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- ShianShian
  ·2023-03-03
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  Tesla Investor Day Falls Flat
  SummaryTesla announces new gigafactory will be located in Mexico.No $25,000 vehicle was shown off at
  Tesla Investor Day Falls Flat
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-03-03
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  中概股风云往事：疯牛、低谷、反弹
  电影《中国合伙人》中有个经典片段，孟晓骏带着成东青和王阳去他打零工的地方吃西餐，讲述了自己谈合作时被高傲的美国人放了鸽子。当时，孟晓骏深情地对成东青说，“只有我们站在纽交所挥锤的那一刻，他们才会真正看
  中概股风云往事：疯牛、低谷、反弹
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-02-09
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  让ChatGPT造车，能打得过特斯拉吗？
  人工智能第一次让各行各业感到威胁。随着马斯克与汽车行业的推动，人工智能已经成为了一个不可忽视的力量。在这个领域里，ChatGPT 脱颖而出，以其卓越的自然语言处理能力和巨大的知识体系，成为了汽车行业不
  让ChatGPT造车，能打得过特斯拉吗？
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-02-07
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-01-26
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  U.S. Stocks Showed a U-Turn in Morning Trading; Dow Jones Rose Slightly, S&P 500 Jumped Over 0.5% While Nasdaq Soared Over 1%
  U.S. stocks showed a U-turn in morning trading; Dow Jones rose 0.09%, S&P 500 jumped 0.52% while Nas
  U.S. Stocks Showed a U-Turn in Morning Trading; Dow Jones Rose Slightly, S&P 500 Jumped Over 0.5% While Nasdaq Soared Over 1%
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-01-17
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-01-13
  $胜科海事(S51.SI)$ [微笑] [微笑]
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-01-13
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  Elon Musk Fan With 2,900% Gain Sees $1.5 Million Wiped Away
  Tesla’s brutal performance in the stock market has hammered the fortunes of retail investors who sta
  Elon Musk Fan With 2,900% Gain Sees $1.5 Million Wiped Away
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- ShianShian
  ·2023-01-10
  $老虎证券(TIGR)$ 🐯🐯
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  ·2022-12-31
  $老虎证券(TIGR)$
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Since the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4583634-tesla-investor-day-falls-flat\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4583634-tesla-investor-day-falls-flat","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1152493387","content_text":"SummaryTesla announces new gigafactory will be located in Mexico.No $25,000 vehicle was shown off at this event.On Wednesday, Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) held its highly anticipated Investor Day. Since the event was announced a few months ago, everyone has been waiting to hear about the company's next generation vehicle platform, as well as other items that will be key for shareholders going forward. Unfortunately, the event turned out to be more hype than anything else, and thus for TSLA stock, it was another \"buy the rumor, sell the news\" event.Perhaps the biggest piece of news was that Tesla is indeed going to build another gigafactory, this time in Mexico. There have been rumors of this location for several weeks now, as local politicians have talked about it coming and various meetings with Tesla CEO Elon Musk have been reported. There was no timeline provided for this project, but this factory will be used for the next generation vehicle platform. It will be built just outside Monterrey in Nuevo León, with Tesla's official rendering seen below.Tesla Gigafactory Mexico(Investor Day Presentation)As was expected, Tesla's future plan is about the transitioning the world to sustainable energy. This came with a large math lesson, which can be seen here if you need to know the exact details. However, the keys involve powering the grid with renewable energy