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- LanXanaLanXana
  ·2022-01-15
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  Are Electric Vehicle Stocks Overhyped?
  The short answer: Almost definitely.
  Are Electric Vehicle Stocks Overhyped?
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  ·2021-12-31
  Happy new year 🥳🎉🎆
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  ·2021-06-23
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- LanXanaLanXana
  ·2021-06-23
  Like pls
  Quality stocks haven't been this cheap in more than 20 years
  Quality is on sale in the stock market. Higher quality stocks are trading at their largest valuation
  Quality stocks haven't been this cheap in more than 20 years
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  ·2021-06-23
  $SeaChange(SEAC)$Finally seeing positive!
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  ·2021-06-05
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  ·2021-06-05
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  Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes
  Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:. Alibaba Group'
  Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes
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  ·2021-06-03
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  ·2021-06-02
  $BlackBerry(BB)$Go go go boy!!! 20 ???
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From <b>Rivian</b> (NASDAQ:RIVN) at a $76 billion market cap with no revenue to <b>Tesla</b> (NASDAQ:TSLA) breaching a $1.1 trillion market cap when it was valued under $100 billion less than three years ago, many investors are bullish on the opportunity in electric vehicles.</p><p>And why wouldn&#39;t they be? The industry is growing quickly, up 26% year over year from 2020, and is going after a gigantic market opportunity in the worldwide car market. But just because these stocks are in a large, growing industry doesn&#39;t mean they will be great investments over the next decade. Just ask <b>Cisco Systems</b> investors who bought stock in 1999 and 2000.</p><p>Are electric vehicle stocks overhyped? Yes. Let me explain why.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/90344f91dac6378d78934846de60ce59\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"465\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Image source: Getty Images.</span></p><h2>Growth is strong, and the market opportunity is massive</h2><p>To start out, let&#39;s give some context around the global opportunity in electric vehicles and the overall automotive industry. In 2021, it is estimated that 6.4 million electric vehicles (EVs) were sold around the world, of which 4 million of these were all-electric and 2.4 million plug-in hybrids. That total number is up 26% from 2020.</p><p>In 2022, analysts are actually expecting this growth to accelerate due to the number of models being available in the U.S. jumping from 62 to 100. If that is the case, global annual sales for electric vehicles should hit 10 million in the near future. For reference, 66 million total cars are estimated to have been sold around the world in 2021.</p><p>Those are all high-level numbers, but what about the financial opportunity? Assuming an average selling price of $25,000, 10 million EV sales would equate to $250 billion in annual sales. At 50 million EVs, which assumes they take over the majority of the auto market, that equates to $1.25 trillion in sales. Clearly, the opportunity is massive from a revenue standpoint.</p><h2>Margins will be low</h2><p>While the revenue opportunity for EVs is large, these manufacturing businesses also have low margins. For example, let&#39;s look at <b>Toyota </b>(NYSE:TM), the largest automaker in the world, with an estimated 8.5% market share in 2019. Over the last 12 months, the company has brought in $281 billion in revenue. On that revenue, only $31 billion turned into operating income, or an 11% operating margin.</p><p>Tesla, the biggest pure-play EV maker, is seeing just shy of 10% operating margins on $47 billion in revenue. Given the reduction in manufacturing complications of a battery pack versus an internal combustion engine, EV makers may achieve better operating margins than 11% at scale. But they still require bending metal to succeed, so the likelihood they will be much higher than 11% on average over the long term seems unlikely.</p><p>What&#39;s more, automotive businesses require tons of capital expenditures relative to their sales just to stay afloat. For example, Toyota spent almost $35 billion on capital investments over the last 12 months. Given its profit margins, that makes it very difficult for the company to return excess cash to shareholders -- which is the <i>only</i> driver of shareholder value in the long run. This is why Toyota&#39;s stock historically trades at a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio at or around 10. And EV stocks will have a similar fate due to this capital intensity.</p><h2>Expectations are too high</h2><p>Let&#39;s move back to our revenue example. If annual EV sales reach $1.25 trillion and we assign a generous 15% operating margin across the industry, there will be $180 billion in annual operating income once EV sales hit 50 million a year. Remember, sales are currently at only 6.4 million, including plug-in hybrids, so this is a long way off. On that $180 billion in operating income, if you give it a 21% corporate tax rate, that is $142.2 billion in annual net income across the industry.