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  CDL total asset is 24B and fair value is 33B from their recent report.
  Is City Developments (SGX:C09) Using Too Much Debt?
  Warren Buffett famously said, 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' When we think about how risky a company...
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  CDL has good of list of properties which can be sold to lower debt if they want to. Higher debt also help them to lower the tax payment.
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  ·01-09
  ‌$Alibaba(09988)$ ‌China has great potential. Baba is a bargain again.
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  ·2023-12-11
  ‌$HSI(HSI)$ ‌below 16000 soon ?
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  ‌$Alibaba(09988)$ ‌Hitting 52 weeks low at 58.6 soon ?
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  ‌$Alibaba(09988)$ ‌Back to Square one
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  ‌$AT&T Inc(T)$ ‌ATT has sufficent cash flow to pay for dividends ... just brought more .. do your DD before investing ...
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  ‌$Lumen Technologies(LUMN)$ ‌Blackrock brought 34M share in March ... no one mentioned it ...
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  ‌$Alibaba(09988)$ ‌Up 13% ... unlock value in Baba ... Finnaly Baba slays the nay sayer ....
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By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return.  The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together. </p> <p><span> View our latest analysis for City Developments </span></p><h2> How Much Debt Does City Developments Carry? </h2><p> The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that at December 2023 City Developments had debt of S$11.6b, up from S$9.85b in one year.    However, it does have S$2.42b in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about S$9.21b.  </p><figure><img height=\"526\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://images.simplywall.st/asset/chart/410611-debt-equity-history-analysis-1-dark/1711070147976\" width=\"821\"/><figcaption>SGX:C09 Debt to Equity History March 22nd 2024</figcaption></figure><h2> How Healthy Is City Developments' Balance Sheet? </h2><p> The latest balance sheet data shows that City Developments had liabilities of S$5.71b due within a year, and liabilities of S$8.99b falling due after that.   Offsetting this, it had S$2.42b in cash and S$2.62b in receivables that were due within 12 months.   So its liabilities total S$9.65b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.  </p><p> This deficit casts a shadow over the S$5.32b company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals.   So we definitely think shareholders need to watch this one closely.  At the end of the day, City Developments would probably need a major re-capitalization if its creditors were to demand repayment.  </p> <p> We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short).  This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it. </p> <p> City Developments shareholders face the double whammy of a high net debt to EBITDA ratio (10.0), and fairly weak interest coverage, since EBIT is just 1.9 times the interest expense.  This means we'd consider it to have a heavy debt load.        However, it should be some comfort for shareholders to recall that City Developments actually grew its EBIT by a hefty 204%, over the last 12 months.  If that earnings trend continues it will make its debt load much more manageable in the future.      There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet.  But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine City Developments's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward.  So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.  </p><p> Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it.   So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow.    Over the last three years, City Developments actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT.  There's nothing better than incoming cash when it comes to staying in your lenders' good graces.   </p> <h2>Our View</h2><p> While City Developments's level of total liabilities has us nervous.   For example, its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow and EBIT growth rate give us some confidence in its ability to manage its debt.        When we consider all the factors discussed, it seems to us that City Developments is taking some risks with its use of debt.  So while that leverage does boost returns on equity, we wouldn't really want to see it increase from here.    The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt.  But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet.   These risks can be hard to spot. Every company has them, and we've spotted  <strong> 3 warning signs for City Developments </strong>  (of which 1 is potentially serious!) you should know about.    </p> <p> At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free. </p><div><h3>Valuation is complex, but we're helping make it simple.</h3><p>Find out whether City Developments is potentially over or undervalued by checking out our comprehensive analysis, which includes <strong>fair value estimates, risks and warnings, dividends, insider transactions and financial health.</strong></p>View the Free Analysis</div><p><strong>Have feedback on this article? Concerned about the content?</strong> <strong>Get in touch</strong><strong> with us directly.</strong><i> Alternatively, email editorial-team (at) simplywallst.com.</i><i>This article by Simply Wall St is general in nature. <strong>We provide commentary based on historical data and analyst forecasts only using an unbiased methodology and our articles are not intended to be financial advice.