Tesla Could Take a Big Loss on Its Bitcoin Bets

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Tesla Could Take a Big Loss on Its Bitcoin Bets

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Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) big bet on Bitcoin (BTC-USD) is beginning to look like a blunder amid a violent crash for cryptocurrencies.While adding Bitcoin (BTC-USD -14.6%) in early 2021 looked like a wise ...

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Looyusooi
·2022-06-14
Ok
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No mo
·2022-06-14
Yes pls start selling. So I can buy cheap cheap tsla
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JLKang
·2022-06-14
Good to know
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JFK
·2022-06-14
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HENRYCSC
·2022-06-14
[Smile]
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Remotecam
·2022-06-14
Good to know. July ER will be tough, for everyone.
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Leroy Lim
·2022-06-14
Oh, I thought Elon Musk pumped and dumped it all, apparently I was mistaken, he only sold off a portion of it lol. Cryptocurrencies are so unregulated, I don't see how companies that have to follow laws and regulations can simply risk billions of dollars
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Desmond669
·2022-06-14
Buy
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Thalos
·2022-06-14
The figure in which Tesla hold Bitcoin is not a significant amount to the entire assets holding.
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ZenInv
·2022-06-14
Likely
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zachlee
·2022-06-14
it will go to 400-450 range and that will be a buy. Look at the charts you know i'm right
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Ceres303
·2022-06-14
Thanks
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JSQ
·2022-06-14
That's bad.
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Sunday128
·2022-06-14
Ok
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Vicholes
·2022-06-14
[Happy]
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ThinkOrSwim
·2022-06-14
TSLA would have been in a better position if it added GOLD to its treasury, according to its filings, it had toyed with that option. Now, TSLA will consider so - just like what Palantir did, adding $51 million of gold to its treasury.
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蒋小鱼
·2022-06-14
Ha ha ha
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Zambala108
·2022-06-14
[Cry] [Cry] [Cry]
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Ahsiang
·2022-06-14
Chiong leh
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Per a leaked e-mail from Elon Musk, Q2 was a \"very tough quarter\" due to constraints in the country and a late-June production push is needed to spruce up the difficult quarter.In the end, the Bitcoin issue adds yet another headache to a quarterly report that is likely to be incredibly noisy with Elon Musk’s proposed purchase of Twitter, a stock split, China lockdowns, sexual harassment allegations against the CEO, autopilot issues, and more adding to an already challenging quarter for automakers.","kind":null,"is_publish_news":null,"is_publish_highlight":null,"is_publish_live":null,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":9052563750,"gmtCreate":1655195639770,"gmtModify":1676535579580,"author":{"id":"4100437715079400","authorId":"4100437715079400","name":"Looyusooi","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9052563750","repostId":2243611564,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9052536149,"gmtCreate":1655193726981,"gmtModify":1676535578765,"author":{"id":"3567509805932952","authorId":"3567509805932952","name":"No mo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d92292d1b91cb20c128699129af5a63e","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Yes pls start selling. So I can buy cheap cheap tsla","listText":"Yes pls start selling. So I can buy cheap cheap tsla","text":"Yes pls start selling. 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July ER will be tough, for everyone.","listText":"Good to know. July ER will be tough, for everyone.","text":"Good to know. July ER will be tough, for everyone.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9052288131","repostId":2243611564,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9052288930,"gmtCreate":1655178130120,"gmtModify":1676535576714,"author":{"id":"4099302906769020","authorId":"4099302906769020","name":"Leroy Lim","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Oh, I thought Elon Musk pumped and dumped it all, apparently I was mistaken, he only sold off a portion of it lol. Cryptocurrencies are so unregulated, I don't see how companies that have to follow laws and regulations can simply risk billions of dollars","listText":"Oh, I thought Elon Musk pumped and dumped it all, apparently I was mistaken, he only sold off a portion of it lol. Cryptocurrencies are so unregulated, I don't see how companies that have to follow laws and regulations can simply risk billions of dollars","text":"Oh, I thought Elon Musk pumped and dumped it all, apparently I was mistaken, he only sold off a portion of it lol. Cryptocurrencies are so unregulated, I don't see how companies that have to follow laws and regulations can simply risk billions of dollars","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9052288930","repostId":2243611564,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9052217404,"gmtCreate":1655177464608,"gmtModify":1676535576602,"author":{"id":"3562118563279867","authorId":"3562118563279867","name":"Desmond669","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2484115c94d3471cb46f20ea7598b4a","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Buy&nbsp;","listText":"Buy&nbsp;","text":"Buy","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9052217404","repostId":2243611564,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9052216364,"gmtCreate":1655176749658,"gmtModify":1676535576497,"author":{"id":"4101955883486630","authorId":"4101955883486630","name":"Thalos","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/55ba87139db7cd8dd783879dbd6ed4c5","vip":1,"crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"htmlText":"The figure in which Tesla hold Bitcoin is not a significant amount to the entire assets holding.&nbsp;","listText":"The figure in which Tesla hold Bitcoin is not a significant amount to the entire assets holding.&nbsp;","text":"The figure in which Tesla hold Bitcoin is not a significant amount to the entire assets holding.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9052216364","repostId":2243611564,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9052213309,"gmtCreate":1655176433001,"gmtModify":1676535576427,"author":{"id":"4098783902581330","authorId":"4098783902581330","name":"ZenInv","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/033bd47e3df1977aaef462f53997e9f1","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Likely","listText":"Likely","text":"Likely","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9052213309","repostId":2243611564,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9052210584,"gmtCreate":1655176232048,"gmtModify":1676535576389,"author":{"id":"3579213029512074","authorId":"3579213029512074","name":"zachlee","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"it will go to 400-450 range and that will be a buy. 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