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- yamehyamehyamehyameh
  ·2022-03-04
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  Palantir: Cathie Wood Sells, Maybe Buffett Will Buy
  SummaryPalantir’s stock has fallen to fair value territory.Palantir is a Buffett worthy stock with a
  Palantir: Cathie Wood Sells, Maybe Buffett Will Buy
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- yamehyamehyamehyameh
  ·2021-02-25
  This is flying under the radar
  BRIEF-Sos Announces Receipt Of The Second Batch Of 5000 Pieces Of Crypto Mining Rigs
  Feb 24 (Reuters) - Sos Ltd : * SOS ANNOUNCES THE RECEIPT OF THE SECOND BATCH OF 5000 PIECES OF C
  BRIEF-Sos Announces Receipt Of The Second Batch Of 5000 Pieces Of Crypto Mining Rigs
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- yamehyamehyamehyameh
  ·2021-02-25
  So salty
  UPDATE 1-Charlie Munger warns of market excesses, frowns on gambling mentality and bitcoin
  (Adds additional comments from Munger) By Jonathan Stempel Feb 24 (Reuters) - Charlie Munger, th
  UPDATE 1-Charlie Munger warns of market excesses, frowns on gambling mentality and bitcoin
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- yamehyamehyamehyameh
  ·2021-02-13
  Outside of Jesse Stine’s book, this is d only place where I see somebody effectively communicate the most important metrics to assess a company’s value
  Here's the formula for spotting genuinely undervalued companies, claims this investment house
  The growth stock vs. value stock dichotomy doesn't make sense, says ValuAnalysis. For most of 2020, investors poured money into names like online retailer Amazon $$, electric-car maker Tesla $$, and e-commerce platform Shopify -- "growth" stocks that kept indexes afloat in a turbulent year that hammered share prices across the board.But when news broke in early November 2020 that drug company Pfizer $$ and its partner BioNTech $$ had developed an effective vaccine against COVID-19, something pro
  Here's the formula for spotting genuinely undervalued companies, claims this investment house
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This has its disadvantages, sure, but it also creates long-lasting relationships and sticky revenues.</p><p>Lastly, Palantir&#39;s main clients are government agencies, which also makes for a steady stream of revenues, and the more they use Palantir, the more dependent they are on it.</p><p>Proof of these last two points can be found in the growth in value in government contracts, and net dollar retention.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c43cafdb656d7001edc702a67570b742\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"675\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Government momentum (Investor Presentation) Source:Investor Presentation</span></p><p><b>Balance Sheet and Cash Flows</b></p><p>People often complain about Palantir&#39;s high stock-based compensation, but this has allowed Palantir to have a really strong balance sheet even without turning a profit. Palantir has over $2.5 billion in cash and only $260 million in debt. Furthermore, it has a current and quick ratio of over 4. Palantir has plenty of cash and is operating close to break-even. In an environment where rates are rising, a company without a big reliance on debt becomes more attractive.</p><p>Most importantly though, Palantir has seen strong cash flow growth in 2021.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6b30587f18390a259d40df45c463ca10\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"603\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Cash flow/growth comparison (Investor Presentation) Source:Investor Presentation</span></p><p>With revenue growth of 41%, and a cash flow margin of 28%, Palantir looks like a compelling investment when compared to peers. Palantir&#39;s profitability is hurt by SBC, but this is a cost that can be wound down. Operating margins are positive and growing, and it is easy to forecast profitability in Palantir&#39;s future.</p><p><b>Forecast and Valuation</b></p><p>Now I am going to walk through a valuation for Palantir based on a 10-year forecast, which is based on yearly figures from 2018 to 2021. We will use the forecast to determine earnings per share in 10 years, and based on growth and balance sheet solidity, we will estimate a price to earnings ratio to complete a forecasted price. The price will be discounted to obtain our target price for the present.</p><p>We use a discount rate based on the likelihood of the forecast. This depends on the smoothness of the trends we use to make the forecast, and how much growth is needed to achieve it. If the forecast is based on irregular trends that make the future harder to predict and it implies a lot of growth, making it harder to achieve, we will require a better return and therefore use a higher discount rate.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s revenue has evolved very smoothly over the four years in question. The revenue growth has followed a polynomial trend, meaning the growth in absolute terms is higher each year, but the growth rate falls as the revenue grows. This is the most common pattern for relatively young high-growth companies.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6915c630b9ebd4fda2714f72ac14013c\" tg-width=\"975\" tg-height=\"586\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Revenue (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions.