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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-05-09
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  3 Reasons Pinduoduo Stock Fell by More Than 30% in 2021
  The Chinese e-commerce company faces some short-term challenges, but its long-term prospects remain intact.
  3 Reasons Pinduoduo Stock Fell by More Than 30% in 2021
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-05-09
  Nice
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-05-06
  Buy or sell?
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-30
  Cool
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-27
  Good company, nothing to fear
  Ant Valuation Seen Falling to $29 Billion in Worst-Case Scenario
  Ant Group Co.’s valuation could plummet to as low as $29 billion after becoming a financial holding
  Ant Valuation Seen Falling to $29 Billion in Worst-Case Scenario
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-25
  When the dust settles?
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-24
  Go boy
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-24
  One after another
  Alibaba: The End Hasn't Come
  Alibaba's shares are down a lot from last year's highs, as a reaction to the market worrying about a range of issues.None of them seems to be too material, though, and the fear that has gripped the market has resulted in a quite inexpensive valuation.Alibaba is a high-growth mega-corp that trades like a low-growth company. This provides considerable upside potential in the long run.Alibabahas widely underperformed the broad market and most of its tech peers over the last six months, mainly due t
  Alibaba: The End Hasn't Come
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-24
  Isit gona sky Rocket after this read?
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- khorgckhorgc
  ·2021-04-24
  Sounds real
  Alibaba Stock Could Rise 50% After the Regulatory Fine
  BABA stock is worth $345.88, 50% higher, even after a 50% discount due to China’s regulatory crackdo
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The surge in online shopping driven by pandemic lockdown orders and social distancing efforts benefited major e-commerce players like <b>Sea Limited</b> and <b>Amazon</b>. Pinduoduo, too, rose to the occasion, gaining major ground on rivals <b>Alibaba</b> (NYSE:BABA) and <b>JD.com</b>. Its revenue grew by 97% year over year in 2020.</p><p>But Pinduoduo's share-price climb seems to have run out of steam, despite continued strength for some other tech bellwethers. <b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FB\">Facebook</a></b> share prices even hit an all-time high last week, underscoring that there's sustained demand among investors for quality tech names. 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The surge in online shopping driven by pandemic lockdown orders ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/07/3-reasons-pinduoduo-stock-fell-by-more-than-30/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","QNETCN":"纳斯达克中美互联网老虎指数","PDD":"拼多多","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/07/3-reasons-pinduoduo-stock-fell-by-more-than-30/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2133500411","content_text":"Chinese e-commerce company Pinduoduo (NASDAQ:PDD) was one of 2020's best-performing stocks, rallying by more than 300% during the year. The surge in online shopping driven by pandemic lockdown orders and social distancing efforts benefited major e-commerce players like Sea Limited and Amazon. Pinduoduo, too, rose to the occasion, gaining major ground on rivals Alibaba (NYSE:BABA) and JD.com. Its revenue grew by 97% year over year in 2020.But Pinduoduo's share-price climb seems to have run out of steam, despite continued strength for some other tech bellwethers. Facebook share prices even hit an all-time high last week, underscoring that there's sustained demand among investors for quality tech names. Pinduoduo stock, on the other hand, is now trading down about 37% from its peak in mid-February.Here's why the company and its stock may have fallen out of favor.Image source: Getty Images.3 reasons Pinduoduo stock has tumbled in 2021Pinduoduo's emergence as a major force in e-commerce has been nothing short of remarkable. In just five short years, it went from an unknown start-up to China's biggest e-commerce platform, with more active buyers than Alibaba. Revenue grew at a stunning rate and hit 59.5  billion yuan ($9.2 billion) in 2020, almost doubling year over year.The company owes much of its success to founder Zheng Huang, a data scientist and entrepreneur who was part of the team that set up Alphabet's Google China. But less than a year after he relinquished his role as CEO (on July 1, 2020) -- a move that was itself shocking -- Huang also recently stepped down as chairman of the board. That latest move may have spooked investors further -- the stock price is down 17% since the announcement on March 17.But that's not the only reason for concern. Chinese regulators have launched wide-ranging antitrust probes into that nation's large tech companies. The government just fined Alibaba $2.8 billion for breaking anti-monopoly laws. Tencent and Baidu were hit with much smaller fines in March for making acquisitions without notifying authorities.There's no clear