03-19
Buy the dip in Tesla
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imteng87
·2021-03-19
Buy buy buy, like n comment pls
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- cutemiao:
  Good, will do so.
  2021-03-19
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- Nebhol:
  Yes
  2021-03-19
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- J.G:
  pls reply back here. thx
  2021-03-19
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ArkaneX
·2021-03-19
Ok
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TizzyT
·2021-03-19
Like and comment please!
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TheRainmaker
·2021-03-19
Sad
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  2021-03-19
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Kiattt
·2021-03-19
Sales again. Like and comment pls. Ty.
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LeeJC
·2021-03-19
Rotation lets go!
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  LETS GOOOO
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The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":350109674,"gmtCreate":1616163747498,"gmtModify":1704791772622,"author":{"id":"3574770763517773","authorId":"3574770763517773","name":"dexterlimm","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/ff3ae7b5ffb15833b05bf270a96dd97b","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"htmlText":"Ohh","listText":"Ohh","text":"Ohh","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/350109674","repostId":1191602834,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1191602834","pubTimestamp":1616115492,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1191602834?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-03-19 08:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":3842508,"gmtCreate":1616245334023,"gmtModify":1680781114737,"authorId":3560130779771513,"author":{"id":3560130779771513,"authorId":3560130779771513,"name":"wallstreaks","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5a0d57618353cd0406b7a1f7ee2445a8","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":327451912,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"support","text":"support","html":"support"},{"id":3833419,"gmtCreate":1616129045773,"gmtModify":1680780968049,"authorId":3567052123559984,"author":{"id":3567052123559984,"authorId":3567052123559984,"name":"YiiYii","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb10d436567743e0e60ba0933900bf20","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":327451912,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Here you go.","text":"Here you go.","html":"Here you go."},{"id":3832476,"gmtCreate":1616119088108,"gmtModify":1680780949716,"authorId":3568342145233430,"author":{"id":3568342145233430,"authorId":3568342145233430,"name":"627ac981","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":327451912,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Sure","text":"Sure","html":"Sure"}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":327423616,"gmtCreate":1616118409335,"gmtModify":1704791170351,"author":{"id":"3575326435298567","authorId":"3575326435298567","name":"Angsana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3c8492153d7059ec1aa704a1bd541c14","vip":1,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Wah Lao eh","listText":"Wah Lao eh","text":"Wah Lao eh","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/327423616","repostId":1191602834,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1191602834","pubTimestamp":1616115492,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1191602834?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-03-19 08:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Is Down. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":327481398,"gmtCreate":1616117141814,"gmtModify":1704791144256,"author":{"id":"3578865310602419","authorId":"3578865310602419","name":"TizzyT","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9980a14ac1ccf1d41b4b365a7e5d35db","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Like and comment please!&nbsp;","listText":"Like and comment please!&nbsp;","text":"Like and comment please!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/327481398","repostId":1191602834,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1191602834","pubTimestamp":1616115492,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1191602834?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-03-19 08:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":327483864,"gmtCreate":1616117067758,"gmtModify":1704791143768,"author":{"id":"3562288345465729","authorId":"3562288345465729","name":"TheRainmaker","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a2446b188392bb216f8e13ba56e44832","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Sad","listText":"Sad","text":"Sad","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/327483864","repostId":1191602834,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1191602834","pubTimestamp":1616115492,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1191602834?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-03-19 08:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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Like and comment pls. Ty.&nbsp;","listText":"Sales again. Like and comment pls. Ty.&nbsp;","text":"Sales again. Like and comment pls. Ty.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/327483017","repostId":1191602834,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1191602834","pubTimestamp":1616115492,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1191602834?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-03-19 08:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. 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The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1191602834","media":"Barrons","summary":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-gr","content":"<p>Tesla&nbsp;stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The&nbsp;Nasdaq Composite&nbsp;is off 3%. