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It's all a pipe dream. There won't be a 25k car and Robotaxis from Tesla won't be on the road fully autonomously for years. They will do the Waymo approach, with a human supervisor and in a geofenced area (pending regulatory approval).

It can't be that only Stellantis is hurt in the US, Tesla sales will be hurt as well with all the negativity around Musk political play and stronger competition (though still not many Chinese EV's which would destroy the US car makers).

Tesla Stock Is Rising. Here's What's Moving Shares

Tesla stock rose early Monday, despite another profit warning from another auto maker which hammered shares of Tesla's traditional peers.Shares of the electric-vehicle maker were up 0.7% at $262.32 shortly after the market opened for trading, while the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were both about 0.2%.The move comes after Stellantis shares dropped 12.5% to $14.06 after cutting its full-year financial guidance. The Chrysler parent now expects operating profit margins of 5.5% to 7%, down from prior guidance for "double digits." Free cash flow is expected to be negative 5 billion euros to 10 billion euros , while prior guidance projected "positive" free cash flow for 2024.Lower wholesale shipments in North America and increased Chinese competition were reasons cited for the cut.Neither issue is a shock. In recent guidance cuts, auto makers Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz cited a weakening Chinese market. What's more, Stellantis had a very difficult first half in the U.S., leavin
Tesla Stock Is Rising. Here's What's Moving Shares
# Tesla Stock Rising Despite Profit Warning from Auto Maker

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  • Dr Rck
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    Huh, TSLA is already on the road with FSD like it or not… adoption is gradual of course, but what is important is its potential of being adopted and contracted to be used soon by the public and companies needing that type of service.. sorry
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    • a4xrbj1: 
      You do understand that FSD is supervised by humans, it’s a level 2 ADAS system like all competitors have as well?


      I was talking about Robotaxis here, as the name implies and Waymo, Cruise, Zoox and Baidu show for years that means driving with no driver even on board.


      Tesla has an intervention every 13 miles, Waymo every 17,311 miles.
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  • Samlunch
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    You are wrong. Tesla FSD works in all areas, urban and rural. No geofencing, no high definition maps, no lidar.
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    • a4xrbj1: 
      It doesn’t work in heavy fog (check YouTube, system shuts off) because it has no LiDAR/Radar. But you do understand that FSD has an intervention every 13 miles vs Waymo 17,311 and Zoox 177,602 miles.


      It’s a level 2 ADAS system, that’s nowhere close to a Robotaxi!
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  • Dr Rck
    ·10-02
    At that kind of speed and coverage TSLA has, prob TSLA needs that kind of intervention for safety before fully implementing FSD, I think consumers trust TSLA being a car manufacturer than what Google has or Waymo so to speak?
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  • DouglasFong
    ·10-02
    Would you trust a search engine provider or a car manufacturer to make your cars? 😅
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