Tesla is ditching radar, will rely on cameras for Autopilot in some cars

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Tesla is ditching radar, will rely on cameras for Autopilot in some cars

cnbc2021-05-26

KEY POINTS Tesla announced Tuesday that it is ditching radar in favor of a camera-based system to enable Autopilot features in its Model 3 and Y vehicles in North America. CEO Elon Musk had said ...

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TaiWoeiHaur
·2021-05-28
Yes
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AetherC
·2021-05-27
Elon musk playing games again
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oddox
·2021-05-26
Wow thats cool
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- TSENR3:
  Like n follow back pls
  2021-05-28
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Mythology
·2021-05-26
Cool cool cool cool cool
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imsomeonelse
·2021-05-26
Cool, seeing some plasma light now
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Kentotoro
·2021-05-26
They have been using eyes for some time
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- imsomeonelse:
  Anxious with the outcome
  2021-05-26
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Chuashiyong
·2021-05-26
Cool
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- Chuashiyong:
  [Smile]
  2021-05-26
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- Chuashiyong:
  Buying?
  2021-05-26
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- imsomeonelse:
  Yea
  2021-05-26
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再等等吧
·2021-05-26
[Observation] [Observation]
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大家好我是王剛88888
·2021-05-26
撞了幾次牆。終於學乖了
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ocean_wave
·2021-05-26
Great. Maybe Wide angle pickup[思考]
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Pixiestars
·2021-05-26
Trying to cut costs?
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- Chifield:
  Improve gross margin
  2021-05-27
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JohnTeo
·2021-05-26
Do something different and let the others follow u.
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sugizoi4u
·2021-05-26
More data would be needed to determine whether Autopilot with just cameras will work safely in any condition
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- WCS1981:
  Ya i wonder how It will work in low visibility conditions[Doubt]
  2021-05-26
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- Khairul0802:
  Agreed
  2021-05-26
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Evey77
·2021-05-26
From a consumer perspective, I wouldn’t buy a Tesla. Why would one compromise his/her safety just for Tesla to increase their margins? ?
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- ET77:
  agreed
  2021-05-27
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- Evey77:
  Exactly! Agree!
  2021-05-26
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- tkj:
  true. as it is, with the radar system, they are already facing problems of self driving cars crashing. removing the radar could increase the crash probability
  2021-05-26
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Vivberry
·2021-05-26
Need a more in depth analysis
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MySGX
·2021-05-26
Safer or cheaper?
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MichaelBlade
·2021-05-26
Wow. Is it a good idea?
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alicegcw
·2021-05-26
[Smile]
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- Howhowlee:
  Wait n see! ?
  2021-05-26
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ohty0308
·2021-05-26
This is old news though~
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KeeBoonTong
·2021-05-26
Like and comment
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- MichaelBlade:
  done.
  2021-05-26
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