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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2023-06-16
  Watever is.. traps is always exist at all time..
  Market's Starting To Look Like 1987
  iantfoto We are not makers of history. We are made by history. - Martin Luther King, Jr. History doesn't exactly repeat, and we always have to be mindful of comparisons where there isn't a large sample size, but could 2023 play out like 1987?
  Market's Starting To Look Like 1987
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2023-05-19
  Big traps
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2023-04-08
  Soud good but trap many..all unseen
  March Jobs Report Shows Hiring Slows, Unemployment Rate Steady at 3.5%
  The March jobs report showed the U.S. labor market remains strong, likely keeping the pressure on th
  March Jobs Report Shows Hiring Slows, Unemployment Rate Steady at 3.5%
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2022-10-18
  Unpredictable there is all I can said..
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2022-10-05
  If not apple to apple then will have differ outcomes
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2022-10-05
  Problem is how dip is dip?
  Cathie Wood Bought the TSLA Stock Dip, Should You?
  Tesla stock has rebounded since its dip yesterday.Part of the reason is likely due to an investment
  Cathie Wood Bought the TSLA Stock Dip, Should You?
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2022-10-01
  //@little giant: How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity? furthermore others industries also facing same problems right?
  Tesla: A New Problem Is Emerging
  SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has
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- little giantlittle giant
  ·2022-10-01
  How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity?
  Tesla: A New Problem Is Emerging
  SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has
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We are made by history. - Martin Luther King, Jr.History doesn't exactly repeat, and we always have to be mindful of comparisons where there isn't a large sample size, but could 2023 play out like 1987?TwitterThe Stock Market in 1987: A SynopsisThe Phenomenon of the \"Melt-Up\"In 1987, the stock market experienced a unique phenomenon known as a \"melt-up.\" This occurrence is characterized by a sharp improvement in the performance of the stock market due to a surge in market sentiment and investor interest. During such a phase, stock prices escalate rapidly, often outpacing their underlying fundamentals. The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) had a significant move for several months, and good times were rolling.The Crash of 1987Following the melt-up, the market faced a significant downturn, popularly known as the \"Black Monday\" crash. On October 19, 1987, the Dow Jones Industrial Average plummeted by almost 22%, marking its biggest single-day decline.The Role of the Federal ReserveThe Federal Reserve played a pivotal role during this tumultuous period in 1987. The central bank adjusted its policies and interest rates in an attempt to stabilize the market. These actions had far-reaching implications, influencing not only the U.S. economy but also the global financial markets.Market Performance: Comparing 1987 and 2023Market GainsIn 1987, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) at this point year to date was up 25%, while the NASDAQ 100-Index (NDX, QQQ) in 2023 so far is up a staggering 39%, mainly driven by manic behavior in select stocks around AI such as Nvidia (NVDA) and Microsoft (MSFT). History doesn't repeat but often rhymes, and a year-to-date path correlation of 0.74 is worth focusing on.Market SentimentMarket sentiment plays a significant role in driving stock market trends. The overconfidence and bullish sentiment observed in 2023 likely resembles the market mood of 1987. This similarity raises the question of whether history might repeat itself, leading to a potential market correction or downturn.TwitterConclusion: No One KnowsWhile the comparison between the stock market in 1987 and 2023 offers intriguing insights, it is crucial to remember that the stock market's performance is influenced by a multitude of factors. Therefore, predicting its trajectory with absolute certainty is impossible.I am the furthest away from being a perma-bear, or perma-bull, as possible. The one commonality between bulls and bears is overconfidence. My base case I said back in January remains the same.TwitterBe careful of falling for the AI narrative of the moment. The melt-up in the NASDAQ isn't driven by AI. 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Those figures dropped just hours before Silicon Valley Bank was seized by regulators, however, with Signature Bank also closed by regulators two days later on Sunday, March 10.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Notable impacts from the bank crisis, however, weren&#39;t expected to feature in Friday&#39;s report.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".DJI":"道琼斯",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191555077","content_text":"The March jobs report showed the U.S. labor market remains strong, likely keeping the pressure on the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates in its efforts to slow inflation.The U.S. economy added 236,000 jobs last month as the unemployment rate held steady at 3.5%, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Friday showed.Here are the key figures from the report, compared to last month's revised numbers:Nonfarm payrolls: +236,000 vs. +326,000Unemployment rate: 3.5% vs. 3.6%Average hourly earnings, month-over-month: +0.3% vs. +0.2%Average hourly earnings, year-over-year: 4.2% vs. +4.6%In February, the economy added 311,000 new jobs while the unemployment rate rose to 3.6% amid an uptick in participation.February's jobs report served as a firm-enough signal for the Fed to proceed with a planned interest rate hike. Those figures dropped just hours before Silicon Valley Bank was seized by regulators, however, with Signature Bank also closed by regulators two days later on Sunday, March 10.Notable impacts from the bank crisis, however, weren't expected to feature in Friday's report.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":372,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9989468111,"gmtCreate":1666061930533,"gmtModify":1676537699546,"author":{"id":"4110688432714352","authorId":"4110688432714352","name":"little giant","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8a74ceeaf3c96219ff8f7bb9e514f5c3","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110688432714352","authorIdStr":"4110688432714352"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Unpredictable there is all I can said..","listText":"Unpredictable there is all I can said..","text":"Unpredictable there is all I can said..","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9989468111","repostId":"2276133333","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":460,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9915314493,"gmtCreate":1664956621712,"gmtModify":1676537535693,"author":{"id":"4110688432714352","authorId":"4110688432714352","name":"little giant","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8a74ceeaf3c96219ff8f7bb9e514f5c3","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110688432714352","authorIdStr":"4110688432714352"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"If not apple to apple then will have differ outcomes&nbsp;","listText":"If not apple to apple then will have differ outcomes&nbsp;","text":"If not apple to apple then will have differ outcomes","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9915314493","repostId":"2273790857","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":576,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9915922208,"gmtCreate":1664939380704,"gmtModify":1676537533010,"author":{"id":"4110688432714352","authorId":"4110688432714352","name":"little giant","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8a74ceeaf3c96219ff8f7bb9e514f5c3","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110688432714352","authorIdStr":"4110688432714352"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Problem is how dip is dip?","listText":"Problem is how dip is dip?","text":"Problem is how dip is dip?