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It has also invested inZhuyou Hotel Group, a Chinese hotel chain dedicated to serving tech-savvy millennials.</p>\n<p>Tam sees investing as only a starting point to capture the smart city market and his ambitions extend to creating a vast ecosystem around his portfolio firms -- a move straight from the playbook of tech giants like Alibaba. Venturous Group is in advanced discussions with a British engineering conglomerate to form a joint venture in China, which will equip buildings with smart sensors and other advanced technologies, Tam said, declining to provide details.</p>\n<p>“One thing he appreciates is longevity in the value he brings,” Kwan said. “This manifests itself in his interest in wine. If you pick the right kind of Château, then you pick the grape, the land, and the wine maker. 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That company turned out to beAlibaba Group Holding Ltd., which ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-16/investor-who-gained-200-000-on-alibaba-bets-big-on-smart-cities\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-16/investor-who-gained-200-000-on-alibaba-bets-big-on-smart-cities","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1162782159","content_text":"In 1999, Benson Tam decided to help out his buddy Joe Tsai and orchestrated a $500,000 investment for his then-untested startup. That company turned out to beAlibaba Group Holding Ltd., which revolutionized online shopping in China and debuted 15 years later with the world’s largest initial public offering, yielding a 200-fold return for Tam and his partners.\nIn contrast with his decisive bet into Alibaba, Tam has spent the better part of the past decade studying and planning for what he believes will be the transformative trend of the new century. Now, his Venturous Group is preparing to step into the limelight, raising $131 million to help bankroll China’s so-called New Infrastructure plan: amulti-trillion-dollar vision to lay the foundation for the country’s future by building everything from intelligent cities to sprawling ultra-fast networks. It’s a vastly longer-term bet than the rocket ship that was Alibaba, but Tam believes the payoff could be similar in magnitude if he plays his cards right.\n“Think before you act, aim before you shoot,” said the methodical 57-year-old, adding that he read 400 books and tested the waters with several personal investments in the seven years before launching his new venture.\nTam’s Venturous is the product of a three-decade career during which the veteran has backed other early internet giants and helped pioneer venture investing and private equity across the world’s No. 2 economy. His journey into finance began in 1989 as an investment banker at S.G. Warburg in London. The Asia IPO boom two years later brought Tam back to his hometown of Hong Kong, where he shepherded companies going public for East Asia Warburg, followed by stints working on private equity at Hellman & Friedman Asia and Electra Partners Asia.\nThe successful bet on Alibaba, made jointly with Fidelity Investments, led him to co-found Fidelity Growth Partners Asia in 2002, where he played a key role in growing assets 200-fold to $4 billion in just a decade. Tam’s signature investments also includeAsiaInfo Holdings, which built China’s first national broadband network and became one of the first Chinese tech listings on the Nasdaq.\nTam’s early experience taught him the value of personal relationships and the Hong Kong native moved to Beijing in 2002 to befriend mainland entrepreneurs. One of his key goals in his early days as a venture capitalist was to be invited by startup founders and fellow investors to weekend parties. Even today, Tam still attends team-building activities at his investee firms. “Capital is not all about money. It’s not all about numbers. It’s ultimately about people,” Tam said.\nNow, his Beijing-based Venturous Group has raised $131 million from financial institutions including Fidelity as well as billionaire families in its Series A round. He’s seeking another $100 million by the end of this year to digitalize buildings, transportation and other urban facilities in China, an initiative backed by President Xi Jinping himself.\nUnder Beijing’s infrastructure masterplan, China will invest an estimated$1.4 trillionover six years to 2025 to lay fifth generation wireless networks, install cameras and sensors, and deploy artificial intelligence technology that will enable cutting-edge solutions such as autonomous driving and internet-connected smart homes.\nSavio Kwan, the first chief operating officer at Alibaba, says Tam is uniquely positioned to lead China’s next tech boom. “It looks as if it is lucky to be there early. But it is not,” said Kwan, who invested $10 million into Venturous. “To be early means you’re well prepared and you’re learning from your past experience.”\nIt was precisely a missed opportunity that transformed Tam into a better investor, according to Kwan. In 2002, when Alibaba was trying to raise a third round of $5 million, many existing backers -- Fidelity included -- took a wait-and-see approach. Kwan and several others like co-founders Jack Ma and Tsai ended up putting in $1 million of their own money to close the round, an investment that ended up generating a 40-fold return in the following two years. “That must have affected Benson in a sense that he wants to go for the long term,” Kwan says.\nLiu Tianwen, the founder and chief executive officer ofiSoftStone Information Technology (Group) Co., is among entrepreneurs who have benefited from Tam’s patience and unwillingness to write off troubled startups. When the software firm struggled to raise capital during the 2008 financial crisis, Tam not only doubled down on Fidelity’s investment but also helped bring in more investors. Since then, sales of Beijing-based iSoftStone have climbed to nearly 13 billion yuan ($2 billion) in 2020 and the company is set to float on China’s Nasdaq-style ChiNext board this year.