</strong> It does not constitute a recommendation to buy or sell any stock, and does not take account of your objectives, or your financial situation. 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When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/real-estate-management-and-development/sgx-c09/city-developments-shares/news/is-city-developments-sgxc09-using-too-much-debt-2\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://images.simplywall.st/asset/industry/7312000-choice2-main-header/1585186669177","relate_stocks":{"CHCO":"City Holding Company","SG9999000475.SGD":"Aberdeen Standard Singapore Equity SGD","SG9999000343.SGD":"Schroder Singapore Trust A Dis SGD","BK6512":"房地产股","BK6098":"多样化房地产活动","SG9999016042.SGD":"Schroder Singapore Trust A Acc SGD","BK4211":"区域性银行","C09.SI":"城市发展"},"source_url":"https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/real-estate-management-and-development/sgx-c09/city-developments-shares/news/is-city-developments-sgxc09-using-too-much-debt-2","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2421831305","content_text":"Warren Buffett famously said, 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.'  When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin.  We can see that City Developments Limited (SGX:C09) does use debt in its business.  But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.  When Is Debt Dangerous?  Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy.  Ultimately, if the company can't fulfill its legal obligations to repay debt, shareholders could walk away with nothing.  While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price.  By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return.  The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.   View our latest analysis for City Developments  How Much Debt Does City Developments Carry?  The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that at December 2023 City Developments had debt of S$11.6b, up from S$9.85b in one year.    However, it does have S$2.42b in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about S$9.21b.  SGX:C09 Debt to Equity History March 22nd 2024 How Healthy Is City Developments' Balance Sheet?  The latest balance sheet data shows that City Developments had liabilities of S$5.71b due within a year, and liabilities of S$8.99b falling due after that.   Offsetting this, it had S$2.42b in cash and S$2.62b in receivables that were due within 12 months.   So its liabilities total S$9.65b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.   This deficit casts a shadow over the S$5.32b company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals.   So we definitely think shareholders need to watch this one closely.  At the end of the day, City Developments would probably need a major re-capitalization if its creditors were to demand repayment.    We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short).  This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.   City Developments shareholders face the double whammy of a high net debt to EBITDA ratio (10.0), and fairly weak interest coverage, since EBIT is just 1.9 times the interest expense.  This means we'd consider it to have a heavy debt load.        However, it should be some comfort for shareholders to recall that City Developments actually grew its EBIT by a hefty 204%, over the last 12 months.  If that earnings trend continues it will make its debt load much more manageable in the future.      There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet.  But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine City Developments's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward.  So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.   Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it.   So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow.    Over the last three years, City Developments actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT.  There's nothing better than incoming cash when it comes to staying in your lenders' good graces.    Our View While City Developments's level of total liabilities has us nervous.   For example, its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow and EBIT growth rate give us some confidence in its ability to manage its debt.        When we consider all the factors discussed, it seems to us that City Developments is taking some risks with its use of debt.  So while that leverage does boost returns on equity, we wouldn't really want to see it increase from here.    The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt.  But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet.   These risks can be hard to spot. Every company has them, and we've spotted   3 warning signs for City Developments   (of which 1 is potentially serious!) you should know about.      At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free. Valuation is complex, but we're helping make it simple.Find out whether City Developments is potentially over or undervalued by checking out our comprehensive analysis, which includes fair value estimates, risks and warnings, dividends, insider transactions and financial health.View the Free AnalysisHave feedback on this article? Concerned about the content? Get in touch with us directly. Alternatively, email editorial-team (at) simplywallst.com.This article by Simply Wall St is general in nature. We provide commentary based on historical data and analyst forecasts only using an unbiased methodology and our articles are not intended to be financial advice. It does not constitute a recommendation to buy or sell any stock, and does not take account of your objectives, or your financial situation. We aim to bring you long-term focused analysis driven by fundamental data. Note that our analysis may not factor in the latest price-sensitive company announcements or qualitative material. 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