China’s Emerging Tech Firms Grapple With Losses

The Wall Street Journal2021-06-07

Meituan, Pinduoduo, Kuaishou spend heavily to spur new market segments. The red ink is piling up at China’s emerging technology champions, as these companies spend heavily in a bid to spur new market...

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Alihuat
·2021-06-17
Gd 2 know..
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th0mastan
·2021-06-09
This short term correction is to sustain the long term growth momentum
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bzlim
·2021-06-08
Which china stocks do you guys foresee will dominate the China market?
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中国ChinaATM
·2021-06-08
Tencent, Alibaba and Meituan are all undervalued now. Grab them now
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- 中国ChinaATM:
  Gogogo, ATM to the moon
  2021-06-10
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- 中国ChinaATM:
  Tencent intrinsic value = USD89
  Meituan intrinsic value = USD74
  Alibaba intrinsic value= USD315
  
  Grab them now
  2021-06-09
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Starbucks
·2021-06-07
Oops! Wait for the big dip! [Grin]
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- Nobi:
  Quoting meituan ceo, stay patient for the long term results too! [爱你]
  2021-06-07
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- Starbucks:
  [LOL][LOL]
  2021-06-07
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NPC69
·2021-06-07
Good.
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newbieET
·2021-06-07
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SQWoo
·2021-06-07
?
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Monnie13
·2021-06-07
What Do You think ? Like AND comment pls
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Wins888
·2021-06-07
at least tiger brokers has turned profitable
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SRT
·2021-06-07
Another day another flat trading
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Grab them now","listText":"Tencent, Alibaba and Meituan are all undervalued now. Grab them now","text":"Tencent, Alibaba and Meituan are all undervalued now. 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