</span></p><p>The revenue predicted by this trend is approximately $14.5bn by 2031, as you can see in the chart above.</p><p>The next thing we are looking at is the cost items. These are divided into cost of revenues, SG&amp;A expense and R&amp;D expense. The first, cost of revenues, is the most optimistic part of this forecast. This is because the most fitting trend for how much this cost is relative to revenue is logarithmic. This means that the relative cost should fall as revenue grows. You can see this in the chart below:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1126693797c0a9f6473ba8866528d6d6\" tg-width=\"975\" tg-height=\"586\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Cost of Revenue (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions.</span></p><p>A similar thing happens when you look at SG&amp;A expenses, although in this case, the trend is closer to a linear one:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7253107435bebba1df855203b3444d02\" tg-width=\"975\" tg-height=\"586\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>SG&amp;A (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions.</span></p><p>And finally, we have R&amp;D expenses. These follow a weak linear trend:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aa3e22d84f70d81705259e7fb033f73f\" tg-width=\"975\" tg-height=\"586\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>R&amp;D (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions.</span></p><p>As you can see, while the revenue is smooth, the trends related to costs are weaker. This means the earnings forecast loses some degree of confidence and this will affect the discount rate we apply to the valuation. You can see here the complete forecast for the operating income figures in 1, 5 and 10 years.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f22c3370be3d3857f0546c2e79c29d02\" tg-width=\"717\" tg-height=\"187\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Forecast (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions.</span></p><p>The next point is the balance sheet. Without going into every single detail, I want to illustrate how we forecast the net invested capital will behave about sales in the future. Net invested capital is the sum of all assets that are not cash or financial investments, minus all liabilities which are not debt.</p><p>So far, this item has evolved in an almost linear relation with revenue. This is what we are going to assume for the next few years. You can see this relation in the chart below.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d89c52eb0c7ecc90a4ef2890025f626a\" tg-width=\"975\" tg-height=\"587\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>NIC (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions.</span></p><p>To complete the summarized balance sheet, we are assuming that there will continue to be no dividend and earnings will be accumulated into equity. Soon, we assume the company will also continue to increase its number of shares while this is necessary to maintain a similar relation between equity and sales volume. Here is our forecast for the basic balance sheet items:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8bcebbf669e0a945a21dbebe4104f356\" tg-width=\"717\" tg-height=\"162\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Forecast (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work. Items in $millions or millions of shares.</span></p><p>You can see that we are predicting that as it has done now, Palantir will require relatively little investment, and will hold an extremely secure balance sheet, with insignificant debt and plenty of cash and financial investments.</p><p>Finally, we are going into the actual valuation. Although our forecasting method has a little more to it, I have explained the most important points for this particular company. Now it is time to go into the actual valuation. With an EPS figure of $2.24 in 2031, a PE ratio of 27, and a discount rate of 15%, we value PLTR shares at $14.77 today.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/082b2cffab949c6718c68c4e85db4204\" tg-width=\"514\" tg-height=\"242\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>Valuation (Author&#39;s work) Source: Author&#39;s work</span></p><p>For estimating the PE ratio, we take into account that debt will be negative and in a significant amount. The sales growth at that point, according to our forecast, should be around 14% at that point. These two elements will drive the PE ratio higher than the average.</p><p>The discount rate is affected by the amount of growth we are assuming for the next 10 years, with a 25% CAGR over the whole period, and also by the fact that some of the trends we used to make the forecast were weaker than one would like. Overall, we are applying a 15% discount which is higher than average market returns.</p><p><b>Conclusion</b></p><p>All in all, Palantir seems to be trading somewhat below fair value. This provides investors with a fair margin of safety. The scenario laid out below is conservative, and Palantir could surprise investors with more explosive growth. 