Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In

Seeking Alpha2022-08-22

SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...

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May168
·2022-08-23
Just close eyes and cut loss. I did!
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BangkokBali
·2022-08-22
Brave!
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FT585
·2022-08-22
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Maky
·2022-08-22
Ok, his viewpoint only. doubt it will go to $2.50 though
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Maky
·2022-08-22
read just for another viewpoint. Cannot believe it will ever touch $2.50 though
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ahswee
·2022-08-22
Zhun bo? Price target $2.50 but put strike price $6.
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kianfoo
·2022-08-22
Ok
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blessed_1
·2022-08-22
Gg
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ValuInvestor
·2022-08-22
Too much hype
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ckexcellent
·2022-08-22
Am waiting for 2.50
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MSTAN
·2022-08-22
👌👌
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liverpool777
·2022-08-22
Good analysis
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Chibichibi
·2022-08-22
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D.Billions
·2022-08-22
Karp paid Seeking Alpha for non-stop marketing and reverse psychology. By this way newbie investors will think Seeking Alpha not just a Karp's pumping machice but also criticizing the stock. In reality this is just a reverse psychology to trick new and naive investors.
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soosoo
·2022-08-22
Ok
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XiaTian
·2022-08-22
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VNYH
·2022-08-22
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Master Huang
·2022-08-22
Funny
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Nebhol
·2022-08-22
Ok
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hydros
·2022-08-22
Its not just PLTR but these US companies tend to milk the company for all its worth via hefty stock based compensation. It's at the expense of the shareholders and what have these fat cats contributed to the bottom line to deserve such compensation?
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(NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996688942,"gmtCreate":1661160999488,"gmtModify":1676536464403,"author":{"id":"4097763827236320","authorId":"4097763827236320","name":"BangkokBali","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f17ddb9914fec9178579e05f9c29afb2","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4097763827236320","authorIdStr":"4097763827236320"},"htmlText":"Brave!&nbsp;","listText":"Brave!&nbsp;","text":"Brave!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996688942","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996683901,"gmtCreate":1661160428408,"gmtModify":1676536464348,"author":{"id":"3562726241279787","authorId":"3562726241279787","name":"FT585","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/734b50619b12425294cb4715814bdedb","vip":1,"crmLevel":6,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3562726241279787","authorIdStr":"3562726241279787"},"htmlText":"Like&nbsp;","listText":"Like&nbsp;","text":"Like","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996683901","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996841216,"gmtCreate":1661149834639,"gmtModify":1676536462651,"author":{"id":"4097760012234950","authorId":"4097760012234950","name":"Maky","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/623d907d0a6cc27a289b9744092f6eef","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4097760012234950","authorIdStr":"4097760012234950"},"htmlText":"Ok, his viewpoint only.&nbsp;doubt it will go to $2.50 though","listText":"Ok, his viewpoint only.&nbsp;doubt it will go to $2.50 though","text":"Ok, his viewpoint only. doubt it will go to $2.50 though","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996841216","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996841314,"gmtCreate":1661149750640,"gmtModify":1676536462642,"author":{"id":"4097760012234950","authorId":"4097760012234950","name":"Maky","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/623d907d0a6cc27a289b9744092f6eef","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4097760012234950","authorIdStr":"4097760012234950"},"htmlText":"read just for another viewpoint. &nbsp;Cannot&nbsp;believe it will ever touch $2.50 though","listText":"read just for another viewpoint. &nbsp;Cannot&nbsp;believe it will ever touch $2.50 though","text":"read just for another viewpoint. Cannot believe it will ever touch $2.50 though","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996841314","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996843400,"gmtCreate":1661149726002,"gmtModify":1676536462627,"author":{"id":"3569301571685332","authorId":"3569301571685332","name":"ahswee","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9df9d1562760402e99c23de8c7a82773","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b0a2963eb37c60c5d6d4a8dbcd266952","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3569301571685332","authorIdStr":"3569301571685332"},"htmlText":"Zhun bo? Price target $2.50 but put strike price $6.&nbsp;","listText":"Zhun bo? Price target $2.50 but put strike price $6.&nbsp;","text":"Zhun bo? Price target $2.50 but put strike price $6.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996843400","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. 