evidence -- so far -- that Pinduoduo is involved in anti-competitive activities. But what's clear is that China is tightening its grip over its local tech titans, hurting their growth prospects. As one of China's biggest e-commerce companies, Pinduoduo will need to adapt to those challenges.In addition to these two reasons, the tide in the stock market is turning against high-growth tech companies. With many Americans beginning to resume their pre-pandemic ways, investors are selling the hypergrowth tech stocks that flourished during 2020, taking their profits, and shifting their bets into \"reopening\" plays like Wells Fargo and Dine Brands Global. Some of last year's hottest names like Tesla and Snowflake are down by 20% to 50% from all-time highs. As Pinduoduo was one of 2020's best-performing stocks, there's a high chance that some of its recent declines can be attributed to it getting caught up in the wider tech sell-off.What's next for Pinduoduo?Huang's abrupt exit from day-to-day operations at Pinduoduo has left investors with a clouded outlook heading into 2021. But it's worth noting that he remains the company's biggest shareholder. As a result, he will likely continue providing some guidance to the company. What's more, he has left Pinduoduo's management in good hands. New CEO Lei Chen -- who has worked with Huang since 2011 -- has been a key contributor to growing it into the powerhouse that it is today.Over the next few years, Pinduoduo is well-positioned to expand further on the back of rising customer spending. Its users spend just 2,115 yuan ($300) a year on the platform, still low compared to what the average customer spends on Alibaba. Beyond e-commerce, Pinduoduo has a vision to build a \"worldwide presence in agriculture,\" which could dramatically widen its addressable market. Agriculture-related gross merchandise value (GMV) nearly doubled from 136 billion yuan in 2019 to 270 billion yuan in 2020. 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Ant’s valuation could drop to a range of $29 billion to $115 billion, from $320 billion previously, he forecasts.</p>\n<p>Ant’s valuation could come to resemble those of banks and other mainstay financial institutions, Chan said. The fintech company is facing curbs on all fronts, from online lending to payments, wealth management and insurance.</p>\n<p>The company’s consumer lending units Huabei and Jiebei could suffer with their links being removed from Alipay, which has a billion users, Chan said. Ant will face more restrictions accessing and using personal information via credit investigations, he added. The company also needs to lower the balance of its Yu’ebao wealth management service, which plunged 18% in the first quarter.</p>\n<p>“Ant Group’s future as China’s fintech giant could be characterized by diminished greatness, with or without Jack Ma,” said Chan. Ma currently holds a controlling stake in the company.</p>\n<p>If Ant is seen like a traditional lender, even a fast-growing one such as&nbsp;China Merchants Bank Co., its valuation might not stretch beyond 487 billion yuan ($75 billion) to 492 billion yuan, Chan said. In the downside scenario, the market may assess Ant similar to the MSCI China Financials index, which implies a value of 186 billion yuan to 245 billion yuan.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Ant Valuation Seen Falling to $29 Billion in Worst-Case Scenario</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAnt Valuation Seen Falling to $29 Billion in Worst-Case Scenario\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-27 10:13 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-27/ant-valuation-seen-falling-to-29-billion-in-worst-case-scenario?srnd=markets-vp><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Ant Group Co.’s valuation could plummet to as low as $29 billion after becoming a financial holding company that’s regulated more like a bank, according to Bloomberg Intelligence.\nThe regulatory ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-27/ant-valuation-seen-falling-to-29-billion-in-worst-case-scenario?srnd=markets-vp\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W","06688":"蚂蚁集团"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-27/ant-valuation-seen-falling-to-29-billion-in-worst-case-scenario?srnd=markets-vp","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1174102331","content_text":"Ant Group Co.’s valuation could plummet to as low as $29 billion after becoming a financial holding company that’s regulated more like a bank, according to Bloomberg Intelligence.\nThe regulatory clampdown could push Ant’s revenue growth to the low teens compared with 30% in November, dragging down profit prospects, analyst Francis Chan wrote in a report on Tuesday. Ant’s valuation could drop to a range of $29 billion to $115 billion, from $320 billion previously, he forecasts.\nAnt’s valuation could come to resemble those of banks and other mainstay financial institutions, Chan said. The fintech company is facing curbs on all fronts, from online lending to payments, wealth management and insurance.\nThe company’s consumer lending units Huabei and Jiebei could suffer with their links being removed from Alipay, which has a billion users, Chan said. Ant will face more restrictions accessing and using personal information via credit investigations, he added. The company also needs to lower the balance of its Yu’ebao wealth management service, which plunged 18% in the first quarter.