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AI Chatbots Were Told to Trade Crypto. The Returns Were Ugly

Artificial-intelligence chatbots have seemingly taken the world by storm. But can they trade like human pros?Not yet, judging by Alpha Arena, a new competition measuring the investing ability of six...

AI Chatbots Were Told to Trade Crypto. The Returns Were Ugly

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