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(NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996840475,"gmtCreate":1661149363899,"gmtModify":1676536462580,"author":{"id":"3572083328749084","authorId":"3572083328749084","name":"kianfoo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c207649301dbd21ba98213f2705672a3","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3572083328749084","authorIdStr":"3572083328749084"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996840475","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996840003,"gmtCreate":1661149265905,"gmtModify":1676536462559,"author":{"id":"4112410321254552","authorId":"4112410321254552","name":"blessed_1","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/71622697830d9517eb67a61917d8a95f","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b073a07f77dbe6b3bec6b12311fde6bd","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4112410321254552","authorIdStr":"4112410321254552"},"htmlText":"Gg","listText":"Gg","text":"Gg","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996840003","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996857936,"gmtCreate":1661149042928,"gmtModify":1676536462534,"author":{"id":"4087361572396550","authorId":"4087361572396550","name":"ValuInvestor","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5a962911d3cd0763a9f0cb01392cacd9","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4087361572396550","authorIdStr":"4087361572396550"},"htmlText":"Too much hype&nbsp;","listText":"Too much hype&nbsp;","text":"Too much hype","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996857936","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. 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(NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996855902,"gmtCreate":1661148433108,"gmtModify":1676536462480,"author":{"id":"3585820834491605","authorId":"3585820834491605","name":"ckexcellent","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/3f866a7facd47c062e822c9949cc6a38","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3585820834491605","authorIdStr":"3585820834491605"},"htmlText":"Am waiting for 2.50","listText":"Am waiting for 2.50","text":"Am waiting for 2.50","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996855902","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996851058,"gmtCreate":1661147905776,"gmtModify":1676536462355,"author":{"id":"4089461104605170","authorId":"4089461104605170","name":"MSTAN","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/1d0ff53a35c30afecbd1fa0c5ed59f07","vip":1,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4089461104605170","authorIdStr":"4089461104605170"},"htmlText":"👌👌","listText":"👌👌","text":"👌👌","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996851058","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996827727,"gmtCreate":1661147525872,"gmtModify":1676536462267,"author":{"id":"4107327092916560","authorId":"4107327092916560","name":"liverpool777","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/ccd27a97994c1a784b2b11e33f646a2a","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4107327092916560","authorIdStr":"4107327092916560"},"htmlText":"Good analysis&nbsp;","listText":"Good analysis&nbsp;","text":"Good analysis","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996827727","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. 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(NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996827271,"gmtCreate":1661147469496,"gmtModify":1676536462259,"author":{"id":"3582020670131796","authorId":"3582020670131796","name":"Chibichibi","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/671a41a5ed2aa68a8f1cfd3e8d82402a","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3582020670131796","authorIdStr":"3582020670131796"},"htmlText":"Like","listText":"Like","text":"Like","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996827271","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996824825,"gmtCreate":1661147306570,"gmtModify":1676536462228,"author":{"id":"4091284840222960","authorId":"4091284840222960","name":"D.Billions","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/29001ed73c58d3156d6a33fa7525ca72","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4091284840222960","authorIdStr":"4091284840222960"},"htmlText":"Karp paid Seeking Alpha for non-stop&nbsp;marketing and reverse psychology. By this way newbie investors will think Seeking Alpha not just a Karp's pumping machice but also criticizing the stock. 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In reality this is just a reverse psychology to trick new and naive investors.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996824825","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996825408,"gmtCreate":1661147210507,"gmtModify":1676536462212,"author":{"id":"4089777453696550","authorId":"4089777453696550","name":"soosoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a7a8e4a0c1e8d4b7bf1e9db91cfaffc8","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4089777453696550","authorIdStr":"4089777453696550"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996825408","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. 