\n“Ant Group’s future as China’s fintech giant could be characterized by diminished greatness, with or without Jack Ma,” said Chan. Ma currently holds a controlling stake in the company.\nIf Ant is seen like a traditional lender, even a fast-growing one such as China Merchants Bank Co., its valuation might not stretch beyond 487 billion yuan ($75 billion) to 492 billion yuan, Chan said. 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This provides considerable upside potential in the long run.Alibabahas widely underperformed the broad market and most of its tech peers over the last six months, mainly due t","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Alibaba's shares are down a lot from last year's highs, as a reaction to the market worrying about a range of issues.</li>\n <li>None of them seems to be too material, though, and the fear that has gripped the market has resulted in a quite inexpensive valuation.</li>\n <li>Alibaba is a high-growth mega-corp that trades like a low-growth company. This provides considerable upside potential in the long run.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e9e22edb23ea75da683065efacc8a826\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"512\"><span>Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images News via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba(NYSE:BABA)has widely underperformed the broad market and most of its tech peers over the last six months, mainly due to worries about regulatory pressures, anti-trust legalization, etc. Most of those issues have been resolved now, and it looks like Alibaba's value wasn't really damaged to a large degree. Alibaba remains a leading tech &amp; consumer play in high-growth China that continues to trade at a clear discount compared to most US-based tech peers. There are risks, but Alibaba seems attractive at current prices.</p>\n<p><b>Hundreds Of Billions Destroyed</b></p>\n<p>Looking at Alibaba's market capitalization over the last year, there is a very clear decline in how the market values the company over time:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b2945ae7abd07b0f49f495052b1d48c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>From a peak in fall 2020, Alibaba's market cap has declined by 25% or a little more than $200 billion to date. The reasoning for that is not based on any type of fundamental slow-down, revenue decline, or similar, showcased by Alibaba's excellent results during the most recent quarters:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/eeea73c74f3890fadff9c321d70fdd47\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"960\"><span>Source: Investor presentation</span></p>\n<p>Not only has Alibaba continued to deliver revenue growth of well above 30% since then, but the company also continued to make progress in attractive high-growth spaces such as cloud computing. Alibaba's cloud unit broke even for the first time since inception as its scale is increasing, which bodes well for the future bottom-line contribution of this unit. Last but not least, Alibaba's free cash flow generation remained strong, and its margins remained attractive.</p>\n<p>Thus the big drop in the value the market ascribes to Alibaba's shares must have been caused by something else, which is market sentiment and psychology. Some negative news around Ant Financial's postponed IPO made the market fear looming regulatory pressures on Alibaba. This was exacerbated by anti-trust and anti-monopoly investigations. These were, of course, negatives, but not to the extent that the market priced them in.</p>\n<p>Looking at Alibaba's market capitalization, which declined by more than $200 billion over the last six months, one could assume that regulators would look to impose a fine of dozens or even hundreds of billions of dollars on Alibaba. That was, however, not the outcome of the investigations.</p>\n<p><b>Things Are Clearing Up For Alibaba</b></p>\n<p>Instead, Chinese regulators gave a slap on the wrist, seeking a$2.75 billion finefrom Alibaba. That sounds like a lot, but it really isn't all that much when we consider Alibaba's immense size:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9777ed30a0bc29e8fdcd0373fe98e366\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"160\"><span>Source: Alibaba filing</span></p>\n<p>Alibaba generated cash of $15.8 billion through its operations during the most recent quarter, or a little over $5 billion a month. The fine that was imposed on the company thus is equal to about two weeks' worth of cash flows. Is that a positive? No, it's a negative. Is it a large negative? In fact, it seems barely noticeable compared to Alibaba's size. We can also look at how this fine compares to Alibaba's cash holding of more than $50 billion, and, once again, we are talking about a very minor fine relative to how the company is doing. What could be a company-breaking fine for any mid-sized business will barely leave a dent in Alibaba's cash holding, and with this issue being resolved now, it is no wonder that&nbsp;shares have jumped&nbsp;following the ruling.