</p><p>Put an average P/E of 10 (remember, this is typical for automotive companies because of the capital intensity) on the stocks, and you have $1.42 trillion in combined market value once EVs reach maturity. Looking at the five pure-play EV stocks right now, which are Tesla, Rivian, <b>Lucid Motors </b>(NASDAQ:LCID), <b>Nio </b>(NYSE:NIO), and <b>Xpeng </b>(NYSE:XPEV), their combined market caps are <i>currently</i> $1.34 trillion, or pretty darn close to what the whole industry will be worth at maturity with optimistic margin and growth assumptions.</p><p>And this doesn&#39;t include the legacy automakers like Toyota, <b>Ford Motor Company</b>, <b>GM</b>, and <b>Volkswagen</b>, which are all making major investments into EVs. Assuming none of these legacy manufacturers will at least capture some of the $1.42 trillion market value is naive, in my opinion.</p><p>Given all these numbers, it is clear that the electric vehicle market is overhyped. If you are invested in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> of these companies, or even a legacy automaker, you need to be confident in that specific company&#39;s ability to win market share and beat all these competitors. 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From Rivian (NASDAQ:RIVN) at a $76 billion market cap with no revenue to Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) breaching a $1.1 trillion market cap when it was valued under $100 billion less than three years ago, many investors are bullish on the opportunity in electric vehicles.And why wouldn't they be? The industry is growing quickly, up 26% year over year from 2020, and is going after a gigantic market opportunity in the worldwide car market. But just because these stocks are in a large, growing industry doesn't mean they will be great investments over the next decade. Just ask Cisco Systems investors who bought stock in 1999 and 2000.Are electric vehicle stocks overhyped? Yes. Let me explain why.Image source: Getty Images.Growth is strong, and the market opportunity is massiveTo start out, let's give some context around the global opportunity in electric vehicles and the overall automotive industry. In 2021, it is estimated that 6.4 million electric vehicles (EVs) were sold around the world, of which 4 million of these were all-electric and 2.4 million plug-in hybrids. That total number is up 26% from 2020.In 2022, analysts are actually expecting this growth to accelerate due to the number of models being available in the U.S. jumping from 62 to 100. If that is the case, global annual sales for electric vehicles should hit 10 million in the near future. For reference, 66 million total cars are estimated to have been sold around the world in 2021.Those are all high-level numbers, but what about the financial opportunity? Assuming an average selling price of $25,000, 10 million EV sales would equate to $250 billion in annual sales. At 50 million EVs, which assumes they take over the majority of the auto market, that equates to $1.25 trillion in sales. Clearly, the opportunity is massive from a revenue standpoint.Margins will be lowWhile the revenue opportunity for EVs is large, these manufacturing businesses also have low margins. For example, let's look at Toyota (NYSE:TM), the largest automaker in the world, with an estimated 8.5% market share in 2019. Over the last 12 months, the company has brought in $281 billion in revenue. On that revenue, only $31 billion turned into operating income, or an 11% operating margin.Tesla, the biggest pure-play EV maker, is seeing just shy of 10% operating margins on $47 billion in revenue. Given the reduction in manufacturing complications of a battery pack versus an internal combustion engine, EV makers may achieve better operating margins than 11% at scale. But they still require bending metal to succeed, so the likelihood they will be much higher than 11% on average over the long term seems unlikely.What's more, automotive businesses require tons of capital expenditures relative to their sales just to stay afloat. For example, Toyota spent almost $35 billion on capital investments over the last 12 months. Given its profit margins, that makes it very difficult for the company to return excess cash to shareholders -- which is the only driver of shareholder value in the long run. This is why Toyota's stock historically trades at a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio at or around 10. And EV stocks will have a similar fate due to this capital intensity.Expectations are too highLet's move back to our revenue example. If annual EV sales reach $1.25 trillion and we assign a generous 15% operating margin across the industry, there will be $180 billion in annual operating income once EV sales hit 50 million a year. Remember, sales are currently at only 6.4 million, including plug-in hybrids, so this is a long way off. On that $180 billion in operating income, if you give it a 21% corporate tax rate, that is $142.2 billion in annual net income across the industry.Put an average P/E of 10 (remember, this is typical for automotive companies because of the capital intensity) on the stocks, and you have $1.42 trillion in combined market value once EVs reach maturity. Looking at the five pure-play