sources, increasing the number of electric vehicles in use, and reducing the extraction of minerals. On the EV side, Tesla believes its next generation vehicle can be produced for 50% less, which then will allow it to become more affordable. Part of the reduction in cost is making the production process much simpler. That reduces the time it will take to build the vehicle, which then can allow for higher production over time.Investors and consumers had high hopes that Tesla would unveil its $25,000 vehicle at this week's event. This is a vehicle that Musk has teased for several years now, but it was not shown off here. Management said that this next generation platform will get a proper reveal in the future, but again, there was no timeline provided for when that will be. This more affordable vehicle is expected to be a key part of Tesla's battle in China against many local brands, so for now the company will be limited to the Model 3 and Y there.In an article I had published recently, I discussed how previous statements around full self-driving (\"FSD\") capabilities and robo-taxis could lead to significant liabilities for Tesla down the road. There were hopes that more concrete information would be delivered Wednesday about the robo-taxi platform and service, but we didn't get a lot of details outside of how FSD and Autopilot have improved over the years. There also wasn't a major discussion about FSD Hardware version 4 or whether or not it is in cars yet, so perhaps an official announcement about that will come in the coming weeks or months.Tesla did use the event to show off its latest Cybertruck prototype and focused on some of its key features. Management reiterated that production will start this year, which will be about three years late. However, there was some disappointment that no official timeline was given, and Tesla didn't update on the price of the vehicle. Mass production won't occur until 2024 at the earliest, so investors shouldn't be banking on a major contribution to overall results in the next couple of quarters.One of the biggest disappointments for shareholders in the near term was the financial discussion. Tesla CFO Zach Kirkhorn discussed how the company's working capital needs to bounce around throughout the quarter, and what the cost of this sustainable energy future will cost. As a result, there was no official announcement of a share repurchase plan that would at least offset some of the dilution investors are facing over time. This has been a key part of the bull case in recent months, with some major Tesla fans and investors pushing the company to put its large cash pile to use. For now, however, the plan is to build the business, and then return capital afterwards.I have listened to many of Tesla's presentations and quarterly earnings calls, and this one was perhaps the most painful. The main presentation featured at least 10 key parts and was over two and a half hours long, and I counted at least 17 different executives that spoke. There was a lot of discussion about things that have already happened in Tesla, much of which I don't think needed to be regurgitated. For example, we didn't need to hear for a few minutes how a Tesla produces less emissions than a Toyota Corolla. The average investor doesn't need to know every single detail about how Tesla reacted to some event from several years ago or every last technical specification about certain vehicle components.I mentioned that this event was another example of buy the rumor, sell the news. Tesla shares had more than doubled from their early 2023 lows, partially on the hopes for this week's event. Unfortunately, the lack of critical details on many fronts left investors with a sour taste. As the chart below shows, selling in the after-hours session started almost immediately once the event started, ended with a loss of 5.66% or nearly $11.50 a share.Tesla March 1st Trading (CNBC)In the end, Tesla's Investor Day was more fluff than anything else. The company is certainly making progress on some of its goals, but investors wanted to hear more specific details about upcoming products, a potential buyback, etc. The presentation was just too long and wordy for the average investor, which may have fueled some of the selling in the after-hours session. 