Palantir Won't Rise Again Until This Happens

Motley Fool2022-11-09

Big-data analytics company Palantir reported earnings on Monday, Nov. 7, resulting in an 11.5% drop -- the latest leg down in the stock's 70% decline over the past year. Curiously, the company ...

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Guardian_J
·2022-11-10
Wooo
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lyKeoh
·2022-11-09
Only buy in 2024 since the ceo predicted that 2025 will start to profit
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- Guardian_J:
  lol
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Dawang
·2022-11-09
They also need to reconsider their SBC Stock Based Compenstation options. At this rate, they could end up like a banana notes, or worth like toilet paper...
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- PagRobinson:
  Ha ha ha, a very interesting metaphor. I hope this will not happen.
  2022-11-09
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rayguy
·2022-11-09
Buy buy buy
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Yeahyeah
·2022-11-09
Sad. I kept DCA
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- Greg2021:
  Great job. DCA rules!
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T202311701
·2022-11-09
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Jackal
·2022-11-09
Grab
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At this rate, they could end up like a banana notes, or worth like toilet paper...","listText":"They also need to reconsider their SBC Stock Based Compenstation options. At this rate, they could end up like a banana notes, or worth like toilet paper...","text":"They also need to reconsider their SBC Stock Based Compenstation options. At this rate, they could end up like a banana notes, or worth like toilet paper...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9987779211","repostId":2281189119,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":104731222,"gmtCreate":1668008493367,"gmtModify":1668008506717,"authorId":9000000000000432,"author":{"id":9000000000000432,"idStr":"9000000000000432","authorId":9000000000000432,"name":"PagRobinson","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0965d3709fcccd732467fba87aa4ea6e","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9987779211,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Ha ha ha, a very interesting metaphor. I hope this will not happen.","text":"Ha ha ha, a very interesting metaphor. I hope this will not happen.","html":"Ha ha ha, a very interesting metaphor. I hope this will not happen."}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9987730417,"gmtCreate":1667987098040,"gmtModify":1676537994912,"author":{"id":"3578825237066036","authorId":"3578825237066036","name":"rayguy","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/014543af7576ed5edbcbdeffd50f27eb","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b073a07f77dbe6b3bec6b12311fde6bd","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3578825237066036","authorIdStr":"3578825237066036"},"htmlText":"Buy buy buy","listText":"Buy buy buy","text":"Buy buy buy","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9987730417","repostId":2281189119,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9987796064,"gmtCreate":1667984913058,"gmtModify":1676537994530,"author":{"id":"3557827170519828","authorId":"3557827170519828","name":"Yeahyeah","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ae58041562aacafaee66032c44c8dc37","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3557827170519828","authorIdStr":"3557827170519828"},"htmlText":"Sad. I kept DCA&nbsp;","listText":"Sad. I kept DCA&nbsp;","text":"Sad. I kept DCA","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9987796064","repostId":2281189119,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":104728080,"gmtCreate":1667989226248,"gmtModify":1667989239545,"authorId":3568957285760850,"author":{"id":3568957285760850,"idStr":"3568957285760850","authorId":3568957285760850,"name":"Greg2021","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9987796064,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Great job. DCA rules!","text":"Great job. DCA rules!","html":"Great job. 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