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Tesla: The Last Bubble Standing

SummaryAs the market crumbles around it, the enthusiasm for Tesla is unwavering. With a 1% earnings

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With a 1% earnings ","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>As the market crumbles around it, the enthusiasm for Tesla is unwavering. With a 1% earnings yield, Tesla is the last bubble standing.</li><li>Elon Musk’s diverted focus is not good news for AI and autonomous drive. He’s been selling stock hand-over-fist.</li><li>In the next recession, Tesla&#39;s earnings will likely decline, and the bubble will go &#34;pop.&#34; We&#39;ll dig into why we see a lost decade ahead for TSLA.</li></ul>The ThesisTesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) has captured the minds of investors the world over. The company has become more of a gambling machine than an investment; in 2021, TSLA was the most traded stock among retail investors.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1e3d4b7cda76da9b0147473895a518c9\" tg-width=\"1040\" tg-height=\"1088\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Most Traded Stocks (Degiro)So why is Tesla not crumbling entirely in the face of this bear market? Well, autos are still riding an all-time hot wave of sales, and investors aren&#39;t pricing in the cyclicality of earnings. In a deep recession, Tesla&#39;s earnings can and likely will decline, along with all other automakers. At which time, the air will come out of Tesla&#39;s stock.Autos vs. RecessionRecessions get nasty for auto manufacturers. History has shown that it doesn&#39;t matter who you are, when big recessions hit, auto earnings not only decline but usually go negative in this capital-intensive industry. In 2009, auto manufacturers got absolutely crushed, reporting negative net income across the board:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/178b4e4d53d206f47912083db8e6b7ea\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Data by YChartsYou may ask, &#34;What about the recession of 2020?&#34; Well, 2020 was unlike any recession in the past. The government sent out so many stimulus checks, that consumers&#39; bank accounts actually ballooned. Combined with the lowest interest rates in 5000 years, buying a $50,000 car became more affordable than ever.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8dea3cc478a3fb47133524908183cc64\" tg-width=\"786\" tg-height=\"565\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Cash Balances of American Consumers (RSM)Disconnected ManagementAs the bubble booms on, Elon Musk has beensellingTesla shares hand-over-fist, with excuses like this:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3740aa3afe71aa226eca83a1d035e273\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"546\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Elon Musk Tweet (Bloomberg)This is not what we like to see from our CEO. To be fair to Musk, he did tweet this back in 2020, when the stock was at $140 per share:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a940e22f55a558f3d8e8d882e91469a\" tg-width=\"602\" tg-height=\"334\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Elon Musk Tweet (Quora)TSLA currently has a 1% earnings yield on what is likely an industry peak. It appears to us that Elon&#39;s getting out.With the proceeds, Musk is attempting to buy Twitter (TWTR) outright. Keep in mind that Musk is not only focusing his time and attention on this, but to SpaceX, which is arguably a more promising business. The space industry is projected to reach $1 trillion in revenue by 2040.A Fundamental Look At Tesla&#39;s GrowthTesla is going global and getting closer to its customer base, with new factories in Shanghai, China, as well as Berlin, Germany. You would think this move would expand Tesla&#39;s market share. But from 2020 to 2021, Tesla&#39;s global market share actually shrank from17%to just under14%.Competition is coming from everywhere. With a 14% market share, Tesla is more likely to lose share than to gain it. Companies like Honda (HMC) (OTCPK:HNDAF), BMW (OTCPK:BMWYY), Ford (F), GM (GM), Hyundai (OTCPK:HYMTF), Jaguar, Kia (OTCPK:KIMTF), Mazda (OTCPK:MZDAY) (OTCPK:MZDAF), Mercedes (OTCPK:DDAIF) (OTCPK:DMLRY), Mitsubishi, Nissan (OTCPK:NSANY) (OTCPK:NSANF), Stellantis (STLA), Subaru (OTCPK:FUJHY) (OTCPK:FUJHF), Toyota (TM) (OTCPK:TOYOF), Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY) (OTCPK:VLKAF) (OTCPK:VWAPY), and Volvo (OTCPK:VOLAF) (OTCPK:VLVLY) (OTCPK:VOLVF) are all adding EVs to their lineups. Many of these companies have strong and entrenched brands and are partnering with EV titans like BYD (OTCPK:BYDDF). On top of that, they&#39;re producing EVs that are more affordable for the average consumer.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78163ed4a8e14f033b94ab5f7ab5ba04\" tg-width=\"664\" tg-height=\"701\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Global EV Market Share (Statista)Tesla&#39;s margins could also decrease. A cooler economy, increased competition, and used EVs coming online means the price of buying an EV could actually fall over time. Tesla&#39;s benefited from government credits, but these credits could dissipate now that EV companies like Tesla are profitable and highly valued.To understand where Tesla is going, we need to understand where the industry is going. The number of electric vehicles sold globally is projected to grow at 17.5% per annum through to 2030. Tesla&#39;s energy business has grown revenue at21% per annum over the past 3 years.95% of Tesla&#39;s revenue still comes from the automotive arm:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/27d7141d89fbc6299c4d310ef0e3a6d2\" tg-width=\"1268\" tg-height=\"344\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Tesla&#39;s Revenue Breakdown (2021 Annual Report)Given the market share, margins, and industry risks, we estimate Tesla will simply match the growth of global EV sales, growing 17.5% per annum. The energy business should continue to grow and become profitable, which will partially make up for the issues cited above.The ValuationOur 2032 price target for TSLA is $683 per share, indicating a return of 0% per annum, with no dividends.