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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9872ed038b2d2d5127071ad38c7ced0\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"205\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>在中概股低迷时刻，有投资者坚定看好，认为暂时的低谷掩不住长期向好的趋势。从去年11月份开始，中概股出现了一轮显著反弹，坚守者迎来收获期。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/94bec82fdd23c0c0ed96775af7d3816f\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"153\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>中概股是国内新经济及互联网领域的集合场，是中国资产在全球金融市场的一张名牌，诞生了一批龙头企业。展望后市，基本面稳健的中概股依然属于优质资产，AI、半导体、新能源领域的公司更有发展前景和竞争力。</p><p>随着后疫情时代，中国经济引领全球，中概股的基本面持续向好，估值有望获得进一步的修复。不少市场分析人士表示，头部互联网公司作为中国核心资产正在迎来新的春天。华尔街的投行们也纷纷发出“投资者应该转向中国”的倡议。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1589197249107","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>中概股风云往事：疯牛、低谷、反弹</title>\n<style 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tg-height=\"337\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>不过，如果你想让ChatGPT直接帮忙设计一辆汽车，得到的答案是“很抱歉，作为一种语言模型，我并不能直接帮您设计一款汽车”，很Siri的回复，虽然无法设计，ChatGPT还是会提供一些建议，比如“在设计汽车时，您需要考虑年轻人的需求和喜好，并结合市场需求进行分析。”</p><p>在设计阶段，ChatGPT拥有的大数据分析能力，能在最快时间分析大量的汽车数据，帮助行业了解消费者的需求和行为，从而帮助汽车公司更好地设计和开发一款汽车。</p><p>而在生产阶段，如果问ChatGPT“如何改变汽车生产模式”，可以得到这样的结论：</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ceeddfef576e815178d2e8cc3781e73a\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"247\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>简单来说，就是通过对数据的分析和处理，为汽车生产企业提供更准确的生产计划和决策，从而提高生产效率。此外，ChatGPT还可以帮助汽车生产企业实现更加智能化的生产管理，例如通过实时监测生产线上的生产数据，及时发现生产过程中的问题并采取措施，从而降低生产成本和提高生产效率。</p><p>如果继续追问如何提高生产效率，得到的回答是通过自动化生产流程、数据分析、预测需求等方面改善生产效率。至于更加具体的操作，就需要车企提供相关资料给ChatGPT分析了。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aeadc388781ff98c6a1d2b6193113126\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"258\" 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">亚马逊</a>却对其充满了警惕，甚至警告员工不要与ChatGPT分享机密信息。微软高级工程师也表示“请不要将敏感数据发送给OpenAI终端，因为他们可能会将其用于训练未来的模型。”</p><p>原因就是我们老生常谈的话题：数据隐私。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/279335e411eb1f82ec7f95ae1ccdf7a0\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"210\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>以ChatGPT的数据体量，人类在ChatGPT面前没有秘密可言，任何人类留存在网络的信息，ChatGPT应该都搜索得到，包括我们的隐私。</p><p>从ChatGPT的表现来看，小到人类个人都可能成为其受害者，个人或企业肖像、名誉等人格和财产权益可能受到损害，大到ChatGPT会给社会秩序、国家政治稳定和安全造成巨大威胁。</p><p>所幸的是，ChatGPT现在还属于人类管控，而且应该是被冻结了找出隐私的功能，不然不知道有多少90后的非主流黑历史要被翻出来。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1ed8ae45cc2cef79bf7c1b122cc6426e\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"467\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>因此，不管是汽车行业还是其他行业，在使用ChatGPT上，并不是只管用就行，还存在着技术上的挑战。除了数据安全外，还需要大量的专业知识和高质量的训练数据，以及专业的技术支持，以解决技术上的问题和难题。</p><p>当然，机遇也有，在智能汽车上，语音交互、自动驾驶、高精地图等问题，都可以通过ChatGPT辅助协作，就看谁能先接入ChatGPT的API接口。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aae41f505987f084133d5492d55ade61\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"467\" 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也可以为汽车配备智能导航系统，实时分析道路状况，提供最快和最安全的出行方案。可以说ChatGPT+高精地图，才成为了自动驾驶的完整体。