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(NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996825205,"gmtCreate":1661147194609,"gmtModify":1676536462212,"author":{"id":"3575368380492738","authorId":"3575368380492738","name":"XiaTian","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/71777f1a5ae276e73064272b5ae7df92","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3575368380492738","authorIdStr":"3575368380492738"},"htmlText":"Ok&nbsp;","listText":"Ok&nbsp;","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996825205","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996825605,"gmtCreate":1661147189809,"gmtModify":1676536462204,"author":{"id":"3587098041366260","authorId":"3587098041366260","name":"VNYH","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/afb594e8301149ac7ad52d0c8a5b9b05","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3587098041366260","authorIdStr":"3587098041366260"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996825605","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996822664,"gmtCreate":1661147082260,"gmtModify":1676536462179,"author":{"id":"4097069413028710","authorId":"4097069413028710","name":"Master Huang","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/22b0bba9f868080a2660e6374d3cca86","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f84d87792f02cf78e80ee34979fd31e5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4097069413028710","authorIdStr":"4097069413028710"},"htmlText":"Funny","listText":"Funny","text":"Funny","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996822664","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. 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(NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996828197,"gmtCreate":1661146762922,"gmtModify":1676536462124,"author":{"id":"3567411499210880","authorId":"3567411499210880","name":"Nebhol","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b0bfc2a45b91e41a283614268857b3a5","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3567411499210880","authorIdStr":"3567411499210880"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996828197","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9996821595,"gmtCreate":1661146671919,"gmtModify":1676536462108,"author":{"id":"3570969181408297","authorId":"3570969181408297","name":"hydros","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/999af31c7ffcd1eea8c03e9a51f02a24","vip":1,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3570969181408297","authorIdStr":"3570969181408297"},"htmlText":"Its not just PLTR but these US companies tend to milk the company for all its worth via hefty stock based compensation. It's at the expense of the shareholders and what have these&nbsp;fat cats contributed to the bottom line to&nbsp;deserve such compensation?&nbsp;","listText":"Its not just PLTR but these US companies tend to milk the company for all its worth via hefty stock based compensation. It's at the expense of the shareholders and what have these&nbsp;fat cats contributed to the bottom line to&nbsp;deserve such compensation?&nbsp;","text":"Its not just PLTR but these US companies tend to milk the company for all its worth via hefty stock based compensation. It's at the expense of the shareholders and what have these fat cats contributed to the bottom line to deserve such compensation?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9996821595","repostId":1184419615,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1184419615","pubTimestamp":1661140699,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1184419615?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-22 11:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1184419615","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.I","content":"<html><head></head><body>Summary<ul><li>Palantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.</li><li>Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.</li><li>In my view, the valuation is still too high.</li></ul>Due to concerns about the company&#39;s stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir&#39;snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir&#39;s net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir&#39;s lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir&#39;s reliance on government contracts.Palantir&#39;s sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company&#39;s overvalued software division. Palantir&#39;s sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a3024cf5552db6b2d0f8ac06c875f38b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir&#39;s sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir&#39;s costs in the second quarter.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1680aa1718bd19424008138885b0a5dd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir&#39;s executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company&#39;s total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir&#39;s management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir&#39;s only issue. Palantir&#39;s accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company&#39;s lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir&#39;s large loss base and high SBC, I don&#39;t believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5734d09cb75fbf96e81a32fa59d584cc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"252\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir&#39;s new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir&#39;s projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/49dee2394d5e2e57f4a10043de8814bc\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"802\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir&#39;s stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir&#39;s guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir&#39;s poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Reality Is Sinking In</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Reality Is Sinking In\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-08-22 11:58 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in>Seeking Alpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4535969-palantir-reality-is-sinking-in","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1184419615","content_text":"SummaryPalantir scrapped its 30% sales growth forecast for 2022.Losses are widening, thanks to SBC.In my view, the valuation is still too high.Due to concerns about the company's stock-based compensation (SBC) and risks to its sales growth, I initiated a short position in Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR)in May via put options.Now that the software company has abandoned its 30% sales growth target indefinitely due to a slowdown in its core business, the stock is at risk of falling to my fair value target of $2.50. Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.Fundamentally Unsound BusinessPalantir'snet losses were $101.4 million in 1Q-22. Palantir's net losses in 2Q-22 were $179.3 million, a 77% increase QoQ.For quite some time, I have been concerned about Palantir's lack of underlying profitability and have stated here that Palantir is running a fundamentally unprofitable software business that appealed to investors primarily because of Palantir's reliance on government contracts.Palantir's sales growth slowed further in the second quarter, posing a new problem for the company's overvalued software division. Palantir's sales in 2Q-22 were $473.0 million, up 26% YoY, as the software company gained more commercial customers. Having said that, I see no way for Palantir to generate profitable sales growth.Net Losses(Palantir Technologies)I think Palantir is plagued by two major issues.The first issue is that Palantir invests a lot of money in sales and marketing. Palantir's sales and marketing expenses accounted for 36% of sales dollars in 2Q-22, which is roughly in line with what the company has previously paid for sales growth.Importantly, total operating expenses remained widely inflated at 87% (down from 88% in 1Q-22), making profit impossible for Palantir. The allocation of stock-based compensation remained a significant driver of Palantir's costs in the second quarter.Sales/Marketing And Total Operating Expenses(Author Created Table Using Quarterly Earnings Reports From Palantir Technologies)Palantir allocated $145.8 million in stock-based compensation to its cost categories, with 92% going to operating expenses and 8% going to revenue costs.Palantir's executive compensation has added $295.1 million to various expense categories year to date, which I consider generous given the company's total loss of $280.7 million. In other words, if not for stock-based compensation, Palantir would have made a net profit of $14.4 million this year.The majority of executive compensation consists of long-term equity incentives (options, restricted stock units), so Palantir's management should be well compensated.However, SBC compensation is not Palantir's only issue. Palantir's accumulated deficit as of June 30, 2022 was $5.77 billion, representing the company's lifetime losses. With such high historical losses, Palantir must still demonstrate that it has a viable business model that promises the benefits of scalability. Given Palantir's large loss base and high SBC, I don't believe the company would be an appealing acquisition target.Stock-Based Compensation(Palantir Technologies)Palantir Scraps Guidance Remains Hopelessly OvervaluedPalantir's new revenue forecast for 2022 is $1.9 billion, representing 23% YoY growth, and the software company is no longer predicting 30% annual sales growth. This is a significant departure from previous quarters, when investors emphasized Palantir's projected annual sales growth of 30%.In my opinion, the software company has an indefensible sales multiple of 10x based on $1.9 billion in sales. I think the sales multiple is unjustifiable because Palantir has flawed fundamentals (inflated operating expenses), overpaid executives, and faces a slowing core consulting business.PLTR PS Ratiodata byYChartsChange To My Short PositionI made a minor change to my Palantir short position by extending the expiration date of my puts from January 2023 to March 2023.The longer duration of the put options reduces my capital risks while also giving Palantir's stock price more time to fall towards my $2.50 stock price target. My put options continue to have a strike price of $6.Why Palantir Stock Could IncreasePalantir's guidance may have some upside in the sense that government sales may pick up towards the end of the year, and Palantir could, in theory, deliver better-than-expected sales growth if new contracts are signed with various government agencies.With that said, I believe it is safe to say that the 30% growth target is effectively off the table for the time being, and investors must make do with potentially much lower growth rates in the future.Because Palantir continues to incur higher net losses, I am not optimistic that the company will be profitable this year or next.My ConclusionPalantir's poor 2Q-22 business update makes it much more likely that PLTR will fall towards my $2.50 stock price target that I set for the software company in my last article on Palantir in May 2022. Palantir is not everything that investors thought it was, and reality is slowly sinking in.Scrapping the much-touted 30% growth target strongly suggests that the odds are stacked against Palantir at this point, and in my view, Palantir should be avoided because it is still grossly overvalued.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"}],"hasMoreComments":true,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":380,"commentSize":56,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":2,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false}}