Apple, Tesla Trigger Wall Street Dreams of $3 Trillion Valuation

Bloomberg2021-03-23

(Bloomberg) -- A growing chorus of Wall Street professionals is predicting that electric and autonomous vehicles sales will propel Apple Inc. and Tesla Inc. to $3 trillion each in market value by 2030...

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KekeZ
·2021-03-23
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K74
·2021-03-23
Wow!
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Yenyen
·2021-03-23
Tell me your opinion about this news...
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- Limth:
  hope we have the patience to wait
  2021-03-28
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Macrowave
·2021-03-23
Car dreams, more severe chips shortage
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AS78
·2021-03-23
Super scary. Please comment
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- AS78:
  Someone please comment
  2021-03-23
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Honzell
·2021-03-23
Rocket to the moon
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Otahman
·2021-03-23
Like n comment pls
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- JJQ:
  Done!
  2021-03-23
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Moonbyul
·2021-03-23
I prefer to buy Apple stock as it more of a profitable company. Next month they will launch a new iPad and iMac ?. It a good buy for this stock ??
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- UNCLEUNCLE:
  Good good
  2021-03-23
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Holla
·2021-03-23
Like my comment if u long Tesla!
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deeplearning
·2021-03-23
Believe in $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$??
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- ZhiYoong:
  diamond hands
  2021-03-23
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- GavinTan138:
  Why is buying price?
  2021-03-23
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- Teslafly:
  I belive too
  2021-03-23
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BigRobin
·2021-03-23
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- BigRobin:
  Test
  2021-03-23
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- PYCHUAReplying toBigRobin:
  hello
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- BigRobin:
  Test
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Weilonglek
·2021-03-23
Technologies are moving faster than we thought
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Tomji
·2021-03-23
Colas is right is sticking to fundamentals. Not proved yet some of this high talk.
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Maydelyn
·2021-03-23
Wow.. Apple is a better stock to hold as compared to Tesla. My suggestion if you want to hold both, Apple for long term and Tesla for short term. You may differ from my humble opinion.
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- Derpinerp:
  Agreed. But I feel that Tesla has the potential to become like Apple.Though if Apple enter the ev market, my bet will be on apple.
  2021-03-23
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JohnL
·2021-03-23
Personally like apple. I support EV in general. It is the future.
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Eaglewings
·2021-03-23
I think it will be much sooner than 2030.
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JohnTeo
·2021-03-23
Apple has changed the world communications and lifestyle. Let’s see how Tesla can have the same impact as Apple.
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Silverlitz
·2021-03-23
Yes I support both Tesla and Apple. ??
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LimLS
·2021-03-23
Buy both at dips. But don't go all in. Practice risk management by control position sizing
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- Acella:
  good advice
  2021-03-23
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