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa4c4ab497ea7cbdcd5aac931c466f39\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"463\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>这样的颠覆不仅限于汽车行业，同时适用于当今社会的各行各业，比如美国迈阿密的一名房地产中介 Frank Trelles 在接受媒体采访时表示，他试用 ChatGPT 写的介绍贴一发出去就收到了顾客的回应，并且很快就达成了交易，因此如果未来 OpenAI 要对 ChatGPT 进行收费，他也乐意付费使用。</p><p>当AI 成为了一种新型工具。对应到历史的话，ChatGPT 于 AI 的使用意义大概相当于第一台计算机的诞生、富兰克林用风筝捕获电、原始人第一次使用火。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e283a9983ef52d85e369f6affc305b83\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"278\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>尽管AIGC潜力巨大，但在技术和商业方面、道德伦理和法规层面，仍面临着客观的问题和挑战。</p><p>比如在技术上，ChatGPT仍然还不够聪明。当你问一些具有时效性的问题时，就会出现“我的知识截止时间是2021年”的回复，偶尔还会产生不正确的信息，有时会编造文献，也会给出错误虚假的答案。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed19375ee8935e8481fb7f77c95ada02\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"254\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>在教育界及学术界，反对声音也不断出现。一些人认为它可以成为一个很好的教学辅助工具，另一些人则担心学生会利用该程序来剽窃他们的工作。</p><p>1月5日，纽约市教育部门表示，纽约公立学校的所有设备和网络上将禁止使用ChatGPT。纽约市教育部门发言人詹娜·莱尔指出，这一决定是基于“该工具可能会对学生学习产生负面影响，以及对其内容的安全性和准确性的担忧”。</p><p>1月底，权威学术出版机构Nature，也针对ChatGPT做出规定。Nature规定，ChatGPT等大模型不能被列为作者。如在论文创作中用过相关工具，作者应在“方法”或“致谢”或适当的部分明确说明。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b368680cff9edab8f7004f051c75b1d6\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"257\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>与此同时，反ChatGPT的产品也已出现。美国斯塔福大学研究人员推出了DetectGPT，用于检测出AI生成文本。另一个反ChatGPT的产品GPTZero在1月底进行了升级，一天之内便有40万的访问量和220万的服务请求。这款产品能在几秒内摸清文字是人类还是AI写的。</p><p>当然，抛开这些争议，当下人们更加关注的一个话题是：<b>人工智能会不会取代人类？</b></p><p>事实上，ChatGPT的爆火最初源于它在一位工程师的诱导下，竟写出了毁灭人类的计划书。步骤详细到入侵各国计算机系统、控制武器、破坏通讯、交通系统等，甚至还给出了相应的Python代码。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbfbf5a4b4a55a4477a0a77b6702d6c5\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53e36307cb7bdab10177d8aee89ecb97\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"460\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>虽然在此后的一次更新上，ChatGPT取消了一些反人类反道德的回答，但当我们问到“未来哪些工作会被ChatGPT替代”时，得到了肯定的回复。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b504a596db7386aab2f0cf1c2d4a296\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"178\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>在一些繁琐的、重复的、高度依赖模式的工作中，比如数据录入、文档处理、客服等岗位，是可能被ChatGPT替代的，这方面好坏各占一半，好的方面是人类可以参与更多具有创造性的工作，而不必把时间用在这些枯燥的工作上；坏的方面是，这种重复性的工作可能就是一个人赖以生存的根本，ChatGPT正在剥夺这部分人的利益。</p><p>至于ChatGPT是噱头还是工具，至少从目前的来看，在汽车行业，ChatGPT确实具有重大的影响力，能解决一些实际问题，可以为汽车行业做出一些改变。</p><p>最后，我们通过ChatGPT，给这篇文章写了个结尾。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6573b718c695f7ce791b461d9c30fba\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"278\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><i>总的来说，ChatGPT对汽车行业具有重要的影响力。它通过改善汽车的语音识别、自动驾驶技术和导航系统等，为消费者提供更加高效和便捷的驾驶体验。在汽车行业不断发展的过程中，ChatGPT将成为一把利器，推动行业技术的提升和创新。我们相信，在未来，ChatGPT将继续为汽车行业带来巨大的价值，并为消费者带来更加美好的驾驶体验。</i></p></body></html>","source":"lsy1629432906522","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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AI的智能聊天机器人ChatGPT之手，只需要在聊天框中输入“帮我写一个跟ChatGPT相关的文章开头，关联到马斯克与汽车行业”，ChatGPT就能自动帮你写好。最近一段时间，AI聊天机器人ChatGPT火爆全球，上线不到一周日活用户破百万，2个月破亿……一时间成为现象级消费类AI应用。有人用ChatGPT通过了谷歌L3工程师入职测试，年薪18.3万美元；有学生用ChatGPT拿下全班最高分；ChatGPT之所以火爆，原因就是智能化程度之高，令人细思极恐，就连马斯克也在去年12月就曾公开表示称：ChatGPT好得吓人，我们离强大到危险的人工智能不远了。具体有多吓人？我们先用几个案例来说明。除了帮忙写文章开头之外，ChatGPT还能分析出BBA为什么电动化落后，且列出了几个改善方法。还能直接对比智能汽车与传统汽车的区别，并整理成表格。甚至能分析特斯拉与比亚迪的竞争并随手写成一篇千字左右的文章。事实上，ChatGPT是一个生成式AI，即内容生成器，它并非凭空生成或制造产品，而是通过人类向它提供的材料、信息、文献、文体等进行深度学习，模拟人类的反应做出回答和回应。那么，在汇集了全球无数的信息之后，ChatGPT能给智能汽车行业带来哪些影响和改变呢？ChatGPT能给汽车行业的发展带来哪些影响与改变？不如我们先听听它自己是怎么说的。ChatGPT 作为人工智能的一种实现，在智能汽车行业有着广泛的应用。它可以用于语音识别、图像识别、自然语言处理等方面，帮助汽车厂商提高汽车的智能化水平，使得汽车具有更高的安全性和智能化程度。ChatGPT自己认为在“智能化水平”方面能给汽车行业带来帮助，显然是“谦虚”了，从目前ChatGPT展示的效果来看，至少能给汽车行业带来三种颠覆性的变化，分别作用在设计阶段，生产阶段和销售阶段，我们一个个来说。