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9915922208","repostId":"1143143787","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1143143787","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1664951047,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1143143787?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-10-05 14:24","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Cathie Wood Bought the TSLA Stock Dip, Should You?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1143143787","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Tesla stock has rebounded since its dip yesterday.Part of the reason is likely due to an investment ","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> stock has rebounded since its dip yesterday.</li><li>Part of the reason is likely due to an investment from famed investor Cathie Wood.</li><li>The market contrarian made her bet after Tesla reported disappointing delivery statistics.</li></ul><p>Cathie Wood is continuing her streak of betting on beaten-down stocks. The founder of Ark Investment Management recently purchased 132,213 shares of <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>. In perfect Wood fashion, this comes after a difficult month for the company. TSLA stock has shed more than 33% of its value over the past six months, despite enacting a successful stock split. While it is trending upward today, it is still down 8% for the month. Yesterday, shares slumped even more after the electric vehicle (EV) leader’s quarterly deliveries fell short of Wall Street expectations. But Wood clearly sees Tesla’s recent losing streak as an opportunity to buy a growth stock on the dip.</p><p>Let’s take a closer look at her logic and what it may mean for investors.</p><h3>What’s Happening With TSLA Stock</h3><p>Since news broke of Wood’s purchase, TSLA stock has been rising all day. Despite some volatility, it is up 2.9% on Tuesday. According to data from Bloomberg, this investment represents Wood’s first TSLA stock purchase since June 2022.  Her flagship ARK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA:ARKK) purchased 108,380 shares while the tech-focused ARK Autonomous Technology &amp; Robotics ETF (BATS:ARKQ) added 23,833. Tesla remains the top holding for Wood’s flagship fund, with a value of more than $738 million.</p><p>Wood began September 2022 by selling TSLA stock. Just a few weeks after, though, she made it clear that she remains highly bullish on it. While speaking to CNBC’s Squawk Box she stated:</p><blockquote>We have used Tesla to trade around but it’s our top holding still, and our confidence couldn’t be higher as we see the movement towards electric vehicles accelerates. We are pretty excited about the next five years.</blockquote><p>Her holdings may see significant growth before five years have passed, though. InvestorPlace Senior Investment Analyst Luke Lango recently made the case for why he believes some of Wood’s beaten-down tech holdings will “rebound enormously” in 2023. While Lango noted that 2022 has been an extremely difficult year for the type of high-growth tech stocks that Wood favors, he remains steadfast in his prediction that they could double in the coming year. He sees the macroeconomic headwinds that pushed Wood’s stocks down in 2022 shifting in her favor in 2023. As he states:</p><blockquote>Inflation was the bane of Cathie Wood stocks in 2021. But inflation rates will dramatically cool in 2022. With the Fed fully on board to slow the economy, housing and rental costs finally falling, and oil prices remaining weak, inflation will keep cooling at an accelerated pace. Accelerating inflation killed Cathie Wood stocks in 2021. Decelerating inflation will boost them in 2023.</blockquote><h3>What Comes Next</h3><p>Wood clearly sees the same type of economic landscape emerging from the dust of 2022. Her doubling down on TSLA stock suggests she is on a dip buying spree, as do her other recent investments. Wood’s three biggest purchases of the past week are Rocket Lab (NASDAQ:RKLB), UiPath (NYSE:PATH) and Verve Therapeutics (NASDAQ:VERV), all of which have been rising since but remain in the red for the month.</p><p>Clearly Wood sees growth ahead for all three names and likewise for TSLA stock. While the EV leader has taken a blow following its delivery report, it recently turned plenty of heads at AI Day 2022. If the financial landscape does shift as Lango predicts, 2023 could indeed be a breakout year for TSLA stock and Wood’s other beaten-down holdings.</p></body></html>","source":"investorplace","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood Bought the TSLA Stock Dip, Should You?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCathie Wood Bought the TSLA Stock Dip, Should You?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-10-05 14:24 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2022/10/cathie-wood-just-bought-the-tsla-stock-dip-should-you/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock has rebounded since its dip yesterday.Part of the reason is likely due to an investment from famed investor Cathie Wood.The market contrarian made her bet after Tesla reported ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2022/10/cathie-wood-just-bought-the-tsla-stock-dip-should-you/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2022/10/cathie-wood-just-bought-the-tsla-stock-dip-should-you/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1143143787","content_text":"Tesla stock has rebounded since its dip yesterday.Part of the reason is likely due to an investment from famed investor Cathie Wood.The market contrarian made her bet after Tesla reported disappointing delivery statistics.Cathie Wood is continuing her streak of betting on beaten-down stocks. The founder of Ark Investment Management recently purchased 132,213 shares of Tesla. In perfect Wood fashion, this comes after a difficult month for the company. TSLA stock has shed more than 33% of its value over the past six months, despite enacting a successful stock split. While it is trending upward today, it is still down 8% for the month. Yesterday, shares slumped even more after the electric vehicle (EV) leader’s quarterly deliveries fell short of Wall Street expectations. But Wood clearly sees Tesla’s recent losing streak as an opportunity to buy a growth stock on the dip.Let’s take a closer look at her logic and what it may mean for investors.What’s Happening With TSLA StockSince news broke of Wood’s purchase, TSLA stock has been rising all day. Despite some volatility, it is up 2.9% on Tuesday. According to data from Bloomberg, this investment represents Wood’s first TSLA stock purchase since June 2022.  