\n“Some investors eye an immediate return, but Benson has a vision for the long run,” Liu said. It was Liu’s business that crystallized Tam’s decision to bet big on smart cities, after local mayors started flocking to iSoftStone’s headquarters for help to digitalize local services and infrastructure in 2017.\n“That was the aha moment,” Tam said. “We realized that something had tipped over with respect to smart city tech.”\nVenturous Group makes concentrated bets -- pouring nearly all the capital it’s raised so far into seven startups includingiSSTech, an iSoftStone spinoff that provides big data and cloud computing services to urban planners. It has also invested inZhuyou Hotel Group, a Chinese hotel chain dedicated to serving tech-savvy millennials.\nTam sees investing as only a starting point to capture the smart city market and his ambitions extend to creating a vast ecosystem around his portfolio firms -- a move straight from the playbook of tech giants like Alibaba. Venturous Group is in advanced discussions with a British engineering conglomerate to form a joint venture in China, which will equip buildings with smart sensors and other advanced technologies, Tam said, declining to provide details.\n“One thing he appreciates is longevity in the value he brings,” Kwan said. “This manifests itself in his interest in wine. If you pick the right kind of Château, then you pick the grape, the land, and the wine maker. In the long term, you will see the increase in value.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":37,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":169977008,"gmtCreate":1623814865804,"gmtModify":1703820332931,"author":{"id":"3581760521401668","authorId":"3581760521401668","authorIdStr":"3581760521401668","name":"Gringar","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581760521401668"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Like n comment ty","listText":"Like n comment ty","text":"Like n comment ty","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/169977008","repostId":"1109582645","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1109582645","pubTimestamp":1623808952,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1109582645?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-16 10:02","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Goldman Sachs Changed Its Mind On Apple Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1109582645","media":"TheStreet","summary":"After being on the spotlight for latching on to his pessimism over Apple stock, even following stron","content":"<p>After being on the spotlight for latching on to his pessimism over Apple stock, even&nbsp;following strong quarterly results, famed bear Rod Hall at Goldman Sachs threw in the towel and&nbsp;changed his position on AAPLfrom sell to neutral. Last week, he gave an interview to CNBC and further elaborated on his decision.</p>\n<p>The Apple Maven takes a closer look at this bear’s journey from highly skeptical to timidly optimistic about Apple shares.</p>\n<p><b>iPhone at the center of the bear case</b></p>\n<p>At the core of Goldman Sachs’ sell rating on Apple stock was the Cupertino company's challenges at meeting iPhone sales growth metrics going forward. Rod Hall explained it:</p>\n<blockquote>\n “Apple continues to show strong execution, but we see fundamentals more likely to disappoint in 2021 as the long-anticipated 5G iPhone fails to meet optimistic consensus expectations and services revenue growth slows.”\n</blockquote>\n<p>To be fair, Apple’s most recent financial results had been far from exhilarating ahead of Goldman’s stock rating upgrade. The Cupertino company's main revenue generator, the iPhone, had produced timid results in 2020, making some wonder if smartphone sales would disappoint&nbsp;at the start of the 5G cycle.</p>\n<p>The plateauing in smartphone sales preceded the pandemic year. Based on data from third party-research companies Gartner and Strategy Analytics, 187 million iPhones were sold in 2019, fewer than the 217 million of 2018. And from 2019 to 2020, there was an unprecedented decrease in iPhone revenues: from $142 billion to $138 billion last year.</p>\n<p>Therefore, and based on recent trends, Rod Hall’s bearishness towards the iPhone seemed reasonably justifiable. What had been missing to tip Apple stock over, in the analyst’s view, was a negative catalyst. He believed that the COVID-19 pandemic could be it.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/89631d8083d43e0daee7828d45e7a67a\" tg-width=\"627\" tg-height=\"453\"><span>Figure 1: iPhone quarterly revenue ($bn).</span></p>\n<p><b>When Goldman Sachs fell off the horse</b></p>\n<p>Goldman’s rating change on AAPL came in April, after&nbsp;the Cupertino company crushed expectations&nbsp;and released a blowout earnings report. Fiscal second quarter 2021 marked a turning point in iPhone 12 sales, after Apple faced delays&nbsp;in the launch of the new device.</p>\n<p>Apple reported iPhone revenues of $47.9 billion versus Wall Street’s consensus $41.5 billion. Year-over-year, the top-line increase was a staggering $19 billion, representing growth of 65%.</p>\n<p>These numbers probably caught Goldman’s Rod Hall flat-footed.</p>\n<p><b>How Goldman Sachs sees Apple going forward</b></p>\n<p>According to Goldman, the neutral position on AAPL is justified by one key metric: revenues per user. The analyst believes that growth in this metric should be in line with U.S. GDP. He points out that Apple's revenues per user have remained static in recent years, only rising during the pandemic due to stay-at-home trends.