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Liquidity Is Evaporating Even Before Fed Taper Hits Markets

A measure of U.S. financial liquidity whose declines foreshadowed two of the decade’s worst equity r

Liquidity Is Evaporating Even Before Fed Taper Hits Markets

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JeremyKok
·2021-08-14
keep some cash to buy when the market crash. do due diligence when the market is on the rise. then when the market crash start buying those that you have done your due diligence before the crash.
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  Yes!! Wise[Love you]
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JQJQ
·2021-08-13
cash is king but not a representation of everything in the universe
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·2021-08-13
during crash, yes. now, cash is not earning much interest.
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