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Opinion: Stock investors now have come to a cliff in the road — and options are limited

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Fundamental things haven’t applied to the U.S. market but that seems about to change. The coronavirus pandemic has been excellent for investors, but most now realize that the stock market’s ...

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liawz
·2021-06-13
Nice
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Thiogui
·2021-06-13
??????
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Ade03
·2021-06-13
Wow
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mummumtumtum
·2021-06-13
The difference will be whether one is a long term investor or speculator out for a quick buck
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yct
·2021-06-12
Lol
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Zalu
·2021-06-12
Fundamentals should still not be ignored especially in the long term.
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Ninz
·2021-06-12
Good read
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mummumtumtum
·2021-06-12
Investors for long term will not be too bothered about correction (if any) they know over time they will get it back
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Sherrs
·2021-06-12
Interesting read
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replaygoh
·2021-06-12
could be better
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Tan123
·2021-06-12
enjoy capitalism
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mrzhuge
·2021-06-12
Cool
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rsaje
·2021-06-12
Like and comment please
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  Pls respone back. thx
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mQ
·2021-06-12
Are we expecting for consolidation till Sept??? Feedbacks?
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  bullish
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ming22
·2021-06-12
Agreed, don't gamble
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  Agreed too
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XiaTian
·2021-06-12
Like comments [Smile]
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·2021-06-12
Good article
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