Her flagship ARK Innovation ETF (NYSEARCA:ARKK) purchased 108,380 shares while the tech-focused ARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF (BATS:ARKQ) added 23,833. Tesla remains the top holding for Wood’s flagship fund, with a value of more than $738 million.Wood began September 2022 by selling TSLA stock. Just a few weeks after, though, she made it clear that she remains highly bullish on it. While speaking to CNBC’s Squawk Box she stated:We have used Tesla to trade around but it’s our top holding still, and our confidence couldn’t be higher as we see the movement towards electric vehicles accelerates. We are pretty excited about the next five years.Her holdings may see significant growth before five years have passed, though. InvestorPlace Senior Investment Analyst Luke Lango recently made the case for why he believes some of Wood’s beaten-down tech holdings will “rebound enormously” in 2023. While Lango noted that 2022 has been an extremely difficult year for the type of high-growth tech stocks that Wood favors, he remains steadfast in his prediction that they could double in the coming year. He sees the macroeconomic headwinds that pushed Wood’s stocks down in 2022 shifting in her favor in 2023. As he states:Inflation was the bane of Cathie Wood stocks in 2021. But inflation rates will dramatically cool in 2022. With the Fed fully on board to slow the economy, housing and rental costs finally falling, and oil prices remaining weak, inflation will keep cooling at an accelerated pace. Accelerating inflation killed Cathie Wood stocks in 2021. Decelerating inflation will boost them in 2023.What Comes NextWood clearly sees the same type of economic landscape emerging from the dust of 2022. Her doubling down on TSLA stock suggests she is on a dip buying spree, as do her other recent investments. Wood’s three biggest purchases of the past week are Rocket Lab (NASDAQ:RKLB), UiPath (NYSE:PATH) and Verve Therapeutics (NASDAQ:VERV), all of which have been rising since but remain in the red for the month.Clearly Wood sees growth ahead for all three names and likewise for TSLA stock. While the EV leader has taken a blow following its delivery report, it recently turned plenty of heads at AI Day 2022. If the financial landscape does shift as Lango predicts, 2023 could indeed be a breakout year for TSLA stock and Wood’s other beaten-down holdings.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":769,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9916278519,"gmtCreate":1664613578532,"gmtModify":1676537485301,"author":{"id":"4110688432714352","authorId":"4110688432714352","name":"little giant","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8a74ceeaf3c96219ff8f7bb9e514f5c3","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110688432714352","authorIdStr":"4110688432714352"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"//<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/U/4110688432714352\">@little giant</a>: How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity? furthermore others industries also facing same problems right?","listText":"//<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/U/4110688432714352\">@little giant</a>: How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity? furthermore others industries also facing same problems right?","text":"//@little giant: How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity? furthermore others industries also facing same problems right?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9916278519","repostId":"1193309788","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1193309788","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1664595315,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1193309788?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-10-01 11:35","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: A New Problem Is Emerging","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1193309788","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>The world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.</li><li>With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has become more expensive than fueling a comparable ICE vehicle in Europe, for example.</li><li>With the macro picture getting more dire, highly expensive Tesla does not look like a great investment today.</li></ul><p><b>Article Thesis</b></p><p>Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) is a leading electric vehicle manufacturer. The stock is priced for perfection, however, despite growing competition, rising costs for materials, and a global economic slowdown. On top of that, the ongoing global energy crisis is hurting Tesla in two ways, as I&#39;ll explain in this article. Overall, that means that Tesla does not seem like an attractive pick at current prices, I believe.</p><p><b>The Globe Is Experiencing An Energy Crisis</b></p><p>The world&#39;s hunger for energy continues to grow, as it has for many years. At the same time, ESG mandates and regulatory pressures have led to underinvestment in (fossil) energy production, which has resulted in a tight supply-demand situation. On top of that, the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war has exacerbated issues in global energy markets. That has led to exploding energy prices across all kinds of commodities. Rising gasoline prices have gotten a lot of attention, but price increases were even more pronounced in other areas:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/310db03212b3ca50edd73f7cf9c0099f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Data by YCharts</p><p>WTI is up by just a couple of percentage points over the last year, while gasoline has become 17% more expensive over the last twelve months. Especially in Europe and Asia, price increases of non-oil-based energy products have been way more drastic.</p><p>Natural gas prices in Europe, for example, have exploded upwards by more than 1,000% over the last two years:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/154cf787e37dbe1b284b31742d65d999\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"176\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>theice.com</p><p>Contracts rose from $15 two years ago to more than $200 today, dwarfing the increase in oil prices. Natural gas in Asia, e.g. measured by JKM, has become incredibly more expensive as well. Likewise, electricity has become way more expensive in Europe -- driven, to a large degree, by the huge increase in natural gas prices:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/673c6fced99747383340bf173bad26c9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"257\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>tradingview.com</p><p>Market prices (day-ahead) for electricity soared by several hundred percentage points over the last year in leading European countries such as Germany and France. Price increases for forward months have been even higher, e.g. for the coming winter months.Base load prices for Q1 2023 are north of €500 per MWh in Germany, for example. Peak-load prices for the same quarter are even higher, at close to €800 per MWh.</p><p>In many other markets around the world, electricity is scarce and has become very expensive as well. China is of note, for example. Weather anomalies in the country have led to below-average power generation from hydro, which has led to shortages and steep price increases.</p><p>Overall, we can summarize that energy has become way more expensive in many areas of the world. Oil prices and gasoline prices get a lot of attention, but they have actually not moved up much versus the massive increases by hundreds of percentage points we have seen in electricity, natural gas, and even thermal coal-- which is up 350% over the last five years. Why does this matter for Tesla? Let&#39;s delve into the details.