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Investors Buy, Then Bide Time on China

ANALYSIS-Investors buy, then bide time on ChinaNearly 1/3 of Asia fund managers are buyers - BofA surveyFiscal stimulus seen as trigger for further gainsTech sector preferredBy Tom Westbrook, Dhara Ranasinghe and Naomi Rovnick

Investors Buy, Then Bide Time on China

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said Willem Sels, global chief investment officer at HSBC Global Private Banking and Wealth.&#34;We think there will be more details coming through and the market is looking for a number on the size of fiscal stimulus to get excited. 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