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(PLTR) is an innovative company, which has been touted by growth investors like Cathie Woods for its great technology. However, I see in Palantir something closer to a Buffett style stock. Palantir possesses many of the characteristics that the oracle of Omaha looks for in his investments. At today's price, Palantir is at worst fairly valued, which gives ample margin of safety.Palantir has a MoatOne very compelling reason to own Palantir is the fact that the business is well insulated from competition. I find this to be the case for three reasons.Firstly, the company's technology is way ahead of its peers. Foundry and Gotham's data analytics capabilities are best-in-class, and they get better the more they are used and the more data is collected. This is what has allowed Palantir to gain such important government contracts.Secondly, the nature of how Palantir does business makes the relationship with its customers sticky. Palantir doesn't simply deploy a one size fits all software solution. The company has engineers working side by side with its clients to address each project and use case. As I've talked about in previous articles, Palantir is similar in this way to a consulting company. This has its disadvantages, sure, but it also creates long-lasting relationships and sticky revenues.Lastly, Palantir's main clients are government agencies, which also makes for a steady stream of revenues, and the more they use Palantir, the more dependent they are on it.Proof of these last two points can be found in the growth in value in government contracts, and net dollar retention.Government momentum (Investor Presentation) Source:Investor PresentationBalance Sheet and Cash FlowsPeople often complain about Palantir's high stock-based compensation, but this has allowed Palantir to have a really strong balance sheet even without turning a profit. Palantir has over $2.5 billion in cash and only $260 million in debt. Furthermore, it has a current and quick ratio of over 4. Palantir has plenty of cash and is operating close to break-even. In an environment where rates are rising, a company without a big reliance on debt becomes more attractive.Most importantly though, Palantir has seen strong cash flow growth in 2021.Cash flow/growth comparison (Investor Presentation) Source:Investor PresentationWith revenue growth of 41%, and a cash flow margin of 28%, Palantir looks like a compelling investment when compared to peers. Palantir's profitability is hurt by SBC, but this is a cost that can be wound down. Operating margins are positive and growing, and it is easy to forecast profitability in Palantir's future.Forecast and ValuationNow I am going to walk through a valuation for Palantir based on a 10-year forecast, which is based on yearly figures from 2018 to 2021. We will use the forecast to determine earnings per share in 10 years, and based on growth and balance sheet solidity, we will estimate a price to earnings ratio to complete a forecasted price. The price will be discounted to obtain our target price for the present.We use a discount rate based on the likelihood of the forecast. This depends on the smoothness of the trends we use to make the forecast, and how much growth is needed to achieve it. If the forecast is based on irregular trends that make the future harder to predict and it implies a lot of growth, making it harder to achieve, we will require a better return and therefore use a higher discount rate.Palantir's revenue has evolved very smoothly over the four years in question. The revenue growth has followed a polynomial trend, meaning the growth in absolute terms is higher each year, but the growth rate falls as the revenue grows. This is the most common pattern for relatively young high-growth companies.Revenue (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions.The revenue predicted by this trend is approximately $14.5bn by 2031, as you can see in the chart above.The next thing we are looking at is the cost items. These are divided into cost of revenues, SG&A expense and R&D expense. The first, cost of revenues, is the most optimistic part of this forecast. This is because the most fitting trend for how much this cost is relative to revenue is logarithmic. This means that the relative cost should fall as revenue grows. You can see this in the chart below:Cost of Revenue (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions.A similar thing happens when you look at SG&A expenses, although in this case, the trend is closer to a linear one:SG&A (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions.And finally, we have R&D expenses. These follow a weak linear trend:R&D (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions.As you can see, while the revenue is smooth, the trends related to costs are weaker. This means the earnings forecast loses some degree of confidence and this will affect the discount rate we apply to the valuation. You can see here the complete forecast for the operating income figures in 1, 5 and 10 years.Forecast (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions.The next point is the balance sheet. Without going into every single detail, I want to illustrate how we forecast the net invested capital will behave about sales in the future. Net invested capital is the sum of all assets that are not cash or financial investments, minus all liabilities which are not debt.So far, this item has evolved in an almost linear relation with revenue. This is what we are going to assume for the next few years. You can see this relation in the chart below.NIC (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions.To complete the summarized balance sheet, we are assuming that there will continue to be no dividend and earnings will be accumulated into equity. Soon, we assume the company will also continue to increase its number of shares while