假如我现在要研发一款年轻化的汽车，向ChatGPT求助，请它帮忙分析年轻人的购车需求，最终得到这样的回复：智能化、高颜值、价格、便携性等，基本都说到点上了，除此之外，还能帮忙推荐一些关于年轻消费者购车倾向和需求的调研报告，这对于汽车行业从业者来说十分有用，省去了自己查找筛选的时间。不过，如果你想让ChatGPT直接帮忙设计一辆汽车，得到的答案是“很抱歉，作为一种语言模型，我并不能直接帮您设计一款汽车”，很Siri的回复，虽然无法设计，ChatGPT还是会提供一些建议，比如“在设计汽车时，您需要考虑年轻人的需求和喜好，并结合市场需求进行分析。”在设计阶段，ChatGPT拥有的大数据分析能力，能在最快时间分析大量的汽车数据，帮助行业了解消费者的需求和行为，从而帮助汽车公司更好地设计和开发一款汽车。而在生产阶段，如果问ChatGPT“如何改变汽车生产模式”，可以得到这样的结论：简单来说，就是通过对数据的分析和处理，为汽车生产企业提供更准确的生产计划和决策，从而提高生产效率。此外，ChatGPT还可以帮助汽车生产企业实现更加智能化的生产管理，例如通过实时监测生产线上的生产数据，及时发现生产过程中的问题并采取措施，从而降低生产成本和提高生产效率。如果继续追问如何提高生产效率，得到的回答是通过自动化生产流程、数据分析、预测需求等方面改善生产效率。至于更加具体的操作，就需要车企提供相关资料给ChatGPT分析了。在最后的销售阶段，ChatGPT也给出了3个改进项目，第一是智能客服，可以为消费者提供专业的咨询服务，目前已经有一些客服岗位被AI取代；第二是通过大量数据分析，帮助销售人员了解客户的需求和购车行为，从而改进销售策略；第三是可以帮助销售快速回答客户问题，并协助管理客户信息，识别潜在客户。关于销售阶段的应用，微软已经冲在前面了，上周四，微软旗下Dynamics 365产品线发布视频，宣布旗下客户关系管理软件Viva Sales将集成OpenAI的技术，通过人工智能帮助销售人员完成许多繁杂且重复的文字工作。利用ChatGPT人工智能模型，可以为电子邮件里客户的问题生成回复建议。例如，销售人员可以从“提供折扣”、“回复询问”或“自行创建”等选项中进行选择，然后人工智能将创建可使用的内容。下一步将会有怎样的应用，取决于人类的想象力。诚然，虽然ChatGPT推出的时间很短，但它对各行各业的影响却具有颠覆性的，而且商业模式正逐渐得到拓展，未来可以探索的空间非常广阔。当然新事物的诞生总是伴随着挑战与机遇，ChatGPT也同样如此。尽管ChatGPT十分具有颠覆性，但亚马逊却对其充满了警惕，甚至警告员工不要与ChatGPT分享机密信息。微软高级工程师也表示“请不要将敏感数据发送给OpenAI终端，因为他们可能会将其用于训练未来的模型。”原因就是我们老生常谈的话题：数据隐私。以ChatGPT的数据体量，人类在ChatGPT面前没有秘密可言，任何人类留存在网络的信息，ChatGPT应该都搜索得到，包括我们的隐私。从ChatGPT的表现来看，小到人类个人都可能成为其受害者，个人或企业肖像、名誉等人格和财产权益可能受到损害，大到ChatGPT会给社会秩序、国家政治稳定和安全造成巨大威胁。所幸的是，ChatGPT现在还属于人类管控，而且应该是被冻结了找出隐私的功能，不然不知道有多少90后的非主流黑历史要被翻出来。因此，不管是汽车行业还是其他行业，在使用ChatGPT上，并不是只管用就行，还存在着技术上的挑战。除了数据安全外，还需要大量的专业知识和高质量的训练数据，以及专业的技术支持，以解决技术上的问题和难题。当然，机遇也有，在智能汽车上，语音交互、自动驾驶、高精地图等问题，都可以通过ChatGPT辅助协作，就看谁能先接入ChatGPT的API接口。在智能汽车上，我们经常吐槽的一个点，是汽车上的智能语音缺少“情感”，这是一个很抽象的词，如何定义情感？ChatGPT就是个比较好的解决方案。比如在问“汽车行业有哪些奇怪设计”的时候，一般的语音助手都是说“不清楚”，因为“奇怪”是一个很主观的词，而ChatGPT的回答是“并不是所有设计都被认为是标准的，不同的设计风格和特点在某些人看来是奇怪的，但在其他人眼中可能是合适的”。这就是所谓的高情商回复，从中我们甚至能看到ChatGPT的价值观，虽然问题还是没有答案，但这样的回复显然让人更加舒服。更加重要的是，ChatGPT是可进化的，也就是说可以通过训练和使用最先进的自然语言处理技术，来改善智能汽车的语音识别性能。例如，它可以通过语音识别技术，例如语音语法、语音识别和语音合成等，实现语音指令识别和处理。值得一提的是，CHatGPT上车并不难，可以直接接入智能汽车系统，并通过 API 的形式与智能汽车系统进行交互。而在自动驾驶方面，ChatGPT 可以通过数据分析和人工智能技术来实现自动驾驶功能，帮助驾驶员更加方便和安全地驾驶。例如，ChatGPT可以用来分析大量的驾驶日志数据，以找出驾驶员在特定情境下的行为规律，并用这些信息来训练自动驾驶控制系统，从而提高它们在复杂情境下的决策能力。总的来说，ChatGPT的分析能力可以为改善自动驾驶技术的情景判断能力提供有力的支持。同时，ChatGPT 也可以为汽车配备智能导航系统，实时分析道路状况，提供最快和最安全的出行方案。可以说ChatGPT+高精地图，才成为了自动驾驶的完整体。这样的颠覆不仅限于汽车行业，同时适用于当今社会的各行各业，比如美国迈阿密的一名房地产中介 Frank Trelles 在接受媒体采访时表示，他试用 ChatGPT 写的介绍贴一发出去就收到了顾客的回应，并且很快就达成了交易，因此如果未来 OpenAI 要对 ChatGPT 进行收费，他也乐意付费使用。当AI 成为了一种新型工具。对应到历史的话，ChatGPT 于 AI 的使用意义大概相当于第一台计算机的诞生、富兰克林用风筝捕获电、原始人第一次使用火。尽管AIGC潜力巨大，但在技术和商业方面、道德伦理和法规层面，仍面临着客观的问题和挑战。比如在技术上，ChatGPT仍然还不够聪明。当你问一些具有时效性的问题时，就会出现“我的知识截止时间是2021年”的回复，偶尔还会产生不正确的信息，有时会编造文献，也会给出错误虚假的答案。在教育界及学术界，反对声音也不断出现。一些人认为它可以成为一个很好的教学辅助工具，另一些人则担心学生会利用该程序来剽窃他们的工作。1月5日，纽约市教育部门表示，纽约公立学校的所有设备和网络上将禁止使用ChatGPT。纽约市教育部门发言人詹娜·莱尔指出，这一决定是基于“该工具可能会对学生学习产生负面影响，以及对其内容的安全性和准确性的担忧”。1月底，权威学术出版机构Nature，也针对ChatGPT做出规定。Nature规定，ChatGPT等大模型不能被列为作者。如在论文创作中用过相关工具，作者应在“方法”或“致谢”或适当的部分明确说明。与此同时，反ChatGPT的产品也已出现。美国斯塔福大学研究人员推出了DetectGPT，用于检测出AI生成文本。另一个反ChatGPT的产品GPTZero在1月底进行了升级，一天之内便有40万的访问量和220万的服务请求。这款产品能在几秒内摸清文字是人类还是AI写的。当然，抛开这些争议，当下人们更加关注的一个话题是：人工智能会不会取代人类？事实上，ChatGPT的爆火最初源于它在一位工程师的诱导下，竟写出了毁灭人类的计划书。步骤详细到入侵各国计算机系统、控制武器、破坏通讯、交通系统等，甚至还给出了相应的Python代码。虽然在此后的一次更新上，ChatGPT取消了一些反人类反道德的回答，但当我们问到“未来哪些工作会被ChatGPT替代”时，得到了肯定的回复。在一些繁琐的、重复的、高度依赖模式的工作中，比如数据录入、文档处理、客服等岗位，是可能被ChatGPT替代的，这方面好坏各占一半，好的方面是人类可以参与更多具有创造性的工作，而不必把时间用在这些枯燥的工作上；坏的方面是，这种重复性的工作可能就是一个人赖以生存的根本，ChatGPT正在剥夺这部分人的利益。至于ChatGPT是噱头还是工具，至少从目前的来看，在汽车行业，ChatGPT确实具有重大的影响力，能解决一些实际问题，可以为汽车行业做出一些改变。最后，我们通过ChatGPT，给这篇文章写了个结尾。总的来说，ChatGPT对汽车行业具有重要的影响力。它通过改善汽车的语音识别、自动驾驶技术和导航系统等，为消费者提供更加高效和便捷的驾驶体验。在汽车行业不断发展的过程中，ChatGPT将成为一把利器，推动行业技术的提升和创新。我们相信，在未来，ChatGPT将继续为汽车行业带来巨大的价值，并为消费者带来更加美好的驾驶体验。