</p><p><b>Impact On Tesla: Items To Consider</b></p><p>So why does it matter that the global energy crisis has led to massive increases in the price of natural gas, electricity, etc. when it comes to an investment in TSLA stock? There are several negative impacts this will have on Tesla, I believe. Some of those are Tesla-specific, others impact other automobile companies as well.</p><p><b>Free Supercharger</b></p><p>First, Tesla will lose more money with the free supercharger for life deal it offered in the past. With electricity costs soaring, those that can charge for free at superchargers will be more inclined to do so. This will mean that Tesla will have to offer more electricity for free. At the same time, that electricity comes at a higher cost for Tesla, as market prices for electricity have soared in important end markets. Overall, this means that Tesla will lose more money on its supercharger-for-life deals than previously thought.</p><p><b>EVs Lose Their Cost Advantage</b></p><p>For a long time, EVs were touted as cheaper than ICE-powered vehicles when it comes to fuel costs. But due to the massive increase in electricity prices, relative to the way more benign increase in gasoline prices, that does no longer hold true. Let&#39;s look at an example.</p><p>The Tesla Model 3 uses 17 kWh per 100 km. A comparable ICE car, such as the BMW 3 series (OTCPK:BMWYY), uses around 5.0 liters of diesel for the same 100 km. When electricity prices were way lower than they are right now, that made for a clear cost advantage for Tesla. But more recently, that&#39;s no longer true -- at least not in all markets. Tesla currently sells electricity for €0.70 per kWh at its superchargers in Germany, where it recently opened one of its Gigafactories, making this an important market for Tesla. That means that driving a Model 3 for 100 km results in fuel expenses of €11.90, or around $11.50. Diesel currently costs €1.98 per liter in Germany on average. The BMW 3 series thus uses €9.90, or $9.60 per 100 km. Using an ICE-powered BMW that is comparable to Tesla&#39;s EV thus costs around 20% less in fuel expenses today in Germany. The former cost advantage for EVs has turned into a cost disadvantage in Europe&#39;s biggest market and one where Tesla thought it had a lot of potential -- otherwise, it wouldn&#39;t have built a Gigafactory there. In other European countries, things are looking comparable. In the UK, for example, the diesel-powered BMW 3 costs around $10 per 100 km, while the Tesla Model 3 costs around $11 per 100 km.</p><p>This means that one of the key arguments for buying an EV, lower fuel costs, is no longer valid, at least in some of Tesla&#39;s markets. In the US, where electricity cost per kWh differs very much from state to state, there are some markets where EVs are still cheaper to fuel. But even in the US, some markets are more favorable for ICE vehicles right now, such as California with its high electricity prices. With this key argument for switching to an EV gone, EV manufacturers such as Tesla could have a harder time convincing consumers to make the switch. Many consumers, especially those that feel the pinch from the current economic slowdown, will ask themselves why they should buy a new vehicle for many thousands of dollars just to have their fuel expenses go up.</p><p><b>Higher Production Costs</b></p><p>The process of manufacturing batteries is highly energy intensive. That energy usually does not come in the form of oil (which has gone up in price only slightly), but typically in the form of electricity -- which has gotten way more expensive. Battery manufacturing thus is feeling a considerable cost headwind in the current environment, and the biggest battery users in the world, such as Tesla, will likely feel the largest impact.</p><p>In Europe and China, energy-intensive manufacturing is oftentimes either unprofitable or forced to scale back due to regulatory demands to conserve energy. This will hinder Tesla&#39;s Gigafactories in Germany and China, making it quite exposed to electricity/energy shortages around the world. EV companies with less exposure to Europe and China, such as Ford with its US focus, could be more advantaged in the current environment, as energy shortages are less pronounced in the United States.</p><p><b>Cash-Strapped Consumers Might Keep Their Cars Longer</b></p><p>With energy prices soaring, especially in Europe, consumer sentiment is falling off a cliff. Consumers have to spend more on essentials such as electricity, heating, and food, which means that they have less money left over for non-essential, discretionary consumer goods.</p><p>Ultra-high-end manufacturers such as Ferrari (RACE) will likely feel less of an impact, as middle-class households don&#39;t buy Ferraris anyway and as very wealthy consumers don&#39;t feel much of a pinch from higher energy costs. But Tesla, along with competitors such as BMW or Audi, could feel an impact from middle class/upper middle class consumers becoming more frugal. When essential expenses are soaring, and when the risk of a job loss increases due to the ongoing economic downturn, many consumers will be more reluctant to acquire a costly new vehicle. One can argue that this is already being reflected by the declining wait times for many of Tesla&#39;s models in China, which is experiencing many of the same headwinds as Europe -- growing energy costs and an economic slowdown.</p><p><b>Summing Things Up</b></p><p>Tesla is a leading EV company. Depending on whether one counts plug-in hybrids or not, it&#39;s either the largest or second-largest EV manufacturer in the world. But the company is highly expensive, trading at well above 60x forward earnings, while traditional auto peers such as Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGYY) trade at less than 5x forward profits. Competition is growing, input costs are rising quickly, and consumer discretionary companies including Tesla are highly exposed to a global economic downturn.</p><p>Add the above issues stemming from the global energy shortage, such as waning advantages for EVs due to high charging costs and Tesla&#39;s growing costs for its supercharger-for-life deals, and it does not look like Tesla is a good buy today. Last but not least, rising interest rates are pressuring all equities, but have the largest impact on long-duration stocks such as Tesla. Overall, I see more reasons to be bearish than to be bullish right here, which is why I think Tesla is an avoid today, although I have no intention of going short the stock.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: A New Problem Is Emerging</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: A New Problem Is Emerging\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-10-01 11:35 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4543975-tesla-stock-new-problem-emerging><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4543975-tesla-stock-new-problem-emerging\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4543975-tesla-stock-new-problem-emerging","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1193309788","content_text":"SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has become more expensive than fueling a comparable ICE vehicle in Europe, for example.With the macro picture getting more dire, highly expensive Tesla does not look like a great investment today.Article ThesisTesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) is a leading electric vehicle manufacturer. The stock is priced for perfection, however, despite growing competition, rising costs for materials, and a global economic slowdown. On top of that, the ongoing global energy crisis is hurting Tesla in two ways, as I'll explain in