this is necessary to maintain a similar relation between equity and sales volume. Here is our forecast for the basic balance sheet items:Forecast (Author's work) Source: Author's work. Items in $millions or millions of shares.You can see that we are predicting that as it has done now, Palantir will require relatively little investment, and will hold an extremely secure balance sheet, with insignificant debt and plenty of cash and financial investments.Finally, we are going into the actual valuation. Although our forecasting method has a little more to it, I have explained the most important points for this particular company. Now it is time to go into the actual valuation. With an EPS figure of $2.24 in 2031, a PE ratio of 27, and a discount rate of 15%, we value PLTR shares at $14.77 today.Valuation (Author's work) Source: Author's workFor estimating the PE ratio, we take into account that debt will be negative and in a significant amount. The sales growth at that point, according to our forecast, should be around 14% at that point. These two elements will drive the PE ratio higher than the average.The discount rate is affected by the amount of growth we are assuming for the next 10 years, with a 25% CAGR over the whole period, and also by the fact that some of the trends we used to make the forecast were weaker than one would like. Overall, we are applying a 15% discount which is higher than average market returns.ConclusionAll in all, Palantir seems to be trading somewhat below fair value. This provides investors with a fair margin of safety. The scenario laid out below is conservative, and Palantir could surprise investors with more explosive growth. 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The Daily Journal meeting was webcast on Yahoo Finance.</p><p>   Munger said the recent surge in the share price of GameStop Corp   , which left some hedge funds caught in a short squeeze because they bet on a decline, reflected a horse-racing mentality toward stocks.</p><p>   \"It's really stupid to have a culture\" encouraging such gambling in stocks, calling the frenzied buying of stocks only because prices are rising \"a very dangerous way to invest.\"</p><p>   Asked if the market now might suffer the same fate as the technology bubble from the late 1990s, Munger said: \"Yes, I think it must end badly, but I don't know when.\"</p><p>   Munger also addressed other topics, including the surging interest in bitcoin, which he would not own.</p><p>   \"I don't think bitcoin is going to end up as the medium of exchange for the world\" because it's too volatile, Munger said.</p><p>   He paraphrased the author Oscar Wilde's quotation about fox hunting to describe bitcoin, calling it \"the pursuit of the uneatable by the unspeakable.\"</p><p>   Berkshire is expected on Saturday to release its fourth-quarter and year-end results, and Buffett's widely read annual shareholder letter.    </p><p> (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; 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The Daily Journal meeting was webcast on Yahoo Finance.</p><p>   Munger said the recent surge in the share price of GameStop Corp   , which left some hedge funds caught in a short squeeze because they bet on a decline, reflected a horse-racing mentality toward stocks.</p><p>   \"It's really stupid to have a culture\" encouraging such gambling in stocks, calling the frenzied buying of stocks only because prices are rising \"a very dangerous way to invest.\"</p><p>   Asked if the market now might suffer the same fate as the technology bubble from the late 1990s, Munger said: \"Yes, I think it must end badly, but I don't know when.\"</p><p>   Munger also addressed other topics, including the surging interest in bitcoin, which he would not own.</p><p>   \"I don't think bitcoin is going to end up as the medium of exchange for the world\" because it's too volatile, Munger said.</p><p>   He paraphrased the author Oscar Wilde's quotation about fox hunting to describe bitcoin, calling it \"the pursuit of the uneatable by the unspeakable.\"</p><p>   Berkshire is expected on Saturday to release its fourth-quarter and year-end results, and Buffett's widely read annual shareholder letter.    </p><p> (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Richard Chang)</p><p>((jon.stempel@thomsonreuters.com; +1 646 223 6317; Reuters Messaging: jon.stempel.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GME":"游戏驿站","DJCO":"每日期刊","BRK.A":"伯克希尔","BRK.B":"伯克希尔B"},"source_url":"http://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2114959973","content_text":"(Adds additional comments from Munger)   By Jonathan Stempel   Feb 24 (Reuters) - Charlie Munger, the longtime business partner of Warren Buffett, on Wednesday suggested the stock market environment bears signs of a bubble, reflecting a \"dangerous\" mentality among some investors to gamble on stocks as they would horse races.   Munger, 97, was speaking at the annual meeting of Daily Journal Corp   , the Los Angeles newspaper publishing company he chairs.   He remains better known for his work at Buffett's conglomerate Berkshire Hathaway Inc   , where he has been vice chairman since 1978. The Daily Journal meeting was webcast on Yahoo Finance.   Munger said the recent surge in the share price of GameStop Corp   , which left some hedge funds caught in a short squeeze because they bet on a decline, reflected a horse-racing mentality toward stocks.   \"It's really stupid to have a culture\" encouraging such gambling in stocks, calling the frenzied buying of stocks only because prices are rising \"a very dangerous way to invest.\"   Asked if the market now might suffer the same fate as the technology bubble from the late 1990s, Munger said: \"Yes, I think it must end badly, but I don't know when.\"   Munger also addressed other topics, including the surging interest in bitcoin, which he would not own.   \"I don't think bitcoin is going to end up as the medium of exchange for the world\" because it's too volatile, Munger said.   He paraphrased the author Oscar Wilde's quotation about fox hunting to describe bitcoin, calling it \"the pursuit of the uneatable by the unspeakable.\"   Berkshire is expected on Saturday to release its fourth-quarter and year-end results, and Buffett's widely read annual shareholder letter.     (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Richard Chang)((jon.stempel@thomsonreuters.com; +1 646 223 6317; Reuters Messaging: jon.stempel.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":307,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":386692191,"gmtCreate":1613166531513,"gmtModify":1704879123912,"author":{"id":"3572479202521048","authorId":"3572479202521048","name":"yamehyameh","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b5de4272524458e6978f0edcc187aab0","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572479202521048","authorIdStr":"3572479202521048"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Outside of Jesse Stine’s book, this is d only place where I see somebody effectively communicate the most important metrics to assess a company’s value","listText":"Outside of Jesse Stine’s book, this is d only place where I see somebody effectively communicate the most important metrics to assess a company’s value","text":"Outside of Jesse Stine’s book, this is d only place where I see somebody effectively communicate the most important metrics to assess a company’s value","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/386692191","repostId":"2110026963","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2110026963","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1613109422,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2110026963?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-02-12 13:57","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Here's the formula for spotting genuinely undervalued companies, claims this investment house","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2110026963","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"The growth stock vs. value stock dichotomy doesn't make sense, says ValuAnalysis. For most of 2020, investors poured money into names like online retailer Amazon $$, electric-car maker Tesla $$, and e-commerce platform Shopify -- \"growth\" stocks that kept indexes afloat in a turbulent year that hammered share prices across the board.But when news broke in early November 2020 that drug company Pfizer $$ and its partner BioNTech $$ had developed an effective vaccine against COVID-19, something pro","content":"<p>MW Here's the formula for spotting genuinely undervalued companies, claims this investment house</p>\n<p>The growth stock vs. value stock dichotomy doesn't make sense, says ValuAnalysis</p>\n<p>For most of 2020, investors poured money into names like online retailer Amazon <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, electric-car maker Tesla <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a>, and e-commerce platform Shopify (SHOP.T)-- \"growth\" stocks that kept indexes afloat in a turbulent year that hammered share prices across the board.</p>\n<p>But when news broke in early November 2020 that drug company Pfizer <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PFE\">$(PFE)$</a> and its partner BioNTech <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BNTX\">$(BNTX)$</a> had developed an effective vaccine against COVID-19, something profound happened in financial markets.</p>\n<p>Investors rotated out of these investments in favor of \"value\" stocks hammered by the COVID-19 pandemic, like airlines.</p>\n<p>This rotation was based on an essential concept in investing: There are some stocks that are clearly undervalued based on standard metrics.</p>\n<p>And it is completely flawed, according to research from ValuAnalysis, a London-based fund manager and equity investment boutique, which specializes in valuation.</p>\n<p>The apparent difference between growth stocks and value stocks is that the former is overvalued based on fundamental metrics while the latter is undervalued.</p>\n<p>\"Everyone knows that this thing doesn't make any sense because growth is not the opposite of value,\" Pascal Costantini, who led the research at ValuAnalysis, tells MarketWatch.</p>\n<p>\"It should be high-growth and low-growth, and I can imagine that, somewhere in an office, some guy said 'well this is not catchy enough, so how about growth and value?'\"</p>\n<p>Analysts and investors use metrics like the price-to-earnings ratio, or price multiple, to value stocks. ValuAnalysis uses price as a multiple of normalized net free cash flow as its benchmark, and identifies the imaginary dividing line between value and growth stocks at 35x, which is the market median.</p>\n<p>The value vs. growth divide would suggest that a company trading at a 17x earnings multiple is undervalued. In reality, ValuAnalysis says it is likely a company that won't grow.