</p>\n<p>The other theme that had pressured Alibaba's shares, Ant Financial's regulatory issues, has more or less been resolved as well. Ant Financial will be&nbsp;turned into a financial holding company, there will be some additional oversight, and there were some forced divestments. But this didn't break Ant Financial at all, and it seems questionable whether the hit to Alibaba's value was really all that material, as Alibaba is only a minority holder in Ant Financial anyways.</p>\n<p>Again, these developments that occurred over the last six months aren't positives, but they are not extremely large negatives. A $200+ billion drop in Alibaba's market capitalization seemed way overblown. The good thing about market overreactions, however, is that one can use them to get attractive entry prices (in case markets are overreacting to the downside) or attractive exit prices (in cases where markets are too exuberant).</p>\n<p>In Alibaba's case, the best time to load up on shares was when they traded for around $220 several times over the last six months. They have risen to a somewhat higher level since then, partially due to the market's realization that the $2.75 billion fine wasn't all that material, but Alibaba's shares are still looking quite inexpensive even now.</p>\n<p><b>Alibaba Is An Outstanding Value Among Tech Mega-Caps</b></p>\n<p>Looking at the largest companies in the world, by market capitalization, we see that most of them are tech companies, or at least tech-leaning, such as Tesla (TSLA). Alibaba stands out among those due to a quite low valuation:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/35e905980ec6f35fdbb0069b2386e4dd\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"521\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>While others trade at 30-40 times net earnings mostly, with Amazon (AMZN) and especially Tesla trading at even higher valuations, Alibaba is valued at a very inexpensive 21 times forward earnings. This also represents a discount compared to broad US equity markets, which are trading for around 25 times forward earnings right now - at least partially due to the heavy weight of companies such as Apple (AAPL), Amazon, and Tesla.</p>\n<p>One may be inclined to conclude that Alibaba is trading at the lowest valuation among those companies due to a below-average growth outlook or below-average fundamentals, but that isn't true.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/059736c2aa39c317943026b469331d00\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"504\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>While the other mega-caps have grown by 5%-40% in 2020, with an average of around 20%, Alibaba has delivered revenue growth of 35%-50% in each&nbsp;quarter of the current fiscal year. Clearly, Alibaba is growing faster than the average mega-cap, and most analysts expect that this will not change any time soon.</p>\n<p>Thanks to exposure to the high-growth, online-focused consumer market in its home country China, combined with excellent growth in additional franchises such as its cloud computing unit, Alibaba should be able to deliver compelling growth for the foreseeable future. Alibaba is an excellent play for the ongoing expansion of the Chinese economy, which just delivered&nbsp;record growth&nbsp;on a year-over-year basis.</p>\n<p>With a clean balance sheet thanks to a $50+ billion cash position, strong free cash flows, and attractive margins, Alibaba also seems like a very appropriate choice from a quality perspective. To me, the company doesn't look inferior to the major US tech companies on that basis.</p>\n<p><b>Risks To Consider</b></p>\n<p>There are, of course, still risks that one should consider before investing. It is possible that regulators demand more change from Alibaba, or impose additional fines, although that seems relatively unlikely for now as the current anti-monopoly investigation has just been concluded. Nevertheless, Alibaba is of course dependent to some degree on the goodwill of Chinese regulators and politicians.</p>\n<p>On top of that, due to a consumer-focused business model, Alibaba would seem quite vulnerable to any external shock that hits Chinese consumers hard. Since the country has weathered the current pandemic quite well and continues to deliver above-average economic growth rates, I don't think this is a likely scenario in the foreseeable future, though.</p>\n<p>I don't see Alibaba as an especially risky investment at all, but these factors should still be considered before making an investment, as should other potential risks that could affect the company. One should mention, however, that the top US companies are also, at least to some extent, dependent on regulatory goodwill and could see an impact from an economic downturn, thus Alibaba is not necessarily a much riskier choice than Facebook, for example.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba is a high-growth player with a strong market position in a country that continues to deliver above-average economic growth. Alibaba has strong fundamentals, and yet it trades at a quite inexpensive valuation, both on an absolute basis as well as compared to how other mega-caps are valued.</p>\n<p>Alibaba isn't a risk-less stock, but the risks seem quite bearable to me. At just 17 times 2022's net earnings, Alibaba looks attractive to me. Since the Ant Financial and anti-monopoly issues have cleared up, I believe that Alibaba's shares could rise considerably from the current level, as sentiment hopefully improves. It would be great to see management encourage such an upward move by being more aggressive with share repurchases, but there is no guarantee for that.