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":311,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9955769797,"gmtCreate":1675771406220,"gmtModify":1675771410740,"author":{"id":"3568692149762667","authorId":"3568692149762667","name":"Shian","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f213e92cede90d30424f98329f2948b2","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3568692149762667","authorIdStr":"3568692149762667"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"[呆住]&nbsp;","listText":"[呆住]&nbsp;","text":"[呆住]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9955769797","repostId":"1123781047","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":494,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9952269376,"gmtCreate":1674748535195,"gmtModify":1676538957061,"author":{"id":"3568692149762667","authorId":"3568692149762667","name":"Shian","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f213e92cede90d30424f98329f2948b2","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3568692149762667","authorIdStr":"3568692149762667"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9952269376","repostId":"1120612539","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1120612539","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing 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Elon Musk, who wasn’t nearly as famous at the time. Over the next decade he put about $100,000 into the stock, and his investment value ballooned to about $3 million at the peak in November 2021.</p><p>Then came the plunge, as the pandemic-era tech bubble began to unwind. Coyle’s son, who got into trading during the 2020 retail frenzy, implored him to sell. But he held on, believing in Tesla’s long term potential. He’s now lost about $1.5 million in paper gains.</p><p>“It just all started falling down,” said Coyle, who lives in North Carolina.</p><p>Tesla investors who stayed loyal to Musk over the years are facing a brutal collapse. After a decade of gains that catapulted the company’s market value to more than $1 trillion and made Musk theworld’s richest man, the stock dropped 65% last year, with rising interest rates slamming the tech sector and ending a bull run for stocks.</p><p>In some ways, Tesla was the original meme stock. Back when GameStop Corp. was just a failing video game outlet, an ecosystem of YouTube channels, podcasts and Reddit threads from amateur analysts fostered a devoted community of Musk followers who made a fortune betting on the company’s clean-energy mission and visionary chief executive.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/52b619f66b4aa9081c7877689f32b506\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"665\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Elon Musk</span></p><p>Now, those high-flying days appear to be over. Musk’s controversial Twitter acquisition has rattled investor confidence. He’s sold billions worth of Tesla stock to fund the purchase, and is spending more time running the social media site and tweeting controversial takes on everything from politics and birth rates to the war in Ukraine. Tesla’s share price has slipped 37% since Dec. 1 and the stock is now trading around $123, down from more than $400 at the top.</p><h2>Down to Earth</h2><p>For Musk fans, it’s hard to believe the difference a year makes. Michael Williams, a 49-year-old trader in Utah, first started buying the company’s shares in 2018 and used complicated options strategies to make supersized bets.</p><p>He admits he got lucky. Using calls, he turned about $3,000 in his Robinhood account into “several hundred thousand.” Then he took it a step further, piling about 90% of his 401(k) into Tesla. Soon $40,000 became $800,000.</p><p>It didn’t last. In the middle of 2021, Williams made a couple of bad trades, first losing $600,000 and then $200,000. Now, the value of his 401(k) is down to about $300,000. And that Robinhood account? It has about $50 in it.