</p>\n<p>In reality, a stock's value is based on the company's ability to grow free cash flow in an environment where the cost of capital is 5% to 6%. So if a company isn't outpacing that by improving revenue and margins, the multiple won't increase and the stock price is unlikely to rise.</p>\n<p>Stocks that are actually undervalued will trade between 25x and 35x free cash flow, Costantini says, outpacing the cost of capital but not breaking past the market median.</p>\n<p>To have potential, a company's accumulation of assets or revenue growth must outpace increases in global gross domestic product, and ideally show signs of accelerating. There must also be an increase in operational leverage through revenue or margins. A decrease in the risk premium, such as through advances in controlling carbon emissions, helps.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Here's the formula for spotting genuinely undervalued companies, claims this investment house</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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ValuAnalysis uses price as a multiple of normalized net free cash flow as its benchmark, and identifies the imaginary dividing line between value and growth stocks at 35x, which is the market median.</p>\n<p>The value vs. growth divide would suggest that a company trading at a 17x earnings multiple is undervalued. In reality, ValuAnalysis says it is likely a company that won't grow.</p>\n<p>In reality, a stock's value is based on the company's ability to grow free cash flow in an environment where the cost of capital is 5% to 6%. So if a company isn't outpacing that by improving revenue and margins, the multiple won't increase and the stock price is unlikely to rise.</p>\n<p>Stocks that are actually undervalued will trade between 25x and 35x free cash flow, Costantini says, outpacing the cost of capital but not breaking past the market median.</p>\n<p>To have potential, a company's accumulation of assets or revenue growth must outpace increases in global gross domestic product, and ideally show signs of accelerating. There must also be an increase in operational leverage through revenue or margins. A decrease in the risk premium, such as through advances in controlling carbon emissions, helps.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15e20574f8fb568333181d61bb200086","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","AMZN":"亚马逊","PFE":"辉瑞"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2110026963","content_text":"MW Here's the formula for spotting genuinely undervalued companies, claims this investment house\nThe growth stock vs. value stock dichotomy doesn't make sense, says ValuAnalysis\nFor most of 2020, investors poured money into names like online retailer Amazon $(AMZN)$, electric-car maker Tesla $(TSLA)$, and e-commerce platform Shopify (SHOP.T)-- \"growth\" stocks that kept indexes afloat in a turbulent year that hammered share prices across the board.\nBut when news broke in early November 2020 that drug company Pfizer $(PFE)$ and its partner BioNTech $(BNTX)$ had developed an effective vaccine against COVID-19, something profound happened in financial markets.\nInvestors rotated out of these investments in favor of \"value\" stocks hammered by the COVID-19 pandemic, like airlines.\nThis rotation was based on an essential concept in investing: There are some stocks that are clearly undervalued based on standard metrics.\nAnd it is completely flawed, according to research from ValuAnalysis, a London-based fund manager and equity investment boutique, which specializes in valuation.\nThe apparent difference between growth stocks and value stocks is that the former is overvalued based on fundamental metrics while the latter is undervalued.\n\"Everyone knows that this thing doesn't make any sense because growth is not the opposite of value,\" Pascal Costantini, who led the research at ValuAnalysis, tells MarketWatch.\n\"It should be high-growth and low-growth, and I can imagine that, somewhere in an office, some guy said 'well this is not catchy enough, so how about growth and value?'\"\nAnalysts and investors use metrics like the price-to-earnings ratio, or price multiple, to value stocks. ValuAnalysis uses price as a multiple of normalized net free cash flow as its benchmark, and identifies the imaginary dividing line between value and growth stocks at 35x, which is the market median.\nThe value vs. growth divide would suggest that a company trading at a 17x earnings multiple is undervalued. In reality, ValuAnalysis says it is likely a company that won't grow.\nIn reality, a stock's value is based on the company's ability to grow free cash flow in an environment where the cost of capital is 5% to 6%. So if a company isn't outpacing that by improving revenue and margins, the multiple won't increase and the stock price is unlikely to rise.\nStocks that are actually undervalued will trade between 25x and 35x free cash flow, Costantini says, outpacing the cost of capital but not breaking past the market median.\nTo have potential, a company's accumulation of assets or revenue growth must outpace increases in global gross domestic product, and ideally show signs of accelerating. There must also be an increase in operational leverage through revenue or margins. A decrease in the risk premium, such as through advances in controlling carbon emissions, helps.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":262,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}