this article. Overall, that means that Tesla does not seem like an attractive pick at current prices, I believe.The Globe Is Experiencing An Energy CrisisThe world's hunger for energy continues to grow, as it has for many years. At the same time, ESG mandates and regulatory pressures have led to underinvestment in (fossil) energy production, which has resulted in a tight supply-demand situation. On top of that, the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war has exacerbated issues in global energy markets. That has led to exploding energy prices across all kinds of commodities. Rising gasoline prices have gotten a lot of attention, but price increases were even more pronounced in other areas:Data by YChartsWTI is up by just a couple of percentage points over the last year, while gasoline has become 17% more expensive over the last twelve months. Especially in Europe and Asia, price increases of non-oil-based energy products have been way more drastic.Natural gas prices in Europe, for example, have exploded upwards by more than 1,000% over the last two years:theice.comContracts rose from $15 two years ago to more than $200 today, dwarfing the increase in oil prices. Natural gas in Asia, e.g. measured by JKM, has become incredibly more expensive as well. Likewise, electricity has become way more expensive in Europe -- driven, to a large degree, by the huge increase in natural gas prices:tradingview.comMarket prices (day-ahead) for electricity soared by several hundred percentage points over the last year in leading European countries such as Germany and France. Price increases for forward months have been even higher, e.g. for the coming winter months.Base load prices for Q1 2023 are north of €500 per MWh in Germany, for example. Peak-load prices for the same quarter are even higher, at close to €800 per MWh.In many other markets around the world, electricity is scarce and has become very expensive as well. China is of note, for example. Weather anomalies in the country have led to below-average power generation from hydro, which has led to shortages and steep price increases.Overall, we can summarize that energy has become way more expensive in many areas of the world. Oil prices and gasoline prices get a lot of attention, but they have actually not moved up much versus the massive increases by hundreds of percentage points we have seen in electricity, natural gas, and even thermal coal-- which is up 350% over the last five years. Why does this matter for Tesla? Let's delve into the details.Impact On Tesla: Items To ConsiderSo why does it matter that the global energy crisis has led to massive increases in the price of natural gas, electricity, etc. when it comes to an investment in TSLA stock? There are several negative impacts this will have on Tesla, I believe. Some of those are Tesla-specific, others impact other automobile companies as well.Free SuperchargerFirst, Tesla will lose more money with the free supercharger for life deal it offered in the past. With electricity costs soaring, those that can charge for free at superchargers will be more inclined to do so. This will mean that Tesla will have to offer more electricity for free. At the same time, that electricity comes at a higher cost for Tesla, as market prices for electricity have soared in important end markets. Overall, this means that Tesla will lose more money on its supercharger-for-life deals than previously thought.EVs Lose Their Cost AdvantageFor a long time, EVs were touted as cheaper than ICE-powered vehicles when it comes to fuel costs. But due to the massive increase in electricity prices, relative to the way more benign increase in gasoline prices, that does no longer hold true. Let's look at an example.The Tesla Model 3 uses 17 kWh per 100 km. A comparable ICE car, such as the BMW 3 series (OTCPK:BMWYY), uses around 5.0 liters of diesel for the same 100 km. When electricity prices were way lower than they are right now, that made for a clear cost advantage for Tesla. But more recently, that's no longer true -- at least not in all markets. Tesla currently sells electricity for €0.70 per kWh at its superchargers in Germany, where it recently opened one of its Gigafactories, making this an important market for Tesla. That means that driving a Model 3 for 100 km results in fuel expenses of €11.90, or around $11.50. Diesel currently costs €1.98 per liter in Germany on average. The BMW 3 series thus uses €9.90, or $9.60 per 100 km. Using an ICE-powered BMW that is comparable to Tesla's EV thus costs around 20% less in fuel expenses today in Germany. The former cost advantage for EVs has turned into a cost disadvantage in Europe's biggest market and one where Tesla thought it had a lot of potential -- otherwise, it wouldn't have built a Gigafactory there. In other European countries, things are looking comparable. In the UK, for example, the diesel-powered BMW 3 costs around $10 per 100 km, while the Tesla Model 3 costs around $11 per 100 km.This means that one of the key arguments for buying an EV, lower fuel costs, is no longer valid, at least in some of Tesla's markets. In the US, where electricity cost per kWh differs very much from state to state, there are some markets where EVs are still cheaper to fuel. But even in the US, some markets are more favorable for ICE vehicles right now, such as California with its high electricity prices. With this key argument for switching to an EV gone, EV manufacturers such as Tesla could have a harder time convincing consumers to make the switch. Many consumers, especially those that feel the pinch from the current economic slowdown, will ask themselves why they should buy a new vehicle for many thousands of dollars just to have their fuel expenses go up.Higher Production CostsThe process of manufacturing batteries is highly energy intensive. That energy usually does not come in the form of oil (which has gone up in price only slightly), but typically in the form of electricity -- which has gotten way more expensive. Battery manufacturing thus is feeling a considerable cost headwind in the current environment, and the biggest battery users in the world, such as Tesla, will likely feel the largest impact.In Europe and China, energy-intensive manufacturing is oftentimes either unprofitable or forced to scale back due to regulatory demands to conserve energy. This will hinder Tesla's Gigafactories in Germany and China, making it quite exposed to electricity/energy shortages around the world. EV companies with less exposure to Europe and China, such as Ford with its US focus, could be more advantaged in the current environment, as energy shortages are less pronounced in the United States.Cash-Strapped Consumers Might Keep Their Cars LongerWith energy prices soaring, especially in Europe, consumer sentiment is falling off a cliff. Consumers have to spend more on essentials such as electricity, heating, and food, which means that they have less money left over for non-essential, discretionary consumer goods.Ultra-high-end manufacturers such as Ferrari (RACE) will likely feel less of an impact, as middle-class households don't buy Ferraris anyway and as very wealthy consumers don't feel much of a pinch from higher energy costs. But Tesla, along with competitors such as BMW or Audi, could feel an impact from middle class/upper middle class consumers becoming more frugal. When essential expenses are soaring, and when the risk of a job loss increases due to the ongoing economic downturn, many consumers will be more reluctant to acquire a costly new vehicle. One can argue that this is already being reflected by the declining wait times for many of Tesla's models in China, which is