</p>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba: The End Hasn't Come</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba: The End Hasn't Come\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-23 20:38 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420852-alibaba-the-end-hasnt-come><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nAlibaba's shares are down a lot from last year's highs, as a reaction to the market worrying about a range of issues.\nNone of them seems to be too material, though, and the fear that has ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420852-alibaba-the-end-hasnt-come\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420852-alibaba-the-end-hasnt-come","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1170805005","content_text":"Summary\n\nAlibaba's shares are down a lot from last year's highs, as a reaction to the market worrying about a range of issues.\nNone of them seems to be too material, though, and the fear that has gripped the market has resulted in a quite inexpensive valuation.\nAlibaba is a high-growth mega-corp that trades like a low-growth company. This provides considerable upside potential in the long run.\n\nPhoto by Andrew Burton/Getty Images News via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nAlibaba(NYSE:BABA)has widely underperformed the broad market and most of its tech peers over the last six months, mainly due to worries about regulatory pressures, anti-trust legalization, etc. Most of those issues have been resolved now, and it looks like Alibaba's value wasn't really damaged to a large degree. Alibaba remains a leading tech & consumer play in high-growth China that continues to trade at a clear discount compared to most US-based tech peers. There are risks, but Alibaba seems attractive at current prices.\nHundreds Of Billions Destroyed\nLooking at Alibaba's market capitalization over the last year, there is a very clear decline in how the market values the company over time:\nData by YCharts\nFrom a peak in fall 2020, Alibaba's market cap has declined by 25% or a little more than $200 billion to date. The reasoning for that is not based on any type of fundamental slow-down, revenue decline, or similar, showcased by Alibaba's excellent results during the most recent quarters:\nSource: Investor presentation\nNot only has Alibaba continued to deliver revenue growth of well above 30% since then, but the company also continued to make progress in attractive high-growth spaces such as cloud computing. Alibaba's cloud unit broke even for the first time since inception as its scale is increasing, which bodes well for the future bottom-line contribution of this unit. Last but not least, Alibaba's free cash flow generation remained strong, and its margins remained attractive.\nThus the big drop in the value the market ascribes to Alibaba's shares must have been caused by something else, which is market sentiment and psychology. Some negative news around Ant Financial's postponed IPO made the market fear looming regulatory pressures on Alibaba. This was exacerbated by anti-trust and anti-monopoly investigations. These were, of course, negatives, but not to the extent that the market priced them in.\nLooking at Alibaba's market capitalization, which declined by more than $200 billion over the last six months, one could assume that regulators would look to impose a fine of dozens or even hundreds of billions of dollars on Alibaba. That was, however, not the outcome of the investigations.\nThings Are Clearing Up For Alibaba\nInstead, Chinese regulators gave a slap on the wrist, seeking a$2.75 billion finefrom Alibaba. That sounds like a lot, but it really isn't all that much when we consider Alibaba's immense size:\nSource: Alibaba filing\nAlibaba generated cash of $15.8 billion through its operations during the most recent quarter, or a little over $5 billion a month. The fine that was imposed on the company thus is equal to about two weeks' worth of cash flows. Is that a positive? No, it's a negative. Is it a large negative? In fact, it seems barely noticeable compared to Alibaba's size. We can also look at how this fine compares to Alibaba's cash holding of more than $50 billion, and, once again, we are talking about a very minor fine relative to how the company is doing. What could be a company-breaking fine for any mid-sized business will barely leave a dent in Alibaba's cash holding, and with this issue being resolved now, it is no wonder that shares have jumped following the ruling.\nThe other theme that had pressured Alibaba's shares, Ant Financial's regulatory issues, has more or less been resolved as well. Ant Financial will be turned into a financial holding company, there will be some additional oversight, and there were some forced divestments. But this didn't break Ant Financial at all, and it seems questionable whether the hit to Alibaba's value was really all that material, as Alibaba is only a minority holder in Ant Financial anyways.