Tesla Bull Case "More Intact" Than Ever Claims Gerber, Earnings Will Plummet Argues Gordon Johnson

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In a Bull vs. Bear debate on Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) Thursday afternoon, hosted by Investing.com and Street Insider.com, GLJ Research analyst Gordon Johnson and Co-Founder, President, and CEO of Gerber ...

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sydboy007
·2023-01-20
2023 is the year of the 4680. This will be the limiting factor for Tesla to increase vehicle production. If they can't ramp up much faster than they have, their growth won't be that great this year.
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·2023-01-20
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·2023-01-20
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·2023-01-20
Very interesting views. But I subscribed more towards the views of Gordon Johnson. The reason being simply the prices cuts may not deliver the growth that Tesla needs. Too many other things to worry about, most important being with recession and job cuts, big ticket spending will be the first to go.
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But I subscribed more towards the views of Gordon Johnson. The reason being simply the prices cuts may not deliver the growth that Tesla needs. Too many other things to worry about, most important being with recession and job cuts, big ticket spending will be the first to go.","listText":"Very interesting views. But I subscribed more towards the views of Gordon Johnson. The reason being simply the prices cuts may not deliver the growth that Tesla needs. Too many other things to worry about, most important being with recession and job cuts, big ticket spending will be the first to go.","text":"Very interesting views. But I subscribed more towards the views of Gordon Johnson. The reason being simply the prices cuts may not deliver the growth that Tesla needs. Too many other things to worry about, most important being with recession and job cuts, big ticket spending will be the first to go.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9956787340","repostId":2304162746,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"}],"hasMoreComments":true,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":50,"commentSize":6,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false}}