</p><p>Williams, who works in telecommunications, has sold about half his shares in Tesla, but now plans to slowly build his stake again. He still believes in Musk, though he says the billionaire is prone to “doing dumb things.”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5fc6d7eb5f05df2e35c0f37dfdb48645\" tg-width=\"970\" tg-height=\"559\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><h2>Final Straws</h2><p>Adrian Mora in Denver bought his first Tesla shares in July 2022 after hearing hype around the electric Semi trucks the company started delivering late last year. The 42-year-old, who works for the Department of Veteran Affairs, had recently sold his house and decided to put the money — about $210,000 — into Tesla. His shares have since dropped about 70% in value, and he’s considering selling what’s left.</p><p>“This is my whole life savings,” he said. “I come from a Hispanic family, and you always hear that my people never get ahead because we never invest. But now I see there’s a good reason my people never invest — you can lose all your money.”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c03b4dd1364d47b13a50e14cc66805a4\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"685\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Karim Jovian. Source: Karim Jovian</span></p><p>For Karim Jovian in New York, this year will be crucial in determining whether Tesla can mount a turnaround. The 29-year-old content creator started investing in the car company in 2020 after hearing other social media stars talking up Tesla and its potential. He jumped in after the stock plunged at the start of the pandemic.</p><p>With about 80% of his net worth in the stock now, he’s worried about all the drama surrounding Musk and how that will affect the share price.</p><p>“He talks too much, it’s like, ‘Please shut up,’” Jovian said about the CEO. “I’m definitely considering selling.”</p><h2>Loyal Fans</h2><p>Of course, there are some success stories from Tesla traders who got out at the right time. Doug Coyle’s son Dennis bought $20,000 worth of the company’s stock following the March 2020 crash, a sum that ballooned to $60,000 by July 2021. So the 36-year-old living in New Jersey decided to take that out and use it for a down payment on a $380,000 home in southern New Jersey that he calls his “Tesla house.”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0bfedc1018f8d5fd99cb9e2a474089f0\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"800\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Dennis Coyle and his father Doug. Source: Dennis Coyle</span></p><p>He’s been slowly building back his position since then, and plans to put another $20,000 in when the share price drops to $85 or $80.</p><p>Like father, like son. His dad Doug has faith in Tesla as a company and takes heart in predictions from Ark Investment Management’s Cathie Wood, a longtime believer in the stock whose firm recently said the price will rise to at least $500 by 2026.  However, he does wish that Musk “would keep his mouth shut.”</p><p>“I’m still behind it 100%,” Coyle said. “He&#39;s made me a wealthy person.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk Fan With 2,900% Gain Sees $1.5 Million Wiped Away</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Coyle’s son, who got into trading during the 2020 retail frenzy, implored him to sell. But he held on, believing in Tesla’s long term potential. He’s now lost about $1.5 million in paper gains.