\nAgain, these developments that occurred over the last six months aren't positives, but they are not extremely large negatives. A $200+ billion drop in Alibaba's market capitalization seemed way overblown. The good thing about market overreactions, however, is that one can use them to get attractive entry prices (in case markets are overreacting to the downside) or attractive exit prices (in cases where markets are too exuberant).\nIn Alibaba's case, the best time to load up on shares was when they traded for around $220 several times over the last six months. They have risen to a somewhat higher level since then, partially due to the market's realization that the $2.75 billion fine wasn't all that material, but Alibaba's shares are still looking quite inexpensive even now.\nAlibaba Is An Outstanding Value Among Tech Mega-Caps\nLooking at the largest companies in the world, by market capitalization, we see that most of them are tech companies, or at least tech-leaning, such as Tesla (TSLA). Alibaba stands out among those due to a quite low valuation:\nData by YCharts\nWhile others trade at 30-40 times net earnings mostly, with Amazon (AMZN) and especially Tesla trading at even higher valuations, Alibaba is valued at a very inexpensive 21 times forward earnings. This also represents a discount compared to broad US equity markets, which are trading for around 25 times forward earnings right now - at least partially due to the heavy weight of companies such as Apple (AAPL), Amazon, and Tesla.\nOne may be inclined to conclude that Alibaba is trading at the lowest valuation among those companies due to a below-average growth outlook or below-average fundamentals, but that isn't true.\nData by YCharts\nWhile the other mega-caps have grown by 5%-40% in 2020, with an average of around 20%, Alibaba has delivered revenue growth of 35%-50% in each quarter of the current fiscal year. Clearly, Alibaba is growing faster than the average mega-cap, and most analysts expect that this will not change any time soon.\nThanks to exposure to the high-growth, online-focused consumer market in its home country China, combined with excellent growth in additional franchises such as its cloud computing unit, Alibaba should be able to deliver compelling growth for the foreseeable future. Alibaba is an excellent play for the ongoing expansion of the Chinese economy, which just delivered record growth on a year-over-year basis.\nWith a clean balance sheet thanks to a $50+ billion cash position, strong free cash flows, and attractive margins, Alibaba also seems like a very appropriate choice from a quality perspective. To me, the company doesn't look inferior to the major US tech companies on that basis.\nRisks To Consider\nThere are, of course, still risks that one should consider before investing. It is possible that regulators demand more change from Alibaba, or impose additional fines, although that seems relatively unlikely for now as the current anti-monopoly investigation has just been concluded. Nevertheless, Alibaba is of course dependent to some degree on the goodwill of Chinese regulators and politicians.\nOn top of that, due to a consumer-focused business model, Alibaba would seem quite vulnerable to any external shock that hits Chinese consumers hard. Since the country has weathered the current pandemic quite well and continues to deliver above-average economic growth rates, I don't think this is a likely scenario in the foreseeable future, though.\nI don't see Alibaba as an especially risky investment at all, but these factors should still be considered before making an investment, as should other potential risks that could affect the company. One should mention, however, that the top US companies are also, at least to some extent, dependent on regulatory goodwill and could see an impact from an economic downturn, thus Alibaba is not necessarily a much riskier choice than Facebook, for example.\nTakeaway\nAlibaba is a high-growth player with a strong market position in a country that continues to deliver above-average economic growth. Alibaba has strong fundamentals, and yet it trades at a quite inexpensive valuation, both on an absolute basis as well as compared to how other mega-caps are valued.\nAlibaba isn't a risk-less stock, but the risks seem quite bearable to me. At just 17 times 2022's net earnings, Alibaba looks attractive to me. Since the Ant Financial and anti-monopoly issues have cleared up, I believe that Alibaba's shares could rise considerably from the current level, as sentiment hopefully improves. It would be great to see management encourage such an upward move by being more aggressive with share repurchases, but there is no guarantee for that.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":341,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372497843,"gmtCreate":1619231898282,"gmtModify":1704721608531,"author":{"id":"3577490358002933","authorId":"3577490358002933","name":"khorgc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65a0addb29d13bd2bfdcfb44b21f26dd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3577490358002933","authorIdStr":"3577490358002933"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Isit gona sky Rocket after this read?&nbsp;","listText":"Isit gona sky Rocket after this read?&nbsp;","text":"Isit gona sky Rocket after this read?