</p>\n<p>On the bullish side of the argument, Rod Hall sees the importance of privacy, and thinks that Apple could benefit from increased demand for being an advocate of user data protection. On the bearish side, the analyst remains skeptical that the services segment will grow as much as expected, and that only about 20% to 25% of active users will pay for Apple services.</p>\n<p><b>The Apple Maven's take</b></p>\n<p>Rod Hall has not been the first and will not be the last on Wall Street to be proven wrong on a stock rating. Goldman Sachs' position was contrarian, and bold for the same reason. Yet, the Apple Maven believes that Rod Hall’s cautious stance could still be a bit too conservative.</p>\n<p>While stay-at-home trends may have distorted fiscal 2020 and early 2021 results, the 5G cycle, the M1 architecture, the expansion of the services portfolio and resilient consumer spending in general may still help to boost Apple's revenue-per-user metric – Goldman’s key concern.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Goldman Sachs Changed Its Mind On Apple Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy Goldman Sachs Changed Its Mind On Apple Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-16 10:02 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.thestreet.com/apple/news/why-goldman-sachs-changed-its-mind-on-apple-stock><strong>TheStreet</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>After being on the spotlight for latching on to his pessimism over Apple stock, even following strong quarterly results, famed bear Rod Hall at Goldman Sachs threw in the towel and changed his ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/news/why-goldman-sachs-changed-its-mind-on-apple-stock\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/news/why-goldman-sachs-changed-its-mind-on-apple-stock","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1109582645","content_text":"After being on the spotlight for latching on to his pessimism over Apple stock, even following strong quarterly results, famed bear Rod Hall at Goldman Sachs threw in the towel and changed his position on AAPLfrom sell to neutral. Last week, he gave an interview to CNBC and further elaborated on his decision.\nThe Apple Maven takes a closer look at this bear’s journey from highly skeptical to timidly optimistic about Apple shares.\niPhone at the center of the bear case\nAt the core of Goldman Sachs’ sell rating on Apple stock was the Cupertino company's challenges at meeting iPhone sales growth metrics going forward. Rod Hall explained it:\n\n “Apple continues to show strong execution, but we see fundamentals more likely to disappoint in 2021 as the long-anticipated 5G iPhone fails to meet optimistic consensus expectations and services revenue growth slows.”\n\nTo be fair, Apple’s most recent financial results had been far from exhilarating ahead of Goldman’s stock rating upgrade. The Cupertino company's main revenue generator, the iPhone, had produced timid results in 2020, making some wonder if smartphone sales would disappoint at the start of the 5G cycle.\nThe plateauing in smartphone sales preceded the pandemic year. Based on data from third party-research companies Gartner and Strategy Analytics, 187 million iPhones were sold in 2019, fewer than the 217 million of 2018. And from 2019 to 2020, there was an unprecedented decrease in iPhone revenues: from $142 billion to $138 billion last year.\nTherefore, and based on recent trends, Rod Hall’s bearishness towards the iPhone seemed reasonably justifiable. What had been missing to tip Apple stock over, in the analyst’s view, was a negative catalyst. He believed that the COVID-19 pandemic could be it.\nFigure 1: iPhone quarterly revenue ($bn).\nWhen Goldman Sachs fell off the horse\nGoldman’s rating change on AAPL came in April, after the Cupertino company crushed expectations and released a blowout earnings report. Fiscal second quarter 2021 marked a turning point in iPhone 12 sales, after Apple faced delays in the launch of the new device.\nApple reported iPhone revenues of $47.9 billion versus Wall Street’s consensus $41.5 billion. Year-over-year, the top-line increase was a staggering $19 billion, representing growth of 65%.\nThese numbers probably caught Goldman’s Rod Hall flat-footed.\nHow Goldman Sachs sees Apple going forward\nAccording to Goldman, the neutral position on AAPL is justified by one key metric: revenues per user. The analyst believes that growth in this metric should be in line with U.S. GDP. He points out that Apple's revenues per user have remained static in recent years, only rising during the pandemic due to stay-at-home trends.\nOn the bullish side of the argument, Rod Hall sees the importance of privacy, and thinks that Apple could benefit from increased demand for being an advocate of user data protection. On the bearish side, the analyst remains skeptical that the services segment will grow as much as expected, and that only about 20% to 25% of active users will pay for Apple services.\nThe Apple Maven's take\nRod Hall has not been the first and will not be the last on Wall Street to be proven wrong on a stock rating. Goldman Sachs' position was contrarian, and bold for the same reason. Yet, the Apple Maven believes that Rod Hall’s cautious stance could still be a bit too conservative.\nWhile stay-at-home trends may have distorted fiscal 2020 and early 2021 results, the 5G cycle, the M1 architecture, the expansion of the services portfolio and resilient consumer spending in general may still help to boost Apple's revenue-per-user metric – Goldman’s key concern.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":137,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}