<ul><li>Tesla has earnings of $7.78 per share, giving it a PE of nearly 100. If Tesla&#39;s EPS should grow at 17.5% per annum, we get 2032 earnings of $39 per share. While the typical car company trades at just 10x normalized earnings, Tesla continues to benefit from the transition to EVs, and should have a more prominent footprint in clean energy generation and storage in 2032. We&#39;ve applied a terminal multiple of 17.5x earnings, which is a 75% premium to the average car company. Remember, the auto business is cyclical, competitive, and prone to bankruptcy. It&#39;s difficult to justify a higher multiple unless our risks to the thesis play out.</li></ul>Risks To The ThesisTesla&#39;s future is very up in the air. 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With a 1% earnings yield, Tesla is the last bubble standing.Elon Musk’s diverted focus is not good news for AI and autonomous drive. He’s been selling stock hand-over-fist.In the next recession, Tesla's earnings will likely decline, and the bubble will go \"pop.\" We'll dig into why we see a lost decade ahead for TSLA.The ThesisTesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) has captured the minds of investors the world over. The company has become more of a gambling machine than an investment; in 2021, TSLA was the most traded stock among retail investors.Most Traded Stocks (Degiro)So why is Tesla not crumbling entirely in the face of this bear market? Well, autos are still riding an all-time hot wave of sales, and investors aren't pricing in the cyclicality of earnings. In a deep recession, Tesla's earnings can and likely will decline, along with all other automakers. At which time, the air will come out of Tesla's stock.Autos vs. RecessionRecessions get nasty for auto manufacturers. History has shown that it doesn't matter who you are, when big recessions hit, auto earnings not only decline but usually go negative in this capital-intensive industry. In 2009, auto manufacturers got absolutely crushed, reporting negative net income across the board:Data by YChartsYou may ask, \"What about the recession of 2020?\" Well, 2020 was unlike any recession in the past. The government sent out so many stimulus checks, that consumers' bank accounts actually ballooned. Combined with the lowest interest rates in 5000 years, buying a $50,000 car became more affordable than ever.Cash Balances of American Consumers (RSM)Disconnected ManagementAs the bubble booms on, Elon Musk has beensellingTesla shares hand-over-fist, with excuses like this:Elon Musk Tweet (Bloomberg)This is not what we like to see from our CEO. To be fair to Musk, he did tweet this back in 2020, when the stock was at $140 per share:Elon Musk Tweet (Quora)TSLA currently has a 1% earnings yield on what is likely an industry peak. It appears to us that Elon's getting out.With the proceeds, Musk is attempting to buy Twitter (TWTR) outright. Keep in mind that Musk is not only focusing his time and attention on this, but to SpaceX, which is arguably a more promising business. The space industry is projected to reach $1 trillion in revenue by 2040.A Fundamental Look At Tesla's GrowthTesla is going global and getting closer to its customer base, with new factories in Shanghai, China, as well as Berlin, Germany. You would think this move would expand Tesla's market share. But from 2020 to 2021, Tesla's global market share actually shrank from17%to just under14%.Competition is coming from everywhere. With a 14% market share, Tesla is more likely to lose share than to gain it. Companies like Honda (HMC) (OTCPK:HNDAF), BMW (OTCPK:BMWYY), Ford (F), GM (GM), Hyundai (OTCPK:HYMTF), Jaguar, Kia (OTCPK:KIMTF), Mazda (OTCPK:MZDAY) (OTCPK:MZDAF), Mercedes (OTCPK:DDAIF) (OTCPK:DMLRY), Mitsubishi, Nissan (OTCPK:NSANY) (OTCPK:NSANF), Stellantis (STLA), Subaru (OTCPK:FUJHY) (OTCPK:FUJHF), Toyota (TM) (OTCPK:TOYOF), Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY) (OTCPK:VLKAF) (OTCPK:VWAPY), and Volvo (OTCPK:VOLAF) (OTCPK:VLVLY) (OTCPK:VOLVF) are all adding EVs to their lineups. Many of these companies have strong and entrenched brands and are partnering with EV titans like BYD (OTCPK:BYDDF). On top of that, they're producing EVs that are more affordable for the average consumer.Global EV Market Share (Statista)Tesla's margins could also decrease. A cooler economy, increased competition, and used EVs coming online means the price of buying an EV could actually fall over time. Tesla's benefited from government credits, but these credits could dissipate now that EV companies like Tesla are profitable and highly valued.To understand where Tesla is going, we need to understand where the industry is going. The number of electric vehicles sold globally is projected to grow at 17.5% per annum through to 2030. Tesla's energy business has grown revenue at21% per annum over the past 3 years.95% of Tesla's revenue still comes from the automotive arm:Tesla's Revenue Breakdown (2021 Annual Report)Given the market share, margins, and industry risks, we estimate Tesla will simply match the growth of global EV sales, growing 17.5% per annum. The energy business should continue to grow and become profitable, which will partially make up for the issues cited above.The ValuationOur 2032 price target for TSLA is $683 per share, indicating a return of 0% per annum, with no dividends.Tesla has earnings of $7.78 per share, giving it a PE of nearly 100. If Tesla's EPS should grow at 17.5% per annum, we get 2032 earnings of $39 per share. While the typical car company trades at just 10x normalized earnings, Tesla continues to benefit from the transition to EVs, and should have a more prominent footprint in clean energy generation and storage in 2032. We've applied a terminal multiple of 17.5x earnings, which is a 75% premium to the average car company. Remember, the auto business is cyclical, competitive, and prone to bankruptcy. It's difficult to justify a higher multiple unless our risks to the thesis play out.Risks To The ThesisTesla's future is very up in the air. Elon Musk has all sorts of stories for investors revolving around autonomous drive, robotics, ride-sharing, and artificial intelligence. However, we do not yet have substantial revenues from Musk's many grand ideas. When those revenues do materialize, the businesses are likely to be loss-making, much like TSLA's energy business thus far. 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