experiencing many of the same headwinds as Europe -- growing energy costs and an economic slowdown.Summing Things UpTesla is a leading EV company. Depending on whether one counts plug-in hybrids or not, it's either the largest or second-largest EV manufacturer in the world. But the company is highly expensive, trading at well above 60x forward earnings, while traditional auto peers such as Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGYY) trade at less than 5x forward profits. Competition is growing, input costs are rising quickly, and consumer discretionary companies including Tesla are highly exposed to a global economic downturn.Add the above issues stemming from the global energy shortage, such as waning advantages for EVs due to high charging costs and Tesla's growing costs for its supercharger-for-life deals, and it does not look like Tesla is a good buy today. Last but not least, rising interest rates are pressuring all equities, but have the largest impact on long-duration stocks such as Tesla. Overall, I see more reasons to be bearish than to be bullish right here, which is why I think Tesla is an avoid today, although I have no intention of going short the stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":558,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9916254543,"gmtCreate":1664608333682,"gmtModify":1676537484810,"author":{"id":"4110688432714352","authorId":"4110688432714352","name":"little giant","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8a74ceeaf3c96219ff8f7bb9e514f5c3","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110688432714352","authorIdStr":"4110688432714352"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity?","listText":"How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity?","text":"How with environmental protection? Is it far more expensive then electricity?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9916254543","repostId":"1193309788","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1193309788","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1664595315,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1193309788?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-10-01 11:35","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: A New Problem Is Emerging","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1193309788","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>The world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.</li><li>With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has become more expensive than fueling a comparable ICE vehicle in Europe, for example.</li><li>With the macro picture getting more dire, highly expensive Tesla does not look like a great investment today.</li></ul><p><b>Article Thesis</b></p><p>Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) is a leading electric vehicle manufacturer. The stock is priced for perfection, however, despite growing competition, rising costs for materials, and a global economic slowdown. On top of that, the ongoing global energy crisis is hurting Tesla in two ways, as I&#39;ll explain in this article. Overall, that means that Tesla does not seem like an attractive pick at current prices, I believe.</p><p><b>The Globe Is Experiencing An Energy Crisis</b></p><p>The world&#39;s hunger for energy continues to grow, as it has for many years. At the same time, ESG mandates and regulatory pressures have led to underinvestment in (fossil) energy production, which has resulted in a tight supply-demand situation. On top of that, the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war has exacerbated issues in global energy markets. That has led to exploding energy prices across all kinds of commodities. Rising gasoline prices have gotten a lot of attention, but price increases were even more pronounced in other areas:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/310db03212b3ca50edd73f7cf9c0099f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Data by YCharts</p><p>WTI is up by just a couple of percentage points over the last year, while gasoline has become 17% more expensive over the last twelve months. Especially in Europe and Asia, price increases of non-oil-based energy products have been way more drastic.</p><p>Natural gas prices in Europe, for example, have exploded upwards by more than 1,000% over the last two years:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/154cf787e37dbe1b284b31742d65d999\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"176\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>theice.com</p><p>Contracts rose from $15 two years ago to more than $200 today, dwarfing the increase in oil prices. Natural gas in Asia, e.g. measured by JKM, has become incredibly more expensive as well. Likewise, electricity has become way more expensive in Europe -- driven, to a large degree, by the huge increase in natural gas prices:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/673c6fced99747383340bf173bad26c9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"257\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>tradingview.com</p><p>Market prices (day-ahead) for electricity soared by several hundred percentage points over the last year in leading European countries such as Germany and France. Price increases for forward months have been even higher, e.g. for the coming winter months.Base load prices for Q1 2023 are north of €500 per MWh in Germany, for example. Peak-load prices for the same quarter are even higher, at close to €800 per MWh.</p><p>In many other markets around the world, electricity is scarce and has become very expensive as well. China is of note, for example. Weather anomalies in the country have led to below-average power generation from hydro, which has led to shortages and steep price increases.</p><p>Overall, we can summarize that energy has become way more expensive in many areas of the world. Oil prices and gasoline prices get a lot of attention, but they have actually not moved up much versus the massive increases by hundreds of percentage points we have seen in electricity, natural gas, and even thermal coal-- which is up 350% over the last five years. Why does this matter for Tesla? Let&#39;s delve into the details.</p><p><b>Impact On Tesla: Items To Consider</b></p><p>So why does it matter that the global energy crisis has led to massive increases in the price of natural gas, electricity, etc. when it comes to an investment in TSLA stock? There are several negative impacts this will have on Tesla, I believe. Some of those are Tesla-specific, others impact other automobile companies as well.</p><p><b>Free Supercharger</b></p><p>First, Tesla will lose more money with the free supercharger for life deal it offered in the past. With electricity costs soaring, those that can charge for free at superchargers will be more inclined to do so. This will mean that Tesla will have to offer more electricity for free. At the same time, that electricity comes at a higher cost for Tesla, as market prices for electricity have soared in important end markets. Overall, this means that Tesla will lose more money on its supercharger-for-life deals than previously thought.</p><p><b>EVs Lose Their Cost Advantage</b></p><p>For a long time, EVs were touted as cheaper than ICE-powered vehicles when it comes to fuel costs. But due to the massive increase in electricity prices, relative to the way more benign increase in gasoline prices, that does no longer hold true. Let&#39;s look at an example.