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;is down 1.5%. Only the&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The&nbsp;Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.</p><p>The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).</p><p>The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and&nbsp;Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.</p><p>Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.</p><p>The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO&nbsp;(NIO) stock is down 22%. And&nbsp;XPeng&nbsp;(XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.</p><p>Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.</p><p>Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.</p><p>GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.</p><p>That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.</p><p>Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.</p><p>When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.</p><p>However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.</p><p>It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Down. GM and Ford Are Up. 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GM and Ford Are Up. How Interest Rates Play With Stocks.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-03-19 08:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","QQQ":"纳指100ETF","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","GM":"通用汽车","XPEV":"小鹏汽车"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-is-down-gm-and-ford-are-up-how-rates-play-with-stocks-51616110622?mod=hp_LEAD_4","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191602834","content_text":"Tesla stock is down again in late Thursday trading---the stock of yet another richly valued, high-growth company battered byrising interest rates.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock is down about 7%. The Nasdaq Composite is off 3%. The S&P 500 is down 1.5%. Only the Dow Jones Industrial Average is hanging on, down only 0.5%. The Invesco QQQ ETF(QQQ), which tracks the 100 largest stocks in the Nasdaq, was down 3%.The Dow-Nasdaq performance illustrates what’s going on with shares of Tesla, the electric vehicle pioneer, as well as tradition automakers General Motors (GM) andFordMotor (F).The Nasdaq is a market-capitalization weighted index. A handful of big tech names, including Tesla, make up about 40% of the index. The Dow, on the other hand, is weighted by stock price--UnitedHealth(UNH),Boeing(BA),Amgen(AMGN),Goldman Sachs(GS) and Home Depot(HD) are its biggest weightings.Higher interest rates hurt growth stocks more than others for two reasons. First, high-growth companies typically need new capital to finance growth, and higher interest rates makes that more expensive. Second, higher-growth companies generate most of their free cash flow far in the future, which is worth less--relatively speaking--than cash generated right now by more mature companies.The U.S. 10-year Treasury Bond yield rose higher than 1.7% Thursday, up from 1.3% about a month ago. The rise is playing havoc on EV stock prices. Tesla shares are down about 15% over the past month.NIO (NIO) stock is down 22%. And XPeng (XPEV) stock is off by about 13%.Higher rates haven’thurt traditional auto maker stocks--at all. General Motors shares are up about 14% over the past month. Ford shares have gained 10%.Higher rates also help GM and Ford because of their large pension obligations.GM and Ford pensions, on a combined bases, are about $20 billion underfunded. They have promised pension payments to employees that are worth roughly $175 billion. The two have set aside assets to pay worth about $155 billion.That’s a lot of money, but pension deficits are helped by rising rates.Pension obligations are a stream of cash flows paid far into the future. There’s no maturity date, like with a bond, when the company owes a large fixed amount. In addition, regulators require companies to discount the pension obligations at low rates of interest. Here’s the logic: The cash should be discounted at a government bond yield because that rate will determine the size of the cash pile needed if all the pension assets were invested in those government bonds.When interest rates are low, the cash pile needs to be huge. Consider, the 10-year treasury bond yield is about 1.6%, and GM and Ford pay out roughly $10 billion in pension benefits combined. If they bought 10-year bonds to make the payments, they would need $630 billion to pay obligations using just the interest on those bonds. But if government bonds yielded 5%, the cash pile would need to be only $200 billion.However, the auto makers, and other companies with pension obligations, invest pension assets in stocks and corporate bonds and have earned much more than government bond yields historically. In that way, the pension deficit is always overstated. A good rule of thumb for investors is that if a pension plan detailed in an annual report is 85% or 90% funded, then extra cash won’t be needed to top up pension assets and the company’s plan is in pretty good shape.It’s an odd reason that investors have to cheer for higher interest rates in the case of GM and Ford. But, for now, they are a little better off than Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":3837277,"gmtCreate":1616166854418,"gmtModify":1680781022187,"authorId":3575333062881403,"author":{"id":3575333062881403,"authorId":3575333062881403,"name":"bouncingfun","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8f8b02fa4d041b4c66096355c41572d6","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":327489822,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":" LETS GOOOO","text":" LETS GOOOO","html":" LETS GOOOO"}],"langContent":"EN"}],"hasMoreComments":true,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":81,"commentSize":39,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":2,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false}}