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  These 4 Measures Indicate That Fonterra Co-operative Group (NZSE:FCG) Is Using Debt Reasonably Well
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prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.'  When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin.  We note that <strong>Fonterra Co-operative Group Limited</strong> (NZSE:FCG) does have debt on its balance sheet.  But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt? </p><h2> When Is Debt A Problem? </h2><p> Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow.   In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors.  However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet.  By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return.  The first step when considering a company's debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together. </p> <p><span> View our latest analysis for Fonterra Co-operative Group </span></p><h2> How Much Debt Does Fonterra Co-operative Group Carry? </h2><p> As you can see below, Fonterra Co-operative Group had NZ$4.64b of debt at January 2024, down from NZ$5.14b a year prior.    However, because it has a cash reserve of NZ$239.0m, its net debt is less, at about NZ$4.40b.  </p><figure><img height=\"526\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://images.simplywall.st/asset/chart/3734523-debt-equity-history-analysis-1-dark/1714413724640\" width=\"821\"/><figcaption>NZSE:FCG Debt to Equity History April 29th 2024</figcaption></figure><h2> How Strong Is Fonterra Co-operative Group's Balance Sheet? </h2><p> Zooming in on the latest balance sheet data, we can see that Fonterra Co-operative Group had liabilities of NZ$6.53b due within 12 months and liabilities of NZ$3.63b due beyond that.    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Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses. </p> <p> We'd say that Fonterra Co-operative Group's moderate net debt to EBITDA ratio ( being 1.8), indicates prudence when it comes to debt.  And its commanding EBIT of 10.1 times its interest expense, implies the debt load is as light as a peacock feather.        It is well worth noting that Fonterra Co-operative Group's EBIT shot up like bamboo after rain, gaining 33% in the last twelve months. That'll make it easier to manage its debt.      When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start.  But it is Fonterra Co-operative Group's earnings that will influence how the balance sheet holds up in the future.  So when considering debt, it's definitely worth looking at the earnings trend. Click here for an interactive snapshot. </p><p> Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits.   So the logical step is to look at the proportion of that EBIT that is matched by actual free cash flow.    Over the most recent three years, Fonterra Co-operative Group recorded free cash flow worth 68% of its EBIT, which is around normal, given free cash flow excludes interest and tax.  This cold hard cash means it can reduce its debt when it wants to.   </p> <h2>Our View</h2><p> Fonterra Co-operative Group's level of total liabilities was a real negative on this analysis, although the other factors we considered were considerably better.   In particular, we are dazzled with its EBIT growth rate.       Looking at all this data makes us feel a little cautious about Fonterra Co-operative Group's debt levels.  While debt does have its upside in higher potential returns, we think shareholders should definitely consider how debt levels might make the stock more risky.    There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet.  However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it.   For example - Fonterra Co-operative Group has  <strong> 2 warning signs </strong>  we think you should be aware of.   </p> <p> At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free. </p><div><h3>Valuation is complex, but we're helping make it simple.</h3><p>Find out whether Fonterra Co-operative Group is potentially over or undervalued by checking out our comprehensive analysis, which includes <strong>fair value estimates, risks and warnings, dividends, insider transactions and financial health.</strong></p>View the Free Analysis</div><p><strong>Have feedback on this article? 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When we ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://simplywall.st/stocks/nz/food-beverage-tobacco/nzx-fcg/fonterra-co-operative-group-shares/news/these-4-measures-indicate-that-fonterra-co-operative-group-n-1\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://images.simplywall.st/asset/company-cover/3734523-main-header/1585190732552","relate_stocks":{"FCG":"First Trust Natural Gas ETF"},"source_url":"https://simplywall.st/stocks/nz/food-beverage-tobacco/nzx-fcg/fonterra-co-operative-group-shares/news/these-4-measures-indicate-that-fonterra-co-operative-group-n-1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2431016847","content_text":"Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.'  When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin.  We note that Fonterra Co-operative Group Limited (NZSE:FCG) does have debt on its balance sheet.  But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?  When Is Debt A Problem?  Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow.   In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors.  However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet.  By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return.  The first step when considering a company's debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together.   View our latest analysis for Fonterra Co-operative Group  How Much Debt Does Fonterra Co-operative Group Carry?  As you can see below, Fonterra Co-operative Group had NZ$4.64b of debt at January 2024, down from NZ$5.14b a year prior.    However, because it has a cash reserve of NZ$239.0m, its net debt is less, at about NZ$4.40b.  NZSE:FCG Debt to Equity History April 29th 2024 How Strong Is Fonterra Co-operative Group's Balance Sheet?  Zooming in on the latest balance sheet data, we can see that Fonterra Co-operative Group had liabilities of NZ$6.53b due within 12 months and liabilities of NZ$3.63b due beyond that.    Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of NZ$239.0m as well as receivables valued at NZ$2.12b due within 12 months.   So it has liabilities totalling NZ$7.79b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.   The deficiency here weighs heavily on the NZ$3.91b company itself, as if a child were struggling under the weight of an enormous back-pack full of books, his sports gear, and a trumpet.   So we'd watch its balance sheet closely, without a doubt.  After all, Fonterra Co-operative Group would likely require a major re-capitalisation if it had to pay its creditors today.    We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short).  Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.   We'd say that Fonterra Co-operative Group's moderate net debt to EBITDA ratio ( being 1.8), indicates prudence when it comes to debt.  And its commanding EBIT of 10.1 times its interest expense, implies the debt load is as light as a peacock feather.        It is well worth noting that Fonterra Co-operative Group's EBIT shot up like bamboo after rain, gaining 33% in the last twelve months. That'll make it easier to manage its debt.      When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start.  But it is Fonterra Co-operative Group's earnings that will influence how the balance sheet holds up in the future.  So when considering debt, it's definitely worth looking at the earnings trend. Click here for an interactive snapshot.  Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits.   So the logical step is to look at the proportion of that EBIT that is matched by actual free cash flow.    Over the most recent three years, Fonterra Co-operative Group recorded free cash flow worth 68% of its EBIT, which is around normal, given free cash flow excludes interest and tax.  This cold hard cash means it can reduce its debt when it wants to.    Our View Fonterra Co-operative Group's level of total liabilities was a real negative on this analysis, although the other factors we considered were considerably better.   In particular, we are dazzled with its EBIT growth rate.       Looking at all this data makes us feel a little cautious about Fonterra Co-operative Group's debt levels.  While debt does have its upside in higher potential returns, we think shareholders should definitely consider how debt levels might make the stock more risky.    There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet.  However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it.   For example - Fonterra Co-operative Group has   2 warning signs   we think you should be aware of.     At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free. Valuation is complex, but we're helping make it simple.Find out whether Fonterra Co-operative Group is potentially over or undervalued by checking out our comprehensive analysis, which includes fair value estimates, risks and warnings, dividends, insider transactions and financial health.View the Free AnalysisHave feedback on this article? Concerned about the content? Get in touch with us directly. Alternatively, email editorial-team (at) simplywallst.com.This article by Simply Wall St is general in nature. We provide commentary based on historical data and analyst forecasts only using an unbiased methodology and our articles are not intended to be financial advice. It does not constitute a recommendation to buy or sell any stock, and does not take account of your objectives, or your financial situation. We aim to bring you long-term focused analysis driven by fundamental data. 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