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/372497843","repostId":"1172227414","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":791,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372491747,"gmtCreate":1619231544189,"gmtModify":1704721600428,"author":{"id":"3577490358002933","authorId":"3577490358002933","name":"khorgc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65a0addb29d13bd2bfdcfb44b21f26dd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3577490358002933","authorIdStr":"3577490358002933"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sounds real","listText":"Sounds real","text":"Sounds real","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/372491747","repostId":"1172227414","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1172227414","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1619185525,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1172227414?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-04-23 21:45","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Alibaba Stock Could Rise 50% After the Regulatory Fine","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1172227414","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"BABA stock is worth $345.88, 50% higher, even after a 50% discount due to China’s regulatory crackdo","content":"<p>BABA stock is worth $345.88, 50% higher, even after a 50% discount due to China’s regulatory crackdown</p><p><b>Alibaba</b>&nbsp;(NYSE:<b><u>BABA</u></b>) stock has had a rough year, and had actually fallen 1.7% to $228.64 on April 20 from its 2020 year-end close of $232.75. In fact, over the last year, BABA stock is up just a bit over 10%. That is nothing to write home about. But the truth is the stock is now very cheap, and likely to do much better over the next year.</p><p>This is especially true now that the Chinese e-commerce conglomerate, with a similar business model to&nbsp;<b>Amazon</b>&nbsp;(NASDAQ:<b><u>AMZN)</u></b>, has weathered a lengthy review from Chinese regulators. On April 10, they accepted&nbsp;a $2.8 billion antitrust fine&nbsp;from the State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) in the PRC. This is effectively a slap on the wrist, as the fine represents just 4% of its 2019 revenue.</p><p>Analysts were uniform in arguing that this is a relief for BABA stock. One analyst from HSBC pointed out that this would&nbsp;not affect its gross merchandise value(GMV). Apparently what riled regulators were actions from one of Alibaba’s “Tmall flagship stores that are directly operated by brands.” The point is its fundamental business model won’t be changed or affected.</p><p><b>Comparing Alibaba’s Valuation</b></p><p>In my previous&nbsp;article at the end of last year,I compared the valuation of Alibaba stock to Amazon. I found that Alibaba was very cheap, as its price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio was one-third that of Amazon. This was the case even though both had similar price-to-sales ratios.</p><p>Well, the same is true today. For example, BABA stock has a&nbsp;forward P/E ratio (for 2021) of 22 times earnings&nbsp;(year ending March) and just 21 times for 2022, according to<i>Seeking Alpha</i>. Compare this to AMZN stock. Its 2021 forward 2021 P/E multiple (year ending December) is 70 times, and for 2022 is 50 times earnings. This means that Alibaba trades for under a third of the 2021 AMZN stock ratio and 42% of the 2022 ratio.</p><p>Moreover, Alibaba has similar, if not better, free cash flow (FCF) margins as compared to Amazon. For example, according to<i>Seeking Alpha</i>, during the last 12 months (LTM) ending in December 2020, Alibaba&nbsp;generated $27.148.02 billion&nbsp;on $98.686 billion, or a 27.5% FCF margin. But Amazon had $31.02 billion in FCF on $386.06 billion in revenue, or an 8% FCF margin. In other words, Alibaba has 3.4 times the FCF margins of Amazon.</p><p><b>What Alibaba Is Worth</b></p><p>So the Alibaba valuation is out of whack.</p><p>But maybe a 66% discount to the valuation is too much (i.e., the 2021 P/E valuation discount). For example, let’s assume there is just a 50% discount to the comparable 2021 P/E value (to account for the PRC discount) and a 40% discount to the 2022 valuation. That would give BABA stock a P/E ratio of 35 times for 2021 (i.e., 50% x 70 multiple) and a 30 times ratio for 2022 (i.e., 60% x 50 times).</p><p>As a result, the implied discounted 2021 valuation is$356.65 (i.e., $10.19 EPS for 2021 times 35 P/E) and $335.70 for 2022 (i.e., $11.19 2022 EPS x 30 P/E ratio). The average of these two target prices is $345.88 is still 50% above today’s price (April 20).</p><p>So, even after discounting Alibaba’s prospects by 50% for 2021 and 40% for 2022 (assuming the regulatory crackdown abates by then), the stock is still very cheap.</p><p><b>What to Do With BABA Stock</b></p><p>Many analysts fail to properly discount Alibaba’s valuation. They see the discrepancy with Amazon and other Western tech stocks and say this stock is worth three times more.</p><p>No one really knows where any of this regulatory scrutiny could end. It is a massive, volatile, uncertain, and potentially totally destructive risk for owners of BABA stock. The market is not blind to this risk, which is why the stock is so cheap. However, I do believe that the market has overdone the risk discounting. It seems likely now that the stock will rise assuming that the government scrutiny is over.</p><p>This could be a wild ride. Keep in mind that BABA stock carries huge risks, despite its massive profitability.