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Was Wednesday's Stock Market Surge Premature?

What the Federal Reserve chair said wasn't any big surprise, but Wall Street heard what it wanted to hear.

Was Wednesday's Stock Market Surge Premature?

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LuckyPiggie
·2022-12-01
look at xpeng.. shot to Pluto . [LOL] alth result wasnt good.
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  Whats gotta do with staying up? Hahaha
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- LuckyPiggieReplying toEV8:
  unless i stay up till 5am ... [Speechless]
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- EV8Replying toLuckyPiggie:
  Alamak [Facepalm][Facepalm]
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