EV stocks right now, which are Tesla, Rivian, Lucid Motors (NASDAQ:LCID), Nio (NYSE:NIO), and Xpeng (NYSE:XPEV), their combined market caps are currently $1.34 trillion, or pretty darn close to what the whole industry will be worth at maturity with optimistic margin and growth assumptions.And this doesn't include the legacy automakers like Toyota, Ford Motor Company, GM, and Volkswagen, which are all making major investments into EVs. Assuming none of these legacy manufacturers will at least capture some of the $1.42 trillion market value is naive, in my opinion.Given all these numbers, it is clear that the electric vehicle market is overhyped. If you are invested in one of these companies, or even a legacy automaker, you need to be confident in that specific company's ability to win market share and beat all these competitors. If that doesn't happen, it is likely your investment will go very poorly over the next decade.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":621,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9003826004,"gmtCreate":1640933196086,"gmtModify":1676533556666,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Happy new year 🥳🎉🎆","listText":"Happy new year 🥳🎉🎆","text":"Happy new year 🥳🎉🎆","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9003826004","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":508,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":123268604,"gmtCreate":1624425236908,"gmtModify":1703836304343,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"???","listText":"???","text":"???","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d2798706110f355bdc8839d997aa5e9f","width":"1125","height":"2590"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/123268604","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":520,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":123263448,"gmtCreate":1624425150284,"gmtModify":1703836301900,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Like pls","listText":"Like pls","text":"Like pls","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/123263448","repostId":"2145406595","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2145406595","pubTimestamp":1624424815,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2145406595?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-23 13:06","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Quality stocks haven't been this cheap in more than 20 years","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2145406595","media":"Yahoo Finance","summary":"Quality is on sale in the stock market.\nHigher quality stocks are trading at their largest valuation","content":"<p>Quality is on sale in the stock market.</p>\n<p>Higher quality stocks are trading at their largest valuation discount to the broad market since the dot com bubble of the early 2000s (see chart below), BlackRock CIO of U.S. fundamental equities Tony DeSpirito said in a new research note.</p>\n<p>DeSpirito defines high quality stocks as those of companies that generate profits and sport pricing power (so obviously, this excludes Special Purpose Acquisition Companies, or SPACs). The companies manage their balance sheets and cash flows effectively, demonstrate strong accounting credibility and return capital to shareholders in a disciplined manner (most likely through dividends).</p>\n<p>Interestingly, despite the impressive fundamental features of high quality companies the stocks themselves have sucked wind going on nine months.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/341275a727ddc7811ed0c3a6371003ad\" tg-width=\"1846\" tg-height=\"564\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Quality stocks look to be on sale, BlackRock contends.BlackRock</p>\n<p>DeSpirito's research shows that quality stocks have underperformed since COVID-19 vaccine announcements came to fore back in November 2020, sending their valuations lower. Instead of paying up to own quality companies amidst a global economic recovery (ones that could lift their dividends and share repurchase plans because of the macro rebound), investors have largely avoided or sold these stocks in favor of riskier bets that produced strong gains early in the recovery.</p>\n<p>A great example of this dynamic could be seen in the relative performance of the Invesco S&amp;P 500 High Beta ETF. Some of the ETF's top holdings include super risky economic recovery plays such as Carnival Corp. and United Airlines. The ETF has gained a very solid 31% year-to-date, outperforming the 13% increase in the S&amp;P 500. Meanwhile, the Schwab U.S. Dividend Equity ETF (which includes high quality dividend growers like Home Depot) is only up 17% on the year.</p>\n<p>Now, DeSpirito said the tide is about to swing back to quality.</p>\n<p>\"We see potential for quality to rerate higher. As the cycle evolves, the market will look ahead to more normalized growth rates, and investors are likely to grow more cautious amid concerns around taxes, inflation and the timing of a Fed policy shift,\" DeSpirito explained.</p>","source":"yahoofinance","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Quality stocks haven't been this cheap in more than 20 years</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nQuality stocks haven't been this cheap in more than 20 years\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-23 13:06 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/quality-stocks-havent-been-this-cheap-in-more-than-20-years-184255120.html><strong>Yahoo Finance</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Quality is on sale in the stock market.