</p><p>The Tesla Model 3 uses 17 kWh per 100 km. A comparable ICE car, such as the BMW 3 series (OTCPK:BMWYY), uses around 5.0 liters of diesel for the same 100 km. When electricity prices were way lower than they are right now, that made for a clear cost advantage for Tesla. But more recently, that&#39;s no longer true -- at least not in all markets. Tesla currently sells electricity for €0.70 per kWh at its superchargers in Germany, where it recently opened one of its Gigafactories, making this an important market for Tesla. That means that driving a Model 3 for 100 km results in fuel expenses of €11.90, or around $11.50. Diesel currently costs €1.98 per liter in Germany on average. The BMW 3 series thus uses €9.90, or $9.60 per 100 km. Using an ICE-powered BMW that is comparable to Tesla&#39;s EV thus costs around 20% less in fuel expenses today in Germany. The former cost advantage for EVs has turned into a cost disadvantage in Europe&#39;s biggest market and one where Tesla thought it had a lot of potential -- otherwise, it wouldn&#39;t have built a Gigafactory there. In other European countries, things are looking comparable. In the UK, for example, the diesel-powered BMW 3 costs around $10 per 100 km, while the Tesla Model 3 costs around $11 per 100 km.</p><p>This means that one of the key arguments for buying an EV, lower fuel costs, is no longer valid, at least in some of Tesla&#39;s markets. In the US, where electricity cost per kWh differs very much from state to state, there are some markets where EVs are still cheaper to fuel. But even in the US, some markets are more favorable for ICE vehicles right now, such as California with its high electricity prices. With this key argument for switching to an EV gone, EV manufacturers such as Tesla could have a harder time convincing consumers to make the switch. Many consumers, especially those that feel the pinch from the current economic slowdown, will ask themselves why they should buy a new vehicle for many thousands of dollars just to have their fuel expenses go up.</p><p><b>Higher Production Costs</b></p><p>The process of manufacturing batteries is highly energy intensive. That energy usually does not come in the form of oil (which has gone up in price only slightly), but typically in the form of electricity -- which has gotten way more expensive. Battery manufacturing thus is feeling a considerable cost headwind in the current environment, and the biggest battery users in the world, such as Tesla, will likely feel the largest impact.</p><p>In Europe and China, energy-intensive manufacturing is oftentimes either unprofitable or forced to scale back due to regulatory demands to conserve energy. This will hinder Tesla&#39;s Gigafactories in Germany and China, making it quite exposed to electricity/energy shortages around the world. EV companies with less exposure to Europe and China, such as Ford with its US focus, could be more advantaged in the current environment, as energy shortages are less pronounced in the United States.</p><p><b>Cash-Strapped Consumers Might Keep Their Cars Longer</b></p><p>With energy prices soaring, especially in Europe, consumer sentiment is falling off a cliff. Consumers have to spend more on essentials such as electricity, heating, and food, which means that they have less money left over for non-essential, discretionary consumer goods.</p><p>Ultra-high-end manufacturers such as Ferrari (RACE) will likely feel less of an impact, as middle-class households don&#39;t buy Ferraris anyway and as very wealthy consumers don&#39;t feel much of a pinch from higher energy costs. But Tesla, along with competitors such as BMW or Audi, could feel an impact from middle class/upper middle class consumers becoming more frugal. When essential expenses are soaring, and when the risk of a job loss increases due to the ongoing economic downturn, many consumers will be more reluctant to acquire a costly new vehicle. One can argue that this is already being reflected by the declining wait times for many of Tesla&#39;s models in China, which is experiencing many of the same headwinds as Europe -- growing energy costs and an economic slowdown.</p><p><b>Summing Things Up</b></p><p>Tesla is a leading EV company. Depending on whether one counts plug-in hybrids or not, it&#39;s either the largest or second-largest EV manufacturer in the world. But the company is highly expensive, trading at well above 60x forward earnings, while traditional auto peers such as Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGYY) trade at less than 5x forward profits. Competition is growing, input costs are rising quickly, and consumer discretionary companies including Tesla are highly exposed to a global economic downturn.</p><p>Add the above issues stemming from the global energy shortage, such as waning advantages for EVs due to high charging costs and Tesla&#39;s growing costs for its supercharger-for-life deals, and it does not look like Tesla is a good buy today. Last but not least, rising interest rates are pressuring all equities, but have the largest impact on long-duration stocks such as Tesla. Overall, I see more reasons to be bearish than to be bullish right here, which is why I think Tesla is an avoid today, although I have no intention of going short the stock.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: A New Problem Is Emerging</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: A New Problem Is Emerging\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-10-01 11:35 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4543975-tesla-stock-new-problem-emerging><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4543975-tesla-stock-new-problem-emerging\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4543975-tesla-stock-new-problem-emerging","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1193309788","content_text":"SummaryThe world is experiencing an energy crisis. Costs for natural gas, electricity, etc. are exploding.With soaring electricity costs, EVs are losing their fuel cost advantage. Charging a Tesla has become more expensive than fueling a comparable ICE vehicle in Europe, for example.With the macro picture getting more dire, highly expensive Tesla does not look like a great investment today.Article ThesisTesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) is a leading electric vehicle manufacturer. The stock is priced for perfection, however, despite growing competition, rising costs for materials, and a global economic slowdown. On top of that, the ongoing global energy crisis is hurting Tesla in two ways, as I'll explain in this article. Overall, that means that Tesla does not seem like an attractive pick at current prices, I believe.The Globe Is Experiencing An Energy CrisisThe world's hunger for energy continues to grow, as it has for many years. At the same time, ESG mandates and regulatory pressures have led to underinvestment in (fossil) energy production, which has resulted in a tight supply-demand situation. On top of that, the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war has exacerbated issues in global energy markets. That has led to exploding energy prices across all kinds of commodities. Rising gasoline prices have gotten a lot of attention, but price increases were even more pronounced in other areas:Data by YChartsWTI is up by just a couple of percentage points over the last year, while gasoline has become 17% more expensive over the last twelve months. Especially in Europe and Asia, price increases of non-oil-based energy products have been way more drastic.Natural gas prices in Europe, for example, have exploded upwards by more than 1,000% over the last two years:theice.comContracts rose from $15 two years ago to more than $200 today, dwarfing the increase in oil prices. Natural gas in Asia, e.g. measured by JKM, has become incredibly more