&nbsp; Nevertheless, right now it looks like the stock is worth about 50% more, or $345.88 per share.</p>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba Stock Could Rise 50% After the Regulatory Fine</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba Stock Could Rise 50% After the Regulatory Fine\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-23 21:45 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2021/04/baba-stock-is-worth-50-percent-more-at-345-88-despite-a-50-percent-prc-discount/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>BABA stock is worth $345.88, 50% higher, even after a 50% discount due to China’s regulatory crackdownAlibaba (NYSE:BABA) stock has had a rough year, and had actually fallen 1.7% to $228.64 on April ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/04/baba-stock-is-worth-50-percent-more-at-345-88-despite-a-50-percent-prc-discount/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2021/04/baba-stock-is-worth-50-percent-more-at-345-88-despite-a-50-percent-prc-discount/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1172227414","content_text":"BABA stock is worth $345.88, 50% higher, even after a 50% discount due to China’s regulatory crackdownAlibaba (NYSE:BABA) stock has had a rough year, and had actually fallen 1.7% to $228.64 on April 20 from its 2020 year-end close of $232.75. In fact, over the last year, BABA stock is up just a bit over 10%. That is nothing to write home about. But the truth is the stock is now very cheap, and likely to do much better over the next year.This is especially true now that the Chinese e-commerce conglomerate, with a similar business model to Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN), has weathered a lengthy review from Chinese regulators. On April 10, they accepted a $2.8 billion antitrust fine from the State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) in the PRC. This is effectively a slap on the wrist, as the fine represents just 4% of its 2019 revenue.Analysts were uniform in arguing that this is a relief for BABA stock. One analyst from HSBC pointed out that this would not affect its gross merchandise value(GMV). Apparently what riled regulators were actions from one of Alibaba’s “Tmall flagship stores that are directly operated by brands.” The point is its fundamental business model won’t be changed or affected.Comparing Alibaba’s ValuationIn my previous article at the end of last year,I compared the valuation of Alibaba stock to Amazon. I found that Alibaba was very cheap, as its price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio was one-third that of Amazon. This was the case even though both had similar price-to-sales ratios.Well, the same is true today. For example, BABA stock has a forward P/E ratio (for 2021) of 22 times earnings (year ending March) and just 21 times for 2022, according toSeeking Alpha. Compare this to AMZN stock. Its 2021 forward 2021 P/E multiple (year ending December) is 70 times, and for 2022 is 50 times earnings. This means that Alibaba trades for under a third of the 2021 AMZN stock ratio and 42% of the 2022 ratio.Moreover, Alibaba has similar, if not better, free cash flow (FCF) margins as compared to Amazon. For example, according toSeeking Alpha, during the last 12 months (LTM) ending in December 2020, Alibaba generated $27.148.02 billion on $98.686 billion, or a 27.5% FCF margin. But Amazon had $31.02 billion in FCF on $386.06 billion in revenue, or an 8% FCF margin. In other words, Alibaba has 3.4 times the FCF margins of Amazon.What Alibaba Is WorthSo the Alibaba valuation is out of whack.But maybe a 66% discount to the valuation is too much (i.e., the 2021 P/E valuation discount). For example, let’s assume there is just a 50% discount to the comparable 2021 P/E value (to account for the PRC discount) and a 40% discount to the 2022 valuation. That would give BABA stock a P/E ratio of 35 times for 2021 (i.e., 50% x 70 multiple) and a 30 times ratio for 2022 (i.e., 60% x 50 times).As a result, the implied discounted 2021 valuation is$356.65 (i.e., $10.19 EPS for 2021 times 35 P/E) and $335.70 for 2022 (i.e., $11.19 2022 EPS x 30 P/E ratio). The average of these two target prices is $345.88 is still 50% above today’s price (April 20).So, even after discounting Alibaba’s prospects by 50% for 2021 and 40% for 2022 (assuming the regulatory crackdown abates by then), the stock is still very cheap.What to Do With BABA StockMany analysts fail to properly discount Alibaba’s valuation. They see the discrepancy with Amazon and other Western tech stocks and say this stock is worth three times more.No one really knows where any of this regulatory scrutiny could end. It is a massive, volatile, uncertain, and potentially totally destructive risk for owners of BABA stock. The market is not blind to this risk, which is why the stock is so cheap. However, I do believe that the market has overdone the risk discounting. It seems likely now that the stock will rise assuming that the government scrutiny is over.This could be a wild ride. Keep in mind that BABA stock carries huge risks, despite its massive profitability.  Nevertheless, right now it looks like the stock is worth about 50% more, or $345.88 per share.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":632,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}