\nHigher quality stocks are trading at their largest valuation discount to the broad market since the dot com bubble of the early 2000s (see chart below), ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/quality-stocks-havent-been-this-cheap-in-more-than-20-years-184255120.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BLK":"贝莱德","CUK":"嘉年华存托凭证","SCHD":"Schwab US Dividend Equity ETF","HD":"家得宝","UAL":"联合大陆航空","CCL":"嘉年华邮轮"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/quality-stocks-havent-been-this-cheap-in-more-than-20-years-184255120.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5f26f4a48f9cb3e29be4d71d3ba8c038","article_id":"2145406595","content_text":"Quality is on sale in the stock market.\nHigher quality stocks are trading at their largest valuation discount to the broad market since the dot com bubble of the early 2000s (see chart below), BlackRock CIO of U.S. fundamental equities Tony DeSpirito said in a new research note.\nDeSpirito defines high quality stocks as those of companies that generate profits and sport pricing power (so obviously, this excludes Special Purpose Acquisition Companies, or SPACs). The companies manage their balance sheets and cash flows effectively, demonstrate strong accounting credibility and return capital to shareholders in a disciplined manner (most likely through dividends).\nInterestingly, despite the impressive fundamental features of high quality companies the stocks themselves have sucked wind going on nine months.\nQuality stocks look to be on sale, BlackRock contends.BlackRock\nDeSpirito's research shows that quality stocks have underperformed since COVID-19 vaccine announcements came to fore back in November 2020, sending their valuations lower. Instead of paying up to own quality companies amidst a global economic recovery (ones that could lift their dividends and share repurchase plans because of the macro rebound), investors have largely avoided or sold these stocks in favor of riskier bets that produced strong gains early in the recovery.\nA great example of this dynamic could be seen in the relative performance of the Invesco S&P 500 High Beta ETF. Some of the ETF's top holdings include super risky economic recovery plays such as Carnival Corp. and United Airlines. The ETF has gained a very solid 31% year-to-date, outperforming the 13% increase in the S&P 500. Meanwhile, the Schwab U.S. Dividend Equity ETF (which includes high quality dividend growers like Home Depot) is only up 17% on the year.\nNow, DeSpirito said the tide is about to swing back to quality.\n\"We see potential for quality to rerate higher. As the cycle evolves, the market will look ahead to more normalized growth rates, and investors are likely to grow more cautious amid concerns around taxes, inflation and the timing of a Fed policy shift,\" DeSpirito explained.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":349,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":123269326,"gmtCreate":1624425041565,"gmtModify":1703836299608,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SEAC\">$SeaChange(SEAC)$</a>Finally seeing positive!","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SEAC\">$SeaChange(SEAC)$</a>Finally seeing positive!","text":"$SeaChange(SEAC)$Finally seeing positive!","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/19b264722b6e4a56837b451040adb121","width":"1284","height":"2223"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/123269326","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":542,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":112073163,"gmtCreate":1622831914952,"gmtModify":1704192113266,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$5 ???","listText":"$5 ???","text":"$5 ???","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/00a538597b9bb135e108c06fcfc6c3f0","width":"1125","height":"2262"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/112073163","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":455,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":112079073,"gmtCreate":1622831794492,"gmtModify":1704192111949,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nah","listText":"Nah","text":"Nah","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/112079073","repostId":"1154529120","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1154529120","pubTimestamp":1622810459,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1154529120?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-04 20:40","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1154529120","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:. Alibaba Group'","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.</li>\n <li>I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.</li>\n <li>In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/567d19950e6c8789ce2192b4503f0fa5\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"653\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Photo by efetova/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.</p>\n<p><b>BABA Stock Price</b></p>\n<p>Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8079eeb5384ea003fb3725d3cd1e877f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>Shares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a&nbsp;revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.