TSMC Shares Tumble As Margin Concerns Outweigh Strong Demand

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TSMC Shares Tumble As Margin Concerns Outweigh Strong Demand

Bloomberg2021-07-16

Third-quarter margin guidance a disappointment: Morgan Stanley. Chipmaker said sales will rise more than 20% in 2021. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.shares dropped the most in two months after...

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LnP
·2021-07-16
I’ve sold out TSMC … yes it starts going down.
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Shan_2021
·2021-07-16
Manipulation .too late townidentify less margin
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bzlim
·2021-07-16
Please sell down for me. I want to continue accumulating
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SunSandSea
·2021-07-16
?
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jk0726
·2021-07-16
??
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Yawyaw
·2021-07-16
Good entry point now
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- jk0726:
  ??
  2021-07-16
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Yawyaw
·2021-07-16
Good buy now[微笑]
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Jayden_Mok
·2021-07-16
Overall should be good year for them
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Soksok
·2021-07-16
Like
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- Jayden_Mok:
  done
  2021-07-16
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tanks09
·2021-07-16
Meaning what? Not to moon but to hell?
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- tanks09:
  Ok lets huat
  2021-07-19
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- TimTamPrata:
  Huat
  2021-07-18
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- TimTamPrata:
  Huat
  2021-07-18
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kelvinseech
·2021-07-16
Like and comment pls
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blo
·2021-07-16
Thanks
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- NongTrading:
  [Grin][Facepalm]
  2021-07-16
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SSVC
·2021-07-16
Yup Appreciate your response and comments Thanks
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- WKB:
  Me too
  2021-07-16
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- SSVC:
  [Strong][ShakeHands]
  2021-07-16
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henghm
·2021-07-16
Like and comment
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Gamestonk
·2021-07-16
Of course the price thumble after good news… nice time for HF to take profits and re-enter at a later stage
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Timevestor
·2021-07-16
Please like and comment
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- NongTrading:
  [Shy]
  2021-07-16
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- kelvinseech:
  like and comment pls
  2021-07-16
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edgetrader
·2021-07-16
Buy or sell tsmc?
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- ngckkk:
  sell and wait for lower price
  2021-07-16
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