expensive as well. Likewise, electricity has become way more expensive in Europe -- driven, to a large degree, by the huge increase in natural gas prices:tradingview.comMarket prices (day-ahead) for electricity soared by several hundred percentage points over the last year in leading European countries such as Germany and France. Price increases for forward months have been even higher, e.g. for the coming winter months.Base load prices for Q1 2023 are north of €500 per MWh in Germany, for example. Peak-load prices for the same quarter are even higher, at close to €800 per MWh.In many other markets around the world, electricity is scarce and has become very expensive as well. China is of note, for example. Weather anomalies in the country have led to below-average power generation from hydro, which has led to shortages and steep price increases.Overall, we can summarize that energy has become way more expensive in many areas of the world. Oil prices and gasoline prices get a lot of attention, but they have actually not moved up much versus the massive increases by hundreds of percentage points we have seen in electricity, natural gas, and even thermal coal-- which is up 350% over the last five years. Why does this matter for Tesla? Let's delve into the details.Impact On Tesla: Items To ConsiderSo why does it matter that the global energy crisis has led to massive increases in the price of natural gas, electricity, etc. when it comes to an investment in TSLA stock? There are several negative impacts this will have on Tesla, I believe. Some of those are Tesla-specific, others impact other automobile companies as well.Free SuperchargerFirst, Tesla will lose more money with the free supercharger for life deal it offered in the past. With electricity costs soaring, those that can charge for free at superchargers will be more inclined to do so. This will mean that Tesla will have to offer more electricity for free. At the same time, that electricity comes at a higher cost for Tesla, as market prices for electricity have soared in important end markets. Overall, this means that Tesla will lose more money on its supercharger-for-life deals than previously thought.EVs Lose Their Cost AdvantageFor a long time, EVs were touted as cheaper than ICE-powered vehicles when it comes to fuel costs. But due to the massive increase in electricity prices, relative to the way more benign increase in gasoline prices, that does no longer hold true. Let's look at an example.The Tesla Model 3 uses 17 kWh per 100 km. A comparable ICE car, such as the BMW 3 series (OTCPK:BMWYY), uses around 5.0 liters of diesel for the same 100 km. When electricity prices were way lower than they are right now, that made for a clear cost advantage for Tesla. But more recently, that's no longer true -- at least not in all markets. Tesla currently sells electricity for €0.70 per kWh at its superchargers in Germany, where it recently opened one of its Gigafactories, making this an important market for Tesla. That means that driving a Model 3 for 100 km results in fuel expenses of €11.90, or around $11.50. Diesel currently costs €1.98 per liter in Germany on average. The BMW 3 series thus uses €9.90, or $9.60 per 100 km. Using an ICE-powered BMW that is comparable to Tesla's EV thus costs around 20% less in fuel expenses today in Germany. The former cost advantage for EVs has turned into a cost disadvantage in Europe's biggest market and one where Tesla thought it had a lot of potential -- otherwise, it wouldn't have built a Gigafactory there. In other European countries, things are looking comparable. In the UK, for example, the diesel-powered BMW 3 costs around $10 per 100 km, while the Tesla Model 3 costs around $11 per 100 km.This means that one of the key arguments for buying an EV, lower fuel costs, is no longer valid, at least in some of Tesla's markets. In the US, where electricity cost per kWh differs very much from state to state, there are some markets where EVs are still cheaper to fuel. But even in the US, some markets are more favorable for ICE vehicles right now, such as California with its high electricity prices. With this key argument for switching to an EV gone, EV manufacturers such as Tesla could have a harder time convincing consumers to make the switch. Many consumers, especially those that feel the pinch from the current economic slowdown, will ask themselves why they should buy a new vehicle for many thousands of dollars just to have their fuel expenses go up.Higher Production CostsThe process of manufacturing batteries is highly energy intensive. That energy usually does not come in the form of oil (which has gone up in price only slightly), but typically in the form of electricity -- which has gotten way more expensive. Battery manufacturing thus is feeling a considerable cost headwind in the current environment, and the biggest battery users in the world, such as Tesla, will likely feel the largest impact.In Europe and China, energy-intensive manufacturing is oftentimes either unprofitable or forced to scale back due to regulatory demands to conserve energy. This will hinder Tesla's Gigafactories in Germany and China, making it quite exposed to electricity/energy shortages around the world. EV companies with less exposure to Europe and China, such as Ford with its US focus, could be more advantaged in the current environment, as energy shortages are less pronounced in the United States.Cash-Strapped Consumers Might Keep Their Cars LongerWith energy prices soaring, especially in Europe, consumer sentiment is falling off a cliff. Consumers have to spend more on essentials such as electricity, heating, and food, which means that they have less money left over for non-essential, discretionary consumer goods.Ultra-high-end manufacturers such as Ferrari (RACE) will likely feel less of an impact, as middle-class households don't buy Ferraris anyway and as very wealthy consumers don't feel much of a pinch from higher energy costs. But Tesla, along with competitors such as BMW or Audi, could feel an impact from middle class/upper middle class consumers becoming more frugal. When essential expenses are soaring, and when the risk of a job loss increases due to the ongoing economic downturn, many consumers will be more reluctant to acquire a costly new vehicle. One can argue that this is already being reflected by the declining wait times for many of Tesla's models in China, which is experiencing many of the same headwinds as Europe -- growing energy costs and an economic slowdown.Summing Things UpTesla is a leading EV company. Depending on whether one counts plug-in hybrids or not, it's either the largest or second-largest EV manufacturer in the world. But the company is highly expensive, trading at well above 60x forward earnings, while traditional auto peers such as Mercedes (OTCPK:MBGYY) trade at less than 5x forward profits. Competition is growing, input costs are rising quickly, and consumer discretionary companies including Tesla are highly exposed to a global economic downturn.Add the above issues stemming from the global energy shortage, such as waning advantages for EVs due to high charging costs and Tesla's growing costs for its supercharger-for-life deals, and it does not look like Tesla is a good buy today. Last but not least, rising interest rates are pressuring all equities, but have the largest impact on long-duration stocks such as Tesla. Overall, I see more reasons to be bearish than to be bullish right here, which is why I think Tesla is an avoid today, although I have no intention of going short the stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":451,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}