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How Warren Buffett's airline stocks have performed since Berkshire Hathaway sold them

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Berkshire loaded up on stock of the four major U.S. carriers in 2016.</p>\n<p>At the 2020 Berkshire annual shareholders meeting, Buffett said he'd spent $7 billion to $8 billionamassing stakesin Delta Air Lines, United Airlines, American Airlines and Southwest Airlines. He didn't comment on the exit prices except to say, \"We did not take out anything like $7 [billion] or $8 billion.\" This contributed to Berkshire's massive $50 billion loss in the first quarter of 2020.</p>\n<p>Since then the stocks have taken off, with American and Southwest up over 80% since their May 25, 2020 bottom, while United and Delta are up about 70%. Measuring gains from the May 25, 2020 trough of all four airlines produces even more spectacular results. United was up over 200% over the period, while American was up 190%.</p>\n<p>The worst losses over the period, which aren't necessarily reflective of Berkshire losses in the positions, were palpable. 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In itsannual shareholder letterfor that fiscal year, Buffett didn't address the new airline stock holdings — except with a passing joke about shareholders flying into the annual meeting.</p>\n<p>\"Keep in mind that airlines have sometimes jacked up prices for the Berkshire weekend — though I must admit I have developed some tolerance, bordering on enthusiasm, for that practice now that Berkshire has made large investments in America’s four major carriers,\"wrote Buffett.</p>\n<p>When Buffett finally cut Berkshire's losses in 2020, Bill Smead, chief investment officer of Smead Capital Management, wrote acritical reviewof the matter but was careful to praise Buffett's tremendous historical track record.</p>\n<p>\"We are big fans of Buffett’s theories about businesses with low capital requirements and the ability to throw off cash to owners. 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