“It just all started falling down,” said Coyle, who lives in North Carolina.Tesla investors who stayed loyal to Musk over the years are facing a brutal collapse. After a decade of gains that catapulted the company’s market value to more than $1 trillion and made Musk theworld’s richest man, the stock dropped 65% last year, with rising interest rates slamming the tech sector and ending a bull run for stocks.In some ways, Tesla was the original meme stock. Back when GameStop Corp. was just a failing video game outlet, an ecosystem of YouTube channels, podcasts and Reddit threads from amateur analysts fostered a devoted community of Musk followers who made a fortune betting on the company’s clean-energy mission and visionary chief executive.Elon MuskNow, those high-flying days appear to be over. Musk’s controversial Twitter acquisition has rattled investor confidence. He’s sold billions worth of Tesla stock to fund the purchase, and is spending more time running the social media site and tweeting controversial takes on everything from politics and birth rates to the war in Ukraine. Tesla’s share price has slipped 37% since Dec. 1 and the stock is now trading around $123, down from more than $400 at the top.Down to EarthFor Musk fans, it’s hard to believe the difference a year makes. Michael Williams, a 49-year-old trader in Utah, first started buying the company’s shares in 2018 and used complicated options strategies to make supersized bets.He admits he got lucky. Using calls, he turned about $3,000 in his Robinhood account into “several hundred thousand.” Then he took it a step further, piling about 90% of his 401(k) into Tesla. Soon $40,000 became $800,000.It didn’t last. In the middle of 2021, Williams made a couple of bad trades, first losing $600,000 and then $200,000. Now, the value of his 401(k) is down to about $300,000. And that Robinhood account? It has about $50 in it.Williams, who works in telecommunications, has sold about half his shares in Tesla, but now plans to slowly build his stake again. He still believes in Musk, though he says the billionaire is prone to “doing dumb things.”Final StrawsAdrian Mora in Denver bought his first Tesla shares in July 2022 after hearing hype around the electric Semi trucks the company started delivering late last year. The 42-year-old, who works for the Department of Veteran Affairs, had recently sold his house and decided to put the money — about $210,000 — into Tesla. His shares have since dropped about 70% in value, and he’s considering selling what’s left.“This is my whole life savings,” he said. “I come from a Hispanic family, and you always hear that my people never get ahead because we never invest. But now I see there’s a good reason my people never invest — you can lose all your money.”Karim Jovian. Source: Karim JovianFor Karim Jovian in New York, this year will be crucial in determining whether Tesla can mount a turnaround. The 29-year-old content creator started investing in the car company in 2020 after hearing other social media stars talking up Tesla and its potential. He jumped in after the stock plunged at the start of the pandemic.With about 80% of his net worth in the stock now, he’s worried about all the drama surrounding Musk and how that will affect the share price.“He talks too much, it’s like, ‘Please shut up,’” Jovian said about the CEO. “I’m definitely considering selling.”Loyal FansOf course, there are some success stories from Tesla traders who got out at the right time. Doug Coyle’s son Dennis bought $20,000 worth of the company’s stock following the March 2020 crash, a sum that ballooned to $60,000 by July 2021. So the 36-year-old living in New Jersey decided to take that out and use it for a down payment on a $380,000 home in southern New Jersey that he calls his “Tesla house.”Dennis Coyle and his father Doug. 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