</p>\n<p>Alibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and&nbsp;fears about regulation.</p>\n<p>At its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.</p>\n<p><b>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.</p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.</i></p>\n<p>We see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd2d42b7094deb394266d6410287c2e4\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>At 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.</p>\n<p>I still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.</p>\n<p>If we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6fcf78e0b071eff9753afbdcd96f751c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>If analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b4c351b4b5eb3328191ccaa9a3b776c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>Analysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.</p>\n<p>We can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.</p>\n<p>So, to sum this section up, I'd say<i>yes, BABA can hit $500</i>-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.</p>\n<p><b>Is Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.</p>\n<p>For those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? 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If You Got Time, Yes\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-04 20:40 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1154529120","content_text":"Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.\nIn the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.\n\nPhoto by efetova/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nAlibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.\nBABA Stock Price\nSince its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:\nData byYCharts\nShares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.\nAlibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and fears about regulation.\nAt its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.\nCan Alibaba Stock Hit $500?\nThe answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.\nWe see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:\nData byYCharts\nAt 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.\nI still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.\nIf we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:\nData byYCharts\nIf analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.\nData byYCharts\nAnalysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.\nWe can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.\nSo, to sum this section up, I'd sayyes, BABA can hit $500-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.\nIs Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?\nAlibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.\nFor those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":354,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":118943296,"gmtCreate":1622715645215,"gmtModify":1704189528869,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BB\">$BlackBerry(BB)$</a>Yeboiiii","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BB\">$BlackBerry(BB)$</a>Yeboiiii","text":"$BlackBerry(BB)$Yeboiiii","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23ab435093b731b267f6c4928e0a8f4e","width":"1284","height":"2223"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/118943296","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":556,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":118949530,"gmtCreate":1622715607020,"gmtModify":1704189527894,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Show me some love","listText":"Show me some love","text":"Show me some love","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/118949530","repostId":"1128542350","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":408,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":113537768,"gmtCreate":1622625398454,"gmtModify":1704187560799,"author":{"id":"3575362765255061","authorId":"3575362765255061","name":"LanXana","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fcb3c0da8a41317a2e0b18356b9f70e1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575362765255061","authorIdStr":"3575362765255061"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BB\">$BlackBerry(BB)$</a>Go go go boy!!! 20 ???","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BB\">$BlackBerry(BB)$</a>Go go go boy!!! 20 ???","text":"$BlackBerry(BB)$Go go go boy!!! 20 ???","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/98df62af7443b490bf9d15e7cce14b6f","width":"1284","height":"2223"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/113537768","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":655,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3581082207694869","authorId":"3581082207694869","name":"Trading Guru","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/765299bc38d48154b1dbbe7c431c8f70","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3581082207694869","authorIdStr":"3581082207694869"},"content":"hahaha waiting too but doubt so ba.","text":"hahaha waiting too but doubt so ba.","html":"hahaha waiting too but doubt so ba."}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}